69 Camaro Project - Dead Pool

[70rs]

So? Wassup? :D

[Ron in SoCal]

^ Recouping from SEMA. Wazzup w you bro? haha, JK!

I need to switch the coil brackets Katech sent w the mounts and the motor is done. I have a pic if anyone wants to see it. Also, Cris and I will meet on Sat and review some project planning and then the cut off wheel will come out. I'll post updated pics soon! :thumbsup:

[214Chevy]

...... I have a pic if anyone wants to see it.

What do you mean "if anyone wants to see it." Hell to the yeah we do. So, quit slacking Ron and post the dang on pics. :nopic: :nopic:

[Cris@JCG]

Ron- You are gonna have to change your avatar for a while! :D ANother hour.. & we would have left her on blocks..

We start your DSE cage tomorrow..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1715.jpg

[GregWeld]

If you'd have sent this car to Scott -- it'd be done in 6 weeks.... WTF?!

:rofl:

[Ron in SoCal]

What do you mean "if anyone wants to see it." Hell to the yeah we do. So, quit slacking Ron and post the dang on pics. :nopic: :nopic:

OK Marcus, here you go:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2011-10-29_11-03-04_783.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2011-10-29_11-03-20_255.jpg

Not done yet!

Ron- You are gonna have to change your avatar for a while! :D ANother hour.. & we would have left her on blocks..

We start your DSE cage tomorrow..

Oh Jeez Cris. First you're 'bizzier' than snot this AM and then you post this. I'm not sure I can watch after the thrash getting it ready to go on the truck!

If you'd have sent this car to Scott -- it'd be done in 6 weeks.... WTF?!

:rofl:

Hey now, Greg! If I'd sent it to Scott, I would've had to wait for him to finish Cochiese! :lol:

Nice chatting with you @ SEMA.

[MaxHarvard]

Lookin sweet!

[OVRKILL]

Uuuuhhhh, Ron? I think the coil relocates should be the least of your concerns :wow:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1715.jpg


Lol, needs an intake :lol: (and more shiny stuff....;) )

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2011-10-29_11-03-04_783.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

Lookin sweet!

Thx Eric!

Uuuuhhhh, Ron? I think the coil relocates should be the least of your concerns :wow:

Lol, needs an intake :lol: (and more shiny stuff....;) )

Yeah, no kidding. I did find this @ SEMA -

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2011-11-03_16-34-49_815.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2011-11-03_16-34-20_168.jpg

[Jay Hilliard]

Very nice Ron. I love the valve covers. Car is looking awesome.

[tones2SS]

Looking great Ron.

[Big-Head]

Ron- You are gonna have to change your avatar for a while! :D ANother hour.. & we would have left her on blocks..

We start your DSE cage tomorrow..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1715.jpg

Hey Ron,

could you please PM me on where you purchased the radiator support.

Thanks,

Alex

[War]

Thx Eric!



Yeah, no kidding. I did find this @ SEMA -

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2011-11-03_16-34-49_815.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2011-11-03_16-34-20_168.jpg

That's funny Ron, I spied that too. Nice piece just looked like the runners where a little short but very well made.
Sorry I didn't make it to Alberts party.

[intocarss]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news Ron, But someone stripped your car while you were at SEMA :willy:

[Ron in SoCal]

:D Very nice Ron. I love the valve covers. Car is looking awesome.

Thx Jay. You got yourself a beautiful car too!

That's funny Ron, I spied that too. Nice piece just looked like the runners where a little short but very well made.
Sorry I didn't make it to Alberts party.

Jason, was looking for you there and it was a blast! This intake is made more for drag racing I think. It sucks so much air, the RMP range starts at 4500 - maybe more! I told the guy I'd be his mule. He didn't bite...:lol:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news Ron, But someone stripped your car while you were at SEMA :willy:

I know Jerry! F'n thieves...:D

[OVRKILL]

Talked to the same guy Ron....though the LS7 runner would be too short for your application, he could configure the LS3 manifold to fit. Just sayin...:unibrow:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/lpe403/SEMA%202011/054b9f73.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

Talked to the same guy Ron....though the LS7 runner would be too short for your application, he could configure the LS3 manifold to fit. Just sayin...:unibrow:

Ha, then I'd be changing my hood! Hmmm....:cool:

[70rs]

Ha, then I'd be changing my hood! Hmmm....:cool:

STICK to the PLAN MAN. LOL!

[Track Junky]

It sucks when plan A gets fumbled but the new hood and the repaint are a drop in the bugget for this build. Every other part on this car is top notch. I say go for it!! :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

STICK to the PLAN MAN. LOL!

It sucks when plan A gets fumbled but the new hood and the repaint are a drop in the bugget for this build. Every other part on this car is top notch. I say go for it!! :thumbsup:

Eric's correct. I am sticking to the plan! Cris decided to tear the front off to protect the paint with all the welding and cutting going on. We are also masking w 3m weld paper. There are parts of the paint that needs a little fixin' and we think there'll be cut/buff before it comes back home. Thx for the props Gae!

[Hugger67RSSS]

Ron just so you know I picked up the old 9 inch from your car yesterday. You have some more money to spend on your car. Good luck with the build. Thanks!

Aarik

[Ron in SoCal]

Thx Aarik! I have a couple more things you could use if you're interested! How about a build thread on your sweet 68? :thumbsup:

[Gandalf]

Ron just so you know I picked up the old 9 inch from your car yesterday. Aarik

The "old" 9"?! How could anything be old yet? lol. Get 'er done Ron. Plan schman - just do it - that intake is pure sex magic!
Engine looks great - more pics please....

Can't wait to see it done. Keep us posted - cheers! :cheers:
Gregg

[Ron in SoCal]

The "old" 9"?! How could anything be old yet? lol. Get 'er done Ron. Plan schman - just do it - that intake is pure sex magic!
Engine looks great - more pics please....

Can't wait to see it done. Keep us posted - cheers! :cheers:
Gregg

Seems like I have two of many things. You know what's like, right Gregg? BTW, you got some 'splainin to do around here:

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?75269-Project-quot-Jane-Doe-quot-at-Best-of-Show-Coachworks-69-Camaro&p=851417#post851417

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[OVRKILL]

You have some more money to spend on your car.

:woot: Intake and hood here we come!!!!














(sorry Ron, its more fun spending someone else's money for a change :lol: )

[Track Junky]

:woot: Intake and hood here we come!!

Thats what I'm talkin' about!!

[frankv11]

damm ron that thing is getting out hand, stop it!:thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Who better to get this car even more attention than SEMA's latest rock star goin Gonzo on it.

:lol:

[Hugger67RSSS]

I guess I shouldn't say old when it has 0 miles on it huh? Let me know what else you have. I will get a thread posted once football season is over with and make some progress on the car.

[Ron in SoCal]

:woot: Intake and hood here we come!!!!


(sorry Ron, its more fun spending someone else's money for a change :lol: )

Thats what I'm talkin' about!!

You guys spend my $$$ better than my GF....:rolleyes:

damm ron that thing is getting out hand, stop it!:thumbsup:

Starting next week things start going BACK on the car for good. Right Cris?

Who better to get this car even more attention than SEMA's latest rock star goin Gonzo on it. :lol:

So true Skip, but this will not be a rock star build. Just some JCG Pro touches that exceed my capability/vision...:thumbsup:

I guess I shouldn't say old when it has 0 miles on it huh? Let me know what else you have. I will get a thread posted once football season is over with and make some progress on the car.

That's right Aarik, brand new. I'll send you a PM. Look forward to your build thread buddy....:lateral:

[The WidowMaker]

you all keep filling up gonzos shop with your stuff and im never going to be able to get my car painted:mad:. maybe with la nina he can just put yours outside for a while. :yes:

looks good though and i cant wait to see it done. and i need to go back through and find your motor specs so i can stop stressing over my build.

[Cris@JCG]

Ron- Throw away your project plan.. I work better without one.. Look what happen with Blu Balz! :D


Tim- I will boot Ron out when you decide for the car to come over to paint!


you all keep filling up gonzos shop with your stuff and im never going to be able to get my car painted:mad:. maybe with la nina he can just put yours outside for a while. :yes:

looks good though and i cant wait to see it done. and i need to go back through and find your motor specs so i can stop stressing over my build.

[Ron in SoCal]

you all keep filling up gonzos shop with your stuff and im never going to be able to get my car painted:mad:. maybe with la nina he can just put yours outside for a while. :yes:

looks good though and i cant wait to see it done. and i need to go back through and find your motor specs so i can stop stressing over my build.

Hey Tim...I was gonna say no La nina, but Cris might have other plans! :unibrow: I liked your idea for #2 over on 'tech. Send me a PM and I'll give you some of the motor specs.

Ron- Throw away your project plan.. I work better without one.. Look what happen with Blu Balz! :D

Tim- I will boot Ron out when you decide for the car to come over to paint!

I'm feelin' the love Cris. Keep it up and I'll start hanging out at your shop everyday...:D

[Gandalf]

Seems like I have two of many things. You know what's like, right Gregg?

Oh brother Ron - you have NO idea lol. No clue how I ended up with THREE of some things ha! Keep an eye on the LG & PT For Sale sections. Even going to let someone else finish the convertible :eek:

Gregg

[chr2002ca]

Ron, your build is coming along beautifully. I'm very excited for you and the progress you're making. Love the color choice. A lot of best-of-breed parts going into it along with great design and craftsmanship. Can't wait to see you driving and thrashing on it soon. I hope also to catch up with you soon at an upcoming SoCal event. :thumbsup: :cheers:

[Ricochet]

Outstanding build!! Everything about it. Much like yourself I'm looking forward to see this finished. You are in good hands with Cris!!

[Cris@JCG]

I don't know Brent! We keep taking it apart.. :lol:

Got the engine mounts & transmission support modified today.. Build headers on Monday... We got all the underside plumbing done this week..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1765.jpg

Outstanding build!! Everything about it. Much like yourself I'm looking forward to see this finished. You are in good hands with Cris!!

[Ron in SoCal]

Ron, your build is coming along beautifully. I'm very excited for you and the progress you're making. Love the color choice. A lot of best-of-breed parts going into it along with great design and craftsmanship. Can't wait to see you driving and thrashing on it soon. I hope also to catch up with you soon at an upcoming SoCal event. :thumbsup: :cheers:

Hey Chris! Thx for the props Bro. I'll be down at Del Mar on Friday. See you there? :thumbsup:

Outstanding build!! Everything about it. Much like yourself I'm looking forward to see this finished. You are in good hands with Cris!!

Thx Brent. Professor Cris is on it...:yes:

I don't know Brent! We keep taking it apart.. :lol:

Got the engine mounts & transmission support modified today.. Build headers on Monday... We got all the underside plumbing done this week..


Progress...is sometimes hard to watch! :faint: :D

Thx for all the hard work and brainpower Cris :cheers:

[Ricochet]

I don't know Brent! We keep taking it apart.. :lol:

Got the engine mounts & transmission support modified today.. Build headers on Monday... We got all the underside plumbing done this week..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1765.jpg

Uh Cris....Your suppose to bolt it together...not unbolt it! :D Looks like the tranny tunnel is cut out of it now...What are you doing??

[Track Junky]

It's about time we got an update!! J/k, lookin' good guy's :thumbsup:

[OVRKILL]

Gotta love negative progress to get a little positive :lol: ....

[Cris@JCG]

Brent- Their were a few things that Ron & I wanted to improve before final set-up.. We are changing the sub-frame bushings to get the car lower about 1/2.. Wanted to run the tranny angle @ 2.5 degrees.. easier to do with sub out.. Had a small issue with motor mounts.. Wanted to mock up headers.. All these things justified me pulling the sub out.. Plus we work alot faster.. Tranny tunnel is being modified for new angle on tranny..


Uh Cris....Your suppose to bolt it together...not unbolt it! :D Looks like the tranny tunnel is cut out of it now...What are you doing??

[chr2002ca]

Hey Chris! Thx for the props Bro. I'll be down at Del Mar on Friday. See you there? :thumbsup:
:cheers:

Awesome. Glad to hear you'll be there on Friday. I'll be there also and look forward to catchin' up with you.

[cencalc6]

Ron,What LS motor are you running?

[Ron in SoCal]

It's about time we got an update!! J/k, lookin' good guy's :thumbsup:

Gotta love negative progress to get a little positive :lol: ....

I was telling someone yesterday - it seems like we were farther ahead last week :D

Awesome. Glad to hear you'll be there on Friday. I'll be there also and look forward to catchin' up with you.

See you there Chris!

Ron,What LS motor are you running?

It's one of those new-fangeld LS7 contraptions...:captain:

[cencalc6]

It's one of those new-fangeld LS7 contraptions...:captain:

lol! :thumbsup:

[Gandalf]

Progress...is sometimes hard to watch! :faint: :D

Ain't that right there the truth! Been there - done that. Keep your eye on the prize Ron - it's all good. I'm just glad someone else decided to do it ass-backwards. I mean re-engineering the car before paint - where's the challenge in that?! At least Chris was able to lend you some PJ's for your car - I'm looking for the touch-up paint and I've never seen second gear yet lol!

Happy Turkey Day and see you Friday at Del Mar bud!

Gregg

[Ron in SoCal]

I'm just glad someone else decided to do it ass-backwards. I mean re-engineering the car before paint - where's the challenge in that?!

Happy Turkey Day and see you Friday at Del Mar bud!

Gregg

Happy Thanksgiving G! Thank you for blazing the trail for 'Team Backwards'....:lol: Seriously, I appreciate all the phone time, measurements, time savers and everything else you do! See you tomorrow...:thumbsup:

[syborg tt]

looking for an update from Doc Gonzo

[Cris@JCG]

Marty- We tore it apart & sold it for parts! Got a LS7 for sale!:unibrow:

We got the motor set up on the sub-frame with transmission & fabricated with tack welding the modified transmission tunnel.. The headers & pedal assembly are next.. Going with Wilwood pedals & shorty M/C..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1813.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1815.jpg

looking for an update from Doc Gonzo

[syborg tt]

That's awesome !!!

[Moabdude]

Hello Ron, it was nice meeting you at Chris his shop.
Your car is awesome!!

Bram

[Cris@JCG]

Got the Wilwood M/C with pedals done today.. Still got a little fine tuning to do but were close to finishing it out.. Need to modify the M/C to use Bajo fittings..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1829.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

Hello Ron, it was nice meeting you at Chris his shop.
Your car is awesome!!

Bram

Hey Bram! So good to meet you and glad you made it by the shop. I hope you made it home ok....:) My car's a heep compared to some of the stuff going on there...:thumbsup:

Got the Wilwood M/C with pedals done today.. Still got a little fine tuning to do but were close to finishing it out.. Need to modify the M/C to use Bajo fittings..



Looks good Cris! :thumbsup: Thx for posting, can't wait to see it in person!

[Vegas69]

Man Ron, you took her to a new level dropping it of to Gonzo.:thumbsup: Financially and ultimately. :unibrow:

[Ron in SoCal]

Man Ron, you took her to a new level dropping it of to Gonzo.:thumbsup: Financially and ultimately. :unibrow:

You are so right Toddski. It's a sickness I tellya...:cool: Gotta stop sooner or later (sooner), but I'm shooting for good pedal control.

[Vegas69]

Brakes is something I'm still working on after all this time and my biggest weakness. Let me know how it works out.

[Ron in SoCal]

Will do Bro. Prob gonna look to you to help me sort it out...:cheers:

[Matt@BOS]

Ron, what sizes did you spec for the master cylinders? I've got 7/8" front and rear; pedal travel is negligible. You sorta just stomp on it to stop. It is great for speed stop style runs and big tracks, because you can't just lock up the brakes accidentally. However, next time I want to see what a 3/4" front 7/8" rear feels like.

Matt

[Ron in SoCal]

Ron, what sizes did you spec for the master cylinders? I've got 7/8" front and rear; pedal travel is negligible. You sorta just stomp on it to stop. It is great for speed stop style runs and big tracks, because you can't just lock up the brakes accidentally. However, next time I want to see what a 3/4" front 7/8" rear feels like.

Matt

Same as you Matt, 7/8" fr and rr. I followed Cris' reccomendation on this - and I'm pretty sure this is the correct starting point - but this triple stuff is new to me...

[Matt@BOS]

Same as you Matt, 7/8" fr and rr. I followed Cris' reccomendation on this - and I'm pretty sure this is the correct starting point - but this triple stuff is new to me...

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think you should drive my car. :lol: Come to cars and coffee tomorrow morning. I'm serious.

Dual 7/8" master cylinders feel completely different than a tandem bore 7/8" master cylinder. It makes the latter setup feel like spongy power brakes. The Pozzis thought my brakes just flat out didn't work when they drove my car at Del Mar. Fran at RCR specs out 3/4" fr and 7/8" rr for his GT40s. Campell Auto Restoration prefers the same for most of their builds, which is what Kevin spent a while chatting with me about at last years Grand National Roadster Show.

If you think about it, the 3/4" will have a longer stroke with less resistance, whereas the 7/8" will will be firmer and move the same amount of fluid with less stroke. On these setups you'll be able to use the balance bar to adjust bias. I'm guessing you'll want to roll the bar fairly heavily towards the front... Damn this is to hard for me to explain right now. I need to just show you some time lol.

Matt

[Ron in SoCal]

Matt you're probably right...but I have a few thoughts on this. First is master bore size is one of those dial in things. If the first one doesn't give me the pedal feel I'll up or downsize. Secondly, master sizing is a function of fluid requirements for pistion bore size (sq area). On the Baer's a 15/16 or 1" is reccomended. C6Z's reqiuire 7/8" according to Tobin; I'm not sure what the prefect size is for your Wilwoods. Smaller bore moves more fluid and has more pedal travel in theory. Either way, balance bar goes way up front as you said.

So the goal is not to have a spongy pedal. I'm also going to call Baer on Monday and seek Rick's input.

I'd love to hear other's thoughts on this as well :lateral:

[214Chevy]

Geesh Ron, I'm glad I got a street car only so I don't have to figure out all that crap out. You racer/track guys are on another level. :faint:

[Jr]

[QUOTE=Gonzo;382696]Marty- We tore it apart & sold it for parts! Got a LS7 for sale!:unibrow:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1813.jpg




Do you have any pictures that show the distance between the side of the ls head and the frame rail? I'm curious about the how little room there is for exhaust clearance.

[GregWeld]

Geesh Ron, I'm glad I got street car only so I don't have to figure out all that crap out. You racer/track guys are on another level. :faint:

He's really just making it more complicated than it really truly is...

Bigger bore - less pressure - more pedal and more effort is required for the same stopping power...

Smaller bore - more pressure per effort - more pedal modulation.

More SMALL pistons in these "multi piston brakes" do not always equal more MC because - like motors - 5 liters is still 5 liters - 12 cylinders or 6...

Pedal RATIO is important - for brake pedal TRAVEL -- and the multiplier of effort. 7:1 ratio will travel MORE and produce more pressure per effort than will a 6:1 pedal.

It ain't rocket science. The other #2 thing people forget about or make poor choices about is what pad they choose --- because a super hard race/autocross pad will feel crappy on the street regardless of all of the above. :willy: :D

[GregWeld]

Same as you Matt, 7/8" fr and rr. I followed Cris' reccomendation on this - and I'm pretty sure this is the correct starting point - but this triple stuff is new to me...

You'd better hope that one of the masters hanging there is for your CLUTCH numb nuts.....:rofl:

[syborg tt]

Just ask Kenny. He has trying to make the better softer in the 57 for about 8 weeks. He gone up, down andeven changed the pedal ratio in both directions. He thinks he finally has it figured out. So no clue how it ended up but we think it done.

[Cris@JCG]

Thank you Greg! you are good for something on this forum :lol:

Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration is mounting of pedals & calipers.. The stronger the mount.. The less defelection you will get & the firmer your pedal will feel..

Ron will get me the bore diameter on the calipers & we will do a calculation of what will get us in the ball park.. It is always different from our calculation due to how you want pedal feel..



He's really just making it more complicated than it really truly is...

Bigger bore - less pressure - more pedal and more effort is required for the same stopping power...

Smaller bore - more pressure per effort - more pedal modulation.

More SMALL pistons in these "multi piston brakes" do not always equal more MC because - like motors - 5 liters is still 5 liters - 12 cylinders or 6...

Pedal RATIO is important - for brake pedal TRAVEL -- and the multiplier of effort. 7:1 ratio will travel MORE and produce more pressure per effort than will a 6:1 pedal.

It ain't rocket science. The other #2 thing people forget about or make poor choices about is what pad they choose --- because a super hard race/autocross pad will feel crappy on the street regardless of all of the above. :willy: :D

[Cris@JCG]

We will have that when we tack the headers up...

[QUOTE=Gonzo;382696]Marty- We tore it apart & sold it for parts! Got a LS7 for sale!:unibrow:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1813.jpg




Do you have any pictures that show the distance between the side of the ls head and the frame rail? I'm curious about the how little room there is for exhaust clearance.

[Cris@JCG]

Lately we have been having a few LS7 with the dry sump systems on them.. One thing that was a pain on the oil pan plumbing was fittings that were big & the angles were taking it into the header.. I think this will help out with that.. Made our own oil pan block that sits it on top with a 30 degree angle.. Ordering fittings on Monday so the we can make a -12 fitting extender to take the hoses on a 90 degree..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1832.jpg


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1833.jpg

[Bryan O]

Very cool updates Ron.

Man! Cris sure does fab some cool stuff.

Nice valve covers. I just bought a set on eBay right before checking out your thread. All great minds think alike. :thumbsup:

However, what's all that triple stuff about? :lol:

[waynieZ]

Looking good Ron!

[Track Junky]

WTF!! You guys aren't done yet!! What year is this!!

Just kiddin guys :rofl:

Ron you know I love this build and Chris is ths man!! Friggin guy is genius.

My favorite part of this car is seeing the R888's in the back ground. You know when a guy is building a car and chooses R888's that he intends to play hard :unibrow:

Hope you guys make it to Buttonwillow in September. That would be the BOMB :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Hope you guys make it to Buttonwillow in September. That would be the BOMB :thumbsup:

Heck, he'll def make BW in Sept...

Now RTTC in March... he better be ready for that. :cool:

[Payton King]

Nice progress.

Here is what I have come up with messing with my twin master set up for years. I am at .70 for the front and 3/4 for the rear. Running the Wilwood stuff (6 piston front 4 piston rear)and the sizing for my caliper piston area is about the same as a C5/C6 vette. My pedal ratio is 6:1. Caliper pressure gauges show 1200 psi front and 900 psi rear with about 100 lbs of leg pressure. I started at 7/8 in the front and 1 inch in the rear and could barely get my car to stop.

As Greg stated, the larger the bore the more fluid volume. I would have a higher pedal ratio (7:1) if I could have made it fit and run a slightlly larger bore size.The problem that I have run into is the masters are so small to help the pedal effort and to be able to lock the wheels, I do not have much fluid volume and you can really tell the pad knock back. If I were running power brakes with a large volume master (1 3/16), it would hide the knockback that I am getting now.

The balance bar is for fine tuning and you will need to try and size the masters as to run the balance bar as close to the center as possible. Then use the adjustment to fine tune or change for conditions. IE autocross, more rear brake, speed stop less. Reason for the larger master in the rear is for fluid volume and for the same given pedal effort there will be less force applied to the rear. Also, the rear caliper piston area is normally smaller than the front and will require less pressure.

Getting the corrrect pads will make the most difference in your stopping power. I was running Wilwood BP 10's and could not lock them up when cold. Swithed to a high bite autocross pad and it was like night and day. While trying to find the right brake compound I tried a full race pad, way too much for a street tire. I went to bed them in on the interstate, running 85 mph I hammered the brakes to start the heat cycle...front tires locked up. I was suprised to say the least.

That is a pretty racing looking set-up you have going there. Good luck with getting it dialed in. I would not run the same size master front and rear.

[Ron in SoCal]

Sorry guys, it was a very busy weekend and I coouldn't get back to this!

Greg/Marty thx for the input!

Bry - the trips are for a better control/finer adjustment and as Payton said, you can really get to it quick depending on use.

Cris - great work as usual. That oil pan fitting is a thing of beauty! Time to update the JCG Products thread?

Gae/Dave- Gunnin for Sept. RTTC is gonna be tough...:willy:

Payton/Matt - thx for your guidance. I think everyone gets a little smarter when guys who've done it jump in. I did speak to Baer and got some data over to Cris this AM. We'll do the calcs and try to get as close to a good starting point as we can. It looks like smaller/bigger (fr/rr) is the way to go. As far as pads go, all I have at the moment is stock from Baer. I have some ideas on that but need to get farther down the road to dig into it.

:cheers:

[OVRKILL]

Keeps gettin cooler and cooler Ron!!

Good luck with your September date. Lol....I used to set completion dates :lol:

[KPC67]

Cris - great work as usual. That oil pan fitting is a thing of beauty! Time to update the JCG Products thread?

Time to update it indeed Chris, I will take one if you are making them.
Great car Ron!

[Gandalf]

Lately we have been having a few LS7 with the dry sump systems on them.. One thing that was a pain on the oil pan plumbing was fittings that were big & the angles were taking it into the header.. I think this will help out with that.. Made our own oil pan block that sits it on top with a 30 degree angle.. Ordering fittings on Monday so the we can make a -12 fitting extender to take the hoses on a 90 degree..


Very nice as per usual Chris. I'd be in for one but I need to check and see if it will clear my (low mount) a/c compressor first.

G.

[Cris@JCG]

Machine shop made 6 of these prototype oil pan blocks.. Currently getting modified for clearance on the oil pan.. I still need one more custom fitting to proof fitment..
I will keep you guys posted on the these parts as I go..


Cris - great work as usual. That oil pan fitting is a thing of beauty! Time to update the JCG Products thread?

Time to update it indeed Chris, I will take one if you are making them.
Great car Ron!

Very nice as per usual Chris. I'd be in for one but I need to check and see if it will clear my (low mount) a/c compressor first.

G.

[Ron in SoCal]

Keeps gettin cooler and cooler Ron!!

Good luck with your September date. Lol....I used to set completion dates :lol:

Haha Brent. I wouldn't be putting completion dates out there either if I was on my THIRD cam...:lol:

[OVRKILL]

Haha Brent. I wouldn't be putting completion dates out there either if I was on my THIRD cam...:lol:

Oooh saw that did ya? I promise this is the LAST one. :thumbsup: Might swing down there next week to take a first hand peak. :unibrow:

Anything new on the coil braket situation? Let me know if I can assist....

[Cris@JCG]

Got a little bit of progress this week! One header.. :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1856.jpg

Both headers are done & on the car for Ron to come check out.. The Kooks headers were a pretty good product to work with..

[Richio1]

Nice!

[Ron in SoCal]

Oooh saw that did ya? I promise this is the LAST one. :thumbsup: Might swing down there next week to take a first hand peak. :unibrow:

Anything new on the coil braket situation? Let me know if I can assist....

Yeah, I guess I'd have a motor program too if I had unusally large cubes, C5R heads and multiple cam sponsors! :thumbsup:

The brackets should be in early next year. Maybe we'll call your friend together and see what he can do!

Nice!

Thx Jeffio! I'm digging your sheet (metal) also....:thumbsup:

[70rs]

Them there be some nice headers buddy!

[Ron in SoCal]

Meanwhile, back in Oxnard, CA…Cris is pounding away at the punchlist, and as he posted yesterday the headers are welded up. There’s still a little to finish, but I’m pretty happy with the way they came out. The issue has always been that besides AME there’s not much out there for a good fit for their sub and motor mount system. Sure, they make a nice piece but it only comes in 1 ¾” and I wanted 1 7/8” loooong tubes. Frank has been working on a Stainless works 2” set up, and that’d be great if I was building a drag car/motor. So months back I got a set of Kooks unwelded. The plan was always to chop and reweld to fit and that’s what Cris did.

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/IMG_2471.jpg

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As you can see, they protrude a little ( ~ ½”) beyond the side and bottom framerail, but I’m cool with that.

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Also, Cris’ oil pan fitting was a hit and there’s plenty of clearance there too –

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/IMG_2463.jpg

Cris is moving onto finishing the firewall fab and bodywork it so we can (hopefully) start reassembly! I’ll also run by the motor shop next week and post some specs/pics.

[Ron in SoCal]

Them there be some nice headers buddy!

Haha E, you beat me to the post by a couple of minutes! :yes:

[cencalc6]

Chris Did a fabulous job on those headers....Looking very Good Ron! :cheers:

[Bryan O]

Very nice. :thumbsup: I wish I could take pics like yous guys do.

I'll try and get a fix on the height of the sway bar for ya.

[56pickup]

Headers look great Ron! So does the oil pan!:thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

X2 they look great.

[Cris@JCG]

Ron- Good to see that you liked the outcome of the headers & the oil pan dry sump block.. We will keep moving forward..

I made 6 dry sump oil pan blocks.. Two are spoken for.. one for Ron's car & just got off the phone with Jason/WAR.. he wants another one.. The -12 extenders are great pcs. for us to have around.. They help with situations like the ones required for the dry sump oil pan block..

We also just ran our new re-designed firewall plate... Like this one better because we can mount our fuel distribution block..


http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1857.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

Very nice. :thumbsup: I wish I could take pics like yous guys do.

I'll try and get a fix on the height of the sway bar for ya.

All it takes is a camera Bry. Sholdn't be a problem for a baller like you...:D

Chris Did a fabulous job on those headers....Looking very Good Ron! :cheers:

Headers look great Ron! So does the oil pan!:thumbsup:

X2 they look great.

Thx Guys...:cheers: Cris and company get all the credit. Oh and Motown...it's time for an update! :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

Those parts look great I especially like the block off plate with the distribution block.
Ron I'll get on that right now.

[tones2SS]

Good stuff Cris. Love those headers.
Ron, you're in good hands. Should be a killer car.

[69x22]

The headers came out nice...

[Bryan O]

Thanks Ron!

[Ron in SoCal]

Welcome Bro...:cheers:

[70rs]

Nice new jewelry for the engine bay! :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

Chris is a friggin' genious. :yes: Love the fuel distribution set up!! :thumbsup:

[Bucketlist2012]

As you said in the beginning....The goal is to beat the crap out of it....

I agree, and plan to also....

[Cris@JCG]

Gaetano- I don't know about genious.. :D Let's just say that each time we design & machine we try to improve it .. Each build teaches me something new.. I just luv what we can do in the shop.. My crew is what makes my vision a reality!

Chris is a friggin' genious. :yes: Love the fuel distribution set up!! :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

Nah.......your a friggin' geniuous :yes: . You see an issue, design and create a part and create a better solution. Maybe innovater is a better word,or maybe a pioneer that revelutionizes and creates the parts to make install easier and make more sense.

Either way, I'm sticking with geniuous. :yes:

[Cris@JCG]

Thank you for the props Gaetano! But sometimes I do get into trouble..

So, the brakes on the blue 68 are not working the way they should.. Booster is bad.. pedal ratio is off.. the M/C bore size is needs to be smaller.. when we re-worked the firewall.. the booster was a direct bolt on to the firewall & we could not mount the M/C back on the firewall..

Solution: Machine a adapter plate to union both parts! I had to give up the nice pcs we did for the M/C with our reservoirs.. learned alot from this problem..

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/IMG_1888.jpg

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Ron is gonna be bugging me to use this new plate we just designed for the Wilwood tripple M/C with pedal assembly.. :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/WindowM-CFirewallPlate2.jpg

Nah.......your a friggin' geniuous :yes: . You see an issue, design and create a part and create a better solution. Maybe innovater is a better word,or maybe a pioneer that revelutionizes and creates the parts to make install easier and make more sense.

Either way, I'm sticking with geniuous. :yes:

[GregWeld]

Cris -- Can I tell ya sumthin??






SWEET....

[Ron in SoCal]

Thank you for the props Gaetano! But sometimes I do get into trouble..

Ron is gonna be bugging me to use this new plate we just designed for the Wilwood tripple M/C with pedal assembly.. :D

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/jcgrestoration/WindowM-CFirewallPlate2.jpg

Dude knows how to push my buttons...:cool:

[GregWeld]

Dude knows how to push my buttons...:cool:



Oh don't worry - you can have the first one made.... for the prototyping costs. :D

[Ron in SoCal]

Oh don't worry - you can have the first one made.... for the prototyping costs. :D

Sounds like my portfolio...:lol:

[Vegas69]

Them brakes sucked, that's for sure.:D

[frankv11]

ron your car is going to be one bad mofo, cant wait to see that thing.
congrats

[Cris@JCG]

Thank you Sir!

Cris -- Can I tell ya sumthin??


SWEET....

These plates were designed for 3 custom firewalls being built from scratch in the next few weeks .. Yours was kept in budget & what the car allowed us to do within the stock firewall..

Sounds like my portfolio...:lol:

I got to be careful on how much I pick on you.. I don't want any videos like the one you did for Greg & Rodger..

Are you sure it should be "Payback" ? "Knockback" sounds better for you! :D

Them brakes sucked, that's for sure.:D

[Ron in SoCal]

As you said in the beginning....The goal is to beat the crap out of it....

I agree, and plan to also....

Solar, I've well read your exploits on the other site. Congrats on your journey and the bucket list. We'll meet up at an event one day soon...:hail:

P.S. Put your name in your sig?

ron your car is going to be one bad mofo, cant wait to see that thing.
congrats

Thx Frankie. We gotta get together soon!


These plates were designed for 3 custom firewalls being built from scratch in the next few weeks .. Yours was kept in budget & what the car allowed us to do within the stock firewall..


:thumbsup: Cris

[Vegas69]

Thank you Sir!



These plates were designed for 3 custom firewalls being built from scratch in the next few weeks .. Yours was kept in budget & what the car allowed us to do within the stock firewall..



I got to be careful on how much I pick on you.. I don't want any videos like the one you did for Greg & Rodger..

Are you sure it should be "Payback" ? "Knockback" sounds better for you! :D

It's tough when you get to the curve first.:unibrow: Wilwood has a redesigned retainer and now a floating caliper kit for the masses. I may have a little to do with that evolution along with the amount of new projects with floating axles.

[MaxHarvard]

Man, this thread delivers!! :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Good stuff. Keep up the great work Cris. Ron is one lucky dude!

[Gandalf]

Thirsty for updates on this build...... Can't wait to see it!

G.

[Cris@JCG]

Thanks Gandalf for reminding me about your visit.. I will have to fish the car out of the corner in the shop & take out all the storage boxes out of it.. :lol:

Ron has been patient on us working on his car.. We got it on the schedule for later this week..


Thirsty for updates on this build...... Can't wait to see it!

G.

[John510]

Awesome!! Coming along nicely

[OVRKILL]

This thing isnt done yet? :lol:

Still lovin the details Ron....crazy.

[Ron in SoCal]

Awesome!! Coming along nicely

Thx John...time for updates soon!

This thing isnt done yet? :lol:

Still lovin the details Ron....crazy.

Ha Brent, I was just reading some stuff on 'tech about a crazy 4th Gen going on the Power tour? :cool: :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

Hi Ron,

Lurker update....still am.

That is all.

[Ron in SoCal]

Hi Ron,

Lurker update....still am.

That is all.

Hey Lurker. I got all excited when I thought the GNRS pics were yours. If you ever get out here, let me know! Anyway, Cris is finishing up the firewall and we should have some pics any day now.

Paging Dr Gonzo...:D

[Bryan O]

...we should have some pics any day now.

Paging Dr Gonzo...:D

:thumbsup: :cheers:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Hey Lurker. I got all excited when I thought the GNRS pics were yours. If you ever get out here, let me know!

Will do Ron. I drew the line at Arizona, but one of my son's an engineer for Toyota out there now, so I'm running out of excuses. :lol:

[Flash68]

Will do Ron. I drew the line at Arizona, but one of my son's an engineer for Toyota out there now, so I'm running out of excuses. :lol:

Yeah Skip, you know you want to come out to the Best Coast and see where the real Camaros live. You know, the ones that drive more than 6 months a year. :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

Yeah Skip, you know you want to come out to the Best Coast and see where the real Camaros live. You know, the ones that drive more than 6 months a year. :D

Double ouch!

Back to lurking...

:lol:

[OVRKILL]

Ha Brent, I was just reading some stuff on 'tech about a crazy 4th Gen going on the Power tour? :cool: :D

Dont believe everything you read Ron....I'm still calling it naive optimism at this point :lol: . Would be nice to pull this into the GM proving grounds on the first day, but its gonna be a lot of knuckle busting nights, a few extra bodies with capable hands and probably an adult beverage or 30 to do it :cheers:

[Cris@JCG]

Ron- Finished the firewall, trans tunnel, & underdash fabrication yesterday.. We are now in the body shop.. Get some pics posted later this week..


Hey Lurker. I got all excited when I thought the GNRS pics were yours. If you ever get out here, let me know! Anyway, Cris is finishing up the firewall and we should have some pics any day now.

Paging Dr Gonzo...:D

[Ron in SoCal]

Ron- Finished the firewall, trans tunnel, & underdash fabrication yesterday.. We are now in the body shop.. Get some pics posted later this week..

I know it'll be worth the wait...:drool: :D

[Ron in SoCal]

A little Superbowl Sunday update - I finally picked up some pics from the motor shop and thought I'd throw up some details of my build...

For the most part this motor is not built 7800 rpm top end, but more for fast revving in-n-out of corners torque. My goal was to build a bullet proof (no such thing!) LS7, or at least take out some of the known weaknesses. I started w a flea-bay motor some knucklehead built wrong. I bought it knowing I would tear it down and rebuild it as strong as possible for the planned abuse. Last thing I wanted was a rod grenading the side of the block or needle bearings falling through the rotating assy under power. I wanted it to breathe good, accelerate quick and rev to 7k on the straights. I didn’t sleeve it, although I did speak to RED Steve and one day I’ll beef up the block a little (meaning the motor will be torn down at some point, planned or not).

According to Ovrkill, here’s my ‘puny’ motor (haha, Brent!). All the work was done at QMP Racing in Chatsworth, CA. I’ve known Brad and Mikey for a loooong time and consider them friends. These guys really know their stuff and everything is done in house. On any given week you’ll see small blocks, big blocks, turbo/blower builds, a Lambo rebuild or one of those Sonny-whats-his-names 800 cu alum motors! That thing is huge BTW…

I started w a stock GM LS7 crate motor. Block was CNC blueprinted, diamond honed, decked, align honed, Cam tunnel bored. We balanced the factory forged crank and added Crower billet steel connecting rods, ROSS custom pistons and pins, and a set of Total Seal custom rings. ARP main bearing studs hold it all together. I’ve got a 13 lb Fidanza alum flywheel and a McLeod RST clamp I’ll throw on when the time comes.

Heads were fully prepped w CNC port to breathe 390 cfm @ .0600. Milled and given QMP's competition valve job. We kept the Titanium valves and added Manley Titanium spring cups , retainers, pushrods and polished valve springs. CHE bushed rockers help delete those pesky needle bearings. We also used some of those new Comp short throw lifters (tray type) to see if they truly help the motor build revs faster and control any valve float.

Tieing the two together is a Comp bump stick. 235/244, 630 lift w a 113+2 LSA. Brad cam doctored it as he always does and this is the formula for my intended use.

For oiling I’m using an LS9 pump, Avaid pan baffle, Peterson baffled tank and breather. These cars don’t quite pull Gs like race prepped Vetts so I think I should be good.

Up top I’ve got a Mamo ported factory intake, Fast rails and a BER ported TB. We threw a set of Fast flow matched injectors pumping 65 psi just in case I decide to add some cubes or something later on down the road.

Here's some some pics...

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[Ron in SoCal]

More...


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[70rs]

Oh man, total boat anchor. I think you should send that one to me and start over and build a real motor. ........:D



Badass Ron! Awesome build on that. Can't wait to see dyno numbers. I bet that torque curve is impressive!

[cencalc6]

What TB are you going with? Looking Good Ron! :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Oh man, total boat anchor. I think you should send that one to me and start over and build a real motor. ........:D



Badass Ron! Awesome build on that. Can't wait to see dyno numbers. I bet that torque curve is impressive!

Thx E! I'm told these motors don't need big cams. We'll see. I'll chassis dyno it once the money pit hits the road...:yes:

What TB are you going with? Looking Good Ron! :thumbsup:

Hey Bro - I used a factory TB, ported by a guy on Corvette forums. He does a lot of these and it looks real good. After I sent it out I saw a company that does a CNC spiral port. I'd be interested to see if that is a better approach?

[tubbed69]

I will take that motor if you really dont want it,just kidding sounds like a killer to me.

[intocarss]

. I’ve known Brad and Mikey for a loooong time. I'm sorry :rofl:















QMP= :woot:

[fleetus macmullitz]

That's like the Super Bowl of motors! :unibrow:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/SN10LSruss3-1.jpg

I like QMP's success on a wide variety of motors. :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

Sick buddy

[waynieZ]

Ron thats a sweet motor loaded with quality parts. You must be nipping at the bit to hear that baby run...

[Ron in SoCal]

I will take that motor if you really dont want it,just kidding sounds like a killer to me.

Thx man!

I'm sorry :rofl:

QMP= :woot:

All the time I spend there, I'm surprised we haven't run into each other. Did you ever tell Bob-O I said hi? :thumbsup:

I like QMP's success on a wide variety of motors. :thumbsup:

Nice pic Skip! Yeah these guys have been doing World's fastest street cars, Hemis, boat motors, race car fab, you name it. I was surprised to see Euro Exoctic in there, but they do that too!

[Ron in SoCal]

Sick buddy

Thx buddy. I won''t forget seeing - who was it Mike Norris - @ RTTC1 timing your car on the AutoX saying, 'man that car's fast.' There's a lot of good power out there, but seeing you run showed me what it really takes...:thumbsup:

Ron thats a sweet motor loaded with quality parts. You must be nipping at the bit to hear that baby run...

Yeah, can't wait Wayne! Thinking Borlas will be too quiet for this one...:D

[intocarss]

qZS85T1YJ_Y

[QUOTE=Ron in SoCal;393786]


All the time I spend there, I'm surprised we haven't run into each other. Did you ever tell Bob-O I said hi? :thumbsup:




I sure did and he said HEY back!!

[Ron in SoCal]

^ Thx Bro! Great vid...:yes:

[Vegas69]

I think he said "borderline scary". Haha Power certainly doesn't hurt your chances. Road racing is where it really makes a difference. We've seen low powered cars be very successful in autocross and the speed stop.

When do you plan to dyno and what numbers do you expect?

[cencalc6]

Thx E! I'm told these motors don't need big cams. We'll see. I'll chassis dyno it once the money pit hits the road...:yes:



Hey Bro - I used a factory TB, ported by a guy on Corvette forums. He does a lot of these and it looks real good. After I sent it out I saw a company that does a CNC spiral port. I'd be interested to see if that is a better approach?

I went thru many TB's on my previous LS Engines from aftermarket 90mm to 102mm and the best TB that gave me zero problems was the Stock Ported TB's, plus I never noticed any gains with the Larger TB's.....I Have the spiral ported by V-Max will see how that performs.....I was told it should help tuners dial in surging/bucking with large cam setups :lol:

[Flash68]

I like that you didn't go with a big duration cam like many do. That should keep some awesome low and mid range in that beast. Should be a great all around motor. :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

I think he said "borderline scary". Haha Power certainly doesn't hurt your chances. Road racing is where it really makes a difference. We've seen low powered cars be very successful in autocross and the speed stop.

When do you plan to dyno and what numbers do you expect?

Yeah that was the quote. And watching your last left and down the straight proved it.

Dyno's somewhat unknown. Shooting for 550 rwhp and a tall/flat torque curve. Getting rid of the Ti rods added a little weight, but the whole assy is weight matched and Crower rods are are called Maxi Lights. I did keep the lightweight valvetrain, so if a I get a lttle less top end but gobs of upper torque I should be good. Let me know what you think?

I went thru many TB's on my previous LS Engines from aftermarket 90mm to 102mm and the best TB that gave me zero problems was the Stock Ported TB's, plus I never noticed any gains with the Larger TB's.....I Have the spiral ported by V-Max will see how that performs.....I was told it should help tuners dial in surging/bucking with large cam setups :lol:

So true. AFAIK, the intake has a bigger effect than the TB. A big TB on a stock intake is like putting a paper towel roll up to your nose.

Let me know on the spiral Phillip! :thumbsup:

[214Chevy]

I'm so jealous Ron. Those heads are beautiful. :wow: :wow:

[Gandalf]

Epic update Ron - that thing is going to be a little monster! Can't wait to hear it and to see what you think of the clutch/fw setup. How long before you think you get to run it?

Q: You mentioned FAST rails on the stock (ported) LS7 intake. I swear I've seen such a beast but when I called FAST last week they claimed there was no such part - only the ones for their LSX(R) intakes. FAST also makes them for Katech now but again, only for the LSX(R) intake. I'd love a set like that for the stock intake. Mast had their Black Label rails but stopped making them. Any hint on the part#? Otherwise might have to stick with my Aeromotive rails.

G.

[OVRKILL]

According to Ovrkill, here’s my ‘puny’ motor (haha, Brent!).

:lol: Aaawwww....look at the cute little thing. FYI...if you're gonna have Tony clean up your FAST, might as well have him tweak a 102tb too ;) . Those baby cubes will need all they help they can get.

Looks great Ron, she's coming together nicely. :cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

I'm so jealous Ron. Those heads are beautiful. :wow: :wow:

Thx Brother. One day we'll be at the same event...:thumbsup:

Epic update Ron - that thing is going to be a little monster! Can't wait to hear it and to see what you think of the clutch/fw setup. How long before you think you get to run it?

Q: You mentioned FAST rails on the stock (ported) LS7 intake. I swear I've seen such a beast but when I called FAST last week they claimed there was no such part - only the ones for their LSX(R) intakes. FAST also makes them for Katech now but again, only for the LSX(R) intake. I'd love a set like that for the stock intake. Mast had their Black Label rails but stopped making them. Any hint on the part#? Otherwise might have to stick with my Aeromotive rails.

G.

Great catch Gregg. I called COMP/FAST and think they steered me wrong. I was given a verbal that these would work: (jegs) 244-146027-KIT. When we went to install, first they needed injector extensions to sit a little taller (not a big deal), and then the brackets they included would not fit on the factory intake. We'll need to either fab a bracket to mount to the factory rails or go a different route. The rails mounted do not align perfectly and I'm not sure just bolting them down is gonna fix it. Calling COMP today so we'll see.

:lol: Aaawwww....look at the cute little thing. FYI...if you're gonna have Tony clean up your FAST, might as well have him tweak a 102tb too ;) . Those baby cubes will need all they help they can get.

Looks great Ron, she's coming together nicely. :cheers:

See above Brent. May have to move that up from phase 2...:_paranoid Thx for the compliment Sir! :cheers:

[Gandalf]

Great catch Gregg. I called COMP/FAST and think they steered me wrong. I was given a verbal that these would work: (jegs) 244-146027-KIT. When we went to install, first they needed injector extensions to sit a little taller (not a big deal), and then the brackets they included would not fit on the factory intake. We'll need to either fab a bracket to mount to the factory rails or go a different route. The rails mounted do not align perfectly and I'm not sure just bolting them down is gonna fix it. Calling COMP today so we'll see.

Yes - that's the only number I've managed to find and it's for their LSX/LSX-R intake(s). I'm not sure if you will get the injectors to seat. You might be able to machine some brackets to work. Aeromotive makes rails that will bolt-up for you - that's what I'm running now.

Keep us posted.
G.

[KPC67]

That is one sweeet engine Ron. :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

^ I found the email exchange from COMP/FAST confirming they would work, and sent them a note. I'll let you know how they respond!

That is one sweeet engine Ron. :thumbsup:

Thx very much Kevin! You're building a peach as well and I enjoy following all your updates. Keep 'em coming! :cheers:

[Rybar]

Engine update looks sweet Ron. :thumbsup:

[OVRKILL]

Great catch Gregg. I called COMP/FAST and think they steered me wrong. I was given a verbal that these would work: (jegs) 244-146027-KIT. When we went to install, first they needed injector extensions to sit a little taller (not a big deal), and then the brackets they included would not fit on the factory intake. We'll need to either fab a bracket to mount to the factory rails or go a different route. The rails mounted do not align perfectly and I'm not sure just bolting them down is gonna fix it. Calling COMP today so we'll see.



See above Brent. May have to move that up from phase 2...:_paranoid Thx for the compliment Sir! :cheers:

Give Nate at Nasty a call 847-458-4858. One stop fuel shop.

Why not go with a FAST intake? Leaving a few ponies on the table there mister :unibrow:

[Track Junky]

Awesome update Ron, keep on pluggin' buddy :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Very nice Ron. Can't go wrong with a built up LS7!:thumbsup:

[frankv11]

hey there ron, I see your moving along. very nice:thumbsup: that thing is going to be one of the best out there.
congrats

[Ron in SoCal]

Engine update looks sweet Ron. :thumbsup:

Awesome update Ron, keep on pluggin' buddy :thumbsup:

Very nice Ron. Can't go wrong with a built up LS7!:thumbsup:

hey there ron, I see your moving along. very nice:thumbsup: that thing is going to be one of the best out there.
congrats

Thx fellas! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

So today was a fun day. Me, Bryan, Trevor, Matt and Cris went down to Supercar Sunday. Decent turnout @ SCS and me and Matt recruited a second gen to RTTC. We'll see if he shows :lol: ...

After that we all drove down the road to JCG and hung out for a while. Props to Cris for hosting and lunch, and Matt and Trevor for making the drive down. Trev tell your Dad we're glad he drove you down...:D

Here's a couple pics. A little bit of fab left and the car is ready for reassembly:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2012-02-19_12-49-43_899.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2012-02-19_12-49-54_530.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2012-02-19_12-50-05_197.jpg

Pretty big milestone and I'm happy with the results...:cheers:

[John510]

Lookin good man!

[canrc]

Lookin good Ron!

[Gandalf]

Thx fellas! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

So today was a fun day. Me, Bryan, Trevor, Matt and Cris went down to Supercar Sunday. Decent turnout @ SCS and me and Matt recruited a second gen to RTTC. We'll see if he shows :lol: ...

After that we all drove down the road to JCG and hung out for a while. Props to Cris for hosting and lunch, and Matt and Trevor for making the drive down. Trev tell your Dad we're glad he drove you down...:D

Pretty big milestone and I'm happy with the results...:cheers:

Absolutely great milestone indeed Ron. Firewall looks all business :thumbsup: (not at all a "Dub showcar" :rofl: )

Bummed I couldn't make it this weekend - one 3.5hr trip through LA traffic up to Santa Clarita on Saturday was enough for one weekend!

Will have to come check the car out when you get her home again :cheers:
G.

G.

[Bryan O]

...and I'm happy with the results...:cheers:

Yes sir! :thumbsup:

Thanks for setting up the trip to JCG Ron.

[Bryan O]

...and I'm happy with the results...:cheers:

Yes sir! :thumbsup:

Thanks for setting up the trip to JCG Ron.

[Flash68]

Ron, that looks great man. Love the look. Not too much bling, but enough to be unique and get the key stuff in there. :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

Looking good Ron!! :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Lookin good man!

Lookin good Ron!

Thx John and Raj!

Absolutely great milestone indeed Ron. Firewall looks all business :thumbsup: (not at all a "Dub showcar" :rofl: )

Bummed I couldn't make it this weekend - one 3.5hr trip through LA traffic up to Santa Clarita on Saturday was enough for one weekend!

Will have to come check the car out when you get her home again :cheers:
G.

G.

Yeah we missed you out there Bro. How'd the Dyno time go? I get the joke btw...:lol:

Yes sir! :thumbsup:

Thanks for setting up the trip to JCG Ron.

You got it Bry. Always good to see you and Trev!

Ron, that looks great man. Love the look. Not too much bling, but enough to be unique and get the key stuff in there. :thumbsup:

Thx Dave. Cris and crew get all the credit. They also did something unique on the ECU mount. It's above the glove box area. I'll get a pic of that next week...:thumbsup:

Looking good Ron!! :thumbsup:

Thx Gae. Can't wait to start putting things back on again! :cheers:

[Cris@JCG]

Glad to see that you liked the results Ron!

[Ron in SoCal]

Glad to see that you liked the results Ron!

Yep! Great job Sir...:cheers:

[KPC67]

Great looking firewall Ron:thumbsup:

[cencalc6]

Firewall looks very Nice :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Great looking firewall Ron:thumbsup:

Firewall looks very Nice :thumbsup:

Thx guys! Just keeping up with the Kevin's and the Phillips over here...:lol:

[67zo6Camaro]

lateral-g

[Gandalf]

Yeah we missed you out there Bro. How'd the Dyno time go? I get the joke btw...:lol:

And you thought I missed that remark ;-)

I had made some modifications to the car after the dyno session the other week so Saturday was all about a follow-up roadtest and re-tune "on the street". We litterally drove, logged, pulled to the side, tuned, repeat. Just a lot of little tweaks here and there, mostly for the street, very little change to the WOT (which of coarse we would never do on the street :unibrow:) I learned a ton. The car just plain runs and drives better now, which got thee ultimate test on the way back home! It was also the ultimate test for the fuel issues now that we have the Vaporworx kit fitted and coated the stainless headers to bring the underhood temps down. ZERO issues. Now to swap out that clutch :faint:

G.

[Ron in SoCal]

Just went back and looked at the motor update post.... Wow! Everyone seems to be stepping it up in the motor department. And Man, that bums me out because now I feel like I need to get rid of my little lawn mower motor and upgrade....lol

And yes, that firewall is clean... Nice little touch around the mounting for the Wilwood stuff. All transition edges smoothed out. You sure this is still going to be a driver and not a show boat?

Lol loving it. Can't wait.

Thx Brett! Yes, 427 is the new 350 I think. Less than 1/2 of us can use it, including me...:D Talk soon Brett!

And you thought I missed that remark ;-)

I had made some modifications to the car after the dyno session the other week so Saturday was all about a follow-up roadtest and re-tune "on the street". We litterally drove, logged, pulled to the side, tuned, repeat. Just a lot of little tweaks here and there, mostly for the street, very little change to the WOT (which of coarse we would never do on the street :unibrow:) I learned a ton. The car just plain runs and drives better now, which got thee ultimate test on the way back home! It was also the ultimate test for the fuel issues now that we have the Vaporworx kit fitted and coated the stainless headers to bring the underhood temps down. ZERO issues. Now to swap out that clutch :faint:

G.

Great update Sir! Love that your getting it sorted out in no time. I think it's time to update your project thread...:yes:

This weekend I took a turn wide right behind Cris on his deserted street. Trying to get him in the corner, he stomped on Blue balls and I was toast. I'm sure your WOT is plenty fun...:unibrow:

[KPC67]

Thx guys! Just keeping up with the Kevin's and the Phillips over here...:lol:

I can't speak for Phillip, but you don't have to try very hard to keep up with me! :lol:

[Ron in SoCal]

I can't speak for Phillip, but you don't have to try very hard to keep up with me! :lol:

Haha, ok Mr. Darton Sleeves...:D

[KPC67]

Haha, ok Mr. Darton Sleeves...:D

Darton sleeves that are collecting dust in my basement.:P Might as well be a boat anchor!

[killer67]

I like what's going on there Ron!

[cencalc6]

Thx guys! Just keeping up with the Kevin's and the Phillips over here...:lol:

lol! It's the other way around Bro. :cheers:

[Lenie]

Ron, your a very sick man:D but your car is one cool ride!

[Ron in SoCal]

I like what's going on there Ron!

Thx Fernando....speaking of keeping up w the designers :yes:

Ron, your a very sick man:D but your car is one cool ride!

Yeah we both got it Lennie. Thx for the props, now get back in the garage! :cheers:

[Tom.A]

Ron, Any updates? This is going to be a nice one.

[Matt@BOS]

Ron, Any updates? This is going to be a nice one.

Yeah Ron, what are you up to?

Did you buy a stock pile of -AN fittings after selling the 911?

Matt

[Ron in SoCal]

Ron, Any updates? This is going to be a nice one.

Hey Tom...great meeting you at RTTC! Thx for the props. Next time let's hang out a little more. The shot of your car at Adams on the course was killer...:thumbsup:

Yeah Ron, what are you up to?

Did you buy a stock pile of -AN fittings after selling the 911?

Matt

Haha Matt. I think I'm almost up to 3k in fittings now!

Ok, so here's an update. It's starting to look like a car again. We let the car outside today to get a little fresh air:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2012-04-06_11-33-32_843.jpg

Cris is finished w the hardcore fab and the firewall came out great. We're within an inch or so of final ride height, but don't take that to the bank just yet. I've been stockpiiing parts for the home stretch. Latest reseacrh project is a redo of the dry sump system. Talking to Jason at Katech, ARE and Avaid and I just need to stop being a girl and make up my mind. :D

Next update will be a doosey...:cheers:

[intocarss]

Car looks good Ron. Are you dealing with Bill L over at Avaid?

[Vegas69]

I hope it's faster than the rest of the show pieces out of that place.:unibrow: :D :unibrow:

[Ron in SoCal]

Car looks good Ron. Are you dealing with Bill L over at Avaid?

Yep. Those guys were in dry sumps when SBCs were new! They led me down the first route, but I'm looking at more stuff Katech and ARE are doing these days. At least the vette guys are good for something (Todd :D )

I hope it's faster than the rest of the show pieces out of that place.:unibrow: :D :unibrow:

Me too Bro. Maybe i can get you to shake it out when its done? :lol:

[Vegas69]

I'm sure Chris can turn you onto a few better drivers than I. :lol:

[Tom.A]

Nice. Good meeting you also. Looks like it could be a few months and you will be rolling:thumbsup:

[Rick D]

Looking good Ron :thumbsup: But aren't you afraid you will scratch that pruuty paint when beating on it :lol: The thought you have put in to this car is just amazing, do you plan to go after the big boys on the track or just have fun? Oh and one picture :rolleyes: Com'on man:cheers:

[214Chevy]

C'mon Ron, give a little bit more than that! Hurry up with the next update. You got it looking good bro.:yes: :yes:

[GregWeld]

I'm sure Chris can turn you onto a few better drivers than I. :lol:



Half the girls in the O.C. area??


:rofl:

[cencalc6]

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2012-04-06_11-33-32_843.jpg

It's looking Very Nice Ron! :cheers:

[John510]

WOW! Getting closer!

[tubbed69]

looking good Ron

[Cris@JCG]

I was tempted to paint a green hockey stripe on it from the truck we had in the back ground!

Car looks good on the ground..

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2012-04-06_11-33-32_843.jpg

It's looking Very Nice Ron! :cheers:

[coolwelder62]

Ron,Outside shot look's Killer.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/Build%20Thread/2012-04-06_11-33-32_843.jpg



I've always liked the bare bones, factory lightweight look.

:P

[waynieZ]

It looks great Ron! With a radiator big enough to fill the opening you'll need to warn little children to stay away from the grill, they might get sucked in.
It looks excelent! Glad to see it getting closer.

[Spiffav8]

Oh Yeah Buddy! That's wicked looking! :yes:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Looking good Ron :thumbsup: But aren't you afraid you will scratch that pruuty paint when beating on it :lol: The thought you have put in to this car is just amazing, do you plan to go after the big boys on the track or just have fun? Oh and one picture :rolleyes: Com'on man:cheers:

Hey Rick! Thx for the props; I'm trying to think this through so it walks a fine line between PT street and track beast. 3m wrap is coming as soon as the car is safe to drive. As far as going after the big boys, this game is changing fast...almost a moving target. Watching Optima and even the recent RTTC there's some serious players out there. I'll be happy to get out there and work on the 'driver mod.' :yes:

C'mon Ron, give a little bit more than that! Hurry up with the next update. You got it looking good bro.:yes: :yes:

Sorry Bro, I only snapped one pic!

It's looking Very Nice Ron! :cheers:

WOW! Getting closer!

looking good Ron

Thx fellas! :thumbsup:

I was tempted to paint a green hockey stripe on it from the truck we had in the back ground!

Car looks good on the ground..

Almost Cris...if only it was black, a green silouette hockey stripe would work! Thx for all your help :cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

Ron,Outside shot look's Killer.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thx Scott!

I've always liked the bare bones, factory lightweight look.

:P

That's not of a sound mind...just like me :D

It looks great Ron! With a radiator big enough to fill the opening you'll need to warn little children to stay away from the grill, they might get sucked in.
It looks excelent! Glad to see it getting closer.

Oh Yeah Buddy! That's wicked looking! :yes:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Reminds me of:

5jxcSY1AwrM

Thx fellas!

[War]

Your car is turning out really nice Ron.

[Ron in SoCal]

Appreciate that Jason. I look forward to seeing your rolling artwork in person soon...:cheers:

[OVRKILL]

Holy leg humper Batman! :hail: Car is gonna be sick Ron.....

[chr2002ca]

Looking awesome Ron. Can't wait to see your next update. :thumbsup:

[Gandalf]

Looking good Ron! Clearly I am going to have to take a bunch of spy-shots next week to post :-) Can't wait to see the progress on all the goodies I know you have been stock-piling. And yeah - wrap that puppy ASAP! (Go ahead - ask me how I know lol).

G.

[Ron in SoCal]

Holy leg humper Batman! :hail: Car is gonna be sick Ron.....

Looking awesome Ron. Can't wait to see your next update. :thumbsup:

:cheers: guys!

Looking good Ron! Clearly I am going to have to take a bunch of spy-shots next week to post :-) Can't wait to see the progress on all the goodies I know you have been stock-piling. And yeah - wrap that puppy ASAP! (Go ahead - ask me how I know lol).

G.

I know how you know...:D Seeya next week Bro!

[scherp69]

Looking good Ron. That is going to be one sweet ride :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Looking killer Ron!

[frankv11]

Looking good etc... but Ron we need some pictures come on

[Ron in SoCal]

Looking good Ron. That is going to be one sweet ride :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Looking killer Ron!

Thx Mike and Tones :thumbsup:

Looking good etc... but Ron we need some pictures come on

I'm a buzz kill huh Frank? :D I'm sorry Bro, was in such a rush I took only one. There's a lot going on and still decisions to be made so I don't want to throw something up prematurely. I'll get a couple random plumbing pics up in a couple of days...:thumbsup:

[frankv11]

Yeah Ron your killing me. If you want I'll go take some and post them up. Lol
So are you really going to dog this car on the track because I could imagine it will be a tough first ride.

[Ron in SoCal]

Yeah Ron your killing me. If you want I'll go take some and post them up. Lol
So are you really going to dog this car on the track because I could imagine it will be a tough first ride.

Good question Bro. Time trials and track fun runs for me. No trading paint...:thumbsup:

What are you doing next Saturday? Gotta leave the camera at home...:D

[Track Junky]

Good question Bro. Time trials and track fun runs for me. No trading paint...:thumbsup:

I figured when you went straight to the R888's you'd be using her the way she should be Ron......Like a high dollar........well.....you know :thumbsup:

[Tuske427]

I just saw this car in person the other day and it looks awesome! It sure puts my rickety old clunker car in its place...

[Vegas69]

I figured when you went straight to the R888's you'd be using her the way she should be Ron......Like a high dollar........well.....you know :thumbsup:

That was the FAD in 2009. :lol: Ronnie?

[Ron in SoCal]

I figured when you went straight to the R888's you'd be using her the way she should be Ron......Like a high dollar........well.....you know :thumbsup:

Like a high $$$ ho! :lol:

I just saw this car in person the other day and it looks awesome! It sure puts my rickety old clunker car in its place...

Great meeting you Brendan! I look forward to your Sunday night updates. I bought a hot wheel today in your honor...:thumbsup:

That was the FAD in 2009. :lol: Ronnie?

Now you know, homey, there's no way you or I are wadding up our cars. That's for Gaetano, BMF types or stripped down used vettes...:D

[Track Junky]

That was the FAD in 2009. :lol: Ronnie?

Fad? Cant relate. Must be a Pro-Snoaring thing :rofl:

[Track Junky]

there's no way you or I are wadding up our cars. That's for Gaetano, BMF types or stripped down used vettes...:D

Thats why I carry a spare :unibrow:

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/White%2069%20camaro/LatestWhite69Pics004.jpg

[Tuske427]

Great meeting you Brendan! I look forward to your Sunday night updates. I bought a hot wheel today in your honor...:thumbsup:


Likewise! My Sunday night update is posted. Thank you for the sponsorship. Which one did you get?

[Ron in SoCal]

Likewise! My Sunday night update is posted. Thank you for the sponsorship. Which one did you get?

Jet Stream Blue Corvette. Looks like a Z06, but hard to tell...:thumbsup:

[intocarss]

Hey Ron


Driving directions to , Oxnard, CA 93036-1022

Distance: 44.92 miles — Time: 47 mins


S O, CA
1.0.2 mi/Head toward Lennox Ave on Moorpark St. .
2.0.4 mi/Turn right onto Van Nuys Blvd. .
3.39.6 mi/Turn left and take ramp onto Ventura Fwy West (US-101 N). .
4.0.2 mi/Take exit #57/Central Ave. .
5.3.8 mi/Bear right onto Central Ave. .
6.0.5 mi/Turn left onto E Vineyard Ave (CA-232). .
7.0.2 mi/Turn right onto Lambert St. .
8.Your destination is on the right. The trip takes 44.9 mi/ and 47 mins.
GO GET MORE PICS TOMORROW!!

[frankv11]

Good question Bro. Time trials and track fun runs for me. No trading paint...:thumbsup:

What are you doing next Saturday? Gotta leave the camera at home...:D

no plans but I want to get out to pomona swapmeet on sunday I have yet to see any real proturing projects overthere. i'll be taking my 64 out for a bit fun, hopefully. what do you have going on on sat? can I bring a cell phone?

[Hugger67RSSS]

Ron, I didn't send you that paint to see just one update picture! Hope to see some more updates soon

[Ron in SoCal]

Hey Ron


Driving directions to , Oxnard, CA 93036-1022

Distance: 44.92 miles — Time: 47 mins


S O, CA
1.0.2 mi/Head toward Lennox Ave on Moorpark St. .
2.0.4 mi/Turn right onto Van Nuys Blvd. .
3.39.6 mi/Turn left and take ramp onto Ventura Fwy West (US-101 N). .
4.0.2 mi/Take exit #57/Central Ave. .
5.3.8 mi/Bear right onto Central Ave. .
6.0.5 mi/Turn left onto E Vineyard Ave (CA-232). .
7.0.2 mi/Turn right onto Lambert St. .
8.Your destination is on the right. The trip takes 44.9 mi/ and 47 mins.
GO GET MORE PICS TOMORROW!!

Thx Jerr-dog. Like I've never made that drive...:lol:

no plans but I want to get out to pomona swapmeet on sunday I have yet to see any real proturing projects overthere. i'll be taking my 64 out for a bit fun, hopefully. what do you have going on on sat? can I bring a cell phone?

I'm thinking a personal inspection. I'll call you at the end of the week. I was considering Pomona on Sunday too...

Ron, I didn't send you that paint to see just one update picture! Hope to see some more updates soon

Thx Aarik! It'll go to good use Bro...:cheers:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

hate to break up the bro stroke but any updates hommie? at least throw a picture up every 6 posts. LOL

[syborg tt]

hate to break up the bro stroke but any updates hommie? at least throw a picture up every 6 posts. LOL

now that is some funny sh!t right there

[intocarss]

Thx Jerr-dog. Like I've never made that drive...:lol:





Then you already know it's not that far to go take some "good pics" of your beast. ;)

[Ron in SoCal]

hate to break up the bro stroke but any updates hommie? at least throw a picture up every 6 posts. LOL

now that is some funny sh!t right there

Yeah that Vince is Mr. Personality. Kinda like Jerry, Gaetano, Todd, Dave, Roger, Greg, and 90% of the Lat-G crew. :lol:

Then you already know it's not that far to go take some "good pics" of your beast. ;)

Yeah, so that pic was a 'fender on, ride height reality check.' Fenders are off already. Few more mods and they go back on for good! I'll snap a couple this weekend...

[chr2002ca]

Okay Ron, you started a wheel thread a few weeks back and said you made a decision. Which ones did you go with? Curiosity is getting the best of me here. :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Hey Chris...how's the motor project going? You oughta post some updates cause Dave's getting all the play here...:D

No change yet as cosmetics are taking a back seat on the priority list. I'm thinking 18/19 step lip to get the look I'm after. It won't be a huge depature from the current set up style or color wise. Forgelines or HREs are top of the list. I did toy w the the idea of HRE P40s in a dark tint but I'm not sure they're right for a muscle car.

[214Chevy]

..... Forgelines or HREs are top of the list.

You know what brand of wheel I say go with Ron. :unibrow: :unibrow: The P40's are an excellent wheel choice, but it's a monoblock wheel with no lip. Therefore, the step lips are not an option.

[chr2002ca]

Hey Chris...how's the motor project going? You oughta post some updates cause Dave's getting all the play here...:D

No change yet as cosmetics are taking a back seat on the priority list. I'm thinking 18/19 step lip to get the look I'm after. It won't be a huge depature from the current set up style or color wise. Forgelines or HREs are top of the list. I did toy w the the idea of HRE P40s in a dark tint but I'm not sure they're right for a muscle car.

It's going slowly Ron. It took a back seat to pay for some rounds of IVF that my wife and I are going through in an attempt to finally get a baby on board. It's part of the reason I was selling so much a few months ago. However, I've gotten some things squared away and a little better financial footing to the point where I'm finally going to start buying new parts in about a week. It'll be nice to finally be putting things back together and on my way towards version 2.0. When the first round of parts come in, I'll start a new project build thread and describe what's planned. Got some small suspension, braking, and structure improvements to make first while the car's apart in order to better deal with the extra projected torque and speed. Nothing as fancy as yours, just some minor non-groundbreaking stuff. Then I'll concentrate on the engine and a manual transmission setup.

Your tastes in wheels are very similar to mine. :thumbsup: I've been flip-flopping back and forth between the HRE and Forgeline sites myself a lot recently, and a few others also. I would have to agree with you, I'm not sure the P40's are right for a muscle car with those spokes flush to the outside of the rim like that. Seems more like a good rim for a German or modern car. At RTTC and Del Mar GG, the DSE team had a gorgeous HRE mesh rim with a wide tire mounted on it sitting in their product display area. Did you see it? It was painted in a gunmetal color(or maybe had a tinted clearcoat?) with a brushed rim I think. When I saw it I immediately thought of your ride. The color of your car is perfect for a wheel with really any shade of metal. Could be brushed, tinted, silver powdercoated, or even black, and it'll look great. I would do a different shade than the color of your car though, just to have a little contrast. A polished or brushed hoop would work great also, although I'd probably lean towards a polished hoop if you're running chrome bumpers and/or polished window trim. Anyway, it's all up to you my friend. It's one of those good problems to have. :thumbsup:

[coolwelder62]

WELL,Is it done yet.:willy: :willy:

[Ron in SoCal]

You know what brand of wheel I say go with Ron. :unibrow: :unibrow: The P40's are an excellent wheel choice, but it's a monoblock wheel with no lip. Therefore, the step lips are not an option.

Yep. No lip = not an option. Thx M...:cheers:

It's going slowly Ron. It took a back seat to pay for some rounds of IVF that my wife and I are going through in an attempt to finally get a baby on board. It's part of the reason I was selling so much a few months ago. However, I've gotten some things squared away and a little better financial footing to the point where I'm finally going to start buying new parts in about a week. It'll be nice to finally be putting things back together and on my way towards version 2.0. When the first round of parts come in, I'll start a new project build thread and describe what's planned. Got some small suspension, braking, and structure improvements to make first while the car's apart in order o better deal with the extra projected torque and speed. Nothing as fancy as yours, just some minor non-groundbreaking stuff. Then I'll concentrate on the engine and a manual transmission setup.

Your tastes in wheels are very similar to mine. :thumbsup: I've been flip-flopping back and forth between the HRE and Forgeline sites myself a lot recently, and a few others also. I would have to agree with you, I'm not sure the P40's are right for a muscle car with those spokes flush to the outside of the rim like that. Seems more like a good rim for a German or modern car. At RTTC and Del Mar GG, the DSE team had a gorgeous HRE mesh rim with a wide tire mounted on it sitting in their product display area. Did you see it? It was painted in a gunmetal color(or maybe had a tinted clearcoat?) with a brushed rim I think. When I saw it I immediately thought of your ride. The color of your car is perfect for a wheel with really any shade of metal. Could be brushed, tinted, silver powdercoated, or even black, and it'll look great. I would do a different shade than the color of your car though, just to have a little contrast. A polished or brushed hoop would work great also, although I'd probably lean towards a polished hoop if you're running chrome bumpers and/or polished window trim. Anyway, it's all up to you my friend. It's one of those good problems to have. :thumbsup:

So $$$'s good. IVF's good. Sounds like a perfect recipe for muscle car engine and suspension mods :D J/k Chris! G-d bless you guys and I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers for a postive outcome...:thumbsup:

Oh, and black or contrast on the wheels for sure! I saw a Porsche on the HRE gallery that had a similar color to mine and brushed/titanium (?) tinted clear. Very close color combo but looked sick. Maybe I'm old school, but something just doesn't click for me in my head if the wheels and car color are too close. I will say there was a 68 on PT that painted his mags the same color as his car and it did look good. I'm thinking if I do make a change and go w HREs, I'll ask them to show me a very dark tinted clear over brushed and see how that looks. Not sure, but I think they have a charcoal clear?

[Ron in SoCal]

WELL,Is it done yet.:willy: :willy:

Not done yet Scott. This isn't the Scott and Albert show...:lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Speaking if of wheels being body color...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/IMG_1115.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

That's Cris Dushane's car right? Smokin' hot. Thx Skipper...:thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

That's Cris Dushane's car right? Smokin' hot. Thx Skipper...:thumbsup:

You are are correct Mr. RunRunRonnie.

:D

[Track Junky]

Choosing wheels is a bitch. :yes:

[John510]

You buying your new wheels from Driverz?:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[214Chevy]

You buying your new wheels from Driverz?:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

John, that's just all kinds of wrong!!:rofl:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Choosing wheels is a bitch. :yes:

I feel your pain.

It's tough being a 17" guy in a dub world.



:lol:

[214Chevy]

It's tough being a 17" guy in a dub world.



:lol:

Skip, those 17's can run with the big dogs too. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Skip, those 17's can run with the big dogs too. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Heard the 17" guys say this...'The big dawgs do a pretty good job of keepin up with us'.

:lol:

[tmadden]

Speaking if of wheels being body color...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/IMG_1115.jpg

Dang thats filthy!!!!