2nd Chance Camaro - Let the Project Begin [Archive]

syborg tt

01-13-2011, 01:13 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Let the Project Beginhttp://garagescene.net/upload/2011/04/20/20110420102535-901ef0aa.jpg

Let the Project Begin
Posted: Jan 13, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

After some time off I've decided to jump back into it full steam ahead and not look back. Carter Hickman (http://www.carterhickmandesigns.com/) and I have been talking about this car for over 2 years now and it's finally time that I start sharing the pictures and the build up of what should be a pretty cool car. The goal with this car is to build a car that anyone can build but of course put all of my little idea's into that will set it apart from the crowd.

My goal is to teach you what I have learned from my last build www.syborgtwinturbo.com and show you how to save money or in some instances and spend more just because you "need " to have the coolest parts on the planet.

The platform for the this build is of course a 1970 Camaro. Why because parts are readily available and that is important if your building on a budget. The goal would be to find the cleanest car you can find and one that needs the least amount of body work. That being said Ron Wilson from www.hoodpins.net helped me find this little gem in California. He has had a long history with the car and it seems like a pretty solid car.

more to come.....

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2011/04/20/20110420102534-e8adf8da-me.jpg

Since Ron new the last two owners they were able to dig up some pictures of the car from what we think was the early 90's.

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Please remember this under hood shoot.

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DOOM

01-13-2011, 01:25 PM

Good now come get this rotisserie out of my shop! Oh and this LS motor to..:D

Roadster Shop

01-13-2011, 01:45 PM

http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/57530-1/1992+70+Camaro+Doug+Carr+_01_.jpg

Marty, cool project and the rendering looks great... but do you have any info on the white 80's Toyota Tercell in the background? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry man, didn't mean to thread jack, I couldn't resist the shot though!

youthpastor

01-13-2011, 01:47 PM

Marty, cool project and the rendering looks great... but do you have any info on the white 80's Toyota Tercell in the background? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry man, didn't mean to thread jack, I couldn't resist the shot though!

that's funny:D -

skatinjay27

01-13-2011, 02:02 PM

formula98

01-13-2011, 02:07 PM

Rybar

01-13-2011, 03:39 PM

Nice build, but you post a build thread and no specs or plans for the car?? C'mon Marty your killing us here :lol:

youthpastor

01-13-2011, 03:55 PM

Nice build, but you post a build thread and no specs or plans for the car?? C'mon Marty your killing us here :lol:

I'm just blown away there is only a handful of pics this far- your slippin Marty!-

coolwelder62

01-13-2011, 04:16 PM

Marty, cool project.Scott need's to start a 2nd.gen only section.Can't wait to see more.:thumbsup: Scott

tones2SS

01-13-2011, 04:18 PM

Very nice Marty. Just saw this on pro-touring as well. Will be looking for updates. Should be a killer build.:thumbsup:

96z28ss

01-13-2011, 05:07 PM

He likes to drag stuff out.
Its probably already in paint.

HWY Nova

01-13-2011, 06:02 PM

He likes to drag stuff out.
Its probably already in paint.

Ouch............

--Eric

syborg tt

01-13-2011, 06:17 PM

Not to worry build specs and plenty of pics to come.

Vegas69

01-13-2011, 06:24 PM

Are you actually going to drive this one to Dairy Queen for an ice cream cone or sell it first?:rofl:

syborg tt

01-13-2011, 06:26 PM

Are you actually going to drive this one to Dairy Queen for an ice cream cone or sell it first?:rofl:

man i am really going to try ot keep this one. However is the money is right then I will leave you with this, "Momma didn't raise no fool"

but I do love my DQ

RECOVERY ROOM

01-13-2011, 07:46 PM

He likes to drag stuff out.
Its probably already in paint.

No, KD is done and I'm already working on it....:rofl:

syborg tt

01-13-2011, 08:13 PM

sick65

01-13-2011, 08:46 PM

No, KD is done and I'm already working on it....:rofl:

Will this be a "mullet" based interior? Don't forget the 8-track. lol

Cris@JCG

01-14-2011, 07:34 AM

It looks like it is going to be a great project marty! I like that you are running a non RS front nose with the full bumper.. Doing that also on my 2nd gen..

kennyd

01-14-2011, 08:13 AM

No, KD is done and I'm already working on it....:rofl:

i have not started yet , but i will be working on it .

70rs

01-14-2011, 12:38 PM

Well it's about time you posted something on this Marty.
I'm looking forward to seeing this come together.

syborg tt

01-14-2011, 12:50 PM

It looks like it is going to be a great project marty! I like that you are running a non RS front nose with the full bumper.. Doing that also on my 2nd gen..

Keep me in mind if your willing to share any of the cool 2nd gen parts your developing.

toddshotrods

01-14-2011, 02:03 PM

Sweet project. I'm looking forward to watching it come together.

This takes me back. My 18th birthday/graduation present was a 70 Camaro that looked just like this (minus the rear spoiler, and in an ugly school bus shade of yellow)!
http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/57530-1/1992+70+Camaro+Doug+Carr+_01_.jpg

nvr2fst

01-14-2011, 06:50 PM

Well it's about time you posted something on this Marty.
I'm looking forward to seeing this come together.

Yea its about time

protour73

01-15-2011, 03:55 AM

Holy crap Marty, you FINALLY started this darn build thread!!! This Camaro was a great choice, because it is pretty damn clean. NOTHING was rusted together on this car, I was amazed!!! It was a lot of fun helping out with the beginning of the disassembly of this project. I can't wait until you get to the point where all of the shiney stuff starts to goes on.

This is going to be one of my favorite builds, another 2nd Gen gets a new life!!! Carter's rendering is pretty sick too!!

Call me, I'm always available to help you out (as long as we can have lunch at that awesome Taco joint!!!) :thumbsup:

(pssst, post some more pics)

syborg tt

01-15-2011, 06:35 AM

Call me, I'm always available to help you out (as long as we can have lunch at that awesome Taco joint!!!) :thumbsup:

(pssst, post some more pics)

I am heading to the garage right now

protour73

01-15-2011, 05:29 PM

I am heading to the garage right nowdamn, give me some warning!! :D

syborg tt

01-20-2011, 09:17 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Finding the Right Camaro

Finding the Right Camaro
Posted: Jan 19, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Looking back at old pictures is always fun. What is really cool is when you fast forward 18 years and some things
haven't changed. This is true for the 70 Camaro Ron from www.hoodpins.net was able to locate for me. I know in the
last pictures the car was cream in color and this picture it's blue. Shortly after Doug (2nd owner) brought the car home
he repainted it and swapped in a 383 Stroker motor. Here is a picture of the car after he repainted it looks pretty good.

picture from 1992

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A quick call to Jam'e at Browns Auto Transport (http://www.brownsautotransport.com/) and the pick was scheduled.

Like I previous said some things never change. Eighteen years later and here is what the car looked like getting ready to get loaded on a trailer and make it way back to the Midwest. First thing I thought of when I saw this picture was I really need to go rent the movie "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" again. Hey, it's a cult classic ....

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48 Hours later and the great people from Browns Auto Transport (http://www.brownsautotransport.com/)showed up at my work to deliver the car. The drivers first comment to me was, "man is the floor in this car solid."

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Not much has changed under this car from the day it was delivered and that was exactly what I was looking for. It does however
have a really nice 3" dual Exhaust. Anyone need a complete dual exhaust & headers for a small block 2nd gen.

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Brought the car home - Opps forget to tell the wife. Remember it's easier to ask for forgiveness then permission.

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Looks like I have to pick which one I am going to work on first. One option would be sell Ron the Green one and I build the blue one with Kenny. Should be fun and Interesting.

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So what are the build plans -- you ask. What is it going to look like when it's complete? You are going to have to watch this
build closely and you will find out. At least you can tell that it will have Billet Specialties wheels on it.

Here is the last and final rendering that Carter from Carter Hickman Design (http://www.carterhickmandesigns.com/wordpress/)did for me & Kenny (http://www.kdhotrods.com).

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204257-dd021d8a-me.jpg

I can tell you this car is going to have the new Ride Tech (http://ridetech.com/)Coil Over Suspension on it and it's pretty awesome.

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tones2SS

01-20-2011, 09:48 AM

Wow. Very nice Marty.
Should be killer.:yes:

coolwelder62

01-20-2011, 10:42 AM

Really looking forward to seeing this car come togather.:thumbsup:Scott

66LS7

01-20-2011, 11:31 AM

Looks like it's going to be another awesome 2nd gen:thumbsup:

waynieZ

01-20-2011, 11:36 AM

Now you have two nice Camaros. Looks like a nice project.

radrambler

01-20-2011, 03:10 PM

Marty
Nice looking project(s)...lol :thumbsup:
money burning a hole in the pocket... 2 camaros ..forgiveness..:rofl:
Im sure it will be super nice and not take 5 years...

Tom

syborg tt

01-20-2011, 09:04 PM

Now you have two nice Camaros. Looks like a nice project.

actually 3

ZL575 Transformer Edtion Bumble Bee is the 3rd

syborg tt

02-10-2011, 09:06 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - The Teardown has finally started [RIGHT]

The Teardown has finally started
Posted: Feb 09, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

In order to keep the back half of my garage heated a couple years ago I installed a Curtain Wall. This has probably been one of the best "Garage" investments I have made to date. Especially when my wife starts the cars in the front half of the garage and leave's the door open for 15 minutes. The back half stays nice and warm. I may even install an Air conditioning unit this summer.

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When I am in the garage working on the car or one of the bikes hanging from the ceiling I slide the curtain to the side and I am back to an 800 square foot garage.

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Couple pictures of the interior before the tear down.

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Little help from my nephew Jake.

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Quick look at the Engine Bay.

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This is one of those special hood adjusters

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Found a couple bare wires under the hood.

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When Jake removed the battery tray we founds some rust. Looks like I will need a new inner fender.

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Hey Big Al - does this shirt look familiar.

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I've never liked Alarm Systems so may wires and they still steal the car.

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Temporary starter switch.

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The floors look great can't wait to see what the rest of the car looks like.

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syborg tt

02-10-2011, 09:07 AM

and here is what's left after a long night working in the garage.

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The seats look to be recently recovered.

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I've been collecting parts for the last couple years. Last year my good friend Morgan introduced me to John & Josh. Josh owns Precision billet concepts and he built these pedals for 2nd gen Camaro's and Firebirds. When I saw them I fell in love and just had to have the full set up. From E-Brake to Gas pedal I even purchased the clutch master just in case I end up installing a manual transmission.

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Ron in SoCal

02-10-2011, 09:58 AM

Wow wow wow. Floors look like a little clean up and you're good!

Love those pedals and master, btw....:thumbsup:

96z28ss

02-10-2011, 10:08 AM

You got lucky to get those pedals. I ordered a set and after 8 weeks I canceled my order. I don't think they are around anymore.

coolwelder62

02-10-2011, 04:19 PM

Marty,Look's like your going to have an awesome 2nd.gen build:thumbsup: Scott

bonecrrusher

02-12-2011, 05:40 PM

That garage looks familiar - is there a garage build thread around here for that?

That curtain looks VERY familiar...

waynieZ

02-12-2011, 08:02 PM

Three Camaro's! Ok now I'm really really jelous. If the rest of the car is like that floor your all set. Those pedals look awesome.

syborg tt

02-12-2011, 09:09 PM

That garage looks familiar - is there a garage build thread around here for that?

That curtain looks VERY familiar...

wow - here is the link and here is a picture of the old Curtain Wall

http://syborgtwinturbo.com/pictures/galleries/Garage/2007_01_20_001.jpg

89 RS

02-12-2011, 10:10 PM

Going to be a sweet Camaro man. I wish I had your garage, you got some space there. Pretty cool seeing those old pics of the Camaro, can't wait to see more progress pics.

protour73

02-13-2011, 04:41 AM

great pics Marty, But I KNOW there are more, come on, quit holding out!!!! :unibrow:

HWY Nova

04-14-2011, 09:15 AM

Marty,

HELLO!!!!??!! What's goin on???

--Eric

GregWeld

04-14-2011, 05:59 PM

Dude! Get off your bike and start posted up some REAL work!
:lol: :cheers:

DOOM

04-16-2011, 05:52 AM

Dude! Get off your bike and start posted up some REAL work!
:lol: :cheers:

I agree Greg!! I don't know whats with this guy.....:D

syborg tt

04-16-2011, 05:39 PM

Dude! Get off your bike and start posted up some REAL work!
:lol: :cheers:

okay okay i will post a few updates this week

syborg tt

04-27-2011, 11:30 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Removing the Front Clip & Exhaust

Removing the Front Clip & Exhaust
Posted: April 26, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Okay it's time to start posting some pictures.

Since safety is a big concern for me. The first thing I did was make a quick call to Race Ramps. I ordered up a set of 12" fixed height wheel cribs and an adjustable set of 12" wheel cribs. It's amazing how nice these cribs are.

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With the car on the wheel cribs I was able to get under the car and inspect the floors and work out a game plan. The first thing I need to do was remove the exhaust as I had already sold it and then start looking for rust problems.

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Scott (proTour73) was kind enough to come over and lend me a helping hand. He said it brought back memories of his restoration. Scott had the front end off in no time. I think he was hungry and I told him I was buying lunch at the local Mexican Restaurant so he worked really fast.

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Found some rust. Time to see if I can find some NOS sheet metal.

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You can see that Scott had the front clip completely removed before I figured out how to get the exhaust off in one piece. It almost made it up and over the rear differential. Sadly I had to remove it so I could get the exhaust out. Not a big deal as all of the bolts came off with ease.

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After a good days hard work this is what we ended up with. Not bad for 2 guys in 4 hours and that included lunch.

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Fuel Injected Media - Revolution Industries, www.rev-in.com
www.kdhotrods.com www.recoveryroominteriors.com www.carterhickmandesigns.com www.ridetech.com www.edelbrock.com
www.autometer.com www.bowlertransmissions.com www.billetspecialties.com www.kore3.com www.americanautowire.com
www.afcoracing.com www.techflex.com www.designengineering.com www.quickclips.org www.mikenorrismotorsports.com
www.hoodpins.net www.goodmarkindustries.com www.twistmachine.com www.kicker.com www.modoinnovations.com
www.cascadeaudio.com www.wmcdesigns.com www.seatbeltplanet.com www.precisionbilletconcepts.com
www.crossmembers.com www.protekpowdercoating.com US Collision & Autobody

DOOM

04-27-2011, 02:25 PM

Man I feel sorry for the guy that has to work on this rust bucket...:_paranoid

protour73

04-27-2011, 05:19 PM

Man I feel sorry for the guy that has to work on this rust bucket...:_paranoidWhat do you mean, Mario? Marty said it's a rust free car LOL :unibrow:

DOOM

04-27-2011, 05:44 PM

What do you mean, Mario? Marty said it's a rust free car LOL :unibrow:

Scott he got all that rust for free N/C...!!!: You no I have to give Marty a little grief...;)

tones2SS

04-27-2011, 05:50 PM

Very nice. Scott is going to town on that car Marty!:thumbsup:
He deserves 2 lunches!:unibrow:

syborg tt

05-13-2011, 12:42 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Let the Project Begin[RIGHT]

Let the Project Begin
Engine & Transmission Removal -/- G-Force Crossmember
Posted: May 13, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Happy Friday the 13th to all of my friends

Since the rear differential had to be removed so we could remove the exhaust. I figured I would install a set of 3" lowering block so I could get an idea as to how low the car was going to be once I installed the new Ride-Tech suspension.

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This is exactly the height I am looking for with the car. Low enough to look cool and still plenty of clearance to be able to be driven on the streets near me.

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Reference picture - Lets see how old my girls are when I finish this project. Anyone want to make bets as to how old they will be once I finish this project !!!

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Not only did she win Young Author for the entire 4th grade she is not afraid to get under the car and drain the fluids.

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Engine removed and even sold to Ron. Ron ( www.hoodpins.net ) is going to put it in his 70 Z28 project ( www.camarorsx.com ).

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Ron this picture is for you. Yes, my floor actually gets dirty.

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All done for the day and cleaned up time to ride the Bike.

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A couple years ago I had the pleasure to meet Stacy David (( http://gearztv.com/ )). Talk about a down to earth nice guy. I had just watched his show and they introduced a new product from G-Froce Crossmember www.crossmembers.com . He said it was a super nice product and I should look them up on my next project. So I took his advise and I called the Guys at G-Force crossmembers. I told them about my project and they said they had a crossmember that would work perfectly.

One week later this crossmember showed up at my shop.

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This special modified crossmember is perfect and talk about hugging floor and offering perfect ground clearence.

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I can't wait to show you guys pictures of the crossmember under the car.

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waynieZ

05-13-2011, 05:56 PM

You've got a good little helper there, and a nice start to your project.

65 347

05-18-2011, 04:17 PM

The camaro looks pretty clean. Cool little helper you have. Good luck with the build.

HWY Nova

05-19-2011, 08:43 AM

Engine removed and even sold to Ron. Ron ( www.hoodpins.net ) is going to put it in his 70 Z28 project ( www.camarorsx.com ).

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Wait a minute!.... I thought the Camaro RSX was your project??!?!?!

--Eric

jy211

05-19-2011, 09:38 AM

- Lets see how old my girls are when I finish this project. Anyone want to make bets as to how old they will be once I finish this project !!!Pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net

This will make a awesome first car for one of them :D

syborg tt

05-19-2011, 12:30 PM

Wait a minute!.... I thought the Camaro RSX was your project??!?!?!

--Eric

Ron bought the green camaro for me and the domain and his plans are to to build it.

I went the another direction and planned 2nd Chance with Carter. Both of my daughter want this car so the one that helps me more get's to Drive her boyfriend to Prom.

syborg tt

05-25-2011, 11:36 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Cleaning & more Cleaning & New LS1
Cleaning & more Cleaning & New LS1
Posted: May 25, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

Since I am not a big fan of a dirty work shop it was important to me to get the chassis as clean as I could. Before I began mocking up parts on the car. I spent a few hours with my daughters cleaning all of the oil & grime off the subframe. Seems they are more then willing to spray a cleaner on the car, but not so willing to scrub the grime off the car.

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I stripped as many parts as I could off the subframe before the cleaning actually started.

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Safety Safety Safety. I can't tell you how much I like the Race Ramp safety block they built for me. Gives you a little more confidence when your working on the car in the garage by yourself. I surely don't want any of my family members to every find me stuck or godd forbid dead under my car.

I removed the drives side coil spring without any problems. However, next time I am going to just cut the coil springs instead of using a spring compressor. My wonderful Snap On spring compressor actually broke when I was removing the passenger side coil spring and of course I was straddling the spindle when it let go. Talk about scaring the crap out of me.

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No Reason for this picture other then the floating wrench.

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The previous owner was unable to figure out why the car wouldn't start. I have a good guess as to why it wouldn't start. When the motor mount broke it also took out the fuel line.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204154-0cab5b1f-me.jpg

Finally ready for cleaning.

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Engine degreaser and a some good old elbow grease.

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All done and ready to play with some new Parts.

When I took out the old shims I put them back in the same location. It's a good place to start with the alignment.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204211-1791d89f-me.jpg

More parts to pack up and take to my warehouse. I am running out of space in my garage.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204215-53d865d1-me.jpg

Time to open up some of my Christmas Presents.

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Passenger arms went on smooth as butter. I would have worked on the other side but the guys were going for a ride so off to the trails I go.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204225-5a9b7b93-me.jpg

I spoke with Travis ( Kenny Davis Hot Rods ) and he told me he had an LS1 sitting in the shop and I could buy it. So I bought it and two weeks later it was in my warehouse with all of my other parts.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220203853-99e99767-me.jpg

The motor has about 9,000 miles on it and should be perfect for this build.
Anyone need a set of Z06 Exhaust Manifolds

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220203857-89772205-me.jpg

pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net

syborg tt

05-25-2011, 11:37 AM

and I found another thing my daughters like to do.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204106-cfbfcf90-me.jpg

Yep they painted the transmission housing.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204110-0982f90b-me.jpg

As I said is past posts. I've been collecting parts for this car for years. I pick up this intake from Barry Grant he had

listed it on lateral-g.net and I new I was going to need one for my next build.

So on the shelf it went.

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http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220203848-f4819cf2-me.jpg

GregWeld

05-25-2011, 12:37 PM

syborg tt

05-25-2011, 01:04 PM

Nobody cleans a sub frame anymore -- BUY NEW! :rofl: :cheers: :woot:

Love it that the girls are helping!

My daughter was always out there with me -- #1 Son could have cared less. Must be bad DNA.:woot:

Nope not going down that road again. My goal is to show people that you can do all of these modification to your car and have a great driving car and not take you car off the road for more then a weekend.

However the car is going to be stripped to bare metal which is something that most people won't do.

tones2SS

05-25-2011, 06:13 PM

Great updates Marty. Looks like some great progress there.:thumbsup:
Very cool that your daughters are helping you.

waynieZ

05-26-2011, 12:03 PM

The trans looks good. They did a great job.

syborg tt

06-20-2011, 04:50 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Billet 2nd Gen Front Mount Battery Tray

Billet 2nd Gen Front Mount Battery Tray
Posted: Jun 20, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

It's amazing what collects inside of these cars. Hard to believe the passenger side was full of vegetation and it had little more then surface rust. So far I am very happy with this car.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204114-c08ab4eb-me.jpg

Top side of the Quarters have some surface rust. Shouldn't be a problem for the media Blaster.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204117-afd199ac-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204121-51e57021-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204124-50b1553f-me.jpg

All that is left for me to remove is the rear bumper and Deck lid. Then I can actually start mocking things up on the car. I can't wait !!

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204130-d8a9bcdd-me.jpg

At some point in this cars life it took a little hit to the drivers side rear. The body work they did back then was not that good as you can see in the pictures below.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204133-36a60bd9-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204136-1f746f07-me.jpg

It's hard to tell in this picture but the floor still has a wrinkle in it.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204140-f5d3a774-me.jpg

New Project - Billet Battery Tray ( www.hoodpins.net)

Since this car is truly going to be a driver and I really couldn't care less about putting the battery in the trunk. I wanted a nice billet battery tray up front to put an Optima battery in. So I called up Ron at www.hoodpins.net and told him that we need to make a billet battery tray. He agree and off he went to his computer.

Here are a couple pictures of the prototype.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204701-ab58e31c-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204705-20f6e897-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204708-41f1947a-me.jpg

If there is enough interest I will make a few extra for people.

Pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net

OLDFLM

06-21-2011, 05:28 AM

Now that's purdy right thar! :thumbsup:

DOOM

06-21-2011, 06:05 AM

Bla-Bla-Bla quit whining and get this thing done!!!!!

syborg tt

06-21-2011, 07:41 AM

Bla-Bla-Bla quit whining and get this thing done!!!!!

Hurry up and get that old 69 out of your shop so you can fit my 70 in there. Looks like we need to do some body work on this baby.

70rs

06-21-2011, 08:54 AM

Marty, I am interested in the battery jewelry. Can you pm me $$info when you have time please?
Also, I listed the part# for those headers in the other thread.:thumbsup: and sent you a pm too.

syborg tt

06-21-2011, 10:09 AM

Marty, I am interested in the battery jewelry. Can you pm me $$info when you have time please?
Also, I listed the part# for those headers in the other thread.:thumbsup: and sent you a pm too.

pm sent

formula98

07-06-2011, 11:03 PM

http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/albums/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2011%2003-28%202nd%20Chance%20Camaro%20006.JPG

If there is enough interest I will make a few extra for people.

Pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net
I'm in for 2 of them..... Here are a few shots of the tray in my Z28

http://www.garagescene.net/gallery3/var/resizes/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2011%2007-04%20Battery%20Tray%20017.jpg

http://www.garagescene.net/gallery3/var/resizes/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2011%2007-04%20Battery%20Tray%20006.jpg

http://www.garagescene.net/gallery3/var/resizes/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2011%2007-04%20Battery%20Tray%20020.jpg

It fits very nice!

syborg tt

07-25-2011, 02:44 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Installing the Ride Tech Front Suspension

Installing the Ride Tech Front Suspension & DEI Boom Mat
Posted: July 25, 11 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

Steady working on the car just haven't had the time to post up pictures it's hard to believe how far behind I am on updates.

Some of the little things you need to do when installing the Ride Tech lower controls arms. You are going to have to trim the rubber grease boot so they can tuck nicely in the lower arm ball joint pocket. Ride-Tech did a nice job planning for this.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204227-06047591-me.jpg

Once Installed they look perfect.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204230-1dae6b00-me.jpg

The upper arm went on just as easy as the lower arm on the passenger side.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204225-5a9b7b93-me.jpg

I wanted to know what the ride height would be once I put the car back on the ground. So I asked Dennis over High Speed Welding made me up a couple mock up shock rods so I could set the ride height.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204240-ea703d4d-me.jpg

When I went to install the lower control arm on the drivers side the bushing didn't fit in the frame. Most likely because the car still had it's original bushings and they just kept tightening the bolt to take up slack in the worn out bushings.

This is a cool little tool I made up years ago when working on Syborg. Just slip it in and open up the bolts evenly and it will do a good job of keeping everything square. Just make sure the washers are large enough to distribute the pressure.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204243-fc521b16-me.jpg

Make sure you opened the gap up at least a 1/4" further then you need as the metal will spring back.

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Lower control arm fit right in after I spread the lower control arm pocket

Funny in the old days ( late 80's - early 90's ) I would have got out the dead blow hammer and just beat it in. Most likely damaging the paint, the bolts and my skin. However hitting things with a hammer sometimes just make you feel better.

Checking the fully compressed height - wow is the car going to be low.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204256-ae4e673c-me.jpg

When I was at the Good Guys Columbus show I headed over to DEI to check out there new sound & heat insulation product. Talk about a full line of stuff at 1/2 the cost of other guys. I can't wait to start installing this stuff.

www.boommat.com

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http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215134616-ca1c6eb8-me.jpg

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coolwelder62

07-25-2011, 04:35 PM

Marty,that's great you are making progress on your project.The ride tech componet's are great pcs.:thumbsup:

Rick D

07-25-2011, 06:45 PM

Looken good Marty, nice to see you moving along. Now can you please resize your pictures they don't fit on my laptop screen :P

syborg tt

07-25-2011, 08:35 PM

Looken good Marty, nice to see you moving along. Now can you please resize your pictures they don't fit on my laptop screen :P

lol - just call them super sized. :thumbsup:

OLDFLM

07-26-2011, 06:52 AM

Nice progress my friend! Are you going to run stock spindles?

syborg tt

07-26-2011, 06:58 AM

Nice progress my friend! Are you going to run stock spindles?

Yes at this time - unless you have a suggestions

jy211

07-26-2011, 07:43 AM

I'm in for 2 of them..... Here are a few shots of the tray in my Z28

http://www.garagescene.net/gallery3/var/resizes/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2011%2007-04%20Battery%20Tray%20017.jpg

http://www.garagescene.net/gallery3/var/resizes/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2011%2007-04%20Battery%20Tray%20006.jpg

http://www.garagescene.net/gallery3/var/resizes/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2011%2007-04%20Battery%20Tray%20020.jpg

It fits very nice!

crap! that looks like it'd fit in my 56' chevy nicely...:thumbsup:

nice pink jack stands BTW....my wife would approve of them

OLDFLM

07-26-2011, 12:27 PM

Not at this time - unless you have a suggestions

Luke (L&H) was suppose to be building a set for second gens... didn't see where he's had time to produce them yet though... that's the only link in my suspension I still want to upgrade at some point.

Something stronger than 40 year old spindles that will bolt up easily and accept C5/C6 brakes... Anybody making upgraded aftermarket 2nd gen spindles yet? Buehler? Buehler?? Buehler??? :_paranoid

Maybe Gonzo could knock us out a couple sets in his spare time? :lateral:

70rs

07-26-2011, 02:00 PM

Luke (L&H) was suppose to be building a set for second gens... didn't see where he's had time to produce them yet though... that's the only link in my suspension I still want to upgrade at some point.

Something stronger than 40 year old spindles that will bolt up easily and accept C5/C6 brakes... Anybody making upgraded aftermarket 2nd gen spindles yet? Buehler? Buehler?? Buehler??? :_paranoid

Maybe Gonzo could knock us out a couple sets in his spare time? :lateral:

Speed Tech....tall forged AFX spindles listed in the second gen "Street fighter" kit. Comes with C5 billet hubs and uses the C5/C6 brakes.:thumbsup:

syborg tt

07-26-2011, 02:04 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Playing with Ride Height

Posted: July 26, 11 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

I felt the need to play with the ride height on the car so the static rods needed to come out so I could make them adjustable.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140118-38d782b6-me.jpg

Desired ride height

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140120-50b8c529-me.jpg

Talk about a bad hair day or should I say lack of hair day.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140122-c6a29be9-me.jpg

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http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140127-e1c73ede-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140128-792dac15-me.jpg

syborg tt

07-26-2011, 02:06 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - A Few NOS Parts

Posted: July 26, 11 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

A few new NOS Parts (( Inner Fenders are 4-Sale 12-15-18 Update ))

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140130-db0dc49c-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140131-e6f49bd6-me.jpg

NOS Passenger Side fender

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140133-dcd16093-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2018/12/15/20181215140135-fc636dbe-me.jpg

70rs

07-26-2011, 02:16 PM

PM sent to you Marty.

tones2SS

07-26-2011, 05:35 PM

Nice to see updates. Keep us posted on this build.

syborg tt

09-02-2011, 10:16 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - BF Goodrich Tires are in the Garage

BF Goodrich Tires are in the Garage
Posted: Sept 02, 11 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

Getting ready to take the car to the Media Blaster.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204300-3ad18b7a-me.jpg

Everything just seams to easy with this car.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204302-b0e25e68-me.jpg

More Vegetation

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204308-593b4287-me.jpg

Found some Surface rust on the underside of the roof. Hopefully the media blasting will take care of it.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204311-ea7086b7-me.jpg

I will be dropping off the front clip first at the blaster. I am not a big fan of working with parts that are dirty and rusty.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204314-8843ae22-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204316-0b8140b3-me.jpg

Found some Bondo - okay a lot of Bondo ......................

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204319-1e01976a-me.jpg

Eak !! -- Maybe I will build a Rat Rod instead.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204322-d4f33192-me.jpg

and finally the Tire Rack.....

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204334-235b2118-me.jpg

Pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net

www.boommat.com

OLDFLM

09-02-2011, 01:07 PM

Cool progress pics! But by the dates on those photos you've been holding out on us? :_paranoid

70rs

09-02-2011, 01:11 PM

Which set is going on the rear of the camaro Marty? The large ones, or the extra large ones?

syborg tt

09-03-2011, 05:21 AM

Which set is going on the rear of the camaro Marty? The large ones, or the extra large ones?

X-Large ones are going on the rear. The 295's are for a buddy of mines 78 Camaro project.

ps - i am still playing catch up in posting upates

canadian

09-03-2011, 01:36 PM

You're missing a cover plate on that outlet...

Lookin' good Marty.

Blake Foster

09-04-2011, 10:08 AM

syborg tt

09-05-2011, 06:11 PM

You're missing a cover plate on that outlet...

Lookin' good Marty.

Okay after 2 years I finally put the cover on after i saw this picture.

syborg tt

09-05-2011, 06:13 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA i look into the future........... WAY into the future, and all i can see is SYBORG!!! 200 pages and 300,000 views!!! :lol:

maybe you can apply for the vintage plates NOW??

:_paranoid
just riding you buddy

Trust me You may be right. It's that compulsive behavior problem that i have. After seeing your Nova it got me really excited about this car. The Nova was perfect and it has been a pretty strong inspiration for this project.

syborg tt

09-06-2011, 01:51 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Pypes LS1 Block & G-Force Crossmember Install

Pypes LS1 Block & G-Force Crossmember Install
Posted: Sept 026 11 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Instead of installing the LS1 block with a cherry picker I ordered up a Pypes mock up block from www.summitracing.com . Cool product just horrible shipping box as it took 3 of them to get me one that wasn't cracked. All they
did was drop it in a box and ship it ( these were drop shipped direct from Pypes not Summit Racing ) without any packing material.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204338-0ea10dc8-me.jpg

Picked up a set of American Made Engine set back plates from Edelbrock.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204342-e0992dfe-me.jpg

Here is picture of block #3 from Pypes. Seems they are aware of the problem and it there solution is drywall screws and epoxy. I kept this one as it was the best of the 3.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204349-0995d831-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204354-336c39b7-me.jpg

Set back plates worked great. I still have to move the factory Stands back about an inch so the cross member bolts line up.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204357-f35bdd6c-me.jpg

It looks like the F-Body oil pan is going to work or at least be close.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204403-75017a84-me.jpg

Empty 700r case that I kept from previous projects

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204407-f28607e5-me.jpg

Installed the G-Force Cross member and talk about a great fit. There is plenty of clearance and the lowest point doesn't hang below the stock Sub-Frame.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204411-6a7de646-me.jpg

I need to move the motor back about an inch. Really happy as there is plenty of room up front to move the motor back.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204414-d5dee6f8-me.jpg

Since the car will be sitting pretty low with the new Ride-Tech Coil-Over suspension I wanted to make sure the cross member wouldn't hit the ground and the guys at G-Force did a great job.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204416-b01617a6-me.jpg

www.boommat.com

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syborg tt

09-16-2011, 08:30 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Front Clip back from Media Blasting

Front Clip back from Media Blasting
Posted: Sept 16 11 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

Just a quick update.

I sent the original sheet metal off to the media blaster. Some of these parts will not make it back onto the car but they will be perfect during mock up.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204423-bc405592-me.jpg

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http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204522-b878adff-me.jpg

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ParkerRS

09-16-2011, 12:33 PM

Find a GM fender at the junk yard thats good if you can Marty, the repop right fenders for these cars are crap. The lefts aren't bad but the right side repop has to be sectioned in the area between the door and hood at the windshield. I would say save it and repair, but the front area looks pretty chewed up. Good progress though.

coolwelder62

09-16-2011, 12:45 PM

Lookin good Marty.Folks should like this thread lots of full size photos for them look over.:lol:

Rick D

09-16-2011, 01:48 PM

Marty, just ask Scott about how much time I have in his rt repop fender. I would fix that one if I where you or at least look for a better OEM one to start with. And as stated the area between the upper door and hood is all wrong and I had cut and reshape Scotts. Other than that looks great :thumbsup:

DOOM

09-17-2011, 06:45 AM

OMG!! This thread is like watching paint dry!!:D

GregWeld

09-17-2011, 07:55 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ hysterical!!

So perfect!!

EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA:woot:

syborg tt

09-19-2011, 06:48 AM

OMG!! This thread is like watching paint dry!!:D

Love ya brother

I am still looking for a NOS rear Quarter and then we are good to go on sheet metal replacement.

ps I am still waiting for you to get your car out of your shop so you can replace some of the sheet metal on my car. So I am blaming you.

pss The Tiger Cage install is a piece of cake and it looks awesome in the car.

DOOM

09-19-2011, 03:49 PM

NOS rear quarters you crazy!!! Yours are fine....Don't even tell me I hand striped them for nothing you F@#^&*......

ParkerRS

09-20-2011, 06:23 AM

NOS qaurters are insanely expensive for a non number matching car. Save those for Z/28's and bigblock SS cars.

The repop qaurters are very good for these cars and fit great. They are actually the best repop metal piece available for the second gen.

The repops are a few hundred each, NOS are 1400 or more if undamaged and really don't fit any better.

syborg tt

09-20-2011, 06:35 AM

NOS rear quarters you crazy!!! Yours are fine....Don't even tell me I hand striped them for nothing you F@#^&*......

Well them hurry up and lets get your car down to Troy. So you can make room for my car in your shop.

syborg tt

09-20-2011, 06:38 AM

DIGI-TAILS

09-20-2011, 09:43 AM

Congrats for the kewl built Marty. :)

DOOM

09-21-2011, 03:36 PM

Well them hurry up and lets get your car down to Troy. So you can make room for my car in your shop.

My hinges came in the other day!:willy: I have my doors and a few miscellaneous parts at Stowe's getting blasted. Soon as thats done I'll finish bolting everthing up and off we go.. Will get you in.....

sales@jcg

09-21-2011, 07:03 PM

Marty This car isn't done yet?!?!?!?!:P

Blake Foster

09-21-2011, 07:20 PM

Marty This car isn't done yet?!?!?!?!:P

HAHAHAHAHAH you must be new here!!!!

sales@jcg

09-21-2011, 07:32 PM

HAHAHAHAHAH you must be new here!!!!

not at all have Known marty for some time... it was a joke:D

96z28ss

09-21-2011, 07:33 PM

Yeah, Marty's cars are usually done a year in advance of the start of the project thread.

65 347

09-22-2011, 04:06 AM

Well them hurry up and lets get your car down to Troy. So you can make room for my car in your shop.

Wow, your having Mario work on the car? He's so busy your car will be finished by the time your girls graduate college.:rolleyes: Just kidding brother.
Mike

RECOVERY ROOM

09-22-2011, 05:04 AM

Yeah, Marty's cars are usually done a year in advance of the start of the project thread.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Blake Foster

09-22-2011, 08:12 AM

not at all have Known marty for some time... it was a joke:D

No kidding :thumbsup:

syborg tt

09-24-2011, 07:58 PM

Man I am out of town for a couple days and you guys are kicking my butt. I'm feeling the love.

Not to worry the goal for this one is actually 2 years. :thumbsup:

Honestly 2 years :rofl:

RECOVERY ROOM

09-25-2011, 06:02 PM

If you say so

syborg tt

10-26-2011, 01:41 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Hauling the 2nd Chance Camaro to US Collision

Hauling the 2nd Chance Camaro to US Collision

Posted: Oct 14, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

The car is finally ready to make the journey to US Collision so I enlisted the help of my oldest daughter. She was more then confident she would be
able to handle the task of helping Dad get the car into the Trailer.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204537-98aad646-me.jpg

She did great the car went in without a hitch.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204539-48811703-me.jpg

Mario was surprises to see how good the car looked. However there is still paint on the car and you never know what it's going to
look like under the paint.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204543-6bf403b8-me.jpg

Back in my Garage I needed to make a front end dolly so we could move the car around at Mario's once we removed the subframe.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204546-bf3ca301-me.jpg

Flash forward one week and Mario was kind enough to let me come over and work on the car.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204551-ab6b2a49-me.jpg

JR helped me strip down the Sub Frame so we could put in the back of my Tahoe since I was to lazy to go grab my trailer.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204555-c3f6a19e-me.jpg

We mounted the new dolly so Mario can tuck the car under his 69 Camaro Project. You have got to take a minute to go look at the build thread
on his 69 Camaro. That car is going to be over the top cool.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204558-425b499f-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204604-9d578215-me.jpg

Finally started bringing parts home from my warehouse. No matter how big your garage is you always want more space.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204938-256c4458-me.jpg

My youngest decided she was going to help dad install the Edelbrock Shorty Headers. As you can see she believes in Safety First.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220205100-b5ebae99-me.jpg

In order to tuck the exhaust on 2nd Gen. Camaro's you are going to need Shorty headers. Edelbrock headers are American Made and the only
choice for this project. They will only need a minor modification on the one side.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220205104-c8d747ac-me.jpg

Both my girls are hard workers and always willing to lend a hand sooner or later I am going to get my wife to come out to
the garage to work on this car.

70rs

10-26-2011, 01:48 PM

Looking good Marty, it's nice to see the kids involved. :thumbsup:

GregWeld

10-26-2011, 02:14 PM

syborg tt

10-26-2011, 08:49 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Cutting out the Stock Wheel Tubs at US Collision

Cutting out the Stock Wheel Tubs at US Collision
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

Now that the Camaro is at Mario's we can start getting the car ready for the new BF Goodrich KDW2
Tires. The plan for the car is to be street worthy and not look like every other Camaro being built right
now. First and foremost it has to be comfortable to drive and not attract the attention of every Law
Enforcement officer on the road.

Mario did all the work getting the tubs removed and trust me I heard all about how the instructions
sucked and that the DVD wasn't much help either. So I did jump in the car and headed over to his
shop and together we were able to figure out what they wanted us to do.

Step 1:
Trim using the provided templates

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204607-f0c97a46-me.jpg

Step 2. Cutting the floor.
It doesn't have to be a snug tight fit as the new piece that you will be welding to the floor will take up
some of the gap. Also when you clamp the new wheel tub to the vertical piece it will close up any gap
that may be there. (( Picture will be posted later ))

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204612-651a9c09-me.jpg

Mario doing what he does best -- did I mention he called me and my car a bunch of names.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204626-8420215d-me.jpg

Step 3: Remove Wheel Tub
Make sure there is plenty of clearance to get the new tubs in. That's it - it's that simple.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204630-3e6d77f4-me.jpg

Step Four: Final Test Fit
Make sure you can slide the new tub in and out easily. If not remove more metal.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204633-a6260758-me.jpg

Mario did his best to take a couple pictures. Seems Kenny and him are both Experts on the Camera.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204635-b15a93cf-me.jpg

Next step is to haul the car to Pro-Tek Powder Coating to for Media Blasting.

All I can say is Mario is a great guy and I can't wait to ride with him to BBT Fab. I am certain that
ride is going to be entertaining.

syborg tt

10-26-2011, 08:55 PM

Great pics Marty!

Funny -- my daughter was always out in the shop with me.... My son had no interest at all. Get down in the engine room of the boat (twin 300 hp Cummins turbo diesels) and Adrienne was right there with me - asking "what's that - how does it work" etc.

It's pretty cool when the girls come out and help. Some of our friends kids come over and help me and ask if they can help. If it takes us all day to do one simple job but I am able to teach or show them something that is all that matters.

Funny thing is my 3rd daughter ( not really mine ) is coming over on Saturday to help me put the engine in the car.

65 347

10-27-2011, 06:27 PM

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-052ndChanceCamaro09.jpg

It's not that cold out, why is Mario wearing a coat?

Looking good!
Mike

syborg tt

10-28-2011, 06:16 AM

LOL - heck it's was 34 out this morning. Maybe he's cold blooded

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-052ndChanceCamaro09.jpg

It's not that cold out, why is Mario wearing a coat?

Looking good!
Mike

Rick D

10-28-2011, 12:38 PM

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-052ndChanceCamaro09.jpg

It's not that cold out, why is Mario wearing a coat?

Looking good!
Mike

Because those pictures are from last winter and the car is most likely already painted and being put back together as we type :rofl: J/K Looking good Marty :thumbsup:

syborg tt

11-01-2011, 11:53 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Bringing the 2nd Chance Camaro home

Bringing the 2nd Chance Camaro home
Posted: Nov 01, 2011* www.2ndchancecamaro.com

*
Good Morning All,

Now that the car is heading home it's time to explain the build of this car. The goal is simple, build a car
that anyone can build using as many bolt on as possible.

Where most people make mistakes is they take on way more then they can handle. I've seen people spend
thousand on the latest and greatest bolt on part only to realize they don't have the time, tool, skills or funds
to complete the project. I've had people tell me they just bought a new subframe and they plan to install it
over the weekend in there garage. A couple months later I find out that they have finally given up on there
project and it's 4-sale for penny's on the dollar.

So my advise is.
Be realistic in what you buy, do you really need it and do you have time & skill to actually put that part on
your car. If you don't have a lot of free time in your life and you want a suspension upgrade. There are plenty
bolt on front end kits available.

Picture Time - Mario cleaning out the inside of the car.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204639-fa45d16e-me.jpg

That would be Scott (proTour73) reading a magazine while Mario & I look at the car. Seems Scott already been
down this road and is more interested in the latest issue of Hot Rod.* Just kidding Scott

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204643-cfcb42f7-me.jpg

The car shell looks really nice and there are only a few spots that will need rust & dent repair.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204646-d125e918-me.jpg

One modification that I can't live without is mini-tubs I want plenty of tire clearance. The plan is either
to run a 295 35 18 or 335 35 18 BFG KDW 2 tire on the back of the car. I am leaning more towards the
295 since the plan is to actually drive this car. Bigger isn't always better plus going to the 12" rim cost
$1000 more and the tires cost about $500 more.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204651-1e46584a-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204655-8a0fe7ae-me.jpg

Next Step is to put it on the Rotisserie so I can have Jay at iPro-Tek Powder Coating in Joliet, IL and media blast
the shell. I really want to see what is hiding under the paint and take care of the rust on the underside of the roof.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204659-fc0fb7a8-me.jpg

syborg tt

11-01-2011, 11:57 AM

Because those pictures are from last winter and the car is most likely already painted and being put back together as we type :rofl: J/K Looking good Marty :thumbsup:

No really Mario is always cold - just kidding Mario

Yep I am way behind at posting pictures.

Mick Mc

11-01-2011, 02:21 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Cutting out the Stock Wheel Tubs at US Collisionhttp://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/albums/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2ndChanceLogo_100.jpg

Cutting out the Stock Wheel Tubs at US Collision
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

Now that the Camaro is at Mario's we can start getting the car ready for the new BF Goodrich KDW2
Tires. The plan for the car is to be street worthy and not look like every other Camaro being built right
now. First and foremost it has to be comfortable to drive and not attract the attention of every Law
Enforcement officer on the road.

Mario did all the work getting the tubs removed and trust me I heard all about how the instructions
sucked and that the DVD wasn't much help either. So I did jump in the car and headed over to his
shop and together we were able to figure out what they wanted us to do.

Step 1:
Trim using the provided templates

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-132ndChanceCamaro7.jpg

Step 2. Cutting the floor.
It doesn't have to be a snug tight fit as the new piece that you will be welding to the floor will take up
some of the gap. Also when you clamp the new wheel tub to the vertical piece it will close up any gap
that may be there. (( Picture will be posted later ))

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-132ndChanceCamaro8.jpg

Mario doing what he does best -- did I mention he called me and my car a bunch of names.

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-242ndChance4.jpg

Step 3: Remove Wheel Tub
Make sure there is plenty of clearance to get the new tubs in. That's it - it's that simple.

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-242ndChance5.jpg

Step Four: Final Test Fit
Make sure you can slide the new tub in and out easily. If not remove more metal.

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-242ndChance7.jpg

Mario did his best to take a couple pictures. Seems Kenny and him are both Experts on the Camera.

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201103-252ndChanceCamaroUSCollision003.jpg

Next step is to haul the car to Pro-Tek Powder Coating to for Media Blasting.

All I can say is Mario is a great guy and I can't wait to ride with him to BBT Fab. I am certain that
ride is going to be entertaining.

Well that install seemed easy...

Mick

syborg tt

11-04-2011, 05:30 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Size Does Matter - Which in the end might not Matter
Size Does Matter- Which in the end might not Matter

Posted: Nov 04, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Last week I was looking at the tires stored in Mario's 69 Camaro. I couldn't help but notice that his tire
looked skinny compared to the 335 BFG tire sitting in my garage. I kept telling Mario that my 335 was
much bigger then his 345 and he said no way. So I took his tire home to find out if I was correct. I figured
a side by side test would be the only way to prove that the BFG KDW 2 are indeed bigger.

Left: BFG 335 35 18 ( 14" Wide )
Middle: Michelin 345 __ 19 ( 13" Wide )
Right: BFG 295 35 18 ( 12" Wide )

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220210044-398838d7-me.jpg

Close up of the BFG 335 & Michelin 345 -- The BFG is 1" Wider

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220210046-05a61fdb-me.jpg

Close Up of the Michelin 345 & the BFG 295 -- Not much of a difference

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220210048-87daef51-me.jpg

The BFG 335 height compared to the BFG 295 - you can see the difference is much greater

Also the height is much taller on the Michelin.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220210049-4e7e5271-me.jpg

The plan has to been to run the 295's on the street and the 335's for Good-Guys events. In the end I may only be able to run the 295 on the back of 2nd Chance Camaro because I can't get the bracket from DSE.

Why you ask ?
The Mini-Tubs I purchased from DSE will fit the 335's. However, since I didn't buy there complete leaf spring conversion kit I am unable to purchase the front offset sping pocket I need to complete the conversion. Where I am confused is I can buy offset shackle & spring perch's but not the lower spring pocket - odd. I had the Allen (really nice sales guy) ask Kyle if I could purchase them and Kyle said no dice which kinda sucks.

So now I may be forced to run only the 295's full time. So Buyer Beware if buy the DSE Mini-Tubs you are going to have to make your own lower mounts for the front or by one of there 3 kits DSE offers. Sometimes you
win sometimes you lose.

I do have a couple Options

Option A:
Buy there Mini-Tub Kit # 041221 $1699.00 which doesn't include Leaf Springs & Shocks which will give you an 1.5" drop and then sell the other parts you don't need. Seems expensive but it's only money and you can't take it with you.

Option B:
Would be to have a local fab shop make a set of offset shackle mounts to complete the conversion. If I go this route I will make a couple extra to help out the two other guys I know that are in the same boat as me.

MarkM66

11-05-2011, 05:17 AM

That bugs me when places won't piece out their "kits".

Price it to make money (that's what it's all about right?), either people will buy it, or they won't... :question:

I'd probably just make or have the front shackles made. Have you searched the 2nd gen forums? I'd think someone else may have been down this road..

MarkM66

11-05-2011, 06:02 AM

I found this in another post about the front shackles:

"another way is to just flip sides.

The right pocket goes on the inside of the drivers side frame and visa versa. Make mounts for it and reinforce the floor. You have to move the dif and rear mounts in equally too. A better solution would be running a link type suspension."

DOOM

11-05-2011, 06:06 AM

Marty always has to show his is bigger than mine..........:D

DOOM

11-06-2011, 11:11 AM

Marty. I just went back and read your last post I thought these were the pictures you sent me a couple a weeks ago so I just paned through them . You did'nt tell me about this DSE ordeal ? I do have a question and I'm not trying to be funny here but did you offer to pay for these spring pockets? I'm shocked that DSE would do this !!! If you wanted them for nothing I would tell to go pound sand to! But if you offered to pay and seeing you have everthing else DSE back there I don't understand what the problem is here. I'll have to give you a call when I get some time.

syborg tt

11-09-2011, 12:56 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Putting the Car on the Rotisserie

Putting the Car on the Rotisserie
*Posted: Nov Oct 31, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Time has finally come to get the car on the rotisserie. I really want to see what is hiding under the 40 year old
paint job. Mario from US Collision was kind enough to loan me his rotisserie as we are really trying to keep this car
on a budget.

We made a couple modification to Rotisserie to make sure the car was securely mounted and wouldn't fall on Jay
the media blaster. He's got a family and I wouldn't want to be the guy who's car fell on him crushing him.* First thing
we did was to add legs to the Front End Dolly so we could slide the car onto the lift instead of bolting it directly to the lift.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204715-8afbb05d-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204721-5b44176d-me.jpg

I purchased the larger tube from a trailer shop. They use it to make trailer hitches so there is no seam on the inside
and it make for a nice tight fit.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204725-a28768f7-me.jpg

Once I hauled the car over to High Speed Welding Dennis quickly made up these support brackets to take the load
off the lower body mounts. It's amazing how much the chassis mounts flexed or should I say bend when it's be
supported by the factory mounts.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204727-33211c81-me.jpg

Getting the rear on the Rotisserie was pretty easy with the help of a chain hoist and a couple guys from the shop.
However, It did cost me breakfast and yes that is the subframe back from Pro-Tek. Super Clean and getting ready
for some clean up work.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204731-e017c8d0-me.jpg

In the rear we used the rear spring shackle mount to anchor the car to the rotisserie.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204733-918c5937-me.jpg

Four Hours later back in the trailer and heading to Pro-Tek Powder Coating to get stripped off all it's paint.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204736-a4b03cfc-me.jpg

Dennis also put a couple extra welds on to prevent the car from sliding around. When the car is off the lift for the last
time I will just grind the welds off and it will be back to the way it was when I picked it up from Mario.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204738-2d86a395-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204741-baf7c1ce-me.jpg

www.boommat.com

syborg tt

11-09-2011, 08:23 PM

syborg tt

11-09-2011, 08:25 PM

syborg tt

11-09-2011, 08:27 PM

Marty always has to show his is bigger than mine..........:D

Really I am not going to comment here ................

syborg tt

11-16-2011, 02:23 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting

ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting
Posted: Nov Nov 16, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning,

The car is in the hands of Jay over at ProTek Media blasting. In a couple days we are finally going to know what is hiding under what's left of the paint.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204749-f49aceb4-me.jpg

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204746-a61c71e0-me.jpg

You can see the car took a small hit on the Drivers Side rear but it*doesn't look to bad.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204752-0cedc381-me.jpg

Mario & I both agreed that I should look for a new rear panel since this one is to far gone. Time to see if Tom from Courtyard Camaro
(( [email protected]*)) *has a NOS piece he is willing to sell. If you need Camaro parts he is your guy.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204755-49df2bcf-me.jpg

We've got a few holes to fix*from previous body work.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204757-579e2ce6-me.jpg

Really, right on the body line - that stinks.

http://garagescene.net/_data/i/upload/2015/12/20/20151220204802-18feda8e-me.jpg

pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net

65 347

11-16-2011, 08:28 PM

Looking good Marty! As much crap as I give you I really love this build. Can't wait to see this done.
Mike

coolwelder62

11-17-2011, 05:56 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Size Does Matter - Which in the end might not Matterhttp://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/albums/Builders/Sportmachines/702ndChance/2ndChanceLogo_100.jpg

Size Does Matter- Which in the end might not Matter

Posted: Nov 04, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Last week I was looking at the tires stored in Mario's 69 Camaro. I couldn't help but notice that his tire looked skinny compared to the 335 BFG tire sitting in my garage. I kept telling Mario that my 335 was much bigger then his 345 and he said no way. So I took his tire home to find out if I was correct. I figured a side by side test would be the only way to prove that the BFG KDW 2 are indeed bigger.

Left: BFG 335 35 18 ( 14" Wide )
Middle: Michelin 345 __ 19 ( 13" Wide )
Right: BFG 295 35 18 ( 12" Wide )

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201110-25bfgmichelincompare001.jpg

Close up of the BFG 335 & Michelin 345 -- The BFG is 1" Wider

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201110-25bfgmichelincompare002.jpg

Close Up of the Michelin 345 & the BFG 295 -- Not much of a difference

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201110-25bfgmichelincompare003.jpg

The BFG 335 height compared to the BFG 295 - you can see the difference is much greater

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201110-222ndchancecamarobfgtirecompare1.jpg

Also the height is much taller on the Michelin.

http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af82/MartyMJ/2nd%20Chance%20Camaro/201110-25bfgmichelincompare004.jpg

The plan has to been to run the 295's on the street and the 335's for Good-Guys events. In the end I may only be able to run the 295 on the back of 2nd Chance Camaro because I can't get the bracket from DSE.

Why you ask ?
The Mini-Tubs I purchased from DSE will fit the 335's. However, since I didn't buy there complete leaf spring conversion kit I am unable to purchase the front offset sping pocket I need to complete the conversion. Where I am confused is I can buy offset shackle & spring perch's but not the lower spring pocket - odd. I had the Allen (really nice sales guy) ask Kyle if I could purchase them and Kyle said no dice which kinda sucks.

So now I may be forced to run only the 295's full time. So Buyer Beware if buy the DSE Mini-Tubs you are going to have to make your own lower mounts for the front or by one of there 3 kits DSE offers. Sometimes you
win sometimes you lose.

I do have a couple Options

Option A:
Buy there Mini-Tub Kit # 041221 $1699.00 which doesn't include Leaf Springs & Shocks which will give you an 1.5" drop and then sell the other parts you don't need. Seems expensive but it's only money and you can't take it with you.

Option B:
Would be to have a local fab shop make a set of offset shackle mounts to complete the conversion. If I go this route I will make a couple extra to help out the two other guys I know that are in the same boat as me.Marty bring the car down I can move the frame rail in so you can run the 335.:thumbsup:or you can install the new ridetech 4-bar rear suspension which will let you run a 335 also.Call me Bud.

syborg tt

11-17-2011, 11:26 AM

Marty bring the car down I can move the frame rail in so you can run the 335.:thumbsup:or you can install the new ridetech 4-bar rear suspension which will let you run a 335 also.Call me Bud.

Thank you for the offer brother you are the best.

However the Good news is I am dropping the car off at High Speed Welding Monday morning for them to move the sping pocket over & finish the exhaust & the Bike rack.

syborg tt

11-17-2011, 11:27 AM

Looking good Marty! As much crap as I give you I really love this build. Mike

Hi Mike,

I probably deserve it.

coolwelder62

11-17-2011, 03:13 PM

Thank you for the offer brother you are the best.

However the Good news is I am dropping the car off at High Speed Welding Monday morning for them to move the sping pocket over & finish the exhaust & the Bike rack.Great News.Good Luck,And get that thing finihed up and come out and play W/us.bud.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

syborg tt

12-04-2011, 09:14 AM

2011 12-04 Update - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting Part 2

2011 12-04 Update - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting Part 2
Posted: Dec 03, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com
Good Morning All,

Quick Update from Media Blasting - Car is looking really good

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more pictures to come this week.....

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Cris@JCG

12-04-2011, 09:25 AM

Marty- great foundation to start with! Looking forward to more progress pics..

syborg tt

12-06-2011, 07:17 PM

2011 12-06 Update - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting Part 3

2011 12-06 Update - ProTek Powder Coating Time for Media Blasting Part 3
Posted: Dec 06, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening All,

Getting closer and the car looks really nice

www.propowder.com

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cencalc6

12-06-2011, 07:52 PM

Nice progress! The Car looks very Solid... :cheers:

syborg tt

12-10-2011, 07:54 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Heading Back to US Collision Part 1

2011 12-09 Update - Heading Back to US Collision Part 1
Posted: Dec 09, 2011 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

The car is complete and heading back to US Collision for primer.

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Getting the car in the trailer was easy. About a year ago my buddy Don at Village Auto installed an electric winch.

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Time to remove all of the original caulk.

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Close up of the only body damage on the shell.

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You can see the trunk floor has a little wrinkle in it. I might leave it there after we replace the tail panel. You have to keep some of the cars history.

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I want to thank Jay for doing such a great job on the car.

www.propowder.com

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Ron in SoCal

12-10-2011, 08:37 AM

DOOM

12-10-2011, 10:37 AM

"... the trunk floor has a little wrinkle in it. I might leave it there after we replace the tail panel. You have to keep some of the cars history."

I like that Marty! What about the 'history' on the quarters? :lol: (edit: repair or replace?)

Lookin good Bro....:thumbsup:

Ron .... I told Marty we should try and save them.. The car is rock solid it would almost be a shame to replace them. The floors no big deal either

syborg tt

12-12-2011, 07:03 AM

The plan is to repair the quarter not repalce it. I've already spent more on this project then I wanted to.

The last project was over the top and I am doing my best to keep this one undercontrol. I learned from the last project that no one will ever notice all the 12 point ARP bolts and was it really worth the 6 grand.

GregWeld

12-12-2011, 07:16 AM

onelapduster

12-16-2011, 04:13 AM

Keep it simple but do the right mods. There is plenty that I would love to do to my camaro, but it would be just for me, who else is going to care? Sometimes its best to leave it alone and focus the money else ware.

syborg tt

01-06-2012, 08:32 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Getting Blasted & Kore3 Brakes

2012 01-06 Update - Geting Blasted & Kore3 Brakes

Posted: Jan 06, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

Wow am I far behind posting pictures and yes these pictures are from almost a year ago.

With the car over at US Collision it was time to start working on the sub-frame. Yep another trip to Pro-Tek Powder
Coating to get the sub-frame blasted. I just hate working with dirty or rusty parts. Call me a neat freak but I like a clean
work environment.

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The frame is pretty much rust free and the should be fairly easy for Jay to blast.

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Now that the frame is blasted I can haul it to High Speed Welding. www.highspeedwelding.com Stubby is
going to clean up the welds and add some new weld to stiffen up the frame. Not going crazy just a little clean up.

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New Product Update: www.kore3.com

New Brakes arrived from Tobin at Kore3.

The price was incredible and it has factory reliability what more could you ask for and did I mention Tobin has to be one of
the nicest vendors I have ever worked with.

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waynieZ

01-06-2012, 10:07 PM

Wow the frame is super clean. Tobin is a great guy he's always happy to help.

coolwelder62

01-07-2012, 08:05 AM

Marty,Look's great.:thumbsup:

syborg tt

01-08-2012, 08:04 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Cleaning up the old Weld

2012 01-08 Update - Cleaning up the old Welds
Posted: Jan 08, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning All,

The guys at High Speed Welding did a great job cleaning up the old welds. I'm very happy with the progress.

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65 347

01-08-2012, 06:13 PM

Looking good Marty, nice to see some progress.:thumbsup:
Mike

syborg tt

01-09-2012, 05:40 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - We have a few new Welds

2012 01-09 Update - We have a few new Welds
Posted: Jan 09, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening all,

Some quick pictures of the new welds on the subframe.

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more pictures when I get it home.

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coolwelder62

01-09-2012, 05:53 PM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

GregWeld

01-09-2012, 09:43 PM

Sheesh! I read the headline and thought I had babies.....

Looks good Marty!

waynieZ

01-10-2012, 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=GregWeld;388875]Sheesh! I read the headline and thought I had babies.....

LOL Good one Greg!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I needed a good laugh.

syborg tt

01-10-2012, 10:42 AM

Sheesh! I read the headline and thought I had babies.....

Looks good Marty!

Looks like we are going to have to wait 9 months and see.

syborg tt

01-10-2012, 04:37 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Close up of the Welds
2012 01-10 Update - Close up of the Welds
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening all,

As promised here are a few pictures of the new welds

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coolwelder62

01-10-2012, 05:58 PM

:thumbsup:

GregWeld

01-10-2012, 06:24 PM

DADDY!!!

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syborg tt

01-11-2012, 08:46 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Dusting a little Primer on the Subframe

2012 01-11 Update - Dusting a little Primer on the Subframe
Posted: Jan 10, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

My good buddy Tommy from www.sportmachines.net stopped by to help me with the car while he was in town. Honestly
I really think he came over so I would buy him lunch at Los Burritos Tapatios (( www.losburritostapatios.com )). Seems
you can't get good Mexican food in New York.

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The goal is to keep the frame from rusting during the construction phase. Once the mock up is complete Jay from Pro-Tek Powder
coating will be powder coating the frame.

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I am really happy with the new look of the stock subframe.

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My little helper is always willing to lend a hand.

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ps - Bob if you are ever in Chicago I will buy you lunch

jy211

01-11-2012, 10:58 AM

what no paint mask on your helper? Sheesh what kind of dad are you? (jK) LOL

nice progress on the pic's. :thumbsup:

syborg tt

01-11-2012, 11:38 AM

what no paint mask on your helper? Sheesh what kind of dad are you? (jK) LOL

nice progress on the pic's. :thumbsup:

Funny I had her wearing a Helmet when she was working on the car and I forget about her lungs. Maybe it has something to do with "Kenny Davis Syndrome".

Got's to have a helmet & proper seat belts

syborg tt

01-13-2012, 05:13 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Body Shell in Primer

2012 01-10 Update - Body Shell in Primer
Posted: Jan 13, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening all,

Mario and the guys at US Collision primed the shell over the weekend. I can't tell you how happy I am with them. If you need
anything done to your car and your local Mario is the man.

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Here is the great one doing his version of the "Thinker" pose.

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Inner wheel tubs are removed as the car will be getting a set of DSE mini-tubs. Not going all the way to the 335's but
want to have plenty of room for the BFG KDW2 -- 295's.

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I also have to thank Ron from www.hoodpins.net for finding this car for me. It sure is nice to have a rock solid shell.

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coolwelder62

01-13-2012, 07:19 PM

Marty,That's an awesome looking shell.:thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal

01-13-2012, 07:22 PM

Looks great Marty...:thumbsup: Are we up to date now?:D

waynieZ

01-13-2012, 07:23 PM

It looks great. That is in great shape.
My car and I were meant for each other, both of our bodies were falling apart. lol
Nice work Mario.

syborg tt

01-13-2012, 07:34 PM

Marty,That's an awesome looking shell.:thumbsup:

Thanks man

I may have another one if you feel like building another one

coolwelder62

01-13-2012, 08:01 PM

Thanks man

I may have another one if you feel like building another oneI think I will build an other 69 camaro if I can find one.PM me details.

fleetus macmullitz

01-13-2012, 08:02 PM

Your shell... is swell. :D :thumbsup:

ma73z

01-14-2012, 06:03 AM

Marty,That's an awesome looking shell.:thumbsup:

X2, that's a very nice clean shell to start out with. :thumbsup:

DOOM

01-14-2012, 07:33 AM

The shell is rock solid thats for sure!

syborg tt

01-14-2012, 07:47 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - New Tail Panel

2012 01-10 Update - New Tail Panel
Posted: Jan 14, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning ,

New parts seem to be showing up on a daily basis. I ordered a new tail panel from Tamraz and this is how they shipped it. The good news it arrived unharmed.

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syborg tt

01-24-2012, 06:33 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Bring the Shell Home
2012 01-10 Update - Bringing the shell home
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Afternoon all,

Mario and the guys at US Collision did a great job on the shell and now it's my turn to get back to work on the car.

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Once again I can't thank Mario enough for letting me borrow is rotisserie.

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GregWeld

01-24-2012, 08:08 PM

Mario is just one of the best guys in the entire friggin' UNIVERSE!

And I'm not joking!!

coolwelder62

01-24-2012, 08:11 PM

Marty,You should just buy my camaro and save yourself aton of work.:lol: I will make you a REAL smokin deal.:thumbsup:

syborg tt

01-25-2012, 04:11 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - A Little Touch Up

2012 01-10 Update - A Little Touch Up
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening all,

Now that the car is home and my little helpers are ready and willing to help. A few area's needed a little more primer so my oldest
volunteered to spray a little more primer on the car. It's important to keep your kids involved in every thing that is how they learn.

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Daddy -- Not to worry Kenny can sand it out.

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While the car is on the rotisserie I sprayed all of the hidden area's of the frame rails with Eastwoods Rust Convertor.

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Final parting shot.

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syborg tt

01-25-2012, 04:12 PM

Marty,You should just buy my camaro and save yourself aton of work.:lol: I will make you a REAL smokin deal.:thumbsup:

If I would have known you were going to sell it I would have never started this one.

GregWeld

01-25-2012, 04:31 PM

The least you could do is to give your little helpers some help!

Get a couple of these!

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syborg tt

01-25-2012, 04:36 PM

then she would be missing the best part - painted finger tips

The least you could do is to give your little helpers some help!

Get a couple of these!

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96z28ss

01-25-2012, 06:01 PM

I know your trying to keep to a budget on this car, but seriously did you need to get children? We have child labor laws in this country you know. This isn't china

coolwelder62

01-25-2012, 06:18 PM

If I would have known you were going to sell it I would have never started this one.You should know by now,I always sell the JUNK I build once it finished.:willy:

syborg tt

01-25-2012, 07:29 PM

I know your trying to keep to a budget on this car, but seriously did you need to get children? We have child labor laws in this country you know. This isn't china

man am i going to be in a lot of trouble I've had of bunch of the kids in the neighborhood help me.

syborg tt

01-25-2012, 07:30 PM

You should know by now,I always sell the JUNK I build once it finished.:willy:

That's some really nice "Junk" you've got there. If I wasn't looking at buying a new jeep I would sell everything and buy your car.

GHOSTDANCER

01-25-2012, 07:39 PM

That's some really nice "Junk" you've got there.

:lolhit:

syborg tt

02-02-2012, 04:14 PM

Good Evening All,

Now that the shell is ready for construction it's time to post up the build outline. The main purpose of this car is to be a Mountain Bike Hauler since Mountain Biking is my first love with Car shows being a close second. The goal is to combine my the two and have the ability to drive to all of the nearby Good Guys Show and then on the way home hit the nearby trails. With that being said the car has to be dual purpose built. It needs to have a good set of street tire and then have an extra set of tires for the Good Guys Events.

Last year at Good Guys Columbus I fell in love with a very understated Mustang built by Pinkee's Hot Rods. If you pick up the last months issue of Popular Hot Rodding you can see the feature they did on the car. After reading that article I new I was heading in the right direction.

We are going to try to stick with the Vintage Race Car Theme without being overstated since I want to be able to street drive the car and not get pulled over every time I drive the car. And then there is that Mountain Bike issue where are we going to put the bike. Let's just say that this is going to freak some of you out and others are going to think it's awesome.

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There are a couple other cars that has truly inspired me and this build. When the car heads to a track event I will print up some removable decals that will instantly make it look more like a Vintage TA race car. Kinda like this beast.

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I have looked at this car for at the last couple years and I just love the look. So this car will also lend some idea's to the build.

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another very clean build.

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As for modification - most of them will be simple. The car will be mostly bolt together with very reliable part and most importantly something that if I break down they won't leave me Stranded.

Wheels & Tires
18 x 10 Rear - Billet Specialties MagG Wheels www.billetspecialties.com
BFG KDW2 - 295 40 18 www.bfgoodrichtires.com
18 x 8 Front - Billet Specialties MagG Wheels
BFG KDW2 - 255 40 18

Chassis
Ride Tech Coil Ride Suspension www.ridetech.com
MuscleBar Swaybar
Tie Rod Adjuster

G-Brace w/Cowl Brace www.pro-touringf-body.com
DSE Aluminum Body Bushings www.detroitspeed.com
DSE Subframe Connectors

Flaming River Steering Shaft www.flamingriver.com
Flaming Rivers Steering Box

Eaton Differential
TA Cover www.summitracing.com

Brakes
DSE Brake Booster with reduced angle brackets
Kore 3 C5/C6 Brakes www.kore3.com

SS Brake Lines
SS Braided Brake Hoses
Quick Clips Line Clamps www.quickclips.org

Engine & Transmission
LS1 Short Block
Wegner Serpentine Alt P-Side www.wegnerautomotive.com
Edelbrock Motor Plates
Energy Suspension Motor Plates

Edelbrock Camshaft www.edelbrock.com
Edelbrock Heads
Edelbrock Intake
Edelbrock Carb

Edelbrock Shorty Headers
Floor Heat Shields
Edelbrock Stainless Exhaust Polished www.highspeedwelding.com

Bowler 4L60e Transmission www.bowlertransmissions.com
Bowler Billet Torque Convertor

Cooling
Afco Aluminum Radiator www.afcoracing.com
Afco Fan closeout
Vintage Air A/C Condensor www.vintageair.com

Fuel Delivery
Edelbrock Fuel Pump
Edelbrock Fuel Pressure Regulator
Black Push lock Earls fittings

Stock Fuel Tank www.goodmarkindustries.com
SS Tank Straps

SS Fuel Lines
Quick Clips Line Clamps

Electrical
AAW Custom wire harness www.americanautowire.com
Tech Flex Wire Wrap www.techflex.com
Phantom Keyless Entry www.phantom-products.com

No Frills Billet Battery Front Mount Battery Tray www.hoodpins.net
Optima Red Top Battery

DSE Wiper Motor
DSE 7" High Density Lights

Interior
Autometer Guages www.autometer.com
Anvil Carbon Fiber Dash www.anvilauto.com

Vintage Air Factory Fit A/C www.vintageair.com

GM Tilt Column www.gmtiltcolumn.com

Precision Billet Brake Arm
Precision Billet Brake Pedal
Precision Billet Gas Pedals

Ride Tech Cage Tiger Cage www.ridetech.com
4 Point Restraints www.seatbeltplanet.com
4 Point Restraints - Rear Seat

Stock Door Panels
Rear Kick Panel Widened

Kenwood Head Unit
Kicker 5 Channel Amplifier www.kicker.com
Kicker 5 1/4" Round Speaker
Kicker 6 x 9 Speaker
Kicker 10" Subwoofer

Stock Buckets Seats Re-Foamed by Recovery Room Interiors www.recoveryroomrodinteriors.com
Stock Rear Seat Narrowed

Paint & Body Details www.kdhotrods.com
Anvil Closeout Panel www.anvil.com
Custom Works Radiator Cover www.customworksproducts.com
Ride Tech Fender Braces

DSE A/C Closeout Panel

Billet Kruzer Hood pins - black finish www.hoodpins.net
Stock Hinges filled, drilled & plated
No Frills Prop Rod

No Frills Custom Bike Rack www.highspeedwelding.com

Rocky Mounts www.rockymounts.com

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coolwelder62

02-02-2012, 04:52 PM

I love the New Mustang GT-R.that was so cool.:thumbsup:

GregWeld

02-02-2012, 04:54 PM

Some day I'd like to have a Shelby clone like that yellow one... what a kool car!

:rofl:

BBC71Nova

02-02-2012, 05:03 PM

That's a whole lot of Mustang influence for one Camaro HA!

Should be an awesome project.

syborg tt

02-02-2012, 07:51 PM

Some day I'd like to have a Shelby clone like that yellow one... what a kool car!

:rofl:

I agree it would look nice in your Garage

syborg tt

02-02-2012, 07:52 PM

That's a whole lot of Mustang influence for one Camaro HA!

Should be an awesome project.

Can you tell what I am going to build next

coolwelder62

02-03-2012, 05:28 AM

Can you tell what I am going to build nextMarty,The mustang's where really designed for GIRL's.:D

GrabberGT

02-03-2012, 06:36 AM

Im more interested in your plan for the bike rack. Im a roadie and have planned on using my car for trips to various races around the state. I love the idea of showing up in this snarling beast of a car amongst the other overly environmentally conscious riders in their gas sippers. (For those of you who are environmentally conscious, I offset my large vehicular carbon footprint with cycling to work and an electric lawnmower) I cant fit my bike and gear in the trunk and a trunk mount rack will not work. My only other option is to fit a removable trailer hitch and use a hitch mount rack or utility trailer. I like the utility trailer idea as it also would double for road trip duty to various auto events. The trailer hitch would be removable using as many bolts on the frame as necessary to ensure it is secure. :thumbsup:

syborg tt

02-03-2012, 09:02 AM

We have a couple crazy idea's

Shoot me your e-mail and I will explain them. I am certain your not going to want to go down the road I am going. Way to extreme

Im more interested in your plan for the bike rack. Im a roadie and have planned on using my car for trips to various races around the state. I love the idea of showing up in this snarling beast of a car amongst the other overly environmentally conscious riders in their gas sippers. (For those of you who are environmentally conscious, I offset my large vehicular carbon footprint with cycling to work and an electric lawnmower) I cant fit my bike and gear in the trunk and a trunk mount rack will not work. My only other option is to fit a removable trailer hitch and use a hitch mount rack or utility trailer. I like the utility trailer idea as it also would double for road trip duty to various auto events. The trailer hitch would be removable using as many bolts on the frame as necessary to ensure it is secure. :thumbsup:

syborg tt

02-03-2012, 09:08 AM

Marty,The mustang's where really designed for GIRL's.:D

It's a Good thing I am building it for my daughter

65 347

02-06-2012, 04:55 PM

Marty,The mustang's where really designed for GIRL's.:D

What are you trying to say?!!?

65 347

02-06-2012, 04:58 PM

It's a Good thing I am building it for my daughter

Marty
Hurry up and get that camaro done! I can't wait to hear your ideas for the mustang.

Mike

syborg tt

02-06-2012, 07:41 PM

What are you trying to say?!!?

Maybe that we like girls cause Chicks dig Mustangs

syborg tt

02-28-2012, 07:28 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Installing the Ride Tech Air Bar
2012 02-21 Update - Installing the Ride Tech Air Bar www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning,

Now the fun begins.

The goal with this project is to teach people what I've learned from the last build. The main purpose is to keep people from losing there project because of poor planning. Planning isn't just writing down what you want the end product to look like it's actually being honest with yourself and making sure you have the time, money and the resources to actually build your dream car.

The plan is to show the option/cost you can do just for the rear suspension.
1. Leaf Springs Similar to Hotchkis
a. Benefits of keeping your leaf springs is cost is minimal and the car isn't going to be out of service.
b. Most backyard mechanics can do this swap in there garage or even a driveway.
c. Easy exhaust routing ( keeps your costs down when running exhaust )
d. There is a good chance you are going to be able to find an aftermarket exhaust or even use your existing exhaust

2. Diagonal 4-Bar Similar to Ride Tech
a. Benefit of this set up is cost isn't much more then leaf springs and is very adjustable.
b. There is minimal welding that can be done by any experienced welder.
c. Custom exhaust is a necessity

3. Weld in 4-Link Similar to DSE
a. Cost is more then a Diagonal 4-Bar
b. Your going to need a shop or have a good deal of Fabrication skills
c. Very adjustable
d. Custom exhaust is a necessity

So for this project I choose to go with the Ride Tech Air-Bar Set up using the single Adjustable Coilovers. I can do most of the preliminary work in my garage and haul it over the High Speed Welding and have Jr. set the Pinion angle and weld the brackets on the Axle.

Here is the Ride-Tech Bracket mocked up on the car the drivers side was a perfect fit. The passenger side needs a little adjusting to make it work.

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After I located the bracket on the frame rails I held it in place with a good set of clamps. After that all I had to do was drill a few holes in the floor and the upper bracket was in place.

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Here is a close up of how the bracket hit the floor on the passenger side. Since all of these cars are slightly different you can't expect them to fit perfectly. It's funny I was talking with Ron and his passenger side fit perfect and the drivers side was just a little off.

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Once the car arrives at High Speed Welding they will flattened the bracket so it would line up with the floor. Very simple fix.

So be honest with yourself if the car your working is you only car then you should go the leaf spring route. If you don't have to worry about the car being down for a couple days then step up to the Ride Tech suspension.

More to come later this week.

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coolwelder62

02-28-2012, 07:53 PM

Marty,Good choice.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

syborg tt

02-28-2012, 08:01 PM

Marty,Good choice.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks

The goal with this project is not to break the bank before the project even starts. I am fairly certain that this car will handle far greater then my driving ability and I will even have money to buy dinner afterwards.

waynieZ

02-28-2012, 09:09 PM

Like you say they all need tweaking. But its definitely worth it in the end. The cars coming along great Marty. I enjoy your updates.

GHOSTDANCER

02-28-2012, 09:51 PM

The cars coming al;ong great Marty. I enjoy your updates.

x2 :thumbsup:

syborg tt

02-29-2012, 07:16 AM

Thanks for the nice words guys.

I am really enjoying this project

radrambler

02-29-2012, 08:39 AM

Marti
:thumbsup:

Tom

OLDFLM

02-29-2012, 09:23 AM

Thanks for the nice words guys.

I am really enjoying this project

So are WE my friend!! Keep up the great work! :thumbsup:

coolwelder62

02-29-2012, 04:59 PM

Thanks

The goal with this project is not to break the bank before the project even starts. I am fairly certain that this car will handle far greater then my driving ability and I will even have money to buy dinner afterwards.Marty,You are right about the suspension working far better than a person's driving ability's.Just about everybody that's building a protouring car today does not have the ability to out drive their car.Mary Pozzi proved that.A camaro w/good after market stock style componet's can be fast as He77 if your are a great driver.Great Thread.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

syborg tt

03-04-2012, 06:49 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Mocking up the Subframe
2012 03-04 Update - Mocking up the Subframe
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening,

Since the goal with this car is to use as many bolt-on's as possible and limit the custom fabrication which can drive the build cost up and sometimes spirals projects out of control. If you have an unlimited budget and money is no object then you don't have to worry about it. However, most projects are built on a very strict budget these days, this one included. I learned a lot building Syborg and let me tell you there are plenty of places I could have and should have saved money. One of the reason I picked a Camaro is there are plenty of parts available and also a very wise man that will only go by the name "Bob" once said to me when you build something make sure there will be plenty of buyers when it's complete. Remember, you may not have any intentions of selling your project but no one knows what the future holds. So when you looking to build something stay true to your goals which should include a realistic budget of time, money and skill.

With the sub-frame back in the garage it was time to assemble all of these bolt-on parts. I also felt that it is important to involve my daughters and some of our friends kids.

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Installing the custom G-Force crossmember was fairly easy with the subframe out of the car.

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You can see my little helper putting the bolts in for the engine stands. I think she was having more fun then me.

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and this picture proves it.

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I think she did a great job

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Our neighbors son happened to be over so I figured I would let him bolt in the G-Force Crossmember.

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He did such a great job installing the crossmember I figured I would let him install the Edelbrock headers. In a previous post I think I mentioned that these are for a 2010 Camaro. With a little modification they will work perfect and we will be able to tuck them up nice and high so they are not visible when you look under the car. This part is another example of an off the shelf header that will require minor modification which will keep the overall build cost down.

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More to come later this week.

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ma73z

03-04-2012, 06:58 PM

Lookin good, keep the pics coming :thumbsup:

waynieZ

03-04-2012, 07:02 PM

Teach them while the're youg. Those little hands fit in some places you'd never get in. Nice!

coolwelder62

03-04-2012, 07:03 PM

Marty,It's alway's nice when your help :thumbsup: like's to be paid in Gummy Bear's.Mine have moved on to GodFather's Pizza.:lol:

Ron in SoCal

03-04-2012, 08:23 PM

Great pics Marty! Oh, and the update wasn't bad either...:thumbsup:

65 347

03-04-2012, 09:18 PM

Marty
I don't know why I didn't think of hiring cheap labor, it could keep the build cost down.
Mike

syborg tt

03-05-2012, 06:42 AM

Marty,It's alway's nice when your help :thumbsup: like's to be paid in Gummy Bear's.Mine have moved on to GodFather's Pizza.:lol:

Don't be fooled that little girl can put down a 12oz sirloin, mashed potato's and a plate of broccoli. Did i mention that she still has room for Desert. She almost eat's as much as Kenny

jy211

03-05-2012, 07:17 AM

no safety goggles or steel toed boots...man time to call OSHA! :lol: :D

Good job on the cheap labor too! :D

DOOM

03-05-2012, 07:33 AM

Free Parts And Free Labor!!!!!!!!:d

syborg tt

03-05-2012, 08:24 AM

no safety goggles or steel toed boots...man time to call OSHA! :lol: :D

Good job on the cheap labor too! :D

There taking after there Uncle Kenny D

syborg tt

03-20-2012, 07:46 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Mocking up the Kore3 Brakes

2012 03-20 Update - Mocking up the Kore3 Brakes
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening all,

Time to start putting on all of the cool parts I've acquired. First to go back on were the old spindles.

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Then I installed the AFCO steering box from www.hoodpins.net .

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Next to install was the Kore3 Front Brakes it is a very complete kit and simple to install.

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Per the easy to follow instructions.
First cut off the ears to make room for the new brackets. I took a little off at a time remember once it's gone it's gone so don't go
crazy. Be safe take off a little at a time.

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Here is what the final spindle modification looked like. The next step it to drill out two of the dust shield bolt holes and re-tap them for new
hardware.

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Now you can install the Bracket, Caliper & Hub

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All I need now is the correct rotor however I left it at my warehouse so for now I am going to use the rear rotor. I just wanted to see
how the brakes will look installed. I am very happy with this kit and the total install time was less then 2 hours.

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More to come later this week.

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waynieZ

03-20-2012, 08:28 PM

Tobin does make some nice stuff.

coolwelder62

03-21-2012, 05:19 AM

Marty,:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

OLDFLM

03-21-2012, 06:00 AM

I have the exact same kit on my Firebird! Upgraded to Z51 rotors front and rear though so it's a C5 caliper/C6 rotor hybrid. 13.4" up front and 13" out back.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv273/OLDFLM/SEMA%202009/200911-05Sema840.jpg

I think it fills the 18" Rushforth SuperSpokes out nicely! :D

syborg tt

03-21-2012, 08:53 AM

Yep, We are going to be upgrading the rotors for sure. These were bought just for Mock up. Wait till you see what were doing it's going to be very cool.

ps - I can't tell you yet but it's going to be blow peoples mind.

I have the exact same kit on my Firebird! Upgraded to Z51 rotors front and rear though so it's a C5 caliper/C6 rotor hybrid. 13.4" up front and 13" out back.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv273/OLDFLM/SEMA%202009/200911-05Sema840.jpg

I think it fills the 18" Rushforth SuperSpokes out nicely! :D

syborg tt

03-22-2012, 08:28 AM

2nd Chance Camaro - Rear Axle Prep

2012 03-22 Update - Rear Axle Prep
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

It's time to get the rear suspension on the car so I can get it off Mario's Rotissorie. The Rear suspension is a pretty straight forward install.

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My oldest daughter figured I was hungry so she made me lunch. Now that is a good kid!

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Since the upper link bar brackets needs to be welded to the axle I wanted to make sure the Powder Coating wouldn't get damaged on the
upper bars. Time to take stock in the 3m Blue Painters Tape.

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Lower Bar installed

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I just like this picture.

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I needed to get the rear differential in the trailer so my daughter Kenzie and I installed the rear tires so she could roll the rear differential into the trailer.

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and yes she did it all by herself. Man is this little girl strong.

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In the trailer and heading over to High Speed Welding so they can weld on the rear differential brackets.

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syborg tt

03-26-2012, 03:35 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Installing the Ride Tech Rear Brackets

2012 03-26 Update - Installing the Ride Tech Rear Brackets
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Evening all,

While the car was at High Speed Welding the guy's flattened the passenger side bracket to match this cars
floor pan. Very simple tweak that had to be done. Even though these parts are meant to be bolt-on some-times
they require a little work to fit better.

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After some discussion Dennis at High Speed Welding felt it was important to retain the hardware supplied
by Ride-Tech and to weld the brackets to the stock subframe to help distribute the load on the stock frame rails.

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More to come later this week.

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syborg tt

03-26-2012, 08:06 PM

2nd Chance Camaro - Finishing Up the Mini-Tub Install

2012 03-27 Update - Finishing Up the Mini-Tub Install
www.2ndchancecamaro.com

Good Morning all,

The guys at High Speed finished off the install of the Mini-Tubs.
Mario did a such great job cutting out the original tubs it made short work for the guys.

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You can see that they have already bent up one side.

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The passenger side is in and still needs a little patch work.

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Quick look from inside the wheel well

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Passenger Side Completed

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More to come later this week.

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tgvettes

03-26-2012, 08:25 PM

Are you going to run the 8.5" 10 bolt?

Tonny

coolwelder62

03-27-2012, 05:46 AM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

syborg tt

03-27-2012, 08:42 AM

Are you going to run the 8.5" 10 bolt?

Tonny

Yep,

The car is only going to have 500hp so there is no need to waste the money on a 12 bolt or god forbid but a "Ford" 9" under a chevy (( :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ))

However, I Upgraded the axles to Mosers, added TA Diff Cover and Eaton Center Section we may even weld the Axle tubes to the Center Section.

This project goal is not to go overkill on everything. Spend the money where it needs to be spent and that's it.

HWY Nova

03-27-2012, 08:49 AM

Yep,

The car is only going to have 500hp so there is no need to waste the money on a 12 bolt of god forbid but a "Ford" 9" under a chevy (( :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ))

However, I Upgraded the axles to Mosers, aqded TA Diff Cover and Eaton Center Section we may even weld the Axle tubes to the Center Section.

This project goal is not to go overkill on everything. Spend the money where it needs to be spent and that's it.

But you can buy a FAB-9 from Alston.... Its not Ford, its Alston.

--Eric

syborg tt

03-27-2012, 09:08 AM

But you can buy a FAB-9 from Alston.... Its not Ford, its Alston.

--Eric

But the 10.5" Rear is there and it's Free - Fab 9 still cost money and it's still not necessary.

Why spend money that you don't have to. You still have to buy a new center section. New Drive Shaft bla bla bla

Only spend money that you need to spend.

The car is being built to actually be driven and driven to MTB trails so I can ride. I am sure I will do a couple autocross events. But other then that the plan is to actually enjoy the car and not make it into something that will be a PIA to own and that is where most of us screw up. Just think back to when you were an actual kid and you and your friends were out cruising the streets and driving your car.

The problem i see with most projects we all think we have all of this free time to take our cars to Track Events, Good-Guys shows and what not. Why not just build a car you can actually drive and if you make it to an event then by all means use it.