69 Camaro Project - Dead Pool

[Flash68]

This car gets faster every week and you've never even driven it yet. :unibrow:

[Ron in SoCal]

Just ask Rick. Dual flywheels balance out my twin disk clutch. I tried three but something wasn't right.

[FETorino]

This car gets faster every week and you've never even driven it yet. :unibrow:

Dave did you mean to post this in your thread :unibrow:

[Lenie]

Hey guys, sorry for the late reply...planes, trains and automobiles for the last 20 hours. Anyway thanks for the props! Car looks like it's sitting right, maybe a tad low. When I return next week I'll get the rear to the PCoater and a few other R&D items and then we move to finish assembly. So no Bryan, that 30 days aint firm...:lol: Brett continues to be meticulous (sp?)in his approach and I really appreciate that about him. :thumbsup:

Wheels are 19x12/335 and 18x10/285. Let me know if you want BS or aspect ratio.

And Marcus, the car will be flogged. I'm not a car show guy...:D
Those aren't pillows!:wow: Looking forward to more Pics:unibrow:

[Ron in SoCal]

Those aren't pillows!:wow: Looking forward to more Pics:unibrow:

You first Bro :D

[chr2002ca]

Dave did you mean to post this in your thread :unibrow:

The banter between you guys is just priceless. It's in almost every thread! Cracks me up to no end. Keep layin' it on thick fellas.

Ron, I'll most likely be having a chat with you about your final clutch solution to pick your brain. I'm leaning towards the Centerforce DYAD, but still considering an RST with aluminum flywheel also. Look forward to your end result(as you probably do too!) and feedback. :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

The banter between you guys is just priceless. It's in almost every thread! Cracks me up to no end. Keep layin' it on thick fellas.

Ron, I'll most likely be having a chat with you about your final clutch solution to pick your brain. I'm leaning towards the Centerforce DYAD, but still considering an RST with aluminum flywheel also. Look forward to your end result(as you probably do too!) and feedback. :thumbsup:

Call anytime Chris. Just yesterday got all the little pieces needed to mate the drivetrain and within tolerances needed to actually function properly. I'll let you know how that goes...

[frankv11]

Ron summer is been here and car is not on the streets yet, come on my boi

[CamaroAJ]

Just ask Rick. Dual flywheels balance out my twin disk clutch. I tried three but something wasn't right.

need even numbers to counter balance:unibrow:

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[Greg from Aus]

Hi Brett, can you please let me know what brand the reservoirs and bracket are as I need the same for my project.

Thanks
Greg

[GregWeld]

Bret ---

I have a couple of the 90* slotted 'jigs' that I use just like you have shown in your photos....

One of the things I did with my table - was to drill and tap (table is 1/2" steel) various combinations so I can just "bolt" the 90's to the table in various positions. It's fast and I don't end up with clamps for the 90 in my way.

Now - since I consider these "tools" - I just need to figure out what to do with them now that I have 'em. :D

[Ron in SoCal]

Hi Brett, can you please let me know what brand the reservoirs and bracket are as I need the same for my project.

Thanks
Greg

Hey Greg those are made by JCG. As Mr Weld would say, 'you can always call Chris and add a little billet'...:D

[Greg from Aus]

Hey Greg those are made by JCG. As Mr Weld would say, 'you can always call Chris and add a little billet'...:D

Thanks Ron,

I will give him a call.

Greg

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[OVRKILL]

Off the charts detail Ron....love....this....car! :bow:

Did I see you're going to SEMA?

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[Vegas69]

Man, does that look sweet. :thumbsup:

[Rick D]

Not bad I guess :rolleyes:

For garage build :P

J/k looks great Brett :cheers:

Ron I will call you tomorrow. But looks good for this week :woot:

[Track Junky]

Thats clean looking. Nice job Bret. :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Wow. Now THAT is a real PT Camaro. :unibrow: Looks killer.

[canrc]

Looks Great! :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Off the charts detail Ron....love....this....car! :bow:

Did I see you're going to SEMA?

Hey Brother! How's the monster doing? I'll be at SEMA, may drive the car there if Todd let's me park in his garage...:D

Man, does that look sweet. :thumbsup:

Not bad I guess :rolleyes:

For garage build :P

J/k looks great Brett :cheers:

Ron I will call you tomorrow. But looks good for this week :woot:

Thats clean looking. Nice job Bret. :thumbsup:

Wow. Now THAT is a real PT Camaro. :unibrow: Looks killer.

Looks Great! :thumbsup:

Thx fellas! Just for the record, Brett's holding out. Musta taken a page out of Marty's book. :lol:

[Lenie]

How are we all going to park in Todd's garage?:D :lol: Ron, there are no short cuts on your car dude, everything looks spectacular:thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

How are we all going to park in Todd's garage?:D :lol: Ron, there are no short cuts on your car dude, everything looks spectacular:thumbsup:

Thanks Lenie! Todd should have at least one extra spot by then. :lol:

[Lenie]

Thanks Lenie! Todd should have at least one extra spot by then. :lol:
Now that's funny!

[chr2002ca]

Gorgeous setup. Top-notch as always. :thumbsup:

[slenning]

Hey Steve! Thx for the compliment. Parts rolled in today, so an update is coming soon. Still have a few issues to sort out. Are you coming to SEMA this year? :cheers:

You bet!! Hope to see you AND your Camaro there and have a couple :cheers:

[OVRKILL]

Hey Brother! How's the monster doing? I'll be at SEMA, may drive the car there if Todd let's me park in his garage...:D


Monster is gettin close....may be updating my thread from "breaking the mold" to Project SEMA :_paranoid

I've got a spot out there, so its full court press time :unibrow:

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[tones2SS]

Looks great Ron.

[214Chevy]

I'm loving every stage of this build. You keep raisng the bar.:hail: :hail:

[waynieZ]

Thats a slick set up, Nice work.

