1968 Camaro "Badmotorfinger" v2.2

[Flash68]

Naturally, I will give the purple ones a pass.

Dangit. I didn't even think of that. Brilliant.

I might be the only guy on this site who covers up his billet with thin wall aluminum. :cool:

[badmatt]

Maybe you should PM me your guys info :) i got a couple more things im in need of.

[tones2SS]

That's some serious bidness right there DG!

^^This. Have fun putting it all together. :thumbsup:

[FETorino]

Ah jeeze what's the big deal it ain't like he's the first guy on this site with a billet dry sump pan.:rofl:

[Flash68]

Ah jeeze what's the big deal it ain't like he's the first guy on this site with a billet dry sump pan.:rofl:

True, but due to my resourcefulness, I bet I got it for a 1/4 of what you paid. :unibrow: And don't give me that Ford vs Chevy parts availability excuse.

Okay I had a similar Matt Alcala situation the other day at Watson going over the motor teardown and inspection of my SB2.

Nothing is good and everything needs something.. of course. :rolleyes:

#4 cylinder has a pretty deep score.

Bad main cap walk.

Crank thrust no good.

Wrong bearings.

Wrong piston ring package (napier).

Steel lifter sleeve (wish it wad bronze bushed).

Standard SBC cam core (may go to 50mm BBC size if there is room).

And then there was..... ok at this point I just pulled a Weld and said "just fix it."

There was some good news. They loved the dry sump stuff I brought over and it was the first time Mike didn't tell me the stuff I brought to him was crap or inferior. :lol: He even brought Ben (Watson) who does all their billet and sheetmetal manifolds over and showed him the Hendricks pan. They loved it. :woot:

He's gonna send the crank out, do calcs on everything and then we'll decide where we go.

Oh, and he said the head gasket on this motor was the largest he'd EVER seen......

.120. :eek:

[Sieg]

And then there was..... ok at this point I just pulled a Weld and said "just fix it." Whatever it takes as long as you'll guarantee me it will kick the snot out of this: http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=442467&postcount=1


:unibrow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

And then there was..... ok at this point I just pulled a Weld and said "just fix it."



S.A.R.(R.Y.) to hear about all those issues.

The good news is there won't be any more redo's

After all, it's not an LS.



:D

[badmatt]

^ low, low, low, blow.

How bad is the cap walk? Possibly because too to little thrust clearance?

Also what block is it?

But dont feel too bad. i nearly Sh*t my self when I looked at my crank. huge hole, is huge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/badmatt/IMG00776-20120530-1829.jpg

Matt

[Matt@BOS]

God D@mn, I feel for you. I keep forgetting our cars' engines both crapped out the same weekend at El Toro.

This is turning into a race to see who bought the biggest turd, and it looks like you're winning since your new engine is a pile.

Dude, I am sorry to hear about this. I know how expensive these things get, and how all kinds of little things you forgot or didn't know you had to buy just magically seem to end up on your parts list.

I'm glad to hear you just decided to "fix it" like Weld. That is what I decided to do today as well, and everyone tells me I won't miss the money once I'm driving, so get driving soon. We need to find out if you have more power than Rob.

Matt

p.s. Shipka has a little 5.3 you could just throw in there. :lol:

[DFRESH]

I got a cracked block 406 that will slide right in there big daddy. No worries.

I for one like the purple wiggins setup---it adds some style points.

Sounds like GW needs to come back in on this project. Put some Intro's on it and he'll be interested again.

BW

[FETorino]

True, but due to my resourcefulness, I bet I got it for a 1/4 of what you paid. :unibrow: And don't give me that Ford vs Chevy parts availability excuse.

Okay I had a similar Matt Alcala situation the other day at Watson going over the motor teardown and inspection of my SB2.

Nothing is good and everything needs something.. of course. :rolleyes:

:eek:

Dude it sucks but in the end you won't spend much more if any than if you built it from scratch and it will be built right. :thumbsup:

You do know the availability of Ford Sidoiler dry sumps is next to nothing right?:rolleyes:

God D@mn, I feel for you. I keep forgetting our cars' engines both crapped out the same weekend at El Toro.

This is turning into a race to see who bought the biggest turd, and it looks like you're winning since your new engine is a pile.

Dude, I am sorry to hear about this. I know how expensive these things get, and how all kinds of little things you forgot or didn't know you had to buy just magically seem to end up on your parts list.

I'm glad to hear you just decided to "fix it" like Weld. That is what I decided to do today as well, and everyone tells me I won't miss the money once I'm driving, so get driving soon. We need to find out if you have more power than Rob.

Matt

p.s. Shipka has a little 5.3 you could just throw in there. :lol:

Almost all his big parts are usable so I think you are in the lead. :( Not that you want to be winning that race.

Never going to happen on pump gas. Now DG may go all in and then it will be a horse race.:D But only one will be streetable :P

:cheers:

[Flash68]

:unibrow:

You know it.

S.A.R.(R.Y.) to hear about all those issues.

The good news is there won't be any more redo's

After all, it's not an LS.



:D

An LS... those are for flunkies. :lol:

^ low, low, low, blow.

How bad is the cap walk? Possibly because too to little thrust clearance?

Also what block is it?

But dont feel too bad. i nearly Sh*t my self when I looked at my crank. huge hole, is huge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/badmatt/IMG00776-20120530-1829.jpg

Matt

He's gonna send the crank out... said the thrust bearing was toast... like Rob said everything should be usable... it's just a matter of more time and more money. :rolleyes:

Block is Dart Little M. Mike will do a soft hone on it he said and redo the mains and it should be good.

He did like the crank overall though. Need to weigh it but it is pretty damn lighweight.

God D@mn, I feel for you. I keep forgetting our cars' engines both crapped out the same weekend at El Toro.

This is turning into a race to see who bought the biggest turd, and it looks like you're winning since your new engine is a pile.

Dude, I am sorry to hear about this. I know how expensive these things get, and how all kinds of little things you forgot or didn't know you had to buy just magically seem to end up on your parts list.

I'm glad to hear you just decided to "fix it" like Weld. That is what I decided to do today as well, and everyone tells me I won't miss the money once I'm driving, so get driving soon. We need to find out if you have more power than Rob.

Matt

p.s. Shipka has a little 5.3 you could just throw in there. :lol:

Yep I read your post and didn't even wanna post mine. Rather spread out our misery. It always can be worse and like you said we think we are getting a deal of some kind and it often bites our arse. At least we are both doing what we need to and taking it to the right people to make sure it gets done right.

If we have the clearance for the 50mm cam then we get to choose the cam specs. Then I have a new vested interest in some extra hp. :unibrow:

5.3 LS? That is short a couple liters. Oh and it's an LS and wouldn't leak. :D

I got a cracked block 406 that will slide right in there big daddy. No worries.

I for one like the purple wiggins setup---it adds some style points.

Sounds like GW needs to come back in on this project. Put some Intro's on it and he'll be interested again.

BW

That 406 is a trooper. Wont' die. Like that daddy long leg spider in the corner of my room I just can't reach.

I knew you'd love the purple fittings. Race car.

I actually have some renderings of my last Camaro with some Intros on it... wait, did I just say that?

Almost all his parts are usable so I think you are in the lead. :( Not that you want to be winning that race.

Never going to happen on pump gas. Now DG may go all in and then it will be a horse race.:D But only one will be streetable :P

:cheers:

Yeah yeah yeah.... I might just say fvck it and turn it up and go 13:1 and big cam to win the $20 bet. That would be justifiable wouldn't it? :D

Streetable? Don't worry I will drive it more than Todd did his PT car on the street.

[Matt@BOS]

I'm sure you will drive it on the street more than Todd did with his car. You don't put your car on jack stands and pull out the black rubber gloves at the first sight of a drop of oil. You're probably more like me. When I fired my car up at the gas station close to Doug's house after El Toro I had to wait 5 minutes for all the smoke to clear so we could see well enough to pull out of the drive way.

