1968 Camaro "Badmotorfinger" v2.2

[intocarss]

When Brett and I stopped by to grab my engine on Friday, Mike @ Watson Racing just happened to be dynoing a 650 cubic inch Pro Stock motor. :eek:

The sound made the hairs stand up all over my body. The hairs did stand up when my motor was on the dyno, but that was for different reasons. :G-Dub: :lol:

1400+ hp
1000+ ft lbs

Enjoy.

Wy1sEAIbOBA YOU'RE NO LONGER A VIRGIN.... AIN'T THAT SOUND AWSOME!!!

[Flash68]

I hope your start up goes much better than mine! :sieg:



Oh man gotta love a nice SIMPLE carb eh? :hitaxeonthehead:

YOU'RE NO LONGER A VIRGIN.... AIN'T THAT SOUND AWSOME!!!

Incredible sound and physical feeling standing about 8 feet from that thing.

[Sieg]

Oh man gotta love a nice SIMPLE carb eh? :hitaxeonthehead:



Incredible sound and physical feeling standing about 8 feet from that thing.

My issues (the car) were actually all based on a weak ignition ground.

Experiencing that pro stock motor in person had to be something!

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[Frankenstine]

Hey Dave Really nice Engine, Your car going to be mostly Race car and no Street car or some of both?

[GregWeld]

Nice looking scrap.

[sik68]

Nice writeup Brett! Go get them fenders! :superhack:

[Flash68]

I'm excited to work on this project with Dave.

Very excited on my end too, Brett... :D :thumbsup: :superhack: :weld:

Hey Dave Really nice Engine, Your car going to be mostly Race car and no Street car or some of both?

Thank you... and BOTH! I plan to drive it on the street as much as possible. I moved last year out of the city and for the first time I have a garage of my own and nice streets and roads to cruise around in.

[Sieg]

Very excited on my end too, Brett... :D :thumbsup: :superhack: :weld:

Thank you... and BOTH! I plan to drive it on the street as much as possible. I moved last year out of the city and for the first time I have a garage of my own and nice streets and roads to cruise around in.
She's lookin' Davey! :thumbsup:

Regarding street use I'd suggest you put a good attorney on retainer in the near future........preventative maintenance. http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums/images/smilies/cool2.gif

[hotrod69camaro]

I'm very surprised to see this monster of a mill running a mechanical fuel pump. I run one too but dont make the HP this one does.

[tones2SS]

Nice looking scrap.

lol
But seriously, looks awesome Dave. Very stout man! :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Regarding street use I'd suggest you put a good attorney on retainer in the near future........preventative maintenance. http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums/images/smilies/cool2.gif

I married well. But I actually handle fighting the traffic violations in this house. Go figure.

I'll just put around on the street with this and make noise with it. The get up and go will only be done on a track. :thumbsup:

I'm very surprised to see this monster of a mill running a mechanical fuel pump. I run one too but dont make the HP this one does.

I contemplated electric but mechanical can handle big power too. My pump is from CV Products (Think: Nascar) and it is good for up to 1200 lbs per hr at 8 psi. Nickel plated for corrosive protection.

Plus I just like that is a mechanical and I have a carb. Minimal electrics. :D

[Sieg]

I married well. But I actually handle fighting the traffic violations in this house. Go figure.
:headscratch: What's your win/loss record?

I'll just put around on the street with this and make noise with it. The get up and go will only be done on a track. :thumbsup:
I wasn't born yesterday kid. :mock:


Plus I just like that is a mechanical and I have a carb. Minimal electrics. :D
:happy23:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

awesome Dave! The wheels are rollin now buddy.

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[GregWeld]

I contemplated electric but mechanical can handle big power too. My pump is from CV Products (Think: Nascar) and it is good for up to 1200 lbs per hr at 8 psi. Nickel plated for corrosive protection.

Plus I just like that is a mechanical and I have a carb. Minimal electrics. :D




Where the heck is Todd when I need him.... OH MY.....

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[coolwelder62]

This build is takin longer than mine.:poke: :gitrdun:

[DFRESH]

I gotta say it Brett, your new shop has never looked better. LOL

I think I may be more excited about Dave's car coming together than mine. I still think my exhaust is cooler---but I think he may beat me on the aggressive side of the sound.

BW

[GregWeld]

This build is takin longer than mine.:poke: :gitrdun:




Lillard and I will be gettin' Social Security before this thing drinks any E85 and makes it's own wheels go roundy round. And we'll both probably be in the home before some ol' FE motor does the same...

[intocarss]

:hapdance: :willy:

[Vegas69]

I'm assuming the mullet is about half grown, mustache is coming in nicely, and you are spending most of your late nights watching nascar interviews on youtube? :unibrow:

Still not sure you could make up those 3 car lengths at RTTC on me. :lol:
vlYbpDylmUs

[DFRESH]

I'm assuming the mullet is about half grown, mustache is coming in nicely, and you are spending most of your late nights watching nascar interviews on youtube? :unibrow:

Still not sure you could make up those 3 car lengths at RTTC on me. :lol:
vlYbpDylmUs

LOL---Nice bro.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Daaamnnn. Tough crowd. No pressure brett

[fleetus macmullitz]

Wow, that is a big load ... of parts. :D

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/jCgNMfY78KmNTCdRA9Mfpw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTQ1MA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2013-09-16/07c9865e-f9c7-4c92-a9b1-0ee877ce8526_dancingroyalsfanbigger.gif

[Flash68]

:headscratch: What's your win/loss record?




Since 2002 I am 8 for 9.... 6 for 7 for myself.. 1 for 1 for my wife and 1 for 1 for my brother-in-law. And yes I am serious. I really need to start a side business.

The secret is TR-205 if you Californians are curious. :rules:


Just some overview of the parts that are going on this car.

Anyway, I'm not sure where all this stuff goes. However, I do own a gas torch and plasma and I'm pretty confident I will find a creative home for them.

:wacko:


:lmao: :lmao:

Dude I have no idea what any of that is or where it came from. Is that the right pile of parts? Whatever. Just make it work. :lol:

I'm assuming the mullet is about half grown, mustache is coming in nicely, and you are spending most of your late nights watching nascar interviews on youtube? :unibrow:

Still not sure you could make up those 3 car lengths at RTTC on me. :lol:


Haha you are going to ride that one into the sunset aren't you? :action-smiley-027:


Lillard and I will be gettin' Social Security before this thing drinks any E85 and makes it's own wheels go roundy round. And we'll both probably be in the home before some ol' FE motor does the same...

Social Security.... that doesn't sound like it's too far away for ya then. Umm congrats? :twak:

[Sieg]

The secret is TR-205 if you Californians are curious.
Easier fish to fry - not worth the effort/hassle?

[Flash68]

Easier fish to fry - not worth the effort/hassle?

Yep. Bog em down with lengthy and insanely detailed paperwork, diagrams, etc. I really don't speed or get tickets any more. Probably because my daily driver is a FORD and it won't go past the speed limit.

[Vegas69]

To answer your question, yes. ha

Dictionary: Bastard=Badmotorfinger:computer:

[Sieg]

To answer your question, yes. ha

Dictionary: Bastard=Bada$$motorfinger:computer:
Fixed it for ya.

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[Payton King]

You are moving fast. Cannot wait to see what you come up with. Always looking to steal an idea and call it my own. LOL

[coolwelder62]

Will you be using that Snap on chrome edge molding to cover the newly cut sheet metal.

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Badmotofinger%2068%20Camaro/012_zps5d98c5bf.jpg

This is the Dub Renner version of a disc brake protector. Sure I could have made it smaller, but that's how we roll around here. :lol:


Always go Dub, more page hits that way. ;)

[GregWeld]

OKay we'll buy you a body saw for a house warming present....

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[DFRESH]

Yes, lower for sure----but you know me.

[Sieg]

Somebody's going to wet their britches........

:thumbsup:

[Rybar]

That looks awesome Dave! This thing is turning out pretty nuts

[Sieg]

pretty nuts
That there has serious nickname potential.........

[Al Moreno]

Two for good measure.... But actually they are different. Can you spot the change between photo one and photo two? (Where is Waldo?)




The one on the top has the hood pin on the floor :tv_happy:

[Flash68]

:_party: :rockin: :beavis: :fire:

I think many of you can see already why I agreed to have Brett work his magic on this car. The man is one of detail and thoroughness. And he has some serious fab talent and artistic ability. I have snowballed this project from a pretty basic car when I got it to the creature you see now. It does need a man capable of tying it all together for performance reasons and for safety reasons. This thing will be a weapon when done and I want to feel confident in the car and what's underneath when I go hammer down. Brett is that man for the job. :cheers:

Man this thing is already moving fast.... love it. :thumbsup:

[DFRESH]

Our Cars are sleeping together. I thought I taught mine better than that.

