1969 Torino [Archive] - Page 7

Wissing72

10-01-2013, 07:32 AM

This thread is lacking some Torino pictures isn't it.

I've been thinking about what this dam thing would look like on the ground for a couple years now. I have to thank Phil and Jeremy at RS for making the stance I had in my head come to life. For me it looks even better than I thought it would. Good enough for the hard core first gen guys to call a short truce and give it some love.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6153_zps0bf30be4.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/Fab50Three/media/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6153_zps0bf30be4.jpg.html)http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6154_zpsa4c66019.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/Fab50Three/media/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6154_zpsa4c66019.jpg.html)http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6152_zps4ee27c8b.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/Fab50Three/media/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6152_zps4ee27c8b.jpg.html)http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6151_zps82b75ce7.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/Fab50Three/media/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6151_zps82b75ce7.jpg.html)

Rob, this ol' girl is looking bad azz! Glad you finally have her together to see what the next phase is. The stance is spot on. Phil is a great guy, I was glad to meet him while out there in July.

intocarss

10-01-2013, 07:34 AM

The FURD is lookn kick ass RobO :waveflag: :thumbsup:

INTMD8

10-01-2013, 08:08 AM

Rob the stance,wheels and tires are bad ass! Nice work :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal

10-01-2013, 08:33 AM

By my count this car showed up in no less than 5 threads yesterday, with the build thread being the last.

Maybe we oughta merge the whole site into one Torino blob thread? :ohsnap: :underchair:

...or Rob could give MattO advice on how to market his car :idea:

:lmao:

GregWeld

10-01-2013, 08:56 AM

I did pick up on the fact that in the one shot -- the car spans TWO houses...

Just sayin'

:popcorn2:

FETorino

10-01-2013, 08:56 PM

Isnt this the view the naysayers will see at the track?:mock:

Just kidding guys, the Torino looks great Rob!

Been working on mine too lately after a six month hiatus.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/IMG_6153_zps0bf30be4.jpg

Hey everyone called it big and ugly till they saw it on the ground. Maybe they are underestimating how well it will work as much as they underestimated how good it would look.:stirthepot:

And Now back to the regular Blue Oval vs Bowtie programming.

Rob, this ol' girl is looking bad azz! Glad you finally have her together to see what the next phase is. The stance is spot on. Phil is a great guy, I was glad to meet him while out there in July.

Thanks Chris. Remember us guys with the big girls gotta stick together.

Yea Phil, Jeremy and Neal are great people. :thumbsup: Anyone who gets to that part of the country must visit that shop. Amazing.

The FURD is lookn kick ass RobO :waveflag: :thumbsup:

Rob the stance,wheels and tires are bad ass! Nice work :thumbsup:

JerDog you need to come down and visit one day.
Jim. Thanks. Hope to see you at the Lat G gathering. Do you think Rick will show up?

By my count this car showed up in no less than 5 threads yesterday, with the build thread being the last.

Maybe we oughta merge the whole site into one Torino blob thread? :ohsnap: :underchair:

That is a dam good idea Ron.

I did pick up on the fact that in the one shot -- the car spans TWO houses...

Just sayin'

:popcorn2:

GW you are right it does make a big first impression:mock:

:cheers:

TAC

10-01-2013, 11:45 PM

Rob, the car looks great.

Well I am a little bit biased though.

WILWAXU

10-02-2013, 04:15 AM

Very cool!

coolwelder62

10-02-2013, 05:24 AM

The Torino is lookin down right Killer.Alway's loved these car's.Just don't have the ball's to build one myself.Can't wait too see this one finished.

torino420

10-02-2013, 07:35 AM

Looks BADA$$ Rob!

GregWeld

10-02-2013, 07:57 AM

Will the Mods please change the title of this thread to "1969 House on Wheels".

:bitchslap: :wacko: :lol:

Matt@BOS

10-02-2013, 08:07 AM

Will the Mods please change the title of this thread to "1969 House on Wheels".

:bitchslap: :wacko: :lol:

It is not so much a double wide as a double long. Still, the resemblance To the former is indeniable. They both need oversized trailers when you move them anywhere.

FETorino

10-02-2013, 10:11 AM

Moot point, but who'd you hire to photograph it?

Scott I was going to call you but you were geographically undesirable.

Rob, the car looks great.

Well I am a little bit biased though.

Looks BADA$$ Rob!

Thanks. I didn't want to disappoint the Torino crowd. Jason I keep reminding you that your DSE back half project was an inspiration for me to move forward with mine.:D

The Torino is lookin down right Killer.Alway's loved these car's.Just don't have the ball's to build one myself.Can't wait too see this one finished.

Thanks Scott. That means a lot coming from a guy who builds some really sweet cars. That Chevelle with the 315s on the front is something to admire.:thumbsup:

Will the Mods please change the title of this thread to "1969 House on Wheels".

:bitchslap: :wacko: :lol:

OK GW so I'll take that as you LOVE IT. Thanks.:mock:

It is not so much a double wide as a double long. Still, the resemblance To the former is indeniable. They both need oversized trailers when you move them anywhere.

Yea who do I know with a BIG trailer? :idea: :idea:

:y0!: GW when she is track ready can I hitch a ride?:excited:

:cheers:

tubbed69

10-02-2013, 11:13 AM

car really looks good Rob,I like these year Torinos

Sieg

10-02-2013, 01:39 PM

Scott I was going to call you but you were geographically undesirable.

Yea who do I know with a BIG trailer? :idea: :idea:

:y0!: GW when she is track ready can I hitch a ride? :excited:

:cheers:
That's geographically handicapped thank you. :mock:

GW's rig does have weight limitations.
:whistling:

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 04:49 PM

Gotta admit Rob, your car is looking awesome!

Flash68

10-02-2013, 04:50 PM

^^ :lol: :rofl:

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 04:54 PM

Really, really fresh interpretation of a fine automobile!

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc352/JohnS510/DSCN0197_zps8221e07e.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/user/JohnS510/media/DSCN0197_zps8221e07e.jpg.html)

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 05:06 PM

M9g1bXjC-h0

FETorino

10-02-2013, 05:09 PM

Gotta admit Rob, your car is looking awesome!

^^ :lol: :rofl:

Really, really fresh interpretation of a fine automobile!

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc352/JohnS510/DSCN0197_zps8221e07e.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/user/JohnS510/media/DSCN0197_zps8221e07e.jpg.html)

:y0!: Ron are those your latest wheels? They look to be right in your wheelhouse.:D

:rolleyes: Like most gang shootings it seems some innocent bystanders got caught in the crossfire.:shakehead:

:cheers:

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 05:10 PM

That all ya got? :lmao:

:cheers:

FETorino

10-02-2013, 05:57 PM

That all ya got? :lmao:

:cheers:

Ya know -- I got to thinking about it.... some Grey Chevy that's been on or near a rotisserie for so long the tires are flat spotted and the best it's been able to muster is a start up video but has yet to roll forward or back...

.

Ron

Next time you build one of these kit cars just pay the extra $$ for the instructions, they can even be downloaded off the web for free, and it will go together quicker.:stirthepot:

:lmao::lmao: :mock:

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/camkit2_zps99961b25.gif (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/camkit2_zps99961b25.gif.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/camkit_zps37dc3257.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/camkit_zps37dc3257.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/camkit_zpsc3b14bba.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/camkit_zpsc3b14bba.jpg.html)

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 06:00 PM

What's that take, an hour on Google? Or did you secretly have that saved on your computer?? :lol:

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 06:04 PM

Lovin all the beautiful GM parts in this thread!

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/badlugs_zpsdde1706a.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/badlugs_zpsdde1706a.jpg.html)

:cheers:

FETorino

10-02-2013, 06:12 PM

What's that take, an hour on Google? Or did you secretly have that saved on your computer?? :lol:

10 min the other 37 min gave me time for Tacos and a beer.:lmao:

Lovin all the beautiful GM parts in this thread!

:cheers:

Nothing made by GM in that picture.

How's that 12 bolt working for ya :poke: :lmao:

:cheers:

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 06:14 PM

Nothing made by GM in that picture.

How's that 12 bolt working for ya :poke: :lmao:

:cheers:

Love my 12 Bolt! :lmao:

Hmmm...can't get those hubs at a Ferd dealer...:cheers:

intocarss

10-02-2013, 07:07 PM

OH gee wizz more black Camaros:drowninga:

GregWeld

10-02-2013, 08:32 PM

That's geographically handicapped thank you. :mock:

GW's rig does have weight limitations.
:whistling:

My trailer is 26' on the flat floor -- and the lift is only rated at 6,000 pounds --- It'll haul a Lotus 2 Eleven - a race prepped Mustang - and a Ford hot rod.... or..... ONE Torino.

FETorino

10-02-2013, 08:37 PM

My trailer is 26' on the flat floor -- and the lift is only rated at 6,000 pounds --- It'll haul a Lotus 2 Eleven - a race prepped Mustang - and a Ford hot rod.... or..... ONE Torino.

The Torino is pretty close to the size of the Lotus :lmao: We should be fine.:closedeyes:

I'll bring the gold card:relax:

Now time for a Ford reboot.

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/pettytor2_zpsd9e9f85f.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/pettytor2_zpsd9e9f85f.jpg.html)

GregWeld

10-02-2013, 08:45 PM

Now time for a Ford reboot.

Let me remember my old Microsoft days..... Hmmmmm..... oh yeah!! REBOOT --- that's ---- CONTROL ---- ALT ---- DELETE.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay -- I figured out how to haul the Torino --- Two guys can lift the Lotus and put it in the trunk of the Torino.

FETorino

10-02-2013, 08:51 PM

Let me remember my old Microsoft days..... Hmmmmm..... oh yeah!! REBOOT --- that's ---- CONTROL ---- ALT ---- DELETE.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Okay -- I figured out how to haul the Torino --- Two guys can lift the Lotus and put it in the trunk of the Torino.

Perfect the Torino is low enough now that you can hold up your side high enough.

I was thinking we could go to LS Fest.:D :popcorn2:

:cheers:

Flash68

10-02-2013, 08:57 PM

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BRC_25_zps88dad77d.jpg

DFRESH

10-02-2013, 09:06 PM

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BRC_25_zps88dad77d.jpg

Needs to be lower Rob

FETorino

10-02-2013, 09:08 PM

Needs to be lower Rob

Yes :thumbsup:

More like this.:D

:topic:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/Gurney_zpsd4a08c8a.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/Gurney_zpsd4a08c8a.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/gurney2_zpse759d243.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/gurney2_zpse759d243.jpg.html)

Sieg

10-02-2013, 09:13 PM

My trailer is 26' on the flat floor -- and the lift is only rated at 6,000 pounds --- It'll haul a Lotus 2 Eleven - a race prepped Mustang - and a Ford hot rod.... or..... ONE Torino.

So much for hauling a backup car................when you need it the most.

:peepwall:

Flash68

10-02-2013, 09:14 PM

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/zl1_zpsb01810f9.jpg

Vegas69

10-02-2013, 09:26 PM

End Thread:lol:

FETorino

10-02-2013, 09:42 PM

End Thread:lol:

Yep no scrubbing will clean that stain out :disgusted: :disgusted:

:shakehead:

Matt@BOS

10-02-2013, 09:43 PM

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/zl1_zpsb01810f9.jpg

Hey Ron, I know you'll see this. Pay attention, this is how you fit an 18x10 wheel on the front of a first gen. Rob, you also need to pay attention because Todd made the rock crawler sized tires look good, and work pretty well too (I feel pretty safe in saying it was a better autocross car then any Torino, ever).

FETorino

10-02-2013, 10:02 PM

Hey Ron, I know you'll see this. Pay attention, this is how you fit an 18x10 wheel on the front of a first gen. Rob, you also need to pay attention because Todd made the rock crawler sized tires look good, and work pretty well too (I feel pretty safe in saying it was a better autocross car then any Torino, ever).

Matt. You should talk to him since you can't seem to get that first gen of yours to measure up to his.:poke:

Me I'm charting my own path and will be just fine.:thankyou:

If I need any help copying what's already been done I'll give you a call.:lmao:

:cheers:

Vegas69

10-02-2013, 10:04 PM

I heard from some of the older guys around here that this car actually ran and the owner explored its capabilities? I thought this site was just to talk about cars. Learn something new everyday.:D

FETorino

10-02-2013, 10:08 PM

I heard from some of the older guys around here that this car actually ran and the owner explored its capabilities? I thought this site was just to talk about cars. Learn something new everyday.:D

You should start a thread on it. Call it "glory days"

:cheers:

Matt@BOS

10-02-2013, 10:12 PM

Matt. You should talk to him since you can't seem to get that first gen of yours to measure up to his.:poke:

Me I'm charting my own path and will be just fine.:thankyou:

If I need any help copying what's already been done I'll give you a call.:lmao:

:cheers:

I suppose I must give credit where credit is due. In a sea of people who like to fix things that aren't broken, (or completed) you manage to stand out for actually trying to fix something that is broken.

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 10:12 PM

You should start a thread on it. Call it "glory days"

:cheers:

Already did. 'Healthy Living' :lol:

Ron in SoCal

10-02-2013, 10:15 PM

I suppose I must give credit where credit is due. In a sea of people who like to fix things that aren't broken, (or completed) you manage to stand out for actually trying to fix something that is broken.

That's profound Bro. I'm gonna sleep on it and get back to you :D

Edit: Guess I was right last night. This site is turning into a Torino Blob :lol:

Matt@BOS

10-02-2013, 10:27 PM

This site is turning into a Torino Blob :lol:

That is why I haven't posted any updates to anything that I've been working on.

We really need Jody to create a section called the junkyard. We will move a few build threads over there. No reason to name names. You guys know who you are. Members will then have to pay a nominal fee to be set free to go digging for information, pictures, etc. Whatever they bring back, if they can find anything of value, will be charged accordingly. Half off on rainy days.

FETorino

10-02-2013, 10:59 PM

That is why I haven't posted any updates to anything that I've been working on.

We really need Jody to create a section called the junkyard. We will move a few build threads over there. No reason to name names. You guys know who you are. Members will then have to pay a nominal fee to be set free to go digging for information, pictures, etc. Whatever they bring back, if they can find anything of value, will be charged accordingly. Half off on rainy days.

It makes a lot of sense Matt. Sometimes a builds technical details, pictures and lessons get buried in antics of peoples friends and errant members. It does make it harder to use those threads for informative purposes.

I'm glad to see you aren't one of those guys. :hello:

Those don't look nearly hellaflush for a man of your refined taste. They do, however, look like a recipe for understeer.

:underchair:

It is not so much a double wide as a double long. Still, the resemblance To the former is indeniable. They both need oversized trailers when you move them anywhere.

:cheers:

Matt@BOS

10-02-2013, 11:35 PM

Oh, we seem to have had a failure to communicate. I was merely stating that I was trying not to bring my build thread back for fear of the inevitable cluttering of Hella flush pictures and other such related "technical discussions" that would surely ensue. Let's not forget the obligatory Torino pics that would have to go up as well. Then someone would bug me about only posting two pictures. Then Jer would put up a shot of Big Red, just because. Yep, I would just prefer to clutter up your thread.

I take my share of responsibility for the wasteland that is quickly spreading here.

Flash68

10-02-2013, 11:39 PM

Then Jer would put up a shot of Big Red, just because.

Yep. That Jer guy. What a menace I tell ya. :whistling:

Vegas69

10-03-2013, 07:13 PM

You should start a thread on it. Call it "glory days"

:cheers:

Don't need to, just sort the threads by popularity. It's still at the top. ha

FETorino

10-03-2013, 08:31 PM

Don't need to, just sort the threads by popularity. It's still at the top. ha

Hmmmm really:headscratch:
You know this to be a fact cuz you've done it ? You've checked this out recently like today before you posted? :headscratch:

Sounds kinda Narcissistic :bitchslap:

Try this routine 2 min each and see if it cures that unhealthy urge of self love.

1.Stitha-Prarthanasana (Prayer Pose)

2.Padmasana (Lotus Pose)

3.Yastikasana (Stick Pose)

4.Parvatasana (Mountain Pose)

5.Trikonasana (Triangle Pose)

6.Garudasana (Eagle Pose)

:cheers:

GregWeld

10-03-2013, 09:21 PM

You know this would make a really great reality TV show....

OMG SEMA is going to be so much fun this year!! I can hardly wait!

Hey Rob -- would you post up those photos of the Torino again? I've got a buddy that is going to photoshop it in sitting side by side the rig... I need to show it to my architect so he can see why a guy needs such a large shop sometimes.

intocarss

10-03-2013, 09:31 PM

Yep. That Jer guy. What a menace I tell ya. :whistling:

HUH WHAT??? :stirthepot:

Vegas69

10-04-2013, 07:39 AM

Hmmmm really:headscratch:
You know this to be a fact cuz you've done it ? You've checked this out recently like today before you posted? :headscratch:

Sounds kinda Narcissistic :bitchslap:

Try this routine 2 min each and see if it cures that unhealthy urge of self love.

1.Stitha-Prarthanasana (Prayer Pose)

2.Padmasana (Lotus Pose)

3.Yastikasana (Stick Pose)

4.Parvatasana (Mountain Pose)

5.Trikonasana (Triangle Pose)

6.Garudasana (Eagle Pose)

:cheers:

I checked after, I just assumed. :lol:

intocarss

10-04-2013, 07:55 AM

GregWeld

10-04-2013, 08:09 AM

I checked after, I just assumed. :lol:

Todd -- Rob forgot the most important position -- MISSIONARY.....

Oh wait -- maybe he can't hold that for 2 minutes.

Flash68

10-04-2013, 12:53 PM

Well, we are almost at 100k views here gang... almost there... just a few more and we can all go back to the other threads.

:stirthepot:

GregWeld

10-04-2013, 02:46 PM

Well, we are almost at 100k views here gang... almost there... just a few more and we can all go back to the other threads.

:stirthepot:

I've already left this one for dead....

Sieg

10-04-2013, 03:13 PM

Ron in SoCal

10-04-2013, 03:14 PM

http://www.sportscarillustrated.com/News_2013/P/news13P_1522.html

:knokwood:

FETorino

10-04-2013, 08:33 PM

Well, we are almost at 100k views here gang... almost there... just a few more and we can all go back to the other threads.

:stirthepot:

Nearly 100K! How'd that happen?

There must be a porn star named Torino.

I didn't even realize we were supposed to pay attention to that.:headscratch:

I though this was just about chronicling the pain and suffering involved in building a one off car.:bang:

How was I supposed to know that I was shooting for a view count. If I'd known I would have just put my wife in the background of all the photos (and take them in focus) that would boost the view count.:D

What am I going to do with all the parts I've been collecting?:headscratch:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_1709_zpsc5a50ec7.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_1709_zpsc5a50ec7.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/T56_zps1900d614.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/T56_zps1900d614.jpg.html)

I've already left this one for dead....

Now that hurts.:shakehead: I've only really started. The build is just picking up speed. Sit back and be patient. :relax: Plenty of updates will be on the way :popcorn2:

:cheers:

intocarss

10-04-2013, 09:27 PM

Who would of ever thought that a Torino would be the hit of Lat-G ;):king:

Sieg

10-04-2013, 09:36 PM

IF you're average photo's were as good as the last few you view count would easily be over 150K by now and you wouldn't have to risk dragging Cheryl into this mess. :D

Flash68

10-05-2013, 12:11 AM

Recycling old parts photos FTW. :trophy-1302:

I didn't even realize we were supposed to pay attention to that.:headscratch:

How was I supposed to know that I was shooting for a view count.

Good point. Spamming Torino pics in everyone ELSE'S threads doesn't actually help one's own view count. :bang:

fleetus macmullitz

10-05-2013, 06:12 AM

This build thread, and like others on lat-g in their current state, is a thread about mostly nothing, yet thrives. :unibrow:

Because it turns out millions around the world are huge fans of 'nothing'. ;)

EQnaRtNMGMI

So based on what currently is shown on TV, I would be optimistic that this thread, combined with the 3 Amigos threads (DP, BMF and GW's combo platter), could be the basis for a stellar all-access cable show... for starters. Then take aim at the proliferation of roddin' rednecks on the tube.

:tv_happy:

GregWeld

10-05-2013, 07:26 AM

So based on what currently is shown on TV, I would be optimistic that this thread, combined with the 3 Amigos threads (DP, BMF and GW's combo platter), could be the basis for a stellar all-access cable show... for starters. Then take aim at the proliferation of roddin' rednecks on the tube.

Those drug habits are hard to kick aren't they skippers......

fleetus macmullitz

10-05-2013, 07:39 AM

Those drug habits are hard to kick aren't they skippers......

:BlahBlah:

lol

Same drug yer on GW, 800mg of lat-g daily.

http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/weeeeeee.gif

intocarss

10-05-2013, 08:35 AM

:BlahBlah:

lol

Same drug yer on GW, 800mg of lat-g daily.

http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/weeeeeee.gif Glad to have you back Skipah !!! Ha Ha last few weeks i know all about drugs
http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/weeeeeee.gif well pain meds anyway :hello:

fleetus macmullitz

10-05-2013, 09:09 AM

Glad to have you back Skipah !!! Ha Ha last few weeks i know all about drugs
http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/weeeeeee.gif well pain meds anyway :hello:

Hope you're recovering as well Jer. :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal

10-05-2013, 10:09 AM

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/techarticles/engines/

FETorino

10-05-2013, 10:11 AM

Recycling old parts photos FTW. :trophy-1302:

:

I just took Matt's advice and walked the rows of my pick a part thread to see what I could collect.

I just keep finding stuff.:D

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/ports.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/chass.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/2x4tp.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/speedway.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/speedmyfloater.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino_con1-4.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/rstorquebox.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/rsunderTor.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino_con4-3.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino_con2b-4.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/dailey3.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino699_zps9cc7a55d.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/torino699_zps9cc7a55d.jpg.html)

Ron in SoCal

10-05-2013, 10:16 AM

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/dailey3.jpg

That's worth a second look :thumbsup:

FETorino

10-05-2013, 10:27 AM

That's worth a second look :thumbsup:

:thankyou: It was a natural compliment to this. :cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/Pondfeblock005-1.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/Pondfeblock005-1.jpg.html)

Sieg

10-05-2013, 11:35 AM

:thankyou: It was a natural compliment to this. :cheers:

That, with out a doubt is the coolest anchor I have ever seen!!!
:hello:

GregWeld

10-05-2013, 11:45 AM

Sieg

10-05-2013, 12:03 PM

^^^^^^^ What he said.....

Rob you poor bastage.... it could be made out of solid gold and you wouldn't get any love... Somehow it's just not as much fun to post up "Dude! Nice parts" or "good job" or "Wow I wish I had one of those"....

I love the fact that you attempted to save some weight with that Aluminum block -- so what's she tip the scales at now? 6500#'s or so?
He knows I love the Torino, it's the pictures that haven't done it any justice. :flashie:

Let's just say Mr. T weighs less than Gwen's Porsche and leave it at that. :captain1:

Matt@BOS

10-05-2013, 01:19 PM

FETorino

10-05-2013, 02:31 PM

That, with out a doubt is the coolest anchor I have ever seen!!!
:hello:

^^^^^^^ What he said.....

Rob you poor bastage.... it could be made out of solid gold and you wouldn't get any love... Somehow it's just not as much fun to post up "Dude! Nice parts" or "good job" or "Wow I wish I had one of those"....

I love the fact that you attempted to save some weight with that Aluminum block -- so what's she tip the scales at now? 6500#'s or so?

Well the block weighs 115lbs. I know I keep adding heavy parts like Kirkey road race seats and 21lb wheels and minimal interior and no AC and the smallest heater box made by vintage air but I'm sure you are pretty spot on at 6500lbs. My power to weight ratio is gonna SUCK for sure.:_paranoid

He knows I love the Torino, it's the pictures that haven't done it any justice. :flashie:

Let's just say Mr. T weighs less than Gwen's Porsche and leave it at that. :captain1:

:grouphug: Thanks Sieg, maybe at SEMA you can give me some photography lessons and I can fix that problem. :wow: that Porsche is over 6500lbs who'd have thunk :headscratch:

Remember this car is an Ultra heavy pig. Keep the story straight :twak:

100k views? I can think of about ten people who now have a new way of quantifying their levels of unproductively. :lol: (yes, I will include myself).

I bet Todd won't be checking as often as before out of fear that it might eventually bump him off the top of the list.

Matt you just can't stop looking at those Iron heads can you?:lmao:

Well hopefully we can all go back to ignoring the view counts :knokwood: (except Todd of course he seems to put a high value on them:poke: ).

Todd can just reopen his thread. I mean, why talk about Payback glory days here where it doesn't help his view count:headscratch:

GregWeld

10-05-2013, 02:58 PM

I gotta tell ya --- that's a pretty hot look right there --- except the CI after the 427 --- that should be FE.....

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino_con2b-4.jpg

Flash68

10-05-2013, 04:08 PM

Well the block weighs 115lbs. I know I keep adding heavy parts like Kirkey road race seats and 21lb wheels and minimal interior and no AC and the smallest heater box made by vintage air but I'm sure you are pretty spot on at 6500lbs. My power to weight ratio is gonna SUCK for sure.:_paranoid

Doesn't matter what the real weight number is. The fact that it LOOKS like it weighs 6500# is what really matters. :lol:

INTMD8

10-05-2013, 04:09 PM

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/ports.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/2x4tp.jpg

What is this stuff? Results of an archaeological dig in Detroit?

Rick D

10-05-2013, 07:23 PM

What is this stuff? Results of an archaeological dig in Detroit?

Ok now that's funny right there!!!:thankyou: Jim you made me laugh out load.:cheering: :cheering: :whistling:

Sieg

10-05-2013, 07:24 PM

What is this stuff? Results of an archaeological dig in Detroit?

BS - They can't afford to dig that deep in Detroit.

Vegas69

10-05-2013, 08:55 PM

100k views? I can think of about ten people who now have a new way of quantifying their levels of unproductively. :lol: (yes, I will include myself).

I bet Todd won't be checking as often as before out of fear that it might eventually bump him off the top of the list.

I shut it down a year ago to give everybody else a chance.

Don't worry guys, once you have pissed enough time and money down the drain, you can have the crown. :relax:

In all seriousness, I really couldn't care less.

FETorino

10-05-2013, 08:57 PM

I gotta tell ya --- that's a pretty hot look right there --- except the CI after the 427 --- that should be FE.....

Probably should these days or someone will think I have an LS7 in there:disgusted:

Doesn't matter what the real weight number is. The fact that it LOOKS like it weighs 6500# is what really matters. :lol:

As long as You are convinced it weighs that that's all that matters.:action-smiley-027:

Ok now that's funny right there!!!:thankyou: Jim you made me laugh out load.:cheering: :cheering: :whistling:

Lurker :lmao:

What is this stuff? Results of an archaeological dig in Detroit?

The story goes. ...... We were out in Riverside at the Moreno Valley mall when we came upon them. The Tang packets nearby first led us to believe they were from the late 50s.

When we discovered an empty Miracle Whip container full of head bolts and washers we knew we were dealing with pieces from 1964 or later.

It was the Pringles potatochip can that had been used to prop the intake up that nailed the date of manufacture as 1969.

Naturally we assumed they were spares from Richard Pettys winning effort at Riverside that year, cleaned them up and used them.:popcorn2:

:buttkick: Jim that 59 390 really has you hating old engine parts doesn't it :lmao:

:cheers:

Rick D

10-06-2013, 05:15 AM

Hey I just lurk in your thread :action-smiley-027: :hello:

Just waiting to see a an update on the car not just pictures of parts!!

DOOM

10-06-2013, 05:27 PM

Rob I love the rendering! I gotta say it looks badazz!!!!!!!!! I agree with Greg put that FE on the hood! Man these guys give you alot of sh!t but they love you!:grouphug:

Vegas69

10-06-2013, 08:34 PM

Why not put the real cubic inches on the hood?

FETorino

10-06-2013, 09:25 PM

Rob I love the rendering! I gotta say it looks badazz!!!!!!!!! I agree with Greg put that FE on the hood! Man these guys give you alot of sh!t but they love you!:grouphug:

Thanks Mario. I think the picture at stance looks pretty dam close to that rendering. So step one is done:yes:

Why not put the real cubic inches on the hood?

Just like the cars back in the day it is trying to pay homage to. The rules and the writing on the hood said one thing and what was running may have been something different.:lmao:

There never was a 496 CI grand national car. It's just a personal preference but I never have been a fan of updating the stock emblems with the new #s when using emblems. In my case the hood lettering is analogous to a factory emblem and I don't want to change it.

:cheers:

Flash68

10-07-2013, 12:27 AM

I think the picture at stance looks pretty dam close to that rendering.

So I guess there was a good reason there was no 3/4 view REAR rendering done. :peepwall:

Vegas69

10-07-2013, 07:22 AM

I get it now, when you lose to a Chevy they'll think you only have 427 cubes. :D

Matt@BOS

10-07-2013, 08:11 AM

So I guess there was a good reason there was no 3/4 view REAR rendering done. :peepwall:

It's probably because it costs extra to have something rendered that is so big it only fits on 11x17.

GregWeld

10-07-2013, 10:10 AM

It's probably because it costs extra to have something rendered that is so big it only fits on 11x17.

I think what you meant to say was that there wasn't enough butcher paper on a roll....

FETorino

10-07-2013, 07:27 PM

I get it now, when you lose to a Chevy they'll think you only have 427 cubes. :D

I'm just following your lead since all ZL1s were hydraulic roller and 489ci:lmao:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/zl1_zpse7107567.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/zl1_zpse7107567.jpg.html)

So I guess there was a good reason there was no 3/4 view REAR rendering done. :peepwall:

It's probably because it costs extra to have something rendered that is so big it only fits on 11x17.

I think what you meant to say was that there wasn't enough butcher paper on a roll....

Don't worry, I contacted Fathead wall art and they said they could do a 3/4 rear view. They'll be ready for you guys in time for Christmas.:)

:cheers:

Vegas69

10-07-2013, 08:20 PM

You got me...:waveflag: :lol:

FETorino

10-07-2013, 08:41 PM

You got me...:waveflag: :lol:

Or I'm copying you:D

:happy23:

billetman

10-11-2013, 08:22 PM

I just took Matt's advice and walked the rows of my pick a part thread to see what I could collect.

I just keep finding stuff.:D

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/ports.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/chass.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/2x4tp.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/speedway.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/speedmyfloater.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino_con1-4.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/rstorquebox.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/rsunderTor.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino_con4-3.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino_con2b-4.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/dailey3.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino699_zps9cc7a55d.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/torino699_zps9cc7a55d.jpg.html)

Oh Yeah!! There's the right stuff to kill a large quantity of Chevrolets!!

Vegas69

10-11-2013, 08:47 PM

I'll concede an Impala SS or a Caprice Classic. :lol:

Ron in SoCal

10-11-2013, 09:30 PM

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http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/speedmyfloater.jpg
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Dracula's finger could kill any brand of car, even a Ford.

:D :cheers:

FETorino

10-11-2013, 10:51 PM

Oh Yeah!! There's the right stuff to kill a large quantity of Chevrolets!!

Yes sir that is the plan. :D Stay tuned :popcorn2:

I'll concede an Impala SS or a Caprice Classic. :lol:

Is THAT what your driving these days:headscratch: I should have known:mock:

Dracula's finger could kill any brand of car, even a Ford.

:D :cheers:

Why are you making fun of my dainty little hand model fingers. You know how sensitive I am about that. :buttkick:

I've been trying to get some stuff done at the night job. You know all the glamorous stuff everyone who builds one of these cars suffers through.

Puling out the old 390 mock up motor on Thurs. It took me a couple hours mainly because the cherry picker won't fit under the crossmember for some reason. It's like the car sits only 5", or less, off the ground or something crazy like that.:) Just for the heck of it I weighed the car without the motor and trans to get an idea where I was starting. It will be cool to catalogue how the weight keeps adding up as the build progresses.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2289_zpsa59c4c6a.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2289_zpsa59c4c6a.jpg.html)

That left uncovered a bunch of extra metal that needed to be cut our tonight.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2306_zps9ca7e236.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2306_zps9ca7e236.jpg.html)

I got all of it but the top of the shock towers with a grinder but luckily I was saved by a skilled guy with a plasma cutter who finished the top of the shock towers off for me or I'd still be there.:faint:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2304_zpscd43e0b8.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2304_zpscd43e0b8.jpg.html)

I got some help from a couple of young eager aspiring car builders to start stripping and cleaning the interior out. Man I'm glad they were around. It had gotten a little crusty from me letting it sit.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2305_zps3f411ba2.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2305_zps3f411ba2.jpg.html)

Another couple of crappy days of cutting and cleaning and then it's on to the fun stuff.

:cheers:

fleetus macmullitz

10-11-2013, 11:33 PM

Congrats on the progress Rob, that's got to feel good. Nice to have some help with that stuff as well.

jarhead

10-12-2013, 04:58 AM

That's a nice tunnel hump Rob, did RS make that?

I had to make my own for my TKO, Torino swap, it isn't as pretty...

Joe

Sieg

10-12-2013, 09:02 AM

Looking good T-Rob! :thumbsup:

214Chevy

10-12-2013, 02:46 PM

Yeah Rob, that hump is sweet. I love the factory looking bead roll.

FETorino

10-13-2013, 08:38 PM

Congrats on the progress Rob, that's got to feel good. Nice to have some help with that stuff as well.

Looking good T-Rob! :thumbsup:

:thankyou: Feels good to actually get some hands on work done and shed some weight.:lol:

That's a nice tunnel hump Rob, did RS make that?

I had to make my own for my TKO, Torino swap, it isn't as pretty...

Joe

Yeah Rob, that hump is sweet. I love the factory looking bead roll.

Yes RS made the hump.

Joe quit holding out :twak: let's see some pictures of that Torino :D

Marcus

The floors up to the bead roll portion are aftermarket replacement pieces then RS formed the hump and driveshaft tunnel.:thumbsup: Let's see some updates on your Chevelle thread.

:cheers:

intocarss

10-13-2013, 09:18 PM

She's making progress now!!!! :hapdance:

Greg from Aus

10-14-2013, 04:43 AM

Looking good Rob, wait did I just say that. :thumbsup:

Rick D

10-14-2013, 05:07 AM

Nice Rob!! Now get it running!!! :D

Ripped

10-14-2013, 09:21 AM

Looks great Rob... just remember the longer you take, the more time I get to tweak the car, and hone my less-than-stellar driving skills :unibrow:

Sieg

10-14-2013, 09:29 AM

Looking good Rob, wait did I just say that. :thumbsup:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OxO0sc6H2OI/UUXdLvtyEvI/AAAAAAAACvo/g8Ps7mHe59s/s1600/dog-with-bone-300x300.png

Flash68

10-21-2013, 12:46 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300995197609&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120

Greg from Aus

10-21-2013, 03:39 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300995197609&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120

Ha Ha Ha , do it Rob you know you want to. :poke: :poke:

fleetus macmullitz

10-21-2013, 05:09 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300995197609&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120

Flash,

It'd be nice if you'd have an extra one hangin in the closet for(d) when friends visit on those chilly NorCal days and nites.

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mxiPvfFBu7kF8Sx-c5hYOvQ.jpg

:gitrdun:

lol

jarhead

10-21-2013, 05:41 AM

Flash,

It'd be nice if you'd have an extra one hangin in the closet for(d) when friends visit on those chilly NorCal days and nites.

http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mxiPvfFBu7kF8Sx-c5hYOvQ.jpg

:gitrdun:

lol

It doesnt appear it comes in "Men's" size, only goes up to L :popcorn2:

GregWeld

10-21-2013, 07:53 AM

Is that a PINK cherry picker??

Can I buy that from you for Baby Georgia Anne?

Now that you've taken something apart..... it'll be quite awhile before you'll have a need for it to put anything back together.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2289_zpsa59c4c6a.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2289_zpsa59c4c6a.jpg.html)

TAC

10-21-2013, 09:31 AM

Looking good Rob, what's the plans for the dash. Are you going to use that stock dashpad frame to build something custom?

FETorino

10-21-2013, 10:21 AM

Looking good Rob, wait did I just say that. :thumbsup:

Yes you did:secret:

Nice Rob!! Now get it running!!! :D

Maybe before yours.:D

Looks great Rob... just remember the longer you take, the more time I get to tweak the car, and hone my less-than-stellar driving skills :unibrow:

I'm here for you :mock:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OxO0sc6H2OI/UUXdLvtyEvI/AAAAAAAACvo/g8Ps7mHe59s/s1600/dog-with-bone-300x300.png

Every once and a While even a Ford get thrown a bone on this site.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300995197609&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120

Ha Ha Ha , do it Rob you know you want to. :poke: :poke:

It doesnt appear it comes in "Men's" size, only goes up to L :popcorn2:

Is there a need to sell it in a mans size :headscratch: I don't think so.:underchair:

Is that a PINK cherry picker??

Can I buy that from you for Baby Georgia Anne?

Now that you've taken something apart..... it'll be quite awhile before you'll have a need for it to put anything back together.

Sure looks pink to me. It's not mine but as they say Anything is for sale for the right price.

If by quite a while you mean I won't need the engine hoist before SEMA you may be wrong.:popcorn2:

Looking good Rob, what's the plans for the dash. Are you going to use that stock dashpad frame to build something custom?

Gary you are correct. Brett pointed out to me that the metal shell from the stock dash should save some fab time.

:cheers:

Rick D

10-21-2013, 07:48 PM

Nice Rob!! Now get it running!!! :D

Maybe before yours.:D
:

Take it easy there, mine still runs!!! :D just because I'm painting mine doesn't mean it's "ALL" apart! :innocent:

Lenie

10-21-2013, 08:47 PM

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2289_zpsa59c4c6a.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2289_zpsa59c4c6a.jpg.html)
Careful Rob, known fact...those pink cherry pickers lift less!:action-smiley-027: :D

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2305_zps3f411ba2.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2305_zps3f411ba2.jpg.html)

Floorboards turned out great, nice work...been following along, some pretty cool stuff you got going on:tv_happy:

Now I'll jump on the band wagon, when you're finished, maybe we all(the entire forum): can go cruzin' in your car:underchair: :waveflag: Seriously tho, cool ride.

Sieg

10-21-2013, 09:03 PM

maybe we all(the entire forum): can go cruzin' in your car:underchair: :waveflag:
http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/Jack.gif

GregWeld

10-21-2013, 09:51 PM

maybe we all(the entire forum): can go cruzin' in your car:underchair: :waveflag: Seriously tho, cool ride.

Oh.... that's not going to buff out!!

:lmao:

96z28ss

10-21-2013, 10:00 PM

wow, 163 pages! and it feels like you're just now starting.

TAC

10-21-2013, 10:14 PM

I'm sure some of us were pink "cherry" pickers once in our lives

jarhead

10-22-2013, 04:08 AM

not sure how you guys go back and quote each other...

but seriously, I haven't laughed so damn hard!

And "Lenie" filling Rob's Torino with "ALL" forum members, now that is just classic :lmao:

intocarss

10-22-2013, 07:41 AM

Now I'll jump on the band wagon, when you're finished, maybe we all(the entire forum): can go cruzin' in your car:underchair: :waveflag: Seriously tho, cool ride. I called SHOTGUN last year!!

67zo6Camaro

10-26-2013, 11:42 AM

Somebody was making a mess in the shop. Rumor has it, that he likes to cut other peoples stuff up.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Fab50Three/Rob%20FE%2069%20Torino/0554f821-dd33-4abc-89ce-ace79e8f2fc1_zpsdb0c6c44.jpg

FETorino

10-26-2013, 08:25 PM

Everyone seemed to like that trans tunnel RS did.:thumbsup:

So I cut part of it out.:slingshot:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2331_zps278ddd21.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2331_zps278ddd21.jpg.html)

Took my Big, Heavy, Old, outdated, dinosaur of a tunnelport sideoiler over to the shop now that I'm ready to set it in the chassis for fitment. :D I set it on one of my scales while I was there just for fun.:popcorn2:

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2328_zps56a56882.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2328_zps56a56882.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2329_zpsbee48189.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2329_zpsbee48189.jpg.html)

Ron in SoCal

10-26-2013, 10:21 PM

Took my Big, Heavy, Old, outdated, dinosaur of a tunnelport sideoiler over to the shop now that I'm ready to set it in the chassis for fitment. :D I set it on one of my scales while I was there just for fun.:popcorn2:

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2328_zps56a56882.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2328_zps56a56882.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2329_zpsbee48189.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2329_zpsbee48189.jpg.html)

Time to get yer scales cali-brated. :lol:

GregWeld

10-26-2013, 10:31 PM

I'd just wedge section the entire car right down the middle - take about 6 inches out of it -- then whack it door to door about a foot….

Or you could just buy a '69 Camaro.

FETorino

10-26-2013, 10:46 PM

Time to get yer scales cali-brated. :lol:

I know it hurts you to read it but the scale is right. You better get used to being disappointed by the lack of big numbers:mock:

I'd just wedge section the entire car right down the middle - take about 6 inches out of it -- then whack it door to door about a foot….

Or you could just buy a '69 Camaro.

Hey GW how many of those 69 Kit cars do you own?:underchair: :lmao: :lmao:

:cheers:

GregWeld

10-26-2013, 10:54 PM

Hey GW how many of those 69 Kit cars do you own?:underchair: :lmao: :lmao:

:cheers:

The two drop tops I owned had cowl shake so bad you'd loose the steering wheel if not held tightly with both hands….

The Z/28 Coupes I owned were all the "matching numbers" variety so they're "untouchable"…. and that whole thing gets real boring real fast unless you can afford to own the uber versions…

I'm a fan of cheap cars I can just beat on - drive - and move on when I'm ready. Oh - except if there's a "30" in the year -- then I want ultra expensive kit cars that I can sell for 35K or so when I'm done with 'em.

Vegas69

10-26-2013, 11:08 PM

Go 450-475 dressed? Not bad....

FETorino

10-26-2013, 11:30 PM

Go 450-475 dressed? Not bad....

Yep.

The stand the motor is on is probably 15 so subtract that to get 360lbs starting weight.

The Findanza flywheel is 14lbs
My CVR waterpump is 5.8 lbs and the adapters are another 3.
My 3G alt is 15.4 lbs
RST clutch and pressure plate are 22.5lbs.
PS pump I'm not sure but maybe 15lbs.
Holley carb 13 lbs

Most the oil is back in the tank.

That's 82 lbs + maybe another 5 to 7 for the AL brackets.

So it should be right about 450 or a little less.

Need to add headers though they might as well count as part of the motor.

:cheers:

DOOM

10-27-2013, 06:16 AM

BB's forever Rob! They have no idea!:Tomcat:

TAC

10-27-2013, 08:52 PM

Vince@Meanstreets

10-27-2013, 09:22 PM

what did that bellhousing weigh? not too shabby. Tell Brett he should put you on payroll. :rules:

GregWeld

10-27-2013, 09:44 PM

Yep.

The stand the motor is on is probably 15 so subtract that to get 360lbs starting weight.

The Findanza flywheel is 14lbs
My CVR waterpump is 5.8 lbs and the adapters are another 3.
My 3G alt is 15.4 lbs
RST clutch and pressure plate are 22.5lbs.
PS pump I'm not sure but maybe 15lbs.
Holley carb 13 lbs

Most the oil is back in the tank.

That's 82 lbs + maybe another 5 to 7 for the AL brackets.

So it should be right about 450 or a little less.

Need to add headers though they might as well count as part of the motor.

:cheers:

The entire LOTUS weighs 1450….

Think about that. What's that -- your motor and trans and 4 wheels???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I was amazed at your weight of the motor though I have to say!

FETorino

10-27-2013, 10:14 PM

Rob, that's impressive. I never would have thought the engine would be that low weight, even with all the alum..
I have a few small parts for the dash if you need something. I won't be using on my car. Let me know what you may need, free to good home.
I also have a few exterior parts.

I think I have all the dash parts I need but you never know.:thumbsup:

what did that bellhousing weigh? not too shabby. Tell Brett he should put you on payroll. :rules:

The bell weighs 24lbs.

The entire LOTUS weighs 1450….

Think about that. What's that -- your motor and trans and 4 wheels???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I was amazed at your weight of the motor though I have to say!

When I bought the block it shipped regular UPS since it was less than 115lbs.:D

BTW GW all 4 wheels are less than 100lbs.
Tires are 136lbs
Trans is another 135lbs
So we'll need a few more parts to hit your 1450 #.:action-smiley-027:

One day when I'm done with this car I'm putting together a backup track car. a Factory Five 818R. Sure it's heavy but it will have 225 hp.

:cheers:

Sieg

10-27-2013, 11:33 PM

Rob - I guessing you've weighed the brakes?

Did you get a rolling chassis weight?

67zo6Camaro

10-27-2013, 11:36 PM

Rob - I guessing you've weighed the brakes?

Did you get a rolling chassis weight?

Yep it's _____. Well I better let him tell you. lol. but all I can say is it's not bad. Final weight could see the 3200lb mark.

Sieg

10-27-2013, 11:48 PM

Yep it's _____. Well I better let him tell you. lol. but all I can say is it's not bad. Final weight could see the 3200lb mark.
Very respectable :thumbsup:

My car is 3360 with 10 gal of fuel in it.

FETorino

10-28-2013, 12:28 AM

Yep it's _____. Well I better let him tell you. lol. but all I can say is it's not bad. Final weight could see the 3200lb mark.

Yep the chassis and body were :secret: :secret: lbs.

Kinda heavy.

:cheers:

jarhead

10-28-2013, 03:57 AM

The bell weighs 24lbs.

:cheers:

Rob, does the T56 QT bell have to be indexed? Seems like it has a huge hole, unlike the TKO that slips around a collar on the trans/input shaft.

Whatever you do, don't index it, laying on your back, under your "Torin" while it is up on saw horses. It is a pain.

Joe, Lance Corporal in the Jack stand Army :waveflag:

jarhead

11-05-2013, 12:27 PM

Hmmmmm...

I see someone was thinking ahead and said "Rob may want to run some exhaust pipes through here"

Been studying these pictures, and thinking???

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/rst2.jpg

Flash68

11-05-2013, 01:25 PM

Why don't you less time on here and weighing everything and being defensive about Betsy's weight situation and more time making progress? :twak:

You got your parts.
You got a shop to work in.
You have tools (Brett's).
And you have Brett when you get in trouble.

So what's your excuse Sally? :bitchslap:

Oh, and I'll see ya tmrw... :D

:cheers:

Wissing72

11-06-2013, 05:36 PM

Dig seeing the progress Rob!

FETorino

11-16-2013, 02:34 PM

Dig seeing the progress Rob!

Thanks Chris:thumbsup:

How about some Parts pictures? are those good?

As I kept trimming the firewall further and further to give myself clearance to set the motor down and back it became apparent that the stock hanging pedals weren't going to cut it.

Here was the first test fit with a minimal cut. In this picture the motor was still .25" off center and you can see I have no clearance between the VC and remaining firewall. You can also see how close the 4 bolts that hold the stock pedal hanger are to the VC. I ended cutting the firewall to the other side of the mounting holes so no more stock pedal hanger.:headscratch:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/9bb036b3-1467-45f6-b755-d0c1217bce33_zps581fea87.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/9bb036b3-1467-45f6-b755-d0c1217bce33_zps581fea87.jpg.html)

Earlier in the week Brett had pointed out I had plenty of room for a floor pedal set up. I agreed with him but my concern was the header collectors need to go somewhere and that path would be down near the footwell. But after cutting the firewall to where I wanted it and measuring it was clear I have a lot more flexibility with fitting the floor pedals than a hanging set. :hairpullout:

So I went shopping.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2387_zpsd355f5cb.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2387_zpsd355f5cb.jpg.html)

Although this is a 600 series Tilton Pedal set up it has the 900 series bracket to run the Series 77 master cylinders. The mounting of these is supposed to eliminate binding in pedal travel and the migrating of the bias due to some of the binding.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2389_zpsc3ab33ba.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2389_zpsc3ab33ba.jpg.html)

Having put the motor in the chassis where I want it to sit it is also clear that a front plate and midplate set up would make sense for mounting the motor.

The front plate will also give me a nice plane to use for the PS pump and alt mounting brackets that don't yet exist. Since I have a Peterson stackable mandrel drive I can use whatever existing PS or Alt brackets I like the look of and tailor the belt alignment via the position of the pulleys on the Peterson Mandrel. Those parts arrived long time ago so here is a reminder what they look like. This is better than digging through the wrecking yard this thread sorta is.:D

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_1699_zps598da9d8.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_1699_zps598da9d8.jpg.html)

The Midplate will be a custom piece that Brett will fab. The front plate I got from Chris Alston Chassisworks. It has plenty of extra material I will trim off once all the final mounting positions of the motor and accessories are determined. As you can see in the photo my chief parts guy checked it all out and told me it was good to go.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2385_zps44c05f49.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2385_zps44c05f49.jpg.html)

:cheers:

Wissing72

11-16-2013, 03:40 PM

jarhead

11-16-2013, 03:48 PM

WOW, car parts in the house, on the coffee table no less, lol.

INTMD8

11-17-2013, 03:59 PM

WOW, car parts in the house, on the coffee table no less, lol.

Yep the chassis and body were :secret: :secret: lbs.

Kinda heavy.

:cheers:

The one chance this thread would contain any real tech and all we get is :secret: !!!!

FETorino

11-17-2013, 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=FETorino;517032]Thanks Chris:thumbsup:

How about some Parts pictures? are those good?

Rob, I have lots of parts but most of them are in the boxes still. They get mocked up and then put away. I don't get up there much to get all the photos I want. (I should send Sieg go over and have him photograph it.:idea:) I am also not cutting the car up as far as you are, so the fab work is not as intense either.
Your car is looking killer and the parts you have been showing off are impressive as well, can't wait to see how it all comes together.

Things always seem to move slower than you want but you need to keep that balance in life and not fixate on any one thing too much. The car is one part of my day to day life. Probably the most expensive but not the most important. That being said I move a little farther forward every day and before you know it the parts will be a car.

I keep waiting for some updates on your + sized girl:D

WOW, car parts in the house, on the coffee table no less, lol.

Shhh :secret: My wife was at a birthday party today so I got away with the coffee table photo shoot:lmao:

The one chance this thread would contain any real tech and all we get is :secret: !!!!

Jim what do you want:headscratch: I told you how much the motor weighs.
The car weighs less than a 57 Caddy.

:cheers:

intocarss

11-17-2013, 10:41 PM

IT'S ABOUT TIME!!:rules: And i got car parts all over my house :hapdance:

Flash68

11-18-2013, 11:11 PM

I am really liking those pedals.... :G-Dub:

Matt@BOS

11-19-2013, 08:51 AM

Have fun making the pedals fit. :G-Dub:

Flash68

11-19-2013, 08:55 AM

Have fun making the pedals fit. :G-Dub:

It's all part of the Ron Myers My Car Will Never Get On The Road Plan.

:hello:

Sieg

11-19-2013, 09:17 AM

Have fun making the pedals fit. :G-Dub:

Brett is near and has no fear......:gitrdun:

fleetus macmullitz

11-19-2013, 09:17 AM

It's all part of the Ron Myers My Car Will Never Get On The Road Plan.

:hello:

Wavesmiley all ya want, but that's hurtful Mr. Kat'mandu.

FETorino

11-19-2013, 07:01 PM

I am really liking those pedals.... :G-Dub:

What's not to like :D Other than a max pedal ratio of only 5.75 to1.

This will require some recalculations of master size and pad COF. :headscratch:

Have fun making the pedals fit. :G-Dub:

Well looking back a few pages you can see a picture of the toeboard to frame clearance and a nice void waiting for some master cylinders. After Brett had mentioned floor mount pedals I took a few measurements to see how much room was available. Seems pretty roomy.

As far as the issue you had with the angle of the pedals when mounted perpendicular to the floor. I'm a little taller than some so my seat will be as low as practical. I test fit the Kirkey seats once and mocked up a driving position. In my case with the seat was so low I noticed the opposite of you in that my original swing pedals seemed awkward since they were obviously designed with a seat whose base was 9" off the floor in mind. The floor pedals and my Kirkey low on the floorpans feels right at home like my old shifter kart seating.

Starting from scratch with seat, pedal and steering wheel position makes the recipe easier since they are all getting planned as a unit.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/80b3b113-ba9b-4bd0-8985-07909c55e7bf_zps872c642c.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/80b3b113-ba9b-4bd0-8985-07909c55e7bf_zps872c642c.jpg.html)

It's all part of the Ron Myers My Car Will Never Get On The Road Plan.

:hello:

Wavesmiley all ya want, but that's hurtful Mr. Kat'mandu.

Yea DG why so mean to Ron. :shakehead: :snapout:

Brett is near and has no fear......:gitrdun:

Yea If I get speed wobbles I know a skilled craftsman within ear shot:D

:cheers:

Ron in SoCal

11-19-2013, 07:37 PM

It's all part of the Ron Myers My Car Will Never Get On The Road Plan.

:hello:

Hey, I'm trail blazing for others ..:lol:

Wavesmiley all ya want, but that's hurtful Mr. Kat'mandu.

Yea DG why so mean to Ron. :shakehead: :snapout:

:cheers:

Thanks for standing up Boys. Cole Trickle will get his :bitchslap: :D

Ron in SoCal

11-19-2013, 07:51 PM

Nice pedals Robo :thumbsup:

fleetus macmullitz

11-19-2013, 08:00 PM

Hey, I'm trail blazing for others ..:lol:

This is true! :unibrow:

http://i0.wp.com/thelaughhouse.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/QClQKSqP11.gif

FETorino

11-21-2013, 08:28 PM

Nice pedals Robo :thumbsup:

Found a used Go Pedal that seems to fill out the set.:D I was going to get out the good camera but I didn't want to disappoint GW.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/gopedal_zpsc195f129.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/gopedal_zpsc195f129.jpg.html)

:cheers:

Rick D

11-22-2013, 05:06 AM

Nice pedal set up Rob, glad to see you making some progress on the old girl!! That's better then some of us can say :knock:

intocarss

11-22-2013, 09:52 PM

Found a used Go Pedal that seems to fill out the set.:D I was going to get out the good camera but I didn't want to disappoint GW.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/gopedal_zpsc195f129.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/gopedal_zpsc195f129.jpg.html)

:cheers:

How big is your foot :confused59: That is nice though

DOOM

11-23-2013, 06:36 AM

Rob that pedal is badazz!!! I love it!!!

GregWeld

11-23-2013, 07:36 AM

Nice! Looks exactly like the pedal in my Freightliner!

FETorino

11-23-2013, 11:24 AM

Nice pedal set up Rob, glad to see you making some progress on the old girl!! That's better then some of us can say :knock:

Rob that pedal is badazz!!! I love it!!!

Thanks

Mario It's billet and anodized, one a few select parts that actually wouldn't look out of place on a build of your caliber. I scored it used so I couldn't resist.:D

How big is your foot :confused59: That is nice though

My feet are dainty and well manicured just in case I want to expand beyond my hand model career.:action-smiley-027: Thanks JD where you been hiding. I want to come check out that truck of yours. Too bad you moved the seat from it's correct position.:lol:

Nice! Looks exactly like the pedal in my Freightliner!

I source most of my parts from the Freightliner catalogue for obvious reasons.:lmao:

:cheers:

GregWeld

11-23-2013, 11:52 AM

Just so you know -- this build will be the one getting the most 'begs' for a ride along….

Sieg

11-23-2013, 01:28 PM

Just so you know -- this build will be the one getting the most 'begs' for a ride along….

Especially when he gets the bar and TV installed in the back seat.

GregWeld

11-23-2013, 05:01 PM

By the time this car is finished we'll have people living in colonies on the moon… and TV will be holographic.

FTW!!!

:hapdance:

intocarss

11-23-2013, 05:21 PM

HEY... I called SHOTGUN last year :rules: !!!Or was it the year before :peepwall:

GregWeld

11-23-2013, 05:29 PM

HEY... I called SHOTGUN last year :rules: !!!Or was it the year before :peepwall:

Dude --- It's way faster to just find a nice used race car and buy that instead… you know - before you're too old to still have a drivers license.

Track Junky

11-23-2013, 05:35 PM

Your on the money with those pedals if the seat base is low. Thats what those pedals are designed for. whats the giant gas pedal for? :lol:

intocarss

11-23-2013, 05:36 PM

Dude --- It's way faster to just find a nice used race car and buy that instead… you know - before you're too old to still have a drivers license.

Now that's funny rt there :cheers:

Sieg

11-23-2013, 05:38 PM

Whats the giant gas pedal for? :lol:
A real pedal masher!
http://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop/images/ShoeBeeBluYellRed.jpg

GregWeld

11-23-2013, 05:48 PM

It's all part of the Ron Myers My Car Will Never Get On The Road Plan.

:hello:

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Pure definition of the pot calling the kettle black….

Track Junky

11-23-2013, 05:50 PM

Gregs on a roll. Don't think he's mist a beat yet. :lol:

Vince@Meanstreets

11-23-2013, 05:55 PM

FETorino

11-23-2013, 10:00 PM

Just so you know -- this build will be the one getting the most 'begs' for a ride along….

I've already started the begging for it to ride along in your trailer.:D

Especially when he gets the bar and TV installed in the back seat.

Sorry Sieg... No back seat.

By the time this car is finished we'll have people living in colonies on the moon… and TV will be holographic.

FTW!!!

:hapdance:

I hear the I phone6 will have the holographic feature. Aliens built the pyramids so that art is already covered.:lmao:

HEY... I called SHOTGUN last year :rules: !!!Or was it the year before :peepwall:

Remind me what size Kirkey I need to order for the passenger side.:D

Your on the money with those pedals if the seat base is low. Thats what those pedals are designed for. whats the giant gas pedal for? :lol:

A real pedal masher!
http://madhattermagicshop.com/magicshop/images/ShoeBeeBluYellRed.jpg

Sieg I thought I just lost those shoes in LV. Now I find out you stole them out of my luggage. Bad roommate bad.:twak:

GAE

Yes I did a bunch of reading on the pros and cons of swing vs floor pedals after mocking up my Kirkey in the car. Then :idea: I remembered how natural my Kart pedals felt with the seat being the low point. Duh, I should have already known that floor mounts would be the way to go.

It's all part of the Ron Myers My Car Will Never Get On The Road Plan.

:hello:
^^^^^^^^^^^^ Pure definition of the pot calling the kettle black….

No statement could be more true
:king:

Ron in SoCal

11-24-2013, 07:50 AM

I've already started the begging for it to ride along in your trailer.:D

No statement could be more true
:king:

Known fact, Greg only tows other people's silver (or grey?) Camaros.

Sorry Bro :lol:

FETorino

11-24-2013, 10:54 AM

Known fact, Greg only tows other people's silver (or grey?) Camaros.

Sorry Bro :lol:

Fact, GW is a die hard Camaro guy.:popcorn2:

Wissing72

11-24-2013, 11:29 AM

Rob, the pedals look awesome! Now get them installed....:popcorn2:

Ron Sutton

11-24-2013, 01:26 PM

You guys are hilarious. :popcorn2:

FETorino

11-24-2013, 02:41 PM

You guys are hilarious. :popcorn2:

Ron

You didn't expect a technical discussion with this crowd on this thread did you:headscratch:

Great seeing you at the Lat G party and at Optima. Sorry I missed Phx.

Time for some brake tech:topic:

Previously on the forum you had run some brake calculations for me that are now slightly out the window. As I progressed on my engine setback project I abandoned my swing pedals and dual master setup. Buried a few post back under the ribbing you can see I posted about it.

I purchased a set of floor pedals but as with all floor pedals their ratio is limited. They are 5.75 to 1 at best so using the 100lbs std driver force there is an obvious loss in clamping force.

My floor pedals have a .875 and .813 master cylinders. Intuitively I would think with the lower pedal ratio of 5.75 maybe I should be running the .813 master for the front and a .750 for the rear to raise the line pressure and achieve a total braking force closer to 4000.

I also understand we could achieve more braking force through the use of a higher COF pad.

Intuitively doesn't make for much of a scientific discussion so plugging in the master sizes and new pedal ratio into your chart would be the best starting point for a discussion.

I also understand that setting my overall suspension parameters, either tweener or high travel, will also dictate what brake bias 65/35 or 70/30 we are targeting.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/robsbrakes_zpsb19ff07b.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/robsbrakes_zpsb19ff07b.jpg.html)

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php4?p=495811&postcount=18

GregWeld

11-24-2013, 02:50 PM

Just to be sure Rob -- smaller bore MC makes MORE pressure not less -- so if you're going to want more front brake pressure (correct) than at the rears -- you'd want the smaller dia MC for the front brakes.

A larger MC bore will give "better" pedal feel but will make less pressure… sometimes this stuff comes down to driver preference - a modulated softer pedal feel vs a high hard pedal.

intocarss

11-24-2013, 02:55 PM

Remind me what size Kirkey I need to order for the passenger side.:D

KIRKEY #485001-W :guns: :gitrdun:

GregWeld

11-24-2013, 03:29 PM

KIRKEY #485001-W :guns: :gitrdun:

For about 12 grand you can buy one of those and get a tube chassis track machine tossed in!!

FETorino

11-24-2013, 03:38 PM

For about 12 grand you can buy one of those and get a tube chassis track machine tossed in!!

Yea if anyone on here was smart that's what they would do.:snapout:

:cheers:

intocarss

11-24-2013, 05:26 PM

For about 12 grand you can buy one of those and get a tube chassis track machine tossed in!!
That sounds like a plan. I can un bolt my seat and bring it with me for my ride along

Yea if anyone on here was smart that's what they would do.:snapout:

:cheers: :idea:

Lenie

11-24-2013, 05:44 PM

Rob, can you throw up a pic to remind me what this thread is about?:stirthepot:

Ron in SoCal

11-24-2013, 05:49 PM

Rob, can you throw up a pic to remind me what this thread is about?:stirthepot:

Seriously, was there a real update I missed?? :lol:

:cheers:

FETorino

11-24-2013, 05:59 PM

That sounds like a plan. I can un bolt my seat and bring it with me for my ride along

:idea:

:thumbsup: Sounds like a plan JD:thumbsup:

Rob, can you throw up a pic to remind me what this thread is about?:stirthepot:

It's all Torino and 360 some pounds of sideoiler. :D You either have one or aren't willing to admit you want one.:lmao:

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino699_zps9cc7a55d.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/torino699_zps9cc7a55d.jpg.html)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2344_zps25e15145.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2344_zps25e15145.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/news_zps7f2bc190.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/news_zps7f2bc190.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_1931_zps155d75b3.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_1931_zps155d75b3.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/T56_zps1900d614.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/T56_zps1900d614.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2387_zpsd355f5cb.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2387_zpsd355f5cb.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2032_zps3e54d430.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2032_zps3e54d430.jpg.html)

FETorino

11-24-2013, 06:00 PM

Seriously, was there a real update I missed?? :lol:

:cheers:

On Deadpool :headscratch: :headscratch:

:shakehead: Nope still deadpool of blood :stirthepot:

:cheers:

Ron in SoCal

11-24-2013, 06:07 PM

Well I don't recall the pic of that Torino article from 1950, so at least that's something new. :D

FETorino

11-24-2013, 06:29 PM

Well I don't recall the pic of that Torino article from 1950, so at least that's something new. :D

Spent 20 min with cardboard making a test fit pedalbox template.

That's new.:mock:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2397_zps6c5c1566.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2397_zps6c5c1566.jpg.html)

Ron in SoCal

11-24-2013, 06:35 PM

That took 20 minutes? (Prob took 20 minutes to get the cat to pose)

Wait, lemme start over:

You're posting a cardboard update? Where's Gordon!

:lol: :cheers:

intocarss

11-24-2013, 07:12 PM

Spent 20 min with cardboard making a test fit pedalbox template.

That's new.:mock:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2397_zps6c5c1566.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2397_zps6c5c1566.jpg.html):relax:

Sieg

11-24-2013, 07:30 PM

Looking good! Definitely like the setup. I'll assume there enough forward/aft adjustment to comfortably modulate the throttle under braking?

Rob Box FTW! :thumbsup:

Wissing72

11-24-2013, 08:33 PM

carbuff

11-24-2013, 08:42 PM

Nice photobomb! :)

So you will hopefully get a laugh out of this, but... I'm starting a new design project at work. In my field, we use some kind of theme when we name our projects. My company founder is from Detroit, so he thought a car-based theme would be fun, and I decided we'd go with old musclecar names. We recently changed the plan for the project to go away from a minimalist approach to one that is a bit more, shall I say, "maximalist". So it seemed like a perfect choice to use "Torino" as my first project name in the famliy! :)

I spend entirely too much time on this site apparently...

carbuff

11-24-2013, 08:49 PM

http://www.joesracing.com/images/detailed/Throttle_Illustration_LO-RES.jpg

Are you going to use the linkage and bellcrank from the picture above? Looks pretty slick, but I'm curious how you will mount it all if so...

FETorino

11-24-2013, 09:06 PM

Looking good! Definitely like the setup. I'll assume there enough forward/aft adjustment to comfortably modulate the throttle under braking?

Rob Box FTW! :thumbsup:

Between the brake and throttle pedals there are too many adjustments.:willy: It's funny how you take something like pedals for granted until you have to start from ground zero in setting them up.:faint:

The Joes pedal is pretty slick. It has adjustable stops in both directions and a garage door spring to snap it back. Of course the carb side of the equation will also get a Joes return spring setup.

I don't think the cat likes the "go" pedal...... :stirthepot: :mock:

He does seem to take issue with it for some reason. Both him and Flash.:headscratch:

Nice photobomb! :)

So you will hopefully get a laugh out of this, but... I'm starting a new design project at work. In my field, we use some kind of theme when we name our projects. My company founder is from Detroit, so he thought a car-based theme would be fun, and I decided we'd go with old musclecar names. We recently changed the plan for the project to go away from a minimalist approach to one that is a bit more, shall I say, "maximalist". So it seemed like a perfect choice to use "Torino" as my first project name in the famliy! :)

I spend entirely too much time on this site apparently...

:lmao: Well you succeeded :lmao:

http://www.joesracing.com/images/detailed/Throttle_Illustration_LO-RES.jpg

Are you going to use the linkage and bellcrank from the picture above? Looks pretty slick, but I'm curious how you will mount it all if so...

Bryan

Yes :thumbsup: I am planning on using the bellcrank assembly. I will have a full cage and an underdash bar so the bellcrank will likely mount to a flange on the underdash bar.
:cheers:

GregWeld

11-24-2013, 09:43 PM

We'll you certainly aren't going to be running out of real estate... So mount away there big boy! Ya got enough room in there to run a similar crank and whistles and knobs set up as used by the wizard in The Wizard of OZ...

GregWeld

11-24-2013, 09:51 PM

Spent 20 min with cardboard making a template

Maybe you should have spent 25.....

Lenie

11-25-2013, 12:21 AM

It's all Torino and 360 some pounds of sideoiler. :D You either have one or aren't willing to admit you want one.:lmao:

:cheers:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/torino699_zps9cc7a55d.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/torino699_zps9cc7a55d.jpg.html)
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Oddly enough the shakes are gone and I'm now feeling better!:tv_happy:

Lenie

11-25-2013, 12:25 AM

GregWeld

11-25-2013, 04:10 AM

Appears you have a few holes in your game plan!:D :unibrow:

Lenie -- When building a car of this - er - um - "caliber"…. you need to save weight where you can...

Panteracer

11-29-2013, 10:29 AM

FETorino

11-29-2013, 11:51 AM

Rob,
Met you Gw and few others at Sema... Black Pantera guy...
We briefly talked about your Torino and I had no idea
how many mods you have made to this car.. great build
Not sure how you even got this far with all the comments
you get from the peanut gallery.. I have been reading for
several days just to get caught up with you guys.. my wife
was wondering what the hell I have been doing.. I kept telling
her car stuff and she kept say yeah yeah

Keep at it and I hope to see it running soon although
I am not getting any younger so please hurry

I have to get back to my Firebird project that eats drivetrains
for breakfeast.. shaft rockers hopefully going in soon.. time to
get some seat time in it before Optima's Laguna event in March

Sounds like a great group of guys and Ron just fries my brain
Time to do some measuring on my cars to see how screwed up they
really are:)

Panteracer- Norcal Bob

Bob great to hear from you. Thanks for checking in:thumbsup:

When we met I had no idea I'd be swapping pedals so you weren't the only one who didn't realize the extent of the:superhack: :lmao:

Look you fit right in with the peanut gallery. already busting my chops about a timeline. :lmao:

It is a great group of people that I have been lucky to meet. Most of them have that Camaro issue they are dealing with, but other than that they are a great group. :stirthepot:

It will be cool to see your Firechicken up and running. I have a soft spot for those.

Ron is a wealth of information and a very gracious and helpful guy. I am hesitant to speak with him anymore because I always come away from the conversation wanting to change something.:lol: :bang: :lol:

I need to get back down to Brett's and finish the motor mounting project.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2403_zps2446987a.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2403_zps2446987a.jpg.html)

Hope you didn't put too many new stress cracks in the Pantera paint at Optima.

:cheers:

Sieg

11-29-2013, 12:34 PM

I have a soft spot for those.
:cheers:

:sieg: They're just Camaro's with feathers.

PS - It's tough to edit spelling and grammar errors for a guy trashing us Camaro owners.......but I honestly care about your image. :D

intocarss

11-29-2013, 02:06 PM

It is a great group of people that I have been lucky to meet. Most of them have that Camaro issue they are dealing with, but other than that they are a great group. :stirthepot:

:cheers: Owning a Camaro (OR any GM product) is not an issue...
It's an HONOR :trophy-1302:

fleetus macmullitz

11-29-2013, 02:38 PM

Owning a Camaro (OR any GM product) is not an issue...
It's an HONOR :trophy-1302:

:lol:

Jerdawg...FTW!

GregWeld

11-29-2013, 05:26 PM

I take just a little trip --- and Torinodude picks up another "friend"… OMG…

Bob --- Laguna Seca is a blast…. just having run it today for the first time! It will eat cars for lunch in a hurry! We had more cars off track and beat up here than all of the other track days I've done - COMBINED. It was raining wrecks out here today.

Anyway --- I wanted to jump in and say that while this thread might also be a wreck --- keep reading -- 'cause we wouldn't all jump him so badly if we didn't truly love him. (his Mother told me to say that. Apparently he calls her with a bit of a whine from time to time about his "thread" going sideways)

jarhead

11-29-2013, 06:05 PM

Torino guys dont get any love...:slingshot:

He did post a picture :thumbsup:

:popcorn2:

Panteracer

11-29-2013, 09:01 PM

Rob,
I did not really crack the Pantera any more at Optima
I had a blast at Optima and Sema
Wish I could have gone to the Lateral g evening
but my Pantera buddy showed up to help that night
at 8pm

I thought I would start out right away busting your chops
as I have a Firebird buddy constantly bugging me about the firechicken
and it is always the Pantera first.. hope to even that out this next year

I know what you are going through because everything you
buy for a Pantera does not fit or needs to be Modified... I cannot
tell you how many times I looked at the wiring and hoses trying
to figure out where to run and mount things.. it takes time and
for those doing it themselves I give them a lot of credit
In the Firebird I have moved the Alternator three times in the last
year... Our Pantera group visited Moals shop the last two years
and they had a build going and we all were trying to figure out
how the steering was going to get past the headers.. they said
they were working on it... so even the big boys have issues

As far as your car being a beast my Firebird weighed in at 3710 lbs
at the Goodguys event earlier this year.. I just changed out the rear
leafs to monoleaves- yes still running old school but lost 70 lbs.. need
to go after the hood, rear glass, get rid of the rear seats etc.. it
will take time but I need to get the weight down

I appreciate all of Rons advice on the handling issues
That is where I really want to learn how to tune a car
instead of just driving them after they are done.. It took a
long time to get the Pantera neutral but then just before Optima
I put shorter tires in the rear and taller in the front to get the 200 rating
That car has 245's in front and 315's out back so your stagger is nothing
Talk about messing with the geometry

Greg Weld... I was going to go to Laguna today but I had date night
at the Sharks tank with my wife.. it was supposed to be tonight but
someone scheduled the game for 1pm today and I could not get them to change it:)... so I was stuck
I used to run with the Norcal Shelby guys a lot when I had my mustang
but now run with Checkered flag more.. less cars on track and less
guys bending things up.. Norcal has had a lot of wrecks lately but a
great group of guys and very fast

Finally I hate to say I am still a closet Camero guy.. I had a 69 z28 when
I was a kid and bought a 69 shell a few years back thinking I was going
to build a Pt car.. it sat for 5 years with no work on it so I sold it and
went back to working on the Firebird.. love that car as it was a $300
piece of crap 23 years ago. it has won a lot of events and evolved over
the years but eats motors- #9 in it now:)

I will stay active here as like a few have said we like to see something
different.. love the stance on your car..
Wondering how low is the bellhousing?.. I just raised the firebird up
1 1/2" because I only had 1 1/2" clearence on the dougs 3 1/2" collectors
What really scared me was the bellhousing was slightly lower than the headers that would scrape on the ground 2-3 times when I took it for a spin

Panteracer- Norcal Bob

FETorino

11-30-2013, 11:11 PM

I will stay active here as like a few have said we like to see something
different.. love the stance on your car..
Wondering how low is the bellhousing?.. I just raised the firebird up
1 1/2" because I only had 1 1/2" clearence on the dougs 3 1/2" collectors
What really scared me was the bellhousing was slightly lower than the headers that would scrape on the ground 2-3 times when I took it for a spin

Panteracer- Norcal Bob

Bob

As of this afternoon the Quicktime is now exactly the same height as the frame rails from the ground. :unibrow:

Nothing will be lower than the frame rails.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2411_zps5d449deb.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2411_zps5d449deb.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2410_zpsd98bbe16.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2410_zpsd98bbe16.jpg.html)

:cheers:

Panteracer

12-01-2013, 09:47 AM

Rob
Never thought of that one
My QuickTime may get the same Surgery
Now the damn headers still hang way too low
Might have to get a set made that tuck up

Panteracer NorCal Bob

INTMD8

12-01-2013, 10:54 AM

Bob

As of this afternoon the Quicktime is now exactly the same height as the frame rails from the ground. :unibrow:

Nothing will be lower than the frame rails.

You aren't making it easier to build headers! What size primaries, 2"?

fleetus macmullitz

12-01-2013, 11:15 AM

Nice slicing Rob. :thumbsup:

Reminds me of the Bass-O-Matic's slicing power.

http://blog.silver-peak.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/bassomatic-new.jpg

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intocarss

12-01-2013, 06:08 PM

^^^^ Cosmo going old school :flag2:

Panteracer

12-01-2013, 06:24 PM

So wondering about your dry sump
I help my buddy with his Can Am car
and we heat the oil for 20 minutes before
we start it. So you have a smaller tank
Like the LS motors??? Not sure how it works
with a street car??

Panteracer. NorCal Bob

FETorino

12-01-2013, 08:33 PM

You aren't making it easier to build headers! What size primaries, 2"?

Jim You know nothing on these cars is easy.:faint: 2"/2.25 stepped primaries. I guarantee they will not be one piece units.

Nice slicing Rob. :thumbsup:

Reminds me of the Bass-O-Matic's slicing power.

Were you at the shop watching me cut it. :headscratch: Cuz you are probably spot on with that clip.

So wondering about your dry sump
I help my buddy with his Can Am car
and we heat the oil for 20 minutes before
we start it. So you have a smaller tank
Like the LS motors??? Not sure how it works
with a street car??

Panteracer. NorCal Bob

Bob

My tank is a used Peterson ALMS unit, 4 gallon capacity. Here is one of GWs favorite blurry photos of it.:_paranoid

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/ALMStank.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/ALMStank.jpg.html)

On the dyno 12 quarts got the oil level where we wanted it. In the car the lines will be longer so I'm sure I'll be adding a quart or more.

You can start it without pre heating. Warm up time with 12+ quarts of oil may be a little while. I'm going to run a C&R radiator with a heat exchanger for the oil. We'll see what the morning warm up time is like without pre heating. I will have a heat probe in the tank and will add an external heat band if needed.

So as of now I don't know any more about the oil warm up than you.:lol:
:cheers:

Lenie

12-01-2013, 10:08 PM

Bob

As of this afternoon the Quicktime is now exactly the same height as the frame rails from the ground. :unibrow:

Nothing will be lower than the frame rails.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2411_zps5d449deb.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2411_zps5d449deb.jpg.html)

:cheers:

Been there done that!:unibrow:

Ron Sutton

12-02-2013, 08:58 AM

Ron is a wealth of information and a very gracious and helpful guy. I am hesitant to speak with him anymore because I always come away from the conversation wanting to change something.:lol: :bang: :lol:

That will teach you ! :lmao:

.

Ron Sutton

12-02-2013, 09:02 AM

Ron Sutton

12-02-2013, 09:51 AM

Hey Guys,

Rob & I already discussed this on the phone, but I figured I'd catch up the details for anyone following along.

Ron

You didn't expect a technical discussion with this crowd on this thread did you:headscratch:
No ... not in my wildest dreams. :)

Great seeing you at the Lat G party and at Optima. Sorry I missed Phx.
It was great meeting you and a lot of guys on from Lat G. The party was fun.
Even my racing buddy Randy that tagged along had fun.

Time for some brake tech:topic:

Previously on the forum you had run some brake calculations for me that are now slightly out the window. As I progressed on my engine setback project I abandoned my swing pedals and dual master setup. Buried a few post back under the ribbing you can see I posted about it.

I purchased a set of floor pedals but as with all floor pedals their ratio is limited. They are 5.75 to 1 at best so using the 100lbs std driver force there is an obvious loss in clamping force.

My floor pedals have a .875 and .813 master cylinders. Intuitively I would think with the lower pedal ratio of 5.75 maybe I should be running the .813 master for the front and a .750 for the rear to raise the line pressure and achieve a total braking force closer to 4000.

I also understand we could achieve more braking force through the use of a higher COF pad.

Intuitively doesn't make for much of a scientific discussion so plugging in the master sizes and new pedal ratio into your chart would be the best starting point for a discussion.

I also understand that setting my overall suspension parameters, either tweener or high travel, will also dictate what brake bias 65/35 or 70/30 we are targeting.

Based on the front suspension travel I think you'll end up with, you will probably need around 70% front braking.

The cool thing with adjustable bias in the pedals is you can fine tune the bias to perfection without giving up any total braking force. (Unlike a proportioning valve which reduces braking force).

Changing from the planned 6-1 pedal ratio to 5.75-1 is a small change. Only a 4% reduction in fact. That does not dictate a MC change, as that would produce a much larger increase, of about 16%.

As you can see from my calcs below, dropping 1 step on both M/Cs puts it over 4000# of braking force, which in my experience is too much braking force for a mid-to-high travel suspension strategy. I think you'll find 3562# is plenty of braking force.

------------------------------------------------------

On another note, I do these calcs based on 100# of leg force at the pedal. In the racing world, we "tune & adjust" braking to fit the driver all the time. 100# is just a starting baseline #.

For smaller drivers ... I have raced cars with champion female drivers that weighed 100# and male drivers as young as 12 that weighed 72# ... I designed a brake package that decreased the amount of leg force required.

We don't want the pedal to be too hard to push, or you wear the driver out over long races ... and you don't want it to be too easy to push ... making it too easy to lock up the brakes. In then end, it's all about tailoring it to the driver.

For those of you who haven't met Rob, he's a big fella. So Rob, I'm thinking you pushing the brake pedal with 100# of force will be easy. I feel we need to be concerned that we don't make the brakes too easy for you to lock up.

Let's start with what I originally outlined but with the 5.75-1 pedals ... making 3562# total braking at 100# of leg pressure ... and see how the braking characteristics fit you. We'll "tune & adjust" to your tastes after you and the car get up to speed. :cheers:

Panteracer

12-02-2013, 10:28 AM

Rob,
I think if you only have 12-13 quarts with the heat
exchanger you should be ok.. My pantera has 10 quarts
and my water to oil cooler actually helps warm things
up fairly quickly.. I was worried about it when I autocrossed
it a few times as oil temp does not get that hot on
your first runs.. but the gauge told me it works

Panteracer Norcal Bob

Sieg

12-02-2013, 10:36 AM

This is getting way too complicated!

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab64/jolimont/FredFlinstoneBraking1.jpg

Panteracer

12-02-2013, 12:24 PM

Sieg

12-02-2013, 07:13 PM

Sieg,
I agree.. I remember when all I had to remember
was the + and the - for the coil.. now with all the
plumbing, wiring, pumps,relays etc what a pain and
I don't even have fuel injection.. don't get me
started on that issue

I miss simple

Panteracer Norcal Bob

Does it have fuel and what's the track record! LOL

That was a totally sarcastic picture!

I absolutely love what Ron is contributing to those who want to learn what it really takes to make a car work right.......and beyond just throwing money at the project. Tweaking stock pick up points and modifying stock parts can return similar performance in many cases and leave people :headscratch: Think Smokey Yunick :D Personally I really like that approach.

Back in my desert racing days I remember getting beat by guy's that were on what appeared to be an identical bike to mine and wondering wtf!? That was before I really had an understanding (clue) of suspension set-up and valving modifications. I rode a fellow competitor's bike one day and a migraine inducing light came on......He's Cheating!.....oh wait there's no rule class against those mods. :sieg:

Sieg

12-02-2013, 07:32 PM

http://www.carcraft.com/editorial/1312_wtf_wheres_the_fun_december_2013/photo_01.html

:underchair:

GregWeld

12-02-2013, 07:35 PM

Reminds me of high school --- one guy puts a too big four barrel on his otherwise stock POS…

I'd tweak the curve on my distributor -- and cream 'em…. and they're then all talking about buying headers…. In the meantime their stock cam and too big four barrel didn't need it…

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Sometimes the guys on a "budget" do more with less and leave the high priced parts guys in the dust.

INTMD8

12-02-2013, 07:46 PM

http://www.carcraft.com/editorial/1312_wtf_wheres_the_fun_december_2013/photo_01.html

:underchair:

Hmm, check out the rock like substance in the water jackets. Maybe it's so old it has petrified?

FETorino

12-02-2013, 11:18 PM

My quicktime bellhousing is cut the same. Did it in the mill.

Yea me too:rolleyes: Well maybe it was a Makita and a cut off wheel. :)

Hey Guys,

Rob & I already discussed this on the phone, but I figured I'd catch up the details for anyone following along.

Let's start with what I originally outlined but with the 5.75-1 pedals ... making 3562# total braking at 100# of leg pressure ... and see how the braking characteristics fit you. We'll "tune & adjust" to your tastes after you and the car get up to speed. :cheers:

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Thanks Ron. It is a great benefit for anyone contemplating setting up any part of their car for you to weigh in on the reasons for making specific choices. I really enjoy the technical explanations of why.:idea:

Rob,
I think if you only have 12-13 quarts with the heat
exchanger you should be ok.. My pantera has 10 quarts
and my water to oil cooler actually helps warm things
up fairly quickly.. I was worried about it when I autocrossed
it a few times as oil temp does not get that hot on
your first runs.. but the gauge told me it works

Panteracer Norcal Bob

Real world testing will answer that question for sure. I can't wait to find out.

http://www.carcraft.com/editorial/1312_wtf_wheres_the_fun_december_2013/photo_01.html

:underchair:

:twak: Rude :twak: Rude :twak:

You should know better Sieg :buttkick: :lol:

Hmm, check out the rock like substance in the water jackets. Maybe it's so old it has petrified?

Don't you have a 54 year old 390 to finish. :mock:

Yea low budget drag racer filling the bottom half of the blocks water passages with concrete to strengthen it. I wonder how much hp he was putting down for those 350 passes before it grenaded.

At least it went out in style.:wow:

:cheers:

GregWeld

12-03-2013, 06:24 AM

I push on the brake pedal --- if I need more brakes… I push harder or for longer… if I push too much they lock up.

That's a simple "leg bias" system I've developed.

FETorino

12-07-2013, 11:56 AM

Back to work moving things down and back.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2418_zpseec3b28d.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2418_zpseec3b28d.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2420_zps702cd71c.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2420_zps702cd71c.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2421_zps6efe18d2.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2421_zps6efe18d2.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2430_zps2787ed9c.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2430_zps2787ed9c.jpg.html)http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2439_zpsbb97c60d.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2439_zpsbb97c60d.jpg.html)

jarhead

12-07-2013, 12:36 PM

i am crying elephant tears...:confused59:
Please ship to 80524

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2420_zps702cd71c.jpg

FETorino

12-07-2013, 03:52 PM

i am crying elephant tears...:confused59:
Please ship to 80524

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2420_zps702cd71c.jpg

No Joe you can't have it. :guns:

It will eventually be welded back in now that the motor and transmission has been moved back 7.5".:D

I have the stock tunnel cross brace I drilled the spot welds out of and removed if you want one of those.

Does it make more sense now, why, it temporarily came out?

:cheers:

jarhead

12-07-2013, 04:15 PM

I figured you had a reason to :superhack: the beautiful RS work :gitrdun:

Flash68

12-07-2013, 09:30 PM

too much progress... slow down would ya? :sieg:

DaleTx

12-07-2013, 09:43 PM

too much progress... slow down would ya? :sieg:

Yeah... and the pictures are a little bit to crisp and focused... maybe next time cover the lens part way with you finger!

Seriously... the work on the tunnel is looking good :thumbsup:

INTMD8

12-08-2013, 10:59 AM

It will eventually be welded back in now that the motor and transmission has been moved back 7.5".:D

How is engine placement in relation to front wheel centerline now?

FETorino

12-08-2013, 11:08 AM

How is engine placement in relation to front wheel centerline now?

This gives you a good idea. The balancer is behind the rack and the front of the block is at or just behind the front axle.:D

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/IMG_2440_zpse8e162a2.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/IMG_2440_zpse8e162a2.jpg.html)

Ron in SoCal

12-08-2013, 12:49 PM

This gives you a good idea. The balancer is behind the rack and the front of the block is at or just behind the front axle.:D

You have front axles? Man I gotta get over to the shop and see this!

:lol: :cheers:

intocarss

12-08-2013, 01:22 PM

I thought you were running dual quads??

FETorino

12-08-2013, 02:53 PM

You have front axles? Man I gotta get over to the shop and see this!

:lol: :cheers:

OK fact checker you know what I mean. :twak:

It's like referring to the KPI, King Pin Inclination of your spindle when you don't have a Kingpin.:mock:

You can still find reference to portions of a spindle as an axle :lmao: :lol: :lmao:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/stubaxle_zpsd986f2d4.gif (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/stubaxle_zpsd986f2d4.gif.html)

I thought you were running dual quads??

JerDog. Eventually.

I ran both setups on the dyno. My 701hp on E85 was made with a single 4150.

Back to back on Gas the first weekend on the dyno we got close to 25hp more with the dual quad over a single Dominator and about 35hp more than the single 4150. I don't own, or have access to a pair to borrow, of properly set up dual E85 carbs so I don't know what the E85 single vs dual quad hp difference would be. I'm sure the duals would also make more hp on E85. The intake is just a better overall design.

One day when the bleeding of $$ slows I'll build a matched set of E85s for the dual quad and it will go on the car. Just for the cool factor if nothing else. For now I'm just running my single 4150.

:cheers:
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/duals_zps1ec06523.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/duals_zps1ec06523.jpg.html)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/duals2_zps7b22f07b.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/duals2_zps7b22f07b.jpg.html)