My engine should be done in 10 days so I think you're winning the race to the most broken parts. (my famous last words).

[Flash68]

I'm sure you will drive it on the street more than Todd did with his car. You don't put your car on jack stands and pull out the black rubber gloves at the first sight of a drop of oil. You're probably more like me. When I fired my car up at the gas station close to Doug's house after El Toro I had to wait 5 minutes for all the smoke to clear so we could see well enough to pull out of the drive way.

My engine should be done in 10 days so I think you're winning the race to the most broken parts. (my famous last words).

Oil leaks? Those are badges of honor for me. Or something like that. As long as it's on Doug's driveway and not mine.

Oh yeah smoke and all.... love that... it gives me a reason to tell all the onlookers and questions-askers that "no, it's supposed to work like that... thanks though.... carry on." :D

10 days? That's pretty good. I might need 10 weeks.

[FETorino]

10 days? That's pretty good. I might need 10 weeks.

Can you speed that up I don't want to wait that long for my $20.:unibrow:

[Vegas69]

I hate to say I told you so. Well, maybe not. :lol:

There is one way to build these things if they are going to last, the right way. Glad Watson is blue printing the entire engine.

[Flash68]

I hate to say I told you so. Well, maybe not. :lol:

There is one way to build these things if they are going to last, the right way. Glad Watson is blue printing the entire engine.

Yeah I shoulda known.... it was a good chance it would turn out this way.

Yep I brought it to Watson for a reason... if I didn't allow them to do their thing what would be the point right?

[Sieg]

Yep I brought it to Watson for a reason... if I didn't allow them to do their thing what would be the point right?
Exactly :thumbsup: As customers we have the desire for big power and reliability but can't easily accept the expense associated with it.

The more stories I read about people trying to get the most for their money (natural human trait) the more I understand the prices of Watson, Mast, etc. Building motors right has to be a tough sales job and somewhat thank-less business in many cases from my observations over the years. Think of the number of hours they spend educating people who realistically can't afford their product.

Then comes the customer obligation to properly maintain what their desires built which is somewhat like going through a buffet line when you're starving and then having to eat everything you piled on your plate. :)

[GregWeld]

Make sure you ship your brand new motor to Steve's Auto Restoration (S.A.R.) in Portland Oregon --- so they can fire it off and run it with no oil...

Get's everything seated right off the bat. :unibrow:

[FETorino]

Make sure you ship your brand new motor to Steve's Auto Restoration (S.A.R.) in Portland Oregon --- so they can fire it off and run it with no oil...

Get's everything seated right off the bat. :unibrow:

:wow: Do they do that for everyone or only the high roller customers :_paranoid

[sik68]

Aww man sorry Dave. At least you know Watson is checking EVERYTHING and you will eventually get a motor that will last.

[gerno]

That sucks about the engine but at least you know you'll be able to beat on is good once you get it back.

I've never seen a main cap walk issue. Did Watson show you the issue or do you have any pics of it? I'm interested to see what it looks like.

You also mention the wrong rings and bearings. I assume they where sized correctly, what did he say saw wrong with them? Since I'm building up my engine I'm interested to know more.

[Flash68]

Aww man sorry Dave. At least you know Watson is checking EVERYTHING and you will eventually get a motor that will last.

:thumbsup:

That sucks about the engine but at least you know you'll be able to beat on is good once you get it back.

I've never seen a main cap walk issue. Did Watson show you the issue or do you have any pics of it? I'm interested to see what it looks like.

You also mention the wrong rings and bearings. I assume they where sized correctly, what did he say saw wrong with them? Since I'm building up my engine I'm interested to know more.

Yep. He showed me some of the issues while we talked. No pics tho.

Rings were not necessarily wrong per se... just not good for my application per Watson. They were napier 2nd rings. They want to switch those out.

Bearings he said were mismatched. They were a mixture of hard and soft. A throw together job it appears.

[badmatt]

Yep. He showed me some of the issues while we talked. No pics tho.

Rings were not necessarily wrong per se... just not good for my application per Watson. They were napier 2nd rings. They want to switch those out.

Bearings he said were mismatched. They were a mixture of hard and soft. A throw together job it appears.


Jesus.....

at least its getting done properly!

[intocarss]

I bet you smell like Garlic

[Ron in SoCal]

I bet you smell like Garlic

So does Rich! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[intocarss]

So does Rich! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Where you been hiding??

[Ron in SoCal]

Sorry Jerr. First day home in the last seven. Decompressing on :lateral:

Call anytime Bro!

[fleetus macmullitz]

DG,

That mill of yours would make for a nice downpayment on one of them Stielow powerplants. :P

[Flash68]

I bet you smell like Garlic

I wish. Then that would mean I've been down at the Garlic Proving Grounds. :mad:

DG,

That mill of yours would make for a nice downpayment on one of them Stielow powerplants. :P

I like reading that. :D

[FETorino]

When is this thing going to run? I want my $20..... :unibrow:

[Flash68]

When is this thing going to run? I want my $20..... :unibrow:

When it is dialed in to make FE power + 1.

[FETorino]

When it is dialed in to make FE power + 1.

So you decided to go all out and ditch the idea of streetability :rofl:

[Flash68]

So you decided to go all out and ditch the idea of streetability :rofl:

Not yet. But if Mike has his way this thing will run race gas only.... I am resisting! :willy:

[intocarss]

I wish. Then that would mean I've been down at the Garlic Proving Grounds. :mad:


Garlic Proving grounds??? What does Garlic have to prove?

[Flash68]

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[Ron in SoCal]

Oh yeah...about time (Jeff) Gordon! :thumbsup:

[badmatt]

dude! send those to me ill shot peen them and Electroless Nickle them!

[tones2SS]

Looking good Dave!

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/Jeff-Gordon-1copy.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

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That's money. :thumbsup:


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[DFRESH]

Did your mom and dad give you an advance on your allowance?

I'm going to ask for the same from mine after seeing all of this.

[Rod P]

DAVE!! its looking awesome brother, cant wait to get this back on the track

[Flash68]

dude! send those to me ill shot peen them and Electroless Nickle them!

What's that look like? Post an example. I picked the powdercoat for these arms and it is happening any day now.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/Jeff-Gordon-1copy.jpg

That's money. :thumbsup:

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McQueen should have been on the ballot yesterday! :mad:

Did your mom and dad give you an advance on your allowance?

I'm going to ask for the same from mine after seeing all of this.

Absolutely. I am hoping to move out of my parents' basement by 2014 when this POS will be running.

Oh yeah...about time (Jeff) Gordon! :thumbsup:

Hey he's pretty good on road courses I hear. Or he used to be anyway.

Looking good Dave!

Thanks bro.

DAVE!! its looking awesome brother, cant wait to get this back on the track

Rod! I will see you Saturday and want a ride or two with you! :thumbsup:

[badmatt]

What's that look like? Post an example. I picked the powdercoat for these arms and it is happening any day now.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/badmatt/IMG_2076.jpg

over some black anodized 6061 :D

[Sieg]

The nickel is very nice........maybe too nice.

[badmatt]

The nickel is very nice........maybe too nice.

You can brush it after the fact also giving it a brushed look and not hurt the corrosion factor.

[Flash68]

The nickel is very nice........maybe too nice.

That was my thought. This ain't pro blinging over here obviously. :D

It's a cool finish. I just think the tone of the color is lighter than I want. I am doing with a dark grey/graphite powdercoat.

Thanks Matt. You doing it on your stuff?

[badmatt]

That was my thought. This ain't pro blinging over here obviously. :D

It's a cool finish. I just think the tone of the color is lighter than I want. I am doing with a dark grey/graphite powdercoat.