[GregWeld]

Might as well get used to the paper fenders --- after you put it into the wall a couple times that probably will become standard issue.



Are you strong enough to crank the steering wheel with those tires??

[Blake Foster]

Might as well get used to the paper fenders --- after you put it into the wall a couple times that probably will become standard issue.



Are you strong enough to crank the steering wheel with those tires??

lol

plus the paper will help keep SOME of the paint on the panels. lol

[Flash68]

Might as well get used to the paper fenders --- after you put it into the wall a couple times that probably will become standard issue.



Are you strong enough to crank the steering wheel with those tires??

The only way I get put into the wall is if a certain Torino puts me into said wall when I am in the process of lapping him. :action-smiley-027:

Oh, and you wanna arm wrestle for pinks? :lol:

[Blake Foster]

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Badmotofinger%2068%20Camaro/047_zps1553bd46.jpg

And the icing on the cake... The BOOM Tube! I'm determined to make this fit with sufficient ground clearance. I just want to see the look of peoples faces with this motor and boom tube rumble through town. :headspin:

Pretty SURE all your going to see is RED Blue RED Blue, cuz u sure wont hear the siren!!

[Flash68]

Pretty SURE all your going to see is RED Blue RED Blue, cuz u sure wont hear the siren!!

What?

[intocarss]

The only way I get put into the wall is if a certain Torino puts me into said wall when I am in the process of lapping him. :action-smiley-027:

Oh, and you wanna arm wrestle for pinks? :lol:

OR GW spins in front of you causing you to swerve :catfight:

[GregWeld]

OR GW spins in front of you causing you to swerve :catfight:



That's a given!!!

[89 RS]

This is going to be one insane Camaro! I don't know what else to say other than I'm jealous. :drool:
You're going all out Dave, freakin' awesome.

[Vegas69]

The only way I get put into the wall is if a certain Torino puts me into said wall when I am in the process of lapping him. :action-smiley-027:

Oh, and you wanna arm wrestle for pinks? :lol:

It will be hard to miss...:lol:

[Sieg]

:_party: :rockin: :beavis: :fire:

I think many of you can see already why I agreed to have Brett work his magic on this car. The man is one of detail and thoroughness. And he has some serious fab talent and artistic ability. I have snowballed this project from a pretty basic car when I got it to the creature you see now. It does need a man capable of tying it all together for performance reasons and for safety reasons. This thing will be a weapon when done and I want to feel confident in the car and what's underneath when I go hammer down. Brett is that man for the job. :cheers:

Man this thing is already moving fast.... love it. :thumbsup:
Well said and great decision for this project. :thumbsup:

[Blake Foster]

What?

EXACTLY!!!!

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[badmatt]

I love this Dave guy's car.

And the Torinoshima. :sieg:

[GregWeld]

Scrap

[Vegas69]

Looks sick...

[DaleTx]

Was working on the ride height some more. Lowered the front. Currently this is with a 1" rake downward to the front. I may lower the back a 1/2" more and start working on clearance and fitment... Like fitment as in fitment of the motor and a few other things to make it work. :cool:

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Badmotofinger%2068%20Camaro/IMG_6114_zpsb045bada.jpg


Awesome... :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Can't wait to see the bad blue dog eat!

[Flash68]

Brett, how bout we just leave it like that and go Pro Dirt Track style. :idea:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Dirt would pay you to be run over by that thang. :cool:



:hello:

[sik68]

I can't wait to see what the flares are going to do to this thing! :bur2:

[NOPANTS68]

man, awesome looking car. You guys doing fiberglass flares bonded to the steel fenders/quarters? I'm getting ready to do my brother's camaro in that fashio. ('72 Trans Am Camaro clone). Dave

[Ron in SoCal]

Dirt would pay you to be run over by that thang. :cool:


:hello:

To quote the birthday boy:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/joedirtTB063012_zps0409e666.jpg (http://s885.photobucket.com/user/flash911/media/Build%20Thread/joedirtTB063012_zps0409e666.jpg.html)

"Wait, what??"

:lol:

[Flash68]

man, awesome looking car. You guys doing fiberglass flares bonded to the steel fenders/quarters? I'm getting ready to do my brother's camaro in that fashio. ('72 Trans Am Camaro clone). Dave

Thanks Dave. Not sure of the final connection method, but we've talked about something with DZUS fasteners or rivits so far. And yes it will be fiberglass. I have an idea for an aircraft themed rivit pattern in my head but we'll see.

[waynieZ]

It looks great! I can't wait to see what you come up with for the flares.

[carbuff]

I love the look, but I'm curious what the control arm angles look like at this ride height? I know on my JRS setup, the lower arm would have been angled upward going to the spindle sitting anywhere close to this low. Are you guys concerned about this, or are you going to address the geometry in some way?

I love the work and think it's going to look awesome when done! :)

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[Rick D]

Great write up as always Brett :thumbsup: can't wait to see it all come together!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

People that post alot of pics should not have their 'plans' questioned.




:D

[68protouring454]

These are dual purpose cars we are building, so there are compromises.
Is 1 inch lower ride height really worth the re-engineering of not only the front susp geometry, the front steering geometry, the issue with limited room above the tire till it will want to hit the hood hinge area on a first gen when going that low, to the issues with moving/raising the floor for exhaust and ground clearance, this is still a street car and it needs to navigate roads and drive way entrances(which is a chore with current ride height let alone dave has 1 inch longer front splitter).Let alone moving to the back of the car now you have to re- engineer the shock travel(upper crossmember, already tight to floor, trailing arms and tq arm angles and mounting height, as well as the dual layer unibody area right in front of and above the center section, so you have to question "why did i even buy a production style susp system" why not just cut everything out and build a one off race chassis, where mounting oil tanks, fuel cells, fire bottle, sway bar control etc is easy?
There is a ton of work to this and to cut before thinking about the big picture is not good, let alone the other work in the rear, on a first gen camaro, you will need to raise the wheel tubs( they are already close at full bump at designed ride height), which then leads into cutting into the inner quarter supports, 1/4 window mounting area etc. I am not sure one could do that effectively without all the panels removed from the car.
This all sounds great if its what the customer wants, but if he wanted this why would the shell of the car be on a perimeter style chassis jig, not jackstands.
my engine crossmember is 5 inches at ride height with a 25.5 tall tire, that puts the undercar legs at 4 inches, what are you going to clear at 3 inches? Thats only lowering the car 1 inch (why do all this for one inch)
Last question is what does all this work do in the end? look cool? cost a ton? how much time did you shave off at the track? I have a proven formula for road racing, track day and time trial, raced it myself for the last 5 years, with many class wins,track records etc, from autox to time trial, to wheel to wheel racing, when you get to the track, whether the ride height is 4 inches or 5 doesn't matter when your 4 seconds behind.
Build some rocker extensions, and build flares to sit over tires, keep all the clearance you can get, these camaros don't have much extra room.

[Vegas69]

I'm with Jake, are you worried about performance and drivability, or looks?

[Sieg]

Build some rocker extensions, and build flares to sit over tires, keep all the clearance you can get, these camaros don't have much extra room.
:thumbsup:

[U-turn]

These are dual purpose cars we are building, so there are compromises.
Is 1 inch lower ride height really worth the re-engineering of not only the front susp geometry, the front steering geometry, the issue with limited room above the tire till it will want to hit the hood hinge area on a first gen when going that low, to the issues with moving/raising the floor for exhaust and ground clearance, this is still a street car and it needs to navigate roads and drive way entrances(which is a chore with current ride height let alone dave has 1 inch longer front splitter).Let alone moving to the back of the car now you have to re- engineer the shock travel(upper crossmember, already tight to floor, trailing arms and tq arm angles and mounting height, as well as the dual layer unibody area right in front of and above the center section, so you have to question "why did i even buy a production style susp system" why not just cut everything out and build a one off race chassis, where mounting oil tanks, fuel cells, fire bottle, sway bar control etc is easy?
There is a ton of work to this and to cut before thinking about the big picture is not good, let alone the other work in the rear, on a first gen camaro, you will need to raise the wheel tubs( they are already close at full bump at designed ride height), which then leads into cutting into the inner quarter supports, 1/4 window mounting area etc. I am not sure one could do that effectively without all the panels removed from the car.
This all sounds great if its what the customer wants, but if he wanted this why would the shell of the car be on a perimeter style chassis jig, not jackstands.
my engine crossmember is 5 inches at ride height with a 25.5 tall tire, that puts the undercar legs at 4 inches, what are you going to clear at 3 inches? Thats only lowering the car 1 inch (why do all this for one inch)
Last question is what does all this work do in the end? look cool? cost a ton? how much time did you shave off at the track? I have a proven formula for road racing, track day and time trial, raced it myself for the last 5 years, with many class wins,track records etc, from autox to time trial, to wheel to wheel racing, when you get to the track, whether the ride height is 4 inches or 5 doesn't matter when your 4 seconds behind.
Build some rocker extensions, and build flares to sit over tires, keep all the clearance you can get, these camaros don't have much extra room.



POW!!!

[FETorino]

These are dual purpose cars we are building, so there are compromises.:BlahBlah: :BlahBlah: :BlahBlah:
and build flares to sit over tires, keep all the clearance you can get, these camaros don't have much extra room.

I'm with Jake, are you worried about performance and drivability, or looks?

POW!!!

Jake you certainly have a racing pedigree and it can't be denied that you have proven your stuff is competitive on track days. Your post on the other hand isn't so great and is obviously all about personal attachment to your product and not really trying to be a productive part of Dave's build.

It sucks that it comes across as taking a cheap shot at another fabricator because his customer bought your part.:snapout:

I didn't see him bashing your product. Is it perfect or was he just respectful in not saying anything?:rolleyes:

Maybe you read something else into what he posted. If you did maybe the PM function would be a better first step that bashing a guy posting a build plan.


Do you, Todd or U turn really think that lowering the body over the subframe is going to be the limiting factor in drivability? :lostmarbles:
Not the Tilton triple disc clutch or the non syncro trans or the boom tube exhaust? Those are common to all soccer mom cars. But that 3.5" to 4" ground clearance is a deal killer.:lol:

I've seen Brett drive his too low to be streetable (by your definition because it's lower than what is proposed on Daves) 67 Camaro from Long Beach to Irvine and back to Cars and Coffee. Something like 80+ miles of street driving.

His car has 315s on all four corners and no flares yet he seems to have done the impossible and been able to find room for suspension travel in that cramped first gen. Must be magic:headscratch: Or maybe he just thought things though and executed a good plan. It's not like this is his first rodeo with a Camaro.

Don't give him credit for his attention to detail and building things that work just attack hi for modifying your part. That makes sense.

Do looks matter in a Protouring (or whatever we are calling these builds these days) car? F:censored: yes. The idea is function and style. Otherwise why waste your time building a First Gen Camaro. Just build a clapped out tube chassis race car and hit the track.

People on this site spend tens of thousands of dollars on stuff that doesn't add a hint of performance in the name of bling. I don't see you lecturing them.

Would you be posting on this thread if he had started with a Howe subframe?

What I see is you got offended that somebody was modifying one of your subframes. A subframe he bought second hand, not new from you.

He bought it because he believes in the suspension geometry you use (he probably read a few of your posts about how great you are and how many races you've won. You know like the one on this thread :lmao: )

But he has a vision for what his protouring car is going to look like and it didn't include mudflap looking side skirts so he talked with Brett about lowering the body over the frame while maintaining your geometry and suspension travel.

You could have offered to help in that effort, add you input and win some fans. Instead you just came across as bitter.

Hopefully that changes cuz I know Dave is a fan of your stuff and I bet he'd like you to support his build instead of throw stones at it.



:cheers:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Rob, I don't think Jake meant to bash anyone. I believe he is questioning the motives behind the work involved to achieve what he believes is a small gain...productive or not.

As a performance shop I have been down that road and felt that the required modifications to do it right might hurt performance. It wasnt worth the time or money to even try it. As a great friend once said "street car or race car, there is no in between, You only end up with a fast street car or a slow track car. Make your choice."

I believe Dave has a goal in mind of how he wants his car to look and perform. If he achieves his goals then he will be happy. If he doesn't he will fix it.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I still think this thread will somehow get to 200K page views someday. This stuff may help. :D

:relax:

[U-turn]

Rob, I don't think Jake meant to bash anyone. I believe he is questioning the motives behind the work involved to achieve what he believes is a small gain...productive or not.

POW!

That and he doesn't want anyone altering his products.

[57hemicuda]

This maybe simplistic, but why wouldn't you just use the drop spindles to take some height out of the front. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper, and it also fixes that stupid not being able to swap out the wheel bearings at the track without breaking the knuckles apart thing(lower bolt is exposed on drop spindles). I know Steve Rupp had the same issue with Bad Penny, and installed billet drop uprights, fixed height issue without changing geometry.

Hell, Jake helped me modify his subframe on my AMX. I think he was just saying that was a lot of coin, and effort for an inch.

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/Other/Mustang/i-NXnQ35r/0/L/drop%2520spindles%2520w%2520watermark%2520and%2520 text%2520web%2520view-L.jpg

[GregWeld]

Well this got interesting in a hurry....

:popcorn2: :lol:



Hey Dave! How ya going to moderate this one??




EEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA

[GregWeld]

A REAL honest to gawd 1969 photo of a Trans Am race.... with some suspension travel "back in the day".....


Today - we'd dial that out til she ran flat.... but back in the day... oh my...





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[carbuff]

Rob, I don't think Jake meant to bash anyone. I believe he is questioning the motives behind the work involved to achieve what he believes is a small gain...productive or not.


Not wanting to stoke any flames, but I read it the same way. (it probably also helps that I know Jake and have communicated with him for a few years now) Although I do think Dave's intentions (I could be wrong, shouldn't speak for him) aren't as much concerned with streetability as track performance (Rob certainly pointed out a few of those in his post).

I think this car is going to be awesome when completed. Since I run the JRS setup also, and my car sits pretty low, I was just wondering what effect going that much lower would have. Jake actually emailed me and explained that some angle to the LCA's is actually expected and planned with his setup/geometry, so I got a little more education myself from asking the question...

I'll be curious to follow along here and see how things are modified to handle the changes. Certainly anything can be done, and it's Dave's project and money to throw at it! :G-Dub:

[Vegas69]

Take your pink Ford panties out of your crack.

I'm with these guys, I didn't see it as bashing, simply constructive advice.

[camcojb]

Well this got interesting in a hurry....

:popcorn2: :lol:



Hey Dave! How ya going to moderate this one??




EEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAMy thoughts exactly. :tv_happy:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

This maybe simplistic, but why wouldn't you just use the drop spindles to take some height out of the front. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper, and it also fixes that stupid not being able to swap out the wheel bearings at the track without breaking the knuckles apart thing(lower bolt is exposed on drop spindles). I know Steve Rupp had the same issue with Bad Penny, and installed billet drop uprights, fixed height issue without changing geometry.

Hell, Jake helped me modify his subframe on my AMX. I think he was just saying that was a lot of coin, and effort for an inch.

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/Other/Mustang/i-NXnQ35r/0/L/drop%2520spindles%2520w%2520watermark%2520and%2520 text%2520web%2520view-L.jpg

That would be a logical choice but as a fellow fabricator ( not meaning to step on Brett's toes by speaking for him)but I enjoy problem solving and creating solutions from scratch. Sometimes it's the fun way around.
Note: this coming from a guy that would rather spend 36 hours straight tig welding a 16g stainless steel 90 point roll cage in a 1962 Volkswagen bug than doing 1 hour of writing estimates and updating a profit loss statement.:computer:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

:headspin: Well this got interesting in a hurry....

:popcorn2: :lol:



Hey Dave! How ya going to moderate this one??




EEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA

My thoughts exactly. :tv_happy:

I hope he let's it ride and uses it for fuel to finish his car the way he invisions it.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I think a 20 in the rear would fit the look he is after. Brett is that an 18 315 on there now?

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[DFRESH]

Interesting--buried in this seems to be a debate between a trade off between looks and performance--(desired ride height/looks vs track performance)

I think it's worth all of the effort to have my car as low as it can go---but I like the way it looks--and I will be driving mine on the street and taking long trips--and I am willing to sacrifice some performance if necessary to achieve that. The great thing about having Brett do this for me is the fact that he has been able to achieve this for me while giving me more suspension travel than I had before and better articulation at a lower ride height than I had before--which in the end gives me a better performing car at a ride height that I absolutely love. Brett won't do it unless it's going to be correct in the end. I recognize that 20's on a 69 in the rear is not every ones taste--but I have never built the car for anyone but me. So in the end, build it the way you want it--if it costs an extra 10k to lower the car and you have it to spend, do it--especially if it won't sacrifice performance. Trade offs for looks, performance, streetability , etc are a big part of this gig in my opinion--and somewhere--usually in your wallet--is the balance of all of these.

D

[fleetus macmullitz]

"What you need is an impartial mediator. Course, it would have to be someone who hasn't heard the story before. Someone who is unencumbered by any emotional attachment. Someone whose heart is so dark, it cannot be swayed by pity, compassion, or human emotion of any kind." -Jerry Seinfeld

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Funny Vince... just adding fuel to the fire..uh. This is not the D-Renner page. Lol.

Rear is 335 18 on 13" wide rim if you were being serious. (But I think I know your style and you are trying to jerk my balls). lol not gunna happen this time buddy. :welder:

Ok Brett, I was no where near your balls on this one. You have to stop thinking every comment is an attack on your manhood.

This isn't the first time. When I made the harmless observation and commented "although I'm not a big fan of grinding down tig welds on a roll cage component" you took it personal and then attacked my skills and knowledge as a weldor. Fine, I'm thick skinned.
I get it Brett, your an artist. But please don't take opinions so personal. Just look at it for what it is. Don't get me wrong, I like your Brett-ti-torials and look forward to them but geeze man throw away the beret and man up. Your on a public forum. Your gonna get opinions and criticism from all sides.

All I was saying was I think Dave may need a taller tire and I'm sticking with that. I think it would have been a lot easier if you had replied " what do you mean Vince".

Again I'm not putting you down. It's ok.

[Rick D]

Come on no more of this :catfight: :catfight:

Just more of this:grouphug: :grouphug:

This is why this site is better then all the others, because we talk about what we are doing and share ideas? Not bash or try to tell someone else what they should or shouldn't do?

I think Greg has said it best time and time again the only one that has to like it is the guy paying the bill!!!

As far as coping goes aren't most of the front suspension that use C/5-C/6 setup a copy of what GM designed?? Refined sure I get that, made better for sure in most cases, but everyone that builds a sub frame or full frame with these parts has taken the concept from GM? Just sayin!

[GregWeld]

I love you man.......






HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Vegas69]

He's got all the opinions he needs. I agree, the only one that really counts is his own. I didn't see the PM's, my opinion was based on what was posted on the forum which I still think is constructive advice.

Now that I'm looking in on these projects after pissing countless dollars down the drain on things that didn't make much difference in the end, it's hard for me to get on board with redesigning a system that clearly works as designed for the majority of the intended application.

I see it as a delay from getting on the track and having fun. But, my passion for it has waned so I see things differently these days.

Let's keep the politics out of it.

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^ OLD, MARRIED, AND BORING.....




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Vegas69]

Hard to disagree...:D :relax:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Come on no more of this :catfight: :catfight:

Just more of this:grouphug: :grouphug:

This is why this site is better then all the others, because we talk about what we are doing and share ideas? Not bash or try to tell someone else what they should or shouldn't do?

I think Greg has said it best time and time again the only one that has to like it is the guy paying the bill!!!

As far as coping goes aren't most of the front suspension that use C/5-C/6 setup a copy of what GM designed?? Refined sure I get that, made better for sure in most cases, but everyone that builds a sub frame or full frame with these parts has taken the concept from GM? Just sayin!

I love you man.......






HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He's got all the opinions he needs. I agree, the only one that really counts is his own. I didn't see the PM's, my opinion was based on what was posted on the forum which I still think is constructive advice.

Now that I'm looking in on these projects after pissing countless dollars down the drain on things that didn't make much difference in the end, it's hard for me to get on board with redesigning a system that clearly works as designed for the majority of the intended application.

I see it as a delay from getting on the track and having fun. But, my passion for it has waned so I see things differently these days.

Let's keep the politics out of it.

Watch the reach around man! LOL

Without knowing the full story it's hard to know what is going on. I favor transparency.

Again, I'm not bashing anyone. Just sayin.

[Vegas69]

Greg, I'm headed over to Whole Foods for lunch and then a workout at the gym. Please keep an eye on things while I'm away. :unibrow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I just wonder if Flash had used an LSX (or an FE)... would this thread have spiraled so out of control?



:lol:

[GregWeld]

Greg, I'm headed over to Whole Foods for lunch and then a workout at the gym. Please keep an eye on things while I'm away. :unibrow:



Get some carrots to juice dude!


I used to shop at Whole Foods -- but I can't afford $300 for two bags of groceries.


To the rest of ya....


Ya know what I love about Lat G? We've never let stuff like this creep into our threads. Let's go back to just having a good time and slapping each other on the back. If I want YellowBullet I'll go over there....


Oh yeah ---- if I was home I'd go measure the ground clearance on the Lotus -- I'd be willing to bet it's less than 3 inches at the chin.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Lotus/file-4.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Lotus/file-4.jpg.html)

[GregWeld]

Lost my own bet -- the chin spoiler is 3.6 inches high.... I need 4+ inches to clear the ramp of the trailer.... and had all manor of issues trying to load this up.... wood under the wheels etc.

Of course this measurement depends on lots of things -- such as the distance from the nose to the wheel center etc - and the little Lotus is quite long there.


Just saying -- LOW is fun but creates other issues with drivability. No way the Lotus see any street driving - and it just simply wouldn't make it if I tried.

You've got to watch for jack clearance and things like that - especially at the track where you may need to actually work on the car. I carry race ramps in the rig for this reason.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Get some carrots to juice dude!


I used to shop at Whole Foods -- but I can't afford $300 for two bags of groceries.


To the rest of ya....


Ya know what I love about Lat G? We've never let stuff like this creep into our threads. Let's go back to just having a good time and slapping each other on the back. If I want YellowBullet I'll go over there....


Oh yeah ---- if I was home I'd go measure the ground clearance on the Lotus -- I'd be willing to bet it's less than 3 inches at the chin.







just the right height to clear your average parking stop. :D

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I will be bowing out of posting any updates on this thread.

.

this is what what im talking about. Run your race man....Listen to Terry, Its time to man up and stop crying.

Again, im not bashing you. Keep it going, F*** the B*** S***

[intocarss]

I still think this thread will somehow get to 200K page views someday. This stuff may help. :D

:relax:3112 :hello:

[Track Junky]

WTF!! This thing aint done yet!! I'm going back to sleep!! What year should I set my alarm clock to? :lol:

J/K Dave. For what it's worth pretty sure this one is a no brainer. Set that thing up the way Jake designed it be. :poke:

[FETorino]

Take your pink Ford panties out of your crack.

I'm with these guys, I didn't see it as bashing, simply constructive advice.

Todd have you been lurking in my bushes lately? How did you know what color panties I'm wearing?:lol:

You probably should get back to juicing some wheat grass and taking Jeraldo selfies of yourself for future posts. You seemed to have lost your Zen edge. Return to balance, gain center, be the change you want to see in the world, and stop staring in my window.:lmao:




To the rest of ya....


Ya know what I love about Lat G? We've never let stuff like this creep into our threads. Let's go back to just having a good time and slapping each other on the back. If I want YellowBullet I'll go over there....


Oh yeah ---- if I was home I'd go measure the ground clearance on the Lotus -- I'd be willing to bet it's less than 3 inches at the chin.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Lotus/file-4.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Lotus/file-4.jpg.html)

I agree this thread does need to get back on track.

DG hurry up and post the poll so everyone can decide by committee: what shall your ride height be? :P Or just make a decision like it's your car.

Since we are talking about Camaro and Bowtie parts I vote cut them up beyond recognition.:lmao:

GW. When did you get that Lotus? How did I miss that? I want one of these. Saw it at Coronado today.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2135_zps96ed3d37.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2135_zps96ed3d37.jpg.html)

:cheers:

[GregWeld]

GW. When did you get that Lotus? How did I miss that?





I refuse to be held liable for what you don't know....


Please try to keep up in the future.

[FETorino]

I refuse to held liable for what you don't know....


Please try to keep up in the future.

Thanks for pulling me aside. I guess I will hire an assistant to track your purchasing. :poke:

:y0!: Was it prior to the Wilson and after the Renegade? I need to get it in the correct spot on the spreadsheet.

I bought some lug nuts this week.

:cheers:

[Vegas69]

Todd have you been lurking in my bushes lately? How did you know what color panties I'm wearing?:lol:

You probably should get back to juicing some wheat grass and taking Jeraldo selfies of yourself for future posts. You seemed to have lost your Zen edge. Return to balance, gain center, be the change you want to see in the world, and stop staring in my window.:lmao:


I've been spending to much time around my limited associations. :lol:

[U-turn]

Where's Dave?

[Sieg]

Where's Dave?
Wisely lurking in the shadows.

[U-turn]

Wisely lurking in the shadows.

Ha good one Sieg!

[sixnina]

I'm sure once all is said and done Badmotorfinger will speak for itself on the track!! And in the end if it performs like Dave wanted that's all that matters.:bigun2:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I'm sure once all is said and done Badmotorfinger will speak for itself on the track!! And in the end if it performs like Dave wanted that's all that matters.:bigun2:

::cheers:

[LUACE]

This got interesting... I'm enjoying this more than the Dexter finally :cheers:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Wisely lurking in the shadows.

Like a rogue. ;)

[Flash68]

Where's Dave?

"I'm everywhere, Focker."

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Deniro_zps0a5a716f.jpg


Actually, since Jody gave me the weekend off, I had a great escape doing this :bigun2:

with this

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Guns/bc0c2970-55b4-4594-b21e-0ed69c6be1a2_zps165e7f4a.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/Guns/bc0c2970-55b4-4594-b21e-0ed69c6be1a2_zps165e7f4a.jpg.html)

and with this

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Guns/null_zps5798ffb4.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/Guns/null_zps5798ffb4.jpg.html)


Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. :popcorn2:

:thumbsup: :flag2:

[GregWeld]

Is there a subliminal message in there somewhere??

[Vince@Meanstreets]

"I'm everywhere, Focker."

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Deniro_zps0a5a716f.jpg


Actually, since Jody gave me the weekend off, I had a great escape doing this :bigun2:

with this

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Guns/bc0c2970-55b4-4594-b21e-0ed69c6be1a2_zps165e7f4a.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/Guns/bc0c2970-55b4-4594-b21e-0ed69c6be1a2_zps165e7f4a.jpg.html)

and with this

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Guns/null_zps5798ffb4.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/Guns/null_zps5798ffb4.jpg.html)


Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. :popcorn2:

:thumbsup: :flag2:
Nice, Adams gas piston? I got the PWS piston from my buddies at ADDAX tactical.

[Flash68]

Is there a subliminal message in there somewhere??

Just a coincidence. :)

Had this day planned with my SWAT buddy for a couple weeks.

I was a little tempted to hit the full boogie button on his Colt AR when I was shooting it. :sieg:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Just a coincidence. :)

Had this day planned with my SWAT buddy for a couple weeks.

I was a little tempted to hit the full boogie button on his Colt AR when I was shooting it. :sieg:

Ahhhhu hummmm select fire........ That term you used will put us on HLS alert

[Flash68]

Nice, Adams gas piston? I got the PWS piston from my buddies at ADDAX tactical.

It's the factory Sig 2 piston system.

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/sig556-holo.aspx

As you probably know, Vince, the Sig 556 is a not a true AR-15 platform (gas piston vs direct impingement) but does share some features and parts interchangeability.

I was just looking at an AR-10 built by ADDAX the other day on Calguns. Stunning.

[Flash68]

I was a little tempted to hit the full boogie button on his Colt AR when I was shooting it. :sieg:

Ahhhhu hummmm select fire........ That term you used will put us on HLS alert

Better? :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

Like a rogue. ;)

Is there a subliminal message in there somewhere??

Yes.







:lol:

[FETorino]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Guns/null_zps5798ffb4.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/Guns/null_zps5798ffb4.jpg.html)


Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. :popcorn2:

:thumbsup: :flag2:

I like the dichotomy of the Sig with the serenity statue in the background, the modern weapon with the backdrop of the post modern era furniture .

Is that a Verner Panthon designed table?:poke:

:cheers:

[FETorino]

On a build thread note I have an idea surrounding wheel style and functionality. Want to guess what it is?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2068_zps9a641688.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2068_zps9a641688.jpg.html)

[Flash68]

I like the dichotomy of the Sig with the serenity statue in the background, the modern weapon with the backdrop of the post modern era furniture .

Is that a Verner Panthon designed table?:poke:

:cheers:

It's actually mid century modern but who's counting? :)

And that is not a table -- it's a Packard Bell record player credenza. :rockin:


Cars... guns... furniture design.... what a thread. :D

[Flash68]

On a build thread note I have an idea surrounding wheel style and functionality. Want to guess what it is?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2068_zps9a641688.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2068_zps9a641688.jpg.html)

:idea:

[Ron Sutton]

On a build thread note I have an idea surrounding wheel style and functionality. Want to guess what it is?

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2068_zps9a641688.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2068_zps9a641688.jpg.html)

Oh ... oh ... Oh ... I think I know ... :y0!:

You're going to paint your tire lettering yellow!

no?

You're going to run 15" steel wheels!

no?

You're going to paint your nuts yellow?

BINGO !!!! :thumbsup:

[Ron Sutton]

Flash,

How much did you shoot that shotgun?

It reminds me of the Mossberg riot shot gun I used to have. It had such nasty recoil with that pistol grip ... after 5 shots you wanted to put it down.

[intocarss]

Gun Pics, Race Car Pics..just Bring In Some Chic Pics And This Thread Will Have It All!!

[GregWeld]

This thread is more work than herding cats.....

[Flash68]

Flash,

How much did you shoot that shotgun?

It reminds me of the Mossberg riot shot gun I used to have. It had such nasty recoil with that pistol grip ... after 5 shots you wanted to put it down.

I probably shot the Mossberg 20-25 times and my buddy 10. We tried a variety of buckshot and slugs. I'd never shot a slug before and holy moly that is some serious bidness. :computer:

I got it as a pistol grip but started modifying with parts. This was its maiden voyage. I may throw the pistol grip back on there next time out.

This thread is more work than herding cats.....

Kinda like us keeping track of your cars and toters. :peepwall:

[Flash68]

I'm with Jake, are you worried about performance and drivability, or looks?

I can you tell what I am not worried about.. and that is a Torino. :poke:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

This thread is more work than herding cats.....

Herd of cats? Don't you mean brothel of cats, or am I out of context?

[FETorino]

I can you tell what I am not worried about.. and that is a Torino. :poke:

You know the fear of the Torino keeps you up at night.:hairpullout:

Oh ... oh ... Oh ... I think I know ... :y0!:

You're going to paint your tire lettering yellow!

no?

You're going to run 15" steel wheels!

no?

You're going to paint your nuts yellow?

BINGO !!!! :thumbsup:



He would but it's already been done.:P

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/rearwheel_zps5911f041.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/rearwheel_zps5911f041.jpg.html)

[intocarss]

You know the fear of the Torino keeps you up at night.:hairpullout:





That explaines why he is always on line all night

[Flash68]

[B]

You're going to paint your nuts yellow?

BINGO !!!! :thumbsup:






He would but it's already been done.:P

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/rearwheel_zps5911f041.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/rearwheel_zps5911f041.jpg.html)

What's been done? I can only see a blob of red and a blob of black and some hooptie trailer.

Nice "photograph" with your 1997 Blackberry.

[Ron Sutton]

He would but it's already been done.:P


I wasn't referring to his lug nuts. :lmao:

[Ron Sutton]

Flash,

I shot slugs with the pistol grip. Ugh! 5 rounds & I was done & went back to the other gun toys.

[tones2SS]

This thread is more work than herding cats.....

LOL
I thought this thread was about cats? :innocent:

[GregWeld]

Too bad that Torino is so far away from me or I'd have him bring it up so it would get finished.


What's a Blackberry? Don't they make jam with them?

[GregWeld]

LOL
I thought this thread was about cats? :innocent:



No --- this thread is about TORNIO'S.....

[Vegas69]

I can you tell what I am not worried about.. and that is a Torino. :poke:

I wouldn't be either. He's had the car for 6 months and hasn't even bothered to unload it off the trailer. I'm assuming they don't make ramps that will handle the weight and girth. :D

[89 RS]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Guns/bc0c2970-55b4-4594-b21e-0ed69c6be1a2_zps165e7f4a.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/Guns/bc0c2970-55b4-4594-b21e-0ed69c6be1a2_zps165e7f4a.jpg.html)

and with this

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/Guns/null_zps5798ffb4.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/Guns/null_zps5798ffb4.jpg.html)


Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. :popcorn2:

:thumbsup: :flag2:

Very nice toys right there. During my career, one of the coolest guns I've had, has been the H&K MP5 fully auto with a suppressor...it will take care of business.

[Sieg]

Very nice toys right there. During my career, one of the coolest guns I've had, has been the H&K MP5 fully auto with a suppressor...it will take care of business.First auto I ever shot was the MP5-SD.......what a let down.....very quiet, low recoil and minimal muzzle climb. I was expecting a real man-gun and got a passive ***** cat. :D

That said, excellent CQ weapon. Wish I could afford one for a house gun but the prices for a decent one are off the charts.

[Flash68]

Very nice toys right there. During my career, one of the coolest guns I've had, has been the H&K MP5 fully auto with a suppressor...it will take care of business.

Thanks and those MP5's are bad ass. Were/are you LEO or military or ?

[fleetus macmullitz]

Nice to see a liberal use of ammo. ;)

[WSSix]

So not trying to stir the puddin or anything but, Brent, given all that you do have planned in way of modifying existing suspension and subframe components, why not just build a full frame? I would think that would give you the most freedom to really design around all the obstacles presented. I bet it would also be faster, cheaper, and maybe even easier. Just wondering. I really like the direction you guys are headed with this car. Good luck!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

So not trying to stir the puddin or anything but, Brent, given all that you do have planned in way of modifying existing suspension and subframe components, why not just build a full frame? I would think that would give you the most freedom to really design around all the obstacles presented. I bet it would also be faster, cheaper, and maybe even easier. Just wondering. I really like the direction you guys are headed with this car. Good luck!

i think cost would be reason number 1 Tray.

[Flash68]

So not trying to stir the puddin or anything but, Brent, given all that you do have planned in way of modifying existing suspension and subframe components, why not just build a full frame? I would think that would give you the most freedom to really design around all the obstacles presented. I bet it would also be faster, cheaper, and maybe even easier. Just wondering. I really like the direction you guys are headed with this car. Good luck!

i think cost would be reason number 1 Tray.

Vince is exactly right when you analyze that at this point in time. It is easy to look at that in hindsight but I started this new phase 16 months ago (it hurts to type that) when a local guy PM'ed me asking if I was interested in his Jake's sub and torq arm. I'd already been talking to Jake and was leaning toward his setup, so it all took off from there and the snowballing began.

As much as I love Payton's car on Jake's full frame, I really am enjoying the "struggle" to maintain a street/race car balance (how I envision it) and I understand that that is totally in the eye of the beholder as many would label this a race car. I like that challenge am honestly looking forward to an "unstreetable" street car. :)

BUT... I am tired of not driving my car and watching all these guys have a blast at various events. I wanna join in the fun and compete and that is the real driving force at this point. My car has been down for about as long as I got to drive it from late 2010 to early 2012 and that just sucks.

I'll be meeting with Brett on Sunday while I am down in Socal for a wedding and we will be taking a look at various ride heights and the work involved. After some hard self analysis lately I hope I can be comfortable (aesthetically) with a ride height that will require minimal hard core fab like Renner's had to go through. And Brett has plenty of other fab work on my punchlist to do anyway (dry sump container, fuel cell structure, cage work, etc).

But if I knew what I knew now, and after seeing Payton's car, if I had to do it over I just might choose the full frame route.... Oh well, onward and upward.... no time to look too far in the past. :thumbsup:

Payton, you bastage.... :lol:

[Vegas69]

Street car...:lol: :lmao: :lostmarbles: Where is the pit crew going to ride?

[Flash68]

Street car...:lol: :lmao: :lostmarbles: Where is the pit crew going to ride?

Half street car. :D

Can they follow in the chase car? Probably a Ford of some kind since it will be in the rear view mirror.

[89 RS]

Thanks and those MP5's are bad ass. Were/are you LEO or military or ?

I'd tell ya, but then I'd have to...just kidding, LEO Dave.

[Sieg]

Half street car. :D

Can they follow in the chase car? Probably a Ford of some kind since it will be in the rear view mirror.
Hitch receiver makes it an official street car no?

Then you can design a full-framed race trailer to haul track gear. :secret:

[Jtomas801]

Hitch receiver makes it an official street car no?

Then you can design a full-framed race trailer to haul track gear. :secret:

And don't forget the barrels of E85!

Car is looking great, can't wait to see it back on the track.:gitrdun:

Jon

[Flash68]

I'd tell ya, but then I'd have to...just kidding, LEO Dave.

:D Right on Corey... :guns: :thumbsup: :flag2:

Hitch receiver makes it an official street car no?

Then you can design a full-framed race trailer to haul track gear. :secret:

That's what the Drag Week guys say.... :rules: :D

And don't forget the barrels of E85!

Car is looking great, can't wait to see it back on the track.:gitrdun:

Jon

Dangit I forgot about the E85.... you're right.... another strike against me. :computer:

Thank you!

:whenitsdone:

[WSSix]

Thanks for the explanation, Dave. I'm sure you guys will make it work the way you want it to be.

[GregWeld]

I'd just scrap it now while you're money ahead.... Call Charley and buy his Dale Earnhardt car and be done with it.



:mock: :faint: :rofl:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'd just scrap it now while you're money ahead.... Call Charley and buy his Dale Earnhardt car and be done with it.



:mock: :faint: :rofl:



http://www.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/funny-gifs-jim-derpy.gif

[Ron Sutton]

So not trying to stir the puddin or anything but ...

I learned a new saying today. :)

[Matt@BOS]

We've already talked furniture, and guns, but as of recent this thread has really gotten derailed with talk about cars. Can we get back on (off) topic and talk about something like beer? I heard Rob say something to the effect that you nearly poisoned him a few weeks ago.

[fleetus macmullitz]

GW keeps suggesting BMF be scrapped and/or is scrap.

I think he owns stock in metal recycling companies...so he is biased.

[intocarss]

Hitch receiver makes it an official street car no?

Then you can design a full-framed race trailer to haul track gear. :secret: yup yup If it looks like a street car and it drives on the street....It's a street car ;)

[DFRESH]

yup yup If it looks like a street car and it drives on the street....It's a street car ;)

My favorite 69 of all time right there. That car is flat amazing. Steve Morris knows how to screw together a motor doesn't he. That thing is sweet!!

D

[Flash68]

We've already talked furniture, and guns, but as of recent this thread has really gotten derailed with talk about cars. Can we get back on (off) topic and talk about something like beer? I heard Rob say something to the effect that you nearly poisoned him a few weeks ago.

This I like.

I couldn't bear to watch Rob drink any more of that crap he was drinking.... friends don't let friends drink sh!tty beer. :D

:cheers:

yup yup If it looks like a street car and it drives on the street....It's a street car ;)

If it smells like pro touring, then it must be pro touring. :mock:

[Vegas69]

yup yup If it looks like a street car and it drives on the street....It's a street car ;)

Yep, except for the rebuild every other city block.:y0!:

[intocarss]

Yep, except for the rebuild every other city block.:y0!:

Not if it's built right :D

[intocarss]

My favorite 69 of all time right there. That car is flat amazing. Steve Morris knows how to screw together a motor doesn't he. That thing is sweet!!

D YEAH IT IS


6 SEC STREET CAR ;)

3GQxXT0BpB4

[fleetus macmullitz]

YEAH IT IS


6 SEC STREET CAR ;)

3GQxXT0BpB4

That is one unfair Camaro. :unibrow:

Really enjoyed talking with Steve Morris earlier this year; about a considerably slower car though...lol

Thanks for posting that...Jerdawg FTW.

:hello:

[intocarss]

HI COZMO :hello: AND WHY IS THAT KITTY UNDER ARREST??

[fleetus macmullitz]

HI COZMO :hello: AND WHY IS THAT KITTY UNDER ARREST??

Because it started doing this stunt in public...

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/funny-gif-cats-fight-angry.gif

:badidea:


:lol:

[GregWeld]

That cat is sexy.....



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[intocarss]

Because it started doing this stunt in public...

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/funny-gif-cats-fight-angry.gif

:badidea:


:lol::catfight: :catfight: :catfight: :waveflag:


And GW owes me a screen

[GregWeld]

A real MOD would move this to the proper place.

[fleetus macmullitz]

A real MOD would move this to the proper place.


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/phpj5siGyAMl2nd.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Funnies/phpj5siGyAMl2nd.jpg.html)http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/asl-o.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Funnies/asl-o.jpg.html)http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/phpj5siGyAMl2nd.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Funnies/phpj5siGyAMl2nd.jpg.html)

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Because it started doing this stunt in public...

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/funny-gif-cats-fight-angry.gif

:badidea:


:lol:

The ole "crippler crotch face"

nice

[Ron Sutton]

A real MOD would move this to the proper place.

But I don't want to know who all is going from Lat-G. I just want to know who is going from the gang that usually posts on this thread? :hello:

I'm thinking some planned dinner, drinks & hijinks is in our SEMA future. :thumbsup:

[Ricochet]

A real MOD would move this to the proper place.

Don't know if I qualify as a "REAL" Mod, but completed Mr. Weld! Heavy on the Mr. :lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

This thread is 'the beast', an 'entity... can't kill it.

I would not try to move it.




:D

[Ron Sutton]

Todd,

Clear out your PM Box. It's full.

[tones2SS]

The ole "crippler crotch face"
nice

LMAO
Nice one Vince! :D

[GregWeld]

But I don't want to know who all is going from Lat-G. I just want to know who is going from the gang that usually posts on this thread? :hello:

I'm thinking some planned dinner, drinks & hijinks is in our SEMA future. :thumbsup:





AH HA --- Sorry Ron!!


Okay --- I'll just answer YES to all of the questions -- except the part about going out to OPTIMA - 'cause I'll go out Friday night and sleep in my rig -- I stay at the Bellagio -- a group usually kind of gathers during the day always figures out dinner and booze etc. It's usually kind of a cluster but it always works out.

The key to that is you need peoples cell #'s because it's a total TEXT show -- you can never hear the phone ring.

[intocarss]

"You must be fast cause you were haulin azz when I passed you"!!


Tom McEwen to NHRA tech..


Tom..

Hey those guys are cheating!!

Tech..

Yeah, how do you know?

Tom..

Well, we're cheating and they're faster then us :hello:

[Sieg]

A real MOD would move this to the proper place.

That might land you in the Enumclaw ER.

http://dalesdesigns.net/tv/Retro_Mr_Ed.jpg

:popcorn2:

[Sieg]

AH HA --- Sorry Ron!!


Okay --- I'll just answer YES to all of the questions -- except the part about going out to OPTIMA - 'cause I'll go out Friday night and sleep in my rig -- I stay at the Bellagio -- a group usually kind of gathers during the day always figures out dinner and booze etc. It's usually kind of a cluster but it always works out.

The key to that is you need peoples cell #'s because it's a total TEXT show -- you can never hear the phone ring.

I'll bring one of my dog's training collars for GW......Guarantee we'll be able to get his attention. :D

[Ron Sutton]

AH HA --- Sorry Ron!!


Okay --- I'll just answer YES to all of the questions -- except the part about going out to OPTIMA - 'cause I'll go out Friday night and sleep in my rig -- I stay at the Bellagio -- a group usually kind of gathers during the day always figures out dinner and booze etc. It's usually kind of a cluster but it always works out.

The key to that is you need peoples cell #'s because it's a total TEXT show -- you can never hear the phone ring.

Sounds good Greg. I got you cell by PM. See you there.

[Ron Sutton]

I'll bring one of my dog's training collars for GW......Guarantee we'll be able to get his attention. :D


Wow! Hardcore. :lol:

[Sieg]

Wow! Hardcore. :lol:

Not really, I use the vibrate function first then switch to guns or missile's if needed. (stimulation level 1-8, 1/10 of a second or continuous) :unibrow:

Guarantee you'll be able to see him above the crowd with the continuous on set on level 8. :lol:

[Ron Sutton]

Not really, I use the vibrate function first then switch to guns or missile's if needed. (stimulation level 1-8, 1/10 of a second or continuous) :unibrow:

Guarantee you'll be able to see him above the crowd with the continuous on set on level 8. :lol:

Too funny.

You know what they say ... If you can't laugh at your friends ... who will?

[tones2SS]

This thread is great!
What were we posting about in here again?!?! :gitrdun:

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6149_zpsf057c0c1.jpg

A true Ford lover trying to figure out if he can lower this thing and put a white stripe on it.

:poke:

:badidea:



I think it's a good decision.

A Flashmob must share common goals.



:tv_happy:

[GrabberGT]

....

I'll be meeting with Brett on Sunday while I am down in Socal for a wedding and we will be taking a look at various ride heights and the work involved. After some hard self analysis lately I hope I can be comfortable (aesthetically) with a ride height that will require minimal hard core fab like Renner's had to go through. And Brett has plenty of other fab work on my punchlist to do anyway (dry sump container, fuel cell structure, cage work, etc).

....

So is there a game plan yet? :superhack:

[GregWeld]

So is there a game plan yet? :superhack:



You ask as if though there ever was one.....





:poke: :G-Dub: :gitrdun:

[Sieg]

So is there a game plan yet? :superhack:

The plan looks something like this:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

[DFRESH]

Paint it blue with white stripes--put a torque arm in it all call it done.

[Flash68]

So is there a game plan yet? :superhack:

Never. Never. :lol:

You ask as if though there ever was one.....





:poke: :G-Dub: :gitrdun:

We reserve the right to constantly change our minds....


and to refuse service to anyone. :D

The plan looks something like this:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Ain't that partly the truth. :G-Dub:

Paint it blue with white stripes--put a torque arm in it all call it done.

Best plan I ever heard of. Now why couldn't I just have stuck with this before? :hitaxeonthehead:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Sorry, I figured this thread would need a picture of a Camaro eventually.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Badmotofinger%2068%20Camaro/IMG_6137_zpsbbe6dffd.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Badmotofinger%2068%20Camaro/IMG_6126_zpsa17cae11.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Badmotofinger%2068%20Camaro/IMG_6142_zpsdd36d2ac.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Badmotofinger%2068%20Camaro/IMG_6118_zps8aa3ab35.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Badmotofinger%2068%20Camaro/IMG_6125_zps0f8da682.jpg

[Flash68]

Thanks Vince. :thumbsup:

Brett is just slightly better at taking pics than that Rob guy. :poke:

[tones2SS]

Awesome updates Dave! That car is going to be fun. :angel:

[intocarss]

Any up dates??

[Flash68]

Brett should have something soon. :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Brett should have something soon. :thumbsup:

He's got the good stuff. :unibrow:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/Low-Flow_zps4203b697.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Funnies/Low-Flow_zps4203b697.jpg.html)

[67zo6Camaro]

lateral-g

[67zo6Camaro]

lateral-g

[67zo6Camaro]

lateral-g

[intocarss]

HOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yes:

[Flash68]

:rockin:

[scottysimp7]

Looking good DG. Can't wait to see more

[sik68]

:hapdance: Coming along nicely!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/aaaaaclapper_gifApproves_zps63a42ce3.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Funnies/aaaaaclapper_gifApproves_zps63a42ce3.gif.html)

[tones2SS]

HOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yes:

^^THIS! :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

The next time I have the chance to take some pics of a hacked up frame I'm going to post them and hope I get the same kudos….


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA




CUT TO CURE!!!

[gerno]

What wheels are on the car? I would check the thread for the info but i don't have time. I actually have to work during the day and sleep at night.

[Vegas69]

You would never find it. This thread is about as technical as watching Martha Stewart bake a pie.

[Matt@BOS]

You would never find it. This thread is about as technical as watching Martha Stewart bake a pie.

I found that out the hard way. Yesterday I was looking for some info on the brakes Dave was running, since I thought they were AP Racing. After clicking over one out of every ten pages for a little while, I just gave up.

[Vegas69]

Just cut out the middle man and ask Shipka. :lmao:

[GregWeld]

Just cut out the middle man and ask Shipka. :lmao:



Now that's some funny sh t right there!!

[GregWeld]

What wheels are on the car? I would check the thread for the info but i don't have time. I actually have to work during the day and sleep at night.



You must have eaten at "The Salt Lick" last night - 'cause you're pretty dang smart today!!!


HI STEVE!

[Flash68]

What wheels are on the car? I would check the thread for the info but i don't have time. I actually have to work during the day and sleep at night.

Jongbloed Racing.

http://jongbloedracing.com

I found that out the hard way. Yesterday I was looking for some info on the brakes Dave was running, since I thought they were AP Racing. After clicking over one out of every ten pages for a little while, I just gave up.

When Weld shows you how to use the internet, you could also have him show you how to use the search feature on these forums. :sieg: :D

Here's the deets I think you're looking for:

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=36952

[GregWeld]

When Weld shows you how to use the internet, you could also have him show you how to use the search feature on these forums. :sieg: :D




We'll be way too busy at SEMA syncing up our Instagram accounts to be bothered with looking at this hacked up carcass.

[fleetus macmullitz]

There are many posts in this thread about the lack of technical posts.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bkFIPLIOGL8/SEyVjMQe39I/AAAAAAAAOTI/GS9yXLejBsE/s400/Deep+Thoughts+logo.jpg

:D

[FETorino]

We'll be way too busy at SEMA syncing up our Instagram accounts to be bothered with looking at this hacked up carcass.

What's Instagram:headscratch:

Does it come as a free gift with your AARP card?

:cheers:

[intocarss]

What's Instagram:headscratch:

Does it come as a free gift with your AARP card?

:cheers: I just got an AARP CARD!!:confused59:

[Matt@BOS]

Just cut out the middle man and ask Shipka. :lmao:

Found the info thanks to "the Google." I still had to call to order the parts though. :lol: In retrospect maybe I should have asked Dave if I could borrow his brakes for the next two weeks. It isn't like he will be needing them any time soon.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I just got an AARP CARD!!:confused59:

AARP org is relentless. http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/bs.gif

:hello:

Found the info thanks to "the Google." I still had to call to order the parts though. :lol: In retrospect maybe I should have asked Dave if I could borrow his brakes for the next two weeks. It isn't like he will be needing them any time soon.

Nicely put.

:lol:

[Flash68]

Found the info thanks to "the Google." I still had to call to order the parts though. :lol: In retrospect maybe I should have asked Dave if I could borrow his brakes for the next two weeks. It isn't like he will be needing them any time soon.

You should have borrowed them.... that would probably have been the closest anything of mine got in to the OUSCI. :D

[intocarss]

TERROR has a new name......BMF in 2014!!!

[Matt@BOS]

You should have borrowed them.... that would probably have been the closest anything of mine got in to the OUSCI. :D

Don't say that. BMF may make it in for 2014 or 2015. There is the American Iron Mustang, and an unlimited class Cadillac Challenge Car running this year.


In any case, I think your brakes did run Optima with Shipka's car. :lol:

[tones2SS]

What wheels are on the car? I would check the thread for the info but i don't have time. I actually have to work during the day and sleep at night.

Too funny. :D

[Flash68]

A little bit of :weld: and :superhack: and :welder:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6248_zps9787537a.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6248_zps9787537a.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6249_zpsaf7e7669.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6249_zpsaf7e7669.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6254_zps0a605d52.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6254_zps0a605d52.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6252_zps5bb41438.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6252_zps5bb41438.jpg.html)

[Flash68]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6262_zpsacf6111f.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6262_zpsacf6111f.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6264_zpsc8b1fc5f.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6264_zpsc8b1fc5f.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6256_zpsd5ff5573.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6256_zpsd5ff5573.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6257_zps241c2156.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6257_zps241c2156.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6255_zps4fa4ff04.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6255_zps4fa4ff04.jpg.html)

[Flash68]

Engine will be about 1.5" lower and 3" set back from stock position. This was about as far as we could go without getting into major (what's minor? LOL) work. Brett says my ebay NASCAR air box made my Crawford Composites (Toyota :peepwall:) fits just about right. Sometimes things work out. :)

Can't wait to see the car next weekend after SEMA/OUSCI. Gonna be a fun trip.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6261_zps09a64f91.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6261_zps09a64f91.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6265_zpsb6d8ef42.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6265_zpsb6d8ef42.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6268_zpsea1d5e5b.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6268_zpsea1d5e5b.jpg.html)

[LS7 Z/28]

Tried looking through your thread a few times, man there is a lot on here!

I love the look of the car, really cool. Looks like an ECR SB2 Motor?

Now that is badass :flag2:

[badmatt]

Looks good DG!

[LS7 Z/28]

And I missed the obvious, you must be a Soundgarden fan?

:beavis: Hell yes!

[FETorino]

Engine will be about 1.5" lower and 3" set back from stock position. This was about as far as we could go without getting into major (what's minor? LOL) work. Brett says my ebay NASCAR air box made my Crawford Composites (Toyota :peepwall:) fits just about right. Sometimes things work out. :)

Can't wait to see the car next weekend after SEMA/OUSCI. Gonna be a fun trip.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6261_zps09a64f91.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6261_zps09a64f91.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6265_zpsb6d8ef42.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6265_zpsb6d8ef42.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6268_zpsea1d5e5b.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6268_zpsea1d5e5b.jpg.html)

You'll like it even better in person. It is starting to look like a car instead of a pile of parts.:thumbsup:

Tried looking through your thread a few times, man there is a lot on here!

I love the look of the car, really cool. Looks like an ECR SB2 Motor?

Now that is badass :flag2:

I think Matt A said it best. If you walk through the entire junk yard that some of these threads are you can find some treasures.

It's a 437ci SBC with sb2.2 heads, intake from the used NASCAR parts pile.

Dam dyno run cost me a BBQ dinner:bur2:

For anyone smart enough to stay outta the quagmire that is my Camaro build thread.... here you are:

Rob, I like my ribs Kansas City style and burnt ends are nice too.

u2sdYxqu3eQ

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/photo_002_zps1bfd5f9f.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/photo_002_zps1bfd5f9f.jpg.html)

[Flash68]

^^ Let it be known that's the nicest thing that Rob ever said about me or my car. :lol:

Thanks buddy. :D


Looks good DG!

Thanks bro... where you been hiding? Stop it. :hello:

Tried looking through your thread a few times, man there is a lot on here!

I love the look of the car, really cool. Looks like an ECR SB2 Motor?

Now that is badass :flag2:

And I missed the obvious, you must be a Soundgarden fan?

:beavis: Hell yes!

Thanks man, and as Rob said, it is quite the cesspool here. :computer:

Motor is a story in itself but Dart Little M, Callies/Lunati, Joe Gibbs SB2.2 heads, and E85 conversion are the highlights.

And YES a fellow Soundgarden fan here. I was wearing my Soundgarden shirt when my last Camaro caught on fire and the front half of it burned in front of me, so the connection to my next car just kinda made sense to me. :)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2462_zps44b05131.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2462_zps44b05131.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2463_zps6ea54d07.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2463_zps6ea54d07.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2475_zpse3c31eac.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2475_zpse3c31eac.jpg.html)

And I do have a new (different) Soundgarden shirt for this time around. :rockin:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_6268_zpsea1d5e5b.jpg.html

no thats more like it. I'd expect no less from the Flash camp!!

[LS7 Z/28]

Looks good DG!

^^ Let it be known that's the nicest thing that Rob ever said about me or my car. :lol:

Thanks buddy. :D




Thanks bro... where you been hiding? Stop it. :hello:





Thanks man, and as Rob said, it is quite the cesspool here. :computer:

Motor is a story in itself but Dart Little M, Callies/Lunati, Joe Gibbs SB2.2 heads, and E85 conversion are the highlights.

And YES a fellow Soundgarden fan here. I was wearing my Soundgarden shirt when my last Camaro caught on fire and the front half of it burned in front of me, so the connection to my next car just kinda made sense to me. :)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2462_zps44b05131.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2462_zps44b05131.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2463_zps6ea54d07.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2463_zps6ea54d07.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2475_zpse3c31eac.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/DSCF2475_zpse3c31eac.jpg.html)

And I do have a new (different) Soundgarden shirt for this time around. :rockin:

Sorry to hear about your other car man, glad to see you are well on your way with this one. I'm sure you have the craziest story of how you named your car! Glad you got a new shirt too.

[byndbad914]

...this car will definitely give a new definition to Louder than Love!

Loud Love, definitely one of my faves :beavis:

[Flash68]

...this car will definitely give a new definition to Louder than Love!

Loud Love, definitely one of my faves :beavis:

Right on Tim... I actually listened to that tune in my garage today. :rockin:

Speaking of noise, due to the lower ride height we are arriving at, the torque arm's inherent space killing, and my desire to keep a 3.5" exhaust volume and hopefully retain at least a good portion of my boom tube, Brett and I have talked about some interesting ideas for the exhaust. We'll get a better idea next week when we look at it together in person.

[byndbad914]

I have some ideas on my car as well but it is going to be a PITA to make large diam exhaust fit, even if I consider oval tubing. I may use a mix of oval and round tubing as I like the Dynomax stuff I used on the Porsche and they have round inlets/outlets. One cannot underestimate the value of noise and hell fire when you track a car! One day a few years ago at a track in southern CO it was just me out there and a guy showed up to see what was going on at the track. He heard my car while at the grocery store a few miles away and he thought there was an event going on!

You were the brighter of the two of us with a little less set back, at about 6" from stock in the Nova I am having to really think about how to make the floor mounted pedal assembly clear the gas pedal :headscratch: It definitely cuts down on the fab work. I will figure it out but I don't want to be sitting in the car like a Cobra with my feet clear to the left, or the opposite of the 914 where legs went right to clear the wheelwell. In the stock 914, they actually mounted the seat square in the car, pedals square but offset right, then put the steering column in at an angle! It forced me to sit in the seat sideways.

[intocarss]

It would be nice if all of you all quit highjacking this build thread!!!

DAMN DG.. i remember followng the build of that gunmetal color Camaro (can't remember which site it was on) I always wondered what happen to it . Sorry that happen

[badmatt]

Thanks bro... where you been hiding? Stop it. :hello:

Sorry, Sir. :underchair: