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badmatt
08-17-2012, 07:44 PM
Nice... I need A distributor before I can get MOR. :D



lucky for you I know a guy.

:cheers:

Vegas69
08-17-2012, 10:08 PM
LOL! So we now know why your 69 is being sold! to build a race car! :D

This coming from the guy that would get smoked by my Grandma. :unibrow:

FETorino
08-17-2012, 10:34 PM
On the dyno it must smell like an OUSCI invite waitin' to happen. :unibrow:

Yea now that they know you are building a car the invite should be in the mail that's the way it works for everybody right ? :_paranoid

:cheers:

Flash68
08-17-2012, 11:14 PM
Yea now that they know you are building a car the invite should be in the mail that's the way it works for everybody right ? :_paranoid

:cheers:

It's tough to make a 1st gen stand out these days for the big show... we're working on it and I'd be lying if I said didn't want an invite. :thumbsup:

fleetus macmullitz
08-17-2012, 11:39 PM
It's tough to make a 1st gen stand out these days for the big show... we're working on it and I'd be lying if I said didn't want an invite. :thumbsup:

...and if received would automatically renew your lat-g man card another 5 years.


:D

sik68
08-18-2012, 08:26 AM
It's tough to make a 1st gen stand out these days for the big show...

Yeah it must be tough; so what's your angle, it has ford stripes, or everything on your car is a hand-me-down? :rofl: :cheers:

James OLC
08-18-2012, 09:23 AM
Yeah it must be tough; so what's your angle, it has ford stripes, or everything on your car is a hand-me-down? :rofl: :cheers:

yeah... But some of those hand-me-downs have OUSCI experience... :unibrow:

fleetus macmullitz
08-18-2012, 10:27 AM
yeah... But some of those hand-me-downs have OUSCI experience... :unibrow:

...so there will be no 'Braking Bad(ly). :D

sik68
08-18-2012, 10:43 AM
yeah... But some of those hand-me-downs have OUSCI experience... :unibrow:

This is true! And be it known that I have a lot of DGs parts earmarked for when he eventually goes for the next round of upgrades...or is it too soon to say BMF2? :unibrow:

Flash68
08-18-2012, 11:05 AM
Yeah it must be tough; so what's your angle, it has ford stripes, or everything on your car is a hand-me-down? :rofl: :cheers:

Those are both pretty good reasons . I love me some hand me downs. Susan and I buy almost everything these days at the flea markets. We're addicted. :D

yeah... But some of those hand-me-downs have OUSCI experience... :unibrow:

Pedigree, baby! :thumbsup:

...so there will be no 'Braking Bad(ly). :D

Is that related to Breaking Benjamin? :captain:

This is true! And be it known that I have a lot of DGs parts earmarked for when he eventually goes for the next round of upgrades...or is it too soon to say BMF2? :unibrow:

Man I hope I am getting toward the end of the upgrades with this phase... what's left? Tube chassis and acid dipped full fiberglass shell? :willy:

Maybe those side windows you posted in Rupp's thread? :unibrow:

DFRESH
08-18-2012, 11:38 AM
Hey, where are you and the future Mrs. Gordon registered?

DSE--Summit--JCG--IronWorks--? Want to start saving now--Greg, Todd and I may chip in on a gift---potential split looks like 95, 2.5, 2.5.

67zo6Camaro
08-18-2012, 12:53 PM
Hey, where are you and the future Mrs. Gordon registered?

DSE--Summit--JCG--IronWorks--? Want to start saving now--Greg, Todd and I may chip in on a gift---potential split looks like 95, 2.5, 2.5.

Do you even know her name, or are you just buttering up Dave so you can drive that bitchen car he's building.:yes: :rofl:

Vegas69
08-18-2012, 01:02 PM
Hey, where are you and the future Mrs. Gordon registered?

DSE--Summit--JCG--IronWorks--? Want to start saving now--Greg, Todd and I may chip in on a gift---potential split looks like 95, 2.5, 2.5.

Already told him not to expect anything but our presence. :lol:

Flash68
08-18-2012, 09:00 PM
Hey, where are you and the future Mrs. Gordon registered?

DSE--Summit--JCG--IronWorks--? Want to start saving now--Greg, Todd and I may chip in on a gift---potential split looks like 95, 2.5, 2.5.

We are registered at Road Touring Customs a.k.a. Rich Bermea, LLC only. :unibrow:

Do you even know her name, or are you just buttering up Dave so you can drive that bitchen car he's building.:yes: :rofl:

I like your style Brett. :D

Already told him not to expect anything but our presence. :lol:

Ya know buddy you're not that big a deal after you sell that car. :rofl: :cheers:

intocarss
08-30-2012, 05:24 PM
Bump :mad:

GregWeld
08-30-2012, 05:32 PM
Hey, where are you and the future Mrs. Gordon registered?

DSE--Summit--JCG--IronWorks--? Want to start saving now--Greg, Todd and I may chip in on a gift---potential split looks like 95, 2.5, 2.5.



That 2.5% doesn't look like much now does it.... but you know - 2.5% of a big number is still a big number...


From what I've seen --- all they need is each other - and a room.....


:cheers:

Vegas69
08-30-2012, 05:38 PM
I'd like to treat this just like I do when Kelli buys her parents Christmas gifts. Go ahead and write my name on the card so I get credit. :lol:

Greg, his days of getting laid and going fast(Much slower than some) are fading out in the rear view mirror.:D

Blake Foster
08-30-2012, 06:16 PM
I'd like to treat this just like I do when Kelli buys her parents Christmas gifts. Go ahead and write my name on the card so I get credit. :lol:

Greg, his days of getting laid and going fast(Much slower than some) are fading out in the rear view mirror.:D

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS!!!!

Good luck buddy!
let me know when the car is for sale, i might be interested

badmatt
08-30-2012, 06:27 PM
let me know when the car is for sale, i might be interested

LOL! :rofl:

Track Junky
08-30-2012, 06:42 PM
What can I say that already hasn't been said. :rolleyes: :lol:

FETorino
08-30-2012, 08:57 PM
I'm just depressed because he will still probably get his running before I get mine done.:yes: Even though his weekends are spent looking at color pallets and flooring samples.

fleetus macmullitz
08-30-2012, 09:06 PM
let me know when the car is for sale, i might be interested

Blake,

You do know it's been parted out, right?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/abd-141.gif

Sieg
08-30-2012, 09:10 PM
Bump :mad:

Happy now? :rofl:

Vegas69
08-30-2012, 09:10 PM
He's probably folding the laundry right now.:rofl:

Ron in SoCal
08-30-2012, 09:14 PM
He's probably folding the laundry right now.:rofl:

Dishes...:lol:

fleetus macmullitz
08-30-2012, 09:17 PM
DG could buy a gas cap and this thread would take off.

Sad, sad...

Apparently he's got carizzma or sumpthin...caught it south of the border.

intocarss
08-30-2012, 09:22 PM
Happy now? :rofl: They're all just scared. Lord helmet has em rt where he wants em :unibrow:

Dishes...:lol:

Is your car done yet there Valley Boy??? :P

Ron in SoCal
08-30-2012, 09:37 PM
Is your car done yet there Valley Boy??? :P

You decide to show up after a couple weeks and all of a sudden you're throwing daggers? :lol:

Don't you owe me a return call? :cheers:

Flash68
08-30-2012, 10:04 PM
You guys are absolutely killing me.

So do you fellas recommend water or oil based deck stain? :D

intocarss
08-30-2012, 10:10 PM
You decide to show up after a couple weeks and all of a sudden you're throwing daggers? :lol:

Don't you owe me a return call? :cheers: I tried calling but there was a message saying "Phone under construction" :woot:

FETorino
08-30-2012, 10:28 PM
I tried calling but there was a message saying "Phone under construction" :woot:

Wait 28 more days it will be on :D

GregWeld
08-30-2012, 10:47 PM
You guys are absolutely killing me.

So do you fellas recommend water or oil based deck stain? :D

Water based -- that way you can use your left over soapy dish water to clean up the brush....