Thanks Matt. You doing it on your stuff?

yes all my rear links will be nickle'd along with my control arms.

its nice because if the material cracks so does the nickle unlike paint and powdercoat. plus it doesnt add any weight, well maybe a couple grams the plating is roughly .002" thick.

:)

mattykins

[Flash68]

Sorry Matty... what's done is done. :D

All of these pics are the same pieces, just in different light. I thought Jake was messin with me when he sent the pics.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/FA9C9FBB-998B-4513-83E8-81337276B69A-4039-000006A023FDCB62.jpg

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[bulldog19]

Looking Good Dave.

[Sieg]

Flash over-exposure........how fitting. :D

Looking good, perfect for you and your car. :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Lighting issues...so played.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/tumblr_m70ediuKbA1raqenbo1_400.png

:lol:

[mdprovee]

Things look like they are going well Dave.

[preston]

When I looked into nickel plating it was god awful expensive. In fact, I couldn't even really get the guy to give me a price. I think it was Advanced Plating somehwere in the midwest ? AT first the guy said he didn't even do nickel plating and then I mentioned several high end cars that said they had work there and he admitted they will do it for but spent the rest of the call talking me out of it. That was before I even told him what and how much I wanted nickel plated, so he didn't know I was a low roller LOL.

How/where/price are you getting things nickel plated ? Don't mean to hijack Flash just curious.

[67zo6Camaro]

Im getting ichy just looking at those. lol. Can't wait to see these long arms of the law on the 68.

[sik68]

:thumbsup:

Damn those look good!

[Streetking]

Looks great!:thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

Those should be ample for your trips to Toys R US and the grocery store.

[GregWeld]

Looks good man!

How many bags of diapers will this jalopy hold?:woot:

[badmatt]

When I looked into nickel plating it was god awful expensive. In fact, I couldn't even really get the guy to give me a price. I think it was Advanced Plating somehwere in the midwest ? AT first the guy said he didn't even do nickel plating and then I mentioned several high end cars that said they had work there and he admitted they will do it for but spent the rest of the call talking me out of it. That was before I even told him what and how much I wanted nickel plated, so he didn't know I was a low roller LOL.

How/where/price are you getting things nickel plated ? Don't mean to hijack Flash just curious.

I do my Nickle at work.

we charge around 100 bucks min order, $200 would probly do a set of upper. lower control arms. if you were a walk in.

[Cole]

Those should be ample for your trips to Toys R US and the grocery store.
:lol: :lol::lol:

[Jtomas801]

The control arms look great! I don't know if you posted this or not, how much longer are these from stock?

Thanks,
Jon

[sr73bu]

Damn Dave!, just read all of your thread..well.... most of it, haha...Through all the ups and downs i'm glad you've stuck with it! car is coming along great!

-Sean

ps. Soundgarden rules.

[Flash68]

Looking good, perfect for you and your car. :thumbsup:

Why, cuz it's wide? You trying to say something? Do I look fat in these jeans? :_paranoid :lol:

Lighting issues...so played.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/tumblr_m70ediuKbA1raqenbo1_400.png

:lol:

Well done. I know you'll always come thru. :cheers:

When I looked into nickel plating it was god awful expensive. In fact, I couldn't even really get the guy to give me a price. I think it was Advanced Plating somehwere in the midwest ? AT first the guy said he didn't even do nickel plating and then I mentioned several high end cars that said they had work there and he admitted they will do it for but spent the rest of the call talking me out of it. That was before I even told him what and how much I wanted nickel plated, so he didn't know I was a low roller LOL.

How/where/price are you getting things nickel plated ? Don't mean to hijack Flash just curious.

No worries Preston. I was seriously considering the nickel but I was committed and powdercoating in progress.

Im getting ichy just looking at those. lol. Can't wait to see these long arms of the law on the 68.

Long arms of the law. Love it. :cheers:

Those should be ample for your trips to Toys R US and the grocery store.

Hey it is still a street car after all. :D

Looks good man!

How many bags of diapers will this jalopy hold?:woot:

More than the # of bags of Depends going in the back of your Nomad. :rofl:

The control arms look great! I don't know if you posted this or not, how much longer are these from stock?

Thanks,
Jon

Thanks Jon... they are 1" longer per side.

Damn Dave!, just read all of your thread..well.... most of it, haha...Through all the ups and downs i'm glad you've stuck with it! car is coming along great!

-Sean

ps. Soundgarden rules.

Thanks Sean.. and again, welcome to the dark side.... and Soundgarden DOES rule... someone around here gets it. Nice to see. :D

[Vegas69]

:lol: :thumbsup: Nice dig on Daddy Warbucks.

[GregWeld]

More than the # of bags of Depends going in the back of your Nomad. :rofl:




OUCH!

:lol:

[Matt@BOS]

OUCH!

:lol:

Aren't you thinking of selling the Nomad? You should probably keep it. I bet it is the easiest to get in and out of. :lol:

[GregWeld]

Aren't you thinking of selling the Nomad? You should probably keep it. I bet it is the easiest to get in and out of. :lol:



Yeah -- I can fit the wheelchair in the back right?


AZZWHOLES

[intocarss]

Yeah -- I can fit the wheelchair in the back right?


AZZWHOLES

No worries Big G we got you handled if it don't.. Make sure to get the optional cover cuz you get a lot of rain up there

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[fleetus macmullitz]

Greg can still move...

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[Sieg]

Why, cuz it's wide? You trying to say something? Do I look fat in these jeans? :_paranoid :lol:
Cuz they're very business/outlaw like. :unibrow:

Regarding the jeans........not in the company I've seen you with, though it might just be the camera angles and lighting. :lol:

[FETorino]

Sorry Matty... what's done is done. :D

All of these pics are the same pieces, just in different light. I thought Jake was messin with me when he sent the pics.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/FA9C9FBB-998B-4513-83E8-81337276B69A-4039-000006A023FDCB62.jpg


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Snazzy.....

Now hurry up with that motor I need the $20.:D

[intocarss]

Turkey bump

[Flash68]

Turkey bump

Mucho parts incoming! Tis the season....

[intocarss]

Mucho parts & Horse Power incoming! Tis the season....:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Dave - Ever thought about a store front similar in principle to this:
http://store.ferrari.com/en/collectibles/memorabilia/f1-car-parts/?utm_campaign=121125_STORE_EN+%5Bgruppo%3A+mondo+s tore+%7C+contenuto%3A+win+or+lose%5D&utm_content=220971019&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=401215588

:yes:

[Flash68]

Dave - Ever thought about a store front similar in principle to this:
http://store.ferrari.com/en/collectibles/memorabilia/f1-car-parts/?utm_campaign=121125_STORE_EN+%5Bgruppo%3A+mondo+s tore+%7C+contenuto%3A+win+or+lose%5D&utm_content=220971019&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=401215588

:yes:

Ha. But what am I selling? I am still buying crap. :willy:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I am still buying crap. :willy:

I got nothin...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Buck-Showalter.gif

[Flash68]

:rofl: Skip that is awesome!

I'll be swinging by Watson this week to get an update on my crank, pistons and block.

[badmatt]

I like the Nascar gray on the control arms.

looks good Dave.

[intocarss]

Some spy photos of BadMotorFingers eng

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/3F93Na3H25Ld5G75J9cbc65ececcb92ea1055.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/3E53Gd3F55G25Ed5Fbcbcb91ac2899bbb1546.jpg

[badmatt]

Haaaa!

[89 RS]

Control arms look great Dave, can't wait to see that engine get finished and installed. :thumbsup:

[FETorino]

Control arms look great Dave, can't wait to see that engine get finished and installed. :thumbsup:

How about dynoed?:P

[Flash68]

I am like the class clown here huh. :lol:

OK something of an update but only ran the ball up the middle for a 4 yard gain I'd call it. But it's some progress.

