1968 Camaro "Badmotorfinger" v2.2

[intocarss]

Agreed, but hell you can say that about a lot of things really. As a matter of priority, and the fact that many of us aren't "overpowering" our driveshafts, I'm not sure it's a HIGH priority, that's all I'm saying. I ain't dropping the clutch at 4000 rpm with sticky tires, and that's what usually kills driveshafts and drivelines parts.

I don't know the last time I read about a twisted DS on the PT forums... On Yellowbullet or LS1tech? Yeah, plenty.



Haha thanks David. I'm sure we will be looking to get rid of at least one of the Muncies here at some point. :thumbsup:



Listen to THAT guy? No way! :lol:

Agreed, and I'm really just adding little things for now .... and it's fun to add little things here and there.. One big thing left (hopefully at some point) is to add a full frame. Working on that plan but I like trying to compete with my stock sub and leafs for now.

But all that stuff is moot unless you are working on your driving and practicing to get better and learn your car. :cheers: You're heading in the rt direction.. Seat time seat time seat time!! Do you hang out on Yellowbullet much? That's my home away from home LOL

[Flash68]

Looks awesome Dave. Enjoy!!! :cheers:

Thanks!

Oh great.

Next thing you know you'll be thinkin its ok to run 18" wheels!


:lol:

You're right. It is absolutely not okay! :D

You're heading in the rt direction.. Seat time seat time seat time!! Do you hang out on Yellowbullet much? That's my home away from home LOL

From time to time yes, and often looking there for parts or to learn more about a detailed subject.

Just picked up a Holley 830HP there for a good price! :thumbsup:

[89 RS]

[QUOTE=Vegas69;369249]Disagree with that logic. Once you start pushing factory capacities and racing, it's time for a matching driveshaft that is engineered to take the abuse intended. A driveshaft failure ain't pretty.:D

I can see both points. :cheers:

[GregWeld]

From the rpms I've heard this machine doing... a stock DS is no match! :D Don't forget that all DS are rated in RPMS and have maximums that should be adhered to.

[thenate125]

Nice car!

[Flash68]

From the rpms I've heard this machine doing... a stock DS is no match! :D Don't forget that all DS are rated in RPMS and have maximums that should be adhered to.

You are right Greg, and I thought of that point after I had posted. Ft/lb ratings are the thing I usually see them rated to though for all those drag strippers.

I'll consider myself fortunate to have lasted this long with my stocker. :thumbsup:

Nice car!

Gracias!

[CrossRamRich]

We are up! Minor details then " Back in the game"! Race car now, with licence plates.:D More beer!...:cheers:

[scottysimp7]

Nice! Im stoked for you guys. Hope all goes well this upcoming weekend, and the car runs smooth. Richie hopefully you wont be working; just drinkin! :thumbsup:

[1965_SS]

Looks and sounds awesome:thumbsup:
I would dent that header and get it off your oil pan. That is transferring some serious heat into that oil pan.

[Chad-1stGen]

Wish I could see this bad boy run this weekend!

Since I wasn't gonna make it with my car I'm spendin time with my Bro and Dad at the Reno Air Races.

Kick some but out there!

[CrossRamRich]

"Come on Mav, let's see some of that pilot ****"!:unibrow:

[Flash68]

Well it's been awhile since I posted here. Was dealing with some annoying health issues, but all should be good again, and I can say a day of cruising and throttling this car :_paranoid was exactly the medicine I really needed. :thumbsup:

Of course, I really should just ask the mods to delete this thread since I just saw thread updates of the likes of Blu Ballz, War, and Payback this weekend. I am definitely not worthy. :D

Went out and put some of the first miles on my dog ring trans and boy was it more fun than I even anticipated. And whomever says you can't or shouldn't drive these things on the street, they must prefer Turbo 400's with a 4000 stall converter! :willy: This thing howls and clunks but just goes right into gear so precisely, but you gotta shift it like you mean it, which I don't have any qualms about..... well, ask me again in a few months. :D

ku-TX-2xeqo

Finally drove over to the truck scales and was hoping for a little lighter, but with all my cage bars, I came in at 3300 lbs even. 53% front/47% rear.

Pics of the almost finished interior with removable tunnel cover for trans access
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF3815.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF3825.jpg

A couple rear seat delete shots

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF3821.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF3820.jpg

And finally the obligatory new tire pics

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF3812.jpg

Just a short to-do list before the next track day at Laguna Seca on Dec 31st... can't wait.

[Track Junky]

Sounds and looks great Dave!! I think its time I start cleaning up my interior. Funny what carpet and a dash pad will do for a car.:D

BTW, who did your carpet?

[Bryce]

good to hear that the helath issues are sorted!

That transmission looks like it works great. motor sounds okay. HAHA

WHat tires are those? they almost look like a new version of the falken 615?

[fleetus macmullitz]

A few impressions watching the vid...it seems the car overall has got a nice tight quality to it. Trans obviously adds to the race feel BMF already has, and it seems well matched to the motor.

You may soon be personally responsible for a jump in sales for those dawg boys. ;)

[Ron in SoCal]

Very cool Dave. Shift that dog box like you mean it! Haha, no more heel toe mix ups...:lol:

Interior came out perfect :thumbsup:

[intocarss]

Your car's more fun then a strip club

[Vegas69]

Nice! How's the overdrive? :rofl:

[Flash68]

Sounds and looks great Dave!! I think its time I start cleaning up my interior. Funny what carpet and a dash pad will do for a car.:D

BTW, who did your carpet?

Hey not a bad idea. I didn't realize you didn't have an interior til I saw your track video. Ha.

A guy named Rigo did the carpet. He did Mary P's interior as well. Down in San Martin if you are interested. Does nice work.

good to hear that the helath issues are sorted!

That transmission looks like it works great. motor sounds okay. HAHA

WHat tires are those? they almost look like a new version of the falken 615?

Thanks Bryce. Trans finally matches the motor I think. Ha.

Those are just NT-01's. 255 front and 315 rear.

A few impressions watching the vid...it seems the car overall has got a nice tight quality to it. Trans obviously adds to the race feel BMF already has, and it seems well matched to the motor.

You may soon be personally responsible for a jump in sales for those dawg boys. ;)

It does seem tighter actually, and lighter and more "free" if that makes sense. Lighter clutch, aluminum driveshaft, and more dead weight removed. We'll see how it feels on the track. The street as we all know is no place for sustained power blasts or any real practice.

If you drive your PT car cross-country (and let's be honest, 98% do not) then probably not a good idea for dog box, but if you drive occasionally or shorter trips, I don't see why it cannot work out fine.

Very cool Dave. Shift that dog box like you mean it! Haha, no more heel toe mix ups...:lol:

Interior came out perfect :thumbsup:

Hell, I never even tried to hell-toe before, that was the issue. :lol:

Interior is nice and tidy and goes with the theme I think. Thanks :thumbsup:

Your car's more fun then a strip club

I happen to really like that quote. Thanks :D

Nice! How's the overdrive? :rofl:

Great! 4th gear at 3500 rpm is right in the cruising sweet spot for this setup. :unibrow: :D

[tones2SS]

Looks great Dave. She sounds good too.:yes:

[DFRESH]

Nice! How's the overdrive? :rofl:

LOL--

Only you.

DFRESH

[DFRESH]

Sounds awesome Dave--I love the howl/whine it makes--that's like having a Pete Jackson Noisy in your trans--unless that was Rich with 6 pds of tri-tip and two cases of BL in the deleted rear section of the car--both sound similar from what I remember. Very cool.

BGWANDA

[Flash68]

Looks great Dave. She sounds good too.:yes:

Thanks Tone!


Sounds awesome Dave--I love the howl/whine it makes--that's like having a Pete Jackson Noisy in your trans--unless that was Rich with 6 pds of tri-tip and two cases of BL in the deleted rear section of the car--both sound similar from what I remember. Very cool.

BGWANDA

Haha... the ole Pete Jackson deal... good call actually. Hey good to see you spending some QT on Lat G again.

Yep, Rich was actually sitting in the back seat leaning against the rear firewall -- that's his new spot -- kinda like Hightower from Police Academy.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/hightower.jpg

:D

[89 RS]

Yep, Rich was actually sitting in the back seat leaning against the rear firewall -- that's his new spot -- kinda like Hightower from Police Academy.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/hightower.jpg

:D

Lol..."on a second thought, we'll just rip out the front seats".

Glad your health seems to be better Dave, glad to see you posting about your car again. That thing sounds wicked, crapload of fun though. The interior looks good also.

[Flash68]

Lol..."on a second thought, we'll just rip out the front seats".

Glad your health seems to be better Dave, glad to see you posting about your car again. That thing sounds wicked, crapload of fun though. The interior looks good also.

Thank you, Corey. I appreciate the words. :thumbsup:

[mdprovee]

Glad to see you are up and running again.

[GregWeld]

Since we had lunch in some Basque joint in South San Francisco.... he's been improving steadily!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......


Get back over there and check on my roadster! Reminds me of Farris Buellers day off.... in the front of the parking lot and flying out the back...

[Flash68]

Thanks guys..

Greg, I'll run down there and say "Didn't Greg call you? I'm supposed to take this out and see what else I can get to break on it before it leaves this shop." :thumbsup:

[CrossRamRich]

Nice to shake off some "cobwebs" eh Dave? She runs good.:cheers:

[Flash68]

Yeah it was great to get out there and throw her around the peanut. :D

I gotta admit, the peanut autoX at Goodguys is a lot more fun than I thought it would be after really loving full road course tracks. Glad I went. I even got my GF to ride along once.... which turned into every time after that since she enjoyed it so much.

Notice the magenta shoes and the legs crossed... such a lady. :lol:

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I also got a nice surprise in the mail yesterday from DSE and Wilwood.... contingency money to the tune of $515 for my RTTC performance this year. Even though we are all amateurs here it felt really good to actually get paid to run my car -- at least that's how I framed it for the previously mentioned GF. :D :thumbsup:

[Spiffav8]

Awesome! :D

[coolwelder62]

Very cool.Congrat's on the big check in the mail.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

The little 1st gear tracks are alot more fun than they look like.

[chr2002ca]

[QUOTE=Flash68;378903]...I even got my GF to ride along once.... which turned into every time after that since he enjoyed it so much..../QUOTE]

"He enjoyed it so much"? Is there something you want to tell us about about your 'GF'? Those pink shoes and small feet really had me fooled. :lol:

All jokes aside, cool vid! Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup: I look forward to hopefully catching up with you at El Toro in a few months. :cheers:

[skatinjay27]

seriously dave ^^^^^ you make it to easy!:P

[Flash68]

[QUOTE=Flash68;378903]...I even got my GF to ride along once.... which turned into every time after that since he enjoyed it so much..../QUOTE]

"He enjoyed it so much"? Is there something you want to tell us about about your 'GF'? Those pink shoes and small feet really had me fooled. :lol:

All jokes aside, cool vid! Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup: I look forward to hopefully catching up with you at El Toro in a few months. :cheers:

HAHA Chris you focker! :lol: Man I set myself for that one... so bad! :lol: :lol:

Good to hear from ya dude... lookin forward to March as well! :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

"The reaction to Mr. Gordon's post was understandably strong and swift from the founder of the Man Card Club ... H. D. Bogart."