Track Junky
08-31-2012, 04:51 AM
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i424/valenl87/deereatingpopcorn.gif

Rick D
08-31-2012, 05:40 AM
Dave, you should have you own section for all the sh!t you get :lol: 179 pages and there's really only 5 pages of the actual project updates :rofl:

The beat up Dave section!! :D

fleetus macmullitz
08-31-2012, 07:14 AM
Dave, you should have you own section for all the sh!t you get :lol: 179 pages and there's really only 5 pages of the actual project updates :rofl:

The beat up Dave section!! :D

Are you kidding? He stands on the sidelines watching us entertain him.

He's like some sort of Machiavellian lat-g puppetmaster.



:lol:

GregWeld
08-31-2012, 07:55 AM
Dave, you should have you own section for all the sh!t you get :lol: 179 pages and there's really only 5 pages of the actual project updates :rofl:

The beat up Dave section!! :D



Without threads like this - I'd have to double my Prozac...

Ron in SoCal
08-31-2012, 09:18 AM
Are you kidding? He stands on the sidelines watching us entertain him.

He's like some sort of Machiavellian lat-g puppetmaster.

:lol:

That's a fact...:lol:

badmatt
08-31-2012, 09:20 AM
That's a fact...:lol:

I look at it this way, I puppeted him into an SB2 motor... he had intake jealousy.

fleetus macmullitz
08-31-2012, 09:27 AM
... he had intake jealousy.

It happens...

_V-2NKUlzns

intocarss
09-07-2012, 07:00 PM
Where the H#ll is Flash?? Did he....

PGJfruLLiyk

fleetus macmullitz
09-07-2012, 07:20 PM
IIRC, tomorrow he... uh ...it goes off.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/1332267179_penguin_pushes_friend_of.gif

FETorino
09-07-2012, 07:34 PM
Details are slim to prevent uninvited guests.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/kill_bill_3.jpg

intocarss
09-07-2012, 09:00 PM
Found him!!

F5Rv7OfSoeA

Sieg
09-07-2012, 09:18 PM
Glad to know he's making himself feel good. :thumbsup:

GregWeld
09-07-2012, 09:39 PM
I've had way better acid than that!

Flash68
09-07-2012, 11:05 PM
for the peanut gallery..... this 575 pound box is incoming.... :unibrow:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo-23.jpg

FETorino
09-07-2012, 11:08 PM
for the peanut gallery..... this 575 pound box is incoming.... :unibrow:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo-23.jpg

What is it a marble top Dinette set?

Vince@Meanstreets
09-07-2012, 11:11 PM
Scan shows a diamond crested,gold plated changing table with built in air compressor and ventilation system.

Flash68
09-07-2012, 11:19 PM
Man I can't catch a break here.... :lol:

intocarss
09-07-2012, 11:21 PM
for the peanut gallery..... this 575 pound box is incoming.... :unibrow:



Wedding cake??

fleetus macmullitz
09-08-2012, 12:42 AM
for the peanut gallery..... this 575 pound box is incoming.... :unibrow:



A relative, or soon to be in-law, with interesting travel habits?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/poefv8b3qc5ge.jpg

GregWeld
09-08-2012, 06:20 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm using this as my new desktop wallpaper.....

Sieg
09-08-2012, 06:40 AM
Saw that pic late last night (and LMAO) and figured it was going ruin somebody's morning coffee experience.........I under-estimated the fact that you would find it attractive. :woot:

fleetus macmullitz
09-08-2012, 06:48 AM
All kidding aside for a few milliseconds...

Pre-congrats today DG to you and Susan on this momentous occasion for you both! :thumbsup:

EBMC
09-08-2012, 08:21 AM
A relative, or soon to be in-law, with interesting travel habits?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/poefv8b3qc5ge.jpg

Ive never seen ankles hit the ground before feet...hmmm, something new everyday....

Vince@Meanstreets
09-08-2012, 09:28 AM
At first I thought she was wearing a meat snuggie....

Yes here here! Good luck today and happy prosperous times ahead...I was this close to being gaetanos +2.

coolwelder62
09-08-2012, 09:29 AM
A relative, or soon to be in-law, with interesting travel habits?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/poefv8b3qc5ge.jpgIs this what they call Camel Toe.!!!!!!!!!:willy: :willy: :willy:

fleetus macmullitz
09-08-2012, 10:13 AM
Considering what we must mean to Flash, it's not unreasonable to expect timely updates from him today, is it?

After that big lady photo, I think it's safe to say us married folk all appreciate our wives more now. :_paranoid

intocarss
09-08-2012, 10:22 AM
A relative, or soon to be in-law, with interesting travel habits?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/poefv8b3qc5ge.jpg WHOA!!!! HE'S GONA NEED A LOT MORE THEN 843 hp AND 700TQ!!!


HAVE A GREAT SAFE WEDDING AND I HOPE YOU AND THE "LIL" MRS HAVE A WONDERFUL HEALTY HAPPY LIFE TOGETHER

fleetus macmullitz
09-08-2012, 11:09 AM
Saw that pic late last night (and LMAO) and figured it was going ruin somebody's morning coffee experience.........I under-estimated the fact that you would find it attractive. :woot:

:lol:

Ive never seen ankles hit the ground before feet...hmmm, something new everyday....

:_paranoid

At first I thought she was wearing a meat snuggie....



Oh man that's funny. :D

Is this what they call Camel Toe.!!!!!!!!!:willy: :willy: :willy:

WHOA!!!! HE'S GONA NEED A LOT MORE THEN 843 hp AND 700TQ!!!



:lol:

fleetus macmullitz
09-09-2012, 06:12 AM
Always a risk when a lat-g contingent shows up at your gala event...

k13j8mm4Gk8

intocarss
09-09-2012, 02:44 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/thumbnail-1.jpg

67zo6Camaro
09-09-2012, 02:54 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/thumbnail-1.jpg

I second that ^^^^

And Congrats my fellow gear head.

Flash68
09-09-2012, 07:05 PM
Thanks guys... I think.... and thanks for all who have successfully made this the most non-car thread on a car forum pretty much ever. :lol:

Guess it's a good thing I'm a mod so I can eventually clean up 98.4% of the posts on here when I get around to it. :willy:

Wedding: Check.

Reception: Check.

Finally ready to get on back to making some progress on the 68 Camaro I think I own..... Check!

:cheers:

intocarss
09-09-2012, 07:09 PM
Guess it's a good thing I'm a mod so I can eventually clean up 98.4% of the posts on here when I get around to it. :willy:



:cheers: And you'll end up with only the first page :wow:

fleetus macmullitz
09-09-2012, 08:21 PM
for the peanut gallery..... this 575 pound box is incoming.... :unibrow:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo-23.jpg

Double congrats! :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal
09-09-2012, 08:23 PM
Finally ready to get on back to making some progress on the 68 Camaro I think I own..... Check!

:cheers:

Check! :thumbsup:

badmatt
09-09-2012, 08:25 PM
this thread needs moar SB2...

Sieg
09-09-2012, 08:26 PM
Wedding: Check.

Reception: Check.

Getting lucky: ?

Good nights sleep: Check.

Congrats Dave! :thumbsup:

Can't wait for your return to your motorheadness ways.
Shouldn't be long after she see's her endowment. :D

fleetus macmullitz
09-09-2012, 08:30 PM
Finally ready to get on back to making some progress on the 68 Camaro I think I own.....

It should feel lighter...



...you now own half a car.


:_paranoid

FETorino
09-09-2012, 08:30 PM
Thanks guys... I think.... and thanks for all who have successfully made this the most non-car thread on a car forum pretty much ever. :lol:

Guess it's a good thing I'm a mod so I can eventually clean up 98.4% of the posts on here when I get around to it. :willy:

Wedding: Check.

Reception: Check.

Finally ready to get on back to making some progress on the 68 Camaro I think I own..... Check!

:cheers:

Congrats bud. :thumbsup:

Marrying my wife was the best move I've ever made; I wish you the same luck. Just like a PT car they do require some maintenance to maintain peak performance. :D

You may have left out a couple to dos you need to check between Reception and making progress on the 68. I can think of one for sure :unibrow: :_paranoid

Sieg
09-09-2012, 08:35 PM
It should feel lighter...



...you now own half a car.


:_paranoid

Technical Foul!

Legit but still a technical all the same. :rofl:

Tom.A
09-09-2012, 08:56 PM
Congrats Dave:cheers:

WSSix
09-09-2012, 09:12 PM
Congrats Dave!

GregWeld
09-09-2012, 09:29 PM
Shouldn't be long after she see's her endowment. :D



...... and that's when the fight started.....