--Pistons are back and skirts coated
--New oversized pins are in
--Crank is being keyed and the bad snout has been repaired, should be on its way back from Marine Crankshaft soon
--Oil pump rebuilt and dyno'd and en route back
--Larger Braswell carb arrived and once final engine specs (cubes could change) I will have it sent to Braswell for freshening and road race float install
--New Dart main caps - they are out of stock or something so Mike is waiting for those to arrive so he can get working on the block

Should have my hands on the control arms from Jake on Friday. Looking fwd to that and starting to get things laid out for mock up then off to powdercoat.

:lateral:

[Sieg]

Nice update! :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Nice update! :thumbsup:


Crafty too with all those well placed -- thingees. :unibrow:

I'd prefer bullet points though... next time.




:D

[67zo6Camaro]

I got nothin...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Buck-Showalter.gif

Damn it Skip...there you go making me laugh again. Stop it! :thumbsup: :rofl:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Damn it Skip...there you go making me laugh again. Stop it! :thumbsup: :rofl:

Brett,

That's the highest profile, most expertly carried out snub I've ever seen.
Glad you like it. :D

A little back story... IIRC the snubber wasn't played much by the snubbee. I'm guessing that's what that was about.

[FETorino]

I am like the class clown here huh. :lol:

OK something of an update but only ran the ball up the middle for a 4 yard gain I'd call it. But it's some progress.

--Pistons are back and skirts coated
--New oversized pins are in
--Crank is being keyed and the bad snout has been repaired, should be on its way back from Marine Crankshaft soon
--Oil pump rebuilt and dyno'd and en route back
--Larger Braswell carb arrived and once final engine specs (cubes could change) I will have it sent to Braswell for freshening and road race float install
--New Dart main caps - they are out of stock or something so Mike is waiting for those to arrive so he can get working on the block

Should have my hands on the control arms from Jake on Friday. Looking fwd to that and starting to get things laid out for mock up then off to powdercoat.

:lateral:


Sounds expensive, I thought SBC were cheap:_paranoid

[Flash68]

Brett,

That's the highest profile, most expertly carried out snub I've ever seen.
Glad you like it. :D

A little back story... IIRC the snubber wasn't played much by the snubbee. I'm guessing that's what that was about.

Def on your Top 10 gif list. :unibrow:

Sounds expensive, I thought SBC were cheap:_paranoid

:willy:

[GregWeld]

......... Yeah but he got such a good deal on the used motor:faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:

[fleetus macmullitz]

......... Yeah but he got such a good deal on the used motor:faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:

Yeah, but I hear they're breaking it in........WITH OIL IN IT!



GwTHY65Lp_o

[GregWeld]

:lolhit: :lolhit: :lolhit:

[sik68]

LOLOL :lol:

[Flash68]

Hey what fun is it doing things the easy way? :cheers:

Greg, how'd that "used" motor and trans in that Yellow Mustang treat ya? Yeah, the motor and trans out of the car being fixed. :rofl: :rofl:

[GregWeld]

Hey what fun is it doing things the easy way? :cheers:

Greg, how'd that "used" motor and trans in that Yellow Mustang treat ya? Yeah, the motor and trans out of the car being fixed. :rofl: :rofl:



It's going to work out fantastically just as soon as I back charge Charley (and then try to collect)...


Funny how these race cars actually cost real money.

[FETorino]

Hey what fun is it doing things the easy way? :cheers:

Greg, how'd that "used" motor and trans in that Yellow Mustang treat ya? Yeah, the motor and trans out of the car being fixed. :rofl: :rofl:

So what are you saying; Don't buy a used motor? :_paranoid

[badmatt]

This thread is slippin.

[intocarss]

I was just going to bump this thread

THERE'S A STORM OF A$$ WHOOPING coming and his name is Lord Helmet

ubi0DYXs6pU

[badmatt]

^ Hahahahahhaahhahahaha

[Flash68]

This thread is just gettin started.

All remaining parts needed are shipped from manufacturers to Watson.... he should have everything by end of this week and can start working his magic.

Hopefully it results in a Sideoiler Killer.

He agreed on a reasonable target for a motor completion and dyno by end of January ... assuming no more hold ups or red flags.

He kinda liked our idea (Our being Rob and me... well, mostly Rob) of running 2 different ignition setups like Nascar does... only not for the same purpose.... our purpose would be to switch from Tune A (pump gas) to Tune B (Sideoiler Killer) with the toggle switch. I thought it would be a cool idea.

[FETorino]

All remaining parts needed are shipped from manufacturers to Watson.... he should have everything by end of this week and can start working his magic.

Hopefully it results in a Sideoiler Killer.



Without hope you got nothin:unibrow:

:cheers:

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/cid_001101c7a4f12bf1d0d0e1f0fea9Jer.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/A8D9AFA7-E01F-4E1E-B121-D78C9F7EEAE0-2374-0000016AD4490A8B.jpg

Borrowed pic

[FETorino]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/A8D9AFA7-E01F-4E1E-B121-D78C9F7EEAE0-2374-0000016AD4490A8B.jpg

Borrowed pic

Just another Camaro with less hp than a Sideoiler :rofl:

[intocarss]

Just another Camaro with less hp than a Sideoiler :rofl:

And that will be your only view of it :P

[Payton King]

has to be the funnest thing I have seen in a while. Great work.

[Frankenstine]

That is some Funny Shnitz right there:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

This thread is just gettin started.



-kaElguzB8I&feature

[Sieg]

"I want their cars covered in orange cones"
:rofl:

Good work JerDoggie :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Just another Camaro with less hp than a Sideoiler :rofl:

ArSLNJNUEIM

[Flash68]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/cid_001101c7a4f12bf1d0d0e1f0fea9Jer.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/A8D9AFA7-E01F-4E1E-B121-D78C9F7EEAE0-2374-0000016AD4490A8B.jpg

Borrowed pic

Jer -- Rich said to say thanks for making his day... he watched that vid this morn and was crying laughing he said. :cheers: :thumbsup:

[intocarss]

ArSLNJNUEIM

ROTFLMAO I watched it a bunch of times :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Jer -- Rich said to say thanks for making his day... he watched that vid this morn and was crying laughing he said. :cheers: :thumbsup:

You're welcome. Btw who's Rich??

[Sieg]

ROTFLMAO I watched it a bunch of times :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Mr. Leghorn!

"That girl reminds me of a highway in Texas..........straight and flat."

:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Mr. Leghorn!

"That girl reminds me of a highway in Texas..........straight and flat."

:thumbsup:



I was hoping for "she reminds me of a field in Iowa -- that needs to be plowed".:woot:

[Sieg]

I was hoping for "she reminds me of a field in Iowa -- that needs to be plowed".:woot:

Shhhh, this is a married thread ya know. :rolleyes:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider/crash.gif

[Sieg]

This thread is just gettin started.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/432284_4243765046422_1583087278_n.jpg

:thumbsup:

[intocarss]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/432284_4243765046422_1583087278_n.jpg

:thumbsup:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

You're welcome. Btw who's Rich??

Rich is my Crew Chief, Builder, Brother from another mother, and overall Partner in Crime. :cheers:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/432284_4243765046422_1583087278_n.jpg

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :lol:

Here comes Rob getting defensive in about 3....2....1....

[FETorino]

Rich is my Crew Chief, Builder, Brother from another mother, and overall Partner in Crime. :cheers:



:thumbsup: :lol:

Here comes Rob getting defensive in about 3....2....1....

Defensive or aggressive :P

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/chevy.jpg

Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
Cheap, Hardly Efficient, Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
Cracked Heads, Every Valve Rattles, Oil Leaks Every Time
Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques
Condition Hopeless, Entire Vehicle Relies On Leftover Engine Technology

Chevy like a rock, you have to kick it to move...

[intocarss]

How is a golf ball different from a Ford?
You can drive a golf ball 200 yards..

