Budget '69 Camaro Track Car - NO WHINERS! [Archive] - Page 3

Track Junky

03-20-2013, 09:41 AM

I checked out the local shop that was running Camaros and BMWS in the Contential tire series not to long ago. They had the coolest set up for in car adjustable sway bars. Basically the swaybar arms are square, but more like flatbar stock. They have a system to rotate the arm from the drivers seat so that if they stand the arm up complety vertical its the stiffest, and if it's rotated flat (180 degs) its at its softest. So, the arm not the bar is adjusted for the stiffness, all from the drivers seat!

are you talking about a blade, something like this?
http://ankenyracingenterprises.com/images/May%2009%20swaybar%20002.JPG

I always thought the blade set up was for splined bars. looks like that set up is welded and not splined? Pretty cool, would save time and keep you from having to get on and off the track to make adjustments but not something I want in my cockpit.

mdprovee

03-20-2013, 10:25 AM

Looking forward to seeing you out on the track. Maybe come watch you in May.

67zo6Camaro

03-20-2013, 11:12 AM

With the May Thunderhill event coming up and realizing that driving two hours to Vince's shop to work on my motor wasn't going to happen I drove down to the shop last week and picked up my motor and all the parts and pieces to put her back together.
I mentioned that I would never go back to a timing chain after breaking one at T-Hill last May so I picked up an Xceldyne belt drive. It was the first time for me ever installing a belt drive but the directions were well written and the quality of the parts and pieces were top knotch.
Got the belt drive installed and heads torqued down this weekend.

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Sweetness. Keep the updates coming. I like learning about the motor stuff.

Vince@Meanstreets

03-20-2013, 12:48 PM

chetly

03-20-2013, 12:52 PM

I always thought the blade set up was for splined bars. looks like that set up is welded and not splined? Pretty cool, would save time and keep you from having to get on and off the track to make adjustments but not something I want in my cockpit.

Yes, that setup pictured is actually for an s2000, but setups like that can be made for any vehicle. HRPWORLD.COM has all the parts to make the blade bars yourself. Or ypu could contact Guy Ankeny or Mike Maier and see what either is willing to do for you. I'll be honest, it wont be cheap. Somewhere north of $1000, but the tuning thats available through a bar like that is priceless...

intocarss

03-20-2013, 12:53 PM

you should get some synthetic assembly lube. Put that 3 in 1 stuff back in your sewing kit. LOL

Amsoil Assembly lube, I put that **** on everything. :disgusted:What do you expect from a glorified door hanger..:poke:

Track Junky

03-20-2013, 01:52 PM

you should get some synthetic assembly lube. Put that 3 in 1 stuff back in your sewing kit. LOL

Amsoil Assembly lube, I put that **** on everything. :disgusted:

Ha Ha. The 3 and One bottle was emptied and filled with motor oil per Xceldynes recommendations. :rules:

Track Junky

03-20-2013, 01:57 PM

Sweetness. Keep the updates coming. I like learning about the motor stuff.

Thanks Bret. First thing I thought about when I was posting is what a great job you do when posting up your pics and the details you note with each pic. I wanted to put a note under each pic but time prevailed.

Track Junky

03-20-2013, 01:59 PM

Looking forward to seeing you out on the track. Maybe come watch you in May.

Thanks Mike.

sixnina

03-20-2013, 03:54 PM

Thanks Mike.

Yeah it's good to see you back at it Gaetano! Did you change anything else on the motor besides the drive since you have it apart? How'd things look inside?
Shane

Track Junky

03-20-2013, 07:58 PM

Yeah it's good to see you back at it Gaetano! Did you change anything else on the motor besides the drive since you have it apart? How'd things look inside?
Shane

Thanks Shane. Other than a couple of nicks that I had to file down on the timing cover mounting face where the chain broke through the bottom of the timing cover everything looked fine. No other changes to the motor aside from the belt drive. Thats my story and I'm stickin' to it :unibrow:

intocarss

03-20-2013, 08:09 PM

No other changes to the motor aside from the belt drive. Thats my story and I'm stickin' to it :unibrow::idea:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/large02620NOS_zps81567f86.jpg

Track Junky

03-20-2013, 09:02 PM

No engine mods Jer. thinking more along the lines of this direction. Not till next year though. Unless I find a guy that can do quality paint for cheap.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/fiberglassdoors005.jpg

Payton King

03-21-2013, 08:56 AM

How much do they weigh compared to stock? Have you test fit them yet? As you can tell by my by all my questions I have been looking at doing this on my new project any insight would be appreciated.

Track Junky

03-21-2013, 12:34 PM

The fiberglass doors are from VFN and weigh 12 lbs each. I had them on the car and operable years back but took them off when I joined the PT site.(I didn't want anyone claiming unfair)Since there are other cars running them now I decided to throw them back on. The fit is factory perfect. I trimmed the lexan glass mount off the top, made some backing plates from 1/4" aluminum plate and tapped the plates for the oem hinge bolts, and there is a flange up front that slides just behind the front fender if you were to use fiberglass fenders that needs to be trimed off. You also need to cut in your latch.
I haven't weighed my steel oem doors with glass yet but I'd guess they are around 65-75 lbs each?
Once the doors are installed I should weigh in at the low 2800 lb range.

Beach Cruiser

03-21-2013, 05:24 PM

That is the blade set up I'm talking about! I thought it was pretty cool. The driver basically had two "shifter looking" nobs with a detent for the different position for each side of the bar.

Wish were on the same side of the Country so we could run against each other!

Track Junky

03-21-2013, 06:35 PM

Wish were on the same side of the Country so we could run against each other!

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. When I hit the lotto I'll ship my car over and we'll hit a few tracks on my dime. :lol:

Beach Cruiser

03-21-2013, 06:53 PM

I'm going to the DSE Summer Slam, maybe I'll get lucky and they'll feel sorry for the little guy and ship my car over to your side on thier dime for OUSCC! I'm certainaly gonna try my best with driving, and a lot of not so subtle hints that they should Pick ME!

Track Junky

03-21-2013, 06:58 PM

Vince@Meanstreets

03-22-2013, 11:01 AM

Easy with that talk, don't want to get voted off the island bub.

Track Junky

03-22-2013, 11:13 AM

I know. :sieg: Just sayin'.....Might make more sense if they changed the name to OUSTCC. Street/Track :headscratch:

Vegas69

03-22-2013, 09:52 PM

You had your chance... I wasn't ready either but the glass slipper only comes around so often. :D

Matt@BOS

03-22-2013, 10:02 PM

Oh yeah.......the OUSCC. Isn't that the race event after SEMA at Pahrump where they race "street" cars that have roll cages, fuel cells, and cup holders?:lol:

Woops, there I go again :peepwall:

Anyhow....Good luck out there. Hope you do well and get chosen.

I bet you the car that won last year drives more comfortably down the road than my daily driver.

When's your car getting a cup holder? You should probably add two so no one gives you a hard time about the doors.

Track Junky

03-22-2013, 10:06 PM

You had your chance... I wasn't ready either but the glass slipper only comes around so often. :D

I bet you the car that won last year drives more comfortably down the road than my daily driver.

When's your car getting a cup holder? You should probably add two so no one gives you a hard time about the doors.

You guys are out of my league. Cup holders would put me over budget :lol:

Rod P

03-22-2013, 11:21 PM

race "street" cars that have roll cages, fuel cells, and cup holders?:lol:

HEY! :confused59: I resemble that.......I like cup holders

Track Junky

03-22-2013, 11:27 PM

HEY! :confused59: I resemble that.......I like cup holders

Hey, I didn't say I didn't like them.......they are simply just not in the budget.

If any of you guys have ever seen my car before you know that there is absolutley no flare in the interior nor under the hood.

Simplified.......heading that direction is not even remotely close to being in the budget.

Vince@Meanstreets

03-22-2013, 11:40 PM

Hey, I didn't say I didn't like them.......they are simply just not in the budget.

If any of you guys have ever seen my car before you know that there is absolutley no flare in the interior nor under the hood.

Simplified.......heading that direction is not even remotely close to being in the budget.

yeah, I bet i'd crap then have a heart attack if you ever agreed to let me put an LS in it. LOL

Track Junky

03-22-2013, 11:49 PM

yeah, I bet i'd crap then have a heart attack if you ever agreed to let me put an LS in it. LOL

C'mon Vince, you know where I'm at. I'm not that educated about the LS motor but I feel an LS build in my budget range would be a great street motor. From what I hear making those things track worthy is not cheap.

Now on the other hand, a nice, fuel efficient LS for the white '69 is not out of the question.

Flash68

03-23-2013, 12:09 AM

You guys are out of my league. Cup holders would put me over budget :lol:

Um... hello? :hello:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALUMINUM-DRINK-HOLDER-CUP-HOLDER-WITH-1-75-ROLL-BAR-MOUNT-NASCAR-ARCA-SCA-IMC-/180864102957?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item2a1c57322d&vxp=mtr

Track Junky

03-23-2013, 12:16 AM

Um... hello? :hello:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALUMINUM-DRINK-HOLDER-CUP-HOLDER-WITH-1-75-ROLL-BAR-MOUNT-NASCAR-ARCA-SCA-IMC-/180864102957?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item2a1c57322d&vxp=mtr

Dave to the rescue :thankyou:

Thanks buddy. Now all I need is a dash pad and a little carpet work and I should fit right in. :lol:

Flash68

03-23-2013, 12:19 AM

Dave to the rescue :thankyou:

Thanks buddy. Now all I need is a dash pad and a little carpet work and I should fit right in. :lol:

I think these things are pretty cool actually and hey they are functional! :idea:

Who needs a stinkin dash pad.... or even a dash? :D

GregWeld

03-23-2013, 07:01 AM

It's not real pro touring if it doesn't have cup holders.....

Track Junky

03-23-2013, 10:10 AM

It's not real pro touring if it doesn't have cup holders.....

Thanks for the validation Greg :beathorse :lol:

Track Junky

03-23-2013, 06:05 PM

Pretty trying day. I spent ours driving to four different auto parts stores and couldn't find a piston stop. Even though absolute TDC was already determined by the previous engine builder I wanted to verify this on my own. This would also give me some peace of mind when degreeing the cam. Being short on time I decided to go with what I had. I through the balancer on and verified TDC through the balancer and pre adjusted timing tab. Then I proceeded to clean my rocker arms and verify that they were not damaged when the timing chain broke. The first thing I noticed while cleaning the rocker arms was the marring on the underside. A couple severe ones and most of them with moderate marring and a few slightly marred. In addition the roller tip on #5 intake was no longer rolling, the roller shaft on #7 intake was not rolling, and there was some resistance in the rocker shaft for #3 exhaust. Figured it was time to order 3 rocker arms and called it a day.

Here are a few pics of my son degreasing and cleaning my intake and the rocker arms.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/EngineRebuild20132001.jpg

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/EngineRebuild20132007.jpg
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Sieg

03-23-2013, 06:09 PM

I hate days like that! :warning:

Beach Cruiser

03-23-2013, 06:13 PM

My kids are so busy with thier own cars to help out dear old dad. I gotta do all the dirty work myself! Cupholders? I just used a holesaw on my trans tunnel that fits my big gulp cup and called it a day!

GregWeld

03-23-2013, 06:17 PM

Track Junky

03-23-2013, 06:29 PM

I hate days like that! :warning:

Yeah, sucks a little more only because I dont have time to work on it during the week so I lose a week. Plan was to have her wrapped up this weekend.

My kids are so busy with thier own cars to help out dear old dad. I gotta do all the dirty work myself! Cupholders? I just used a holesaw on my trans tunnel that fits my big gulp cup and called it a day!

Sounds like you got an early start Mills. My kids are 10, 12, & 14 and this is a great time. I'm trying to spend as much time with them now before they dont want to hang out with Dad anymore.
I heard that if your cup holder can hold a big gulp your a shoe in for OUSCC. :lol:

Appears to me that you have contact with the retainer.... Not an uncommon issue with the aluminum rocker arms.

Question is if the timing chain breaking had something to do with it......:headscratch:
Another thing is when the builder sent the heads back he sent them back with lash caps. I dont ever remember having lash caps but when I test fit the rocker arm with the lash cap I gained the clearance I needed.

Here's the pic's with and without lash caps.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/EngineRebuild20132002.jpg
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/EngineRebuild20132003.jpg

GregWeld

03-23-2013, 08:32 PM

Lash caps are a must for high revving motors to protect the valve tip.

Vegas69

03-23-2013, 09:29 PM

The question is, were the push rods spec'd with or without lash caps?

Track Junky

03-23-2013, 10:31 PM

Lash caps are a must for high revving motors to protect the valve tip.

Not sure I consider 6500 high reving Greg. In addition lash caps are used to correct drive train geometry.

The question is, were the push rods spec'd with or without lash caps?

In order to reach a conclusion I imagine would probably have to put together all the variables and do the math.....how much was removed from the deck of the block, piston to deck dimension, valve stem length, spring assembled height, push rod length, gasket thickness, piston to valve clearance, etc, etc..
As soon as I get the other three rocker arms I'll run the drive train through it's motions and do a little more investigating.

intocarss

03-24-2013, 03:36 AM

Appears to me that you have contact with the retainer.... Not an uncommon issue with the aluminum rocker arms.

Make sure you check the rocker arm to retainer clearance. There should be at least .040” to .050” clearance at the closest point under the rocker arm and the top of the retainer.

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/file-24.gif ^^^THIS^^^

It's not the proper way... but sometimes you have to grind some on alum rockers to clearence big OD retainers and springs Or install lash caps or longer tipped valves or different retainers if "installed hights" can still be achieved correctly

Question is if the timing chain breaking had something to do with it......:headscratch:

If you're asking If the rockers hitting the retainers due to chain breakage The answer is...very unlikely..Hard to tell by the pics, Those look like they've been hitting for a while

[QUOTE=Track Junky;471911]Not sure I consider 6500 high reving Greg. In addition lash caps are used to correct drive train geometry.

and or correct length push rods

In order to reach a conclusion I imagine would probably have to put together all the variables and do the math.....how much was removed from the deck of the block, piston to deck dimension, valve stem length, spring assembled height, push rod length, gasket thickness, piston to valve clearance, etc, etc..
As soon as I get the other three rocker arms I'll run the drive train through it's motions and do a little more investigating.

What exactly are you trying to figure out?? PM me if you like

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In this pic, is the roller on the rocker that far back on the valve tip w/ the valve closed, is there lash?? If so your push rods are wrong or that rocker is hitting the retainer and pushing it back

Here is a dumb video but will give you an idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnS46ahJVqI

A couple of write ups

http://www.compcams.com/Products/CC-%27Pushrods%27-0.aspx

http://www.circletrack.com/techarticles/ctrp_0609_pushrod_length/viewall.html

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/EngineRebuild20132002_zps94ed6cb9.jpg

Beach Cruiser

03-24-2013, 08:32 AM

Sounds like you got an early start Mills. My kids are 10, 12, & 14 and this is a great time. I'm trying to spend as much time with them now before they dont want to hang out with Dad anymore.
I heard that if your cup holder can hold a big gulp your a shoe in for OUSCC. :lol:

Lol! Think I'll put one in just for fun! My two boys are 21 and 19, We have more fun now than when they were young! Only the toys cost a bit more! Each has a Honda track only car, plus a few other DD's Grandpa owns a Honda Stealership, I ain't got that kinda cash! Hope you get the motor done today. I don't know how many days I've wasted running around sat looking for parts/tools!

GregWeld

03-24-2013, 08:52 AM

Not sure I consider 6500 high reving Greg. In addition lash caps are used to correct drive train geometry.

In order to reach a conclusion I imagine would probably have to put together all the variables and do the math.....how much was removed from the deck of the block, piston to deck dimension, valve stem length, spring assembled height, push rod length, gasket thickness, piston to valve clearance, etc, etc..
As soon as I get the other three rocker arms I'll run the drive train through it's motions and do a little more investigating.

I hope you're just going to set the head on the block and use a push rod checker to check for the proper length.... At least that's how I check for proper VALVE TRAIN (I use a different tool for DRIVE trains) geometry. No real math needed using a push rod checker.

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Track Junky

03-24-2013, 09:54 AM

It's not the proper way... but sometimes you have to grind some on alum rockers to clearence big OD retainers and springs Or install lash caps or longer tipped valves or different retainers if "installed hights" can still be achieved correctly

Thank Jer, I was not aware that engine builders sometimes have to grind on the rocker arms.

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Question is if the timing chain breaking had something to do with it......:headscratch:

If you're asking If the rockers hitting the retainers due to chain breakage The answer is...very unlikely..Hard to tell by the pics, Those look like they've been hitting for a while

I agree Jer. After further observation it's pretty obvious.

What exactly are you trying to figure out?? PM me if you like

Trying to figure out why the rocker arm is hitting the retainer and why the engine builder did not catch this.

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In this pic, is the roller on the rocker that far back on the valve tip w/ the valve closed, is there lash?? If so your push rods are wrong or that rocker is hitting the retainer and pushing it back

Stand by, the pic your refering to has not shown itself this time around
OK I see it now. In that pic #1 is at TDC and both valves are closed so to answer your question, yes. I hadn't checked lash yet as I was trying to figure out if I was going to need the lash caps or not.(Seriously do not recall having lash caps when I pulled the heads off)Obviously I do. I'll have to run down this morning and confirm but If I go with a longer pushrod I'm not sure I will be grabbing enough of the rocker stud.

Here is a dumb video but will give you an idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnS46ahJVqI

A couple of write ups

http://www.compcams.com/Products/CC-%27Pushrods%27-0.aspx

http://www.circletrack.com/techarticles/ctrp_0609_pushrod_length/viewall.html

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/EngineRebuild20132002_zps94ed6cb9.jpg

Thanks Jer :thumbsup:

Track Junky

03-24-2013, 10:09 AM

I hope you're just going to set the head on the block and use a push rod checker to check for the proper length.... At least that's how I check for proper VALVE TRAIN (I use a different tool for DRIVE trains) geometry. No real math needed using a push rod checker.

Thanks Greg. I will order that tool this morning :thumbsup:

Just hopeing a longer pushrod will allow me to grab enough of the rocker stud. Current pushrods are 8.00 in length.

Vince@Meanstreets

03-24-2013, 11:30 AM

I believe those marks are from clearencing done by the machinist. But I do see one that looks stressed. I think its the one that Greg sees too. Remember this engine was rotated with a few valves stuck down. Could explain this.

Inspect them Geatano and replace or fix the ones that look hammered.

pretty easy to check push rod with white grease and a caliper. if need be buy longer studs

Track Junky

03-24-2013, 12:21 PM

Here is a better view with the spec'd .026 lash. I used a sharpie to black out the top of the lash cap and verify where the roller tip was engaging the lash cap. Looks like it is just behind center.
At this time I'm grabbing about 3/8"-7/16" of the rocker arm bolt.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/RockerArmInvestigation001.jpg
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/RockerArmInvestigation004.jpg

intocarss

03-24-2013, 12:30 PM

What's it look like without lash?

Track Junky

03-24-2013, 02:11 PM

Got a little motivated and decided to adjust all the valves that I could minus the 3 rocker arms I am replacing that should arrive on Tuesday. I use the quarter crank turn method to adjust valves and decided to put the degree wheel to work for accuracy. Bolted a clothes hanger wire at the water pump boss, installed the degree wheel, and set up the clothes hanger pointer to point to zero. With #1 at TDC I adjusted the intake and exhaust valves with spec'd lash, turned the crank 90*, and then moved on to #8 and so on. The cam I am using has an LS firing order. It has 108 lobe seperation and intake center line is at 104. That means that if I was to line up the dots of the crank and cam gears(setting the cam straight up) I would already be 4* advanced. Advance will give you a little more torque on the bottom end and retarded will shift power to the top end. The beauty of this belt drive set up is that I can adjust up to 4* either way on the fly. Just need to loosen the four bolts on the cam cover and rotate left or right. Degreeing in the cam is best done on a dyno and dialed in for your desired rpm range. I am going to set it up 2* advanced for now per engine builders specs. Once all rockers are installed I'll recheck valve train geometry. Then it will be off to the dyno.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/AdjustingValves1003.jpg
http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/AdjustingValves1005.jpg

Vince@Meanstreets

03-27-2013, 02:09 AM

Did you find a dyno tuner or are we going to Pecavar?

Track Junky

03-27-2013, 08:39 AM

Need a phone number for Pecavar. Considering Watson also. I'd like to take a little field trip and visit the both of them. Not a whole lot of info on the web about either of them.

Vince@Meanstreets

04-02-2013, 12:50 AM

just sent you an email

sixnina

04-21-2013, 11:37 PM

Gaetano,
So did you ever get your motor on the dyno ?
Did you have to clearance any of the rockers?
Shane

Track Junky

04-22-2013, 11:39 AM

Hi Shane, haven't been updating due to my personal lap top crashing and my only access is the desk top at work.
Joe met me at Vinces Friday night and he told me he wouldn't dyno tune the motor without verifying T.D.C and where the cam was at so we pulled the head off again and Joe and I degreed the cam on Saturday. Dyno rescheduled for May 4th.

Flash68

04-26-2013, 05:29 PM

Track Junky

04-26-2013, 08:53 PM

I told the company I'm working for that my personal lap top crashed so they shipped me one.:thumbsup:

Dave, dyno is in San Mateo. Joe and I were talking about the numbers the engine was originally putting out and he says he can get me more. We are scheduled to dyno next weekend. We will be making some changes next season. Initially it will be camshaft.....the rest will depend on the budget at the time.

Come to find out, Joe made it to the final four in Pinks when they were out at Sonoma Raceway.

Track Junky

04-26-2013, 09:51 PM

Where is this dyno, G?

You got a number you are looking for? Don't lie.... :D

BTW, it's not the horsepower you will need to worry about....it will be the weight :unibrow:

Flash68

04-26-2013, 10:39 PM

BTW, it's not the horsepower you will need to worry about....it will be the weight :unibrow:

Oh I know... and that pesky driver too. :walkingdog:

What's your weight down to these days? (not yours, the car) :D

Track Junky

04-26-2013, 10:47 PM

Oh I know... and that pesky driver too. :walkingdog:

What's your weight down to these days? (not yours, the car) :D

3030 lbs for now.........should be a scoshe(spell check?) over 2800 by the time your car will be done next season :unibrow:

I'm chompin at the bit to get out this season:hairpullout:........

Flash68

04-26-2013, 11:38 PM

3030 lbs for now.........should be a scoshe(spell check?) over 2800 by the time your car will be done next season :unibrow:

I'm chompin at the bit to get out this season:hairpullout:........

Yeah I bet you are... what weekend you gunnin for this summer as of now? Can you make a May event?

Track Junky

04-27-2013, 12:34 AM

I can make May 18th but it would be without my shocks(Two week build time after submitting info) so it would be pointless to go out and try to tune but I was invited out to a Track Masters event the day before so I might just take her out just to see how the engine feels.

I'll get back to tuning suspension in June with NCRC.

If you can make it out on the 17th you should. I'd like to introduce you to these guys. My buddy Bret has a killer car collection and builds Camaro's back to original condition down to every nut and bolt.

intocarss

04-27-2013, 09:24 AM

You got a number you are looking for? Don't lie.... :D:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Sieg

04-27-2013, 10:53 AM

BTW, it's not the horsepower you will need to worry about....it will be the weight :unibrow:

5.3 & 5.6 would be a good and affordable numbers. :thumbsup:

Track Junky

04-27-2013, 11:22 AM

5.3 & 5.6 would be a good and affordable numbers. :thumbsup:

I assume your talking power to weight ratios Siegy and if that is the case I'm shooting for the 4.5 range with me in the car for next season. This season I should be around the 5.1 range.

sixnina

04-27-2013, 10:35 PM

Flash68

04-27-2013, 11:57 PM

Sieg

04-28-2013, 06:18 AM

I assume your talking power to weight ratios Siegy and if that is the case I'm shooting for the 4.5 range with me in the car for next season. This season I should be around the 5.1 range.Yes Sir......I figured my to the ground numbers would be just good enough FTW! :D

Track Junky

04-28-2013, 09:10 AM

G, What shock setup are you going with? You changing the leafs too?
Shane

Going to Penske 7500 DA's. They are a rebuildable shock with rebound and compression adjustments with a shrader valve for nitrogen that will take from 50 to 250 lbs. Truth is I should go with higher rate springs in the rear but I'm hoping to add spring rate via nitrogen. Not the recommended way to go but we'll see how it works. In addition there is a guy local to me that can do all the valving changes to them for me if needed.

You mean June 17? If so, count me in. :thumbsup:

I was talking May. Track Masters always takes the Fridays before the NASA weekend events. My buddy Bret was a miultiple SCCA champ from back in the day and he was going to have me chase him around the track. He's running in the 1:57 lap time range. Although I just talked to Vince last night and with his work load he's not 100% sure we will be ready.

Yes Sir......I figured my to the ground numbers would be just good enough FTW! :D

Gotcha buddy, good point :thumbsup: I'll post the numbers we got at the crank after this Saturday. I can get rear wheel numbers out at Sonoma Raceway for $99.
I'll keep ya'll posted.

Flash68

05-12-2013, 09:45 PM

Dyno rescheduled for May 4th.

:whistling:

intocarss

05-12-2013, 10:08 PM

Forgot all about this, thanks Flash!!

HEY TRACKY !!! :warning:

Flash68

05-12-2013, 10:31 PM

Forgot all about this, thanks Flash!!

HEY TRACKY !!! :warning:

I finally beat you on one eh? :D

intocarss

05-12-2013, 11:26 PM

Yeah ya did :bump:

Track Junky

05-13-2013, 03:55 PM

Dyno went well. I'm at work. I'll post details when I get home.

intocarss

05-13-2013, 04:03 PM

Dyno went well. I'm at work. I'll post details when I get home.

:hello: :hapdance: :excited: :woot: :dance: :rockin: :cheering: :_party: :beavis:

Sieg

05-13-2013, 04:38 PM

Dyno went well. I'm at work. I'll post details when I get home.

http://www.lat34.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dynomite.jpg

sik68

05-13-2013, 05:24 PM

:popcorn2: :whistling: :drool:

intocarss

05-13-2013, 05:49 PM

I hope you took video!!! :smiley_smack:

Vince@Meanstreets

05-13-2013, 07:15 PM

I hope you took video!!! :smiley_smack:

That was the easy part, posting is going to be a stretch for him.

Rick D

05-13-2013, 08:56 PM

Ok it's almost 10:00 pm here 8:00 your time where's the update :warning: you've gotta be done with work!! :D

intocarss

05-13-2013, 09:34 PM

He's busy texting :hairpullout:

Track Junky

05-13-2013, 10:21 PM

Hang tight fellas. I've got photos, and vids to down load and my 12 hour work days tend to get in the way.

I'll leave you with this for now......we spent 6 hours and dynoed with intake lobe center at 104, 106, and 108 degrees, used three different carbs, two sets of headers, and made 23 pulls.

Not a whole lot of difference between the different set ups to constitute a change and all info still needs to be transfered onto a flash drive that I would like to filter through.

HP and torque came in a little lower on this dyno which was a bit disappointing and mostly on the hp side but as we all know all dynos are different among other variables. The cam was originally installed at 106 intake lobe center and we ended up setting the motor up with the cam straight up at 108. HP came in at 597 at 6300 rpm as opposd to the original 620, and torque came in at 557 at 4700 rpm's as opposed to when it was originally dynoed at 561 at 5000 rpm.

Thanks guys.....photos and vid to follow.

GregWeld

05-13-2013, 10:25 PM

Gae ---- Glad you started out with a whole lot of whining....:rolleyes: :D

Glad to hear you had a good time... that's a lot of dyno thrashing!

Vince@Meanstreets

05-13-2013, 11:05 PM

do you think you have room over the axle to run 3.5 inch tubing all the way out?

im running a bbc 540 and wanted it to really breath so bought 3.5, but i didn't buy U section to go over the axle cuz i didn't think it would fit. it looks like you have plenty of room! thx, rm

You can get a 3.5" 180 U bend, it should be a breeze.

intocarss

05-13-2013, 11:12 PM

Sounds good Tracky!! 23 pulls dam!! I love it and i bet you learned a lot

Waiting for vids and pics :relax:

Flash68

05-13-2013, 11:14 PM

Track Junky

05-14-2013, 06:36 PM

Gae ---- Glad you started out with a whole lot of whining....:rolleyes: :D

Glad to hear you had a good time... that's a lot of dyno thrashing!

One more "whining" comment out of you mister and I'm going to remind everyone who fueled that little statement to be added to my thread title. :catfight:

All kidding aside, thanks Greg. It definitely was a good time. :thumbsup:

Track Junky

05-14-2013, 06:39 PM

that front clip is awesome... how much weight does it take off the front of the car, and what did it cost? thx, rm

Front clip without bumpers knoked off close to 90 lbs and it was $2200 shipped from the one and only MCB :thumbsup:

do you think you have room over the axle to run 3.5 inch tubing all the way out?

im running a bbc 540 and wanted it to really breath so bought 3.5, but i didn't buy U section to go over the axle cuz i didn't think it would fit. it looks like you have plenty of room! thx, rm

3.5's shouldn't be a problem

Track Junky

05-14-2013, 06:53 PM

Sounds good Tracky!! 23 pulls dam!! I love it and i bet you learned a lot

Waiting for vids and pics :relax:

Hey you know that is just for tuning purposes and you got that done. The real numbers that matter are those lap times at T-Hill and Sonoma. :thumbsup:

Keep me posted on when you are getting out. I am there.

Yup, 23 pulls......seems like lots of thrashing but she seemed to hold up well. Joe's a solid guy and taught me quite a bit.

To be honest, the thing I'm happiest about most is she didn't leak a drop of oil.

Vince finished up the sway bar sliders weeks ago and we were going to drop motor in last weekend but figured it was best to spend Mothers Day with the wives rather than be in the dog house on Monday. On top of that he's buried and there isn't any room in the shop. We decided on Memorial Day weekend to drop the motor in and hopefully wrap up the sway bar deal.
Track day schedule pushed to June 30th at T-Hill with NCRC. I'm sure when Vince see's June 30th he'll breathe a sigh of relief. :lol:

89 RS

05-14-2013, 08:55 PM

Good to hear Gaetano, sounds like a solid motor. Look forward to some pics and a video or two.

intocarss

05-14-2013, 10:12 PM

I'm Really Happy For You Track X..

Sieg

05-14-2013, 10:23 PM

Glad to hear the positive progress Gaetano! :thumbsup:

T-Hill, Casa Ramos, June 30th.........Hmmm, that could be a real good target for a Norwood road trip if the stars by chance align.

sik68

05-14-2013, 11:13 PM

Sweet Gaetano! Car is gonna be a blast. I'll see if I can make the 30th too, I wanna see it run. :Tomcat:

Flash68

05-15-2013, 01:40 AM

Track day schedule pushed to June 30th at T-Hill with NCRC. I'm sure when Vince see's June 30th he'll breathe a sigh of relief. :lol:

T-Hill, Casa Ramos, June 30th.........Hmmm, that could be a real good target for a Norwood road trip if the stars by chance align.

Sweet Gaetano! Car is gonna be a blast. I'll see if I can make the 30th too, I wanna see it run. :Tomcat:

I like this June 30 deal.... :popcorn2:

intocarss

05-15-2013, 01:32 PM

I like this June 30 deal.... :popcorn2: Ya think he'll get the videos posted by then? :snapout:

Track Junky

05-15-2013, 01:43 PM

Ya think he'll get the videos posted by then? :snapout:

I can probably get some pics up soon(currently stored in the computer at work) but video wont go up until after Memorial Day Weekend. Need to still retrieve it off of Garard's(dyno shop owner) Go Pro.

I've got a few extra minutes here at work....let me see if I can tranfer pics to Photobucket and post.

Track Junky

05-15-2013, 01:56 PM

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/EngineDyno10.jpg

Track Junky

05-15-2013, 01:58 PM

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/EngineDyno9.jpg

Track Junky

05-15-2013, 02:01 PM

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/EngineDyno1.jpg

Track Junky

05-15-2013, 02:08 PM

Good to hear Gaetano, sounds like a solid motor. Look forward to some pics and a video or two.

Thanks Corey. Great to hear from you, seems it's been awhile.

I'm Really Happy For You Track X..

Glad to hear the positive progress Gaetano! :thumbsup:

T-Hill, Casa Ramos, June 30th.........Hmmm, that could be a real good target for a Norwood road trip if the stars by chance align.

Sweet Gaetano! Car is gonna be a blast. I'll see if I can make the 30th too, I wanna see it run. :Tomcat:

Thanks guys. I'll start planning pit crew duties. :lol:

intocarss

05-15-2013, 02:14 PM

Looks nice G thanks

Always bring your own video camera or phone to film @ the dyno....YOU ROOKIE

Track Junky

05-15-2013, 06:35 PM

Looks nice G thanks

Always bring your own video camera or phone to film @ the dyno....YOU ROOKIE

:lol: :lol: :lol:

89 RS

05-15-2013, 09:29 PM

Thanks Corey. Great to hear from you, seems it's been awhile.

Great to hear from you also. I'm finally getting back into a groove with relocating for my job and everything else going on. It's good to be back on here and see everybody's progress. Looks like your ride is about to be back into business. :cheers:

Vince@Meanstreets

05-19-2013, 12:26 AM

Great to hear from you also. I'm finally getting back into a groove with relocating for my job and everything else going on. It's good to be back on here and see everybody's progress. Looks like your ride is about to be back into business. :cheers:

13 days and counting

Rick D

05-19-2013, 05:53 AM

Nice numbers Gae, but I'm with Jer, Rookie, no camera :headscratch: can't wait here the and see the start up video? I'm sure Vince will have a video camera handy :hello:

Vince@Meanstreets

05-19-2013, 10:51 AM

Nice numbers Gae, but I'm with Jer, Rookie, no camera :headscratch: can't wait here the and see the start up video? I'm sure Vince will have a video camera handy :hello:

Im thinking our iPhones and a head mounted go pro during the Saturday thrash should keep everyone happy.

intocarss

05-19-2013, 10:59 AM

Im thinking our iPhones and a head mounted go pro during the Saturday thrash should keep everyone happy.Great :idea:

Ron in SoCal

05-19-2013, 11:56 AM

Im thinking our iPhones and a head mounted go pro during the Saturday thrash should keep everyone happy.

Might as well stream it live, beer drinking cussing and all :idea:

Rick D

05-19-2013, 12:59 PM

Might as well stream it live, beer drinking cussing and all :idea:

Now this guy is thinking :idea: oh wait maybe we should get the same from his car at BOS??? Ron :action-smiley-027: :hello: :relax:

Track Junky

05-19-2013, 06:11 PM

Might as well stream it live, beer drinking cussing and all :idea:

LOL, .....only this wasn't "Can you tune faster than a redneck". We aren''t that advanced yet. It takes years of tuning experience before you can drink beers, cuss, and say F'it thats good before you reach that stage. :lol:

intocarss

05-19-2013, 08:26 PM

Deadpool, FE Torino AND BMF will be all done and turning 1.90 lap times at Thunderhill before we ever get to see this vid :twak:

Track Junky

05-21-2013, 10:00 PM

Jer, If l mail you the flash drive can you post them for me. I just dont have the time nor the patience.

intocarss

05-21-2013, 10:02 PM

Jer, If l mail you the flash drive can you post them for me. I just dont have the time nor the patience. of course

Track Junky

05-21-2013, 10:06 PM

Thanks Bro......pm me your address.

Sieg

05-21-2013, 10:30 PM

Jer, If l mail you the flash drive can you post them for me. I just dont have the time nor the patience.

of course
Modern day technology delivered via USPS.............:sieg:

:snapout:

intocarss

05-21-2013, 10:31 PM

Modern day technology delivered via USPS.............:sieg:

:snapout: We are old school Tracky and I :flag2:

Sieg

05-21-2013, 11:18 PM

We are old school Tracky and I :flag2:

Oh the comments I'm withholding regarding this transfer of electronic data...........if only I didn't have a carb and leaf springs. :sieg:

USPS will probably destroy the flash drive and we'll all still be hanging. :D

intocarss

05-21-2013, 11:21 PM

Oh the comments I'm withholding regarding this transfer of electronic data...........if only I didn't have a carb and leaf springs. :sieg:

USPS will probably destroy the flash drive and we'll all still be hanging. :D:knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood: :knokwood:

Vince@Meanstreets

05-21-2013, 11:42 PM

Might as well stream it live, beer drinking cussing and all :idea:

I did have a live web cam but everyone signed off thinking the picture froze. Yes, I was working. :knokwood:

Flash68

05-21-2013, 11:59 PM

You just got an iphone but you are snail mailing a flash drive across the state.

Shirley... you can't be serious.

intocarss

05-22-2013, 02:45 PM

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OH COME ON :twak: YOU KNEW THIS WAS COMING

Vince@Meanstreets

05-26-2013, 12:42 AM

It was a pretty hectic day today but Gaetano managed to get his engine and trans in with out a hitch. Proof of life photos.

Sieg

05-26-2013, 12:51 AM

:cheering:

:thumbsup:

Rick D

05-26-2013, 05:48 AM

Nice Gae now getter done!!:hello:

GregWeld

05-26-2013, 06:42 AM

Nice --- BTW Who has the sack to wear a PT.Com shirt and then post the pics on Lat-G???

:disgusted: :whistling: :lol: :lol: :lol:

intocarss

05-26-2013, 07:31 AM

I take it Vinnie is doing the work and Gae is taking the pics then Vinne posted them :D

Congrats on getting it back together

Rick D

05-26-2013, 07:31 AM

Nice --- BTW Who has the sack to wear a PT.Com shirt and then post the pics on Lat-G???

:disgusted: :whistling: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nice catch Greg!

No soup for the PT.COM shirt wearer!!! :mock:

GregWeld

05-26-2013, 07:36 AM

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/file-31.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Fun%20Fotos/file-31.jpg.html)

89 RS

05-26-2013, 08:58 AM

Gaetano, you're back in business by the looks of it. :thumbsup:

Vince@Meanstreets

05-26-2013, 11:37 AM

Nice --- BTW Who has the sack to wear a PT.Com shirt and then post the pics on Lat-G???

:disgusted: :whistling: :lol: :lol: :lol:

haaa haaa but at least he is wearing a "I Love Weld hat" on. :grouphug:

Thats actually the infamous Zbugger from P-T. com lending a hand. I doubt anyone would catch my mug on the webs. :guns:

Vince@Meanstreets

05-26-2013, 11:44 AM

Gaetano, you're back in business by the looks of it. :thumbsup:

couple more hours today and it will be ready to light it off. :headspin:

Track Junky

05-27-2013, 01:06 PM

Thanks Guys. A few more details and we should be good to go.

Jer, didn't have time to hit the dyno shop up for a copy of the vid. Next weekend should be a little less hectic.

intocarss

05-27-2013, 01:49 PM

Thanks Guys. A few more details and we should be good to go.

Jer, didn't have time to hit the dyno shop up for a copy of the vid. Next weekend should be a little less hectic. It's all good!! I'd rather see it together and racing!! Video some test hot laps out in the street

sixnina

05-27-2013, 03:53 PM

Way to stay on top of it Gaetano. I'm glad to see you making progress.:hello:
Shane

Vince@Meanstreets

05-27-2013, 08:35 PM

I will email Gaetano pictures of my progress this week. Still have the rear sway bar mounts, battery tray, battery case and wiring to do.

Track Junky

05-27-2013, 10:19 PM

Way to stay on top of it Gaetano. I'm glad to see you making progress.:hello:
Shane

Thanks Shane. Great to hear from ya. :cheers:

I will email Gaetano pictures of my progress this week. Still have the rear sway bar mounts, battery tray, battery case and wiring to do.

Thanks Vince. Looking forward to seeing how your going to make that work.
Almost there Bubba. :cheers:

Track Junky

06-03-2013, 10:47 PM

Where the F is Vince with my updated photos.

Ready to rock T-Hill on the 30th!! :guns:

Sieg

06-03-2013, 11:03 PM

Where the F is Vince with my updated photos.

Ready to rock T-Hill on the 30th!! :guns:
Relax, it's just about done and it's gonna handle the 11/12 transition like it's on rails! T2 & 3 could be tricky though!

http://www.widescreenwallpapers.org/wallpapers/preview/car-town-69-orange-camaro-1.jpg

Rick D

06-04-2013, 04:46 AM

Yeah Vince?? :poke:

:ttiwop: :whistling:

Track Junky

06-04-2013, 06:45 PM

Relax, it's just about done and it's gonna handle the 11/12 transition like it's on rails! T2 & 3 could be tricky though!

Actually Mr Siegmeister I will be working on trying to carry more speed through 1 & 8 :unibrow:

Sieg

06-04-2013, 07:03 PM

Actually Mr Siegmeister I will be working on trying to carry more speed through 1 & 8 :unibrow:
Start with carry more speed out of 15 and 7 :hello:

1 & 8 are definitely "speed-slots" :unibrow:

I've never came close to nailing 14-15, that section had my number. :bang:

Flash68

06-05-2013, 10:41 AM

Sieg, just come on down and show us all how to drive T-Hill..... since Greg doesn't have a clue what he is doing on that track. :whistling:

Sieg

06-05-2013, 11:36 AM

Sieg, just come on down and show us all how to drive T-Hill..... since Greg doesn't have a clue what he is doing on that track. :whistling:

One problem.........never driven a car there! All my track experience is on bikes, I can't wait to see how 4 wheels changes perceptions. Braking point habits are my main concern :ohsnap: two markers too late!..........catch ya on the next lap, unless it's turn 10.........see ya next year when it's fixed. :D

Track Junky

06-05-2013, 07:56 PM

Start with carry more speed out of 15 and 7 :hello:

1 & 8 are definitely "speed-slots" :unibrow:

I've never came close to nailing 14-15, that section had my number. :bang:

Carrying more speed out of 15 shouldn't and hopefully wont be a problem. Setting up for 1 after trying to sqeeze as much speed as possible going into 1 is a different story and I think my problem. I'm so concerned about getting a high speed off the long straight from 15 to 1 I'm failing to set up properly. Turn 8 is a whole nother animal. After coming out of seven its important to settle the chasis and use all of 8. Per past instruction I have been told to tap brakes to settle chassis in between 7 & 8 before driving through 8 and thats whats throwing me off because the point at which your supposed to tap brakes is a bit of a distance before you hit 8.
Wish me luck guys. I'm already :brix: my pants. Goal lap times this time around will be in the 2:02 range.

GregWeld

06-05-2013, 09:16 PM

I go as fast as I possibly can -- when I spin -- Then I know I've gone faster than I should have....

So easy....

GregWeld

06-05-2013, 09:18 PM

Sieg, just come on down and show us all how to drive T-Hill..... since Greg doesn't have a clue what he is doing on that track. :whistling:

You're going to have to leave Sieggie alone -- he's a stay at home Dad now and needs his chores done before he can come out and play!

Trust me -- I was there.... When the wife is working... You'd better do as she says!

Sieg

06-05-2013, 10:09 PM

Carrying more speed out of 15 shouldn't and hopefully wont be a problem. Setting up for 1 after trying to sqeeze as much speed as possible going into 1 is a different story and I think my problem. I'm so concerned about getting a high speed off the long straight from 15 to 1 I'm failing to set up properly. Turn 8 is a whole nother animal. After coming out of seven its important to settle the chasis and use all of 8. Per past instruction I have been told to tap brakes to settle chassis in between 7 & 8 before driving through 8 and thats whats throwing me off because the point at which your supposed to tap brakes is a bit of a distance before you hit 8.
Wish me luck guys. I'm already :brix: my pants. Goal lap times this time around will be in the 2:02 range.
My issue with 14/15 on bikes is the seam in the surface (read curb) it was right at what I felt was the ideal apex and I could never find a shallow line that would generate drive out of 15, the deep line over the seam upset the chassis enough that you were wide on exit or feathering throttle trying to keep from going wide. :bang:

Entering 1 on the bike was keep it pinned past the tower and turn in to into the pit lane once past the pit lane wall stab the brakes and turn it in and get on the throttle.

If I'm not mistaken the key to a stable chassis going into 8 starts will nailing 6's apex/exit so you can pin 7 and pray through 8......:D

With the bike a slight lift to trailing throttle going into 8 was enough to maintain confidence. (does that bank look scarier in car than a bike, not sure which would be worse?) That corner is a rush when you get it close to right............so are 9 a & b pinning to toward the horizon, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, etc........what a great track!!

Don't worry G, you'll do fine, get used to the new stuff in the am then focus on having a good time maximizing your lines on the track..........not the infield. :D

Sieg

06-05-2013, 10:16 PM

You're going to have to leave Sieggie alone -- he's a stay at home Dad now and needs his chores done before he can come out and play!

Trust me -- I was there.... When the wife is working... You'd better do as she says!
Oh paaaaalease! Buy a Mustang, go to a couple of driving schools, and think you're going to take me down driving my wife's minivan at T-Hill? You may be right........... :mock:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-05-2013, 11:16 PM

One problem.........never driven a car there! All my track experience is on bikes, I can't wait to see how 4 wheels changes perceptions. Braking point habits are my main concern :ohsnap: two markers too late!..........catch ya on the next lap, unless it's turn 10.........see ya next year when it's fixed. :D

bull cheezy, its like riding a... bike..ahh never mind

Vince@Meanstreets

06-05-2013, 11:19 PM

Track Junky

06-06-2013, 07:53 AM

My issue with 14/15 on bikes is the seam in the surface (read curb) it was right at what I felt was the ideal apex and I could never find a shallow line that would generate drive out of 15, the deep line over the seam upset the chassis enough that you were wide on exit or feathering throttle trying to keep from going wide. :bang:

Entering 1 on the bike was keep it pinned past the tower and turn in to into the pit lane once past the pit lane wall stab the brakes and turn it in and get on the throttle.

If I'm not mistaken the key to a stable chassis going into 8 starts will nailing 6's apex/exit so you can pin 7 and pray through 8......:D

With the bike a slight lift to trailing throttle going into 8 was enough to maintain confidence. (does that bank look scarier in car than a bike, not sure which would be worse?) That corner is a rush when you get it close to right............so are 9 a & b pinning to toward the horizon, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, etc........what a great track!!

Don't worry G, you'll do fine, get used to the new stuff in the am then focus on having a good time maximizing your lines on the track..........not the infield. :D

Thanks Sieg. Your memory serves you well. I can see how the surface on the outside in between 14 and 15 would make it difficult for a bike.

You also nailed 6,7, & 8. 6 isn't bad, its the transition from 7 and getting through 8 that has me puckering and pray is putting it lightly.

Sounds like we take turn 1 exactly the same only I want to try and lay off of the brake a bit more than I have been.

I honestly feel I'm losing a good 1 second through 1 and a good 1 second through 8. Nailing those two turns should help me achieve my goals. If Vince and I have set up that rear sway bar correctly and I nail my alignment I'm hoping to surpass my initial target lap times goals.

Sieg

06-06-2013, 08:35 AM

One the bike I was only hitting about 135-138 on the front straight (thanks to 14/15), if memory does serve me well the end of the pit wall was the off the throttle marker, I tried to brake and downshift early to get the suspension settled and back on the throttle at turn in and somewhat aggressive on the throttle through the apex. I think the apex speed was "around" 85-95 mph hitting about 110-115 mph before T2

So my braking and throttle applications were slightly earlier than other turns.

T8 was a downshift and trailing throttle setting up for the apex with no brake since the V-twins I was riding have a reasonable amount of engine braking.

Don't know if that helps or is applicable for a car?

I know one thing for sure............I'd love to have four tires on the ground through T3! No trust of that corner whatsoever on a bike, especially with the deteriorating surface on the inside racing line. <Insert chicken sounds here>

chr2002ca

06-06-2013, 09:13 AM

That air box is looking good.

intocarss

06-06-2013, 04:29 PM

i'll get something up soon, had a parts delay on another project so it put me off a bit.

hey, we got his airbox to fit with the addition of the 2" spacer. Someone should help me find a lip seal that will work. edit....similar to this.. I like that air box! INMOHO I don't like the MSD boxes up on the firewall, To much heat and heat is what kills them

Rick D

06-06-2013, 05:55 PM

Almost there Gae!! When are we going to see that start up video??

Flash68

06-06-2013, 05:58 PM

When are we going to see that start up video??

We're not. :poke:

Sieg

06-06-2013, 05:58 PM

I like that air box! I found that interesting as well, how did that piece come into existence?

intocarss

06-06-2013, 06:29 PM

I found that interesting as well, how did that piece come into existence?

Didn't Vinnie make it??

Track Junky

06-06-2013, 06:32 PM

I like that air box! INMOHO I don't like the MSD boxes up on the firewall, To much heat and heat is what kills them

Me neither Jer....it's on the list of things to do. I have the new 6AL box that MSD just came out with. It's a plug in deal and comes with extra wiring for longer runs. Eventually I will install it inside the car.

Almost there Gae!! When are we going to see that start up video??

We're not. :poke:

I promise I'll get you guys some vids. Between work, family, and the car things have been real busy. I'll be picking the car up this Saturday. Hoping to get the dyno vid at that time. I'll ask Vince to vid the fire up session before loading it in the trailor. Hell, if he'll let me I'll spin some brodies in the parking lot before she loads. :unibrow:

I found that interesting as well, how did that piece come into existence?

The air box is carbon fiber and came with a lid. It's one of those deals you'd see on a K&N or ARCA series car. I've was using it with the lid but this time around we installed a 2" HVH carb spacer so the hood wouldn't close with the lid. A few modifications later we were able to still use the pan. Now we just need to find or get the box to hood sealer.

intocarss

06-06-2013, 06:51 PM

"I'll spin some brodies in the parking" YOU ARE OLD SCHOOL

Track Junky

06-06-2013, 07:46 PM

intocarss

06-06-2013, 09:06 PM

Track Junky

06-06-2013, 09:12 PM

Doh!!:sieg:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-06-2013, 11:51 PM

That air box is looking good.

Thanks for the heads up on the seal Chris, I was on my iphone earlier and typing a reply is a pain when your hanging upside down under a dash. I appreciate it.

Actually Sieg I was joking....remember the saying. "Its like riding a bike"

:welcome3:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-07-2013, 12:00 AM

I like that air box! INMOHO I don't like the MSD boxes up on the firewall, To much heat and heat is what kills them

I've been trying to get it mounted to his trans tunnel but the honeydo list is pretty long.

Managed to lose some weight and move a bunch near center.

Its coming along.

Sieg

06-07-2013, 12:00 AM

Actually Sieg I was joking....remember the saying. "Its like riding a bike"
Understood it :thumbsup:

Just attempting to share perceptions with Gae that might help shave lap time. I'm looking forward to taking some laps as a co-pilot to see and feel the difference between 2 & 4 wheels at T-Hill.

Vince@Meanstreets

06-07-2013, 12:02 AM

I think brodies was used a couple of generations after me. I normally say donuts and would have used that term but I think the youngsters on this site would have thought I'd be headed to a Starbucks or a Pete's. :lol:

swinging brodies in my parts was spinning the tires in random patterns and not circles. They have donuts at Starbucks?

Vince@Meanstreets

06-07-2013, 12:04 AM

Where the F is Vince with my updated photos.

Ready to rock T-Hill on the 30th!! :guns:

oh take it easy buster.....I'll throw up a few when I get better shots, but don't expect much. I said I would toss a few pictures up and not a Brett-itorial. :RunninDog:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-07-2013, 12:09 AM

Understood it :thumbsup:

Just attempting to share perceptions with Gae that might help shave lap time. I'm looking forward to taking some laps as a co-pilot to see and feel the difference between 2 & 4 wheels at T-Hill.

Cool, that would be good. I hope to see you there.

A few things I mentioned

: he needs better brakes with cooling so he can deeper into the turns.
: more suspension tuning
: tall spindles that work
: shocks that work
: safety equipment

Flash68

06-07-2013, 12:15 AM

Understood it :thumbsup:

Just attempting to share perceptions with Gae that might help shave lap time. I'm looking forward to taking some laps as a co-pilot to see and feel the difference between 2 & 4 wheels at T-Hill.

Come down end of this month. :sieg:

Brett-itorial. :RunninDog:

:lol:

A few things I mentioned

: safety equipment

This!

Vince@Meanstreets

06-09-2013, 12:42 PM

Gaetano have been complaining that his rear sway bar is too soft and well the budget wasn't there for a fabricated adjustible type so we came up with a fairly cheap solution and using the existing bar.

I loved the Pozzi bar that was used on Bad Penny® so we looked around for different types of bar adjusters. I found an interesting set made for polaris quads. Called them up to see if they had any in SAE sizes. Nothing for a .875 bar. Then I remembered a j-bar mount is very similar...no bueno for anything under 1.750 bar. Poop.

So I drew these up on solidworks and sent a copy to Dennis @ Creations Unlimited. He made a few tweeks. Contured the body so we can go from .625in to a 1.250 in bar with the same program. We made a prototype to try out on Gaetanos car.

I'll see how they do this month. So far so good.

intocarss

06-09-2013, 04:01 PM

DON'T SEE MUCH CHROME AND POLISH UNDER THERE :confused59:

Vegas69

06-09-2013, 05:26 PM

I ain't no show tourer.:snapout:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-09-2013, 06:57 PM

DON'T SEE MUCH CHROME AND POLISH UNDER THERE :confused59:

i'll sneek in a few pieces in there but it all looks the same when covered in blood and guts. :D
I ain't no show tourer.:snapout:

yeah, not much to look at but she can cook.

battery relocated and power kill added for easy access.

Track Junky

06-09-2013, 07:06 PM

First off I just want to say thanks to Allen and Vince. Vince was squeezing time in betwen other projects to work on her as he had other cars he had to get out of the garage and we worked till about 9:00 p.m. on a few Friday and Saturday nights to gitter dun. It was a great time and I didn't want it to end. :cheers:
I took her out for a ride today and the rear bar is definitley doing its job now. I'm going to have to adjust where it is currently set up at as I can feel the rear definitely wants to rotate now. Hoping to find an empty lot next week end to get a better idea of where it needs to be.
In addition to the sway bar we made a battery tray behind the passenger seat, placed a battery shut off switch near the passenger side window, made a rear tow hook, and changed the air filter set up.
Hopefully Vince and Allen will post some more pic's of the work and Vid's of a couple little burnouts.

Vince@Meanstreets

06-09-2013, 07:37 PM

_hC1I68yL9Y

Rick D

06-09-2013, 07:41 PM

That's is 10 sec of video!! :twak: :twak:

You most be glad to have it back together Gae?

Vince@Meanstreets

06-09-2013, 08:16 PM

watch it over and over then. lol

Flash68

06-09-2013, 08:19 PM

10 sec is more than zero I guess. :rules:

Likin the mods you guys are doing over there.

Gaetano bring that dyno video flash drive to my house and you can grab that spoiler sitting in my garage next time you're passing nearby....

Sieg

06-09-2013, 08:19 PM

Motor sounds Grrrrrreat! :thumbsup:

Rick D

06-09-2013, 08:23 PM

watch it over and over then. lol

:buttkick: smart azz :lol:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-09-2013, 08:24 PM

:buttkick: smart azz :lol:

haaaa haaa gaetano is working on the dyno video and should have it up soon.

here rick, look at this. :knokwood:

Track Junky

06-09-2013, 08:27 PM

That's is 10 sec of video!! :twak: :twak:

You most be glad to have it back together Gae?

Thanks Rick, definitely happy to have her back on the road.

Thats actually the longest time that car has been on video outside of a road course in the 20 years I've owned er. Pretty cool and definitely a teaser. Think I want to see more. Theres one more with me coming back in the gate. Hopefully Allen will post it. If I find an empty lot next weekend I'll see if I can drag somebody out to take some more vid.
In the mean time I have the flash drive with the vid of the engine dyno in an envelope now and that will be headed toward Jerdog as soon as I drop it in the mail box tomorrow.

Track Junky

06-09-2013, 08:30 PM

Sieg

06-09-2013, 08:31 PM

Your hooliganism and my camera would be a wonderful thing. :thumbsup:

Track Junky

06-09-2013, 08:35 PM

Motor sounds Grrrrrreat! :thumbsup:

Thanks Sieg. Dont think Vince's I phone was doing it justice though.

Vince@Meanstreets

06-09-2013, 08:36 PM

How about this Saturday. Any empty lots out your way?

his driveway has a nice chicane and off camber sweeper. :drive:

Flash68

06-09-2013, 08:37 PM

How about this Saturday. Any empty lots out your way?

Yeah I am around Saturday during the day. Come on by.

San Pablo Dam Rd is an excellent road north of here.... and Bear Creek Rd too. We could create some chaos there. :gitrdun:

Flash68

06-09-2013, 08:38 PM

his driveway has a nice chicane and off camber sweeper. :drive:

LOL.. I was gonna consider that... we shoulda done some tomfoolery before I had it resurfaced in the fall.

Sieg

06-09-2013, 08:39 PM

his driveway has a nice chicane and off camber sweeper. :drive:

I'd throw money in a hat to see video of that!

Sieg

06-09-2013, 08:41 PM

LOL.. I was gonna consider that... we shoulda done some tomfoolery before I had it resurfaced in the fall.

I'd throw money in a hat to see video of that!

That definitely ups the pot. :evil:

Track Junky

06-09-2013, 08:48 PM

Yeah I am around Saturday during the day. Come on by.

San Pablo Dam Rd is an excellent road north of here.... and Bear Creek Rd too. We could create some chaos there. :gitrdun:

Cool. We need an empty lot though. I dont like messing around on public roadways. Oh, and bring something to video with. I'll see if I can get some cones to set up a slalom. Think its 7 cones with 70' of seperation?

intocarss

06-09-2013, 08:53 PM

i'll sneek in a few pieces in there but it all looks the same when covered in blood and guts. :D

yeah, not much to look at but she can cook.
battery relocated and power kill added for easy access. Forum over function & it is a good looking car

watch it over and over then. lol How'd you know

Flash68

06-09-2013, 08:59 PM

Cool. We need an empty lot though. I dont like messing around on public roadways. Oh, and bring something to video with. I'll see if I can get some cones to set up a slalom. Think its 7 cones with 70' of seperation?

LOL. I don't know where we can setup our own slalom at around here... need to think on that.... but I can tell you Bear Creek Rd has virtually zero traffic. It's 10 minutes off the freeway and has some great sweepers and wide roads around the reservoir. I can't wait to go out there when mine's done.

I have my gopro here but the mount is down in Gilroy on my car. Have the iphone and a flipcam as other options.

Vince@Meanstreets

06-09-2013, 09:00 PM

Vince@Meanstreets

06-09-2013, 09:01 PM

LOL. I don't know where we can setup our own slalom at around here... need to think on that.... but I can tell you Bear Creek Rd has virtually zero traffic. It's 10 minutes off the freeway and has some great sweepers and wide roads around the reservoir. I can't wait to go out there when mine's done.

I have my gopro here but the mount is down in Gilroy on my car. Have the iphone and a flipcam as other options.

your gonna get a hand smack

Flash68

06-09-2013, 09:20 PM

your gonna get a hand smack

I don't condone street shenanigans for the record. It's for spirited test driving purposes, nothing more. I take it to the track too.

intocarss

06-09-2013, 09:21 PM

... I have my gopro here but the mount is down in Gilroy on my car. Have the iphone and a flipcam as other options.

Duct tape it to the dash :rules:

Ron in SoCal

06-09-2013, 09:22 PM

"Four pages!," no wait...

"Sounds like an LS motor!"

Haha, JK. Lookin very good Gae and Vince. Congrats on getting her on the road! :cheers:

Track Junky

06-09-2013, 09:48 PM

yes, save it for the track

your gonna get a hand smack

Looks like we're going to have to wait till T-Hill. I cant mess with my crew chief. :warning:

"Four pages!," no wait...

"Sounds like an LS motor!"

Haha, JK. Lookin very good Gae and Vince. Congrats on getting her on the road! :cheers:

At least I met you guys part way.....she's got an LS firing order :lol:

Thanks Ron.......not ready to celebrate just yet though.....need wrap up the shake down run. :unibrow:

70rs

06-10-2013, 10:05 AM

I'm glad to see her back together. Good luck on the shake down runs.

Track Junky

06-10-2013, 01:49 PM

Thanks Eric. Good to see you made it back. :thumbsup:

70rs

06-10-2013, 02:50 PM

Thanks Eric. Good to see you made it back. :thumbsup:

Thanks Gae!

Vince@Meanstreets

06-10-2013, 11:45 PM

Looks like we're going to have to wait till T-Hill. I cant mess with my crew chief. :warning:

At least I met you guys part way.....she's got an LS firing order :lol:

Thanks Ron.......not ready to celebrate just yet though.....need wrap up the shake down run. :unibrow:

I don't mean to sound like a poopy pants but I have seen too many good guys go down from the combination of twisty roads, track tires and street fun. Not a good mix.

Rick D

06-11-2013, 05:56 AM

I don't mean to sound like a poopy pants but I have seen too many good guys go down from the combination of twisty roads, track tires and street fun. Not a good mix.

Wow mister poopy pants? :lol:

Sorry that just made me laugh.

I can agree more, I've seen WAY to many street races in my day go bad. I have a friend that rolled his 80's Grand Prix 7 times after getting lose in some gravel on the curb side of the road. One wheel and some parts of the engine where all that was left. He walked away because of the roll cage he had installed, but could have been much worse. On that day his angel was riding shot gun!!

intocarss

06-14-2013, 10:48 PM

DNpM3xRMyBE

GregWeld

06-14-2013, 10:58 PM

I got lawn mowers that idle nastier....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Track Junky

06-14-2013, 11:09 PM

I have a bald spot in the back of my head??? :shakehead:

GregWeld

06-14-2013, 11:11 PM

Don't worry --- it'll grow.... not hair --- just a bigger spot...

Track Junky

06-14-2013, 11:17 PM

I got lawn mowers that idle nastier....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I haven't seen any of these. I think there's three more. Hopefully itwill make mre noise than your lawn mower :popcorn2:

Don't worry --- it'll grow.... not hair --- just a bigger spot...

You would know :bitchslap: :topic:

Sieg

06-14-2013, 11:19 PM

Man that motor looks nice with a decent set of headers on it. :underchair:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-14-2013, 11:24 PM

POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!:cheering:

Track Junky

06-14-2013, 11:28 PM

POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!POWER PULLS!:cheering:

I know......Jer has 3 more of these to down load.....:popcorn2:

Thanks Jer....patience isn't one of my better virtues. :rolleyes:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-14-2013, 11:31 PM

I know......Jer has 3 more of these to down load.....:popcorn2:

Thanks Jer....patience isn't one of my better virtues. :rolleyes:

yeaaaaaahhhh no sh**t

intocarss

06-14-2013, 11:35 PM

LJmydsUY5Rw

intocarss

06-14-2013, 11:38 PM

4vzSxBKdfUA

Vince@Meanstreets

06-14-2013, 11:39 PM

haaaa thats good. wrong but good.:computer:

Track Junky

06-14-2013, 11:45 PM

haaaa thats good. wrong but good.:computer:

See the sub titles :mock: :lol:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-14-2013, 11:49 PM

See the sub titles :mock: :lol:

yaaah..... haaaa. that was a crazy crash in South Korea too.

Track Junky

06-14-2013, 11:53 PM

yaaah..... haaaa. that was a crazy crash in South Korea too.

What the hell are you talking about?? :snapout:

fleetus macmullitz

06-15-2013, 12:12 AM

I have a bald spot in the back of my head??? :shakehead:

Always ask for 'Doggies Dyno Gap Spray'. It'll cover that right up. :D

intocarss

06-15-2013, 12:36 AM

sOHueWCfhGM

Ron in SoCal

06-15-2013, 12:58 AM

I have a bald spot in the back of my head??? :shakehead:

Take my word for it, you get over it...:lol:

Nice vid Bro! :thumbsup:

Flash68

06-15-2013, 01:11 AM

Where is the obligatory camera shift to the dyno screen at the end of each run? Hmmmm.... hiding something eh? Gamesmanship..... Ok I like it.

Looks good (your hair) and sounds mean (the motor).

:bigun2:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-15-2013, 01:22 AM

Take my word for it, you get over it...:lol:

Nice vid Bro! :thumbsup:

yeah, we got use to it 3 years ago. :headspin:

intocarss

06-15-2013, 06:48 AM

See the sub titles :mock: :lol::catfight: :stirthepot: :catfight: :stirthepot: :catfight: :stirthepot: :buttkick:

GregWeld

06-15-2013, 07:28 AM

GregWeld

06-15-2013, 07:30 AM

You do the math......

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/file.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/file.jpg.html)

GregWeld

06-15-2013, 07:33 AM

Motor sounds pretty good Gae!

Hope you're getting what you've worked so hard for! These cars can be a PITA can't they?!?!?!

intocarss

06-15-2013, 07:34 AM

Here.... I won't hide mine.....

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/Mustang.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/Mustang.jpg.html)

THAT COULD BE ANYONES DYNO SHEET :headscratch:

HEY GW ..YOU WANT TO BORROW SOME OF MY OLD DYNO SHEETS?? THEN YOU CAN REALLY IMPRESS THESE GUYS :relax:

GregWeld

06-15-2013, 07:37 AM

Oh -- wait just a minute <sound of rustling around in big ass duffle bag> Here ya go!

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/989713c6-0522-4c14-a043-f8861d1d2f73.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/989713c6-0522-4c14-a043-f8861d1d2f73.jpg.html)

intocarss

06-15-2013, 07:44 AM

^^^^^ :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: ^^^^^

GregWeld

06-15-2013, 07:53 AM

Really is nice to see this back up and running.... so many posters/Lat-G members just have piles of parts....

Oh......

Did I just say that?

:D

Track Junky

06-15-2013, 08:13 AM

Always ask for 'Doggies Dyno Gap Spray'. It'll cover that right up. :D

Thanks Skip, I forgot how versatle that stuff was :thumbsup:

Take my word for it, you get over it...:lol:

Nice vid Bro! :thumbsup:

Thanks Ron......I could swar every time I go to get a haircut my forehead gets bigger :headscratch:

Where is the obligatory camera shift to the dyno screen at the end of each run? Hmmmm.... hiding something eh? Gamesmanship..... Ok I like it.

Looks good (your hair) and sounds mean (the motor).

:bigun2:

I know its around here somewhere :headscratch: :lol:

Track Junky

06-15-2013, 08:16 AM

Motor sounds pretty good Gae!

Hope you're getting what you've worked so hard for! These cars can be a PITA can't they?!?!?!

Thanks Greg. And yes, they can be a pain in the ass but it just didn't seem that tough 10 years ago :headscratch:

Track Junky

06-15-2013, 08:21 AM

Sieg

06-15-2013, 08:57 AM

Thanks Ron......I could swear every time I go to get a haircut my forehead gets bigger :headscratch:

Please don't resort to this............
http://catcherinthestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/comb-over.jpeg

glassman

06-15-2013, 10:28 AM

i know we're getting way off topic here but that last pic reminds me of one of my wifes grandparents best friends we use'd to go water skiing with , he did the "combover" and when it got wet it was just one lump of hair coming off his right scalp. Sorry, i laughed out loud when remembering it so i just had to go there....

Vince@Meanstreets

06-15-2013, 10:32 AM

Please don't resort to this............
http://catcherinthestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/comb-over.jpeg

haaa or just go all in and go this route.... http://cdn.ispot.tv/image/ad/7kgI~6~620.jpg

Track Junky

06-16-2013, 12:25 AM

In an effort to help me obtain my lap time goals I created a spreadsheet to record the cars set up and conditions for each session. I could probably add tires and spring rate details but I dont intend on changing any of that this season. If you guys see something I missed let me know. I can also forward this to anyone who may want to try it out.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/TrackDayDetails2002.jpg

Flash68

06-18-2013, 12:01 AM

Planning your work and working your plan.

So uh..... when are you gonna start the 2013 Buttonwillow thread so no one can show up and it be a total failure? :lol:

Vince@Meanstreets

06-18-2013, 12:03 AM

Planning your work and working your plan.

So uh..... when are you gonna start the 2013 Buttonwillow thread so no one can show up and it be a total failure? :lol:

haa yeah, we'll just show up and hope everyone is there. :secret:

GregWeld

06-18-2013, 06:58 AM

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/TrackDayDetails2002.jpg

NICE SHEET..... but it seems to be empty. So that means... what?? That means you need some tracky time!!!

Track Junky

06-18-2013, 08:05 AM

Planning your work and working your plan.

So uh..... when are you gonna start the 2013 Buttonwillow thread so no one can show up and it be a total failure? :lol:

LOL. Exactly why I'm not starting it. I think the epic thread became the epic jinx. Mums the word :_paranoid

NICE SHEET..... but it seems to be empty. So that means... what?? That means you need some tracky time!!!

Thanks Greg....Hoping to fill the empty boxes soon

GregWeld

06-18-2013, 08:16 AM

I just signed up to run Sonoma --- August "Summer Surprise" --- with NorCal Shelby club. Open to all.... you don't even have to be a club member.

Track Junky

06-18-2013, 08:41 AM

I just signed up to run Sonoma --- August "Summer Surprise" --- with NorCal Shelby club. Open to all.... you don't even have to be a club member.

I've already planned to go. It will be cool to see you guys again but in a car hopefully this time.

GregWeld

06-18-2013, 08:58 AM

I've already planned to go. It will be cool to see you guys again but in a car hopefully this time.

I still haven't buffed out the paint from the last time!

LOL

Track Junky

06-18-2013, 11:18 AM

I still haven't buffed out the paint from the last time!

LOL

No worries, those marks just give your car more character. And at the least you've truly made it your car now. :unibrow:

Track Junky

06-21-2013, 11:42 PM

Well I kind of feel bad posting this only because I know there are a few people around here waiting for a truck load of big ticket items to be delivered and this is the last piece of the puzzle for me for now but here it is. Hood to air box seal showed up today from McMaster-Carr. I now have a positive seal around the air cleaner. Grand total for a minimum of 10' buy in..........35 bucks. :hapdance:

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/Gitter_Dun/Hoodtoaircleanerseal003.jpg