:cheers:

Flash68
09-09-2012, 11:59 PM
:lol:

Thanks guys. Genuinely appreciate it all. I've lucked out for sure.

Nessumsar
09-10-2012, 10:42 AM
Congrats on getting hitched Dave! Its nice to see a good guy find a good girl. :thumbsup:

Where are you guys going for the honeymoon? Crate and Barrel? :lol:

:cheers:

mdprovee
09-10-2012, 12:30 PM
Boy, you can't catch one break Dave. Too funny.

torino420
09-10-2012, 03:29 PM
Congrats Dave! Now time for kids :D

Finish the car first......

EBMC
09-10-2012, 03:57 PM
Congrats Dave! Now time for kids :D

Finish the car first......

Yes, by all means finish the car FIRST!
Congrats!:cheers:

intocarss
09-10-2012, 05:40 PM
Its even got a sippy cup holder :thumbsup:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/00000118750-GracoUltraCarGoBoosterCarSeatinSimpsonRacing8487SM P-large.jpg

THE RING IS ON NOW PUT THE ENG IN!!

DFRESH
09-10-2012, 07:38 PM
Where the H#ll is Flash?? Did he....

PGJfruLLiyk

LOL man--that was awesome. Oily bo hunk---LOL

89 RS
09-10-2012, 10:05 PM
Congrats on the nuptials Dave!
Ok, now back to the regularly scheduled program...the Camaro. :D

Sieg
09-10-2012, 10:12 PM
I can't believe there's no wedding pictures posted yet. :mad:

Vegas69
09-10-2012, 10:29 PM
From Left to Right: Fastest, Richest, Most Excuses, Put a Fork in Him, Show Touring, Get Me Another Bud Light:lol:

Flash68
09-10-2012, 10:32 PM
From Left to Right: Fastest, Richest, Most Excuses, Put a Fork in Him, Show Touring, Get Me Another Bud Light:lol:

:rofl: HAHAHA that is awesome man. :cheers:

89 RS
09-10-2012, 10:33 PM
From Left to Right: Fastest, Richest, Most Excuses, Put a Fork in Him, Show Touring, Get Me Another Bud Light:lol:

:lol: :lol:

Sieg
09-10-2012, 10:56 PM
From Left to Right: Fastest, Richest, Most Excuses, Put a Fork in Him, Show Touring, Get Me Another Bud Light:lol:
Priceless!

Greg needs his shorts hemmed about a foot to blend in with the gang. :D

fleetus macmullitz
09-10-2012, 11:22 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/attachment-14.jpg

Looked more like like he was in pain...Greg that is. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4vsrBfYx8w&feature=player_embedded

Track Junky
09-10-2012, 11:43 PM
Thats a great pic. Check out Ron pointing and laughing at Rich holding a water :lol:

67zo6Camaro
09-11-2012, 07:55 AM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/attachment-14.jpg

Looked more like like he was in pain...Greg that is. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4vsrBfYx8w&feature=player_embedded

Ok, now I know. That's the new "Good Ol' boys" club.
Next thing you know we will be seeing ads for some Run up the Hill events and a new web site called LatgyHigh selling over priced parts..... Ouch did I just say that out loud. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


I feel left out.:rolleyes:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Flash68
09-11-2012, 08:47 AM
Brett, you were on the list but Ron told me he intercepted the invite since he didn't want you missing any time on Dead Pool. Little did he know you'd be out schooling people at Adams. :D

intocarss
09-11-2012, 05:29 PM
WHOA!! I had no idea Tracky was so big :wow: I better be nice to him :_paranoid

tones2SS
09-11-2012, 05:38 PM
Congrats to you and your wife Dave.
That photo is priceless. Awesome.:thumbsup:

intocarss
09-17-2012, 12:12 AM
The honeymoon's over & Todd closed his thread.. So give us updates on your D*MN car!! :lateral:

Sieg
09-17-2012, 12:17 AM
The honeymoon's over & Todd closed his thread.. So give us updates on your D*MN car!! :lateral:

What He Said! :theresa:

67zo6Camaro
09-17-2012, 08:55 PM
^^^^ x3 ^^^^

With Payback locked and now new build thread,,, Im kinda sad...:D

So you are my new hero now DG. Show me the goods. you know the fat chick in the box please. :wow:

fleetus macmullitz
09-17-2012, 09:29 PM
So you are my new hero now DG. Show me the goods. you know the fat chick in the box please. :wow:


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/251431_10151073526641715_118128402_.jpg

Flash68
09-17-2012, 09:45 PM
Sorry boys. I got nothing yet. :_paranoid

Just lots of emails, calls and general research being done on stuff like dry sump systems and floaters. :thumbsup:

Rich has been busy with a couple other projects but we should be getting back on the train here soon.

I am still on the fence about flares. I really really wanna do it but that's a big step. And you can't go back.

We'll be inspecting the Sb2 a little closer this week at Watson. Need to pull the pan off and send it back to seller anyway.

Brett -- I am honored to be your new hero. :lol:

intocarss
09-17-2012, 10:18 PM
Sorry boys. I got nothing yet. :_paranoid


:mad: Guess we'll go hang out in the dead pool thread for a while :willy:

Flash68
09-17-2012, 10:20 PM
:mad: Guess we'll go hang out in the dead pool thread for a while :willy:

Is the retarded monkey you're looking for over there? :_paranoid

intocarss
09-17-2012, 10:28 PM
Is the retarded monkey you're looking for over there? :_paranoid

No but Ron is :rofl:

FETorino
09-17-2012, 10:29 PM
Nothing? You got nothing? Not even strange ideas floating in your head?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/dynowestcamaro2.jpg

intocarss
09-17-2012, 10:30 PM
Nothing? You got nothing? Not even strange ideas floating in your head?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/dynowestcamaro2.jpg

That kicks ass :thumbsup: Do it Dave do it!!!

FETorino
09-17-2012, 10:38 PM
That kicks ass :thumbsup: Do it Dave do it!!!

That with a wing like James did would be sweeeeeet:wow:

intocarss
09-17-2012, 10:46 PM
eWiECcLEJTQ&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LL5fmGBuPX-szSNRcB9QBs3Q

Payton King
09-18-2012, 06:14 AM
was a red second gen? I remember that movie, had Wonder Woman (Linda something) in it with a skinny dipping scene.

Track Junky
09-18-2012, 06:20 AM
eWiECcLEJTQ&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LL5fmGBuPX-szSNRcB9QBs3Q

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

intocarss
09-18-2012, 05:29 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Yup Tracky, I saw that movie when I was 14... it got me 100% hooked on Camaros :woot:

Track Junky
09-18-2012, 07:15 PM
Yup Tracky, I saw that movie when I was 14... it got me 100% hooked on Camaros :woot:

Reminds me of the good old days. ;) :cheers:

Flash68
09-18-2012, 08:52 PM
Nothing? You got nothing? Not even strange ideas floating in your head?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/dynowestcamaro2.jpg

Oh yeah I know lots about that car. The builder is a friend of Rich's and has helped us on occasion. That thing is off the charts cool.

Payton -- where is that bad ass 2nd gen with the wing you showed me a pic of recently? That thing was sick.

FETorino
09-18-2012, 09:43 PM
Oh yeah I know lots about that car. The builder is a friend of Rich's and has helped us on occasion. That thing is off the charts cool.

Payton -- where is that bad ass 2nd gen with the wing you showed me a pic of recently? That thing was sick.

Is there a badder second gen with a wing than Johns? I don't think so....

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w136/speedjohnston/DSC02288.jpg

Flash68
09-18-2012, 10:23 PM
That's BA for sure, but this one is actually on a track. :thumbsup: Payton sent it to me a while back.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/539247_249351175184094_1090632212_n_zps8dd25072.jp g

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/625475_249350408517504_1286641545_n_zps01d15353.jp g

FETorino
09-18-2012, 10:34 PM
That's BA for sure, but this one is actually on a track. :thumbsup: Payton sent it to me a while back.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/539247_249351175184094_1090632212_n_zps8dd25072.jp g

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/625475_249350408517504_1286641545_n_zps01d15353.jp g

That can't be a race car those look like 19s or 20s on the rear :rofl:

Have you bought your wing yet? :willy:

Vegas69
09-19-2012, 07:14 AM
Oh baby:unibrow:

Track Junky
09-19-2012, 07:35 AM
The Real Deal :unibrow:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_JDu9XOEZlJU/TEpLixDA0YI/AAAAAAAAA8Y/d6UruNYLDsE/s720/IMG_0010.JPG

skatinjay27
09-19-2012, 12:16 PM
holy shiz! that red one is awesome!!!!