Whats the difference between a Ford and a shopping cart?
A shopping cart is easier to push...


A man pulled up next to a little girl walking home from school and
said "If you get in, I'll give you a lollypop." The girl kept walking.
Following along slowly, the man said "Come on and get in the car with
me and I'll give you two lolly pops."

She kept her eyes on the
sidewalk and continued on her way. The man said "Get in with me and
I'll give you this whole bag of lollypops!" Finally, the girl turned
and said "Look daddy, YOU built a FORD, YOU ride in it!!!"

[Sieg]

Here comes Rob getting defensive in about 3....2....1....

Defensive or aggressive :P

Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
Cheap, Hardly Efficient, Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
Cracked Heads, Every Valve Rattles, Oil Leaks Every Time
Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques
Condition Hopeless, Entire Vehicle Relies On Leftover Engine Technology

Chevy like a rock, you have to kick it to move...

He pressed down on the pedal a little............good thing he had spell checker to help with those. :D

[Payton King]

First
On
Race
Day

I always thought it was Found On Road Dead or F'd On Raw Deal

[GregWeld]

Todd's thread got all those posts with real car info....


Like - how many clicks to each shock...

How many times you need to adjust your valves....


This thread is better than going to the movies!


:bow: :cheers: :woot:

[fleetus macmullitz]

This thread is better than going to the movies!


:bow: :cheers: :woot:

Exactly, and it's real, not like those phony stars.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/wax.jpg

[intocarss]

Rich is my Crew Chief, Builder, Brother from another mother, and overall Partner in Crime. :cheers:



.... "Pit Bitch" Got it :thumbsup: :P

[Sieg]

"Pit Bitch" Got it :thumbsup: :P

One thing is guaranteed.....you do not hesitate to sprint through an open door. I admire that trait in a man. :thumbsup: :D

[Track Junky]

I thing is guaranteed.....you don not hesitate to sprint through an open door. I admire that trait in a man. :thumbsup: :D

Dude.....your slurring your typing.....you been drinking......:lol:

[Sieg]

Dude.....your slurring your typing.....you been drinking......:lol:
BUSTED!!!

Two cHrIsTmus pArtiEs Toonite...............pweese except mee appogees.

:D

[FETorino]

Hey DG look at the picture I got today. How's that motor coming? :P Got your chassis parts in hand yet :unibrow:

The frame came back from powder coating this afternoon. The rest of the suspension components should be back on Monday or Tuesday then assembly can begin.

http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss79/RS-Perf/Picture226178.jpg

[Vegas69]

Probably took an end loader to get it in the shop. :D

[Flash68]

Hey DG look at the picture I got today. How's that motor coming? :P Got your chassis parts in hand yet :unibrow:

Yeah I see it. Too bad the prettiest part of your car won't be seen. :D

Watson has all parts in hand now so things should start moving on the engine. I will check in a week or so and see how the block is doing (it was jacked up pretty good of course but fixable).

Probably took an end loader to get it in the shop. :D

Appropriate for the 6 foot 8 Robster and that tank of a Furd he's throwing together.

Things are happening on my end, slowly but surely...

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMAG1792.jpg

Just slightly wider than stock

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMAG1795.jpg

[Track Junky]

Dave, it's great to finally see a progress pic. :thumbsup:

Those arms are looooong. Are you going with 315's up front?

[Flash68]

Dave, it's great to finally see a progress pic. :thumbsup:



Ha, you're tellin me! :lol:



Those arms are looooong. Are you going with 315's up front?

Yep. Already got 1 set of R6's and 1 set of A6's. 315 front / 335 rear.

We mocked up the front track width we are targeting on the other car in the shop with the 315's.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0004-2.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0002.jpg

[Track Junky]

Man, you got my wheels spinning now........Thats an intimidating looking combination.

Super excited for you. Looking forward to some more progress. :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Looking good Dave! Just slightly wider! :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I like it, the long arm of the law...uh Jake. :unibrow:

Also, a little known fact; tires under a 315 are not constructed to withstand substantial powerwashing.


:D

[badmatt]

lil bit of poke.

[GregWeld]

For a minute there I thought I was looking at road building equipment....

[FETorino]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0002.jpg

Now you're cooking with GAS :thumbsup:

Only problem is you won't look like every other Camaro on this site.:unibrow:

:cheers:

[intocarss]

Hey DG look at the picture I got today. How's that motor coming? :P Got your chassis parts in hand yet :unibrow:

Shiat... Daves front sub has more parts on it then your whole frame. SO I'd say he's WINNING

[FETorino]

Shiat... Daves front sub has more parts on it then your whole frame. SO I'd say he's WINNING

Cuz his motor is in more parts :lol:

:cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

Cuz his motor is in more parts :lol:

:cheers:

So it's neck and neck? Who's gonna finish first?

Leave me out of this, BTW :lol:

[FETorino]

So it's neck and neck? Who's gonna finish first?

Leave me out of this, BTW :lol:

Dave:D

Mine will be all done on jackstands with me still deciding on what F'in wheels:willy: :willy: :willy: :willy: :willy: :willy: :willy: :willy:

:cheers:

[GregWeld]

Dave:D

Mine will be all done on jackstands with me still deciding on what F'in wheels:willy: :willy: :willy: :willy: :willy: :willy: :willy: :willy:

:cheers:



ALL wheels start with an "I"...


:rofl: :willy:

[intocarss]

Cuz his motor is in more parts :lol:

:cheers: Parts is parts.. Your frame does look nice :thumbsup:

[sik68]

Nice setup Dave, so wide! Looks gnarly :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Nice setup Dave, so wide! Looks gnarly :thumbsup:

Gnarly...yes. With possibly some slight change in ride quality.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/tumblr_lpsko1XoXT1qghnino1_500.gif

[67zo6Camaro]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMAG1795.jpg

Now that says it all. Awsome looking especially with the side by side comparison.

[67zo6Camaro]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0002.jpg



Love at first site, I'm feeling it. Looks mean.

[Ron in SoCal]

^ DaveO what do you/Jake use for a trans cross member? Love those bushings...:cheers:

[Flash68]

Now you're cooking with GAS :thumbsup:

Only problem is you won't look like every other Camaro on this site.:unibrow:

:cheers:

That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. :lol:

Love at first site, I'm feeling it. Looks mean.

Yeah buddy.. can't wait to get movin on your phase of the project. :cheers:

^ DaveO what do you/Jake use for a trans cross member? Love those bushings...:cheers:

Since the torq arm X member is so close there will be a 180* "hoop" welded to it that holds the mount. Jake has done it before and is sending us the piece. Should work pretty slick and kill 2 Fords... I mean birds... with one stone.

[FETorino]

That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. :lol:



Yeah buddy.. can't wait to get movin on your phase of the project. :cheers:



Since the torq arm X member is so close there will be a 180* "hoop" welded to it that holds the mount. Jake has done it before and is sending us the piece. Should work pretty slick and kill 2 Fords... I mean birds... with one stone.

Whaaaaaaaat :willy:

[Nessumsar]

I give you: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[intocarss]

Ha, you're tellin me! :lol:



Yep. Already got 1 set of R6's and 1 set of A6's. 315 front / 335 rear.

We mocked up the front track width we are targeting on the other car in the shop with the 315's.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0004-2.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0002.jpg

NOW YOU'RE COOKEN :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Nice update Dave!

[intocarss]

Hump Day Bump

[GregWeld]

Hump Day Bump




Yep -- That's about all that get's done at Dave's house these days.....

[intocarss]

Yep -- That's about all that get's done at Dave's house these days.....

Lil BadMotorFingers??? :willy:

[intocarss]

WELL?????