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/Bogartconescopeta.jpg

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



He'll need a magnifying glass for a sight!

[torino420]

Awesome Dave, I hope to get out and try that one of these days.

[Ron in SoCal]

Surprised you weren't wearing driving gloves with your long sleevs and bball shorts there, Dave...:lol:

[Track Junky]

Nice foot work Dave but when are you going to lose that steering wheel? :P

[Flash68]

"The reaction to Mr. Gordon's post was understandably strong and swift from the founder of the Man Card Club ... H. D. Bogart."



:lol: You had to bust out some Bogart. :D

Surprised you weren't wearing driving gloves with your long sleevs and bball shorts there, Dave...:lol:

Maybe I took them off just for the one video I would post. :D

Nice foot work Dave but when are you going to lose that steering wheel? :P

Is that a Mary P reference? It really would work better for autoX if it was bigger but I love it on the road course. :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

Is that a Mary P reference? It really would work better for autoX if it was bigger but I love it on the road course. :thumbsup:

Partially Mary P but definitley not digging the wheel.

[Flash68]

Partially Mary P but definitley not digging the wheel.

Ok, well since I got to opine on your wheel choices, what don't you like about my steering wheel? Size? Style?

What would you prefer to see, or recommend? :captain:

[tones2SS]

Looks like fun Dave.
Awesome!

[Track Junky]

Ok, well since I got to opine on your wheel choices, what don't you like about my steering wheel? Size? Style?

What would you prefer to see, or recommend? :captain:http://assets0.saferacer.com/images/O/015R345MLN_1_orig.jpg
How about the Sparco 345 in Black Leather?

[Flash68]

I actually just looked at that one. Looks good. But I prefer suede I think, and I plan getting new seats with the suede inserts so that would go well.

What about this guy?

http://www.sparcousa.com/psteering_comp.asp?id=766

[GregWeld]

Given the RPM's and his HE/SHE.... I think this is more appropriate!


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/ShipsWheel_BP_SW11196181556_std.jpg

[Track Junky]

I actually just looked at that one. Looks good. But I prefer suede I think, and I plan getting new seats with the suede inserts so that would go well.

What about this guy?

http://www.sparcousa.com/psteering_comp.asp?id=766

Little pricey but I likey :thumbsup:

Given the RPM's and his HE/SHE.... I think this is more appropriate!


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/ShipsWheel_BP_SW11196181556_std.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Dude, you crack me up!!

[Flash68]

Man I gotta proof read my posts in the future. :D

[CrossRamRich]

RTTC comin up. We are comin after a black Camaro with a big block 427. You ready?:yes:

[Vegas69]

Get in line and good luck. :D Oh ya, it's a 489. I haven't seen my car in about 2 months but I'll be ready to shake and bake.

[chr2002ca]

RTTC comin up. We are comin after a black Camaro with a big block 427. You ready?:yes:

I'm comin after that black Camaro too, and Dave's camaro too, and all you mofo's and your tough-guy cars. Hell yah, you'll see me chasing you guys down......with my friggin camera. :rolleyes:

My car will have to wait a year as it's in a state of change and has some major components missing. But I'll be out there for the sites and sounds and a little motivation though. Look forward to seeing you all battle it out and share a few laughs and stories. :cheers:

[Flash68]

RTTC comin up. We are comin after a black Camaro with a big block 427. You ready?:yes:

A black big block Camaro? Nah, we don't pick the low hanging fruit.. :D

I'm comin after that black Camaro too, and Dave's camaro too, and all you mofo's and your tough-guy cars. Hell yah, you'll see me chasing you guys down......with my friggin camera. :rolleyes:

My car will have to wait a year as it's in a state of change and has some major components missing. But I'll be out there for the sites and sounds and a little motivation though. Look forward to seeing you all battle it out and share a few laughs and stories. :cheers:

Chris! Lookin fwd to seein ya bro -- get that car up and gunning for RTTC3.5 up in Norcal! :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Was supposed to be at Big Willow today but wasn't feeling well this past week so I shelved it. So I am stuck at home on Lateral G this weekend. :D Might as well post some updates I thought...

Safety has been a big focus for me in 2012 as this car gets more serious, and I scored a great deal on a Fuel Safe cell complete with bladder off the NASA forum for $350 (same part # now is $1150 new). And it fits nearly dead nuts to the section already cut in my trunk for the "pro street" plastic cell that came with the car.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/GEDC0024.jpg

After Mary Pozzi drove my car she insisted I get a larger steering wheel. So I have finally obliged with a new 350mm Sparco (Xmas present). :D

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_001-11.jpg

And one of my favorite winter projects was the Nascar/ARCA Boom Tube exhaust I scored off ebay super cheap. Took some fab work at the shop to make it work, but it was a great starting piece and of great quality. 3.5" merge into the 19.5" x 1.5" exit. Don't have a great pic of the side view yet but this is how it came

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo-12.jpg

then after some tweaking at the King Muffler in Morgan Hill (Thanks Mike)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/boomtube.jpg

and an undercar view after the white paint job

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMAG0605.jpg

Rich did a fab job of modding the Corbeau brackets to get them flush with the floor so my XP1 Pro seats fit me just right now suited up with helmet.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo-13.jpg

And finally, a little autoX action last Sunday at Marina. That darn quick Deanna beat me again by a nose hair. :lol: Of course Mary whooped us all really bad.

I took Rich's son Richie for his first autoX ride. Dad hopes this will motivate him more to get on his 1st gen Camaro father-son project. :thumbsup:

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After talking with Dave & Mary P at Marina about my bad plowing front end, we finally decided to try a smaller front bar. So a Hotchis hollow bar has replaced the solid Addco bar. Will try that next and see what difference that makes... one change at a time when tuning!

[Bucketlist2012]

So the new car is more tame ???

Oh man...Does not look tame to me...

Love it...

i need more goodies, but i must keep the wife happy:cheers:

My interior and phase two will have to wait.

Sweet gen one car:lateral: :woot:

[intocarss]

Car's looking great, I like the new additions!! Is that vid with the new exhaust?? How loud is it?

[Track Junky]

Nice score on the cell Dave and I'm glad to see your finally dumping that tuner wheel.
I think you hit Ricky Bobby territory with that exhaust :lol:

Just kiddin' bro, cant wait to hear that thing :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

So the new car is more tame ???

Oh man...Does not look tame to me...

Love it...

i need more goodies, but i must keep the wife happy:cheers:

My interior and phase two will have to wait.

Sweet gen one car:lateral: :woot:

Thank you Mike... def not tame, but I have room for more "ROWDY" I think. :D

Car's looking great, I like the new additions!! Is that vid with the new exhaust?? How loud is it?

Jerry, right? Thanks! Yes that was first real day out with new exhaust... it's pretty loud but I failed to mention I put the Car Chemistry 3 disk inserts in it and that is supposedly good for a 7 decibel reduction. I like it. :cheers:


Nice score on the cell Dave and I'm glad to see your finally dumping that tuner wheel.
I think you hit Ricky Bobby territory with that exhaust :lol:

Just kiddin' bro, cant wait to hear that thing :thumbsup:

Yeah it was just a matter of priorities. The old wheel "worked" but was not ideal... so it was time.

And I take the Rick Bobby comment as a compliment! :lol: :cheers:

[intocarss]

Jerry, right? Thanks! Yes that was first real day out with new exhaust... it's pretty loud but I failed to mention I put the Car Chemistry 3 disk inserts in it and that is supposedly good for a 7 decibel reduction. I like it. :cheers:


Yup it's Jerry. And we will need audio from outside :unibrow:

I think you may be the first to run that exhaust on a street / track car

[Vegas69]

NASCAR exhaust is bad ass.

[Bryce]

Car looks like its running great!

How long are those bladders good for?

[89 RS]

Dave, those are some great mods for ya. That boom-tube exhaust is cool as hell.

Can I ask what kind of mods Rich did to the seat brackets to fit them better for you?

[Ron in SoCal]

Dave-O....:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The transformation is incredible :D

[Flash68]

Yup it's Jerry. And we will need audio from outside :unibrow:

I think you may be the first to run that exhaust on a street / track car

I def need to get some good video. I wanna know what it sounds like from the outside too! :thumbsup:

There is a guy on PT forum running a similar setup though...

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?11590-NASCAR-Camaro&highlight=car+chemistry


NASCAR exhaust is bad ass.

Thanks... now what's the catch? :lol:

Car looks like its running great!

How long are those bladders good for?

Car is running great, but it ain't turning great! :lol: Gotta dial in the front end for better turn in. Otherwise just play more with spring rates, shock settings.

I was told the bladders can last well over a decade. There are known bladders in use for almost 20 years. The one I am getting has been drained every winter (midwest) and has been not used for 4 or 5 years. Came out of a Bondurant car from mid 2000s... not that that matters.

Dave, those are some great mods for ya. That boom-tube exhaust is cool as hell.

Can I ask what kind of mods Rich did to the seat brackets to fit them better for you?

Thanks Corey.... The brackets that came from Corbeau sit pretty high. Basically had to cut the L-shaped brackets that lift it off the floor about 1.5" or so. That moved it just enough for me. Mary Pozzi did a similar thing with her same seats and brackets.

[fleetus macmullitz]

There is a guy on PT forum running a similar setup though...

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?11590-NASCAR-Camaro&highlight=car+chemistry



His vid was posted here too by an overzealous lat-g member. :_paranoid

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=356707&postcount=19.

[Flash68]

Dave-O....:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The transformation is incredible :D

Thanks dude!

His vid was posted here too by an overzealous lat-g member. :_paranoid

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=356707&postcount=19.

Thanks for posting that... I was gonna... knew you'd pick me up! :D

Unless it's just the video/sound quality that system seems quiet compared to mine. :_paranoid

[Sieg]

Great additions to the car and it sounds great!

[fleetus macmullitz]

Thanks dude!

Thanks for posting that... I was gonna... knew you'd pick me up! :D

Unless it's just the video/sound quality that system seems quiet compared to mine. :_paranoid

The owner of NASCAM and the conglomerate that owns BMF could donate their time to do a Ritcher scale test out your way to decide this probing question. :wow:

[coolwelder62]

The Exhaust is awesome.Sound's great on track.:thumbsup:

[intocarss]

I def need to get some good video. I wanna know what it sounds like from the outside too! :thumbsup:

I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE NO PROBLEM FINDING SOMEONE TO DO A FLY BY WHILE YOU STAND CURB SIDE :willy:

Also, is the steering wheel that is in the Camaro in the video a 12 or 13" ? Thanks

[Flash68]

I'M SURE YOU'LL HAVE NO PROBLEM FINDING SOMEONE TO DO A FLY BY WHILE YOU STAND CURB SIDE :willy:

Also, is the steering wheel that is in the Camaro in the video a 12 or 13" ? Thanks

Current (in the video) is 330mm (about 13") and I will be stepping up to 350mm (14").

[Vegas69]

I'd stick with the small wheel. You are getting married, a beer belly in NOT optional. :cheers: :D

[waynieZ]

I'd stick with the small wheel. You are getting married, a beer belly in NOT optional. :cheers: :D

Listen to the man! Now my arms are almost too short to steer..

[fleetus macmullitz]

Listen to the man! Now my arms are almost too short to steer..

:lol:


Flash has got too much

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to let that happen. :unibrow:

[Flash68]

Oh man, now this thread is even turning on me!! :lol: :cheers:

[89 RS]

Thanks Corey.... The brackets that came from Corbeau sit pretty high. Basically had to cut the L-shaped brackets that lift it off the floor about 1.5" or so. That moved it just enough for me. Mary Pozzi did a similar thing with her same seats and brackets.

Ok, thanks Dave. That is what I did to my seat brackets when I put the new seats in my car. I've wondered how many people modify the floorpans to get the seats to sit lower or any other modifications they do for seat fitment. I think DSE actually does modify the floorpans a bit for seat fitment if necesssary...just thinking out loud. Again, cool stuff going on with your ride.

[Flash68]

Ok, thanks Dave. That is what I did to my seat brackets when I put the new seats in my car. I've wondered how many people modify the floorpans to get the seats to sit lower or any other modifications they do for seat fitment. I think DSE actually does modify the floorpans a bit for seat fitment if necesssary...just thinking out loud. Again, cool stuff going on with your ride.

Yes, we talked about the floor plans too. And I'm just glad we didn't have to go that far. Lucky I am only 6' and not taller.

And thanks! :thumbsup:

[CrossRamRich]

Yes....... we will have the Blu Balz for an appetizer, then a Payback burger for the main course, and a Dougie Fresh salad. For dessert, we will have the Houbaugh cheesecake!:D :lol: :cheers:

[Flash68]

Yes....... we will have the Blu Balz for an appetizer, then a Payback burger for the main course, and a Dougie Fresh salad. For dessert, we will have the Houbaugh cheesecake!:D :lol: :cheers:


He doesn't post often, but when he does, it's usually a doozie. :D


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/frasertype.gif

[Vegas69]

Yes....... we will have the Blu Balz for an appetizer, then a Payback burger for the main course, and a Dougie Fresh salad. For dessert, we will have the Houbaugh cheesecake!:D :lol: :cheers:

It's time to get out of bed and change your soaked drawers. :rofl:

[sik68]

It's time to get out of bed and change your soaked drawers. :rofl:

:rofl:

[mrr1999]

After talking with Dave & Mary P at Marina about my bad plowing front end, we finally decided to try a smaller front bar. So a Hotchis hollow bar has replaced the solid Addco bar. Will try that next and see what difference that makes... one change at a time when tuning!

I am using the same solid Addco bar (on a much milder build) and was wondering if using that sway bar would make any first gen plow or does it depend on the combination of parts as a package that causes that result.

Did the Hotchkis bar make a big difference when you swapped it?

[Flash68]

I am using the same solid Addco bar (on a much milder build) and was wondering if using that sway bar would make any first gen plow or does it depend on the combination of parts as a package that causes that result.

Did the Hotchkis bar make a big difference when you swapped it?

I would say that running that bar is definitely not the norm and most are running a smaller bar or a hollow bar of similar size. I would think it's the total package though as you mentioned.... and I have not driven the car yet with the Hotchkis bar installed so I cannot report anything yet.

[Flash68]

I am not even sure where to start here... first, as many of you know, I've been battling some off and on fatigue and health issues for awhile now and it has kept me from making 3 track days since September. But I was determined to give it a shot at RTTC and do as much as I could. Well I not only made it through, I felt pretty good the whole time and still feed good now that I'm back. It is quite a medical mystery if you ask me, but I will just call RTTC exactly what the doctor ordered! :thumbsup:

Now, on to car stuff... I'll start by saying Badmotorfinger now has a bad motor... literally. Something happened mid morning on Friday on the road course. Not sure if overheating caused the problem, or a yet to be identified problem caused the overheating. Water temp was over 240 as I was pulling off the course and the coolant was empty. Not cool. First tow of he day back to the pits.

After a full body cavity search could not find an external problem so it's likely internal. Excessive blow-by is now occurring at this point at an alarming rate. :D

Button it up and head back out and see what happens. Power is down a bit but not terribly. Oil pressure a little low but acceptable. Make some more runs and see what happens. Went to the autoX and knocked over some cones. Man I usually don't hit an excessive amount of cones but I was on fire this weekend. :lol:

Back on the road course later in the afternoon and ran a short session but didn't get my clutchless rev matching downshift right and got the tranny stuck between gears. Tow #2 back to the pits.

Quickly got back out on track and went again.... it got a little hot and I came back in to cool and oil pressure was down to about 4 lbs. Yes, 4 lbs. Not cool again. It was mid afternoon now and decided to shut it down for the day and put some thicker oil in it for Saturday. Found some straight 50 at AutoZone and that was the life blood for another day. Oh and the battery was now dead. Add that to the shopping list.

Got back out Saturday and surprisingly the motor held its own for most of the day. Still down on power but pulling pretty good and would stumble a bit a times (also related to the float bowl adjustments for that speed stop dealio). Blow by is borderline hilarious at this point and I am getting texts and strangers coming up to me asking if my car is okay. One asked if I saw the smoke coming out of the engine... How could I not?! :lol:

After the motor injury, I was just wanted good clean runs in all 3 events and try to make the shootout. My car is terribly setup for that speed stop squared event so I knew I wouldn't make it far but I just wanted to make it, and I did. We are all anxious to see how we stack up and hopefully they post times soon. I've checked my videos and I have to say I am pretty happy with my estimated times based on my motor problems. The road course was and should be my best event and then the autocross and then I stunk up the speed stop drag race slalom deal. Was a blast though.

First report on recently installed mods:

Corbeau seats - fit great, feel great

Oil cooler system - TBD... oil temps reached high 280-290 when water temp was hitting 240+. Need to figure that out.

T101A trans - AWESOME. By the end of Saturday I was getting pretty decent at downshifting while left foot braking and right foot rev matching. Did experience some wicked wheel hop when timing was off on downshifts, but the car would stay straight as long as I was aimed straight.

Boom Tube exhaust - love it. Not too loud surprisingly due to the car chemistry inserts and it drew a lot of attention for both looks and sound. The GoPro captures the sound pretty good but definitely louder in person. :)

Carbotech brake pads - great pad when they are hot. They shined on the road course. Really liked them. Not sure if they helped a whole lot on autoX. Didn't feel like it even though I tried to drag the brakes quite a bit for that event and the drag/slalom/brake deal... oh yeah, as I drug the brakes people kept checking and asking what's wrong with my car again. LOL

Hotchkis front sway bar - maybe the best mod in past year. Made the turn in excellent and felt like 100 lbs were removed from front of car. I am actually excited to do the Goodguys Peanut in 2 weeks... if the motor cooperates with some oil pressure. :thumbsup:

Ok, enough commentary already. On to the videos. These look like my best times. I never put together a super clean road course lap and I think I look slow in this vid, but the time seems to be decent from what I've seen.

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And an AutoX run on Friday. Starts at about :58

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We had a blast of a weekend and I can't thank enough my good friend Rich Bermea of Road Touring Customs and his sidekick Frankie Judd for their track support and good times. These guys are great guys with big hearts and make it possible for me to do this stuff. And that Frankie can drive too. :thumbsup:

Looks like it's time to start finishing my new motor plans that were not ready yet.... good thing I already started collecting parts :)

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Looks good Dave, real clean. Sorry to hear about the engine troubles.

[Vegas69]

I agree with Vince, hell of a good wheel man. Your car seems to be working well and it was wounded so even more impressive. I like that little 377. Tear it apart and fix it before it BLOWS. :unibrow: I bet you broke a ring. A compression check will figure that one out.

Not that loud? I thought it was the 1987 Daytona 500 when Richie fired it up next to my trailer. :lol: Sounded really good!

[Payton King]

Gives you the excuse to put the one in that you have been gathering parts for this last year.

Never did see where you mentioned the brakes. Did you like the new pads?

Glad you were able to hold up physically, that has to be the brightest spot of the entire journey.

[fleetus macmullitz]

For a fat motor its not very jolly.

But I'm officially addicted to its sound and that shifting. :cool:

As far as all the cars' issues; you're a flexible problem solver so you'll come up with something creative.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Hot-Chick-Shoots-Bow-and-Arrow-With.jpg

[Tom.A]

Glad you made it and it was nice meeting you. Hope the motor issue gets resolved. It sounded great when I heard it.

[Ron in SoCal]

^ Skip, I think I'm gonna need to see that video, plus the dismount...:lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

^ Skip, I think I'm gonna need to see that video, plus the dismount...:lol:

Katya is amazing, yes? Sadly, her country controls the video.

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JERRY: So, Ceausescu. He must've been some dictator.

KATYA: Oh yes. He was not shy about dictating.

JERRY: He, uh, he must've been dictating first thing in the morning. "I want a cup of coffee and a muffin!"

KATYA: And you could not refuse.

JERRY: No, you'd have to be crazy.

KATYA: He was a very bad dictator.

JERRY: Yes. Very bad. Very, very bad.




:lol:

[Spiffav8]

Dave it was great to finally meet you after all these years. You've got a great bunch of friends and I enjoyed meeting them as well. Looking forward to getting down that way again soon and hanging out a bit more. The car is awesome and knowing you, it's only going to get better!

Thanks again for all the fun!

:captain:

[chr2002ca]

Dave, congrats again on the engagement and it was great meeting up with you and meeting Susan for the first time. I was happy to see you were able to get back out on the track and get some runs in. Your car looks better and better every time I see it, and the exhaust was totally NASCAR. :) I didn't know you were having health issues, so it's good to hear that you were feeling better via some RTTC medicine. :thumbsup:

[Nessumsar]

It was good to see you out at Rttc, even if it was briefly...:) Bummer to hear about the engine; I thought you were sponsored by Marlboro with how much she was smokin!

When I caught up to you on Saturday and your oil preasure was low, that was with 50wt? :_paranoid

[Flash68]

Looks good Dave, real clean. Sorry to hear about the engine troubles.

Thanks Vince. I guess that's what I get for gathering parts for my next motor... she found out and got jealous and knifed me! :lol:

I agree with Vince, hell of a good wheel man. Your car seems to be working well and it was wounded so even more impressive. I like that little 377. Tear it apart and fix it before it BLOWS. :unibrow: I bet you broke a ring. A compression check will figure that one out.

Not that loud? I thought it was the 1987 Daytona 500 when Richie fired it up next to my trailer. :lol: Sounded really good!

Thanks brother.. I can't complain too much and was thankful to finish the weekend out on the track with everyone after all that happened. But, as much as I have liked the 377, I am done with that combo and will be adding cubes. If I was only going to true road course track days it would be fine, but this motor lacked the low and mid range in all 3 events and it hurt me. Plus with the new heads I've acquired I need more cubes to keep it from being too peaky. We'll see.... but I've changed my stance on small cubes short stroke. This ain't NASCAR..... wait... is it? :lol:

Gives you the excuse to put the one in that you have been gathering parts for this last year.

Never did see where you mentioned the brakes. Did you like the new pads?

Glad you were able to hold up physically, that has to be the brightest spot of the entire journey.

Thanks Payton. The health thing was and is huge and definitely the bright spot for me. Thanks for reminder on brake pads -- they were great after some heat in them on road course. Not sure if they helped much on autoX - maybe a little. Def did not hurt.

For a fat motor its not very jolly.

But I'm officially addicted to its sound and that shifting. :cool:

As far as all the cars' issues; you're a flexible problem solver so you'll come up with something creative.


Now that is an image. And I agree -- the trans and exhaust are 2 of my fave parts of the car now. :thumbsup:

Glad you made it and it was nice meeting you. Hope the motor issue gets resolved. It sounded great when I heard it.

Hey you too Tom. And thanks. I was hoping to get a closer look at your car but didn't make it. Will see you next time.

^ Skip, I think I'm gonna need to see that video, plus the dismount...:lol:

Ron, you dirty dog. Good seeing you out there man. Next time will be in your ride. :woot:

Dave it was great to finally meet you after all these years. You've got a great bunch of friends and I enjoyed meeting them as well. Looking forward to getting down that way again soon and hanging out a bit more. The car is awesome and knowing you, it's only going to get better!

Thanks again for all the fun!

:captain:

You too Curtis. The crew that showed up at Doug's was perfect IMO... that was a blast. Hope you can make it up to Pleasanton in 2 weeks.

Thanks brother.. I am too competitive to sit back and let everyone else get better without me. Plus, I love the challenge to do more with less.

And I have to make some aesthetic changes to my car since my damn red-headed step sister Camaro was there... where the heck did that come from? :lol:



Dave, congrats again on the engagement and it was great meeting up with you and meeting Susan for the first time. I was happy to see you were able to get back out on the track and get some runs in. Your car looks better and better every time I see it, and the exhaust was totally NASCAR. :) I didn't know you were having health issues, so it's good to hear that you were feeling better via some RTTC medicine. :thumbsup:

Chris, thanks bud! So glad you made it too and wished we coulda chatted more.. can't wait to see your car V.2.0 out there.

It was good to see you out at Rttc, even if it was briefly...:) Bummer to hear about the engine; I thought you were sponsored by Marlboro with how much she was smokin!

When I caught up to you on Saturday and your oil preasure was low, that was with 50wt? :_paranoid

Yeah Jon, you too, and that was brief. I think you caused my drop in oil pressure. :lol:

Yes the oil pressure temporarily dropped to around 10 at idle when I was talking to you I remember. 50wt was in all Saturday. But it recovered and got mack to 15 or so and then I shot out to the road course. Based on the vitals of the engine all weekend it is quite shocking it lasted thru all the events and even drove back to the hotel on its own power. She's a tough little biatch!

[ironworks]

Don't forget the Grand Sport stripes. That will make you truely fast.

:D

[Spiffav8]

I have to make some aesthetic changes to my car since my damn red-headed step sister Camaro was there... where the heck did that come from? :lol:


I have no idea who's car that was. Just accept it. You're a trend setter and everyone wants to be like you. :lol:

[skatinjay27]

let me just say dave every pic I say with you car in it from the weekend reminded of how sick you car looks! :thumbsup:
and i dont even like mustangs!:lol:

[Tom.A]

I have no idea who's car that was. Just accept it. You're a trend setter and everyone wants to be like you. :lol:

Funny, I was behind that guy in tech and said hey are you Dave and then he said no I am Joe. Upon looking closer I saw a big block and knew I had the wrong guy.

Don't forget the Grand Sport stripes. That will make you truely fast.

:D :lol: they don't work for me

[Flash68]

Don't forget the Grand Sport stripes. That will make you truely fast.

:D

What are the odds another guy will mod a Camaro into a Viper colored, Corvette accessorized, Mustang striped bastard child!? :willy:

I have no idea who's car that was. Just accept it. You're a trend setter and everyone wants to be like you. :lol:

Well I intended to go talk to him but never made it.... I was gonna walk up and say first thing "what day and year did you paint this thing?" :D

let me just say dave every pic I say with you car in it from the weekend reminded of how sick you car looks! :thumbsup:
and i dont even like mustangs!:lol:

Thanks bud. In a sea of bad ass cars there, thanks for noticing mine. :cheers: And I am kinda forced to like Mustangs I guess... plus Maier's Mustang doesn't hurt. :woot:

Funny, I was behind that guy in tech and said hey are you Dave and then he said no I am Joe. Upon looking closer I saw a big block and knew I had the wrong guy.


Joe, Dave, Harold.... whatever. LOL :thumbsup:

[mdprovee]

Dave,

Glad you were able to make it thru the weekend, but sorry about the motor, I have been there done that. Let us know what your building next...hummm...

[awr68]

Dave, glad to hear your health was good enough to make the event!
Also, good to hear the motor didn't just let go! Sounds like you were creative and made it to all the events! Good deal!

Your a good driver, the videos show that! You just need to iron out a couple details, like the motor problems, and put down a perfect lap. Your day is coming my friend!! :cheers:

[seancarole]

Sorry to here motor troubles. she sounded great and the new motor will sound even better what clutch are you running?

[Flash68]

Dave,

Glad you were able to make it thru the weekend, but sorry about the motor, I have been there done that. Let us know what your building next...hummm...

Thanks Mike... I am still ironing out the details in my head to go along with the parts I've accumulated thus far... will def share when ready. :)

Dave, glad to hear your health was good enough to make the event!
Also, good to hear the motor didn't just let go! Sounds like you were creative and made it to all the events! Good deal!

Your a good driver, the videos show that! You just need to iron out a couple details, like the motor problems, and put down a perfect lap. Your day is coming my friend!! :cheers:

Thanks Tony... the health is above all else for sure. And thanks for the support man.. can't wait to some torque in my car... this motor is too darn peaky I've found out.

Sorry to here motor troubles. she sounded great and the new motor will sound even better what clutch are you running?

Thanks man... I have a Centerforce LMC (light metal clutch) in there now. Rated to 675 ft lbs.

[GregWeld]

So do you think inhaling oily smoke might be a newly discovered cure?

Please tell Sue I'm done entertaining her now!

Get off the Internet and "get busy"!

[Flash68]

So do you think inhaling oily smoke might be a newly discovered cure?

Please tell Sue I'm done entertaining her now!

Get off the Internet and "get busy"!

Hmm... oily smoke... you might be on to something there. I like it.

Suzie Q asks where did Ben Stein go to next? :lol:

[intocarss]

Sorry you had issues with your car and hope your health is OK (a day at the races is always the best cure) :thumbsup:

As I am sure you know....excessive overheating can cause ring failure, kills the valve springs etc . And If the oil gets hot enough, It will break down and will not lubricate the cylinder walls, bearings and just kills them.

With the temps you described, I would say you collapsed your rings, maybe scorched a piston and your cylinder walls are now distorted.. aka out of round. Your low oil pressure may be due to the bearing clearances opening up due to the excessive heat

Your car sounds awesome !!! I'm sure you'll make her bigger and badder then it is now

[Flash68]

I had a request for this one... forgot about. Not a good run obviously but was kinduva fun ending. :woot:

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[fleetus macmullitz]

I had a request for this one... forgot about. Not a good run obviously but was kinduva fun ending. :woot:

YXZC8XqQBCQ

Much better than cable. That car's got a real attitude you know. :lol:

And its about to get even more with what you said is being cooked up at the renowned BMF Labs. :D

[Flash68]

Sorry you had issues with your car and hope your health is OK (a day at the races is always the best cure) :thumbsup:

As I am sure you know....excessive overheating can cause ring failure, kills the valve springs etc . And If the oil gets hot enough, It will break down and will not lubricate the cylinder walls, bearings and just kills them.

With the temps you described, I would say you collapsed your rings, maybe scorched a piston and your cylinder walls are now distorted.. aka out of round. Your low oil pressure may be due to the bearing clearances opening up due to the excessive heat

Your car sounds awesome !!! I'm sure you'll make her bigger and badder then it is now

Thanks Jerry. Appreciate it. :thumbsup:

Yeah it could easily be and is likely one or more of those issues you mentioned. Won't know til we open it up. Debating on taking it to GG Pleasanton AutoX in 10 days as is. It's just a short peanut course and lasts 30 seconds tops and I don't see more than 5500 rpm.... Hmmm...

Bigger and badder is definitely in the works... ;)


Much better than cable. That car's got a real attitude you know. :lol:

And its about to get even more with what you said is being cooked up at the renowned BMF Labs. :D

Thank you good sir. BMF Lab techs are hard at work in the lair.... :cool:

[intocarss]

Thanks Jerry. Appreciate it. :thumbsup:

Yeah it could easily be and is likely one or more of those issues you mentioned. Won't know til we open it up. Debating on taking it to GG Pleasanton AutoX in 10 days as is. It's just a short peanut course and lasts 30 seconds tops and I don't see more than 5500 rpm.... Hmmm...

Bigger and badder is definitely in the works... ;)



"Your low oil pressure may be due to the bearing clearances opening up due to the excessive heat"

After talking to my boss this may not be the issue with your oil pressure, as the clearances wouldn't change enough to worry. You may have scuffed a rod or main bearing. Since you're going to run it again, you should check your oil filter for bearing material. BTW I sent you a friend request over on FB

[GregWeld]

Email me you bonehead... after you and Rich come up with some plan. I have LOTS of engine parts that could be of use to you.

I think you need a big cubic inch small block but with some piston in it so you're not scuffing the cylinder walls and you have some oil control. So maybe a raised deck SBC with your other top secret stuff you told me about.

Big inches is big torque and trust me when I tell you I have a SBC that revs faster than you can catch it! They just have to be built right.

[Vegas69]

Jerry, Are you advising Mr. Gordon that he should've pulled off the track when his coolant temperature gauge crested 250 degrees and his oil temp needle was buried? :D :lol:

[intocarss]

Jerry, Are you advising Mr. Gordon that he should've pulled off the track when his coolant temperature gauge crested 250 degrees and his oil temp needle was buried? :D :lol: NAH... He was having toooooo much fun & he has "spare parts"!! I agree with Greg! Build a BIG INCH SBC and let her eat!! :thumbsup:

[Matt@BOS]

Jerry, Are you advising Mr. Gordon that he should've pulled off the track when his coolant temperature gauge crested 250 degrees and his oil temp needle was buried? :D :lol:

250 with no oil pressure? I feel like a wimp, I pulled into the pits after at 230 and a little oil pressure.

Maybe you also have two blown head gaskets? :lol:

Matt

[Sandbagger]

Is that still the 377 in there ? What do you have in mind to replace it with ?
Im on the fence on what to build for myself . I do the same kind of trackdays you do .

[Flash68]

"Your low oil pressure may be due to the bearing clearances opening up due to the excessive heat"

After talking to my boss this may not be the issue with your oil pressure, as the clearances wouldn't change enough to worry. You may have scuffed a rod or main bearing. Since you're going to run it again, you should check your oil filter for bearing material. BTW I sent you a friend request over on FB

10-4 the oil is a little dark so we'll check the filter too.

Oh so YOU are Jerdog? I'm glad you told me! :lol:

Email me you bonehead... after you and Rich come up with some plan. I have LOTS of engine parts that could be of use to you.

I think you need a big cubic inch small block but with some piston in it so you're not scuffing the cylinder walls and you have some oil control. So maybe a raised deck SBC with your other top secret stuff you told me about.

Big inches is big torque and trust me when I tell you I have a SBC that revs faster than you can catch it! They just have to be built right.

Thanks Ben Stein... I'll email ya. I agree and do want to stay below a 4" stroke but maximize cubes... so maybe a 420 or 422 with a 3-7/8 crank. I need good cubes to swallow the big ports of my new heads to make decent torque... and yeah, a tall deck block would be ideal.

I like lightweight parts for fast revs. :thumbsup:

Jerry, Are you advising Mr. Gordon that he should've pulled off the track when his coolant temperature gauge crested 250 degrees and his oil temp needle was buried? :D :lol:

Hey, it was 240 when I pulled over.... it was 250 when I restarted it to reverse back out into the safe zone off the track. :_paranoid

I heard a good one this weekend re the solution for high oil temps... just don't run an oil temp gauge. :P

NAH... He was having toooooo much fun & he has "spare parts"!! I agree with Greg! Build a BIG INCH SBC and let her eat!! :thumbsup:

Well to be fair the temps shot up from 201 to 240 very quickly and I was planning on pulling over soon. Maybe just not soon enough.

250 with no oil pressure? I feel like a wimp, I pulled into the pits after at 230 and a little oil pressure.

Maybe you also have two blown head gaskets? :lol:

Matt

230 ain't nuttin for those LS motors I hear... but your motor is also worth 5x as much as mine. :D

Blown head gasket(s) is a strong possibility... we lost a lot of water since Saturday already too.... but no water in the oil.

Is that still the 377 in there ? What do you have in mind to replace it with ?
Im on the fence on what to build for myself . I do the same kind of trackdays you do .

Yup... same 377 I've been workin hard since late 2010... and it was built in about 2000. Sucker was built well!

As of now I am looking a bigger cube small block with a serious top end and shaft rockers... I just dont have the power when Im below 4500 rpm and that costs me serious time....

[Track Junky]

Great job at RTTC Dave. :thumbsup: I have a feeling your next motor is going to be a serious contender.:unibrow:

[Vegas69]

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa251/Payback1969/P3091221.jpg

Fines are double in a work zone.:rofl:

[Track Junky]

Damn Dave!! If I ever have traffic control set up in your hood I'll have to have a special sign made up for you alone, :lol:

[Sandbagger]

Note to self...
Do not ever wear a orange T-shirt around you .

[fleetus macmullitz]

The word is out, you anti cone-ite!

They were a happy people last week...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Coneheads-movie-01.jpg


this week

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/1284578079.jpg

[Vegas69]

:rofl: :rofl:

[intocarss]

Are those cones under his front wheels?? At first I thought they were those plastic tire chalks. He's a cone killa!! Great pic!!

[Tom.A]

Dave,

Great driving:thumbsup: You hung with all the big boys

[Flash68]

Great job at RTTC Dave. :thumbsup: I have a feeling your next motor is going to be a serious contender.:unibrow:

Thanks brother... and I agree on the motor... hopefully the driver keeps improving. :thumbsup:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa251/Payback1969/P3091221.jpg

Fines are double in a work zone.:rofl:

Dude that is classic.. great pic! that might be the run where the girl came up to me and asked if I could possibly hite any more cones? :lol:

Damn Dave!! If I ever have traffic control set up in your hood I'll have to have a special sign made up for you alone, :lol:

Note to self...
Do not ever wear a orange T-shirt around you .

:rofl: :rofl:

Are those cones under his front wheels?? At first I thought they were those plastic tire chalks. He's a cone killa!! Great pic!!

Ha ha ha ha.... yuck it up guys! :lol:

[Flash68]

Okay now that the results are posted I am really happy overall with how I did considering how the car acted all weekend.

Placing 6th out of 69 cars in the AutoX really makes me happy. And beating the likes of Mary Pozzi, Kyle Newman, Shipka and Casanova who are all fantastic experienced drivers with well great cars. How can I not love that?

12th on the Road Course is a minor letdown for me. But I never made a clean lap and the motor wasn't at 100% so not really fair to expect the Top 5 I was shooting for.... motor plans hopefully remedy that for next year. :unibrow:

22nd in the Speed Stop/Slalom isn't very good but what can I expect when I have no torque, tall gears and have to keep my foot on the gas while braking on the U turn to avoid stalling due to the carb? :lol: I did love the event though and agree with Todd in that it's a great ultimate test for any car... and this event might single-handedly be responsible for my changed plan for BadMotor V2.0. Gotta have some torque! And a carb with road race floats will happen to avoid that issue again....

Overall, was happy to be healthy, happy to see all my buddies and make new friends.... finishing strong with a wounded car is just the icing baby.

Can't wait til next year already... :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Are those cones under his front wheels?? At first I thought they were those plastic tire chalks. He's a cone killa!! Great pic!!

Even that orange ING balloon is trying to GTF out of the way. LOL

Nice job Dave. :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Dave,

Great driving:thumbsup: You hung with all the big boys

Thank you Tom! :cheers:

The word is out, you anti cone-ite!

They were a happy people last week...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Coneheads-movie-01.jpg


this week

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/1284578079.jpg

:lol: Now that is comedic talent right there. :cheers:

Even that orange ING balloon is trying to GTF out of the way. LOL

Nice job Dave. :thumbsup:

Thanks Vince... I think. :lol:


Hey Todd, that's right... I am dangerous...

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[DFRESH]

Congrats bro--that's impressive with everything you had working against you--especially on the autocross---leaf springs and cal tracs work just fine evidently---as does the stock front subframe---nicely done dude. Throw out that posi and I will really respect you---

D

[Flash68]

Congrats bro--that's impressive with everything you had working against you--especially on the autocross---leaf springs and cal tracs work just fine evidently---as does the stock front subframe---nicely done dude. Throw out that posi and I will really respect you---

D

Dude.. talked about a lot with next to nothin. Your times are ridiculous for that bucket of bolts lowrider you're driving with unicycle tires. Unreal. :thumbsup:

I am anxious... and scared... for the day you put those parts in. :thumbsup:

And much thanks for the party and the cake for our engagements. That was really cool of you and Cassie and we really appreciate it bro. You're alright Mr Renner... :thumbsup: :cheers:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Hey Todd, that's right... I am dangerous...


Okay, sure right ...you're a bad man.

But you gotta few levels to go before you can be this dangerous.

GNrB6qpmNwg


:lol:

[tones2SS]

Are those cones under his front wheels?? At first I thought they were those plastic tire chalks.

I thought the same thing at first. lol:_paranoid

[Chad-1stGen]

ha ha I love that pic with the cones under your tires!

[Sieg]

Great driving Dave. :thumbsup:

Official Flash68 team mascot?

http://www.kevinneeld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Underdog.jpg

[torino420]

Awesome job Dave! :hail:

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/DAVEMOTORFINGER.png

[intocarss]

I thought the same thing at first. lol:_paranoidIt could be Dolly Parton under there

[Flash68]

Great driving Dave. :thumbsup:

Official Flash68 team mascot?

http://www.kevinneeld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Underdog.jpg

haha... that's not very masculine there! :willy:

Awesome job Dave! :hail:

Thanks Jason! Good hearing from you dude... would love to see your car out there with us! :thumbsup:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/DAVEMOTORFINGER.png

Now that's what I'm talking about... I have thought about reserving the domain for that for my future race team. :D

[Bucketlist2012]

Excellent Job...

I wish I was there to see it.. Well Done

I may not make Pleasanton because it is so small. I may try to make a Marina event.they look to be higher speeds.

I have no idea how my carbed SBC will do, but I am itching to find out...Let the redline begin..

[torino420]

Thanks Jason! Good hearing from you dude... would love to see your car out there with us! :thumbsup:


Me too! The car needs more work before I can do anything like that, hopefully sometime in the near future.

I need to start by attending one of these events to check things out. :yes:

[Matt@BOS]

Will you be up in Pleasonton trying to blow your engine up one last time? I can't remember if you said you were going to be there or not. I may try to make it up.

Matt

[Flash68]

Excellent Job...

I wish I was there to see it.. Well Done

I may not make Pleasanton because it is so small. I may try to make a Marina event.they look to be higher speeds.

I have no idea how my carbed SBC will do, but I am itching to find out...Let the redline begin..

Thanks Mike. I don't blame you on GG... I doubt it would be my preferred first autoX if I got to choose... Marina is more wide open and less hectic.

Glad to see you will be getting out there soon! :thumbsup:

Me too! The car needs more work before I can do anything like that, hopefully sometime in the near future.

I need to start by attending one of these events to check things out. :yes:

All our cars need more work.. :D If that thing drives, come on out soon... you thinking autoX to start? Maybe Marina? Goodguys? I'd love to see how that Q-Link performs in that car. :thumbsup:

Will you be up in Pleasonton trying to blow your engine up one last time? I can't remember if you said you were going to be there or not. I may try to make it up.

Matt

I was leaning toward trying it, but it now appears I toasted the pressure plate too so I am pretty undrivable at the moment with 2 of the 3 key components of the drivetrain not working properly... (ya think?) :lol:

Looks like I'll be a spectator over there this time... :mad:

[scottysimp7]

DG1 (and only) Dude nice times while driving a big band aid! Crazy to think "what could of been" on a 100% car. Theres always next year. :D Well done brotha'. Team RTC baby :woot:

[sik68]

Dave, how fast are you going to get that BMF back up and running? It's going to be a beast. Giving any thought to bumping up the compression and running some triple digit octane?


DG1 (and only) Dude nice times while driving a big band aid! Crazy to think "what could of been" on a 100% car. Theres always next year. :D Well done brotha'. Team RTC baby :woot:

Hey Scott it was good meeting you down there. Love your car, hoping to get a closer look at it some day soon.

[Flash68]

DG1 (and only) Dude nice times while driving a big band aid! Crazy to think "what could of been" on a 100% car. Theres always next year. :D Well done brotha'. Team RTC baby :woot:

Scotty - thanks, and so glad you made it bro.. it was a blast and so much fun with the whole RTC crew there. I am so glad your car and Eric's made it strong thru the weekend. Your car was a beast and you (and Frankie) did very well for your first outing. The car is tits man. Can't wait til we get out again somewhere... :thumbsup:

Dave, how fast are you going to get that BMF back up and running? It's going to be a beast. Giving any thought to bumping up the compression and running some triple digit octane?






Well, the motor plans are being concocted immediately.. not sure on timeframe... got a few more parts to procure... and the engine builder to lock down... Todd's step-brother Pettis would be on the list but I really want to keep this vendor local. I'm done with long distance vendors if I can help it... here is my short list of local engine guys:

http://www.watsonracingengineering.com/
http://www.lewisracingengines.com
http://topofthehillpc.com/
http://www.yelp.com/biz/robert-cancilla-machine-san-jose (built Karl Chicca's current motor)

You got any other good leads?

And I still wanna go pump gas for street driving and to maintain some sort of identification with "pro touring".. :unibrow:

[Vegas69]

I've heard good things about Lewis from Jody and the guys on Chevelles.com. He does tend to be a little backed up though. I'm with you on keeping things as close as possible.

[GregWeld]

DG1 (and only) <--------- this is obviously a SWEET SUE influenced referrence.


Sent you mail... My motor in the Mustang - and several of Charley's race car motors were built at TOE Performance (Tony Odo) in Suisan, CA

:cheers:

[torino420]

All our cars need more work.. :D If that thing drives, come on out soon... you thinking autoX to start? Maybe Marina? Goodguys? I'd love to see how that Q-Link performs in that car. :thumbsup:

Well it appears that my roller lifters need to be replaced so hoping to do that in a few months, but also feel that I would need to change my oil pan to a RR pan before I did any kind of hard cornering. Some other concerns as well but have "home" priorities right now so those things need to wait

But yea would love to be able to get out and beat on it :yes:

[Flash68]

I've heard good things about Lewis from Jody and the guys on Chevelles.com. He does tend to be a little backed up though. I'm with you on keeping things as close as possible.

Yep I've traded many emails with Mike (Lewis) in recent months. Great guy and super detail oriented and communicates well (a lost art). But, he is up in the boonies about 3 hrs north of me... but a possibility.

It'll be a tough call.... Watson Racing did a bunch of the work on my current motor for the previous owner and I had a good hour talk with him recently too. And that thing has held up well!

DG1 (and only) <--------- this is obviously a SWEET SUE influenced referrence.


Sent you mail... My motor in the Mustang - and several of Charley's race car motors were built at TOE Performance (Tony Odo) in Suisan, CA

:cheers:

DG1 and Sweet Sue. :D

I didn't realize Odo was local... I don't want to go all out hardcore race but he still might be an option and Suisun is only 1 hour from me.

Well it appears that my roller lifters need to be replaced so hoping to do that in a few months, but also feel that I would need to change my oil pan to a RR pan before I did any kind of hard cornering. Some other concerns as well but have "home" priorities right now so those things need to wait

But yea would love to be able to get out and beat on it :yes:

I hear ya man... let me know when you're ready to get out and we'll figure out when and where! I think a lot of people will love that Torino in our overburdened world of Camaros. :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Phat SBC...yeah, just add a little bigger brake. :_paranoid

UngpcDVz7x0

[Ron in SoCal]

^ My old stomping grounds Skip! I used to pimp beer at that 7-11 after school...:lol:

[Flash68]

Nelson is a riot... that DZ is killer... I was hoping to hear some power numbers/specs but didn't see them. Sounds wicked tho. :thumbsup: And I agree -- bring on some more cubes! :unibrow:

^ My old stomping grounds Skip! I used to pimp beer at that 7-11 after school...:lol:

Ron has just relocated his beer pimping business inland a ways. :D

[Ron in SoCal]

Nelson is a riot... that DZ is killer... I was hoping to hear some power numbers/specs but didn't see them. Sounds wicked tho. :thumbsup: And I agree -- bring on some more cubes! :unibrow:



Ron has just relocated his beer pimping business inland a ways. :D

Notice Tom said DZ302 'cheater'... only the rumble of the cubes gives that away! :yes:

Yeah, that was a walk down memory lane. Notice the 4bys and motorcycles when he made the left (on Plummer St)? That's where I got my influences from...along w beer drinking :D Many moons ago we used to race on the first street in the vid (Winnekta St) :doh:

Now I live next to the Jeffersons :lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

^ My old stomping grounds Skip! I used to pimp beer at that 7-11 after school...:lol:

Quite the grog shop, eh?

:lol:

Nelson is a riot... that DZ is killer... I was hoping to hear some power numbers/specs but didn't see them. Sounds wicked tho. :thumbsup: And I agree -- bring on some more cubes! :unibrow:



He's got various vids on YT of that motor making anywheres from 1150 or so to 1750 hp IIRC.

4TJwu9HwzoM&feature

Cubeage is good. :cool:




Now I live next to the Jeffersons :lol:

Your life sounds like a fantasy camp!

:unibrow:

[intocarss]

^ My old stomping grounds Skip! I used to pimp beer at that 7-11 after school...:lol: Ron, So you remember the Winnetka 6 drive in that was there? My old sand blasting shop (A&M) is one driveway up from Toms. I remember when he first opened...he bought out Bill Hyats (sp) shop

[Ron in SoCal]

Ron, So you remember the Winnetka 6 drive in that was there? My old sand blasting shop (A&M) is one driveway up from Toms. I remember when he first opened...he bought out Bill Hyats (sp) shop

Oh yeah Jerry. Was having fun there before I could drive...:D

Lot's of great small industry in the area and a hobbiest's dream. Everything from small paint shops, machine shops, specialty manufacturing, etc.

I figured you srpung up from there Jerry! Marc @ Bent is not too far also.

[sixnina]

Scotty - thanks, and so glad you made it bro.. it was a blast and so much fun with the whole RTC crew there. I am so glad your car and Eric's made it strong thru the weekend. Your car was a beast and you (and Frankie) did very well for your first outing. The car is tits man. Can't wait til we get out again somewhere... :thumbsup:



Well, the motor plans are being concocted immediately.. not sure on timeframe... got a few more parts to procure... and the engine builder to lock down... Todd's step-brother Pettis would be on the list but I really want to keep this vendor local. I'm done with long distance vendors if I can help it... here is my short list of local engine guys:

http://www.watsonracingengineering.com/
http://www.lewisracingengines.com
http://topofthehillpc.com/
http://www.yelp.com/biz/robert-cancilla-machine-san-jose (built Karl Chicca's current motor)

You got any other good leads?

And I still wanna go pump gas for street driving and to maintain some sort of identification with "pro touring".. :unibrow:

Dave,
I live in GILROY and have a few motors built by Cres over at GILROY automotive machine he does great work and I know he builds quite a bit of motors for the guys that do dirt track over there in Watsonville he may not be well known but he is as local as you can get and his work speaks for its self. Ps when's ric having another BBQ!

[Flash68]

Dave,
I live in GILROY and have a few motors built by Cres over at GILROY automotive machine he does great work and I know he builds quite a bit of motors for the guys that do dirt track over there in Watsonville he may not be well known but he is as local as you can get and his work speaks for its self. Ps when's ric having another BBQ!

Yeah I know who Cres is... he's friends with Rich... he did some work on my heads last winter... the work was fine... but I was told about a price he did a very simple 383 stroker motor for someone recently... and that was the end of it for me. :)

I have found my engine builder and the guy is legit and local to me (Gilroy is not very local to me -- it's just where my car lives :lol:).

My new engine build has commenced... and I'll be posting details soon. :thumbsup:

Another BBQ needs to happen soon at RTC I agree! :cheers:

[awr68]

My new engine build has commenced... and I'll be posting details soon. :thumbsup:


This made my day! Congrats on moving forward! :cheers:

[torino420]

My new engine build has commenced... and I'll be posting details soon. :thumbsup:

Another BBQ needs to happen soon at RTC I agree! :cheers:

YEA! Look forwarded to hearing about the new motor. :woot:

[Ron in SoCal]

This made my day! Congrats on moving forward! :cheers:

YEA! Look forwarded to hearing about the new motor. :woot:

Todd - I got this...

Dave - it's gonna be a turd...:D

:lateral:

[Track Junky]

Todd - I got this...

Dave - it's gonna be a turd...:D

:lateral:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Thats all we need....another Todd. Nice one Ron. :thumbsup:

I'll bet she's gonna rip!! Cant wait till Buttonwillow. :unibrow:

[Ron in SoCal]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Thats all we need....another Todd. Nice one Ron. :thumbsup:

I'll bet she's gonna rip!! Cant wait till Buttonwillow. :unibrow:

There's only one Todd...:D

Car will rip, I know it! Spy pics tomorrow Dave? :woot:

[Flash68]

Thanks Todd... I mean Ron.... :lol: Great, now Todd has new disciples. That's all we need.

Spy pics? I have no idea what you are talking about.... :_paranoid :D

[DFRESH]

Todd - I got this...

Dave - it's gonna be a turd...:D

:lateral:

LOL Ron--that was classic beating Todd to the punch--that was a good one.


Dave congrats on the engine build---that is great news---should be done just in time for the Sept event, right? :lol:

Give us details when you can bro---great news!

D

[sik68]

Can't wait to see this motor make some wicked power!

[intocarss]

Spy pics? I have no idea what you are talking about.... :_paranoid :D

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ScudWillie.jpg

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^ that's funny!

LMAO


:cheers:

[Flash68]

Dave congrats on the engine build---that is great news---should be done just in time for the Sept event, right? :lol:



Man that doesn't sound good.... because my wedding is right before the Sept event. :willy:

My goal is to meet up with Gaetano at a Thunderhill event in July or Aug for some shaking down. :woot:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ScudWillie.jpg

:lol: Please come punch me in the face if my engine looks like that when done.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Don't forget the intimidation factor of the proper valve cover decal. They'll never know what hit'em.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/DC221.jpg

:lol:

[Vegas69]

Ron, don't quit your day job.

[sixnina]

Yeah I know who Cres is... he's friends with Rich... he did some work on my heads last winter... the work was fine... but I was told about a price he did a very simple 383 stroker motor for someone recently... and that was the end of it for me. :)

I have found my engine builder and the guy is legit and local to me (Gilroy is not very local to me -- it's just where my car lives :lol:).

My new engine build has commenced... and I'll be posting details soon. :thumbsup:

Another BBQ needs to happen soon at RTC I agree! :cheers:

Well that's good to hear can't wait to see what the next few months bring!

[intocarss]

Man that doesn't sound good.... because my wedding is right before the Sept event. :willy:

My goal is to meet up with Gaetano at a Thunderhill event in July or Aug for some shaking down. :woot:



:lol: Please come punch me in the face if my engine looks like that when done.

HEY THERE'S 10 STAGES OF N2o. That's 1 stage per exit of each corner..LET HER EAT

[badmatt]

I count 12 stages....

:unibrow:

Dave I'll have those dyno sheets for you!

[Flash68]

Don't forget the intimidation factor of the proper valve cover decal. They'll never know what hit'em.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/DC221.jpg

:lol:

That's actually awesome and would be fun to run. :thumbsup:

HEY THERE'S 10 STAGES OF N2o. That's 1 stage per exit of each corner..LET HER EAT

I think I'll convert to AWD to try to control that. :D


Dave I'll have those dyno sheets for you!

Yes send those over! :thumbsup:

[Nick.V70]

Damn you lost the motor....sorry man. Can't wait to see what you do on the next, I am not sure if you should be doing this many solenoids....looks like a wiring nightmare:_paranoid


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ScudWillie.jpg

[GregWeld]

No braided hose -- that's for wimps... Hard line it!


EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA


Then - give it the Troy Trepanier "everything hidden" look. NOW we're talkin'!


:woot:

[Spiffav8]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ScudWillie.jpg

What happens when you hit 88mph? :_paranoid

[Sieg]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ScudWillie.jpg

What happens when you hit 88mph? :_paranoid

http://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000017989099-4j87xo-original.jpg

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ScudWillie.jpg

What happens when you hit 88mph? :_paranoid
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/blueanglescopy.jpg


:woot:

[Sieg]

The car would look good with yellow CHEVY stripes on it. :D

[tones2SS]

You guys are too much! :rofl:

[KlasSic68]

Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but do we know what the new motor is going to be?

[GregWeld]

Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but do we know what the new motor is going to be?

A Wankel -- he loves RPMS!

:woot:

[Sieg]

A Wankel -- he loves RPMS!

:woot:

TURBO Wankel!

http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/12216823+w750+st0/turp_0811_02_z+2008_subaru_wrx_sti_auto_news+mazda _rotary_engine.jpg

:woot: :woot:

[intocarss]

Up dates???????????

[Flash68]

Sorry if I missed it somewhere, but do we know what the new motor is going to be?

Haha - go easy on Justin guys... he is the guy who sold me this beast of a car and got me started with a great foundation. :cheers:

You didn't miss anything Justin -- I haven't let the cat out of the bag yet -- details still being finalized and parts accumulated.

Well after a successful RTTC for me personally and the car, we are even happier and shocked at just how bad the motor was effed up on day 2... we knew it wasn't good but the final score was this:

4 broken pistons
3 bent valves

I'll just let these pictures do the rest of the talking.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_002-6.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_003-4.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_004-8.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_005-4.jpg

The block is actually in decent shape and was only bored .020 over so it's good life left for someone, just not me. Will be figuring out what parts are for sale and what might be reused (if any).

I'll just say I don't plan on being "underpowered" with this next motor. :woot:

[intocarss]

Sorry that happen. It looks like a nitrous eng gone wrong.

[Vegas69]

Nice work Gordon:D Your tune had to be way off to break that many pistons. My guess is your nascar exhaust caused your engine to go lean and that was your overheating issues. The decibel level kept you from hearing the extreme pinging noise. ha ha The piston debris bent the valves. It's a miracle that you didn't spread that thing all over El Toro.

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_002-6.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_003-4.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_004-8.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_005-4.jpg



DETECTIVE: Whoever did this didn't just dismantle it. I mean, they took their time, they had fun. They were very systematic. They went out of their way to gouge the sides of every piston, and the turbo was separated from the housing and shoved right up the exhaust pipe.

ELAINE: Uhh

JERRY: Wait a second. Turbo? I didn't have a turbo.

DETECTIVE: Your car's not a turbo?

JERRY: No, it's a nine-hundred S. (happy) It's a turbo, Elaine, a turbo!

ELAINE: (sobbing happiness) It's a tu-hur-bo.

[torino420]

wow...nice carnage! :willy:

[Sieg]

Nice work Dave! How are the heads and are they going on the new motor?

FWIW - Todd's assessment sounds about right.

[GregWeld]

Fire the tuner dude!

[Chad-1stGen]

Whoa!!! I'm with Todd, how did you not grenade that thing all over El Toro's track lol?

I'm sure it was disappointing to to see the carnage when you started disassembling that thing Dave. Good luck on scrounging parts for the new build!

[sik68]

Whoa!!! I'm with Todd, how did you not grenade that thing all over El Toro's track lol?

I'm sure it was disappointing to to see the carnage when you started disassembling that thing Dave. Good luck on scrounging parts for the new build!

Dave had his builder already started on the new power plant before this happened. "Well that's what you get for building a new motor" says Todd. :lol:

[intocarss]

How much total timing did you have and what gas? Kinda hard to tell in the pics, that lil half moon shiny area in the valve pockets is where the valves were hitting

[Flash68]

Yep, good stuff! :thumbsup:

Didn't think about the boom tube causing a lean condition but that makes sense. We shoulda thrown some race gas mix in the tank like we do at track days, but then then it wouldn't be a "street car" for RTTC. :lol:

In all seriousness, it was not too bad of a result. And I knew I was on borrowed time for awhile. We hoped the pistons were the only real damage and the heads are being disassembled/inspected now but besides the valves didn't look too bad.

I need to decide whether to sell the parts individually or throw the motor back together and sell as a long block. The new motor will only use some of the accessories of this motor - all key parts/internals will be new/different/slightly used stuff.

And the new motor will be built and tuned on the dyno by a PROFESSIONAL. :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Dave had his builder already started on the new power plant before this happened. "Well that's what you get for building a new motor" says Todd. :lol:

This was all my fault I know. :lol:

How much total timing did you have and what gas? Kinda hard to tell in the pics, that lil half moon shiny area in the valve pockets is where the valves were hitting

36* usually.... 91 octane usually and for RTTC.....

[Sieg]

One thing is certain...........You're a pro a building suspense. :D

[Flash68]

One thing is certain...........You're a pro a building suspense. :D

I just like to have pictures go with my new details. :D

[6D9]

Cant wait to here the details on the new sbc...:thumbsup: Are you staying solid roller?

[Flash68]

Cant wait to here the details on the new sbc...:thumbsup: Are you staying solid roller?

Most definitely! And already have the shaft rockers. :thumbsup:

[6D9]

Most definitely! And already have the shaft rockers. :thumbsup:

Right on!

[sixnina]

Yep, good stuff! :thumbsup:

Didn't think about the boom tube causing a lean condition but that makes sense. We shoulda thrown some race gas mix in the tank like we do at track days, but then then it wouldn't be a "street car" for RTTC. :lol:

In all seriousness, it was not too bad of a result. And I knew I was on borrowed time for awhile. We hoped the pistons were the only real damage and the heads are being disassembled/inspected now but besides the valves didn't look too bad.

I need to decide whether to sell the parts individually or throw the motor back together and sell as a long block. The new motor will only use some of the accessories of this motor - all key parts/internals will be new/different/slightly used stuff.

And the new motor will be built and tuned on the dyno by a PROFESSIONAL. :thumbsup:
So the new engine builder has a Dino as well, we need more clues,lol and I'm sure I could find some use for those internal parts should you decide to sell in pieces.:)

[Flash68]

So the new engine builder has a Dino as well, we need more clues,lol and I'm sure I could find some use for those internal parts should you decide to sell in pieces.:)

Dyno and the works. It's a bad ass shop I assure you. I am supposed to go there Tues and I'll shoot some pics and get details.

I am in contract to buy a house so that has the priority at the moment. :thumbsup:

What parts are you looking for?

[DFRESH]

It's time for a Procharger---totally practical and necessary.

Call me and let me know about the house--that's great news!

D parts hoarder FRESH, tier 13.

[sixnina]

Dyno and the works. It's a bad ass shop I assure you. I am supposed to go there Tues and I'll shoot some pics and get details.

I am in contract to buy a house so that has the priority at the moment. :thumbsup:

What parts are you looking for?

Yeah congrats on the house! Does that mean BMF will be finding a new home too? Are you keeping the heads and valve train for the new motor.
Thanks Shane,

[intocarss]

Pettis???

[Ron in SoCal]

Yeah congrats on the house! Does that mean BMF will be finding a new home too? Are you keeping the heads and valve train for the new motor.
Thanks Shane,

Pettis???

Dave the suspense is killin' the Lat-G faithful. You have a duty...yeah I said it, a duty to take some pics and post some build plans and shop info. Don't make come up there and do some detective work. I've heard Rich can be bought for a few cold ones....:lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Pettis???

If you can find him, I'd go with

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/nascar_cheats_02_0810-md.jpg


...no sharper mind than Smokey Yunick.

NASCAR, it's like a weed Flash, like a weed.



:lol:

[Vegas69]

He ain't that smart...

[intocarss]

If you can find him, I'd go with



...no sharper mind than Smokey Yunick.

NASCAR, it's like a weed Flash, like a weed.



:lol:

I met Smokey years ago at a meet and greet . He is the man.

[Flash68]

Ha, thanks for caring guys... didn't know my little old non-LSx, non-aluminum block, non-Pro Touring motor build would pique so much interest. :)

Pettis? Nah, too far. I wanted a guy within an hour drive max.

Tuesday should be my reveal day. God I sound like I'm popular or something. :willy: My name ain't Renner.

Tmrw is a big day on the house deal... if this inspection goes well we should be lookin pretty good on closing this one. Pretty excited. About the only thing that could take my mind off the car and motor for awhile (sorry Rich!). :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Hope all goes well with the house. :thumbsup:

[intocarss]

OK you have until Tuesday, and congrats on the new home!! Pics of the garage please

Who says non LXs, non alum SBC's aren't pro-touring engs??

[GregWeld]

You know you're a p ***** y when a house becomes more important than a new motor....

[Vegas69]

Like it matters, he couldn't sell an ice cream cone to a 1st grader.

[Flash68]

Who needs enemies when I got friends like you fockers. :lol:

Thanks guys.... if it works out the motor/car ain't dead.... just going side burner for a minute or 2. :unibrow:

And yes it has a 2 car garage finally. :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Yeah congrats on the house! Does that mean BMF will be finding a new home too? Are you keeping the heads and valve train for the new motor.
Thanks Shane,

Thanks Shane.... BMF will still live in Gilroy... I may be getting a garage... but it will still be missing tools and skills... I ain't shy about admitting that. :lol:

Only parts being reused as of now look like water pump, balancer, and maybe the MSD stuff.... that's it.

[intocarss]

Who needs enemies when I got friends like you fockers. :lol:



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/special.jpg

[Sieg]

You know you're a p ***** y when a house becomes more important than a new motor....

You know you're married when a house becomes more important than a new motor....

Fixed :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/special.jpg

Best laugh I've had all day...and I'm on the 'Least Coast!

[sixnina]

Thanks Shane.... BMF will still live in Gilroy... I may be getting a garage... but it will still be missing tools and skills... I ain't shy about admitting that. :lol:

Only parts being reused as of now look like water pump, balancer, and maybe the MSD stuff.... that's it.

Sounds good then if valve train rev kit are available when you get through all this I'm in
Thanks Dave


Shane

[Bucketlist2012]

You know you're married when a house becomes more important than a new motor....

Fixed :D

My Car Modifications cost me a new Kitchen and a new car for the wife...

I did not see that coming...:willy:

Flash..Congrats on the new Home....And the new engine will be better than before..We always build them faster the next time...

:lateral:

[Flash68]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/special.jpg

Now that's funny. Thanks for that. :D

You know you're married when a house becomes more important than a new motor....

Fixed :D

I'm excited to get back in a house.... I'm one of the very few I know who correctly timed the RE market these past 10 years. :unibrow:

Sounds good then if valve train rev kit are available when you get through all this I'm in
Thanks Dave


Shane

I'd like to sell the heads complete with valvetrain ideally. We'll see.

My Car Modifications cost me a new Kitchen and a new car for the wife...

I did not see that coming...:willy:

Flash..Congrats on the new Home....And the new engine will be better than before..We always build them faster the next time...

:lateral:

Thanks, but I cancelled the house deal today.... not comfortable with the inspection and the significant work performed on it the past 12 months.

Here was a shot of the monstrosity of a support structure for the parking pad adjacent to the house/garage. And this pic doesn't even do it justice.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_007-3.jpg

Totally bummed because it was a killer property but it is the right move for us. Back into the trenches I go..... :captain:

[GregWeld]

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE --- That looks like a real expensive termite dinner!

[fleetus macmullitz]

See if you can get on the waiting list at Weld Towers, a dee lux apartment in the sky.

[Ron in SoCal]

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE --- That looks like a real expensive termite dinner!

Not just that, but a potential nightmare in earthquake country. Good decision Dave...

No transaction is better than a bad one. GL in your search Dave...:thumbsup:

[Flash68]

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE --- That looks like a real expensive termite dinner!

It's actually BEETLE country up there that does the damage, but yeah... just too much at risk here.

See if you can get on the waiting list at Weld Towers, a dee lux apartment in the sky.

Do I need earthquake insurance at Weld Towers? :D

Not just that, but a potential nightmare in earthquake country. Good decision Dave...

No transaction is better than a bad one. GL in your search Dave...:thumbsup:

You got that right. Thanks Ron.

[Bucketlist2012]

Now that's funny. Thanks for that. :D



I'm excited to get back in a house.... I'm one of the very few I know who correctly timed the RE market these past 10 years. :unibrow:



I'd like to sell the heads complete with valvetrain ideally. We'll see.



Thanks, but I cancelled the house deal today.... not comfortable with the inspection and the significant work performed on it the past 12 months.

Here was a shot of the monstrosity of a support structure for the parking pad adjacent to the house/garage. And this pic doesn't even do it justice.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_007-3.jpg

Totally bummed because it was a killer property but it is the right move for us. Back into the trenches I go..... :captain:

I don't think "Weezie" would let George Buy that House either...That looks crazy...

Back in the trenches you go...The right one will come along....:cheers:

It still sucks and is hard work..But buying the wrong one is worse..

More on the Engine..:thumbsup:

[badmatt]

Dave,

http://www.racingjunk.com/Circle-Track/2512243/388-Dart-complete-Aluminum-707-HP-.html

dude said its 12:1, that is all.

[Flash68]

Dave,

http://www.racingjunk.com/Circle-Track/2512243/388-Dart-complete-Aluminum-707-HP-.html

dude said its 12:1, that is all.

I like your thinking. :unibrow:

Where are those dyno sheets?

[CrossRamRich]

Yes, unfortunately we leaned out on the road course and detonated, we had a nice 830 holley at the shop that could have saved the headache, oh well, hindsight.:rolleyes: Cheers to Dave for the great job keeping an eye on the gauges and doing some awesome driving.:cheers: We still had a great time and it was awesome to have all three of the Road Touring Custom cars in the shootout.:unibrow:See you guys at Buttonwillow:thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Totally bummed because it was a killer property but it is the right move for us. Back into the trenches I go..... :captain:There will be another, that pic looks like more liability than asset. I'd rather use all that timber to build a shop than support a house. :D

[intocarss]

Tuesday should be my reveal day.
:thumbsup:

HEY NICKEL TITS, TUESDAY'S HERE...SO OUT WITH IT!!!!! :willy: ;)

Sorry the house didn't work out, maybe have Tracky build ya one just the way you like it!

[Flash68]

Yes, unfortunately we leaned out on the road course and detonated, we had a nice 830 holley at the shop that could have saved the headache, oh well, hindsight.:rolleyes: Cheers to Dave for the great job keeping an eye on the gauges and doing some awesome driving.:cheers: We still had a great time and it was awesome to have all three of the Road Touring Custom cars in the shootout.:unibrow:See you guys at Buttonwillow:thumbsup:

Great job of watching the water temp go to 240? :lol:

Hindsight? Shiiiaatt... we shoulda done a lot of things before a carb change... Don't worry. This next motor will be tuned and dialed in by a pro so you and I can't possibly screw it up. :thumbsup:

There will be another, that pic looks like more liability than asset. I'd rather use all that timber to build a shop than support a house. :D

There's hundreds of houses like that in the Oakland Hills. That don't scare me by itself. It was the cumulative of many issues at the end. But yeah... there will be another. :cheers:

HEY NICKEL TITS, TUESDAY'S HERE...SO OUT WITH IT!!!!! :willy: ;)

Sorry the house didn't work out, maybe have Tracky build ya one just the way you like it!

Nickel tits... :lol: I'll be heading over in a bit.. :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

You go there and I'll be here waiting for an update!

[Sieg]

This next motor will be tuned and dialed in by a pro so you and I can't possibly screw it up. :thumbsup:

http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums/images/smilies/whistling.gif

[intocarss]

angi1vwUkQc

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[sik68]

I know he really likes his Ford stripes, so I bet he is going to 'match the curtains with the drapes' and install a Windsor :lol:

[intocarss]

I know he really likes his Ford stripes, so I bet he is going to 'match the curtains with the drapes' and install a Windsor :lol:

Gee thanks for reminding him dude. Now I bet he went to Bed Bath and Beyond or Ikea insted of posting what he should be posting here

DAVE you got 1 hour or I go Yellowbullet on your azz!! Are ya :_paranoid yet?? :P

[Sieg]

Probably stalling to make THE motor announcement on the 1000th post on his thread. :D

[sixnina]

Probably stalling to make THE motor announcement on the 1000th post on his thread. :D

Well here's one more to get us a little closer come on Dave spill the beans!!!

[Flash68]

You guys are frickin hilarious.... thanks for helping make this thread the polar opposite of the tech-heavy and tuning-heavy thread of Todd's. :D

Dropped off some more parts today and solidified most of the build plan today. The builder/shop is Mike Blackstone @ Watson Racing & Engineering in Concord, CA. An awesome facility to say the least. 26,000 sq ft full of top shelf parts and machines, yet is a small mom and pop type shop with only 3 employees including Ben Watson the owner. Pete is the general machinist. Not sure how they crank out so much killer stuff but they do. 10, 12, 15, and 18 degree heads on the shelf, blocks of all kinds, and they do Pro Stock, Stock Eliminator, circle track, road race motors... not much they don't do.

Mike has already spent a few hours with me schooling me on 18 degree stuff and engine building in general. He's a super nice guy and already treats me like I've already spent $20k with him before.

Mike is a big fan of Keith Dorton (as am I) and is a big proponent of the 394 SBC, so that's what we are going with after telling him what parts I already have and what my intentions are. Here's my parts list, most of which has been acquired over past couple months:

-PBM iron race block, 350 mains, 4.155 bore, .903 bushed lifter bores, splayed caps on all 5 mains, bore cam tunnel to BBC cam size of 50mm
-3.625 stroke crank (looking for one)
-6" rods (have a set - may use, may not)
-Dished piston to achieve no more than 11:1 (Mike will spec and order)
-GM Bowtie 18 degree heads (being checked and flowed by Mike soon to verify 373cfm flow sheet provided by seller :unibrow:) (ebay)
-GM Bowtie 18 degree intake (ebay)
-Jesel shaft rockers 1.6/1.6 ratio (ebay)
-Morel/Roush Yates .903 roller lifters w/ .180 offset intake (ebay)
-Stainless 18 degree 1-3/4" stepped to 1-7/8" headers w/ merge collectors (they're a tad rough, but scored these on Craigslist in Nascar country for $350!)
-Holley 830HP (I bought awhile ago off Yellowbullet but not sure if will be used)
-Solid Roller spec'd by Mike

I am leaning toward dry sump, but Mike suggested and also likes a wet sump with an external oil pump for what I have and on a budget, so I need to look into that.

When it's all said and done we are shooting for near 700 hp at no more than 7000 rpm on 91 octane. Mike says the 18 degree heads are so damn efficient that they don't need the cubes the 23 degree stuff does, but they can be a little more tuning sensitive, another reason it will be dialed in correctly. And they like a lot less timing than a 23 degree I guess - like 32 degrees. I plan on him dyno tuning it in his shop after assembly. You get the dyno room for the whole day whether it takes 3 hours or 8 hrs to get her dialed in. :woot:

I gotta thank our resident good samaritan and butt of many jokes, Greg Weld. He offered to sponsor me for some stuff after I blew up at RTTC and I am greatly appreciative. He supports this niche a lot thru his time and money and spreads it around to help many people. Ok enough about that guy. Thanks G-Dub. I'll put your decal on my car now (see below). :D

Ok here's the pics so far. Hope I did not disappoint.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF4005.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF4011.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF4009.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF4016.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF3997.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/catrods.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/photo_008-2.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/31ZSBAe2IrL_SL500_AA300_.jpg

[Flash68]

Oh, and here's just a couple of numerous killer motors I saw at the shop.

BBC 1200hp
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF4018.jpg

427 SBC 800hp "fvck up" that came in for them to "fix". :thumbsup:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/DSCF4020.jpg

[Sieg]

We've been http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/hurryup.gif and you (http://patch29.smugmug.com/photos/16878235-Ti.gif) missed the deadline by 1:08.............NICKEL TITS :yes: :D

That motor is so you and your car! :thumbsup:

I imagine you've thoroughly enjoyed the quest researching and acquiring parts and getting to know the builder. :thumbsup:

Looking forward to this one. :woot:

[Vegas69]

So this is nascar. :unibrow: Sounds like a solid plan for your Winston Cup car. I'm surprised you couldn't find a wealthier sponsor with your crew chief and driving skill. :lol:

That baby should be all you need to have some fun. :D :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

So this is nascar. :unibrow: Sounds like a solid plan for your Winston Cup car. I'm surprised you couldn't find a wealthier sponsor with your crew chief and driving skill. :lol:

That baby should be all you need to have some fun. :D :unibrow:



I only back the best.

It's the way we roll.


:rofl:


I see the builder knows how to do a REAL BBC.....