Vegas69
09-19-2012, 01:42 PM
holy shiz! that red one is awesome!!!!

Sell me yours, we'll make one. :unibrow:

gerno
09-19-2012, 01:52 PM
Both the silver and red one are sick. I like both front spoilers and it helps give me some more ideas for my build.

skatinjay27
09-19-2012, 02:07 PM
Sell me yours, we'll make one. :unibrow:

i would love to help you build a badazz RACE car (that stomps flash dancer)
BUT you aint making it out of my baby!:P
it might not be for another 10 years but ill get that car going sooner or later!:D

Bucketlist2012
09-19-2012, 07:45 PM
Congrats Dave...

Big step but well worth it..

Now back to our regularly scheduled B.S.

Bucketlist2012
09-19-2012, 07:48 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/attachment-14.jpg

Looked more like like he was in pain...Greg that is. :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4vsrBfYx8w&feature=player_embedded

Can I get names of who is who ?

I need to know who I am talking to...

And who I may be chasing someday...

You can call my Car the "caboose"...:lateral:

skatinjay27
09-19-2012, 08:02 PM
todd (formerly vegas69), king weld, dr doug renner, some flashy dude who likes soundgarden lol, (i think) ron from so cal, rich berma of road touring customs

Bucketlist2012
09-19-2012, 08:30 PM
Thanks. Now I have a face with their name...

Mike.:cheers:

Flash68
09-19-2012, 09:40 PM
Both the silver and red one are sick. I like both front spoilers and it helps give me some more ideas for my build.

Same here. These pics of bad ass winged creatures with flares are getting me pretty amped up. :thumbsup:

i would love to help you build a badazz RACE car (that stomps flash dancer)


Good luck with that. :D You going to Optima this year?

Congrats Dave...

Big step but well worth it..



Thanks Mike. :cheers:

intocarss
09-20-2012, 07:00 PM
todd (formerly vegas69), king weld, dr doug renner, some flashy dude who likes soundgarden lol, (i think) ron from so cal, rich berma of road touring customs That's Dfresh in the black shirt? I thought that was Gae. HMMM, which one should I apologize to :P

GregWeld
09-20-2012, 07:43 PM
That's Dfresh in the black shirt? I thought that was Gae. HMMM, which one should I apologize to :P



Neither.

waynieZ
09-20-2012, 08:48 PM
Definitely a Motley crew if I ever saw one! Looks like a good time.

89 RS
09-20-2012, 09:22 PM
holy shiz! that red one is awesome!!!!

Right on!! :unibrow:

skatinjay27
09-21-2012, 12:01 PM
Good luck with that. :D You going to Optima this year?


:yeah i plan to! :thumbsup:

DFRESH
09-21-2012, 01:02 PM
From Left to Right: Fastest, Richest, Most Excuses, Put a Fork in Him, Show Touring, Get Me Another Bud Light:lol:

LOL man--you are good

DFRESH
09-21-2012, 01:11 PM
Neither.

Nice.

You notice Gae didn't correct him GW? I think he liked being DFRESH for a day.

skatinjay27
09-21-2012, 01:25 PM
Nice.

You notice Gae didn't correct him GW? I think he liked being DFRESH for a day.

hey as long as its on a day your not wearing SHAPE UPS i wouldnt mind being a giant for a day.

FETorino
09-21-2012, 06:06 PM
I remember back when DG was building a car and his thread had SB2 heads and and little carbs and stuff posted on it. I know it's been forever but it seems like yesterday. ...... :rofl:

He should probably just buy a late model Mustang like Matt. so he has a running car:_paranoid
:cheers:

DFRESH
09-21-2012, 06:14 PM
hey as long as its on a day your not wearing SHAPE UPS i wouldnt mind being a giant for a day.

Classic

makoshark
09-21-2012, 06:16 PM
When are you going to start a build thread?:)

Flash68
09-21-2012, 07:41 PM
When are you going to start a build thread?:)

Tell me about it.

I'm getting my team in place now.

Rich Bermea @ Road Touring Customs is the General Contractor/Builder.

Jake Parrott @ Jake's Rod Shop is Chief Chassis and Suspension Tuning Officer

Brett Campbell @ Fab53 is my Special Projects and Skunkworks Specialist.

I think it's a pretty sweet team if I do say so myself. :unibrow:

:lateral:

GregWeld
09-21-2012, 08:11 PM
Mustang envy....







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/MU0X0033_zps893f2230.jpg

Sieg
09-21-2012, 08:12 PM
No team CFO? :D

Track Junky
09-21-2012, 09:45 PM
Nice.

You notice Gae didn't correct him GW? I think he liked being DFRESH for a day.

Great....and I thought Todd was the only one with an inflated head :lol:

Flash68
09-21-2012, 09:47 PM
Mustang envy....







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/MU0X0033_zps893f2230.jpg

Hey that's in the shop too if I recall. :willy:

No team CFO? :D

Well that better be me. :D

fleetus macmullitz
09-21-2012, 10:04 PM
No team CFO? :D

She'll be at ALL the events, get the BMF slush fund under control, recommend bail bondsman... etc.

Vegas69
09-22-2012, 08:46 AM
You could have Chad Knaus for a crew chief and Mario Andretti for a coach. If the dog won't hunt, it doesn't matter. :D

GregWeld
09-22-2012, 09:08 AM
Hey that's in the shop too if I recall. :willy:



True - but mine is actually being worked on..... Motor is at Odo's place now. In fact, you should go over and see it for me.





:D

fleetus macmullitz
09-22-2012, 09:27 AM
I still think these are great awning colors...

DG, can I powerwash that sky blue color out of my siding?


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/MU0X0033_zps8d7fddce.jpg

Flash68
09-22-2012, 10:29 AM
You could have Chad Knaus for a crew chief and Mario Andretti for a coach. If the dog won't hunt, it doesn't matter. :D

I think I fell on a bird or 2 previously with 2 decent legs. Wait til I get my 2 new carbon fiber prototype prosthetic legs. I'll show you some hunting.

Since you're an armchair / fantasy football GM now, what other wisdom ya got for me? :lol:

True - but mine is actually being worked on..... Motor is at Odo's place now. In fact, you should go over and see it for me.





:D

I would stop by if I ever get up that way soon. Would like to see the guts of that motor.

I still think these are great awning colors...

DG, can I powerwash that sky blue color out of my siding?


]

I'd say you need a minimum 10,000 psi. That won't damage your siding. :_paranoid

Flash68
09-22-2012, 10:43 AM
I am hurrying to eat my cereal and get ready to go play tennis with the wife and was on the laptop at the same time.... and she says "hurry up and eat your damn cereal and quit pretending to be THE MAN on the forum."

What a darling.

:rofl: :rofl:

DFRESH
09-22-2012, 11:10 AM
I am hurrying to eat my cereal and get ready to go play tennis with the wife and was on the laptop at the same time.... and she says "hurry up and eat your damn cereal and quit pretending to be THE MAN on the forum."

What a darling.

:rofl: :rofl:

"THE MAN". That should be your new license plate.

Or;

"NASCAR"
"MONO EXH"
"PLAYA"
"CHSG TOD"
"LIL JERY"
"I LUV DUG"
"FORD GT"
"LAT G MOD"
"PAYBACK 2"

fleetus macmullitz
09-22-2012, 11:13 AM
I am hurrying to eat my cereal and get ready to go play tennis with the wife and was on the laptop at the same time.... and she says "hurry up and eat your damn cereal and quit pretending to be THE MAN on the forum."

What a darling.

:rofl: :rofl:

Kinda ...

h-XgvHPt1cg

fleetus macmullitz
09-22-2012, 11:14 AM
I am hurrying to eat my cereal and get ready to go play tennis with the wife and was on the laptop at the same time.... and she says "hurry up and eat your damn cereal and quit pretending to be THE MAN on the forum."

What a darling.

:rofl: :rofl:

Kinda ...

h-XgvHPt1cg
'
huh?

:lol:

fleetus macmullitz
09-22-2012, 12:21 PM
"THE MAN". That should be your new license plate.

Or;

"NASCAR"
"MONO EXH"
"PLAYA"
"CHSG TOD"
"LIL JERY"
"I LUV DUG"
"FORD GT"
"LAT G MOD"
"PAYBACK 2"

:lol:

Dub.

Flash will appreciate your help in keeping this thread on its course when he returns from attempting to dominate his Do Jo with Mr. Pitt's racket.

GregWeld
09-22-2012, 12:32 PM
Well --- The good Doctor came up with some pretty good plates - but he skipped the correct one:


Whipped



:woot:


Frankly -- for those of you that haven't met Susan... so sorry - 'cause she's a keeper.

skatinjay27
09-22-2012, 12:56 PM
You could have Chad Knaus for a crew chief and Mario Andretti for a coach. If the dog won't hunt, it doesn't matter. :Dhaha!

thats what i was thinking, todds got me and doug for his team and youll still be toast when he starts his new Chevette racer!

Its gonna be themed with you in mind! its getting painted scion green with the "the judge" stripe package and some dodge viper factory take off wheels!:P

me = zip tie placement/installation specialist (sometimes i will slum it and confirm tire pressures also)

dub renner = t-shirt/sticker acquisitionist

DFRESH
09-22-2012, 08:16 PM
haha!

thats what i was thinking, todds got me and doug for his team and youll still be toast when he starts his new Chevette racer!

Its gonna be themed with you in mind! its getting painted scion green with the "the judge" stripe package and some dodge viper factory take off wheels!:P

me = zip tie placement/installation specialist (sometimes i will slum it and confirm tire pressures also)

dub renner = t-shirt/sticker acquisitionist

The Dream Team (It was either Stielow or Akes that year for AJ and I--it was a tough decision)

FETorino
09-22-2012, 08:29 PM
I am hurrying to eat my cereal and get ready to go play tennis with the wife and was on the laptop at the same time.... and she says "hurry up and eat your damn cereal and quit pretending to be THE MAN on the forum."

What a darling.

:rofl: :rofl:

And then a fight broke out.......

YxAPKtOe0fQ

Vegas69
09-22-2012, 09:41 PM
I think I fell on a bird or 2 previously with 2 decent legs. Wait til I get my 2 new carbon fiber prototype prosthetic legs. I'll show you some hunting.

Since you're an armchair / fantasy football GM now, what other wisdom ya got for me? :lol:



I would stop by if I ever get up that way soon. Would like to see the guts of that motor.



I'd say you need a minimum 10,000 psi. That won't damage your siding. :_paranoid

It's still up in the air who will have a functioning car first. :lol:

intocarss
09-22-2012, 10:57 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/georgeeatingpopcorn_zps33cf5025.gif

Flash68
09-24-2012, 12:17 PM
Qy1q9TbHpRQ

fleetus macmullitz
09-24-2012, 12:29 PM
"THE MAN". That should be your new license plate.

Or;

"NASCAR"
"MONO EXH"
"PLAYA"
"CHSG TOD"
"LIL JERY"
"I LUV DUG"
"FORD GT"
"LAT G MOD"
"PAYBACK 2"

Let's not forget ...

'BODY BAG'



:D

GregWeld
09-24-2012, 12:35 PM
Sadly...... you still only have a broken down Camaro.












:rofl:

fleetus macmullitz
09-24-2012, 12:48 PM
Sadly...... you still only have a broken down Camaro.












:rofl:

But..... he's now a fixer-up husband,



so...

pBWcRqPesws

tones2SS
09-24-2012, 05:06 PM
And then a fight broke out.......

YxAPKtOe0fQ

lol:D

intocarss
09-24-2012, 05:33 PM
Let's not forget ...

'BODY BAG'



:D or IBLUBYU,, UROWNED

Flash68
09-28-2012, 08:04 PM
We got some real updates here. But I am sure it will get derailed in about 4 minutes. :captain:

Got the AP brakes in my possession. Thanks to Mary P for dropping them off, and thanks James Shipka for the nice pedigree going on my car. :unibrow:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/ap.jpg

Watson took the pan and filter off and saw some metal in the filter so they wanna take it all apart and clean it really good and fix a couple nicks and things. They don't think anything big is wrong but don't wanna throw it up on their dyno without knowing what's what. I can appreciate that and agree. Best guess is a lifter broke previously and was just not cleaned out that well afterward.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo-24.jpg

some nicks in the crank and back of piston

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo2-7.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo3-7.jpg

Finalized front suspension details and the Billstein shocks and Hypercoil springs with Jake and that are on its way in the coming weeks. Going with his custom wider control arms for extended track width. Like on Shipka's OLC, we are aiming for a square track width or even slightly wider in front (.5 to 1").

GregWeld
09-28-2012, 08:16 PM
Nice!


:thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal
09-28-2012, 08:20 PM
Even w the issues, motor looks real good! I'll bet Watson has it put back together in no time :thumbsup:

fleetus macmullitz
09-28-2012, 08:26 PM
We got some real updates here. But I am sure it will get derailed in about 4 minutes. :captain:



"Keep a good thought." -Sgt. Arthur Dietrich

F1lJFlB-89Q

I promise to kinda try and be a non-laugher and only comment on the excellent tech you have provided free of charge...low these many years.

FETorino
09-28-2012, 08:35 PM
Hmm you didn't tell me you pulled a main cap, or two. :_paranoid I'm guessing the look of the bearing made Mike feel good about the build. That and the Callies cast into the arm of the crank.:D

Vegas69
09-28-2012, 08:52 PM
I don't like the look of the piston skirt in picture three. Have them tear it down and blueprint it.

Flash68
09-28-2012, 09:34 PM
Hmm you didn't tell me you pulled a main cap, or two. :_paranoid I'm guessing the look of the bearing made Mike feel good about the build. That and the Callies cast into the arm of the crank.:D

Exactly. He is a picky SOB and doesn't tolerate much for BS I have found, or even uncertainty. And while it costs more, I appreciate it.

I don't like the look of the piston skirt in picture three. Have them tear it down and blueprint it.

Yeah they mentioned that along with a lot of little things but nothing they felt were too bad or couldn't be fairly easily remedied.

End play was normal.
Needs a new Jesel belt.
The bearings looked pretty good.

Mike had to leave early for his 38th anniversary dinner or woulda pulled the VC's and inspected further. Next week.

DFRESH
09-28-2012, 10:04 PM
That blemish on the piston skirt---that's a problem. I'd get another motor.

Flash68
09-28-2012, 10:24 PM
That blemish on the piston skirt---that's a problem. I'd get another motor.

Like an LS3 with cobwebs all over it?

intocarss
09-28-2012, 11:42 PM
What brake set up is on your car now??

Flash68
09-29-2012, 12:02 AM
What brake set up is on your car now??

Had Wilwoods 13"/6 piston front and 12"/4 piston rear. Drilled and slotted. Sold them to a fellow Road Touring Customs customer building a 68.

67zo6Camaro
09-29-2012, 09:17 PM
some nicks in the crank and back of piston

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo2-7.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo3-7.jpg



that's like CSI work there. Did ya do the black bolb and dust test also?:lol:

Flash68
09-29-2012, 10:43 PM
that's like CSI work there. Did ya do the black bolb and dust test also?:lol:

Hey you're not supposed to shoot the messenger. :lol:

badmatt
09-30-2012, 08:43 AM
Hey you're not supposed to shoot the messenger. :lol:

I like your pistons....

Track Junky
09-30-2012, 10:52 PM
Glad to hear your moving forward again Dave. :thumbsup:

scottysimp7
10-01-2012, 05:58 PM
Congrats on the new motor. I wont even recognize this beast when its done! Excited to see what changes are to come. :thumbsup: Sweet brake set up by the way.

Flash68
10-02-2012, 10:17 AM
I like your pistons....

I bet you do, Panama Red. :lol:

Glad to hear your moving forward again Dave. :thumbsup:

:cheers:

Congrats on the new motor. I wont even recognize this beast when its done! Excited to see what changes are to come. :thumbsup: Sweet brake set up by the way.