[intocarss]

BUMP :cool:

[Sieg]

Since the car doesn't seem to be a priority...............we're shopping for new drapes for the master bedroom and was wondering if you could help a brother out with a little current advice? :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Since the car doesn't seem to be a priority...............we're shopping for new drapes for the master bedroom and was wondering if you could help a brother out with a little current advice? :thumbsup:



:rofl: :willy: :rofl: :willy:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Since the car doesn't seem to be a priority...............

Don't question the mans' motivation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoM0FyLmGY

[Vegas69]

It's like watching paint dry... I had a candid conversation with the head crew chief last week, Mr. Rich Bermia. He gave me the inside scoop. It's going to be a bad biotch. If.....it ever gets done. ha

[intocarss]

Since the car doesn't seem to be a priority...............we're shopping for new drapes for the master bedroom and was wondering if you could help a brother out with a little current advice? :thumbsup:

:wow: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I also noticed that Lord Helmet is busy posting in the Ford threads :(

[fleetus macmullitz]

Rich B. can give Flash structure and discipline and most importantly the direction that others haven't...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/aaaaadubdirectionalissue.jpg

[Flash68]

Since the car doesn't seem to be a priority...............we're shopping for new drapes for the master bedroom and was wondering if you could help a brother out with a little current advice? :thumbsup:

Drapes are over rated. Just watch out for high power lenses in your neighbors' windows. :D

It's like watching paint dry... I had a candid conversation with the head crew chief last week, Mr. Rich Bermia. He gave me the inside scoop. It's going to be a bad biotch. If.....it ever gets done. ha

Hey give me a call... I'd like to know what the inside scoop is. :lol:

It'll be done by 201_ (we can fill in that last digit later). :lateral:

[badmatt]

It'll be done by 201_ (we can fill in that last digit later). :lateral:

I'm kinda in the same boat.. Wanna Race?

[FETorino]

It'll be done by 201_ (we can fill in that last digit later). :lateral:

So you, BadMatt, Ron and I are all on the same project plan.:willy:

As long as Todd doesn't grab an off the shelf 2nd gen before we're done, I'm ok with that.:D

:cheers:

[Vegas69]

My plan is to let you guys spend 5 years and to much money, then come out and put it on you with a budget beater. :lol:

[Sieg]

So you, BadMatt, Ron and I are all on the same project plan.:willy:

As long as Todd doesn't grab an off the shelf 2nd gen before we're done, I'm ok with that.:D

:cheers:
Something tells me you're all in Todd's sights and he covertly could be first to the party. :yes:

[FETorino]

Something tells me you're all in Todd's sights and he covertly could be first to the party. :yes:

I like the Camaro on Camaro crime portion of that :rofl:

[Sieg]

I like the Camaro on Camaro crime portion of that :rofl:
:unibrow:

[Flash68]

I'm kinda in the same boat.. Wanna Race?

My plan is to let you guys spend 5 years and to much money, then come out and put it on you with a budget beater. :lol:

If my bucket of crap ain't done by summer of 2013 I will sell it all to Todd for $500.

[intocarss]

If my bucket of crap ain't done by summer of 2013 I will sell it all to Todd for $500.

I'll give you 575.00 and a Sound Garden CD

[badmatt]

I'll give you a grand, and a sound garden T'.

[Vegas69]

If my bucket of crap ain't done by summer of 2013 I will sell it all to Todd for $500.

That's a legal contract....:lol: I have the wire set up for 6/21.

[Matt@BOS]

My plan is to let you guys spend 5 years and to much money, then come out and put it on you with a budget beater. :lol:

And my plan is to wait until Payback's current owner tires of her in five years, scoop her up for pennies on the dollar, buy some triple adjustable JRI's, a few other go fast bits and some other race car parts that Dead Pool's new owner cast aside because they weren't "streetable enough.". :lol: I should have enough cash left over to get you guys lessons at Bondurant so you can be as fast as Greg and I. Well, almost as fast, I'm not paying for a couple rounds of instruction.

[Flash68]

That's a legal contract....:lol: I have the wire set up for 6/21.

My wife keeps telling me not to sign or enter into any agreements without her reading them over first. Doh.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

My wife keeps telling me not to sign or enter into any agreements without her reading them over first. Doh.

that's just wife code for i better be going too.
normal, carry on.

[FETorino]

If my bucket of crap ain't done by summer of 2013 I will sell it all to Todd for $500.

Not a bad deal for a rolling chassis with no motor. :P

[Vegas69]

And my plan is to wait until Payback's current owner tires of her in five years, scoop her up for pennies on the dollar, buy some triple adjustable JRI's, a few other go fast bits and some other race car parts that Dead Pool's new owner cast aside because they weren't "streetable enough.". :lol: I should have enough cash left over to get you guys lessons at Bondurant so you can be as fast as Greg and I. Well, almost as fast, I'm not paying for a couple rounds of instruction.

Send me some of what you're smoking....:unibrow:

[Matt@BOS]

Send me some of what you're smoking....:unibrow:

Only thing(s) I'm smoking now are some old PS2s and Fords. Picked the Camaro up from the engine builder a couple weeks ago, and it is now making 585/565 on a safe baseline tune, on a loaded chassis dyno. We plan on tuning out a few bugs and looking for power once it's got a few miles on it. It already has more torque than Rob's motor so I'm not too concerned about things right now.

Ordinarily I would feel bad about derailing DG's thread, but we are talking about cars and that is pretty special around these parts.

[FETorino]

Send me some of what you're smoking....:unibrow:

He really is smoking some good stuff now. :willy:

:cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

Send me some of what you're smoking....:unibrow:

Only thing(s) I'm smoking now are some old PS2s and Fords. Picked the Camaro up from the engine builder a couple weeks ago, and it is now making 585/565 on a safe baseline tune, on a loaded chassis dyno. We plan on tuning out a few bugs and looking for power once it's got a few miles on it. It already has more torque than Rob's motor so I'm not too concerned about things right now.

Ordinarily I would feel bad about derailing DG's thread, but we are talking about cars and that is pretty special around these parts.

He really is smoking some good stuff now. :willy:

:cheers:

:wow: I'll have what he's having...:cheers:

[Matt@BOS]

Road trip to Colorado anyone? To go to the Good Guys show, of course. :_paranoid

[fleetus macmullitz]

Might as well have some of this too...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/ab392a8855dada7251b5bd748f12d348.jpg

[Vegas69]

Only thing(s) I'm smoking now are some old PS2s and Fords. Picked the Camaro up from the engine builder a couple weeks ago, and it is now making 585/565 on a safe baseline tune, on a loaded chassis dyno. We plan on tuning out a few bugs and looking for power once it's got a few miles on it. It already has more torque than Rob's motor so I'm not too concerned about things right now.

Ordinarily I would feel bad about derailing DG's thread, but we are talking about cars and that is pretty special around these parts.

Nice numbers:thumbsup: Thanks for the video footage and photos...:unibrow:

[Flash68]

It already has more torque than Rob's motor so I'm not too concerned about things right now.



:rofl: Gotta love them SMALL BLOCKS. :thumbsup:

[Matt@BOS]

:rofl: Gotta love them SMALL BLOCKS. :thumbsup:

How much power is that SB2 going to make again?

Todd, I'm not really a video person, but Chad at Bangshift is, and was interested in doing a write up of the "real" intake manifold when it eventually goes on. When that happens is largely dependent on Daves dyno numbers, or Rob's chassis dyno numbers.

[FETorino]

How much power is that SB2 going to make again?

Todd, I'm not really a video person, but Chad at Bangshift is, and was interested in doing a write up of the "real" intake manifold when it eventually goes on. When that happens is largely dependent on Daves dyno numbers, or Rob's chassis dyno numbers.

No video? Hmm sounds suspicios.

They are all apples to oranges unless run on the same Dyno by the same operator. :P

Best to just sort this out at the track:yes:

:cheers:

[Track Junky]

What the latest Dave? Rich paving roads or building cars?

[Matt@BOS]

No video? Hmm sounds suspicios.

