1968 Camaro "Badmotorfinger" v2.2

[fleetus macmullitz]

No affiliation...

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lol

[DBasher]

Just curious, what does CorteX charge for storage?
:D

[Nick@HPM]

Looks like a great build, hopefully the owner finishes the car!!

:D

[Sieg]

Looks like a great build, hopefully CorteX finishes the car!!

:D
Fixed it for ya. :D

Even the owner wouldn't want the owner finishing it for him. :sieg:

[Flash68]

Refreshing with pictures so I can remember exactly which Camaro this build is about.....:hello:

Um.. thanks Bash. I forgot what it used to look like too. That was a fun little photo shoot. Local photography student was looking for a muscle car on the Porsche/Exotic forum of all places and I was nearby him so we met up. And yes he asked me to bring some gear and pose like that. :D

I loved it the way it was as well as what you are doing to it! It always creates that visceral reaction when I see it. You just KNOW it's badass.

Appreciate that, Neil. I miss my little screamin 377 cuz of you! :thumbsup:

Those old pics...#mustamissedallthatwinning

:ohsnap:

You know how to bring it Skipper.

Flash,
Sorry missed your question until now about the flairs
Yes he is in Morgan Hill
I have an Email and Contact
One of my Superintendents when by
his place and he is still glassing on the weekends

I can send you his contacts
if you want

Bob

No worries, Bob. I actually talked to Mike and we are exchanging some emails now. Thanks! :thumbsup:

Just curious, what does CorteX charge for storage?
:D

I dunno, you'd have to ask the owner of the red 65 Fastback there that I have not see make one iota of progress in over a year. :whenitsdone:

Looks like a great build, hopefully the owner finishes the car!!

:D

Yeah! that SOB better finish it! :twak:

Fixed it for ya. :D

Even the owner wouldn't want the owner finishing it for him. :sieg:

Yeah! That too! :computer:

[Flash68]

Just trying to breathe some "life" into this non race car thread... LOL

Think the real G (Garrett, not Gae) will want to go to Cars & Coffee with his old old man when this is finally done?

[DBasher]

Dave I realize I don't know you like some around here, the friendly ribbing is just that, no disrespect meant. I read the short version of your build on CC and even though it's a camaro I'm pretty stoked to see this thing out turning laps!

For the love of God man! Get this thing done! Or at least go look at it with a camera and post some more details!
:thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Dave I realize I don't know you like some around here, the friendly ribbing is just that, no disrespect meant. I read the short version of your build on CC and even though it's a camaro I'm pretty stoked to see this thing out turning laps!

For the love of God man! Get this thing done! Or at least go look at it with a camera and post some more details!
:thumbsup:

Bash - it's all good man. No disrespect felt. I actually enjoy the ribbing and.. err.. motivational posts here. :lol:

CorteX does things right and safe and have done these things before, so I know we'll get there. And with my son here now I don't have the idle time to dwell on things like I did before.

I'll be heading up there again soon....

[DBasher]

Bash - it's all good man. No disrespect felt. I actually enjoy the ribbing and.. err.. motivational posts here. :lol:

CorteX does things right and safe and have done these things before, so I know we'll get there. And with my son here now I don't have the idle time to dwell on things like I did before.

I'll be heading up there again soon....

I had to clear the air before you went off the reservation like that guy with the Torino....:lmao:

Kids are the best! I've got two boys that still love hangin out with me! I took my oldest to Bonneville a few years back, just him and I road trippin in a 56 Dodge, he still brings up moments of that trip 4 years later....You know you're doing it right when they'd rather go to Bonneville then Disneyland!

You're in good hands with CorteX, just time and money now. I gotta ask though, do you really know what you're getting yourself into? Big power, big sticky tires...it's going to be a frickin monster! Are you ready?

[Flash68]

I had to clear the air before you went off the reservation like that guy with the Torino....:lmao:



No quitters in this thread. :)


Kids are the best! I've got two boys that still love hangin out with me! I took my oldest to Bonneville a few years back, just him and I road trippin in a 56 Dodge, he still brings up moments of that trip 4 years later....You know you're doing it right when they'd rather go to Bonneville then Disneyland!



That's awesome. I can't wait to do stuff like that with my son.


I gotta ask though, do you really know what you're getting yourself into? Big power, big sticky tires...it's going to be a frickin monster! Are you ready?

Does anyone ever really know? :lol:

[DBasher]

Does anyone ever really know? :lol:

Look what happened with GW, that lil 211 scared him all the way back to a Miata! Oh sure he says its for his friends....poor guy, I feel for him, I really do. :lmao:

[Vegas69]

Surprised his EGO even fits in a Miata.:lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I am not even sure where to start here... first, as many of you know, I've been battling some off and on fatigue and health issues for awhile now and it has kept me from making 3 track days since September. But I was determined to give it a shot at RTTC and do as much as I could. Well I not only made it through, I felt pretty good the whole time and still feed good now that I'm back. It is quite a medical mystery if you ask me, but I will just call RTTC exactly what the doctor ordered! :thumbsup:

Now, on to car stuff... I'll start by saying Badmotorfinger now has a bad motor... literally. Something happened mid morning on Friday on the road course. Not sure if overheating caused the problem, or a yet to be identified problem caused the overheating. Water temp was over 240 as I was pulling off the course and the coolant was empty. Not cool. First tow of he day back to the pits.

After a full body cavity search could not find an external problem so it's likely internal. Excessive blow-by is now occurring at this point at an alarming rate. :D

Button it up and head back out and see what happens. Power is down a bit but not terribly. Oil pressure a little low but acceptable. Make some more runs and see what happens. Went to the autoX and knocked over some cones. Man I usually don't hit an excessive amount of cones but I was on fire this weekend. :lol:

Back on the road course later in the afternoon and ran a short session but didn't get my clutchless rev matching downshift right and got the tranny stuck between gears. Tow #2 back to the pits.

Quickly got back out on track and went again.... it got a little hot and I came back in to cool and oil pressure was down to about 4 lbs. Yes, 4 lbs. Not cool again. It was mid afternoon now and decided to shut it down for the day and put some thicker oil in it for Saturday. Found some straight 50 at AutoZone and that was the life blood for another day. Oh and the battery was now dead. Add that to the shopping list.

Got back out Saturday and surprisingly the motor held its own for most of the day. Still down on power but pulling pretty good and would stumble a bit a times (also related to the float bowl adjustments for that speed stop dealio). Blow by is borderline hilarious at this point and I am getting texts and strangers coming up to me asking if my car is okay. One asked if I saw the smoke coming out of the engine... How could I not?! :lol:

After the motor injury, I was just wanted good clean runs in all 3 events and try to make the shootout. My car is terribly setup for that speed stop squared event so I knew I wouldn't make it far but I just wanted to make it, and I did. We are all anxious to see how we stack up and hopefully they post times soon. I've checked my videos and I have to say I am pretty happy with my estimated times based on my motor problems. The road course was and should be my best event and then the autocross and then I stunk up the speed stop drag race slalom deal. Was a blast though.

First report on recently installed mods:

Corbeau seats - fit great, feel great

Oil cooler system - TBD... oil temps reached high 280-290 when water temp was hitting 240+. Need to figure that out.

T101A trans - AWESOME. By the end of Saturday I was getting pretty decent at downshifting while left foot braking and right foot rev matching. Did experience some wicked wheel hop when timing was off on downshifts, but the car would stay straight as long as I was aimed straight.

Boom Tube exhaust - love it. Not too loud surprisingly due to the car chemistry inserts and it drew a lot of attention for both looks and sound. The GoPro captures the sound pretty good but definitely louder in person. :)

Carbotech brake pads - great pad when they are hot. They shined on the road course. Really liked them. Not sure if they helped a whole lot on autoX. Didn't feel like it even though I tried to drag the brakes quite a bit for that event and the drag/slalom/brake deal... oh yeah, as I drug the brakes people kept checking and asking what's wrong with my car again. LOL

Hotchkis front sway bar - maybe the best mod in past year. Made the turn in excellent and felt like 100 lbs were removed from front of car. I am actually excited to do the Goodguys Peanut in 2 weeks... if the motor cooperates with some oil pressure. :thumbsup:

Ok, enough commentary already. On to the videos. These look like my best times. I never put together a super clean road course lap and I think I look slow in this vid, but the time seems to be decent from what I've seen.

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And an AutoX run on Friday. Starts at about :58

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We had a blast of a weekend and I can't thank enough my good friend Rich Bermea of Road Touring Customs and his sidekick Frankie Judd for their track support and good times. These guys are great guys with big hearts and make it possible for me to do this stuff. And that Frankie can drive too. :thumbsup:

Looks like it's time to start finishing my new motor plans that were not ready yet.... good thing I already started collecting parts :)

9Mf-I7noSg0

You can always count on the classics to tell it like it is!


#mondaysR4winning

[preston]

system is overheating, oil pressure is dropping, massive blowby.

Why are you still running that engine ? Saves a lot of money to tear something down to rebuild vs spinning a bearing and throwing a rod and destroying crank, block, and everything else. Ask me how I know. I wouldn't run that motor anywhere but to a garage bay.

[Flash68]

You can always count on the classics to tell it like it is!


#mondaysR4winning

Ha, thanks for the Monday morning motivator Skip. I look back at old videos sometimes to convince myself this ran and I drove it at one time.

system is overheating, oil pressure is dropping, massive blowby.

Why are you still running that engine ? Saves a lot of money to tear something down to rebuild vs spinning a bearing and throwing a rod and destroying crank, block, and everything else. Ask me how I know. I wouldn't run that motor anywhere but to a garage bay.

It was an acceptable euthanasia deal to me at the time... with that engine... at that "event" with some unknown/unverified parts that were supposedly over 10 years old.

No way I'd try that move with my new engine.

[Ron in SoCal]

system is overheating, oil pressure is dropping, massive blowby.

Why are you still running that engine ? Saves a lot of money to tear something down to rebuild vs spinning a bearing and throwing a rod and destroying crank, block, and everything else. Ask me how I know. I wouldn't run that motor anywhere but to a garage bay.

Yeah! Junk that SB2 DG and go LS. :smiley_smack:

[Flash68]

Yeah! Junk that SB2 DG and go LS. :smiley_smack:

Gimme a few more years Ronnie..... :D

[Ron in SoCal]

Gimme a few more years Ronnie..... :D

Hardcore runs deep :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

Hardcore runs deep :D

#truth


lol

[glassman]

^^^^^^ Hey, its out isnt it? #redneckftw

[Vegas69]

Hardcore runs deep :D

I think its pretty apparent that he's a slow learner. :action-smiley-027:

[Matt@BOS]

Originally Posted by Flash68
I am not even sure where to start here... first, as many of you know, I've been battling some off and on fatigue and health issues for awhile now and it has kept me from making 3 track days since September. But I was determined to give it a shot at RTTC and do as much as I could. Well I not only made it through, I felt pretty good the whole time and still feed good now that I'm back. It is quite a medical mystery if you ask me, but I will just call RTTC exactly what the doctor ordered!

Now, on to car stuff... I'll start by saying Badmotorfinger now has a bad motor... literally. Something happened mid morning on Friday on the road course. Not sure if overheating caused the problem, or a yet to be identified problem caused the overheating. Water temp was over 240 as I was pulling off the course and the coolant was empty. Not cool. First tow of he day back to the pits.

After a full body cavity search could not find an external problem so it's likely internal. Excessive blow-by is now occurring at this point at an alarming rate.

Button it up and head back out and see what happens. Power is down a bit but not terribly. Oil pressure a little low but acceptable. Make some more runs and see what happens. Went to the autoX and knocked over some cones. Man I usually don't hit an excessive amount of cones but I was on fire this weekend.

Back on the road course later in the afternoon and ran a short session but didn't get my clutchless rev matching downshift right and got the tranny stuck between gears. Tow #2 back to the pits.

Quickly got back out on track and went again.... it got a little hot and I came back in to cool and oil pressure was down to about 4 lbs. Yes, 4 lbs. Not cool again. It was mid afternoon now and decided to shut it down for the day and put some thicker oil in it for Saturday. Found some straight 50 at AutoZone and that was the life blood for another day. Oh and the battery was now dead. Add that to the shopping list.

Got back out Saturday and surprisingly the motor held its own for most of the day. Still down on power but pulling pretty good and would stumble a bit a times (also related to the float bowl adjustments for that speed stop dealio). Blow by is borderline hilarious at this point and I am getting texts and strangers coming up to me asking if my car is okay. One asked if I saw the smoke coming out of the engine... How could I not?!

After the motor injury, I was just wanted good clean runs in all 3 events and try to make the shootout. My car is terribly setup for that speed stop squared event so I knew I wouldn't make it far but I just wanted to make it, and I did. We are all anxious to see how we stack up and hopefully they post times soon. I've checked my videos and I have to say I am pretty happy with my estimated times based on my motor problems. The road course was and should be my best event and then the autocross and then I stunk up the speed stop drag race slalom deal. Was a blast though.

First report on recently installed mods:

Corbeau seats - fit great, feel great

Oil cooler system - TBD... oil temps reached high 280-290 when water temp was hitting 240+. Need to figure that out.

T101A trans - AWESOME. By the end of Saturday I was getting pretty decent at downshifting while left foot braking and right foot rev matching. Did experience some wicked wheel hop when timing was off on downshifts, but the car would stay straight as long as I was aimed straight.

Boom Tube exhaust - love it. Not too loud surprisingly due to the car chemistry inserts and it drew a lot of attention for both looks and sound. The GoPro captures the sound pretty good but definitely louder in person.

Carbotech brake pads - great pad when they are hot. They shined on the road course. Really liked them. Not sure if they helped a whole lot on autoX. Didn't feel like it even though I tried to drag the brakes quite a bit for that event and the drag/slalom/brake deal... oh yeah, as I drug the brakes people kept checking and asking what's wrong with my car again. LOL

Hotchkis front sway bar - maybe the best mod in past year. Made the turn in excellent and felt like 100 lbs were removed from front of car. I am actually excited to do the Goodguys Peanut in 2 weeks... if the motor cooperates with some oil pressure.

Ok, enough commentary already. On to the videos. These look like my best times. I never put together a super clean road course lap and I think I look slow in this vid, but the time seems to be decent from what I've seen.



And an AutoX run on Friday. Starts at about :58



We had a blast of a weekend and I can't thank enough my good friend Rich Bermea of Road Touring Customs and his sidekick Frankie Judd for their track support and good times. These guys are great guys with big hearts and make it possible for me to do this stuff. And that Frankie can drive too.

Looks like it's time to start finishing my new motor plans that were not ready yet.... good thing I already started collecting parts


Dave, look! you were once sort of capable of bringing the tech! although statements like, "Excessive blow-by is now occurring at this point at an alarming rate," really sounds more like something Ron would get in trouble for writing about on CC.

[Ron in SoCal]

That wasn't trouble, that was a$$hole blow-by. :lol:

But yeah, way to bring the tech DG!

[intocarss]

:y0!:

[Flash68]

This thread is getting way too techie for me. Can we go back to the way it used to be? :headspin:

And what happened to the Rontourage? Did they abandon ship? :underchair:

That little 377 was the engine that could.... until I killed it. I blame Rich! He pushed me to the edge! "let's throw some 20w50 in it... she'll be fine!" :lol:

[Flash68]

I think its pretty apparent that he's a slow learner. :action-smiley-027:

I don't think I've learned a dang thing actually. :trophy-1302:

[fleetus macmullitz]

And what happened to the Rontourage? Did they abandon ship? :underchair:



We underestimated BadRonz star power...he doan need us.

[GregWeld]

I don't think I've learned a dang thing actually. :trophy-1302:



Except....how to write checks.....

[Flash68]

Except....how to write checks.....

I got 2 big things in common with you Greg.... good luck and marrying well! :D

:cheers: (hold the gin of course)

[fleetus macmullitz]

Except....how to write checks.....

Good practice for anyone looking to track a car...lol

:G-Dub:

[GregWeld]

I got 2 big things in common with you Greg.... good luck and marrying well! :D

:cheers: (hold the gin of course)




It beats working that's for sure!! LOL





Good practice for anyone looking to track a car...lol

:G-Dub:




Well stated!!

[Chad-1stGen]

Throw back Sunday?

Back before Dave was married, he used his car to pick up chicks... true story

http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah189/chad-1stgen/Famous%20Dave_zpsmbon73rr.jpg

Taken at a real race track with a running Camaro that wants to be a Mustang...

[carbuff]

Taken at a real race track with a running Camaro that wants to be a Mustang...

You sure it wasn't just rolled off the trailer in the background of the picture? :)

[Chad-1stGen]

You sure it wasn't just rolled off the trailer in the background of the picture? :)

Not a surprising question. Though the big surprise is that I can say definitively that Dave drove the car on track including kicking my ass...

[fleetus macmullitz]

Who did the picking up?

#competesintheprojackstandclass

[GregWeld]

I think you're mistaken Skippa! Isn't that a selfie of Vegas69?? Dude's been juicing a few more carrots than I think he probably should be... ya think??

[Vegas69]

Not a surprising question. Though the big surprise is that I can say definitively that Dave drove the car on track including kicking my ass...

Not to worry, he was kind of young and showered back in those days. :relax: :D Now that he has something to live for, he'll be on the brakes before the first pylon.

[Flash68]

Throw back Sunday?

Back before Dave was married, he used his car to pick up chicks... true story

http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah189/chad-1stgen/Famous%20Dave_zpsmbon73rr.jpg

Taken at a real race track with a running Camaro that wants to be a Mustang...

Ha, that is awesome... :cheers:

You sure it wasn't just rolled off the trailer in the background of the picture? :)

It's possible. So long ago I can't say for sure... :headscratch:

Not a surprising question. Though the big surprise is that I can say definitively that Dave drove the car on track including kicking my ass...

Oh man I can't wait for our rematch down there. We have both added just a few mods in the past 4 years.. :D (4 years? Really?!) :computer:

I think you're mistaken Skippa! Isn't that a selfie of Vegas69?? Dude's been juicing a few more carrots than I think he probably should be... ya think??

:lol: Brutal!

Not to worry, he was kind of young and showered back in those days. :relax: :D Now that he has something to live for, he'll be on the brakes before the first pylon.

You might be right. Sounds like a good Gaetano-ish excuse to have in the bag anyway.

[fleetus macmullitz]

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[fleetus macmullitz]

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We like that long running BMF drama too...

:bump:

[intocarss]

:whistling:

[Vegas69]

Skip, I'm surprised you remember the hit show when this train wreck started.:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Skip, I'm surprised you remember the hit show when this train wreck started.:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:tv_happy:


Todd,

I think steady watching of Melrose Place could mess any build up. I wonder what it would take to get Flash to admit to it?


h_Sw6by7pig


:D

[glassman]

All it takes is time and money...oh wait, are we talking about cars or kids?

[Sieg]

Shhhhh! This thread is sleeping.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Shhhhh! This thread is sleeping.

True dat.

But unfortunately all those (skewed) page views #'s caught the eye of...

[Flash68]

:lol:

You guys suck.

[Vegas69]

Married with children.. THE END

[Flash68]

Married with children.. THE END

Close. But it's just the end of this chapter.

The next one begins now.... stay tuned. Or not.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/50C149F8-89EA-4C78-9237-40C69D88E293_zps3vuhsnba.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/50C149F8-89EA-4C78-9237-40C69D88E293_zps3vuhsnba.jpg.html)

[DBasher]

Hell yea!

:cheers:

[GregWeld]

Married UP with children.. THE END



Hey Todd.... Fixed it for ya! LOL

[fleetus macmullitz]

Saw this the other day and thought of this 'project update' thread. :rolleyes:

#hairymess

[Sieg]

But it's just the end of this chapter.

The next one begins now.... stay tuned. Or not.



This is turning out to be a quite a novel. :D

[WSSix]

You tease! Only one picture? At least the car is sitting on the ground. It looks pretty badass I think. Congrats!

[glassman]

Not to be too critical here, i dont know if slicks work well on dirt...sure would be fun to try....

[intocarss]

Close. But it's just the end of this chapter.

The next one begins now.... stay tuned. Or not.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/50C149F8-89EA-4C78-9237-40C69D88E293_zps3vuhsnba.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/50C149F8-89EA-4C78-9237-40C69D88E293_zps3vuhsnba.jpg.html)

:theresa: :theresa: :theresa: :theresa: :theresa: :theresa: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Chad-1stGen]

Why is everyone so excited? Are you guys really that happy that Dave had decided to abandon his car in some dirt lot?

[57hemicuda]

A collaboration of great minds are about to converge upon this great ride. This is going to be a great weekend as long as Hurricane Joaquin doesn't bring down our flights. I'd hate for something named Joaquin to be the thing that kills me.

[Sieg]

i dont know if slicks work well on dirt...
JerDawgy,

Edumakate the man would ya. :rules:

[GregWeld]

A collaboration of great minds are about to converge upon this great ride. This is going to be a great weekend as long as Hurricane Joaquin doesn't bring down our flights. I'd hate for something named Joaquin to be the thing that kills me.




I see beer in your future.....



You guys have a good time and don't get killed.

[Vegas69]

So we've established the car is a mutt and CA is in a drought. :lol:

I hope you are getting ready to beat up some pavement and rubber with that bad boy....

[GregWeld]

So we've established the car is a mutt and CA is in a drought. :lol:

I hope you are getting ready to beat up some pavement and rubber with that bad boy....




So many cars built --- so few actually used....

[intocarss]

Not to be too critical here, i dont know if slicks work well on dirt...sure would be fun to try....

JerDawgy,

Edumakate the man would ya. :rules:

If you got the guts anything can work on dirt. Although the words "slip sliding away" come to mind :drive: I'm willing to give it a try

[glassman]

I was being facisious lol...i know the "turn right to go left" routine from my hi flyin' race car days at 6 years old on a big wheel going down a steep driveway onto the sidewalk...but I though this Camaro thingy was for the "asphalt" tracks

[rustomatic]

Am I supposed to sense drama here, or just a large bill for what looks like a mostly empty trailer?

If Ron the human hotwrench is getting involved however, this thing might actually experience progress, so long as he does not require water . . .

[GregWeld]

Am I supposed to sense drama here, or just a large bill for what looks like a mostly empty trailer?

If Ron the human hotwrench is getting involved however, this thing might actually experience progress, so long as he does not require water . . .



Big pow wow meeting on the east coast this weekend... with said owner and ANOTHER new builder (I've lost count)... so stay tuned for another couple of years of nothingness.

[GregWeld]

Stay tuned for pictures of various micro brews consumed, and perhaps some action video of garbage can racing....

[Chad-1stGen]

Big pow wow meeting on the east coast this weekend... with said owner and ANOTHER new builder (I've lost count)... so stay tuned for another couple of years of nothingness.


Ah damn! I thought maybe all the fab was done and it was going back together to be driven :(

[GregWeld]

I think headlights and windshield wipers are a California requirement for being "street legal"... This is a Street Car, right?? LOL







http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/50C149F8-89EA-4C78-9237-40C69D88E293_zps3vuhsnba.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/50C149F8-89EA-4C78-9237-40C69D88E293_zps3vuhsnba.jpg.html)

[rustomatic]

On a positive note, Dave has now put about 3000 miles on (or rather under) the car this year . . .

[DBasher]

At first I was like :thumbsup: and :flag2: :cheers: :clap: hoping for some shake down pictures or video.
Looks like a few more years of :G-Dub: :BlahBlah: :fluffy: :happy23: :bunny:

Dave, I think you should right a book. Titled "How to convince your wife that this IS the way you build a car". You must be a frickin genius!

Like sands through the hour glass.....

[Sieg]

Maybe DG & RD should go in on a stacking trailer so they can take their cars for a drive together?

[sixnina]

Come on DG spill the details!!

[XLexusTech]

Hey Dave any pictures of how you ran the brake lines in the subframe?

[GregWeld]

Come on DG spill the details!!



I think the only work that took place was "liver extension".... Bottle opening 101... and a lot of BS and bench racing. But that's all fun too I guess.

[fleetus macmullitz]

With the 'Good Ron' doing some of the heavy lifting, that could put a 'W' in the #win column.


Or, just wave a :waveflag:


lol

[intocarss]

I'm a DORK, I thought the car was done and being delivered to DG... WTF is going on with it now!?

[dhutton]

Another shop/builder change. Damn... :popcorn2:

Don

[GregWeld]

I'm a DORK, I thought the car was done and being delivered to DG... WTF is going on with it now!?

I think they might be able to save the headlights.

[Flash68]

Car arrived safely in North Carolina.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/53E0AE33-0B1C-47A7-A12D-9FD24C80F12D_zpsdesndboj.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/53E0AE33-0B1C-47A7-A12D-9FD24C80F12D_zpsdesndboj.jpg.html)

And to save valuable Lateral G bandwidth, just follow Payton's Camaro thread to see what mine should pretty much resemble.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/37DCC8B6-75C8-4101-B901-184BD8E6FA4F_zpsuduaprqk.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/37DCC8B6-75C8-4101-B901-184BD8E6FA4F_zpsuduaprqk.jpg.html)

I can't thank Payton enough for pushing just the right amount on me for awhile now to get my car to Jim Pettigrew to make things right and order Thrift Shop Camaro package #002.

Thanks for all the caring in this thread. fellas :lol:

[57hemicuda]

Sorry Dave, but after seeing the car on here for so long, and seeing the floor pans look like the picture, with sooo many signatures on the quilt work. Somebody had to put a stop to it. LOL

https://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/Cars/AMC/i-rqgJHm4/0/L/quilt-L.png

[GregWeld]

So.... I'm confused. Where exactly are the mufflers going to be located? Under the drivers feet or behind his helmet? :G-Dub:

[DBasher]

I'm confused also, are you having the suspension redone again or is Jim more of a cage, floor, sheet metal fab guy?

Car does look good all put together.
:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Can you only imagine how much money I saved by spending a lousy $40 grand on the Mustang purchase...... hahahahahahahahahaha

A complete suspension upgrade only took a month or two and included buying 2 complete sets of Formula 43 wheels and 8 new Hoosiers... big brakes - spares - two tool boxes with special tools and spacers... and I'm still half of what this unfinished project cost. :poke: :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

You guys are confused? Not as confused as I am. :lol:

Greggers, your math is off. Probably more so on your own car :lol: But I do hear 245's and leaf springs are expensive. :G-Dub: The biggest thing I've lost in the last couple years is progress.

But your math is perfectly sound when you talk about you and Gaetano running neck and neck. :peepwall: :D

[Flash68]

Dave, I think you should right a book. Titled "How to convince your wife that this IS the way you build a car". You must be a frickin genius!

Like sands through the hour glass.....

My wife is in support of this project 100%... for now. :peepwall:

Hey Dave any pictures of how you ran the brake lines in the subframe?

Sorry, there are none.

I think the only work that took place was "liver extension".... Bottle opening 101... and a lot of BS and bench racing. But that's all fun too I guess.

I had to switch to light beer to hang with Payton and Ron.

I'm confused also, are you having the suspension redone again or is Jim more of a cage, floor, sheet metal fab guy?

Car does look good all put together.
:thumbsup:

Suspension should be mostly fine. Will take a closer look at that later. But if you've seen Payton's thread you can see that Jim is a very talented fabricator. I was impressed with the pictures Payton has shown us but the work in person is just incredible. Payton's car is so sweet I literally pointed to it and said "just give me that."

:cheers:

[Sieg]

My wife is in support of this project 100%... for now. :peepwall:
Winning!

I had to switch to light beer to hang with Payton and Ron.
Refreshing for a change wasn't it. :mock:


Suspension should be mostly fine.
Correct.........once the decoupled rear end installation is finished.

Payton's car is so sweet I literally pointed to it and said "just give me that."

:cheers:
Finally, a tangible game plan!!!

Payton, just how much are you charging him for the rendering?

:welcome3:

[Flash68]

Correct.........once the decoupled rear end installation is finished.




Not going there. I like the torque arm and my exhaust needs are different from Payton's so I think it'd be hard to pull off anyway.

[Sieg]

Not going there. I like the torque arm and my exhaust needs are different from Payton's so I think it'd be hard to pull off anyway.

Dude........but you've proven change is constant. :sieg:


:underchair:

[intocarss]

:whenitsdone:

[Flash68]

Dude........but you've proven change is constant. :sieg:


:underchair:

I am aiming to disprove the law of physics which states an object set in motion stays in motion. :whenitsdone:

:whenitsdone:

Hey Jer! It's gonna get fun really quick pal! :thumbsup:

[57hemicuda]

No matter what they say Dave, yours will be much mo awesomer then there's.

[intocarss]

I am aiming to disprove the law of physics which states an object set in motion stays in motion. :whenitsdone:



Hey Jer! It's gonna get fun really quick pal! :thumbsup: I'M GLAD TO HEAR IT!!!!!

[Sieg]

I am aiming to disprove the law of physics which states an object set in motion stays in motion. :whenitsdone:

:popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2:

:thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

When do you fire the crew chief? Hire Sutton with a date to finish the car and GET OUT OF THE WAY. :thankyou:

[awr68]

Ok, I've been absent for a little while. What page shows the current state and plan of attack?

[WSSix]

Dave, I really hope this is the final push to having the car built the way you've always wanted. I look forward to the progress pictures.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

:whenitsdone:

oh it is fun, up until that point you realized its no faster that what you started with. :tv_happy:

[Flash68]

No matter what they say Dave, yours will be much mo awesomer then there's.

Ha, I know I got you on my team Ron. :cheers:

When do you fire the crew chief? Hire Sutton with a date to finish the car and GET OUT OF THE WAY. :thankyou:

That's not the stupidest thing you've ever said (that's a separate long list) but that's not how this one plays out.

If you met or saw what Jim Pettigrew has done and can do, you'd understand.

oh it is fun, up until that point you realized its no faster that what you started with. :tv_happy:

Thankfully not everyone is destined to be like Gaetano. :lol:

Dave, I really hope this is the final push to having the car built the way you've always wanted. I look forward to the progress pictures.

Thank you, and just seeing Payton's car there solidified my confidence in this decision.

In hindsight, regarding the the last 2 shops I worked with, I don't think they were bad decisions at the time. One seemed riskier than the other and I kinda knew that going in, but I was willing to take that risk at the time. It happens. Even Weld doesn't always make the right decision. See Steve's Auto Repair job on his '32. (Sorry Greg - just for context!)

One way or another, this is the last stop. :waveflag:

[intocarss]

:idea:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5240440916.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5256828325.html

[Flash68]

:idea:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5240440916.html

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5256828325.html

Jer - I have a son ... not a daughter. Sheesh.

:sieg:

[Sieg]

Jer - I have a son ... not a daughter. Sheesh.

:sieg:
Ouch http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/images/smilies/touche.gif

[intocarss]

Jer - I have a son ... not a daughter. Sheesh.

:sieg:

My bad :idea:

http://www.racingjunk.com/Pro-Modified/182528517/New-complete-race-ready-Promod-Camaro.html

[Vegas69]

I guess I finally found that fine line. :lol:

I do hope to see you out terrorizing the field here soon.. Oh ya, and wiping Gaetano's clock.

[GregWeld]

Even Weld doesn't always make the right decision. See Steve's Auto Repair job on his '32. (Sorry Greg - just for context!)

One way or another, this is the last stop. :waveflag:



Totally with ya on that one!

[Flash68]

My bad :idea:

http://www.racingjunk.com/Pro-Modified/182528517/New-complete-race-ready-Promod-Camaro.html

Now that's a race car.

I guess I finally found that fine line. :lol:

I do hope to see you out terrorizing the field here soon.. Oh ya, and wiping Gaetano's clock.

:cheers: daddio.

Gaetano? He isn't even on the target list. :stirthepot:

[57hemicuda]

This is a target rich enviroment

[fleetus macmullitz]

Heard this..."It's not how you start, it's how you finish." :thumbsup:

If it was easy, they wouldn't call it 'pro-touring'.


:D

[Neil B]

This car has been bad ass since Day 1. I can't wait to see the full vision come together.

[Flash68]

This is a target rich enviroment

I am truly an easy target. This I know.

Heard this..."It's not how you start, it's how you finish." :thumbsup:

If it was easy, they wouldn't call it 'pro-touring'.


:D

It might not be touring. And it certainly doesn't appear to be pro. :D

This car has been bad ass since Day 1. I can't wait to see the full vision come together.

Thanks Neil. :thumbsup:

[glassman]

I fully believe its still "touring" from a trailer, just not as fun...

[fleetus macmullitz]

It might not be touring. And it certainly doesn't appear to be pro. :D


Yer now in the 'pro-hiring' class. :weld:

#Pettigrew

#finallysomewinning


:D

[71RS/SS396]

Sorry Dave, but after seeing the car on here for so long, and seeing the floor pans look like the picture, with sooo many signatures on the quilt work. Somebody had to put a stop to it. LOL

https://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/Cars/AMC/i-rqgJHm4/0/L/quilt-L.png

You delinquents were in town and didn't let me know?!?! :poke:

[57hemicuda]

We were trying to stay out of prison Tim. LOL

[MX145]

Dave it's been a while so I thought I would check in and say hi. Any updates :poke:

[Ron in SoCal]

Dave told me he's decided building cars is not for him. From now on, it's interior decorating, cooking class and keezers :lol:

Sieg is helping with the first two.

:cheers:

[MX145]

Those things do take priority ;)

I saw the pic of the car in front of the trailer and got excited. I must have spent a couple hours going back a 100 pages and I'm still confused as to the current status of BMF but who am I to raz Dave. Im one of the worst at posting updates.

[WSSix]

Car is in NC with Payton's unless it's been moved again. Is it Pettigrew that's doing the builds?

I'm just going to sit back and continue to be patient and hopeful that the build goes smoothly cause this is one badass ride.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Dave it's been a while so I thought I would check in and say hi. Any updates :poke:

0g_oKBjeAOA

[GregWeld]

Dave told me he's decided building cars is not for him. From now on, it's interior decorating, cooking class and keezers :lol:

Sieg is helping with the first two.

:cheers:




Siegs cars all run and drive - so he has plenty of spare time on his hands.

[DBasher]

I'm just trying to help.....

[Chad-1stGen]

I'm just trying to help.....

who that thing is awesome! Any info about it?

[jeds]

I think it's a rendering from this guy..

https://khyzylsaleem.artstation.com/

[Richio1]

I think it's a rendering from this guy..

https://khyzylsaleem.artstation.com/

Wow. He does some pretty awesome stuff.

[GregWeld]

Even a rendering would be an improvement on what we're getting out of this thread.

[Flash68]

I'm happy to report it's almost done! :action-smiley-027:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg.html)

[96z28ss]

Putting the car back to stock?

[Flash68]

Putting the car back to stock?

Oh no. That would make way too much sense Bob. :lol:

I should have some updated pics soon.

[gerno]

Looks like someone figured out how to use a cutting tool, that's a start....

Why are you leaving what's left of the floor anyways. Just cut it too and put the body on a tube chassis

[carbuff]

Why are you leaving what's left of the floor anyways. Just cut it too and put the body on a tube chassis

Ding ding ding!!! :stirthepot: :idea:

[Neil B]

I'm happy to report it's almost done! :action-smiley-027:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg.html)

You should have sold it to me when it had the stock chassis and the 377. : )

[Flash68]

Looks like someone figured out how to use a cutting tool, that's a start....

Why are you leaving what's left of the floor anyways. Just cut it too and put the body on a tube chassis

Ding ding ding!!! :stirthepot: :idea:

Come on you Texans... give me just a tad of credit.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg.html)


You should have sold it to me when it had the stock chassis and the 377. : )

Hey Neil.. Yeah I should have done a lot of things. :lol: :cheers:

[DBasher]

The exhaust is never going to fit....back to the drawing board.

:thumbsup: :cheers:

[califconstruct]

I'm happy to report it's almost done! :action-smiley-027:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg.html)

Holy ****balls!! :ohsnap: .. Looks like Joan did!

"Progress always involves risks. You can't steal second base and keep your foot on first." - Frederick Wilcox

:thumbsup:

[gerno]

[QUOTE=Flash68;623510]Come on you Texans... give me just a tad of credit.

Dave - I think we already give you entirely too much credit....:snapout:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg.html)

[fleetus macmullitz]

This thing is gonna haul.

:P

[Neil B]

Come on you Texans... give me just a tad of credit.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg.html)




Hey Neil.. Yeah I should have done a lot of things. :lol: :cheers:

I'm coming out to California for a ride when it's done!

[WSSix]

I want to meet you in NC when it's done. Payton too. You guys are too close for me not to make the trip to NC once these cars are finished. Always glad to see progress being made on the car, Dave.

[Flash68]

The exhaust is never going to fit....back to the drawing board.

:thumbsup: :cheers:

We have a plan. Thanks Dan. (hey that rhymes and stuff)

Holy ****balls!! :ohsnap: .. Looks like Joan did!

"Progress always involves risks. You can't steal second base and keep your foot on first." - Frederick Wilcox

:thumbsup:

Love that quote Art. :D

[QUOTE=Flash68;623510]Come on you Texans... give me just a tad of credit.

Dave - I think we already give you entirely too much credit....:snapout:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg.html)

Ouch. That hurts. :hitaxeonthehead:

This thing is gonna haul.

:P

Hauling some pizza FTW! :lol:

I'm coming out to California for a ride when it's done!

Absolutely Neil. That would be swell. :)

I want to meet you in NC when it's done. Payton too. You guys are too close for me not to make the trip to NC once these cars are finished. Always glad to see progress being made on the car, Dave.

I have only had a great time while in Charlotte. Payton is the hostess with the mostess.

Thanks for the words, and come on and meet up with us for sure! :cheers:

[Beach Cruiser]

wow, I take a break for a little while and not check in and progress actually happens!

[GregWeld]

At 10,000 lbs.... it might be heavier than a Tornio.... There! "Credit given".







Come on you Texans... give me just a tad of credit.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg.html)

[Flash68]

wow, I take a break for a little while and not check in and progress actually happens!

Mills, a guy can only go backwards or sideways for so long.

At 10,000 lbs.... it might be heavier than a Tornio.... There! "Credit given".

"Hey, look at that cute little yellow Mustang I just passed... awwww"

:D

[GregWeld]

Mills, a guy can only go backwards or sideways for so long.



"Hey, look at that cute little yellow Mustang I just passed... awwww"

:D



You referencing the old Mustang or the new one?? They could be a little different but could be the same color.

[Flash68]

You referencing the old Mustang or the new one?? They could be a little different but could be the same color.

Will the new one be as cute as the old one?

#cubicdollarsFTW

:lol:

[Beach Cruiser]

Where in Charlotte is the shop located? My son lives in Concord, next time I'm down maybe I'll have time to check stuff out. Glad to see you're moving ahead, and if you are going to clone Payton's car you will indeed have one bad a$$ ride!

[Flash68]

Where in Charlotte is the shop located? My son lives in Concord, next time I'm down maybe I'll have time to check stuff out. Glad to see you're moving ahead, and if you are going to clone Payton's car you will indeed have one bad a$$ ride!

I don't really know where it is actually. :sieg:

Payton goes by there fairly often still as his car is there. You should hook up with him (think you already have before maybe?) next time you're coming. And bring a keg. :D

[Flash68]

and if you are going to clone Payton's car you will indeed have one bad a$$ ride!

With Jim and Payton involved.... and then the recent addition of Ron Sutton... and I think I am on a good path. :whenitsdone:

[Chad-1stGen]

With Jim and Payton involved.... and then the recent addition of Ron Sutton... and I think I am on a good path. :whenitsdone:

So why does it look like a tank chassis here:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg


Instead of a bad ass race car chassis like this one?
http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah189/chad-1stgen/Dusold%20chassis_zpsib3w8ufo.jpg

:guns: :poke: ha ha

[Flash68]

Pettigrew is the fab guy. 20 years Nascar fab experience at Hendrick. Built Jimmy Johnson's 1st gen Camaro (1st with SB2.2 engine, then with LS9).

Sutton is the setup/suspension consultant... well, everyone knows Sutton by now.

Payton is the assistant PM (should be the lead PM but I digress). Weld called him a loser but I do not agree.

I think we'll be just fine over here with our little street car project.

:action-smiley-027:

[GregWeld]

Pettigrew is the fab guy. 20 years Nascar fab experience at Hendrick. Built Jimmy Johnson's 1st gen Camaro (1st with SB2.2 engine, then with LS9).

Sutton is the setup/suspension consultant... well, everyone knows Sutton by now.

Payton is the assistant PM (should be the lead PM but I digress). Weld called him a loser but I do not agree.

I think we'll be just fine over here with our little street car project.

:action-smiley-027:




I assumed everyone would know I was joking of course. Well.... except you.

[Flash68]

I assumed everyone would know I was joking of course. Well.... except you.

:lol:

Just post your new build already will ya.

:poke:

:G-Dub:

[GregWeld]

:lol:

Just post your new build already will ya.

:poke:

:G-Dub:




FAB53 nor JAKES has gotten back to me yet.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'm happy to report it's almost done! :action-smiley-027:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg.html)

My fav part of the build so far...brings back some great boyhood memories.

:thankyou:

[Flash68]

FAB53 nor JAKES has gotten back to me yet.

Contact Rob. He may be able to help you with that.

I think there's a Torino joke in there somewhere.

[57hemicuda]

Dave, somebody tore your quilt. And they ripped it real bad.



http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg

[Vegas69]

I don't have the heart..:lol:

[57hemicuda]

I hope everyone realizes that this is a perimeter chassis. It is built this way because it is easy to square the perimeter during the building process. Once the front and rear stubs are finished being welded in, most of the middle will get cut out, lightening it back up.


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg

[GregWeld]

If I've learned ANYTHING from doing car crap for awhile now.... cutting is easy - anyone can do it. Cutting with an actual plan on how to put it all back together.... that's where the talent and experience start to kick in. LOL

I'm not saying "I" have that skill or talent (although I've learned a few tricks here and there) -- I'm saying -- be careful when you just see someone's work that has involved nothing more than the cutting portion. You want to see how it was cut - but more - you want to see how it was put back together.

[GregWeld]

I hope everyone realizes that this is a perimeter chassis. It is built this way because it is easy to square the perimeter during the building process. Once the front and rear stubs are finished being welded in, most of the middle will get cut out, lightening it back up.



Please don't attempt to take away our ability to dump in this thread......

[57hemicuda]

Dave's ugly, I hope I fit in better

[fleetus macmullitz]

Please don't attempt to take away our ability to dump in this thread......



EEcXp8_I8CY

[Sieg]

Bummer........I missed the tar and feathering. :shakehead:

[Flash68]

Dave, somebody tore your quilt. And they ripped it real bad.



http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg

I hate it when that happens. Except when it's necessary. Like here.

I don't have the heart..:lol:

Let er rip buddy! No matter what happens, I will never be as bad as Rob and have my thread closed from commenting. :lol:


If I've learned ANYTHING from doing car crap for awhile now.... cutting is easy - anyone can do it. Cutting with an actual plan on how to put it all back together.... that's where the talent and experience start to kick in. LOL

I'm not saying "I" have that skill or talent (although I've learned a few tricks here and there) -- I'm saying -- be careful when you just see someone's work that has involved nothing more than the cutting portion. You want to see how it was cut - but more - you want to see how it was put back together.

I've learned that the hard way. Lessons of life. I remember you mentioning that to me several times within the past couple years. I think I finally get it. :lostmarbles:

Please don't attempt to take away our ability to dump in this thread......

:bitchslap:

Dave's ugly, I hope I fit in better

#strangerdanger

Bummer........I missed the tar and feathering. :shakehead:

The season is all year long for that here. :warning:

EEcXp8_I8CY

:cheers:

[Flash68]

I'm digging this view

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg.html)

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'm digging this view

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg.html)

It is now truly...

:P

[GregWeld]

YEP!! Still on jackstands...... after all these years.



LOL












http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg.html)

[DOOM]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lostmarbles: :goofy: :hitaxeonthehead: :hairpullout:

[califconstruct]

:confused59:

Looks like the trunk key lock still works!!

:omg:

You know, I still have that other car I'm working on, if you need a temp home for that sb2.. to get some seat time in..:idea:




.

[96z28ss]

Hey I have given you a fair share of crap and sarcasm with your project.
I got to give you some props. Man you just won't give up, props for still sticking with it.

[ironworks]

Hey I have given you a fair share of crap and sarcasm with your project.
I got to give you some props. Man you just won't give up, props for still sticking with it.


You're like the Bernie Sander of car building. Everyone gets a free education.


Not sure what the back story is now, but man this is like the Texas two step.

[67zo6Camaro]

FAB53 nor JAKES has gotten back to me yet.


Not sure what the back story is now, but man this is like the Texas two step.

Ok I will bite at the statements above.
I can't believe I'm about to ask this, but I would like to hear the back story now also. Including all 4 prior shops.

[WSSix]

Just give me enough heads up to when you're planning to come this way again Dave and I'll see what I can do. Might even be able to twist Scott's arm and have him come up with the Chevelle, too.

[fleetus macmullitz]

This build...in summation.

FUvxRjYqjEQ


#whippingpost

:D

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Ok I will bite at the statements above.
I can't believe I'm about to ask this, but I would like to hear the back story now also. Including all 4 prior shops.

It wood have been 5 but I told him that I don't own a router. :thankyou: :lol: :lol:

[GregWeld]

Ok I will bite at the statements above.
I can't believe I'm about to ask this, but I would like to hear the back story now also. Including all 4 prior shops.




Really? Now you chime in? You sure you really want to stir that pot?

[Ron in SoCal]

You're like the Bernie Sander of car building. Everyone gets a free education.

Not sure what the back story is now, but man this is like the Texas two step.

It wood have been 5 but I told him that I don't own a router. :thankyou: :lol: :lol:

Really? Now you chime in? You sure you really want to stir that pot?

Man this is like walking down memory lane! :lmao:

:cheers:

[glassman]

Weld the jackstands too it, put some castors on it, Fred flintstone it down your driveway....worth a shot...just get another p car already...

ps, i'm not talking sh!t, cause when its done, i'll either be (A) dead or (B) getting my arse kicked by this beast..

[Flash68]

YEP!! Still on jackstands...... after all these years.



LOL

I get around.

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lostmarbles: :goofy: :hitaxeonthehead: :hairpullout:

Took the words right out of my mouth.

:confused59:

Looks like the trunk key lock still works!!



You know, I still have that other car I'm working on, if you need a temp home for that sb2.. to get some seat time in..:idea:




.

The trunk lock was off a bit. So I fixed it.

Can't you give me another insightful quote like last time? :lol:


Hey I have given you a fair share of crap and sarcasm with your project.
I got to give you some props. Man you just won't give up, props for still sticking with it.

Is that a back handed compliment? :computer: :lol:

I've dished my share of crap sandos to you Bob. :cheers:

You're like the Bernie Sander of car building. Everyone gets a free education.


Not sure what the back story is now, but man this is like the Texas two step.

I like Texas, but not their dancing.

I could have had it at one shop for 5 years but I decided to spread the love around. I'm kinda EOE like that.


Just give me enough heads up to when you're planning to come this way again Dave and I'll see what I can do. Might even be able to twist Scott's arm and have him come up with the Chevelle, too.

That sounds like a good time. Likely be Sometime in Q1 I will make another trip.

This build...in summation.




#whippingpost

:D

#someonesgottadoit

Man this is like walking down memory lane! :lmao:

:cheers:

An oldie but a goodie?

Weld the jackstands too it, put some castors on it, Fred flintstone it down your driveway....worth a shot...just get another p car already...

ps, i'm not talking sh!t, cause when its done, i'll either be (A) dead or (B) getting my arse kicked by this beast..

If my driveway was in North Carolina you might be on to something. The P car idea ain't half bad.

I definitely hope it's B..... Assman. :action-smiley-027: :lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'm digging this view

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg.html)

All kidding aside I agree, cool pic. :thumbsup:


#thenosecretsbuild

[Vegas69]

What's next? The crusher? :thankyou:

[Ricochet]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lostmarbles: :goofy: :hitaxeonthehead: :hairpullout:

Holy **** Dave! Haven't checked out your thread in awhile and I see this? 1 step forward and then 9 steps back? Well, people can alot of things about our 2 projects... But one thing is common... We never give up!! LMAO!!

[ironworks]

All kidding aside I can guarantee you have learned alot of lessons through this process. Some lessons about the cars and some lessons on people or builders to be exact and I think you do the whole forum a favor to not be so politically correct. You don't have to name names. But others can and need to learn from other experiences. I think it helps the whole process.

I can guarantee you know 100 times more stuff now, then from when we spoke on the phone what seems like 100 years ago after selling your Porsche. There is a difference in bashing people and trying to rub their nose into all the problems and just hoping both parties become better people.

This industry has lot of customers who want the moon but really have no clue what it takes to get there. And builders who think they are everything to everyone. I see alot of builders who WAY WAY over promise and I truly think they think they can do it (inexperience). And you have customers who believe any story even though the builder has never produced anything because the want something so bad ( like the stripper at the dance club who says she loves you ). The builder just went to Harbor Freight with a 1000 bucks the next days opens a shop. Then you have the customer who has read every build thread and know they want all these parts and it should make him MARK STEILOW or DANNY POPP. OR they just carried away in their fantasy and dont even add up the parts total. Simple Math.

My guess of your history from the side lines is

1st shop just not cutting it.
2nd shop was just over their head for what you wanted
3rd shop way over promised
4th shop made other money doing bigger fancier stuff and you were back burnered with a project you were never happy with.
5th shop looks more your speed

I may have too many or not enough shops listed but this seems to be what I remember. I only say this as there is a huge difference between reality and how it works. And you have to be an expert by now or alteast learned some lessons you can share.

Every shop has a range of what they are good at. Alot of shops don't recognize that should say NO to something they suck, because they need cash flow or hate to see a job go somewhere else. And I think every shop serves a different level of expectation. Some shops are Sizzler and some The Steak house at the WYNN in Vegas. Each shop serves a client base. Its the guys who misrepresent what they serve or charge for that are the issue. And customers who have no idea what reality is.

[dontlifttoshift]

^^^^

Donny and 12,000,000 others like this post.

[DBasher]

A wise old man told me, "better lucky than smart"....I just hope you're lucky! :lol:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

What's next? The crusher? :thankyou:

:clap: :lmao:

I was thinking it would make a great BBQ smoker combo for the back yard. :getout:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

All kidding aside I can guarantee you have learned alot of lessons through this process. Some lessons about the cars and some lessons on people or builders to be exact and I think you do the whole forum a favor to not be so politically correct. You don't have to name names. But others can and need to learn from other experiences. I think it helps the whole process.

I can guarantee you know 100 times more stuff now, then from when we spoke on the phone what seems like 100 years ago after selling your Porsche. There is a difference in bashing people and trying to rub their nose into all the problems and just hoping both parties become better people.

This industry has lot of customers who want the moon but really have no clue what it takes to get there. And builders who think they are everything to everyone. I see alot of builders who WAY WAY over promise and I truly think they think they can do it (inexperience). And you have customers who believe any story even though the builder has never produced anything because the want something so bad ( like the stripper at the dance club who says she loves you ). The builder just went to Harbor Freight with a 1000 bucks the next days opens a shop. Then you have the customer who has read every build thread and know they want all these parts and it should make him MARK STEILOW or DANNY POPP. OR they just carried away in their fantasy and dont even add up the parts total. Simple Math.

My guess of your history from the side lines is

1st shop just not cutting it.
2nd shop was just over their head for what you wanted
3rd shop way over promised
4th shop made other money doing bigger fancier stuff and you were back burnered with a project you were never happy with.
5th shop looks more your speed

I may have too many or not enough shops listed but this seems to be what I remember. I only say this as there is a huge difference between reality and how it works. And you have to be an expert by now or alteast learned some lessons you can share.

Every shop has a range of what they are good at. Alot of shops don't recognize that should say NO to something they suck, because they need cash flow or hate to see a job go somewhere else. And I think every shop serves a different level of expectation. Some shops are Sizzler and some The Steak house at the WYNN in Vegas. Each shop serves a client base. Its the guys who misrepresent what they serve or charge for that are the issue. And customers who have no idea what reality is.

I have learned a lot through HIS process, hell, I think a lot of us have learned from this train wreck. :underchair: :whenitsdone: #playin

You should see the look on peoples faces when I tell them that I don't build show cars.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'm happy to report it's almost done!

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg.html)

As currently configured, you lead all of lat-g in price per pound of car. :wow:

So you could say...

pBWcRqPesws

[gerno]

I found your next build here in Austin for sale on Craigslist. Should I go pick it up. Based on your current project I'll give you a deal and deliver it for only $30k. Sound good?

https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5352750252.html

[GregWeld]

I found your next build here in Austin for sale on Craigslist. Should I go pick it up. Based on your current project I'll give you a deal and deliver it for only $30k. Sound good?

https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5352750252.html




You're too late!!! MARIO (DOOM) started with a lot less than that - for a lot more money!!! :snapout: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Vegas69]

I'm betting "Big Juan" would knock a few bucks off... :lol:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I found your next build here in Austin for sale on Craigslist. Should I go pick it up. Based on your current project I'll give you a deal and deliver it for only $30k. Sound good?

https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5352750252.html

car is no longer for sale, he's doing an LS Juan swap.

[Vegas69]

:lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Since it's already getting a 'lite' cosmetic makeover, I'll just leave this here. :P

[GregWeld]

That Camaro is just a street car. Dave is attempting to build a bonafide race car. HUGE difference. HUGE. <think "Pretty Woman" movie>





Since it's already getting a 'lite' cosmetic makeover, I'll just leave this here. :P

[rustomatic]

I get this. Before last summer, I didn't really, but now, I get it. It's how my Falcon wound up as an empty shell (after too many stages of "bolt-on" improvements). Now it has a chassis made of more new and bad ideas . . .

Best of luck in filling the shell with something that works for you.:grouphug:

I'm digging this view

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSC_4873_zpsom31yffl.jpg.html)

[Flash68]

All kidding aside I can guarantee you have learned alot of lessons through this process. Some lessons about the cars and some lessons on people or builders to be exact and I think you do the whole forum a favor to not be so politically correct. You don't have to name names. But others can and need to learn from other experiences. I think it helps the whole process.

I can guarantee you know 100 times more stuff now, then from when we spoke on the phone what seems like 100 years ago after selling your Porsche. There is a difference in bashing people and trying to rub their nose into all the problems and just hoping both parties become better people.

This industry has lot of customers who want the moon but really have no clue what it takes to get there. And builders who think they are everything to everyone. I see alot of builders who WAY WAY over promise and I truly think they think they can do it (inexperience). And you have customers who believe any story even though the builder has never produced anything because the want something so bad ( like the stripper at the dance club who says she loves you ). The builder just went to Harbor Freight with a 1000 bucks the next days opens a shop. Then you have the customer who has read every build thread and know they want all these parts and it should make him MARK STEILOW or DANNY POPP. OR they just carried away in their fantasy and dont even add up the parts total. Simple Math.

My guess of your history from the side lines is

1st shop just not cutting it.
2nd shop was just over their head for what you wanted
3rd shop way over promised
4th shop made other money doing bigger fancier stuff and you were back burnered with a project you were never happy with.
5th shop looks more your speed

I may have too many or not enough shops listed but this seems to be what I remember. I only say this as there is a huge difference between reality and how it works. And you have to be an expert by now or alteast learned some lessons you can share.

Every shop has a range of what they are good at. Alot of shops don't recognize that should say NO to something they suck, because they need cash flow or hate to see a job go somewhere else. And I think every shop serves a different level of expectation. Some shops are Sizzler and some The Steak house at the WYNN in Vegas. Each shop serves a client base. Its the guys who misrepresent what they serve or charge for that are the issue. And customers who have no idea what reality is.

Pretty good post Rodg.. I'll respond in kind when I'm back from Tahoe.

Stay thirsty my friends :cheers:

[awr68]

Since it's already getting a 'lite' cosmetic makeover, I'll just leave this here. :P

I like it! Looks great!

[awr68]

Dave, I look at the current pic of your car and think it looks like great progress and a move in the right direction! Hammer down and get through the design and build!

Oh and have a great time in Tahoe...one of our favorite spots!

[intocarss]

I'm happy to report it's almost done! :action-smiley-027:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg.html)

Umm umm umm

[preston]

So why does it look like a tank chassis here:
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/2A5E12F5-2431-42B0-A0F1-47E5B6B2626E_zpssk9p4kvo.jpg


Instead of a bad ass race car chassis like this one?
http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah189/chad-1stgen/Dusold%20chassis_zpsib3w8ufo.jpg

:guns: :poke: ha ha

Do you have a source for more pictures of that chassis and build up ?
I like that chassis.
I searched for any pictures of Dusold's car when it was being mentioned after Optima but didn't find much.

[DFRESH]

I'm happy to report it's almost done! :action-smiley-027:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/06-DSC_4843_zpsq9ltmzxx.jpg.html)

Well, the car appears lighter than before. Let's look at the positives here boys.

[Jr]

Do you have a source for more pictures of that chassis and build up ?
I like that chassis.
I searched for any pictures of Dusold's car when it was being mentioned after Optima but didn't find much.

Looks like a nice setup.

[Spiffav8]

Do you have a source for more pictures of that chassis and build up ?
I like that chassis.
I searched for any pictures of Dusold's car when it was being mentioned after Optima but didn't find much.

He's pretty active on Instagram. Not sure how much you will find there, but it's a start.

Well, the car appears lighter than before. Let's look at the positives here boys.

Always see the sliver lining don't you. Well done brother.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Always see the sliver lining don't you. Well done brother.

'BW Dub' truly does Curtis. :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Weld the jackstands too it, put some castors on it, Fred flintstone it down your driveway....worth a shot...just get another p car already...

ps, i'm not talking sh!t, cause when its done, i'll either be (A) dead or (B) getting my arse kicked by this beast..

Another back handed compliment. I am starting to like these. :D

What's next? The crusher? :thankyou:

Now that would be rock bottom. I think I can make it there if I try hard enough.

Holy **** Dave! Haven't checked out your thread in awhile and I see this? 1 step forward and then 9 steps back? Well, people can alot of things about our 2 projects... But one thing is common... We never give up!! LMAO!!

Yeah I am something else huh. :lol: Hopefully I will make the 8 steps forward soon to get back to even Steven.

Oh, and you are one of my few inspirations for NEVER QUITTING! :cheers:

A wise old man told me, "better lucky than smart"....I just hope you're lucky! :lol:

I know that man. And yes he is old.

I get this. Before last summer, I didn't really, but now, I get it. It's how my Falcon wound up as an empty shell (after too many stages of "bolt-on" improvements). Now it has a chassis made of more new and bad ideas . . .

Best of luck in filling the shell with something that works for you.:grouphug:

Thanks Rusty. I might need to rethink my situation if you "get me" :lostmarbles:

[Flash68]

All kidding aside I can guarantee you have learned alot of lessons through this process. Some lessons about the cars and some lessons on people or builders to be exact and I think you do the whole forum a favor to not be so politically correct. You don't have to name names. But others can and need to learn from other experiences. I think it helps the whole process.

I can guarantee you know 100 times more stuff now, then from when we spoke on the phone what seems like 100 years ago after selling your Porsche. There is a difference in bashing people and trying to rub their nose into all the problems and just hoping both parties become better people.

This industry has lot of customers who want the moon but really have no clue what it takes to get there. And builders who think they are everything to everyone. I see alot of builders who WAY WAY over promise and I truly think they think they can do it (inexperience). And you have customers who believe any story even though the builder has never produced anything because the want something so bad ( like the stripper at the dance club who says she loves you ). The builder just went to Harbor Freight with a 1000 bucks the next days opens a shop. Then you have the customer who has read every build thread and know they want all these parts and it should make him MARK STEILOW or DANNY POPP. OR they just carried away in their fantasy and dont even add up the parts total. Simple Math.

My guess of your history from the side lines is

1st shop just not cutting it.
2nd shop was just over their head for what you wanted
3rd shop way over promised
4th shop made other money doing bigger fancier stuff and you were back burnered with a project you were never happy with.
5th shop looks more your speed

I may have too many or not enough shops listed but this seems to be what I remember. I only say this as there is a huge difference between reality and how it works. And you have to be an expert by now or alteast learned some lessons you can share.

Every shop has a range of what they are good at. Alot of shops don't recognize that should say NO to something they suck, because they need cash flow or hate to see a job go somewhere else. And I think every shop serves a different level of expectation. Some shops are Sizzler and some The Steak house at the WYNN in Vegas. Each shop serves a client base. Its the guys who misrepresent what they serve or charge for that are the issue. And customers who have no idea what reality is.

I have indeed learned more than a few valuable lessons here. And it's about cars themselves... and the builders/shops... and it's about you (me) as the owner/hobbyist. Lots of moving parts and just one of them not being right can really derail things. Sometimes it's about keeping up with your buddies.

I drove my fairly simple budget oriented car mostly as is for nearly 2 years upon buying it. Made some key "pro touring" changes/upgrades and it was pretty good to go. I got bored with it. The power. Everything. It no longer "scared" or excited me in a certain way. Sure, it was capable, but I wanted more. Remember, I had owned and daily driven more powerful cars than this so it was not surprise to me. Then it started getting a little stupid. My life is a little more conservative now (married, 1 kid) than when I first bought this car, and yes that does play a role in the bigger picture here. But then you started discussing shops and the constant delays/lack of progress with the car and those are issues pertaining to the shops directly. But the background is important and often times sets the stage - for better or worse.

While your quick assessment of the shops list Rodger is not terribly out of left field, there is no real need to get into specifics with each shop it's been at up until now. Most of that info can be found in this anti-epic thread if one is willing. I take responsibility for my complicit role in everything -- I am not one of those guys who claims he is always right and nothing is ever his fault. I am no mechanic. I am excited to work on this car (and drive it of course) once completed, but the serious work will be performed by trusted friends/local shops -- and there is good reason for that -- financial, safety and personal reasons are on that list.

Since you asked, here is my quick list of valuable lessons learned. Some are obvious and preached often, maybe some not so much.

Trying to stay local when choosing a shop makes sense for obvious logistical reasons, but don't force that issue if the right "fit" is just not there.

Productivity and efficiency (functions of experience) are KING -- not the bill rate.

Being the guinea pig for a shop is dangerous business. Take their track record of COMPLETING things seriously.

Personality and communication should mesh at a certain minimum level. Don't have to be best friends, but a working relationship is key.

Creative control - discuss this up front on any custom work. Do you trust them to just get it done in the best way they see fit? Or how involved do you want/need to be?

Don't let the cost of shipping a car to the right shop deter you from doing so -- it may save you thousands and be the right fit when all is said and done.

Trust your instincts. If it ain't feeling right, it is likely to not get better. Cut losses and run.



In sum, I could not be happier to have my car at Jim Pettigrew's place in Nascar country. Only looking forward from here.

P.S. Chad -- I love a good solid Panzer tank chassis. I'll see you at a CA track in 2016... maybe 2017. :cheers:

[GregWeld]

I just want to know who loves the new little race car more? You or Garrett? LOL

[preston]

I know you dont' want to get into the problems with your shops, but I just can't understand how you could go from a fairly completed chassis and front end to ripping EVERYTHING out. Was there really some super serious fitment issue or radical mis-alignment ?

I do 100% of the work myself, and I'm not always happy with my "shop" either. So there's that.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I know you dont' want to get into the problems with your shops, but I just can't understand how you could go from a fairly completed chassis and front end to ripping EVERYTHING out. Was there really some super serious fitment issue or radical mis-alignment ?

I do 100% of the work myself, and I'm not always happy with my "shop" either. So there's that.

when you have the choice of having to compromise suspension geometry due to factory sheet metal and another mans design or tearing it all out and build the suspension they way it needs to be, the later is the smarter choice. Albeit the more expensive choice but it will be worth it in the end. Honestly I don't know one shop that would finish any car that was started in another mans mind. onward and upward

[Flash68]

I know you dont' want to get into the problems with your shops, but I just can't understand how you could go from a fairly completed chassis and front end to ripping EVERYTHING out. Was there really some super serious fitment issue or radical mis-alignment ?

I do 100% of the work myself, and I'm not always happy with my "shop" either. So there's that.

when you have the choice of having to compromise suspension geometry due to factory sheet metal and another mans design or tearing it all out and build the suspension they way it needs to be, the later is the smarter choice. Albeit the more expensive choice but it will be worth it in the end. Honestly I don't know one shop that would finish any car that was started in another mans mind. onward and upward

Vince probably knows more of the dirty laundry than I have aired out here. I bet you would also agree Preston if I had the energy and willingness to post more. I just don't see it being fruitful. Onward and upward is right.

It did come down to fitment and then safety. When I started this version of the car in 2012, I was not married and a not yet a father, so real safety was not a driving force (to a degree, it wasn't completely ignored).

Lots of things (from different shops) were done without a lot of thought or experience in how it would function and actually work. My fault in that was too much blind faith. I have blind faith in Pettigrew because he deserves it and it is warranted via his real world experience.

FYI, the front sub is not getting completely redone, just modified a bit and then reattached, similar to Payton's (we have the same sub).

To me, tying the front and rear together is the biggest gain and improvement here with the perimeter (tank) chassis. It addresses a number of issues I had always wanted to do, but now the time was just right, for the reasons Vince has touched on.

I just want to know who loves the new little race car more? You or Garrett? LOL

Probably me but he'll come around! Garrett says thanks Uncle Weld. :cheers:

Can't you hear the SB2 noises he is making here? I can.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_7020_zpszdfnaipq.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/IMG_7020_zpszdfnaipq.jpg.html)

[fleetus macmullitz]

Well, the car appears lighter than before. Let's look at the positives here boys.

Proof Lat-g's best and brightest still post in this thread...I just don't why.


:P

[Vegas69]

Skip, there is a point where faith goes to folly. :lol:

[Ron in SoCal]

Hmm, 447 pages.

Did I miss a (real) update here? :D

[GregWeld]

Merry Christmas buddy! There's so many good ones yet to come.







Probably me but he'll come around! Garrett says thanks Uncle Weld. :cheers:

Can't you hear the SB2 noises he is making here? I can.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_7020_zpszdfnaipq.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/IMG_7020_zpszdfnaipq.jpg.html)

[Flash68]

Skip, there is a point where faith goes to folly. :lol:

Hurtful, Todd.

Hmm, 447 pages.

Did I miss a (real) update here? :D

I can't find it either. I think Rodger asked a question... or something. :peepwall:

Merry Christmas buddy! There's so many good ones yet to come.

He's currently :fire:

Then before you know it it'll be :rockin:

And then I'm really screwed when it's time for :drive:

:cheers:

[89 RS]

Love the little race car Dave, that's cool!
Glad to see you have found a shop that you're satisfied with thus far.

[Chad-1stGen]

Do you have a source for more pictures of that chassis and build up ?
I like that chassis.
I searched for any pictures of Dusold's car when it was being mentioned after Optima but didn't find much.

There are some great pics on facebook (where I pulled the one you quoted). Go to "Dusold Designs" and scroll back through all the uploaded pictures to the March 2015 timeframe there are half a dozen pics of the chassis. Also a few pics of the front radiator setup and airflow sometime after that.



P.S. Chad -- I love a good solid Panzer tank chassis. I'll see you at a CA track in 2016... maybe 2017. :cheers:

Dave, I really hope so! I'm sure your "tank" chassis as I"ve called it will be badass and your car is going to have far less compromises than my own when you do get it completed. I would love to go up and run Laguna Seca again and I do have a goal to run the 5 mile Thunderhill track sometime in 2016! American Muscle is sorely lacking at the CA tracks unless it is an Optima event or guys hear there is magazine coverage or something (I still can't fathom how many builds are posted on this and other forums and long long technical discussions about the theoretical best parts on a track and just how few cars actually show up at a regular track day).

[GregWeld]

(I still can't fathom how many builds are posted on this and other forums and long long technical discussions about the theoretical best parts on a track and just how few cars actually show up at a regular track day).





BEST STATEMENT OF THE DECADE.

[SSLance]

I just wish that we had the opportunities to hit many different tracks around this area that you in CA do. Hopefully the new ownership at Heartland Park Topeka announced a couple of days ago moves quickly with a repave and gets that great road course turned back into a great place to run on.

[fleetus macmullitz]

(I still can't fathom how many builds are posted on this and other forums and long long technical discussions about the theoretical best parts on a track and just how few cars actually show up at a regular track day).

lol

...like a politicians' campaign promises.

:BlahBlah: :BlahBlah:

[Flash68]

Love the little race car Dave, that's cool!
Glad to see you have found a shop that you're satisfied with thus far.

Thanks brother.

Honestly, having the car in the right place for me has allowed me to sit back and not think about it nearly as much as I used to. It's moving forward on a proper pace in competent hands. Serenity now! :lol:



Dave, I really hope so! I'm sure your "tank" chassis as I"ve called it will be badass and your car is going to have far less compromises than my own when you do get it completed. I would love to go up and run Laguna Seca again and I do have a goal to run the 5 mile Thunderhill track sometime in 2016! American Muscle is sorely lacking at the CA tracks unless it is an Optima event or guys hear there is magazine coverage or something (I still can't fathom how many builds are posted on this and other forums and long long technical discussions about the theoretical best parts on a track and just how few cars actually show up at a regular track day).

You are so right and while it has improved since you and went tracking in 2010 and were 2 of the 3 muscle cars out of 60 or 70 cars on those days, we are still the vast minority at any given track day anywhere. I don't mind that though really, but yeah a few more cars of our era would be welcomed out there.

Pro Touring has long been about putting very capable parts on a car that most users won't ever use hard (on a track anyway). And that's fine for those people. More than fine. I bet their stuff brakes less. :lol:

I just wish that we had the opportunities to hit many different tracks around this area that you in CA do. Hopefully the new ownership at Heartland Park Topeka announced a couple of days ago moves quickly with a repave and gets that great road course turned back into a great place to run on.

There are a lot of negative things about CA these days I bitch about, but the 3 track options (Laguna Seca, Thunderhill, Sonoma) within 1-2 hours of me are not one of them. :)

[fleetus macmullitz]

Great new avi DG...

Your 'lil Speed Racer jr will learn well at the feet of the master of 'jackstand creep'.


:trophy-1302:

[Flash68]

Great new avi DG...

Your 'lil Speed Racer jr will learn well at the feet of the master of 'jackstand creep'.


:trophy-1302:

Hopefully it is the dawn of a new era... or something like that. :buttkick:

:flag2:

[Evan Iroc-Z]

How does it feel knowing your 1(ish) year old's car is faster than yours?

BTW I'm pretty jealous he has a cooler car than me.

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_7020_zpszdfnaipq.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/IMG_7020_zpszdfnaipq.jpg.html)


Btw...great gift from 'The Greggers'. :cool:

[Flash68]

How does it feel knowing your 1(ish) year old's car is faster than yours?

BTW I'm pretty jealous he has a cooler car than me.


Ha, you and me both!

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/IMG_7020_zpszdfnaipq.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/IMG_7020_zpszdfnaipq.jpg.html)


Btw...great gift from 'The Greggers'. :cool:

Indeed!

[ironworks]

Ha, you and me both!



Indeed!


Yeah Greg is pretty good at Baby gifts.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Georgia/IMG_20131020_085159.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Georgia/IMG_20131020_085159.jpg.html)

[DBasher]

Since we're loving on GW :grouphug: he makes a great secret Santa also! He might have more money in my car than I do! I always tell people he's a special kind of special....

What was this thread about again?

:cheers:

[GregWeld]

Thanks guys..... but you're all full of crap. Now get back to work.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Thanks guys..... but you're all full of crap. Now get back to work.

Wow...that's so Charley of you.


lol

[intocarss]

Is it done yet?? :hello:

[Rmonte]

Can we see some pics??

[DBasher]

I still can't fathom how many builds are posted on this and other forums and long long technical discussions about the theoretical best parts on a track and just how few cars actually show up at a regular track day).

And the cars that do show up are on leaf springs and coils with reinforced control arms and good shocks! I crawled all over the cars at the NorCal Shelby deal and was surprised how "simple" the suspension set ups were. Anyone remember the old man in the green Camaro at Laguna USCA? Dude was damn fast and had zero trick parts....not even the required LS!

Dave, about the pictures....if it will help, let me know where to send the money and I'll kick in some dough to get Jim a "fancy" phone so he can get some pictures. Maybe Payton needs gas money....either way, I'm here to help.
:happy23:

[Che70velle]

Wasn't this thread about a Camaro, once upon a time?

[fleetus macmullitz]

Wasn't this thread about a Camaro, once upon a time?

Don't go there Scott. :shakehead:


lol

[57hemicuda]

He's a special kind of special, in an eating the paste sort of way. LOL

[Track Junky]

We shouldnt make fun of the kids that ride to school on the short yellow bus. LOL

[GregWeld]

And the cars that do show up are on leaf springs and coils with reinforced control arms and good shocks! I crawled all over the cars at the NorCal Shelby deal and was surprised how "simple" the suspension set ups were. Anyone remember the old man in the green Camaro at Laguna USCA? Dude was damn fast and had zero trick parts....not even the required LS!

Dave, about the pictures....if it will help, let me know where to send the money and I'll kick in some dough to get Jim a "fancy" phone so he can get some pictures. Maybe Payton needs gas money....either way, I'm here to help.
:happy23:



Because the guys that run - actually use their cars frequently on track (many are pure track only cars) - instead of wasting their time and money trying to just look like they go to the track..... hahahahahahahahahaha --- Sad but true.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Can we see some pics??

Out of necessity, we have had to develop strong visualization skills when visiting this thread...'lo these many years.


:stirthepot:

[Che70velle]

Out of necessity, we have had to develop strong visualization skills when visiting this thread...'lo these many years.


:stirthepot:


Good one Skip, but we all know you guys just come to this thread for the sarcasm. I'm sure this car is almost done, and he's just holding out on everybody until the unveil...

[Vegas69]

Good one Skip, but we all know you guys just come to this thread for the sarcasm. I'm sure this car is almost done, and he's just holding out on everybody until the unveil...

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :tv_happy: :tv_happy:

[Chad-1stGen]

We shouldnt make fun of the kids that ride to school on the short yellow bus. LOL

A Gaetano siting. You start hitting track days again Gaetano or still on break?

[GregWeld]

A Gaetano siting. You start hitting track days again Gaetano or still on break?



He's moved on to being Commode of the Yaught Naught Yacht Club.... Two motors are better than one now.

[Flash68]

He's a special kind of special, in an eating the paste sort of way. LOL

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/stuart_smalley_Daily-Affirmations-I-am-good-enough-I-am-smart-enough-and-doggone-it-people-like-me_f_improf_431x431_zpsx0ppdzbb.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/stuart_smalley_Daily-Affirmations-I-am-good-enough-I-am-smart-enough-and-doggone-it-people-like-me_f_improf_431x431_zpsx0ppdzbb.jpg.html)

We shouldnt make fun of the kids that ride to school on the short yellow bus. LOL

Oh we started to cut you some slack a long time ago there Slappy. :lol:

[Flash68]

Can we see some pics??

Yes we should have some update pics after Christmas or the first week of January.

[Rmonte]

Awesome!

[fleetus macmullitz]

My guess of your history from the side lines is

1st shop just not cutting it.
2nd shop was just over their head for what you wanted
3rd shop way over promised
4th shop made other money doing bigger fancier stuff and you were back burnered with a project you were never happy with.
5th shop looks more your speed



Good one Skip, but we all know you guys just come to this thread for the sarcasm.

You might be on to something there Scott...

:P

[WSSix]

We need a trigger warning next time, Skip! :tv_happy:

[Beach Cruiser]

Because the guys that run - actually use their cars frequently on track (many are pure track only cars) - instead of wasting their time and money trying to just look like they go to the track..... hahahahahahahahahaha --- Sad but true.

How many people on this entire forum actually go out and beat on their cars on the track? 10? I post more pictures of me fixing what I broke than I do what I build! I love this thread, page after page with no car pictures! LOL

[fleetus macmullitz]

We need a trigger warning next time, Skip! :tv_happy:

Sorry. Bad habit I have Trey. :shakehead:

Posts like mine are likely why only 37 out of 103 psychotherapists recommended this thread to their patients.