Thanks RTC brother. Hopefully get this pile of parts back together so we can all convoy down to RTTC in March again. :lateral:

sik68
10-02-2012, 01:21 PM
Going with his custom wider control arms for extended track width. Like on Shipka's OLC, we are aiming for a square track width or even slightly wider in front (.5 to 1").

Motor schmoter, this makes my pants dance! :hail: :hail:

califconstruct
10-02-2012, 01:45 PM
Had Wilwoods 13"/6 piston front and 12"/4 piston rear. Drilled and slotted. Sold them to a fellow Road Touring Customs customer building a 68.


Yes, Thank you Dave.. now we gotta get them onto my car!..and that would be a 67' . :captain:


You got it rollin' now.. keep up the momentum!.. on that beastie motor!.

Sent that request today!..

Flash68
10-02-2012, 11:24 PM
Motor schmoter, this makes my pants dance! :hail: :hail:

Been wonderin where you have been. :woot:

Yes, Thank you Dave.. now we gotta get them onto my car!..and that would be a 67' . :captain:


You got it rollin' now.. keep up the momentum!.. on that beastie motor!.

Sent that request today!..

67! My bad! Oh the horror! :willy:

And mucho gracias. :cheers:

Flash68
10-03-2012, 10:36 AM
Speaking of Dick Trickle and Nascar (thanks Todd)....

For those remotely interested in Nascar based builds, here are 2 PHR articles that have inspired me and informed me along my way.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tech/1207phr_hinkle_performance_nascar_sourced_chevy_mo tor/viewall.html

And the evil twin sister (being a Ford makes it my sister) to my SB2.2 -- found in PHR's Project "Max Effort". Nearly identical (minus the water/meth injection) it is within 1 cubic inch and 5-10 horsepower of mine with a nearly identical powerband as well.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tech/1110phr_project_max_effort_438ci_ford_motor_build/viewall.html

Jims78elky
10-04-2012, 02:55 AM
Like an LS3 with cobwebs all over it?

Hey...I got one of those also..:rofl:

The wife asked me the other night at dinner what was in the big plastic bag that has dust all over it in the back of our garage...Oh I said something like a $8500.00 Visa card gone bad.

Dinner was a little better after the third full glass of wine...

-Jim

intocarss
10-05-2012, 06:48 PM
WELL:question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:

Sieg
10-05-2012, 08:41 PM
WELL:question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:
Give him time to finish the ironing.

:D

Flash68
10-05-2012, 10:21 PM
Hey...I got one of those also..:rofl:

The wife asked me the other night at dinner what was in the big plastic bag that has dust all over it in the back of our garage...Oh I said something like a $8500.00 Visa card gone bad.

Dinner was a little better after the third full glass of wine...

-Jim

:lol: You and Dr Fresh outta hang out.

WELL:question: :question: :question: :question: :question: :question:

Give him time to finish the ironing.

:D

I think the yard and house work is stabilized. Moving on to the car. :)

I have done a lot of research over the past year on fire suppression systems and finally landed on one. I chose this one for the following reasons:

more nozzles (6) than most (2-4 on average)
2 pull cables (many have just 1)
non toxic
cleans up easily with water (supposedly)
SCCA and FIA approved (standard equipment on Ferrari Challenge cars)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0003.jpg

FETorino
10-05-2012, 10:31 PM
Looks like a smart purchase. I think I'll follow your lead on this one. :D

89 RS
10-05-2012, 10:36 PM
Dave, glad to hear things are settling down now. A fire suppression system, you're not messin' around man. Incidentally, I heard Soundgarden's new song tonight, have you heard it?

Flash68
10-05-2012, 10:46 PM
Looks like a smart purchase. I think I'll follow your lead on this one. :D

Yeah buddy! :thumbsup:

Dave, glad to hear things are settling down now. A fire suppression system, you're not messin' around man. Incidentally, I heard Soundgarden's new song tonight, have you heard it?

Thanks dude. I have been in a car that caught fire (luckily at low speed on the street) and it was not fun. This is a small price to pay in the grand scheme for added safety.

I have the new album pre-ordered and it comes mid November. Have not heard the new song yet. I will have to check it out.

I'm just stoked someone wants to talk about Soundgarden! :D :cheers:

badmatt
10-06-2012, 01:19 AM
Looks like a smart purchase. I think I'll follow your lead on this one. :D

me as well.

intocarss
10-06-2012, 06:11 AM
Smart move Dave :thumbsup: I went with the economy version

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/MIS0002.jpg

GregWeld
10-06-2012, 07:14 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well crap ..... now I'm going to have to upgrade!

Sieg
10-06-2012, 07:46 AM
You won't get any arguments from me regarding the validity of a fire suppression system. http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Camaro/i-2DZb3DD/1/M/IMAG2664-M.jpg

Where did you get your system?

Glad you're getting your home maintenance routines stabilized. :thumbsup:

FETorino
10-06-2012, 08:35 AM
You won't get any arguments from me regarding the validity of a fire suppression system. http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Camaro/i-2DZb3DD/1/M/IMAG2664-M.jpg

Where did you get your system?

:

Yea DG post the link :D

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=9730

Sieg
10-06-2012, 09:01 AM
Thanks Rob. The two HR3 2.5 lb. HalGuard hand-helds I'm considering are $260.

Dave where do you plan to mount the bottle, nozzles and triggers with this system?

FETorino
10-06-2012, 09:22 AM
Dave where do you plan to mount the bottle, nozzles and triggers with this system?

I think he is planning on the bottle in the pantry and the majority of the nozzles over the center island.

Sieg
10-06-2012, 09:33 AM
I think he is planning on the bottle in the pantry and the majority of the nozzles over the center island.Good point, by now he probably doesn't need them over the bed.

Flash68
10-06-2012, 09:37 AM
:lol:

Bottle in the rear seat area behind passenger. Thinking 1 in the trunk over cell, and either 3 in engine bay and 2 in driver compartment or vice versa.

Pegasus is a nice source for stuff.

Sieg
10-06-2012, 12:07 PM
:D Thanks for the info. :thumbsup:

My little fuel ball incident had me wondering what and how could the firewall be breeched. Fuel, oil, engine drivetrain grenade, etc.

At speed airflow will force liquid and flame toward the firewall.

If the wall is breeched footwell nozzels wouldn't be a bad idea IMO. Would the potential mess created in the interior compartment make you think twice about discharging the system?

Is one enough to cover the fuel cell?

What scenerio's would compromise the fuel cell, rear end/brake failure, fuel line/pump, major impact??

Having a bottle system and a good hand-held for minor incidents has merrit.

Very interested in hearing the fire suppression options and reasons.

skatinjay27
10-06-2012, 01:00 PM
I'm just stoked someone wants to talk about Soundgarden! :D :cheers:

i dont... so lets not!:D

David Pozzi
10-06-2012, 04:16 PM
:D Thanks for the info. :thumbsup:

My little fuel ball incident had me wondering what and how could the firewall be breeched. Fuel, oil, engine drivetrain grenade, etc.

At speed airflow will force liquid and flame toward the firewall.

If the wall is breeched footwell nozzels wouldn't be a bad idea IMO. Would the potential mess created in the interior compartment make you think twice about discharging the system?

Is one enough to cover the fuel cell?

What scenerio's would compromise the fuel cell, rear end/brake failure, fuel line/pump, major impact??

Having a bottle system and a good hand-held for minor incidents has merrit.

Very interested in hearing the fire suppression options and reasons.

You want steel between you and any fire. Aluminum
Sheet patches in the firewall will melt around 1100 degrees, steel at 2300 degrees.

Flash68
10-06-2012, 04:42 PM
If the wall is breeched footwell nozzels wouldn't be a bad idea IMO. Would the potential mess created in the interior compartment make you think twice about discharging the system?

Is one enough to cover the fuel cell?

What scenerio's would compromise the fuel cell, rear end/brake failure, fuel line/pump, major impact??

Having a bottle system and a good hand-held for minor incidents has merrit.

Very interested in hearing the fire suppression options and reasons.

All thoughts I have been going through over the past year.

Many systems just cover driver and engine. My cell has a 20 gauge steel container and my car has an aluminum (not sure of gauge) rear firewall.

Major rear impact or a rollover would be my biggest fear.

Still will have my 2.5 lb hand held behind my shifter.


You want steel between you and any fire. Aluminum
Sheet patches in the firewall will melt around 1100 degrees, steel at 2300 degrees.

And these fires reach what temp?

GregWeld
10-06-2012, 05:00 PM
You need to put a fire out at it's SOURCE.... so where the fuel is...

That can be oil on a header if you're unfortunate to be up-side-down.... or fuel spilling out of the tank... from a breach... or a busted fuel line.

Or --- Give yourself enough time to wake your sorry ass up and get out of there!


I worked 3 years at Portland International Raceway (drags) and I've seen fires in all kinds of places.... and every time --- people would waste an extinguisher pointing at the flames -- when the source was under the car etc...


I'd be spraying an "automatic" system in the engine compartment -- and a couple in the driver area to give an exit... or give yourself enough cover time til the crews get there.

Flash68
10-06-2012, 05:41 PM
^^ Absolutely. That's why I wanted maximum nozzles and 2 pull cables. Wanna hit every possible area.

1 pull cable for both the driver and a passenger and on or near the A pillars so a track worker or someone could pull it too.

And I'd think fires are under the hood so that's why I was thinking 3 nozzles there -- 1 over each header and maybe one to the carb/intake.

badmatt
10-06-2012, 05:55 PM
for petrol based fuels: the highest expected consistent temperature should be somewhere around 900C (about 1650F) with fluctuations measured of up to 1250C (about 2280F). (out of one of my textbooks)

NHRA:9.3 ( I know, I know NHRA)

Nozzle placement is extremely important; two nozzles are placed at the front of the engine, one on each side, and one nozzle is located in the driver compartment near the steering column, minimum.

a decent starting guideline though.

Matt

Sieg
10-06-2012, 06:14 PM
FWIW - In my situation a somewhat major fuel system leak ignited and lead to a pressurized oil leak that was sucked down the bell/trans tunnel.

I was going 60 mph max, at 120 with more fuel and oil it could have been interesting.

Flash68
10-06-2012, 07:15 PM
for petrol based fuels: the highest expected consistent temperature should be somewhere around 900C (about 1650F) with fluctuations measured of up to 1250C (about 2280F). (out of one of my textbooks)

NHRA:9.3 ( I know, I know NHRA)

Nozzle placement is extremely important; two nozzles are placed at the front of the engine, one on each side, and one nozzle is located in the driver compartment near the steering column, minimum.

a decent starting guideline though.

Matt

Good stuff Matt. Yep, another key is to not aim the driver nozzles too high toward your eyes or face (waist and below I've read).

FWIW - In my situation a somewhat major fuel system leak ignited and lead to a pressurized oil leak that was sucked down the bell/trans tunnel.

I was going 60 mph max, at 120 with more fuel and oil it could have been interesting.

That is def scary. I was only going about 30 or so when my engine fire started.

Sieg
10-06-2012, 07:30 PM
That is def scary. I was only going about 30 or so when my engine fire started.
Wasn't that bad, but a major engine grenade and oil fire could be without proper preparation. Especially if you're unconscious and the safety workers are slow to respond. Factoring the scenerio's and precautionary measures is interesting and challenging.

F1 in the 60's :wow:

GregWeld
10-06-2012, 11:12 PM
I love techin' at stuff like OUSCI.... only because the rules are so basic... and I keep thinking... 'cause I've seen it... that having a fire extinguisher 'on board' is just so friggin useless in 9 out of 10 cases.

Nobody knows where it is - the driver can't get out - unclip it - and he's freaking out about his car on fire... It's like UGH... The friggin' thing is mounted BEHIND the drive so you can't reach in from outside the car and get it and start fighting fire with it...

Ya need this stuff when you've wrecked -- and you're "in shock" -- and all of a sudden a friggin' fire has broken out!

This is one of those "rules" that says -- it's better to have it and not need it, than it is to need it and not have it.

The track stuff Charley and I have been doing - they make us wear proper clothing... gloves... helmets... shoes...

At the speeds we're going - most of the guys have fire suits - driving shoes - fireproof gloves... real helmets etc. ROLL BARS/CAGES.... Just sayin'. :cheers:

Flash68
10-07-2012, 11:44 AM
The track stuff Charley and I have been doing - they make us wear proper clothing... gloves... helmets... shoes...

At the speeds we're going - most of the guys have fire suits - driving shoes - fireproof gloves... real helmets etc. ROLL BARS/CAGES.... Just sayin'. :cheers:

Yep. I have not been required anywhere to have most of this stuff but I am getting it and will be using it because it is the safer and smarter thing to do.

Just because ASCS says you don't need it (or sometimes do say you need it but then don't actually require it when you arrive) doesn't mean it's not a good idea.

Think about these things and make the best informed decision for yourself and your application.

intocarss
10-07-2012, 11:54 AM
Yep. I have not been required anywhere to have most of this stuff but I am getting it and will be using it because it is the safer and smarter thing to do.

Just because ASCS says you don't need it (or sometimes do say you need it but then don't actually require it when you arrive) doesn't mean it's not a good idea.

Think about these things and make the best informed decision for yourself and your application.

Glad you think that way! Fire don't care where, when or what it burns

Now lets talk "head and neck restraints"

fleetus macmullitz
10-07-2012, 04:11 PM
Glad you and others are installing fire suppression systems...and posting about it. :thumbsup:

CrossRamRich
10-09-2012, 10:57 PM
After seeing Dave do a buck forty, I have been pushing the safety factor. We are making it a priority.:yes:

Vince@Meanstreets
10-09-2012, 11:10 PM
After seeing Dave do a buck forty, I have been pushing the safety factor. We are making it a priority.:yes:

yep, its all fun and games till someone gets fct....and you know as well as I that it doesn't take much speed to do so, 'specially with mulitiple cars around you.

GregWeld
10-10-2012, 06:50 AM
Glad you think that way! Fire don't care where, when or what it burns

Now lets talk "head and neck restraints"




After running Sonoma -- and having two MAJOR wrecks in my run group - a HANS device is something I've been thinking about adding. My helmet already has the connectors installed.

At Thunderhill it would be hard to get into a "sudden deceleration" event (hitting a wall)... but Sonoma is concrete walls and some blind corners where you could get into trouble with coolant on track or a spin out etc...

After seeing how much damage was done to the two cars coming off turn 6 @ Sonoma gets you thinking about this kind of stuff.... The brand new Shelby GT500 was smashed front and back. :faint:

intocarss
10-10-2012, 07:49 AM
After running Sonoma -- and having two MAJOR wrecks in my run group - a HANS device is something I've been thinking about adding. My helmet already has the connectors installed.

At Thunderhill it would be hard to get into a "sudden deceleration" event (hitting a wall)... but Sonoma is concrete walls and some blind corners where you could get into trouble with coolant on track or a spin out etc...

After seeing how much damage was done to the two cars coming off turn 6 @ Sonoma gets you thinking about this kind of stuff.... The brand new Shelby GT500 was smashed front and back. :faint: It may not be a wall... It could be a spun car sitting on the track!! I can think of a 1000 good reasons to wear a head and neck restraint... Give me one valid reason NOT to wear one, You can't can you..... NOW GO GET A HEAD AND NECK RESTRAINT SYSTEM :thumbsup: :cheers:

fleetus macmullitz
10-10-2012, 08:06 AM
It may not be a wall... It could be a spun car sitting on the track!! I can think of a 1000 good reasons to wear a head and neck restraint... Give me one valid reason NOT to wear one, You can't can you..... NOW GO GET A HEAD AND NECK RESTRAINT SYSTEM :thumbsup: :cheers:

Agreed, if not for yourself, do it for Lily.

fleetus macmullitz
10-11-2012, 05:06 PM
If it wasn't for the Jerdawg bringing up HANS, very likely I wouldn't have paid any attention to what was on ESPN today on this subject.

It was an extended feature on Dale Jr. and what he is going through health wise due to the concussions. They also had in car video of the forces he encountered/what was going on with his head during the huge pile-up last weekend.

Not pretty.

Flash68
10-11-2012, 09:59 PM
HANS is definitely on the "look into" list.... if this was a dedicated track car doing things every weekend I think that would seal it. But I plan to autoX and street drive as much as I can as well. We shall see.

Got a bucket load of parts from North Carolina coming in next week... can't wait.

FETorino
10-11-2012, 10:08 PM
Got a bucket load of parts from North Carolina coming in next week... can't wait.

Towel racks? :_paranoid

intocarss
10-11-2012, 10:40 PM
HANS is definitely on the "look into" list.... if this was a dedicated track car doing things every weekend I think that would seal it. But I plan to autoX and street drive as much as I can as well. We shall see.

Got a bucket load of parts from North Carolina coming in next week... can't wait. All it takes is one time buddy and you're done ;)... It was hard for me to justify spending $700+ on something that won't make me go faster or win more. BUT I/you can't go fast or win if we're dead or paralyzed (knock on wood) :mad: Now come up with another stupid excuse

Towel racks? :_paranoid You made me spit up :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Flash68
10-11-2012, 11:17 PM
Towel racks? :_paranoid

No, I am quite certain there's a Bed Bath n Beyond in my area. :willy:

All it takes is one time buddy and you're done ;)

Can't argue with that. We'll see. :)

Sieg
10-11-2012, 11:58 PM
All it takes is one time buddy and you're done ;)... It was hard for me to justify spending $700+ on something that won't make me go faster or win more. BUT I/you can't go fast or win if we're dead or paralyzed (knock on wood) :mad: Now come up with another stupid excuse

I wear this on the dirt bike:

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Off-Road/21223f84cbfa94f9bc2o/291849519_zNy2x-M.jpg

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Other/Off-Road/IMGP3809/291840841_2aTAA-M-1.jpg

It's the first gen Leatt mostly carbon composite and carbon fiber. It was $599 about 5 years ago. It took about 3 rides to get it adjusted properly and adapt to it, now I don't even notice it. There's been two incidents that I'm very glad I had it. If they don't save your life or paralysis they save you the pain of serious neck strain in an incident. :thumbsup:

sds machining
10-12-2012, 12:46 AM
[QUOTE=intocarss;440682]All it takes is one time buddy and you're done

I can confim this...11 years ago September I broke my back racing motocross. Spent 2 years in a wheelchair. I am one of the very very fortunate cases that regained some mobility and currently can get by with the assistance of a cane and the use of leg braces on both feet that allow me to walk short distances. I will never regain the use of my legs or feet from the knees down. So any and all safty precautions are worth the money.

intocarss
10-12-2012, 05:42 PM
Can't argue with that. We'll see. :) So get one.

I wear this on the dirt bike:


It's the first gen Leatt mostly carbon composite and carbon fiber. It was $599 about 5 years ago. It took about 3 rides to get it adjusted properly and adapt to it, now I don't even notice it. There's been two incidents that I'm very glad I had it. If they don't save your life or paralysis they save you the pain of serious neck strain in an incident. :thumbsup:

Glad to hear it !! :thumbsup:



[QUOTE=sds machining;440690]All it takes is one time buddy and you're done

I can confim this...11 years ago September I broke my back racing motocross. Spent 2 years in a wheelchair. I am one of the very very fortunate cases that regained some mobility and currently can get by with the assistance of a cane and the use of leg braces on both feet that allow me to walk short distances. I will never regain the use of my legs or feet from the knees down. So any and all safty precautions are worth the money. Damn, sorry to hear you got hurt

intocarss
10-12-2012, 05:43 PM
If it wasn't for the Jerdawg bringing up HANS, very likely I wouldn't have paid any attention to what was on ESPN today on this subject.

It was an extended feature on Dale Jr. and what he is going through health wise due to the concussions. They also had in car video of the forces he encountered/what was going on with his head during the huge pile-up last weekend.

Not pretty.

Crazy what goes on inside of a race car during a crash

Flash68
10-23-2012, 10:08 PM
It was a nice UPS day. 4 big boxes of goodies. :woot:

If Rob's 4 stages are good, 2 more have to be better. :lol:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0014.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0023.jpg

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http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0046.jpg

intocarss
10-23-2012, 10:11 PM
That pan is a work of art.

FETorino
10-23-2012, 10:14 PM
Complete with fancy Wiggins fittings.:hail:

Flash68
10-23-2012, 10:18 PM
I thought I was getting a nice package of stuff, but all this stuff appears to be in GREAT used condition. Even better than I hoped. Another guy who was selling that exact same pan (it's a Hendricks pan) was asking the same price I got ALL this stuff for. Supposedly it's $8k new. :wow:

momsnova
10-24-2012, 04:22 AM
What an awesome oiling system! Love the stealth cover for the pan, would be a shame to hide it. :thumbsup: Is that a Dailey pan or an in house Hendrix?

Payton King
10-24-2012, 06:10 AM
Amost makes me want to do an SB2 or 18 degree motor

GregWeld
10-24-2012, 06:51 AM
Man oh man.... this is going to be the explosion heard 'round the world!!



EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA



:thumbsup:

intocarss
10-24-2012, 07:18 AM
Man oh man.... this is going to be the rumble heard 'round the world!!



EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA



:thumbsup: Fixed it for you. DUDE don't use the word "explosion" when discusing engines ;) Now go knock on wood :woot:

Sieg
10-24-2012, 09:23 AM
Great looking components Dave! :thumbsup:

Nessumsar
10-24-2012, 10:13 AM
:brix:

Now get it together!

Flash68
10-24-2012, 10:30 AM
What an awesome oiling system! Love the stealth cover for the pan, would be a shame to hide it. :thumbsup: Is that a Dailey pan or an in house Hendrix?

Thanks. I love it. And I hear ya. Hide it (protect it) or show it off. Tough call. It is under the car I guess and not really seen once on.

Hendricks pan and a Weiss pump. I am having them run the serial number and they will give me the history on it. I may send it in and have them inspect and refreshen it. Their price is pretty reasonable to do it if necessary.

I'd like to hear more about your T101 502 Nova! :thumbsup:

Amost makes me want to do an SB2 or 18 degree motor

This ain't enough to convert ya? :unibrow:

Man oh man.... this is going to be the explosion heard 'round the world!!



EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA



:thumbsup:

Fixed it for you. DUDE don't use the word "explosion" when discusing engines ;) Now go knock on wood :woot:

Yes, what Jer said! :willy:

Great looking components Dave! :thumbsup:

:brix:

Now get it together!

:thumbsup: I am working on it!

califconstruct
10-24-2012, 11:13 AM
Damn! That's some nice parts right there! Quite the bling! :drool:

Flash68
10-24-2012, 11:38 AM
Damn! That's some nice parts right there! Quite the bling! :drool:

No bling here. Only billet on this car is for strength and function - not show. :D

It sure does look nice though. Will be a shame to cover it up (protect it) with that aluminum cover but oh well.

geberhard
10-24-2012, 11:41 AM
wow shiney shiney!!

fleetus macmullitz
10-24-2012, 12:35 PM
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_0014.jpg



:cool: :thumbsup:

5ov37eJcuZE

sik68
10-24-2012, 01:03 PM
WOWZA :faint: That's some serious bidness right there DG!

Vegas69
10-24-2012, 02:35 PM
I've said this isn't Nascar but maybe I was wrong. :unibrow: Looks great man.:thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal
10-24-2012, 02:50 PM
:thumbsup: I am working on it!

Huh? What!?!? :D

badmatt
10-24-2012, 03:17 PM
OWWW LAWDY sweet baby jesus. :hail:

After seeing this I want to toss my stuff out and start fresh!

Looks great DG.

Matt

Matt@BOS
10-24-2012, 03:56 PM
Those are some nice looking parts. I will let my opinion on the red and blue fittings slide since this is a race car. :thumbsup:

Flash68
10-24-2012, 04:32 PM
I've said this isn't Nascar but maybe I was wrong. :unibrow: Looks great man.:thumbsup:

I will be having my mod status revoked and kicked off this forum soon I suspect.

Huh? What!?!? :D

Wait... what?

OWWW LAWDY sweet baby jesus. :hail:

After seeing this I want to toss my stuff out and start fresh!

Looks great DG.

Matt

Maybe you should flip yours and call my parts guy. :thumbsup:

Those are some nice looking parts. I will let my opinion on the red and blue fittings slide since this is a race car. :thumbsup:

I made a concerted effort a long time ago to not do the expected black and color matched fittings, etc. on this one. I did that on my last car. :)

Hey don't forget the purple Wiggins fittings too. :D

Matt@BOS
10-24-2012, 04:41 PM
Hey don't forget the purple Wiggins fittings too. :D

Naturally, I will give the purple ones a pass.