They are all apples to oranges unless run on the same Dyno by the same operator. :P

Best to just sort this out at the track:yes:

:cheers:

Suspiscious because you're not used to engines making That much power? Wait! I know you're actually suspiscious because you're not used to small block CHEVYS making that much power.

[Flash68]

How much power is that SB2 going to make again?



Since final compression ratio and cam specs are possibly up in the air, I'll go with this.

Minimum 725 (I'll be disappointed with anything less)

Target 750+ (This should be doable given just the dry sump upgrade and other things staying the same)

775-800 (If things get a little wild with compression and cam)

But don't go holding me to this. :unibrow:



Best to just sort this out at the track:yes:

:cheers:

You got that straight, Buttercup. :thumbsup:

What the latest Dave? Rich paving roads or building cars?

Just finished paving roads before Xmas. Now it's full time Camaro time for Richie. :thumbsup:

Suspiscious because you're not used to engines making That much power? Wait! I know you're actually suspiscious because you're not used to small block CHEVYS making that much power.

:lol: :lateral:

[FETorino]

Suspiscious because you're not used to engines making That much power? Wait! I know you're actually suspiscious because you're not used to small block CHEVYS making that much power.

Just suspicious that THAT motor runs at all.:_paranoid


Since final compression ratio and cam specs are possibly up in the air, I'll go with this.

Minimum 725 (I'll be disappointed with anything less)

Target 750+ (This should be doable given just the dry sump upgrade and other things staying the same)

775-800 (If things get a little wild with compression and cam)

But don't go holding me to this. :unibrow:


:lol: :lateral:

:omg: Is it living so close to Berkeley that makes you such an optimist ? :rofl:

Happy New Year hopefully that thing fires in 2013 :clap:

:cheers:

[intocarss]

Since final compression ratio and cam specs are possibly up in the air, I'll go with this.

Minimum 725 (I'll be disappointed with anything less)

Target 750+ (This should be doable given just the dry sump upgrade and other things staying the same)

775-800 (If things get a little wild with compression and cam)

But don't go holding me to this. :unibrow:


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/0014gr0b.gif

[intocarss]

dOA5PtyGvxk

[fleetus macmullitz]

Nah, I think it's just that ...

G-tCIRJH9p0

[GregWeld]

Happy New Year hopefully that thing fires in 2013 :clap:

:cheers:




Well?????....... We're waiting......:unibrow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

dOA5PtyGvxk


:lol:

That was good.

Sounds like a marriage counselor. ;)

[Track Junky]

Nah, I think it's just that ...

G-tCIRJH9p0


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Flash68]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/so-demotivational-posters-friends.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

Really? :(

I think you should treat us nicer, like they do when we visit Greg Weld at the home...





The Weld Manor home.

[GregWeld]

Really? :(

I think you should treat us nicer, like they do when we visit Greg Weld at the home...





The Weld Manor home.



They keep my diapers clean and my pablum warm.... Now.... What were we talking about??

[fleetus macmullitz]

They keep my diapers clean and my pablum warm.... Now.... What were we talking about??

As long as you're ambulatory, in the future Flash's kids will drop by for hot stock tips...showing off their Dad's new SB4 motor on their iPad 17's.

[GregWeld]

As long as you're ambulatory, in the future Flash's kids will drop by for hot stock tips...showing off their Dad's new SB4 motor on their iPad 17's.




I don't think he's got it in him. That would imply FINISHING the job.

[badmatt]

As long as you're ambulatory, in the future Flash's kids will drop by for hot stock tips...showing off their Dad's new SB4 motor on their iPad 17's.


LOL...

This made my day.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I don't think he's got it in him. That would imply FINISHING the job.

Greg,

That is capricious and arbitrary....and rather harsh.



:P


LOL...

This made my day.


Can't you just picture an older, kinder, gentler (and perhaps sedated) Greg bringing joy and investment strategies into many children's lives...

:D

[FETorino]

As long as you're ambulatory, in the future Flash's kids will drop by for hot stock tips...showing off their Dad's new SB4 motor on their iPad 17's.

I think you meant to say they would be showing off their dads newly completed SB2 motor. It may be running by then.:_paranoid

[Flash68]

Hey hey hey... is it my fault DART doesn't have some main caps sittin on their shelf and they take 4 weeks to ship a set?! :willy:

I am still pickin up parts here and there to move the chains! :theresa:

I like the sound of an SB4, Skip. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

242,000 more views and Dave tops Todd....


Come on guys! If he gets the motor done too soon what chance does he have?!?!

[fleetus macmullitz]

242,000 more views and Dave tops Todd....


Come on guys! If he gets the motor done too soon what chance does he have?!?!

Hey, if it ain't broken...? :D

hjDnGBrhhaQ

[intocarss]

USING MAIN CAPS IS WAAAAAAAAAY OVER RATED!! GET THIS SUCKER MOVING OR I'M JOINING THE TORINO TEAM :willy:

[fleetus macmullitz]

USING MAIN CAPS IS WAAAAAAAAAY OVER RATED!! GET THIS SUCKER MOVING OR I'M JOINING THE TORINO TEAM :willy:

:wow:



You're stern, yet I sense still a fair man.

[intocarss]

:wow:



You're stern, yet I sense still a fair man.y8Kyi0WNg40

[fleetus macmullitz]

y8Kyi0WNg40

LOL³!!!

[Vegas69]

242,000 more views and Dave tops Todd....


Come on guys! If he gets the motor done too soon what chance does he have?!?!



I'm starting to think Intocarss, composmentis, and bad matt are really just Dave trying to make this thread interesting and boost his thread views.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'm starting to think Intocarss, composmentis, and bad matt are really just Dave trying to make this thread interesting and boost his thread views.

If we were the same person, there'd have to be a family resemblance, right?

Maybe someone else sees one, I don't. (I'm on the left, DG's on the right.:_paranoid )

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/wal10.jpg

Now, back to some tech. :unibrow:

DG,

Maybe you covered this already and I missed it...did Jake build the control arms specifically for your car with those monster meats up front?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/IMAG1792.jpg

[intocarss]

Thought this is DAVE???

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/wheels-chevyss-blog480.jpg

[Track Junky]

Whoops....I must have clicked the wrong title.....I was looking for Project Updates :lol:

[nicks67ca]

There is a car being built in this thread? :)

[intocarss]

There is a car being built in this thread? :)

Used to be :P

[Flash68]

Now, back to some tech. :unibrow:

DG,

Maybe you covered this already and I missed it...did Jake build the control arms specifically for your car with those monster meats up front?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/IMAG1792.jpg

Well kinda. Our game plan has been to mimic his AIX 2nd gen car he ran for 3 years before selling to Vinny. I am trying to not reinvent any wheels or be a pioneer at this point. Almost all specs and tuning will be derived from that 2nd gen.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/677B4293-5919-4901-A2AB-A18B052B5512-2330-0000044C0D99B933.jpg



There is a car being built in this thread? :)

Nearly impossible to fathom huh?

if you get one thing done everyday on your project you will finish your car . If it is just ordering a small part it is forward progress. You eat an elephant one bite at a time…..

Mark

Took this quote above from Stielow's thread and I try to follow it every day. Most of the crap is not post worthy but it moves the chains forward.

2 little but important things for instance I've been working on (researching, calling and emailing about, etc) lately are the spark plug cooling holes found in Bowtie/SB2 blocks but not the aftermarket blocks. Most, but not all, drill these holes into the block at a 7 degree to help with detonation.

Also looking at running a vacuum limiter/regulator and installing on my intake valley plate or the valve cover to LIMIT my vacuum for street driving. The Weiss 6 stage pump is a vacuum pulling monster and too much vacuum can be a problem on the street.