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[FETorino]

I just can't get over the fact that Ron has 2 housings, who would have thought that. :lol:

[Matt@BOS]

I just can't get over the fact that Ron has 2 housings, who would have thought that. :lol:

6 months from now we're going to see an add in the for sale section.

"1969 Camaro project car. All pro touring parts included. all car needs is a shell. Item located in L.A. Would prefer local buyer. Freight shipping available at buyer's expense."

[Flash68]

Ron.... Sorry but you're still gonna have knock back. :lol:

[Ron in SoCal]

Ron.... Sorry but you're still gonna have knock back. :lol:

Haha...I sure hope not! :lol:

One thing I'd add is the housing is a protoype of SpeedTech's floater built by Speedway, Brett and me. It did take some trial and error and I can now recite every part in that thing in my sleep.

[Ron in SoCal]

I just can't get over the fact that Ron has 2 housings, who would have thought that. :lol:

6 months from now we're going to see an add in the for sale section.

"1969 Camaro project car. All pro touring parts included. all car needs is a shell. Item located in L.A. Would prefer local buyer. Freight shipping available at buyer's expense."

You guys are a riot. Besides, the ad comes out tomorrow.

[FETorino]

You guys are a riot. Besides, the ad comes out tomorrow.

It's a defense mechanism to deal with my parts envy issues..:rofl:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

However, These inner axel seals are required on a floater style rear end and they need to be placed on the inside of the pumpkin just at the start of the axel tubing.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Dead%20Pool%2069%20Camaro/IMG_3724.jpg



So Brett, talk to me about these inner seal races, it looks to be delrin supports in an aluminum race.

Is that a snap ring on top and how much force did it take to insert?

Looking good guys.

[Greg from Aus]

Awesome work as usual.

Greg

[Ron in SoCal]

So Brett, talk to me about these inner seal races, it looks to be delrin supports in an aluminum race.

Is that a snap ring on top and how much force did it take to insert?

Looking good guys.

Vince - alum race, rubber seals. No delrin, no snap ring. Hammer in carefully...:unibrow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Dead%20Pool%2069%20Camaro/IMG_3724.jpg


Nice addition ..looks like they're from the 'Bad Penny Signature Collection'. :unibrow:

[Flash68]

That's some NASA type shiat right there.... or something. :D

[Rick D]

Ummm I don't remember any talk of the hubs on the housing when we talked :woot: :woot: :woot:
Sweet very sweet!!

[intocarss]

2 rear ends

12 hubs

17 flywheels

1 1/2 Ls engs

and one incredible build

[Ron in SoCal]

Nice addition ..looks like they're from the 'Bad Penny Signature Collection'. :unibrow:

That's some NASA type shiat right there.... or something. :D

I'm ok w that...:lol:

[Ron in SoCal]

Ummm I don't remember any talk of the hubs on the housing when we talked :woot: :woot: :woot:
Sweet very sweet!!

Thx Rick! :cheers:

2 rear ends

12 hubs

17 flywheels

1 1/2 Ls engs

and one incredible build

Jerr you should see how many sets of lug nutz I have :lol: :lateral:

[wv nova]

man i can't find the paint code anywhere , can you guys help me?:cheers:

[FETorino]

Sad, but true...:lol:

Ok, so no pics but here's an update. Pretty much got to the end of my list @ JCG. Cris has alot of projects in the shop and SEMA will be here before we can blink so it was time to move the car outta there.

Seems like I do everything 3x and I'm still stuck in this mode but hopefully not for long. Also having painted or powdercoated parts drives some compromise. There was still some fab to be done and Mr. Fab53 offered to step in so off to his shop the car went. Brett squared the car every which way possible and rewelded the sub. Should be undercoat touched up by end of week. Brett is also fab'ing my subframe downbars to connect to my sub and double as a swaybar mount. This will save the p-coat. Brett's also adding a removable 5th diagonal link to my rollbar for added saftey.

In other news, with the car at ride height the rear wheels rubbed. I think this was caused more by my rear end width than the wheels ordered wrong (5.5" BS). I want it to sit right, so I took my rear over to Speedway for some mods. Also, had an offer to buy my wheels so I sold them and spoke to Frank. He gave me a smokin deal on some GW3s which get me to 19 in the rear. Unfortunately there is no good 100 TW option in 335/19 so I went w NT05s for now (da*n!); only other option is 30TW and I may go there after the Nittos get ground down. Wheels and tires should be in by end of next week and rear will be at the p-coater by then also.

We also need to do some rear shock relo to eliminate bind (not sure how that happened?) and trunk relief mods for exhaust clearance. This should be done by next week as well.

Once all this is done we start to put the car back together. The only thing left to do before wiring really is finish the oiling routing and motor breathing, do the final connection for fuel, brakes and clutch. Hoping to get all this done in the next 30 days.

Here's a fun milestone. I actually 'sat' in my car for the first time ever:
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Pics and details soon guys...:cheers:


Has 30 days passed yet? :_paranoid

At least post some more progress pics I know you're working on it. :D

[Rick D]

Yah come on Ron or Brett we need an update!! :cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

Has 30 days passed yet? :_paranoid

At least post some more progress pics I know you're working on it. :D

Sorry Mr. Personality :D , no pics. I've been out on the road and not seen the car in a few days. I know Brett's got some...:yes:

Yah come on Ron or Brett we need an update!! :cheers:

Ricky D! Here's an update for you...We got the drivetrain together, finally, and in the car. One of those milestone moments where we're not planning on taking it back out again. Harness is getting recovered and coolers/oiling getting micked up. Should have some serious progress and pics this week :cheers:

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[FETorino]

Sorry Mr. Personality :D , no pics. I've been out on the road and not seen the car in a few days. I know Brett's got some...:yes:





A few days..... heck I haven't seen my car since Jan.:(

I knew Bretts had you covered and Pics were coming. :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Them is some fine hard parts there...dawg.

:D

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[73CPCAMARO]

The car is coming along very nicely. You guys are doing nice work. Keep the photos coming. :thumbsup:

Brian

[fleetus macmullitz]

Should I still post the blow by blow sets leading up to these photos?

Just asking, so that I'm not considered the thread jacker. .

If you don't Brett, then you WILL be considered a 'thread jacker'!

:D

[Greg from Aus]

Bring them on, I have so much to learn :thumbsup:


Greg

[Rick D]

Ricky D! Here's an update for you...We got the drivetrain together, finally, and in the car. One of those milestone moments where we're not planning on taking it back out again. Harness is getting recovered and coolers/oiling getting micked up. Should have some serious progress and pics this week :cheers:

Sorry I should have said we needs picture update :lol: I already new all of that :thumbsup: I just love see the progress on this beast:cheers:

[Rick D]

Oops double post!

[Rick D]

Ask and you shall receive

Thank you Sir!!

Should I still post the blow by blow sets leading up to these photos?

Ummmmm yes please keep posting the detailed pictures and how to's :thumbsup:

Just asking, so that I'm not considered the thread jacker. Lots of good photos of the clutch and flywheel (I mean flywheels) install with mating of the trans to the engine. Photos on the engine harness and American Autowire set-up and installation...

Speaking of double parts I here you will have one less housing to worry about :unibrow:

[coolwelder62]

This build is coming along great.Ron,I hope you have it ready for RTTC next year.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Payton King]

Did you install inner tube seals for the floater?

[Ron in SoCal]

Them is some fine hard parts there...dawg.

:D

Fo Shizzle ma Nizzle :hail: :lol:

The car is coming along very nicely. You guys are doing nice work. Keep the photos coming. :thumbsup:

Brian

Thanks Brian. Also appreciate you taking me through Mike's oiling set up at Del Mar. That helped me alot :thumbsup:

This build is coming along great.Ron,I hope you have it ready for RTTC next year.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I sure hope so Scott. I'm kinda done making predictions cause all my good 'friends' call me on it. How does the saying go, 'deadlines are made to be missed?' :lol:

Did you install inner tube seals for the floater?

Yes Payton we doubled up on them - center section and axle ends. Between that and the center vent I'm hoping we keep the gear oil where it should be. Probably a losing battle though...

[Payton King]

make sure you vent each tube between the seals and you should be fine. You should have a total of 3 vents.

[Cris@JCG]

Good point Payton.. We are currently machining a part to do this on my housings..

Brett- Doing a great job!


make sure you vent each tube between the seals and you should be fine. You should have a total of 3 vents.

[Ron in SoCal]

make sure you vent each tube between the seals and you should be fine. You should have a total of 3 vents.

Good point Payton.. We are currently machining a part to do this on my housings..

Brett- Doing a great job!

That's what I thought as well and requested. Speedway engineer said the axle vents were not needed based on this design. We'll find out soon enough...

Cris are you referring to the GMR housing? Do they run inner (center section) seals?

[Payton King]

Sorry to miss you at Motor State.

Wish I knew the info first hand, but Randy Bell was having a problem with fluild pushing through the seals. The tube vents coupled with the center section vent fixed the problem...according to Ron's discussion with Randy.

I can steal information and ideas like no one else. LOL

[Cris@JCG]

If Speedway is good without it then you should be good.. but IMO you might blow the inner seals because you are creating pressure inside of those tubes.. & you might want to find a way to put set screws inside to retain the inner seals.. But that is what I think..

With all the issues that I have had with BB's rear-end.. I worked with Jason(GMR) on making my own housing the way I thought would work better.. Carrys more oil, Does not need inner axle seals but designed a way to keep the oil in the center section, & allows me a surface for my three link.. Last week Jason delivered three housings.. More to it.. but will show the end product later..


That's what I thought as well and requested. Speedway engineer said the axle vents were not needed based on this design. We'll find out soon enough...

Cris are you referring to the GMR housing? Do they run inner (center section) seals?

Payton- I am sure we will catch up here pretty soon @ a event!

Sorry to miss you at Motor State.

Wish I knew the info first hand, but Randy Bell was having a problem with fluild pushing through the seals. The tube vents coupled with the center section vent fixed the problem...according to Ron's discussion with Randy.

I can steal information and ideas like no one else. LOL

[Ron in SoCal]

Speaking of double parts I here you will have one less housing to worry about :unibrow:

Shipping in a couple days Bro :cheers:

[Rick D]

Shipping in a couple days Bro :cheers:

:thumbsup: No rush buddy!! :cheers:

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Wow you are Human after all... those wood blocks are not lined up prefectly down the sides :P :D Once again GREAT JOB on everything

[Track Junky]

Whatta ya say Ron......want to join the Vette renting club for Buttonwillow?:unibrow:

[FETorino]

Whatta ya say Ron......want to join the Vette renting club for Buttonwillow?:unibrow:

Personally I was thinking just buy a Miata and throw it away afterwards :unibrow:

Ron might actually make it. :thumbsup:

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Fair enough, Charge on my friend!! :thumbsup:

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[Gandalf]

So, Ron has a few flywheels laying around and I thought what a perfect time to show some differences that will help with future selection.

"FUTURE" selection??!! What is this "future" thing? Tell Tron to just close his eyes and pick one LOL!!

Keep it coming guys - looking good!

G.

[MillerBuilt]

That's what I thought as well and requested. Speedway engineer said the axle vents were not needed based on this design. We'll find out soon enough...

Cris are you referring to the GMR housing?Do they run inner (center section) seals?


Hi Ron,

Your project is looking solid!

Figured I would answer this question. Yes and No, we do recommend the usage of "inner" axle tube seals BUT..... really feel they are best suited for dedicated track cars. The reason for this recommendation is the likely hood that gear oil could make its way past this inner seal unknowingly during every day driving, auto-x, open track, etc., trapping precious gear oil in the axle tube and away from the center section potentially causing damage. These seals have proven to be very effective in racing environments but are usually inspected after each race by removing the 3rd member (or hub dust cap in Full Floater applications to see if oil is present, which if present would be a good indicator that the inner seal has leaked). In a street driven application we feel this type inspection may not be desirable every few hundred miles to assure the inner seal is functioning properly, and is the reason for our “track only” recommendation.

Hope this was helpful.

Jay

[Ron in SoCal]

Hi Ron,

Your project is looking solid!

Figured I would answer this question. Yes and No, we do recommend the usage of "inner" axle tube seals BUT..... really feel they are best suited for dedicated track cars. The reason for this recommendation is the likely hood that gear oil could make its way past this inner seal unknowingly during every day driving, auto-x, open track, etc., trapping precious gear oil in the axle tube and away from the center section potentially causing damage. These seals have proven to be very effective in racing environments but are usually inspected after each race by removing the 3rd member (or hub dust cap in Full Floater applications to see if oil is present, which if present would be a good indicator that the inner seal has leaked). In a street driven application we feel this type inspection may not be desirable every few hundred miles to assure the inner seal is functioning properly, and is the reason for our “track only” recommendation.

Hope this was helpful.

Jay

Really good point Jay. My hub dust cap is not a positive seal (inner seal seems to be; it takes a hammer to get it in!), so any oil past the inner or outer seal will show up somewhere. My key take away from your post is to watch the gear oil regularly, which is something I do on my junk...:cheers:

[Track Junky]

"FUTURE" selection??!! What is this "future" thing? Tell Tron to just close his eyes and pick one LOL!!

Keep it coming guys - looking good!

G.

Isn't that how he ended up with so many extra parts in the first place :P :lol:

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:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:

[Track Junky]

Great stuff Bret, Keep it Coming :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

That is great info, I've just run into some similar issues on another T56 we were dealing with.

[Gandalf]

Awesome attention to detail Brett - small things like writing those measurements where someone else might see them later can make all the difference.

G.

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Always a great moment of anticipation and excitement before insertion. You don't want to be off or you could bend or even break your shaft trying to force it at the wrong angle.

[Ron in SoCal]

Always a great moment of anticipation and excitement before insertion. You don't want to be off or you could bend or even break your shaft trying to force it at the wrong angle.

Dude...I made that bone head move so many times I lost count.

[GregWeld]

I was waiting for a replay of the TV show with Boyd Coddington's shop when a couple of his boneheads were hammering on the trans and jamming it in and doing all manor of destructive maneuvers... I haven't watched TV since I shot them both on screen... :willy: :lol:

But then I snapped out of my delirium and realized that this was a PROFESSIONAL installation!

[GregWeld]

Always a great moment of anticipation and excitement before insertion. You don't want to be off or you could bend or even break your shaft trying to force it at the wrong angle.



Only happens in San Diego..... and San Francisco.... NEVER in Vegas! :rofl:

[Blake Foster]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
NOTHING ever happens in VEGAS...........

[Vince@Meanstreets]

lol thats cause you guys always stay on the nice end...oh wait ya your right...whats Vegas.

Hey Ron, you said bone head. :D

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[frankv11]

I see your showing the boy some skills , thats great!!!!

[Gandalf]

Now the engine and transmission are ready for their final installation.
Congrats guys - HUGE milestone! (and brave words indeed but I have faith in you :unibrow:)


I'm sure these things have been in and out many times over the course of this build.
Amen to that :thumbsup:

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[frankv11]

ronn you lucky dogg, your car is coming together!

[Matt@BOS]

Once again I am reminded that I need to come by and check things out!

Matt

[Rick D]

Great progress Brett, moving along nicely. Just wondering on the wiring, is that for the LS motor also or just the basics headlights and such.

[Lenie]

Ron, looks great. Get your garage ready, won't be long.:thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

ronn you lucky dogg, your car is coming together!

Thx Frankie. I've got those metal thingys for you. Call you next week!

Once again I am reminded that I need to come by and check things out!

Matt

Yep. Last couple car/shop visits were parts drops. Maybe next weekend? :cheers:

Great progress Brett, moving along nicely. Just wondering on the wiring, is that for the LS motor also or just the basics headlights and such.

Rick I'm using the modified LS harness from PSI + the AAW car harness kit. I'm pretty sure Painless makes an LS harness to go with their kits, maybe AAW does too?

Ron, looks great. Get your garage ready, won't be long.:thumbsup:

Thx Lenie! :cheers: So much yet to do, but we're getting closer :)

[srh3trinity]

Cool sculpture. I am jealous, I am 32 and have never even touched a welder (I hope to change that)

[GregWeld]

Coming along nicely....


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[DOOM]

Gotta love progress!!! Lookin awesome Ron!!

[waynieZ]

Definitely looking good!

[214Chevy]

Dang it!! I'm at my part time job and can't see the pics due to the filter on the computer. I"m sure the pics are on point. Can't wait until I get home at 8:30 pm to see them. Long time from now though. LOL!! All I see know is the box with the little red "x" in it.:mad: :mad:

[Rybar]

So this is officially the last time that drivetrain goes in until it blows up one day? ;) Looks awesome Ron. congrats. :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

Looking good Bret!! :thumbsup:

[Matt@BOS]

So this is officially the last time that drivetrain goes in until it blows up one day? ;) Looks awesome Ron. congrats. :thumbsup:

This is Ron we are talking about. I bet the engine will get some kind of upgrade work after seeing no more than 2000 miles.

Matt

[coolwelder62]

This is going to be a very nice build.Lookin Good RON.!!!!:thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Cool sculpture. I am jealous, I am 32 and have never even touched a welder (I hope to change that)

Yeah it's been since high school metal shop for me, and no Migs! Plus the kid doing the welding is better looking than anyone else who's touched the car! :lol:

Coming along nicely....


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Gotta love progress!!! Lookin awesome Ron!!

Thx Greg and Mario! :cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

Definitely looking good!

Thx Wayne. Time for an update of your own Brother...:thumbsup:

Dang it!! I'm at my part time job and can't see the pics due to the filter on the computer. I"m sure the pics are on point. Can't wait until I get home at 8:30 pm to see them. Long time from now though. LOL!! All I see know is the box with the little red "x" in it.:mad: :mad:

Are you home yet? :D

[Ron in SoCal]

So this is officially the last time that drivetrain goes in until it blows up one day? ;) Looks awesome Ron. congrats. :thumbsup:

This is Ron we are talking about. I bet the engine will get some kind of upgrade work after seeing no more than 2000 miles.

Matt

Ah, Matt knows me too well. The heads come off in 2k miles. There's at least a bronze valve guide upgrade that shoulda been done. :lateral:

[Ron in SoCal]

Looking good Bret!! :thumbsup:

This is going to be a very nice build.Lookin Good RON.!!!!:thumbsup:

Thanks fellas! :cheers: Scott, can you make time for SEMA this year? First beer's on me!

[cencalc6]

Looking Good Ron! and as always Great Work Bret :cheers:

[FETorino]

Looks great :thumbsup: It must be a good feeling to be that close.

What do you think Ron another 29 days :unibrow:

[intocarss]

Is it done yet? :willy:

[Ron in SoCal]

Looks great :thumbsup: It must be a good feeling to be that close.

What do you think Ron another 29 days :unibrow:

Is it done yet? :willy:

You guys need a personality transplant...:lol:

[FETorino]

You guys need a personality transplant...:lol:

I know if you could you'd help us out . :rofl: :rofl:

[OVRKILL]

Can't wait to see it Ron!

Of course the reason is two fold as mine will be done too!!! :thumbsup:

[214Chevy]

Dang it!! I'm at my part time job and can't see the pics due to the filter on the computer. I"m sure the pics are on point. Can't wait until I get home at 8:30 pm to see them. Long time from now though. LOL!! All I see know is the box with the little red "x" in it.:mad: :mad:

Are you home yet? :D

Sorry Ron, I didn't look at anything last night. LOL!! After I got home and played with my 7 month old son, well chased him around because he's crawling now, I was dog tired. LOL!! Pics are sweet. Motor looks at home sitting in there. Won't be long now, huh?:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[chr2002ca]

Lookin' good Ron. Brett's doing a great job. Sorted out beautifully. :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

So with all the action goin on around here, Brett threw me a bone last night:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/DeadPool9-14-12.jpg

Always nice to see it off the rack and getting some fresh air! He claims he's driving it yet I know he's not cause I still have the keys...:lol:

Lookin' good Ron. Brett's doing a great job. Sorted out beautifully. :thumbsup:

Yes he is Chris. So r u :thumbsup:

[Gandalf]

Photoshopped ;-)

Congrats man - serious milestone! And just in time for RTTC - woot!!

G.

[Spiffav8]

Looking good! :yes:

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[FETorino]

Ron is correct, I have been out driving around and enjoying is car. And it is ready for RTTC.

However, he has asked me to change a few things and now we need to pull it apart so we can return a few things.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


I cal dibs on the wheels :rofl: :lol: :rofl:

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[Ron in SoCal]

Thx Curtis and G!

Ron is correct, I have been out driving around and enjoying is car. And it is ready for RTTC.

However, he has asked me to change a few things and now we need to pull it apart so we can return a few things.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

So that's about 99% true. Unfortunately the Fab53 non-destructive testing was destructive so we need to replace the breakable parts; big PITA but better now than later! :cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

I cal dibs on the wheels :rofl: :lol: :rofl:

Man I am way too predictable! 2x I heard that joke in the last 24 hours :lol:

Besides Robo, that's a GM bolt pattern :D

[Rybar]

That thing looks awesome, congrats Ron

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[Gandalf]

One of the other things that Ron requested was to clean up the existing engine wire harness covering. Which is good, because Im also not a fan of the platic corrugated covering. I have seen it melt and it collects lots of oil and dust from the engine compartment.

Ta DA..... now it's ready for me to route everything nice and tighty. Before I pull the wire tight, I will need to intall the intake, injectors, and all the engine accessories on the front.

Nice! The clear-loom covering....I like it. Easy to trace wiring that way ;-)

Funny - just sent you a couple PM's about this very thing. I'm sure you already have something up your sleeve lol.

Also a note sent about the steam tube plumbing - if not done already, it's a good time to plan that one too with the intake/TB out of the way but still with a mock-up or two to go and while you have easy access to the WP.

G.

[FETorino]

Besides Robo, that's a GM bolt pattern :D

I ordered my floater in a GM pattern and didn't pay extra for a Ford drilling of my front spindles planning to recycle one of your wheel sets :unibrow:

The progress looks pretty cool. Even if you took a minor step back you are miles ahead of where I'm at :( and I am envious of the progress you're making :hail:

Heck I'd be stoked if I could get all my parts in the same State.

[Rick D]

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/DeadPool9-14-12.jpg:

now that's what I'm talking about!! :thumbsup: Looking great guys!

[Cole]

Looks good Ron. Thanks for sharing!

[waynieZ]

It looks Awesome Ron! Your making it tough for me being stuck in the house seeing all this great progress. Very Nice!

[intocarss]

:yes: :yes: :yes: :thumbsup:

[killer67]

Are the valve covers off of a Gen V Camaro? Like 'em :thumbsup:

[coolwelder62]

Ron, I am really liking the direction your have headed w/the build.1st.Class.:thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

That thing looks awesome, congrats Ron

Thx Ry!

Nice! The clear-loom covering....I like it. Easy to trace wiring that way ;-)

Funny - just sent you a couple PM's about this very thing. I'm sure you already have something up your sleeve lol.

Also a note sent about the steam tube plumbing - if not done already, it's a good time to plan that one too with the intake/TB out of the way but still with a mock-up or two to go and while you have easy access to the WP.

G.

Clear loom! Why didn't I think of that? :lol: Call you tomorrow G!

The progress looks pretty cool. Even if you took a minor step back you are miles ahead of where I'm at :( and I am envious of the progress you're making :hail:

Heck I'd be stoked if I could get all my parts in the same State.

Soon enough Rob, we'll have two sets of eyes on your project :thumbsup:

now that's what I'm talking about!! :thumbsup: Looking great guys!

Thx Rick!

It looks Awesome Ron! Your making it tough for me being stuck in the house seeing all this great progress. Very Nice!

Wayne, just get better. There's a downhill slide on hip rehab and a few more weeks you'll be there :cheers:

:yes: :yes: :yes: :thumbsup:

Jerr...:cheers:

Are the valve covers off of a Gen V Camaro? Like 'em :thumbsup:

Hey man...5th Gen all the way! :D They're GMPP.

Ron, I am really liking the direction your have headed w/the build.1st.Class.:thumbsup:

Thx Scott. I need to talk to you too. See you at SEMA! :thumbsup:

[Tom.A]

Looks great. Hurry up and get this going so we can get some road rash on it:D

[Payton King]

Once the wiring is done, you are all but home free.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Still going with a LS?



:lol:

[Ron in SoCal]

Once the wiring is done, you are all but home free.

Thx Payton! Lots of little bits to do, but getting closer. I'm gonna miss you at the LatG party but hopefully we'll connect at Optima if not before...

Still going with a LS?

:lol:

Skip thinking of trading up for a big block, SB2 or R07. Know any candidates? :cool: :D

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[Flash68]

Thx Payton! Lots of little bits to do, but getting closer. I'm gonna miss you at the LatG party but hopefully we'll connect at Optima if not before...



Skip thinking of trading up for a big block, SB2 or R07. Know any candidates? :cool: :D

Ron, could you handle being a soldier in the SB2 Army? :D

Nice signature on the block. :lateral:

Brett -- I always love clean and organized layout of stuff. My favorite part of Stielow's book and you're a believer. Customers appreciate that stuff. :thumbsup:

[72Z/28]

One of the other things that Ron requested was to clean up the existing engine wire harness covering. Which is good, because Im also not a fan of the platic corrugated covering. I have seen it melt and it collects lots of oil and dust from the engine compartment.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Dead%20Pool%2069%20Camaro/IMG_3860-1.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Dead%20Pool%2069%20Camaro/IMG_4017.jpg
So, with some effort and a little patience, I was able to provide this stuff back to Ron (maybe he can try and return it) :lol:

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Dead%20Pool%2069%20Camaro/IMG_4016.jpg

Ta DA..... now it's ready for me to route everything nice and tighty. Before I pull the wire tight, I will need to intall the intake, injectors, and all the engine accessories on the front.

Looks awesome man, just wondering from where you got the grommet to run the wiring harness through the firewall? Also, what size hole did you make to run the harness?

[Ron in SoCal]

Looks awesome man, just wondering from where you got the grommet to run the wiring harness through the firewall? Also, what size hole did you make to run the harness?

Thx man. It's a 2" hole I believe and the grommet came w the harness from PSI Conversions:

www.psiconversion.com

[paydirt]

:thumbsup:

[OVRKILL]

*praying that nasty loom is going to gone for good*


Likin that Katech stuff Ron ;)

[Ron in SoCal]

*praying that nasty loom is going to gone for good*


Likin that Katech stuff Ron ;)

Yeah, nice hook up huh? I know people...:lol: :cheers:

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[FETorino]

I thought you stopped working on this to finish some projects for the big hitters :rofl: :rofl:

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[FETorino]

Fess up Rob, you were snooping around asking about a roll cage..... Which would make you a big hitter with that RS frame and everything. :lol:

:cheers:

There is no shame in admitting that I am hoping to have the Fab53 skunkworks grace my project with some fab work. :D You have to work on something other than a Camaro every once in a while. :rofl:

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[coolwelder62]

Coil mounting bracket's are pretty cool.Nice deteil work.:thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Always impressed....:thumbsup:



... by the automotive fab work stuff too. :unibrow:

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/Chimchim.jpg

[FETorino]

I do work other projects rather than Camaros, These requested hood ornaments should look at home on your car. :unibrow:

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Art%20work%20stuff/IMG_4108_zps067d4207.jpg
The "Im driving a beat up Ford" look ornament

and the 5' tall stainless steel
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Art%20work%20stuff/IMG_4110_zpsb287e948.jpg
"small pen*s syndrome" hood ornament.

:rofl: :rofl:
:cheers:

As much as I like the idea of the look at me "SPS" ornament it's already ben done so may times on a first gen I'm looking for something different. Us little guys have to stick together so I know I'm in good hands with you cooking something up. :unibrow:

[Ron in SoCal]

Thx guys for all the comments :thumbsup: and Brett, always appreciate the precise attention to detail. :cheers:

Aeromotive rails ship w tall and short mounting brackets. Comp Preformance (Fast 65lb injectors) could not tell me if I needed the injector extension collars or not to clear on a factory intake w the Aero rails, so I bought them just in case. I'm pretty sure if I go w a FAST 102 in the future they'll come in handy, but the Aeromotive rails will probably be useless.

Betcha Gregg knows the answer to that...:yes:

[FETorino]

Thx guys for all the comments :thumbsup: and Brett, always appreciate the precise attention to detail. :cheers:

Aeromotive rails ship w tall and short mounting brackets. Comp Preformance (Fast 65lb injectors) could not tell me if I needed the injector extension collars or not to clear on a factory intake w the Aero rails, so I bought them just in case. I'm pretty sure if I go w a FAST 102 in the future they'll come in handy, but the Aeromotive rails will probably be useless.

Betcha Gregg knows the answer to that...:yes:

Geeze Ron I was trying to send your thread way off course like DGs and you reeled it back in.

What led you to use the FAST injectors and Aeromotive rail if it was an unknown combo?

The motor is starting to get that, I'm done, look it has to be exciting to be so close.

[intocarss]

What led you to use the FAST injectors and Aeromotive rail if it was an unknown combo?

Cuz Ron lives on the edge!!! :_paranoid

[Ron in SoCal]

Geeze Ron I was trying to send your thread way off course like DGs and you reeled it back in..

That was exactly a page out of Gordon's playbook. He's so predictable that his thumbprint transcends other people's threads and comments...:lol:

What led you to use the FAST injectors and Aeromotive rail if it was an unknown combo?

The motor is starting to get that, I'm done, look it has to be exciting to be so close.

Cuz Ron lives on the edge!!! :_paranoid

Yeah, hate to admit it but that was a F up. QMP spec'd the injector flow rate for the motor build. I had Fast rails in anticipation of a future intake upgrade, but they don't work on factory LS7 manifolds (injector angle is different). Comp told me the rails would work and based on their advice the injectors needed the spacers. Unfortunatley that didn't work either. Once i proved it to them they sent me a box to ship it back for credit. They were pretty cool about it, just another one of those hot roddin' PITA moments....

[FETorino]

Well that's typical of our hobby and a better story than "The Aeromotive rails are more showtouring" :rofl:

[Gandalf]

Aeromotive rails ship w tall and short mounting brackets. Comp Preformance (Fast 65lb injectors) could not tell me if I needed the injector extension collars or not to clear on a factory intake w the Aero rails, so I bought them just in case. I'm pretty sure if I go w a FAST 102 in the future they'll come in handy, but the Aeromotive rails will probably be useless.

Betcha Gregg knows the answer to that...:yes:

Without modifying/fabricating the brackets, the Aeromotive LS7 rails won't work with the FAST LSX-R intake for the LS7. I think Katech and others have made those modifications.

As for the spacers, you should not need those in either situation if you stay with the shorter injector and the same basic rail height.

G.

[FETorino]

When this car grows up it will be a really nice all around machine. Despite it being a Camaro. :unibrow:

[Ron in SoCal]

Stielow's not on line tonight, so no grown ups here :yep:

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[bonecrrusher]

I went back to page 78 - couldnt find the pics.

Do the GMPP Camaro valve covers come with the bolt holes in them that you used for the Katech coils?

I was looking at those covers for my C6, move the coils, and get rid of the FRC's.

Thanks,
Craig

[chr2002ca]

I'm guessing you're using the Vaporworx tank with the regulator in the tank and no return line necessary? That sure makes it simple at the engine. Clean setup as usual for you guys. Great work. :thumbsup: I'm jealous. I'm planning out my new setup at the engine and a flow-through design with a regulator at the engine and return line is double the trouble(and cost for extra fittings, hose, etc).

Don't you just love how those simple little Aeromotive ORB fittings at the end of the rails are $20 a pop? Must be something in that little rubber ring we don't know about.

[214Chevy]

Thanks for the lesson Brett. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I love it Ron...looking good!!:yes: :yes:

[Ron in SoCal]

I went back to page 78 - couldnt find the pics.

Do the GMPP Camaro valve covers come with the bolt holes in them that you used for the Katech coils?

I was looking at those covers for my C6, move the coils, and get rid of the FRC's.

Thanks,
Craig

Hey Craig - good on you for trying! I woulda gave up long before that :D The valve covers need to be drilled and tapped. FRCs are for the die hard Vette crowd...:lol: (kidding fellas!)

I'm guessing you're using the Vaporworx tank with the regulator in the tank and no return line necessary? That sure makes it simple at the engine. Clean setup as usual for you guys. Great work. :thumbsup: I'm jealous. I'm planning out my new setup at the engine and a flow-through design with a regulator at the engine and return line is double the trouble(and cost for extra fittings, hose, etc).

Don't you just love how those simple little Aeromotive ORB fittings at the end of the rails are $20 a pop? Must be something in that little rubber ring we don't know about.

Hey buddy, yes in tank CTSV set up w no return line. It gets pretty crowded underhood no matter what you do. Much respect to the guys that hide everything!

Hated buying those FR fittings! The Y was $50 IIRC. I of course bought more than I needed and have a few left over.

Thanks for the lesson Brett. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I love it Ron...looking good!!:yes: :yes:

Thx Marcus. Can I please have an update on your little boy and car? :cheers:

[214Chevy]

Thx Marcus. Can I please have an update on your little boy and car? :cheers:

My son has gotten so big Ron and is crawling now and into everything. He's almost 9 months. The car...well, is coming along slowly. As soon as I have an update worth something I will definately post it. Thanks for asking. Yours is coming along so sweet! :hail: :hail:

[tones2SS]

That looks really good. Nice job guys.
Your car is turning out really nice Ron!

[frankv11]

bret, appreciate the time you take to put up images and explanations.
excellent job

[69x22]

Looking good Ron.

[Rick D]

Lookin good Ron and Brett :cheers:

[DOOM]

That Brett dude is one talented MOFO!!!!!! I gotta tell ya..

[70rs]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Cole]

Hey Ron, any updates?? You have to be getting close..

[fleetus macmullitz]

Hey Ron, any updates?? You have to be getting close..

Yeah, wheelie close.

[Rick D]

Yeah, wheelie close.

:lol:

[OVRKILL]

Tick, tock.....:_paranoid

[efs69]

Looks great so far. Any new shots?

[frankv11]

ron maybe driving it :unibrow: to sema

[Ron in SoCal]

Yeah, wheelie close.

:lol:

Poppin' wheelies everyday :lol:

Tick, tock.....:_paranoid

Looks great so far. Any new shots?

ron maybe driving it :unibrow: to sema

Yeah I know. Would love to drive it out to SEMA, but we're in that unintentional quiet period of wiring, plumbing, etc. Updates coming soon! :cheers:

[OVRKILL]

but we're in that unintentional quiet period of wiring, plumbing, etc.

Hey, I know that place! :rofl:

[FETorino]

I'm sure Brett has made some progress lets see it. :D

[XLexusTech]

Just read most of this... just over 1hr ...

Ran first sorry about the truck fire but things seems to be morphing into amazing...:thumbsup: talk about turning a bad situation around...

few questions...
what accessory kit is that? I am using the same Subframe and neeed to move the alternator up .
What are the specs on the front wheel and tire? Backspace and tire size.
the wheels that came with the car originally are those ccw or forumla43 by any chance?

:hail:

[Ron in SoCal]

I'm sure Brett has made some progress lets see it. :D

Yes he has. Front of engine bay is pretty much done, but Brett needed to get the sheetmetal back on to reference where coolers, oil can will go. With that he also gapped the car and got it as good if not better then before. I had changed subfr bushings when the car came back from Indy, so that was not without challenges. I thinik it came out great...:cheers:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/DeadPool10-20-12.jpg

Also busy sourcing little stuff. V-Band clamps, fittings like the one Greg mentioned below.

Personally I'd use a full flow SWIVEL end where that tight 90 is....

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AER-FBM4032/



Just read most of this... just over 1hr ...

Ran first sorry about the truck fire but things seems to be morphing into amazing...:thumbsup: talk about turning a bad situation around...

few questions...
what accessory kit is that? I am using the same Subframe and neeed to move the alternator up .
What are the specs on the front wheel and tire? Backspace and tire size.
the wheels that came with the car originally are those ccw or forumla43 by any chance?

:hail:

Thx for the props! I'm running the Wegner kit. Didn't you order your sub from Jake? I'm running Art's. My front wheels are 18x10 w 6.9 BS; I was kinda surprised yours was specced to 8" BS, but certainly Jake knows his stuff. The tire is a Nitto NT05 285/35. Looks like it'll clear everywhere except the outter fender lip. I'm pretty sure more fender rolling is in order. Original wheels were HREs.

[FETorino]

Original wheels were HREs.

I'm surprised you remember that wasn't that like 15 sets ago? :rofl: :cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

I'm surprised you remember that wasn't that like 15 sets ago? :rofl: :cheers:

It's good that you're paying attention grasshopper. It's not an official PT car unless you change wheels at least once ... :lol:

[KPC67]

Ha true story Ron.
Looks Great bud:thumbsup:

[Gandalf]

Lookin' great guys - keep up the progress.... SEMA is just around the corner ;-)

More pics, more pics......
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
G.

[waynieZ]

Looks sweet Ron!

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[Matt@BOS]

Lookin' great guys - keep up the progress.... SEMA is just around the corner ;-)

More pics, more pics......
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
G.

SEMA? Will any vendors commit to taking Ron's car? He changes parts so frequently. Still, he cant be as bad as that guy who started taking his car apart, and had his whole dash out when he got a call telling him to move in :lol:

[intocarss]

Ok, I see this is back alive and up top of the food chain again. So, I better get some pics up.

Yeah you better :D

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/thCALL3FTK.jpg

[Cole]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/thCALL3FTK.jpg

Hahahhha

[Flash68]

I think Ron is out on a dual BBC blown boat somewhere.

[FETorino]

I think Ron is out on a dual BBC blown boat somewhere.

Nah there will be another wheel purchase update soon I'm sure.:willy:
:cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/thCALL3FTK.jpg

Hahahhha

I think Ron is out on a dual BBC blown boat somewhere.

Nah there will be another wheel purchase update soon I'm sure.:willy:
:cheers:

With friends like this, who needs...friends like this? jk fellas! :D

Update coming soon. I was in the midwest all week...:cheers:

[Rick D]

I was in the midwest all week...:cheers:

And you didn't call :mad:

[DOOM]

And you didn't call :mad:

Yea WTF!!!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

And you didn't call :mad:

Yea WTF!!!!

Ron is wheelie a minor celebrity now...and in case you don't know the new protocol, he doesn't call you, you call his personal assistant.

Should be a sticky on this somewhere. :rolleyes:

[GregWeld]

Oooooooooooooo....... I sense a public lynching on a certain Wednesday night.


FIGHT!!!!!!!!!


:rofl:

[DOOM]

Ron is wheelie a minor celebrity now...and in case you don't know the new protocol, he doesn't call you, you call his personal assistant.

Should be a sticky on this somewhere. :rolleyes:

:censored:in EXCUSE ME!!!! Can you get his peoples info for me Skip:question: :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

:censored:in EXCUSE ME!!!! Can you get his peoples info for me Skip:question: :D

Sure, its 1-RON-SFL-UNKY

[Ron in SoCal]

And you didn't call :mad:

Yea WTF!!!!

Yea, and where's Marty?!? :lol:

Seriously guys, really sorry for my lack of manners. Was traveling w clients and workmates. I'll be back before year end and will not make the same mistrake. :cheers:

Oooooooooooooo....... I sense a public lynching on a certain Wednesday night.


FIGHT!!!!!!!!!


:rofl:

Troublemaker...I won't be there Wed :P :lol:

[Rick D]

Ok ok I'll let it slide this time :D But next time you are headed this way, I'll pick up Marty so he's not left out. Marios on his own to get there he lives to far south :P First drinks on me :yes:

[FETorino]

Seriously guys, really sorry for my lack of manners. Was traveling w clients and workmates. I'll be back before year end and will not make the same mistrake. :cheers:




Don't feel that bad Ron, when I was out there Jim and I couldn't get Rick out of his lair for a beer. In all fairness it must have been at least 7pm on a work night. :willy: