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tom091074
06-09-2014, 11:49 PM
It's an old post that I just re-posted for Glassman.
He was trying to figure out what tires he wanted to run.
My bad I didn't even look at the date. Bad habit.
syborg tt
06-10-2014, 11:36 AM
I was in a similar situation, ended up making our own mounts.
I actually tossed all of the stuff in the scrap metal bin and then bought the Ride Tech bracket.
syborg tt
06-10-2014, 11:37 AM
My bad I didn't even look at the date. Bad habit.
Not to worry it was very nice that you offered to help.
syborg tt
06-10-2014, 11:39 AM
Right now i'm running a KDW 245/17 up front and don't have enough tire and i'm running a 275 in the back. I want to run a 315 and my next door neighbor is running the Nitto 05 315/17 on his and its exactly 12" wide, od of the tire, not the tread or seating bead.
I plan on mini tubbing it but its runnin sooo good with the leafs, i dont wanna change it. Only want to change the rims tires to get more meat, for looks and performance....
I tracked it a few weeks back with Greg and Seig and the car ran fantastic, just need more power and a little more grip, but shes very predictable.
Keith (Custom Works) did the clip, steering, Speed tech, coil-overs, and the Holley/Hooker swap and the car handles very good and is very controlable/predictable......fun to drive.
Went for a 45 min pedal today, 106* out, ugh....good thing i gotta large water like tub in the back yard....
If i had to do it all over again I would just cut out the old wheel tub completely and have a more rounded tub made and bond it to the quarter because you still have to clearance the outer wheel tub when you put a 27" tall tire on the car.
ps Rode my Farly Fat bike with the new Bluto suspension fork Saturday & Sunday and I feel like a kid again. It was a freaking blast !!!
Rick D
06-10-2014, 06:29 PM
ps Rode my Farly Fat bike with the new Bluto suspension fork Saturday & Sunday and I feel like a kid again. It was a freaking blast !!!
So is this what you got now??? Very cool!!!
glassman
06-10-2014, 07:39 PM
Those things are sick!!!! I haven't seen any yet!Boy has it sparked my interest.....
syborg tt
06-10-2014, 08:37 PM
So is this what you got now??? Very cool!!!
I have last years version with a few more upgrades. Wheels are carbon Fiber and weigh only 2lbs each. Which really helps getting the beast moving and stopping.
You should come ride with us.
tom091074
06-10-2014, 11:20 PM
Not to worry it was very nice that you offered to help.
Always willing to help.
WSSix
06-11-2014, 08:36 AM
If i had to do it all over again I would just cut out the old wheel tub completely and have a more rounded tub made and bond it to the quarter because you still have to clearance the outer wheel tub when you put a 27" tall tire on the car.
So this does work or is an option? I was thinking about something like this eventually simply to gain as much clearance as possible to go as low as I can. I couldn't think of a reason to not do this, even to the front, but then again, I'm no expert.
syborg tt
06-11-2014, 08:47 AM
So this does work or is an option? I was thinking about something like this eventually simply to gain as much clearance as possible to go as low as I can. I couldn't think of a reason to not do this, even to the front, but then again, I'm no expert.
In the rear Kenny re leaved (insert hammer) some of the outer inner fender to gain clearance when we swapped to the 27" tall tire a couple weeks before Sema. I like the look of a 27 rear and 26 front much better as the the rear wheel opening is slightly larger.
As for the front when you down as low as we are the inner fender becomes the problem. However the Anvil inner fenders give more "Height" clearance and also turning clearance for a 275 or even a 295.
CURVES
06-11-2014, 02:48 PM
Vince has shown (in a couple of threads) a outer wheel house mod to gain clearance. Unfortunately on my car when the quarter was replaced they pushed it in fairly tight at the lip. I could feel there wasn't much to be gained, but to be sure I drilled a pilot hole from the inside and only found 3/16".:mad:
WSSix
06-11-2014, 07:40 PM
Thanks Marty and Scott. I'll keep the info in mind if I ever get to that point. One of these days I'll have to do quarters. I figure that will be when I tub the car if I tub it.
syborg tt
06-16-2014, 07:41 AM
Vince has shown (in a couple of threads) a outer wheel house mod to gain clearance. Unfortunately on my car when the quarter was replaced they pushed it in fairly tight at the lip. I could feel there wasn't much to be gained, but to be sure I drilled a pilot hole from the inside and only found 3/16".:mad:
That's odd as there is plenty of room in there. Try to find the thread where Vince massaged his as it is a great reference.
CURVES
06-16-2014, 08:15 AM
Yeah, I've seen what Vince does and I want to do the mod.
On the passenger side it seems to have plenty of room, however on the driver side.....not so much.
I suppose when they did the quarters, that hidden gap between the skin and and the outer wheelhouse was not a concern. The sheet metal work is very well done and I can't fault it for that.
I'm considering knocking it loose at the lip and attempting to push it out, I only need to gain about 3/8". I'd like to replace the lip with 3/16" rod anyway.
I'll wait though, my wheels and tires are on the way.....325/30/19 which is 26.7" tall and 13" wide. After the mini tub, I've got 14.75" width in the tub. Extra space can't hurt but I'm not sure I'll need it.
Ideas?
syborg tt
06-16-2014, 08:17 AM
Yeah, I've seen what Vince does and I want to do the mod.
On the passenger side it seems to have plenty of room, however on the driver side.....not so much.
I suppose when they did the quarters, that hidden gap between the skin and and the outer wheelhouse was not a concern. The sheet metal work is very well done and I can't fault it for that.
I'm considering knocking it loose at the lip and attempting to push it out, I only need to gain about 3/8". I like to replace the lip with 3/16" rod anyway.
I'll wait though, my wheels and tires are on the way.....325/30/19 which is 26.7" tall and 13" wide. After the mini tub, I've got 14.75" width in the tub. Extra space can't hurt but I'm not sure I'll need it.
Ideas?
Extra space is always good. Especially when you get the tires mounted and find out you need 15"
CURVES
06-16-2014, 08:21 AM
Yep, and now is the time to do it!
grendel
02-19-2015, 09:35 AM
and here is what's left after a long night working in the garage.
I've been collecting parts for the last couple years. Last year my good friend Morgan introduced me to John & Josh. Josh ownsPrecision billet concepts and he built these pedals for 2nd gen Camaro's and Firebirds. When I saw them I fell in love and just had to have the full set up. From E-Brake to Gas pedal I even purchased the clutch master just in case I end up installing a manual transmission.
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Pictures hosted by www.garagescene.net
I want a set of these... I am sad they don't make them anymore.
Yeah, I've seen what Vince does and I want to do the mod.
On the passenger side it seems to have plenty of room, however on the driver side.....not so much.
I suppose when they did the quarters, that hidden gap between the skin and and the outer wheelhouse was not a concern. The sheet metal work is very well done and I can't fault it for that.
I'm considering knocking it loose at the lip and attempting to push it out, I only need to gain about 3/8". I'd like to replace the lip with 3/16" rod anyway.
I'll wait though, my wheels and tires are on the way.....325/30/19 which is 26.7" tall and 13" wide. After the mini tub, I've got 14.75" width in the tub. Extra space can't hurt but I'm not sure I'll need it.
Ideas?
Do you have that thread? I need an inch in my wheel wells.
syborg tt
02-19-2015, 11:46 AM
I want a set of these... I am sad they don't make them anymore.
I agree I liked these so much I actually purchased the automatic version and the manual version of the pedals. My only regret was not buying a full set of each. Right now I have the clutch pedal, Pad and the remote Slave cylinder for the clutch.
Do you have that thread? I need an inch in my wheel wells.
Maybe Scott can chime in and help us find the thread.
ccracin
02-19-2015, 12:25 PM
I agree I liked these so much I actually purchased the automatic version and the manual version of the pedals. My only regret was not buying a full set of each. Right now I have the clutch pedal, Pad and the remote Slave cylinder for the clutch.
Maybe Scott can chime in and help us find the thread.
Let me know if you want to recreate any of these pieces Marty.
syborg tt
02-19-2015, 12:31 PM
Let me know if you want to recreate any of these pieces Marty.
Chad can you duplicate them ?
ccracin
02-19-2015, 01:15 PM
Chad can you duplicate them ?
From what I can see in the pics, I would say yes. Give me a ring sometime and we can discuss it. PM me if you need the number.
CURVES
02-19-2015, 08:39 PM
I want a set of these... I am sad they don't make them anymore.
Do you have that thread? I need an inch in my wheel wells.
Check gerno's "Yet another 2nd Gen Camaro-Project/Update" post 103.
I'm not sure that's going to give you an inch where you need it, but this is the mod we were talking about. Sorry I didn't mention it when you had the quarters off.
grendel
02-20-2015, 11:39 AM
From what I can see in the pics, I would say yes. Give me a ring sometime and we can discuss it. PM me if you need the number.
I am interested... also in a matching clutch arm/pedal.
syborg tt
05-15-2016, 08:09 PM
Test fitted the fat bike on the 70 today and couldn't get it to work on my Rocky Mount tray.
For now I swapped my Kuit tray and it worked but it's a bulky tray in the car.
So I will be modifying the tray and hoping I can get the Rocky Mount tray to work.
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WSSix
05-17-2016, 05:54 PM
The perspective of the picture makes the bike look HUGE! Glad you're out enjoying the car and the bike.
Juicypop
05-17-2016, 06:18 PM
Test fitted the fat bike on the 70 today and couldn't get it to work on my Rocky Mount tray.
For now I swapped my Kuit tray and it worked but it's a bulky tray in the car.
So I will be modifying the tray and hoping I can get the Rocky Mount tray to work.
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Marty-MJ
Thats a nice pic and the bike looks cool on that car. Nice build brother.
SlowProgress
05-17-2016, 07:08 PM
Nice; not just a mountain bike but a fatty to boot - pretty cool !
syborg tt
06-12-2016, 10:16 AM
Before the car left Kenny's to come home I asked him to make me down bars in the engine bay which would eventually hold the remote reservoir shocks by Ride Tech.
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Now that the car has been home for about 7 months and the first punch list is complete I figure I should do some back
posting to catch get everyone up to date on the car.
When the car left Kenny's the car had some motor issues. No fault of Kenny's but after 6 months Kenny & I decided to give the car to my
buddy Don at Village Auto. Kenny and Stan were able to fix the main issue but were unable to figure out why it would idle and had terrible driveability.
Well after many hours of screwing around with the car Don and the guys at Village Auto figured it out. The Holley HP carb that was our problem and it seems
no matter what we did the carb would dump fuel into the motor when the fuel pump kicked on even if the car wasn't running. So with a quick call to Summit
we ordered up a new old school 650 Holley carb and all of our problems were solved. The car now runs great and it is a tire smoking king which I am certain
is going to get me a ticket or two.
waynieZ
06-13-2016, 01:12 PM
Marty glad to hear it got figured out.
syborg tt
06-14-2016, 03:50 AM
Apparently I am way way behind on updates.
So I am not a big fan of chrome or polished wheels as I really don't like cleaning them and on certain cars it just looks good. For me I just
didn't like how they looked so the wheels and the trim came off and were coated in a Titanium color to give the car a more industrial look.
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ccracin
06-14-2016, 05:02 AM
All positive changes Marty, really like it!
syborg tt
06-14-2016, 07:41 AM
All positive changes Marty, really like it!
Thanks Chad
Seems I have an issue with cleaning cars and chrome is just way to much work.
This is more my speed
Carter Hickman did this rendering for me years ago and I think I am going to ask him to update it and put on my new wheels.
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slenning
06-14-2016, 11:46 AM
Thats very cool Marty, huh, I know a certain "going to be" blue Camaro thats just heading to the body shop in a week or so :bitchslap:
syborg tt
06-14-2016, 01:25 PM
Thats very cool Marty, huh, I know a certain "going to be" blue Camaro thats just heading to the body shop in a week or so :bitchslap:
Hah, I just want to publicly say I really like your rear end.
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syborg tt
06-14-2016, 03:42 PM
So when the car came home back in October I gave it a bath for the first time and Satin paint is really easy to wash. Just make
sure you use a Boars Hair brush as you don't want to polish the finish.
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syborg tt
06-19-2016, 06:28 AM
So first thing that we needed to figure out was how to get rid of the old car gas smell.
First up replace the gas cap. The tank I received from Goodmark was for a 71 and up and the cap we had was for a 70. I big thank you goes to the guys at Goodmark for helping me figure this out.
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Next up was a filter/vent on a budget.
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So 2 months later and no smell. Sometimes budget fixes work great
syborg tt
06-19-2016, 08:20 AM
Last year Victor was kind enough to do a rendering for me.
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WSSix
06-19-2016, 02:48 PM
Nice work, Marty. Did you use that easy to bend tubing that's copper something or another for your fuel lines?
syborg tt
06-20-2016, 09:09 AM
Nice work, Marty. Did you use that easy to bend tubing that's copper something or another for your fuel lines?
Actually the guys at Village auto did it and that is what they used.
syborg tt
06-25-2016, 09:52 AM
So I took the car to a local cruise night. People really seemed to like the simplicity of the car.
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syborg tt
06-25-2016, 10:10 AM
Next up...
I wanted to change up the feel on the inside of the car so the plan is to experiment with steering wheel and steering wheel dish so I
ordered up a new Grant Steering wheel in Suede. I like the feel and the new locations of the wheel. However I may consider one with
less dish next. But for the time being this should work fine.
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Okay, I finally ordered up a set of header studs and let's not talk about the bolts that are currently on the motor. Remember the 1st
version of the car was to be bolt together and so is the second version. Lets call version "Attention to Detail" phase.
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Okay, it happened... "the might as well" since I am here thing.
My goal is to quiet down the inside of the car so I called the guys at DEI and ordered more BOOM MAT. Which of course meant
that I need to remove the Seats, Carpet and Tiger Cage and of course I might as well order a few 12 point ARP bolts to put back
in the Tiger cage.
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It's a good thing I have good company while I am working in the garage. Not sure why I didn't get a new dog sooner even though they
can't talk it's nice to have someone just hanging with you. His favorite spot in under the brake pedal.
The first thing I need to do is isolate the interior from the trunk which should help reduce the sound from the Edelbrock electric fuel pump
and the general noise from an old car trunk. My plan is to make patterns of all of the opening and create close-outs with a thin high density
board and then line-x over it so it looks like part of the rear firewall.
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And of course in short order my garage was full of cars and parts.
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fleetus macmullitz
06-25-2016, 11:27 AM
No race blower added this weekend?
:gitrdun:
:P
gerno
06-25-2016, 12:24 PM
Where are the new seats???
slenning
06-25-2016, 02:25 PM
Where are the new seats???
Yeah, I know some that would look really great in there :stirthepot:
Sorry buddy :lol:
glassman
06-25-2016, 03:11 PM
Marty, are those down bars in the engine bay custom or a part#? and what do they tye off too? just the firewall? cause i like em.....
Oh, the rest of the car looks nice to....lol.
And yes, those are the Recaro's to get, I have Recaros, not those, and there is a huge difference....mine dont have enough lumber support, auto-x ok, trac, way no.
btw, just bought the lady pamela a "liv-lust" full suspension, for fathers day. She said, "what would you like for fathers day?", i said "to go buy you a mountain bike..."and thats what we did. And shes stoked.
syborg tt
06-25-2016, 04:14 PM
Thanks guys the down bars are custom. The bolt into the firewall and bolt into the frame rail.
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So as ya all know I love these seats and I have been looking at these for a long time. Here are some of the ideas I have been considering.
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Considering using these for my upper & lower radiator clamp.
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Stealing this idea from Porsche.
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Since I would like a 3 Point seat belt in red similar to this.
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I'm looking at having Morris custom make me a set in red.
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Need install my Kicker iPod controller.
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More stuff from DEI to reduce some of the interior & engine bay heat.
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Don't worry not going this crazy
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Considering padding and leather wrapping the cage.
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syborg tt
06-25-2016, 04:15 PM
And I love this finish and I am considering doing this with the center console and lower dash.
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Marty-MJ
syborg tt
06-25-2016, 04:41 PM
Next Up...POR15 Bed Liner (this stuff is hard to get off your skin)
I plan to do a bed liner in the trunk and keeping with the budget friendly and do as much as you can I going to try to use POR15 bed liner for the trunk.
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So I prepped the trunk and started by brushing Por15 in the trunk floor and inside of the quarters.
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Holy shine batman.
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And yep I got it on me
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Marty-MJ
grendel
06-26-2016, 05:57 AM
What trunk hinges are those?
I use a Denali bracket and extinguisher in all my cars... GM marked, nice stainless brackets, etc. Cheap, too. My DenaliHD came with one.
WSSix
06-26-2016, 07:09 PM
JJ can you post the number for the fire extinguisher bracket? It's on my list of things to add to the car as well.
Some great ideas you've got, Marty. Good luck!
syborg tt
06-26-2016, 07:35 PM
The trunk hinges are from Fessler. They fit and work fantastic
What trunk hinges are those?
I use a Denali bracket and extinguisher in all my cars... GM marked, nice stainless brackets, etc. Cheap, too. My DenaliHD came with one.
Marty-mj
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syborg tt
06-26-2016, 07:37 PM
JJ can you post the number for the fire extinguisher bracket? It's on my list of things to add to the car as well.
Some great ideas you've got, Marty. Good luck!
Thank you and looking forward to the part number
Marty-mj
www.garagescene.net www.syborgtwinturbo.com www.2ndcamaro.com
grendel
06-27-2016, 06:12 AM
Wow y'all are lazy :)
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oe-gm/22851772
Juicypop
06-27-2016, 07:25 AM
Looks good brother!
syborg tt
06-27-2016, 09:40 AM
Wow y'all are lazy :)
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oe-gm/22851772
Of course we are as we are trying to fit in with the new generation.
grendel
06-27-2016, 10:38 AM
I put those on the floor, either on the side or the front of the front seats.
WSSix
06-27-2016, 02:46 PM
Thanks JJ lol
syborg tt
06-30-2016, 02:16 PM
Are you actually going to drive this one to Dairy Queen for an ice cream cone or sell it first?:rofl:
I am glad to say that I did accomplish this goal so now I can sell the car without fear. :wacko:
Centerforce
06-30-2016, 04:53 PM
So as ya all know I love these seats and I have been looking at these for a long time. Here are some of the ideas I have been considering.
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Please get those seats; they look AMAZING!
Sheck44
07-01-2016, 03:35 AM
Cha ching !! $$$$$$
Love those seats
Steve
fleetus macmullitz
07-01-2016, 10:18 AM
Some cool details incorporated into the rest of the interior.
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syborg tt
07-03-2016, 10:45 PM
One of my favorite builds from the Roadster Shop
Marty-mj
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SlowProgress
07-04-2016, 05:49 PM
Thanks for posting up all the good ideas. I will probably use the muffler shield idea on the 67 so I can keep the mufflers tucked up close!
syborg tt
08-26-2016, 06:31 AM
So I finally finished the trunk last weekend.
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We (Shadow & I) install the DEI Boom.
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My daughter did come out to make us laugh a couple times.
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However she did leave when clean up time was upon us.
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tubbed69
08-27-2016, 04:29 AM
Looks good Marty but I see a new driver coming soon,great pic.
waynieZ
08-27-2016, 09:19 AM
Marty, Your lucky to have a good helper. My daughters are old enough to have their own kids which are still too young to help Vavoo in the garage. My grandson does have to go check the car out everytime he comes over so atleast there's hope for me.
Looking good!
syborg tt
08-28-2016, 08:03 PM
Looks good Marty but I see a new driver coming soon,great pic.
I have a couple years with this one and the bad news is I have one that has two months to go to get her license.
Marty, Your lucky to have a good helper. My daughters are old enough to have their own kids which are still too young to help Vavoo in the garage. My grandson does have to go check the car out everytime he comes over so at least there's hope for me.
Looking good!
What's nice is sometimes the girls come out to just hang out. It sure does make the time go by faster.
JKnight
08-28-2016, 09:09 PM
That's awesome Marty. I love everything about the concept of this car, how you built it, planned use, and family involvement. Fun experiences all around and the essence of modern hot rodding.
syborg tt
09-08-2016, 12:32 PM
This is a case of "while your there, you might as well"
Ride-Tech does a really nice job with the hardware they supply for the Tiger Cage however, I just wanted to
use ARP hardware because it looks so much nicer then the supplied bolts.
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fleetus macmullitz
09-08-2016, 01:25 PM
Looks good Marty but I see a new driver coming soon,great pic.
That is a great pic. :thumbsup:
slenning
09-09-2016, 05:43 AM
This is a case of "while your there, you might as well"
Yeah this saying kind of gets things out of hand doesn't it buddy?
Great stuff, love the pics with your kids involved!
grendel
09-09-2016, 06:03 AM
This is a case of "while your there, you might as well"
Ride-Tech does a really nice job with the hardware they supply for the Tiger Cage however, I just wanted to
use ARP hardware because it looks so much nicer then the supplied bolts.
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Yep, send me the part numbers, please.
syborg tt
09-11-2016, 06:01 AM
Yep, send me the part numbers, please.
Thanks guys and I post up the part numbers & summits price tomorrow so you guys don't go into sticker shock.
syborg tt
09-11-2016, 06:18 AM
As most of my friends know I am a little bit ADD and I tend to over think thinks and organize projects before I start especially when I have someone coming over to help me.
Step 1 is to get the dog bed and lay all the hardware out by size.
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Step 2 well I didn't plan for this and a trip to the local Sears hardware was necessary. Needed to get a wire wheel for the bench grinder so I could clean up the clamps as they oxidized a little bit over the last couple years.
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First step was to put the trunk bars in which went fairly well.
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Oh that's Mike working in the inside of the car. We figured it was my car so I should be the one inside the trunk.
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We also installed the Kicker 6 x 9 Speakers.
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Since I did all 12 point hardware on Syborg I wanted to do 6 point ARP's throughout this car.
We also installed a new package tray with a slightly different look.
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Uniting the hoop to the down bars is pretty straight forward. Just make sure you install the clamps on the correct side as they are side specific and there is a left and right half that must go together.
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Quick reference is the "T" faces up.
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In order for the clamps to look nice the lower clamps are a tight to the body which take a little extra time to tighten.
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Door Bars installed and cage is in.
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syborg tt
09-11-2016, 06:28 AM
Many years ago I purchased this heel plate from www.autovation.net and had plans to put it in the truck. However, it never made it in so now it's going
in 2nd chance. I will be dropping the car off at the local interior shop and have them make floor mats with these built into them.
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I also suffed the rear seats back in the car just to get them off my garage floor.
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Centerforce
09-12-2016, 06:36 PM
That has to be the least horrific bolt-in cage install we've ever heard of. Everything looks like it fits nice and snug and no fitment issues!
fleetus macmullitz
09-12-2016, 07:36 PM
Lookin' real good Marrtay!
Juicypop
09-13-2016, 01:56 PM
Looking good!
syborg tt
09-14-2016, 05:35 PM
Moving to the rear of the car.
The first and second trunk seal both sucked. So I took a gamble and bought a third version and it fits perfectly. It doesn't even need glue to stay in place and the best news is I can close the trunk without having to slam it.
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syborg tt
09-22-2016, 01:01 PM
Yep, send me the part numbers, please.
Here are the part numbers for the ARP Hardware
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65 347
09-22-2016, 07:32 PM
Some may say this is the best place for Marty, but hey some one had to do it.
Mike
WSSix
09-23-2016, 02:00 PM
Nice work, Marty. Have a friend who was having hood issues with a 70 SS Chevelle he purchased. He couldn't get the rear of the hood to lay down inline with the fenders. It was the cowl seal that was too stiff keeping the hood from laying flat. Changed it out to a Metro Molded or Soffseal piece, can't remember which, and it looks great now. I never would have thought the seal would be that strong. Personally, I only use Metro Molded or Soffseal. They seem to fit and feel the best. Good luck!
syborg tt
10-06-2016, 08:04 PM
Continuing to the rear of the car I have always felt that the tail panel needed to be black. So a quick call to Larry the Paint & Body guy and we both agreed it needed to be black.
So the minute his schedule opened up I would drive the car over.
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WSSix
10-06-2016, 08:06 PM
Nice change to black with the tail panel, Marty.
syborg tt
10-06-2016, 08:08 PM
Where the bike rack bungs meet the body paint chipped a little bit. Nice easy solution was to paint the bungs black. I am also thinking about putting a circular warning sticker around the bungs before I put the bike tray back on.
Ps looking for ideas for the warning sticker
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syborg tt
10-06-2016, 08:14 PM
I almost forgot (just like Kenny) Larry installed the passenger side mirror on the car for me.
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Ps For anyone that doesn't know Kenny he hates mirrors and headrests. So the fact that my car had two headrests and a drivers side mirror when it came home was pretty shocking. What is a little more shocking is the fact that he painted both mirrors and actually sent them home with the car.
Marty-MJ
grendel
10-07-2016, 09:17 AM
Want a set of Dakota digital tail lights for it?
:)
syborg tt
10-07-2016, 10:59 AM
Some may say this is the best place for Marty, but hey some one had to do it.
Mike
I am certain my Wife would agree with you.
Nice work, Marty. Have a friend who was having hood issues with a 70 SS Chevelle he purchased. He couldn't get the rear of the hood to lay down inline with the fenders. It was the cowl seal that was too stiff keeping the hood from laying flat. Changed it out to a Metro Molded or Soffseal piece, can't remember which, and it looks great now. I never would have thought the seal would be that strong. Personally, I only use Metro Molded or Soffseal. They seem to fit and feel the best. Good luck!
I am going to be ordering some more stuff from them as the windows struggle when I roll them up.
Nice change to black with the tail panel, Marty.
Thank you I can't wait to get the taillights and the rear bumper on tonight.
Want a set of Dakota digital tail lights for it?
:)
John, I do and I will be calling you shortly
syborg tt
10-09-2016, 10:15 AM
Getting a little closer.
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Need to get that bumper on the floor back on the car and over to the left a little bit.
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Thus the reason Mike is doing this.
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Fits a little better not perfect but good enough for a driver.
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Picked up this little trinket at Good-Guys Pleasonton, Ca
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fleetus macmullitz
10-09-2016, 10:28 AM
Lookin' good MJ.
syborg tt
10-09-2016, 10:30 AM
So next on the list of to do was to put the rear 4 point restraint in which meant we needed to put the rear side panels in. Let's just
say this sucked as we had to undo the Tiger Cage partially so we could put them in. It involved a ratchet strap, Mike almost losing
his fingers and us saying OMG that close.
This was side that scared the crap out of us.
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syborg tt
10-09-2016, 10:44 AM
Moving on.
Time to finally install the rear seat belts that I had custom made from Seat Belt Planet. You get to pick everything from colors of material to finishes on the buckles. The best part is the belts are DOT legal.
Prior to this I ran a tap thru the outside bolts.
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This is how it looked without the belts.
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WSSix
10-10-2016, 06:31 AM
Thanks for the Seatbelt Planet lead, Marty. I really need new belts as I'm still running around on the original ones. I really like your rear harness belts.
Josh@Ridetech
10-10-2016, 06:36 AM
Moving on.
Time to finally install the rear seat belts that I had custom made from Seat Belt Planet. You get to pick everything from colors of material to finishes on the buckles. The best part is the belts are DOT legal.
Prior to this I ran a tap thru the outside bolts.
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This is how it looked without the belts.
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Marty-mj
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Looks great!
grendel
10-10-2016, 07:57 AM
Looking really good. How did you anchor the shoulder belts?
PonchoJohn
10-10-2016, 11:38 AM
Moving to the rear of the car.
The first and second trunk seal both sucked. So I took a gamble and bought a third version and it fits perfectly. It doesn't even need glue to stay in place and the best news is I can close the trunk without having to slam it.
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Marty-MJ
Marty, you might wanna double check that seal install. It appears to be installed backwards- the lip hangs to the outside.
IDK if it would be a performance difference, but thought you should be aware.
syborg tt
10-10-2016, 03:05 PM
Lookin' good MJ.
Thanks Skip
Looks great!
Thanks Josh
Thanks for the Seatbelt Planet lead, Marty. I really need new belts as I'm still running around on the original ones. I really like your rear harness belts.
Your Welcome.
The other lead I can offer is for 3 point seat belts is Morris Classic Concepts as they have a specific DOT approved kit for the front and rear for most of the popular old cars. (( www.morrisclassic.com )) They also offer them in custom colors as well.
I will try to find some pics from Sema last year add it to the thread.
Marty, you might wanna double check that seal install. It appears to be installed backwards- the lip hangs to the outside.
IDK if it would be a performance difference, but thought you should be aware.
Houston we may have a problem as I glued it in yesterday. :hairpullout:
Looking really good. How did you anchor the shoulder belts?
Thanks John,
I had the guys at High Speed Welding weld bung in the package tray for this exact reason way back in July in 2011
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slenning
10-10-2016, 03:12 PM
Great updates Marty!! The seat belts look great and I love the black tail panel :D
BTW the picture of you in the trunk reminded me to ask you what support cylinder you used. The one that came with my hinges is way too strong, I thought I was going to snap the deck lid in half trying to close it!!! Fesler is sending me a 100lb. (I believe) to try.
syborg tt
10-10-2016, 08:36 PM
Great updates Marty!! The seat belts look great and I love the black tail panel :D
BTW the picture of you in the trunk reminded me to ask you what support cylinder you used. The one that came with my hinges is way too strong, I thought I was going to snap the deck lid in half trying to close it!!! Fesler is sending me a 100lb. (I believe) to try.
Thank you.
As for the support cylinder it's the one that came with the kit. Not sure if you know but the deck lid is the original deck lid that came with the car.
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grendel
10-11-2016, 06:08 AM
Great updates Marty!! The seat belts look great and I love the black tail panel :D
BTW the picture of you in the trunk reminded me to ask you what support cylinder you used. The one that came with my hinges is way too strong, I thought I was going to snap the deck lid in half trying to close it!!! Fesler is sending me a 100lb. (I believe) to try.
I went with a 20lb strut with the Eddie Motorsports hinges on my carbon fiber deck lid.
slenning
10-11-2016, 06:35 AM
I went with a 20lb strut with the Eddie Motorsports hinges on my carbon fiber deck lid.
Thanks John! Hopefully I'm wrong (probably :) ) about Fesler sending me a 100 lb. as a replacement. I told them it was a carbon fiber lid.
grendel
10-11-2016, 03:06 PM
Thanks John! Hopefully I'm wrong (probably :) ) about Fesler sending me a 100 lb. as a replacement. I told them it was a carbon fiber lid.
Yeah, 100lb seems really stiff.
waynieZ
10-12-2016, 08:24 AM
Marty the back seat and belts came out nice. It looks like everything fit well. I'm glad to hear you like the Metro weatherstrip Thats what I got for mine.
Krazed
12-13-2016, 07:52 AM
Picked up this little trinket at Good-Guys Pleasonton, Ca
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Not sure if you know this, but that's a Ford dealership in Anchorage/Wasilla.
If you do, all the better!
;)
syborg tt
12-13-2016, 01:28 PM
Not sure if you know this, but that's a Ford dealership in Anchorage/Wasilla.
If you do, all the better!
;)
LOL, I didn't but that makes it's even better.
I really just put it on the car to be funny and I just like how it looks. Now I have to remember that it's in Anchorage/Wasilla and I am old with a bad memory so this is going to be a tuff one.
I may just make something different up anytime someone asked me if the car came from Alaska
glassman
12-13-2016, 09:19 PM
Hey, was gonna text you, it's super cold here, mid 40's, burrrrrrr
Sales@Dutchboys
12-14-2016, 06:40 PM
About time you got to work on that thing....Looking good brother!:thumbsup:
65 347
12-15-2016, 07:47 PM
Hey, was gonna text you, it's super cold here, mid 40's, burrrrrrr
No need to rub it in Mike, it was -4 today.
Mike
syborg tt
12-16-2016, 08:05 AM
About time you got to work on that thing....Looking good brother!:thumbsup:
I know I know.
Not to worry this winter I plan to get it all ready for summer cruising and then next winter do the dash modification with Travis at Ball Metal Fab.
syborg tt
03-01-2017, 06:43 PM
So I'm back at again with a project this time. I wanted the bike tray black so I disassembled it and took the tray and the two mounts for the car to Jay over at ProTek Powder Coating.
The new tray allows me to easily fit the Fat bike.
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syborg tt
03-01-2017, 06:50 PM
Next up was suppose to be a simple project. Swap out two bolts with a nice set of ARP stainless bolts.
Very important tip here use plenty and I mean plenty of Anti-seize. I can't stress this enough as I assure you these two bolts are never coming out of here.
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It's always nice to have a furry friend helping Mike and I. It's true dogs do reduce stress just ask Mike.
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syborg tt
03-01-2017, 07:06 PM
Mike & I started swapping out the RideTech hardware for ARP Hardware. Totally Stainless sells complete kits for pretty much ever suspension set up on the market. It's not cheap but it sure does look nice.
It's the perfect contrast for this car as I plan to let the paint continue to Patina. I have no interest in perfect paint as I want to be able to lean on the car just like I did when I was 16 leaning on my buddy Kens car.
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Instead of bolting the seats from top down I would much rather have studs coming up from the bottom. So off to sears for some grade 8. 5/16 x 1 1/4 bolts, washers and nuts.
I ran a tap up from the bottom to get some of the DEI Boom Mat and sound deadening out of the threads.
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Nice clean look from the underside of the car.
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It's a much cleaner look
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syborg tt
03-06-2017, 08:32 PM
Found a few hours on Sunday to work on the 70. My goal was to get the tail light harness laid out and the harness bar on the Tiger Cage installed.
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Once again don't forget the Anti-Seize.
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Harness bar is in and since the rear seat is really just for show I did my best to lay the belts out neatly.
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Okay this is what I call BS I need four of these 7/16 bolts. Guess what I have three.
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Since I couldn't find the lap belt bolts either I decided to lay them out neatly do I could see what it would look like if I actually finished this project.
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fleetus macmullitz
03-07-2017, 01:34 PM
Dear Mr. McGuire,
We want to thank you for funding our extra long vacations last year.
Signed,
ARP
syborg tt
03-07-2017, 03:22 PM
Dear Mr. McGuire,
We want to thank you for funding our extra long vacations last year.
Signed,
ARP
tell me about and I am not even done spending money on these freaking bolts !@!@!
BBC71Nova
03-07-2017, 06:25 PM
I've found that McMaster 12 point stainless actually arrive as ARP. When I've needed a lower quantity this worked out well. McMaster doesn't state who the source is in most any case so there is some risk involved I guess.
Edit: doesn't look like they have the fine thread 6 pt though so no help... just have to pony up the ARP money ha. Nice fasteners no doubt but they add up for sure.
tubbed69
03-08-2017, 03:45 AM
Looking good Marty:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
syborg tt
03-08-2017, 09:09 PM
I've found that McMaster 12 point stainless actually arrive as ARP. When I've needed a lower quantity this worked out well. McMaster doesn't state who the source is in most any case so there is some risk involved I guess.
Edit: doesn't look like they have the fine thread 6 pt though so no help... just have to pony up the ARP money ha. Nice fasteners no doubt but they add up for sure.
Great tip on the McMaster Carr and the good news is I may actually be near the warehouse tomorrow.
Looking good Marty:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Thank you
syborg tt
03-08-2017, 09:43 PM
Moving back to the interior.
I have always disliked the OEM headliner and I have been waiting for TMI to release their bow style Suede headliner for 3 1/2 years and finally gave up.
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I received a tip that Classic Auto Trim makes exactly what I was looking for. So I took a gamble and I can say I am very satisfied.
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Aa much as I like the smooth headliner look it just doesn't fit the concept or the design of this car. So a quick trip to a local interior shop that happens to be 5 minutes from my house.
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And here is the crazy part my daughter who just turned 16 took followed me to the interior shop on the way to school. It's just such a new concept.
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Sandro's 1969 502 Camaro
03-08-2017, 10:24 PM
Marty, this car just keeps getting better and better, love all the ARP hardware too.
Sandro
syborg tt
03-12-2017, 05:30 AM
Marty, this car just keeps getting better and better, love all the ARP hardware too.
Sandro
Morning Sandro
Thank you very much and since I really don't have time or the desire right now to build another car my plan is to update this car four or five times before it gets really nice paint. This way I can enjoy it and not worry about a new project.
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syborg tt
03-12-2017, 06:15 AM
One thing that has always bothered me with old cars is how close the seats are to the dash. I remember as a kid my buddy's father built a set of set back plates so he could fit behind the wheel. He also built another set to lift the seat up an 1.5" higher for his daughter. All I need to feel comfortable is to slide the seat all the way back and a different dish on the steering wheel. However, if someone other then me were to drive the car and they happens to be taller then me they are going to want slide the seat back much further.
I was about to make a set when I noticed that Ricks Camaro stocks such and item. So I figure I might as well order them to see if I would like them. I did the passenger side first since the car was backed in on my lift and of course they made a big difference.
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Quick test fitting and I determined I would need longer hardware. I just hate it when I come up short by a 1/4 of an inch. It's a good thing the local Sears is only one mile away. For now I picked four 1.5'' x 5/16 Grade 8 bolts so I could finish the project today.
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From this pictures you can see just how much further back the seat is and when you sit in the passenger seat you no longer feel like your right on top of the dash. It's amazing the difference few inches will make.
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Next up is to order all of the correct ARP hardware from the guys at Totally Stainless and of course have Mr Trim make me a set of trim pieces to cover up the set back plates. Hopefully something simple or maybe I will make a fiberglass piece and spray it with some wrinkle paint to make it look factory.
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This pictures lets you see just how much of a difference these plates have made.
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That's all for now folks.
syborg tt
03-13-2017, 03:02 PM
I finally picked up the new bolts from Fastenal now my seat studs will be the correct length.
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fleetus macmullitz
03-13-2017, 03:35 PM
Marty,
I sense a cohesive interior design plan unfolding before us.
Are you sure that's a good thing?
:P
syborg tt
03-19-2017, 06:56 AM
Marty,
I sense a cohesive interior design plan unfolding before us.
Are you sure that's a good thing?
:P
Oh I've got a few thoughts spinning around in my head.
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WSSix
03-19-2017, 01:43 PM
Wow, you wanted the seats further back than stock? Don't ever jump in my TA or any vehicle I drive without checking the seat first then. Compared to you, I sit on the steering wheel. I'm 6' with a 31" inseam, wear a 32/33 shirt, and can't imagine trying to drive the car with the seat all the way back.
Doing good work as always, Marty.
bonecrrusher
04-30-2017, 10:48 AM
Nice updates Marty!
I hadn't seen the cage install - that looks badass!
I've been slammed with this LSA install on my SS.
syborg tt
06-12-2017, 09:40 AM
I can finally start updating again as I have been fighting with my old hosting company ( Site5 or should I call them sh!t5 ) as they locked me out and would't let me access my sites.
So if you are in need of web hosting stay away from site5 - they suck !!!
syborg tt
06-20-2017, 06:56 PM
Wow, you wanted the seats further back than stock? Don't ever jump in my TA or any vehicle I drive without checking the seat first then. Compared to you, I sit on the steering wheel. I'm 6' with a 31" inseam, wear a 32/33 shirt, and can't imagine trying to drive the car with the seat all the way back.
Doing good work as always, Marty.
lol it's more for the taller guys with long legs that I slid the seats back. I'm only one click back from stock and it feels great.
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syborg tt
06-20-2017, 07:26 PM
Moving on the front suspension.
First step was to clean it and the start taking it apart so I could install the ARP bolts with stainless Nylock nuts.
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We also needed to cut the ears out of the spring pockets as there was some interference with the Ride-Tech shocks. While I was in there we sprayed a little Eastwood chassis black rust inhibitors up in the pocket.
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There's a good story here but make sure you buy at least two of them if you need to finish a project.
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Yes we bought two on the 2nd trip.
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That would be Mike cutting and getting metal shavings all over him.
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The ARP hardware was supplied in kit form from the guy's at Totally Stainless. Very nice and it helps to keep you organized while your working on the car.
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We're all good now. Time to start the assembly.
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Bummer steering box bolts area little short.
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Moving on.
We had to drill out the sleeves for the ARP Bolts as the 1/2 bolts would not slide through the sleeve.
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That silver you see is this nightmare sh!t. Just ask Mike and no Mikey doesn't like that anti-seize at all.
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syborg tt
06-20-2017, 07:33 PM
Last week Dennis at High Speed Welding needed a car for a local Cruise Night (Insert Chevy Night) that he was sponsoring. Since they did a bunch of work on the car prior to it going to Kenny's. My car was the perfect choice for him. Of course Mike & I only finished the drivers side of the car and more importantly the car didn't have working brake lights. So the brakes light became the priority. To add to the time crunch I only had one nigh to get the brake light work as my daughter was graduating 8th grade the next day.
So a quick trip out to the garage when I got home from work at 8:30pm and I dove right into trying to figure out the issue.
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Good news is it was a simple fix it was only a bad ground and loose bulb.
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The next day I dropped the car off 1 hour before we had to leave for graduation and I picked the car up after graduation.
The one thing that bothered me was the fact that I didn't have time to Install the seat belts.
So that will be the next project.
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WSSix
06-21-2017, 06:56 PM
lol, I used that same POS cut off wheel from Harbor Freight to cut my subframe for the same reason. Worth every penny though even if I never use it again. I had no other way to make those cuts to get the coil overs in place.
syborg tt
06-21-2017, 08:03 PM
lol, I used that same POS cut off wheel from Harbor Freight to cut my subframe for the same reason. Worth every penny though even if I never use it again. I had no other way to make those cuts to get the coil overs in place.
I glad we feel the same way. I gave Mike the extra one as one day he may need it and I kinda felt bad the he volunteered to cut it for me.
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syborg tt
06-21-2017, 08:33 PM
Moving on I wanted to connect the Seat Belt Planet harness's to the factory floor location and the Ride-Tech Tiger Cage.
Step one pull the seats back and then locate the factory holes in the floor. ( Third or Fourth time now since the car has been home )
Thankfully I have a lift so poking a hole from the underside is fairly easy to do.
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Since the car is on the lift I had to climb up a ladder to get back to the inside of the car so I could widen the hole in the carpet.
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Time to clean up the threads as they have a little bit of bed liner in them. Of course when your spinning a tap you catch the padding and some or the wool carpet.
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Quick trip to Sears hardware to get a flange bolt and two nuts.
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Added a couple grade 8 washers from my hardware collection.
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The next step was fun trying to locate the holes on the rocker side. Yep this side is going to be difficult s the carpet is glued down and I can barely squeeze my hand under the door bars on the tiger cage. So I gently peal back the carpet, stuff my hand down under the carpet and had to feel for a hole.
Found it!!
Now I have to poke a hole in the carpet and good news I only had to poke it 3 or 4 times.
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Belt is in.
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One final detail that not a sole will ever see unless the car is on a lift. I added a flange nut on the inside of the trans tunnel as I felt the bolt sticking out looked unfinished.
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jcadwell
06-21-2017, 08:47 PM
One thing that has always bothered me with old cars is how close the seats are to the dash. I remember as a kid my buddy's father built a set of set back plates so he could fit behind the wheel. He also built another set to lift the seat up an 1.5" higher for his daughter. All I need to feel comfortable is to slide the seat all the way back and a different dish on the steering wheel but if someone other then me drives the car that happens to be taller then me they are going to want slide the seat back much further.
I was about to make a set when I noticed a set on Ricks Camaro. So I order a set to see if I would like them. I did the passenger side first since the car was backed in on my lift.
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Quick test fitting and I determined I would need longer hardware. I just hate it when I come up short by a 1/4 of an inch. It's a good thing the local Sears is only onemile away. For now I picked us four 1.5'' x 5/16 Grade 8 bolts. So I could finish the project today.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170312/9af94fa8e8e00ee85bac10cd27d1c641.jpg
From this pictures you can see just how much further back the seat is and when you sit in the passenger seat you no longer feel like your right on top of the dash. It's amazing the difference few inches will make.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170312/a377ead8b9cd0690d16b11e91dc8ea68.jpg
Next up is to order all of the correct ARP hardware for the guys at Totally Stainless and of course have Mr Trim make me a set of trim pieces to cover up the set back plates. Hopefully something simple or maybe I will make a fiberglass piece and spray it with some wrinkle paint to make it look factory.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170312/fa406ea1d9364f93c47b77fe54487f76.jpg
This pictures lets you see just how much of a difference these plates have made.
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That's all for now folks.
Marty-
This is a great build. I've got my old '70 1/2 RS camaro from high school I'm restoring. I'm 6'5" and really appreciate the seat relocation brackets you used. Those are definitely going in my car too.
Also will be using the TMI seats you used. Did TMI make the headrest for you to match the '70 original? Didn't really like the TMI headrests they offer, so glad to see you were able to arrive at a better option. They look great.
grendel
06-22-2017, 05:58 AM
Why not put the seat belts on the tiger cage?
syborg tt
06-22-2017, 10:27 AM
Marty-
This is a great build. I've got my old '70 1/2 RS camaro from high school I'm restoring. I'm 6'5" and really appreciate the seat relocation brackets you used. Those are definitely going in my car too.
Also will be using the TMI seats you used. Did TMI make the headrest for you to match the '70 original? Didn't really like the TMI headrests they offer, so glad to see you were able to arrive at a better option. They look great.
Thank and the set back plates are way overpriced but I didn't have time to make them.
As for the seats / headrest. Yes TMI did both. I can send you there Concept drawings and pattern numbers if you like. So when you call them you can reference my order.
Martinjmcguire at Comcast.net
Why not put the seat belts on the tiger cage?
I will be using the the harness bar on the Tiger cage for the shoulder restraints. Just didn't have the correct 7/16" hardware.
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syborg tt
06-22-2017, 10:37 AM
The Ride-Tech sway bar comes powdered coated in a black wrinkle finish which is very nice. However, I like to be a little different and I felt I needed to change it just a little bit and a color change should do the trick.
A quick to Pro-Tek powder coating in Joliet so Jay could strip the old powder off and then powder it in his brightest Red.
What a difference.
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btw this thing weighs a ton.
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syborg tt
06-24-2017, 05:49 PM
My plan was to install the sway bar myself so I wrapped it in blue painters tape.
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Next up was to lay out the hardware.
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Need to call the guys at Totally Stainless as the sway bar end link bolts & sleeves where both short.
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I quickly realized that I needed help so I asked my wife for a little help.
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syborg tt
06-24-2017, 06:05 PM
My plan is to swap out all the sheet metal hardware with ARP / Totally Stainless body hardware. First up where the inner fender bolts that attached the carbon liners to the fenders.
The stock bolts just look nasty and needed to be replaced.
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I intentional ordered these bolts longer then needed as I plan to install an ARP 6 point nut and washer.
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Since the front wheels were off this was the perfect time to actually clean the wheels.
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Now I have to take the rears off as the fronts look so much better
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syborg tt
06-24-2017, 06:06 PM
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syborg tt
06-29-2017, 09:01 PM
Still plugging away at all the little stuff.
Ordered a few more ARP nuts, bolts & washers. I wanted to finish up the hardware under the hood and I didn't care for the bolts poking up into the engine bay.
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I also installed the final four bolts in the Ride-Tech Tiger Cage. Now my harness's are secure.
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syborg tt
06-29-2017, 09:03 PM
I also started cleaning the rear tires.
It's hard to believe the tires were this dirty
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waynieZ
06-30-2017, 07:58 AM
I love me the look of some ARP bling!! Nice.
extralight
07-02-2017, 04:12 AM
I also started cleaning the rear tires.
It's hard to believe the tires were this dirty
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How did you clean the tires Marty? They look great!
syborg tt
07-04-2017, 07:57 AM
How did you clean the tires Marty? They look great!
Soap and water first then I let the dry for a day. Then I sprayed the entire tire with no-touch tire cleaner by Armor all. Let's it soak in for an hour and then wiped them dry.
Then I used good old Mothers quick detailer on the rims.
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glassman
07-04-2017, 08:00 AM
Why couldn't u just drive it in the monsoon's you've been getting? its just water lol
Spiffav8
07-04-2017, 08:38 AM
Still plugging away at all the little stuff.
Ordered a few more ARP nuts, bolts & washers. I wanted to finish up the hardware under the hood and I didn't care for the bolts poking up into the engine bay.
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I also installed the final four bolts in the Ride-Tech Tiger Cage. Now my harness's are secure.
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Looks sharp!
syborg tt
08-16-2017, 07:25 PM
Good news my daughter Kenzie and I took the 70 out for a shake down and good news we only had one loose bolt when we returned home and it was cosmetic.
Still have bunch to do but that's the fun part about having one of these cars.
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glassman
08-16-2017, 07:51 PM
Will chains fit? Hate to see it get put away...when cold comes...:action-smiley-027:
syborg tt
08-19-2017, 03:54 PM
Funny thing is it only snowed three or four times last winter. So I might not need chains.
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syborg tt
05-27-2018, 12:01 PM
Okay it’s been a long time since I did an update. So here is just a quickie. What started out as a fuel line leak turned into a while we are here moment.
Long story short the rear diff is out and heading to the powder coater. Once I get garagescene.net back up I’ll post up more pictures.
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fleetus macmullitz
05-27-2018, 04:26 PM
Wow...just wow.
:shakehead:
9 months...we deserve so much more.
:P
syborg tt
08-30-2018, 09:17 AM
So since I accidentally posted this in (70 Camaro's) build thread which I noticed yesterday and yes I feel horrible about doing that because well i just do. Plus his car is so awesome and if you haven't seen it go look at it.
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51291
Just look at this beast, it's freaking awesome and when I finally paint my car a color I am seriously going to consider painting it red like his car.
This is not my car it's (70 Camaro's car) and i just realized I don't know his name.
https://lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66766&stc=1&d=1535327225
Okay so back to my 10 footer
Since this project was never designed to be finished and would be something that I could work on f or years. It’s time to move to the
next stage of wrapping the headers and installing DEI heat shields on top of the mufflers as the rear floor gets a little hot from the mufflers.
So let’s not talk about why we had to cut the exhaust and just say that slip fit was a bad idea.
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As you can see Mike looks very serious.
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Thank you again Mike for all of your help.
syborg tt
08-30-2018, 09:19 AM
Moving on to the header removal. Okay let’s just say this design worked perfectly as it was a 20 minute job to remove them.
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When they go back in there will be ARP Header Studs going back in.
Just a quick shot of the Powder Coated rear end. Need to take inventory of all the hardware and order the new ARP 6 point stainless bolts and new EBC rotors in black.
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syborg tt
08-30-2018, 09:20 AM
Almost forgot that I worked on three fat bikes and did a carbon bar swap on Mikes 27.5 mid-fat bike.
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These three posts where from July 15th
waynieZ
09-01-2018, 07:28 PM
I loved riding street bikes in my younger day, only difference is now I need seat from a 50's Super Glide. You know the one that's about the size of a trailer fifth wheel...........
syborg tt
09-04-2018, 03:38 AM
I loved riding street bikes in my younger day, only difference is now I need seat from a 50's Super Glide. You know the one that's about the size of a trailer fifth wheel...........
Lately I’m feeling the need to buy one of those.
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fleetus macmullitz
09-04-2018, 07:29 AM
Lately I’m feeling the need to buy one of those.
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You do need to buy a new bike or sumthun...Bruh.
:P
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syborg tt
09-07-2018, 07:25 PM
So the header are back from getting coated and the down tubes are wrapped in DEI Ti Thermal wrap. I also added studs to make it even easier to install the headers which takes all of 10 minutes for both sides.
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syborg tt
09-07-2018, 07:28 PM
While I was working on the car I decided I needed to make a down and dirty hood prop as my hood kept falling on me.
Thank goodness for PVC pipe and a dremel.
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I wrapped it in red electrical tape so I would remember to remove it. Plus it adds a little friction as it snaps over the shock rod nicely now.
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MtotheIKEo
09-07-2018, 07:50 PM
Are the hood struts worn out or did they never work great to begin with?
syborg tt
09-16-2018, 03:00 PM
Are the hood struts worn out or did they never work great to begin with?
I’m on my second set of shocks so I would say that we haven’t found the correct set yet. For now I’m going to wait till the car is back on the road to start experimenting again.
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waynieZ
09-20-2018, 10:44 AM
Slick idea.
syborg tt
12-01-2018, 12:47 PM
I need to do a little back posting so I can actually post pictures of some of the projects we did on the car this summer.
A few things I wanted to do on this version of the build was to clean up the brake lines and to powder coat the differential. Just
trying to make it look nicer but not perfect as I enjoy having a car that isn't perfect.
A few of these pictures are so I remember how these go back together.
Soon, I will able to use the cool brake line bracket I purchased from Chris at JCG years ago.
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It's important to remember how the brackets go on.
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Did I ever tell you how much I dislike the smell of gear oil
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Simple the best $50.00 yes $50.00 I have ever spent. Now I won't have to worry about smelling up the inside of my truck
when I bring the rear axle to my buddy Ben's so he can clean up the welds for me.
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Before
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After
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Ben also figured he would grind down some of the other flaws from the 70's
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Dropped at Pro-Tek Powder Coating in Joliet. Looking forward to having a nice looking rear differential.
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syborg tt
12-01-2018, 01:19 PM
So way back on July 3rd I picked up the rear diff from Jay at Pro-Tek and I couldn't be happier with how it turned out. It's
actually way nicer then I expected and it might actually be to nice for the car.
Just Kidding I love this car.
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remember that $50.00 it's really starting to pay off.
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Time to take it outside and clean it to make sure there is nothing that would hurt the differential.
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I opted to powder the Aluminum Diff cover as I didn't want to have to worry about cleaning it.
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Ask Mike why we have one bolt that doesn't match an I am certain you will here some not so nice words as we had to break
an ARP bolt because we didn't put enough anti-seize on the threads and it cold welded itself to the nut. I also had to order
two longer bolts as the one's that I had were a little short.
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syborg tt
12-01-2018, 02:26 PM
I needed to clean up the Moser C Clip Eliminator brackets, the axle flanges and install the wheel studs before handing it
off to the guys at Village Auto & Custom for final assemble.
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Good Enough
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More ARP hardware
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syborg tt
12-01-2018, 02:51 PM
2018 09-05
So I dropped the rear diff off and plan to pick it up tomorrow.
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That $50.00 is really paying off
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Did I mention it is starting to get heavy and hard to carry by myself.
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syborg tt
12-01-2018, 02:59 PM
Found proof of the broken ARP bolt and I will be saving this and maybe turning it into garage art somehow.
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Yep, More ARP Hardware
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I'm installing the old brake lines so when I drop it off at High Speed Welding for stainless lines he can see how it was
done before. Not that it really matters but it will at least allow me to drive the car to the shop.
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I love these brackets
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cleaning up the caliper bracket shims
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Sandro's 1969 502 Camaro
12-01-2018, 03:18 PM
Marty the rearend turned out great. Those ARP fasteners can get addicting.
syborg tt
12-02-2018, 03:01 PM
So you know that problem us guys on these boards have. You know when we something really cool something happens and all of a sudden we feel like we need it even if we don't. Okay, if your not that guy I am very very happy for you and when you have time can you please sit down with me and "Help" me be more like you.
When I was at Sema 2017 I of course stopped by Ride-Tech just to say hi and to see what was new. First mistake I should have just said Hi. Darren of course showed me the new 2nd Gen Camaro stuff and I was blown away. The new stuff they offered for the 2nd Gen was way cool and there will be plenty of stuff for me to upgrade to in the future.
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Fast forward to summer and a quick email to Darren and the new R-Joint Arms are on the way to me for my rear suspension. Yep, I am excited and can't wait.
Nothing Like Christmas in the Summer
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Houston we may have a small issue here. Not to worry we are going to figure this out. Since we offset the lower spring mount it puts the arm way to close to the spring pocket.
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Upper Arms - No Problem Perfect Fit
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Looking at possible moving the the arms over. However, if I move the arms over I will lose the tire clearance for the 335 rear tire set up.
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In order to use the arms as is I will have to make some billet shims. For now I just used a few washers to test the articulations to see if the arms hit the spring pocket.
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Bad news in stock location they hit and I am sure with the weight of the car they would move way more then I could get them to move on my lift.
syborg tt
12-02-2018, 03:12 PM
09-22-18
Okay, Since my goal was to have the rear differential back in the car by the end of the weekend it's going in today which is actually Saturday Sept 22.
What I love about this set up is its simplicity. It's so darn simple and yet it works so well.
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Very important step...make sure you install the arms on the correct side so you can grease the them without having to take them out.
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Need to get the back of the car up high enough so I can slide it under the car since I am doing this by myself.
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syborg tt
12-02-2018, 03:30 PM
Minor dilemma here i need to get the rear end from it's current location to behind the my car which is on the lift.
Reality is I have to carry this thing about 15 feet and gently set it down on my car cribs.
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Success, I guess all that working out I did when I as younger paid off.
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Okay, this part sucked trying to get it on the lift while being hunched over.
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Success !!!
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In order to get the lower arms in I need to tip up the pinion
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I moved the cribs which made the install much easier.
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syborg tt
12-02-2018, 03:42 PM
Upper Arm Install should be simple right...Nope
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Now that the rear end is powder coated there is a little less room and because of that the upper arms will not slide in.
Out comes the spreader which I have had for years and used so many time. It's perfect when you need to install a set of aftermarket lower control arms and they just won't slide in.
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Finally
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Still not sure why I went to my hardware bin.
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I still can't believe I used all of these tools just to put the rear end in.
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syborg tt
12-02-2018, 03:56 PM
Can someone tell me why I didn't put the freaking gear oil in when it was on the ground.
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Time to improvise
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Look really really close and you can see the make shift funnel.
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and why does your wife call you when you arms are wrapped up around a rear end and the other one is pouring gear oil in.
man does that not sound good.
syborg tt
12-09-2018, 07:20 AM
So right before Sema in 2013 Kenny had painted the BBT ground effects gloss black and we both agreed the gloss black
didn't work. So Kenny had a local vinyl shop wrap them with a carbon fiber vinyl. Fast forward to today they vinyl needs
to get retired.
I also need to thank the guys at Remes Autobody for painting these for me.
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This time I went with a satin black which blends in well with the cars satin finish.
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Looks much better.
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Goosesdad
12-09-2018, 05:58 PM
Looks great Marty!
syborg tt
12-09-2018, 06:28 PM
Need to shorten the exhaust by 1/4'' and also plan to to wrap the mufflers with the DEI Muffler Shield.
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Mike's pretty darn good making a straight cut with a Sawzall
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small learning curve here for both of us.
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syborg tt
12-09-2018, 06:51 PM
Next Up put some DEI wrap on the tailpipes
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This bike stand is really getting a workout.
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syborg tt
12-09-2018, 07:16 PM
New Totally Stainless Sway Bar Links
The original set was a little short so we had to send them back.
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Before
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After
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syborg tt
12-09-2018, 07:37 PM
Still updating the factory hardware to ARP or hardware from the guys at Totally Stainless.
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Of course the inner fender is in the way. However since they are fiberglass/Carbon that is easily solved.
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fleetus macmullitz
12-09-2018, 08:09 PM
Enjoying seeing this one fleshed out MJ. :thumbsup:
Sandro's 1969 502 Camaro
12-10-2018, 08:42 PM
Looking great Marty!
syborg tt
12-13-2018, 03:31 PM
Still playing catch up from all of the work we did this summer on the car.
On Sept 30 I decided to bleed the rear brakes and since I was doing it alone I went out and bought another one man
bleeder kit (I have one somewhere) so I could get it over with. I also picked up some Brembo Dot 5.1 Brake fluid which
is what I use in my yellow Camaro.
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First thing first need to get the kinks out of the supplied hose.
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all better
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Did I tell you all how much I love this DSE Brake Booster set up.
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all done.
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Very nice kit and much better then the 10 year old one I have somewhere in my garage attic. Maybe when I clean it out next
summer I will find it and donate it to someone else.
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syborg tt
12-13-2018, 03:40 PM
Installed new stainless steel gas tank straps with some rubber anti-squeak in between the tank and the straps.
The main goal was to reduce the noise from the fuel pump which is mounted to the front of the tank.
Hard to believe how well it has worked and they look really nice.
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tubbed69
12-13-2018, 04:30 PM
Looking very good Marty,detail is everything:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Flash68
12-13-2018, 04:38 PM
That is a highly detailed machine right there.
syborg tt
12-13-2018, 04:46 PM
Next up - Install the new Ride-Tech R-Joint Upper Arms.
I can tell you that after installing just the upper arms the ride quality is significantly better and I am looking forward to
actually getting out and driving the car a little harder to see what it actually can do.
So back out to the Garage and it's empty this time. Just the Camaro.
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The best part is adjusting pinion angle is super easy now.
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syborg tt
12-13-2018, 05:00 PM
Yes, I lost one of the Universal Joint Caps
No a new universal joint was not needed however I wanted to dust the driveshaft with a little paint as it got a little scuffed
up in the garage and I dropped the cap somewhere between my garage and the kids swing set.
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So while I was trying to install the driveshaft for some unknown reason I was unable to get one of the caps to seat and low
and behold pulling the cap off I found out why.
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syborg tt
12-13-2018, 06:07 PM
I have been fighting a couple fuel line drips and I am hoping these solve the drips especially since I park the blue Cayman under the Camaro.
So I started pulling all of the lines off and I found a kink so I will have to remake this line before it goes back in.
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Opps
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Please oh Please make the drip go away.
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I had Dennis over at High Speed Welding bend me up a new line.
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I installed the flaretite brass whatever you want to call them where ever there was a drip.
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I put a piece of blue tape on the fitting as a reminder that I needed to tighten them.
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It has been a long time since I have seen these wheels and it's time to get them out of the shed.
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I so wish BFG still made these tires
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Hard to believe the wheels are back on and it's starting to look like a car again. It's been a long summer and I am happy to be working on it again.
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syborg tt
12-13-2018, 06:21 PM
I decided to wait till Mike came over to start the car plus I need to pick up some fuel from Winter Circle in Joliet
so I at least have some good quality fuel in the car over the winter.
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Let's not forget to put the trans fluid back in the car.
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Fire It Up - started right up which is awesome for a LS with a Carb.
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Checking for leaks
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Pulled it out of the garage but I didn't get that far.
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Let's just say we didn't get that far. Yes we ran out of gas !!!
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syborg tt
12-13-2018, 06:29 PM
Test Drive was fun and good news the car rode great. However, we had a minor tire rub issue which was caused
by me flipping a tailpipe hanger the incorrect direction. Simple fix however I did burn a little rubber off the sidewall.
Opps
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Bummer I am going to have to rewrap this tailpipe.
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The Rub
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syborg tt
12-13-2018, 06:51 PM
Prior to winter coming I wanted to have the paint protection applied and lucky me my neighbor does this in his garage shop
so a quick 30 second drive to his house and the car will be get a little paint correction on the gloss area's and the matte area's
will get a Matte Ceramic coating to protect the paint.
Day One.
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Heading back to my garage for the night and I will be bringing it back tomorrow so he can coat the gloss area.
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Day Two and yes it is 5am in the morning and yep I woke the neighbors and my wife.
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What is crazy after the paint correction the metallic is so noticeable.
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Gmachine1911
12-14-2018, 04:43 AM
Test Drive was fun and good news the car rode great. However, we had a minor tire rub issue which was caused
by me flipping a tailpipe hanger the incorrect direction. Simple fix however I did burn a little rubber off the sidewall.
Opps
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Bummer I am going to have to rewrap this tailpipe.
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The Rub
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Man, love this car, you've even pulled off making a bike rack look sexy! One question...I'm considering wrapping the tail pipes on my car since everything is so close back there. Do you think the wrap makes a noticeable difference in keeping the heat off other components? Thanks!
syborg tt
12-14-2018, 09:37 AM
Man, love this car, you've even pulled off making a bike rack look sexy! One question...I'm considering wrapping the tail pipes on my car since everything is so close back there. Do you think the wrap makes a noticeable difference in keeping the heat off other components? Thanks!
Thank you very much for the compliments on the car.
Yes, I think wrapping the tailpipes is going to reduce the heat buy a bunch as it was pretty much hugging the gas tank. My tailpipes where Hi-Temp coated and I just wanted to go that extra mile as I am hoping to drive the car on part of Power Tour and drive to to Good-Guys Columbus next year. So I wanted a little extra protection.
Gmachine1911
12-14-2018, 07:04 PM
Thank you very much for the compliments on the car.
Yes, I think wrapping the tailpipes is going to reduce the heat buy a bunch as it was pretty much hugging the gas tank. My tailpipes where Hi-Temp coated and I just wanted to go that extra mile as I am hoping to drive the car on part of Power Tour and drive to to Good-Guys Columbus next year. So I wanted a little extra protection.
Awesome...both the Power Tour and Goodguys Columbus are on my "to do" list next year as well. Rumor has it that next year will be the last year for Power a Tour...
syborg tt
12-18-2018, 12:20 PM
Awesome...both the Power Tour and Goodguys Columbus are on my "to do" list next year as well. Rumor has it that next year will be the last year for Power a Tour...
I can see that happening as the Power Tour has gotten so large and it's almost impossible to accommodate all of the people and cars
Goosesdad
12-19-2018, 08:29 AM
Looking great Marty!
glassman
12-21-2018, 04:00 PM
Detroit to Texas GG hoft road tour.
Or you can be a real man and drive it out to Cali, go do some mountain biking, drive to Texas in the GG hoft tour (their doing two different ones i may have told you) and drive it home.......
syborg tt
12-23-2018, 06:43 AM
Detroit to Texas GG hoft road tour.
Or you can be a real man and drive it out to Cali, go do some mountain biking, drive to Texas in the GG hoft tour (their doing two different ones i may have told you) and drive it home.......
Now that sounds like a plan
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syborg tt
04-10-2019, 04:44 PM
2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Holley Terminator X
2019 04-11 Update - Holley Terminator X & Sheet Metal Intake
www.2ndchancecamaro.com
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syborg tt
04-10-2019, 04:45 PM
I think I need to rename this thread to project never done.
So I finally have decided to update the car to EFI and I wanted something a little different but it had to be already tested by other people not me. No longer have the desire to be the first to create something.
I thought I was just going to talk to the guys at Holley for advise but the soon changed to me pulling out my credit card and ordering a bunch of parts.
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fleetus macmullitz
04-10-2019, 05:56 PM
This big dawg can hunt!
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:cool:
MtotheIKEo
04-10-2019, 06:34 PM
I’m curious to hear your impressions of the Holley unit. I have the Fitech equivalent (same style intake and throttle body) and the IAC noise is wearing on me. It works fairly well otherwise, but the sound alone may drive me to change.
Musclerodz
04-10-2019, 07:15 PM
I’m curious to hear your impressions of the Holley unit. I have the Fitech equivalent (same style intake and throttle body) and the IAC noise is wearing on me. It works fairly well otherwise, but the sound alone may drive me to change.
Sheetmetal intakes make alot of racket. Cheap ones will hammer on the back wall and are worse. Look cool, but I personally would not run one on one of my cars.
syborg tt
04-10-2019, 07:51 PM
Let’s cross our fingers and see if I can survive.
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waynieZ
04-10-2019, 08:18 PM
Nice looking new hardware you’ve got there.
syborg tt
06-26-2019, 07:54 PM
2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Fixing an Oil Leak
2019 06-26 Update - Fixing an Oil Leak
www.2ndchancecamaro.com
Trying to bring this thread back up to date as I have been doing a bunch of work on the 70. Still having fun and happy to have the car.
The plan is to put a flat hood on the car and possible the 3 Light RS Conversion header panel that Scott Mock made me years ago.
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Before I started taking the car apart I needed to fix one of the oil leaks.
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So bye bye to this sensor.
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Plan to convert the washer bottle to an overflow tank.
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for now the plan is to just swap it out to see if the leak stops.
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syborg tt
06-26-2019, 07:58 PM
2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Atomic Transmission 4L60E
2019 06-26 Update - Atomic Transmission 4L60E
Finally pulling the trigger and going EFI and 4l60e
Picked up a new case from the guys over at Atomic Transmission
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Dropped it off at Pro-Tek Powder Coating and then returned it to Atomic and now I have a brand new trans ready to install.
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syborg tt
06-26-2019, 08:06 PM
2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Redoing the AAW Wire Harness & Interior
2019 06-26 Update - Redoing the AAW Wire Harness & Interior
Moving on to the inside of the car.
The plan is to remove the dash and redo the harness and remove the wires that are
no longer needed. Wrap Everything in Tech-Flex extreme wrap and just clean things up a bit.
Out with the custom built center console that Kenny built. Which will soon be wrapped in suede.
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Seats are back out
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not sure why I haven't taken the door bar out as it would be so much easier.
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Out with the tank and soon to be going to it's new home.
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Bye Bye Intake & Carb
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Test fitting the new Intake.
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well this is going to be close
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more parts
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syborg tt
06-26-2019, 08:15 PM
When Mackenzie and I were visiting Kevin & Kelle at V8 Speed & Resto Shop we saw these bad ass fender
covers that they were using on customer cars.
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Some of you may have noticed the belt was run incorrectly so I figure I would fix it.
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All better now
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Looking forward to installing this.
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Initially the plan to run just an air filter as I still have no clue if I want to run an intake tube.
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We are going to need to space the crossbar just a little bit.
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syborg tt
06-26-2019, 08:19 PM
I am getting really good at taking this car apart.
Exhaust coming out again.
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headers also
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back in the shed.
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syborg tt
06-26-2019, 08:21 PM
Time to take the dash out and this is going to be fun and fairly easy.
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syborg tt
06-26-2019, 08:24 PM
Time to pull out the towels as the WOOL carpet itches.
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I have a pretty cool idea for the duct work based off of the lower dash.
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Next Up the Dash Pad and Steering Column
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Twenty Minutes later the dash is removed.
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syborg tt
06-26-2019, 08:31 PM
Next Up I plan to clean up the harness and thin things down a bit.
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Since I have friends at Pro-Tek Powder Coating I plan to have this bracket powder coated.
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I have found To-Do lists help keep me on schedule.
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This will be step one as it is no longer needed.
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When I started removing the harness I made sure to mark everything and take a bunch of pictures for reference.
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Column is fully removed and will be going to it's new home soon.
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syborg tt
06-26-2019, 08:33 PM
More parts for the next phase of the car.
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tubbed69
06-27-2019, 04:14 AM
Very nice work Marty,great detail:thumbsup::thumbsup:
CamaroAJ
06-27-2019, 06:14 AM
Food for thought on the air cleaner. Now you're sucking in hot radiator air, with an intake you'll be sucking in cooler air.
fleetus macmullitz
06-27-2019, 08:08 AM
Hardest workin’ man on lat-g?
:D
Goosesdad
06-27-2019, 08:10 AM
Sweet!
214Chevy
06-27-2019, 08:33 AM
Good job Marty!!
syborg tt
06-27-2019, 08:36 AM
Food for thought on the air cleaner. Now you're sucking in hot radiator air, with an intake you'll be sucking in cooler air.
Agree 100%
I have a crazy idea in my head of running the tube down and having an air box built under the nose of the car.
CamaroAJ
06-27-2019, 08:47 AM
Agree 100%
I have a crazy idea in my head of running the tube down and having an air box built under the nose of the car.
I've seen a few builds like that too. I don't care for that design myself because I still feel like thats the hottest air blowing over the entire tube to heat soak it vs. a normal setup where it runs to the right side or left side so just part of the tube gets some of the radiator air. I'd also be concerned with water when driving with it low like that.
The air box I liked the most was the one DSE did on Dale Jr's second get where they ran it into the wiper cowl. Pressurized clean cool air. His air box had a bunch of holes in it though so it wasn't functional like that though.
OLDFLM
06-27-2019, 01:21 PM
Can you run the intake backwards and put the filter in the cowl?
ScotI
06-28-2019, 09:12 AM
Agree 100%
I have a crazy idea in my head of running the tube down and having an air box built under the nose of the car.
Standard & RS header panel combination & use either set of turn signal openings as landing spots for ducting that's wrapped w/heat barrier?
WSSix
06-29-2019, 04:55 AM
Agree on the intake tube versus just slapping a filter on it. For me, it's aesthetics. Too many really great installations have been ruined by simply putting a filter on the front of the throttle body.
I like your idea, Marty, but pulling in water would be my concern. I dig Scot's idea. DSE did a great job with Tim's intake for his Camaro by going into the lower front corner and putting holes in the lower valence.
Can you tell me more about the harness wrap you chose? I'm planning to use a weave for the new battery cables I'm running. I just haven't decided on which brand or style.
Also, given all the changes you're making, are you happy you went down this path versus building it this way from the beginning?
Keep up the great work.
Gmachine1911
06-30-2019, 07:04 PM
Hey Marty, your build is looking awesome, keep up the good work! I recently changed up my air filter setup and thought I'd share some details. The setup I was running brought the filter out along the top and just behind the radiator. When I had it tuned, they suggested I get the filter away from the hot air passing thru the radiator (makes sense). I bought a custom setup that puts the filter behind a cover above the driver's side marker light. There's no problem with the cold air intake other then, in my 68 Camaro, there's just simply not enough airflow coming thru to the engine. I love the setup I had built and plan to make mods to keep it but the airflow situation is definitely something to consider. I can tell a huge difference in how the car runs...so much so that I may have to have it re-tuned once I make the necessary changes. My plan is to put a louvered panel in the forward part of the driver inner fender. Hopefully this will allow the airflow needed without bringing in all the water and road debris. Anyway, just thought I'd pass that along fwiw...
syborg tt
07-01-2019, 05:52 PM
Agree on the intake tube versus just slapping a filter on it. For me, it's aesthetics. Too many really great installations have been ruined by simply putting a filter on the front of the throttle body.
I like your idea, Marty, but pulling in water would be my concern. I dig Scot's idea. DSE did a great job with Tim's intake for his Camaro by going into the lower front corner and putting holes in the lower valence.
Initially the filter will get the car going and running. I am not 100% on the idea's in my head so until my brain tells me to stop over thinking then I will work on it. Most likely over the winter as that is when I plan to do the flat hood and the 3 light conversion on the car.
Can you tell me more about the harness wrap you chose? I'm planning to use a weave for the new battery cables I'm running. I just haven't decided on which brand or style.
So one of my largest customers sells wire and cable and years and I mean years ago I met the guys from Tech Flex. I have used it many times and it's really nice and it's easy to work with. I actually think Holley is using it on there harness for the Terminator.
Also, given all the changes you're making, are you happy you went down this path versus building it this way from the beginning?
Keep up the great work.
After I sold the truck I new I wanted to build a 2nd Gen and I didn't want to go crazy on the build. I just wanted something that was different and I think I succeeded. More important I wanted something that I would have for years as I don't have the time or the money to do a full build again. So when I decided on the camaro I new people would always be coming out with cool new stuff since it's such a popular car.
Standard & RS header panel combination & use either set of turn signal openings as landing spots for ducting that's wrapped w/heat barrier?
I like that idea a lot. Originally I was going to use the RS light opening but I have these bad ass billet fog lights from Fesler that I am in love with. I also like what the Dutchboys did on the burgandy 2nd gen which is high on my list.
Can you run the intake backwards and put the filter in the cowl?
Thought about that however it just didn't look right.
Hey Marty, your build is looking awesome, keep up the good work! I recently changed up my air filter setup and thought I'd share some details. The setup I was running brought the filter out along the top and just behind the radiator. When I had it tuned, they suggested I get the filter away from the hot air passing thru the radiator (makes sense). I bought a custom setup that puts the filter behind a cover above the driver's side marker light. There's no problem with the cold air intake other then, in my 68 Camaro, there's just simply not enough airflow coming thru to the engine. I love the setup I had built and plan to make mods to keep it but the airflow situation is definitely something to consider. I can tell a huge difference in how the car runs...so much so that I may have to have it re-tuned once I make the necessary changes. My plan is to put a louvered panel in the forward part of the driver inner fender. Hopefully this will allow the airflow needed without bringing in all the water and road debris. Anyway, just thought I'd pass that along fwiw...
Funny your car is one of my favorite builds. Maybe it's the color or possible could be that it'a an early 1st gen or it's just simple a cool build.
So I love your intake tube and I have looked at it many times and I am certain mine will look very similar just need to finalize where the air is going to come in. Once the car is running I may order Airaid's U-Build It Intake Tube (( https://www.summitracing.com/parts/aid-100-350 )) just to play around with it.
WSSix
07-01-2019, 06:26 PM
Thanks Marty. I've been looking at the Flex Tech offerings. I thought they looked good but just wasn't sure. I also didn't recognize the packing in the picture as their stuff.
Your car gives my inspiration. I think mine will be back down on the ground sometime next month, but I'm nowhere near done. I just want to drive in and upgrade it eventually.
syborg tt
07-02-2019, 07:16 PM
Thanks Marty. I've been looking at the Flex Tech offerings. I thought they looked good but just wasn't sure. I also didn't recognize the packing in the picture as their stuff.
Your car gives my inspiration. I think mine will be back down on the ground sometime next month, but I'm nowhere near done. I just want to drive in and upgrade it eventually.
Thank you for the kind words and I agree about wanting to get the car done and back on the road. However, I think I like the planning, build and toying with the car just as much as I do driving it. Funny the first real drive at home I wasn't sure I like the car after driving a new car. Then I realized it became more about what the car wasn't that I loved so much. Right before I took it apart I spent the night driving it around and it was one of those rare perfect nights where the Moon was shinning and it was so bright it made realize how cool it was driving a car that was so simple and I was blown away how nice it road with the last upgrade that I quickly fell in love with just cruising around and not even going far from home. I think that is when I realized i was going to do the EFI swap and then it morphed into where we are today.
I really love having a car that is so simple that I can work on it and when my daughters come out they can easily understand how it all works.
syborg tt
07-02-2019, 07:40 PM
2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - Cleaning Up the AAW Harness
2019 07-02 Update - Cleaning Up the AAW Harness
Okay now it's time for an actually update.
Reposting this pictures JIC we all forgot what the plan was.
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Remove this junction block as it is not needed and it has to go. It's as simple as cutting and joining them back together.
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I separated all of the wire so they all had there own Tech-Flex wrap and also shortened them as needed.
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Don't worry I twisted these together just so i could get the lengths correct.
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Man it sure would be nice if my table was a little bigger.
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Left side is finally separated
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Need to look at the wiring diagram to see where these wire go as the were not wired to anything in the car.
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Yes I have issue and one of them is working in a somewhat clean & organized environment.
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First set of wire wrapped in the Tech Flex loom.
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Over the years I have learned a few things. Twist Ties, Wire Nuts and a good pair of wire strippers make big jobs easier.
I use the twist ties to keep all of the wires together that terminate at a common plug and wire nut keep the harness from flopping around on your work bench while you are soldering.
I pretty sure I have had these blue wire nuts for 30 years.
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So I couldn't find my alligator clip thing for holding the wire so i found a new use for my vise grips.
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I staggered all of the unions so I didn't have all the bulk in the center of the harness.
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Everything is officially joined and resting on the floor.
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syborg tt
07-02-2019, 07:48 PM
On to the fun part joining all of the wires and installing heat shrink on each union.
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Boy would it be nice to be working on a bench instead of the floor.
Need to fix this union.
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Starting to look a little better.
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Hours of work and this is all of the scrap I made
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Calling it a night and plan to wrap it later in the week
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syborg tt
07-02-2019, 08:03 PM
2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - DEI Sound Deadening
2019 06-25 Update - DEI Sound Deadening
Another, while I am here moment just happened.
Might as well add more sound deadening since the dash is already off.
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It's nice having an Eastwood store 30 minutes from my house. A quick trip an to get some more sound deadening and possible stop at Baskin Robins for an Ice Cream Cone.
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Good thing I save all of the boxes
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Having the right tools helps. Just kidding this is one job that only takes a few tools and it's actually fun to do.
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syborg tt
07-02-2019, 08:07 PM
Here is a quick picture of the Tech Flex Sample kit.
2019 06-25 Tech Flex Kit
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This is the split loom for existing harness's
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I also ordered some Tessa Tape which is perfect of the engine bay wire harness.
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syborg tt
07-03-2019, 06:58 AM
2nd Chance Camaro 2.0 - AAW Tech Flex Wrap
2019 07-03 Update - AAW Tech Flex Wrap
So I have had this little table in my garage for at least year and I decided to pull it out and see if I could use it
in front of my workbench and what do you know it worked perfect.
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okay close to perfect
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Moving on to wrapping the harness with Tech Flex.
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So before I wrapped up the main harness I slid a piece of heat shrink up the main section of the harness to hold it all together.
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A few of the wires are not being used but I wanted to save them and also isolate them from any potential issues so I heat shrink wrapped each cut end.
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Slowly but surely it is starting to look like a finished harness.
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Getting closer
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I also rerouted some of the section so that when I put the harness back in the car it lays exactly where
I would like it to lay.
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so close
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Once again all done for the night and now it's time to go for a ride.
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Ketzer
07-03-2019, 07:08 AM
Wiring terrifies me... I want the clean result but get lost trying to keep up with so many runs in different directions...
Thank you for sharing!!! ....and thank you for the laughs when I was fast scrolling through the pics and saw the wire nuts....:confused59: (because I have actually seen them used in cars before...)
Jeff-
syborg tt
07-03-2019, 07:14 AM
Wiring terrifies me... I want the clean result but get lost trying to keep up with so many runs in different directions...
Thank you for sharing!!! ....and thank you for the laughs when I was fast scrolling through the pics and saw the wire nuts....:confused59: (because I have actually seen them used in cars before...)
Jeff-
I agree with you that wiring is terrifying and it took me a little bit to jump into this one as I new it was going to be very time consuming.
Wire Nuts - way back in the 80's I can remember people using them on car stereo systems.
syborg tt
07-03-2019, 07:19 AM
In my quest to work on the car I decided that I would have the lower dash bracket powder coated for no reason other then personal because it is not like anyone will ever see it.
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I also picked up some parts for the car from Midwest Hot Rods.
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Since the headers are off and these where cheap I would install these exhaust port covers.
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I need to make a few more holes so they would work.
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syborg tt
07-03-2019, 07:21 AM
and here comes the fun part
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now this is a whole bunch of wires
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The brackets are back from Pro-Tek Powder Coating and they look way to nice.
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syborg tt
07-03-2019, 07:38 AM
Moving on to installing the harness and hope all of my planning pays off.
I plan to run the harness over the top of the steering column and secure it safely to the column mount.
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so far so good
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Picked up some needed parts from the local AutoZone. I used the door edge guard on the edges of the
steering column framework as I felt they could be a wear point for the harness.
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Not sure why I always reverse the adell clamps but I just do and one day I will try to figure it out.
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Okay so one wire needed to get pulled from the wrap and thankfully it was an easy fix.
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Harness is in.
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I even plugged in the cluster to make sure it worked. It did !!!
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Calling it a night once again.
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syborg tt
07-03-2019, 09:03 AM
Finally and I mean finally I get to figure out where & how I am going to install the new Holley Terminator X.
The "X" is the newest box and it is significantly smaller then the last model.
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After look
So I have been trying to figure out where the harness is going to exit & this is one possible location.
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The plan to would be to tuck the wire behind the vintage Air unit hang them with adell clamps.
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Mounting Bracket Idea.
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syborg tt
07-03-2019, 11:01 AM
I had Dennis at High Speed Welding make me the bracket for the Holley ECI.
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Not sure if Kenny made this bracket or Vintage air supplied. Either way I am drilling a hole in it.
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Quick trip to Ace Hardware for the necessary hardware and yes I will be using nylock nuts on the bracket as I would have to pull the dash to get to it if it came loose.
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Mounted on the Vintage Air Bracket
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Started plugging things in and it appears we are good to go.
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And of course I need to get more of these to anchor the Holley Harness
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On a side not I plan to install the lower dash dash to make sure it is hidden.
syborg tt
07-03-2019, 11:31 AM
I want to keep the engine bay as original looking as possible so I am not trying to hide the wire. I need to order a new firewall wire gutter so I can route the body harness back to the factory location.
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Now that I have determined the power leads for the ECU are going to exit the passenger side cowl and head directly to the battery I am going to have to remove the inner fender.
Time to take out the battery
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and here is the billet Battery Tray we made for 2nd Gen Camaro's. I think I have a few left if anyone is interested and has no desire to put there battery in the trunk.
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Good thing my inner fenders are carbon as I am certain this little bit of metal shaving would have caused them to start rusting.
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Getting ready to remove the Carbon Inner Fenders. Nervous...Yep
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So do you guys think I should consider line-x the inner fender to add a little more protection from flying debris ?
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Holy crap getting the headlight buckets out was a bitch and then getting to the fender hardware sucked even more.
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Finally the last three bolts are out and the lower valance is hanging low enough to get the inner fender out...I hope.
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It's out and will need a safe home so I may consider bringing these to my warehouse and hiding it on a rack somewhere.
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Finally easy access to the cowl.
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syborg tt
07-03-2019, 11:31 AM
I decided that I am going to have the carriage bolts powder coated black or do you guys think I should leave them chrome.
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Not sure why I take pictures of the tools that I use but I do.
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So I need to order some parts and of course I created another To Do list.
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and finally the reward a Trip to Dairy Queen.
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214Chevy
07-03-2019, 11:49 AM
I say yes to Line X'in the fenders and yes to powdercoating the bolts too.
NOT A TA
07-03-2019, 11:56 AM
Looks good Marty! Everything is sooooo cleeeeeean!
Man, I really want a DQ hot fudge sundae now.
syborg tt
07-03-2019, 01:05 PM
I say yes to Line X'in the fenders and yes to powdercoating the bolts too.
That is kinda what I was thinking also.
Looks good Marty! Everything is sooooo cleeeeeean!
Man, I really want a DQ hot fudge sundae now.
Thank you and I am seriously considering one after my ride tonight.
glassman
07-07-2019, 07:49 AM
Not sure on the Line-X, while it serves its purpose very well, the weight may offset any savings from the carbon inner fenders (?), could be wrong.
Did you want them for size or clean lines?
Funny, take the car apart while you can drive it (summer), and then have it ready for winter LOL. :underchair:
Oh, do you even sleep? I didn't think they sold speed in Chicago :lol::lol:
syborg tt
07-07-2019, 07:02 PM
Not sure on the Line-X, while it serves its purpose very well, the weight may offset any savings from the carbon inner fenders (?), could be wrong.
Don't care about weight it was a tire clearance issue.
Did you want them for size or clean lines?
Yep, Love how they look when you open the hood.
Funny, take the car apart while you can drive it (summer), and then have it ready for winter LOL. :underchair:
Problem was we couldn't get it to run right and the motor needed a diaper it leaked so much. I just couldn't take it anymore.
Oh, do you even sleep? I didn't think they sold speed in Chicago :lol::lol:
Nope, not really on a good day I sleep 6 hours.
glassman
07-07-2019, 08:04 PM
:thumbsup::thumbsup:
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