I did score this set of 7 Nascar I-Core oil lines off ebay last week. Near mint condition, some of them barely look they were used. Probably paid 25 cents on the dollar for this batch vs new. :thumbsup:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/5265B72D-65B2-4143-931D-2B8255BD8551-2330-000004530B6D3542.jpg

[67zo6Camaro]

Ok, saw a post by the man himself. So, I thought I should stop in and do some lurking. BC has been here. :cool:

[intocarss]

Also looking at running a vacuum limiter/regulator and installing on my intake valley plate or the valve cover to LIMIT my vacuum for street driving. The Weiss 6 stage pump is a vacuum pulling monster and too much vacuum can be a problem on the street.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/eng_vacregfull_M.jpg

Or this

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/moroso.jpg

[68protouring454]

peterson also makes a vacuum regulator

[Track Junky]

Thanks for posting Dave.........Man, you've got some crazy components going into that motor. Good luck moving forward :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Very cool to be able to have that JRS track car as a baseline tune.

Glad you included that Stielow quote. Smart advice that's good to keep in front of gearheads.

Nice, more great deals on the NASCAR stuff you find. You don't follow the trends...you set them. :unibrow:

[Flash68]

Are you talking about something like this?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/eng_vacregfull_M.jpg

Or this

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/moroso.jpg

Both can work, but I like the Peterson unit a little better.

peterson also makes a vacuum regulator

Yep, that's the nicest one I have found thus far.

Thanks for posting Dave.........Man, you've got some crazy components going into that motor. Good luck moving forward :thumbsup:

Thanks. I'd be lying if I said I completely knew what I was getting into. :D

Very cool to be able to have that JRS track car as a baseline tune.

Glad you included that Stielow quote. Smart advice that's good to keep in front of gearheads.

Nice, more great deals on the NASCAR stuff you find. You don't follow the trends...you set them. :unibrow:

Jake is a dedicated racer and does very well in American Iron and keeps getting better. His new 4th gen car is a step up to the next level.

And it's hard to go wrong listening to some of the wisdom of Stielow. :unibrow:

I am a decent trend setter at buying junk motors. :lol:

[Ron in SoCal]

Thanks. I'd be lying if I said I completely knew what I was getting into. :D

I am a decent trend setter at buying junk motors. :lol:

Incoming! :lol:

[GregWeld]

You don't follow the trends...you set them. :unibrow:




Just stop that!



This is, and shall remain - a beat down thread....

[fleetus macmullitz]

Just stop that!

This is, and shall remain - a beat down thread....

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


GwTHY65Lp_o

[intocarss]

Thanks. I'd be lying if I said I completely knew what I was getting into. :D





Non of us Hot rodders/Racers ever knows what we're getting into :wow: BUT it sure sounds good in our heads :_paranoid

[96z28ss]

Thanks. I'd be lying if I said I completely knew what I was getting into. :D


I am a decent trend setter at buying junk motors. :lol:

I need a SBC to LS currency converter, how many LS engines would that have bought now?

This thread should be made a sticky or put in a hall of fame section for being a project thread and the majority of the post are just us ribbing him. Hardly actual progress posts. It's almost approaching Payback post count. LOL

[Flash68]

Non of us Hot rodders/Racers ever knows what we're getting into :wow: BUT it sure sounds good in our heads :_paranoid

:thumbsup:

I need a SBC to LS currency converter, how many LS engines would that have bought now?

This thread should be made a sticky or put in a hall of fame section for being a project thread and the majority of the post are just us ribbing him. Hardly actual progress posts. It's almost approaching Payback post count. LOL

I have thought about the LS to SB2 exchange rate and I'm still barely ahead if we are talking about a full monty LS7 with all the goodies probably. Thanks for reminding me. But I think an SB2 will still sound better. :unibrow:

I dunno about the view count... I think it's about the same handful of people ribbing and viewing. :D

[badmatt]

I'm starting to think Intocarss, composmentis, and bad matt are really just Dave trying to make this thread interesting and boost his thread views.

Woah Woah Woah.....

WOAH... My motor's actually together...

[fleetus macmullitz]

The only thread count DG cares about is how much his Sérgio Mendes sport coat has...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/qXm0a.jpg

[Sieg]

I am trying to not reinvent any wheels or be a pioneer at this point.

_VrFV5r8cs0

[intocarss]

The only thread count DG cares about is how much his Sérgio Mendes sport coat has...



And his sheets DON"T forget about the sheets!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

And his sheets DON"T forget about the sheets!!

:lol:

I ain't goin there cuz...

_VrFV5r8cs0

[Flash68]

After 4 weeks Dart's main caps finally showed up at the machine shop. I was actually there asking for the direct phone # to Mike's rep at Dart so I could call and the UPS lady walked in and dropped them off. :thumbsup:

Things start moving now and should go pretty quick (hopefully).

If my calcs and assumptions (based on seller's info) are close, we should end up with static CR in the high 12's or low 13's. And I have an idea I introduced to Mike today about running a certain pump gas for this. And it's cheaper than 91 octane. :unibrow: He's never done one before, but he said he's open to it once we get all the head, piston and related critical measurements verified. He said "it's just fuel." :unibrow: Hopefully this idea works out...

Oh, and before I brought this up Mike was his usual self talking about customers in general who don't have a great plan and end up changing things (he was talking to me about me :D) and that they "need to be slapped in the face sometimes." :rofl:

Crank is back and weighed in at 49#. Pretty svelte I thought for a 4" stroker.

Was there a Torino around here somewhere lookin for trouble?

[sixnina]

That's awesome Dave I'm getting excited
For you.Are you gonna continue to run Spintechs behind this motor too?
Reason I was asking is I think ima go that route on mine and wondered which ones to get I'm gonna use 3" throughout.Thanks for any feedback,
Shane

[fleetus macmullitz]

Oh, and before I brought this up Mike was his usual self talking about customers in general who don't have a great plan and end up changing things (he was talking to me about me :D) and that they "need to be slapped in the face sometimes." :rofl:



:lol:


Wow... and I thought this bunch here was the bad cop! ;)

[GregWeld]

Wow what a difference one (well okay more than one) little part makes.....

Woke this dead thread right up!!!


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Wow what a difference one (well okay more than one) little part makes.....

Woke this dead thread right up!!!


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Yeah, but not as much as those anodized purple thingies.

Technically at this point in the game all he got was feet for an antique coffee table.

:woot: :woot: SBC train is leaving the station! :woot: :woot:

[DFRESH]

I've been gone for nearly 4 months---I was able to read just the last page of posts and feel completely caught up. It's exactly how I remember it.

Congrats on the main caps---amazing how long race motors can take to compile isn't it? Were you starting to wonder what lunar material Dart had to scrape off the space shuttle before they could tool those things up for you? 4 weeks for main caps---that is absurd.

Todd could've whittled those up on his ban saw/bench grinder in like 3.5 days.

D

[GregWeld]

Todd could've whittled those up on his ban saw/bench grinder in like 3.5 days.

D




Does he still do car stuff??



:lol:

[FETorino]

If my calcs and assumptions (based on seller's info) are close, we should end up with static CR in the high 12's or low 13's. And I have an idea I introduced to Mike today about running a certain pump gas for this. And it's cheaper than 91 octane. :unibrow: He's never done one before, but he said he's open to it once we get all the head, piston and related critical measurements verified. He said "it's just fuel." :unibrow: Hopefully this idea works out...

Oh, and before I brought this up Mike was his usual self talking about customers in general who don't have a great plan and end up changing things (he was talking to me about me :D) and that they "need to be slapped in the face sometimes." :rofl:

Crank is back and weighed in at 49#. Pretty svelte I thought for a 4" stroker.

Was there a Torino around here somewhere lookin for trouble?

Wow what a difference one (well okay more than one) little part makes.....

Woke this dead thread right up!!!


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

GW don't you see a fly in the ointment in DGs progress or is it just me?:rolleyes: