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GregWeld
09-25-2010, 12:04 PM
I hesitate to post this up since it's CLEARLY not a PT build or style car... But I figured it's a car - so maybe some are interested. So here it is.

Some of you already know that I bought a 32 Ford a week or so ago.... No, I wasn't in the market for one. I saw this car when I was in Sun Valley for the weekend and bought it...

So after living with it for a few days -- it needs to be modified a bit.... :D

It is a 383 stroker - carbed - T56 6 speed - 8" Ford rear - Kugel Komponents IRS front end with their cast stainless arms... It's Ferrari Rosso Red. I like the car - but it just isn't quite right in a couple areas so I'll attempt to bring those few missteps in line.

Here's a couple pics of how it is now:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/32fordred01.gif


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/32fordred02.gif


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/32fordred09.gif


And here is the first napkin sketch:

It's at SAR (Steve's Auto Restoration) now and they'll start work ASAP. The plan is to do a Kugel Winters Quick Change with the cast stainless arms to match the front - change the steering wheel to a four spoke - change the wheels to the Schott Velocitys with knock off caps - ditch the 6 speed for a TKO 600 FIVE speed (with 3:90 gears) - loose the hood sides - Lake style exhaust - 8 stack EFI - change the headlight mounts...

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/32roadster.jpg

GregWeld
09-25-2010, 12:09 PM
This is the Kugel Winters Champ Quick Change:

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/image001-1.jpg

GregWeld
09-25-2010, 12:13 PM
Here's the wheel - so far - that we're thinking about using:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/Velocity_3bar_2.jpg

wiedemab
09-25-2010, 12:21 PM
I can't wait to see what you do with it. It looks like one heck of a nice starting point.

HRBS
09-25-2010, 12:54 PM
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/32roadster.jpg

Yeah.... I would agree to say that list is perfect.
We have similar "street rod " taste.
Just the right amount of "tweaking" ! :thumbsup:

skatinjay27
09-25-2010, 01:29 PM
nice! all the visual changes your making are all the things that first jumped out to me as being "ugly" on the car right now especially those side engine covers with the louvers... i hate those.and you know i LOVE stacks!!!! should look real bad azz when done.

brans72
09-25-2010, 01:48 PM
I think changes will be wesome there Greg and the wheels are perfect choice for that car! Can not wait to see finished. Brandon

GregWeld
09-25-2010, 02:44 PM
Great! Glad you guys like the ideas...

I didn't want to repaint the whole car -- it has a whopping 600 miles on it... and the paint and bodywork is flawless... but I thought the wheels and stance sucked.... and I just can't do "carbs" --- and the 6 speed would never get into 6th - even with 4:88's -- which would make the rest of the gears suck... so why bother! LOL

The interior will get "square weave" carpet... and the dash will be re-done and higher quality. The engine turned bit is some kind of cheapazz plastic wannabe stuff... and I wanted a small console for my coffee cup... so we'll do a key fob style push button starter in the console... and Steve restores old style heaters so we'll add one of those - even though they're mostly useless in a roadster. :rolleyes:


I'm thinking the new license plate should be: REDEUCE

Flash68
09-25-2010, 03:44 PM
I like it and those wheels are perfect I think.

But not sure why swapping out the T56 for the TKO? just because of 6th? or you want that shorter first gear?

96z28ss
09-25-2010, 04:06 PM
so when the car is done it will look some thing like this, without hood sides. I know yours is a high boy and the pic i attached isn't,

Are you going to run Lakester headers? or a lake side pipe like the 32 attached?

NOT A TA
09-25-2010, 04:28 PM
Very cool car Greg! Have fun with it!

tones2SS
09-25-2010, 04:55 PM
Nice car Greg. It will be cool to be see the "tweaks" that you bring to it. Looks like a great starting point for sure. Really nice car.
Good luck and enjoy!:thumbsup: :cheers:

srh3trinity
09-25-2010, 06:23 PM
Looks like a nice start and the concept is spot on.

awr68
09-25-2010, 07:06 PM
It's going to be sweet! Yes, please use those wheels! :yes:
Any idea how long it will be at Steve's?

GregWeld
09-25-2010, 09:54 PM
I like it and those wheels are perfect I think.

But not sure why swapping out the T56 for the TKO? just because of 6th? or you want that shorter first gear?

Dave --

These POS run real tall tires -- 29 inchers -- so the effective gear is higher than the numerical number... So the car just would never see 6th gear. I'd have to run a 4.62 to use 6th.... and any gear ratio above a 4.11 is a "race gear" -- thus noisy with howl etc. Plus that gear would destroy the 1st gear in the car... you'd be shifting in the first 10 feet.

I think the T56 that's in there now is the .50 OD... at least that's what it drives like -- And of course this is all subject to change depending on what we find when we start breaking the car down.

GregWeld
09-25-2010, 10:00 PM
so when the car is done it will look some thing like this, without hood sides. I know yours is a high boy and the pic i attached isn't,

Are you going to run Lakester headers? or a lake side pipe like the 32 attached?

Bob --

I think we're talking LAKESTER like the header shown... I don't like the lake side pipe - or as we used to call them -- ANKLE BURNERS

I think the look is "updated dry lakes roadster" -- so smooth - sans door hinges and trim on the grill shell etc -- but with a hint of tradition.

GregWeld
09-25-2010, 10:01 PM
It's going to be sweet! Yes, please use those wheels! :yes:
Any idea how long it will be at Steve's?

Tony --- the Kugel rear end is a month out.... and I would imagine that plus more for the wheels etc - so if we started tomorrow it would be December. I'm thinking they'll get started (once we settle on all the final details) about the time we hit SEMA or before.

fleetus macmullitz
09-26-2010, 04:53 AM
Here's the wheel - so far - that we're thinking about using:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/Velocity_3bar_2.jpg

Greg, I really believe the car deserves a set of wheels that you personally design.

Impress us enough so that someday we may want to order a set of Weld wheels. :unibrow:

GregWeld
09-26-2010, 07:15 AM
Skippers


That's been done before.... unfortunately for that particular Greg Weld... he was bankrupt and then passed away... fortunately I'm neither of those!

:rofl:

If I designed a wheel for the car - I'd have to spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express -- and then maybe I could come up with a chrome reverse wheel with a baby moon and wide whites... Oh wait! Then it would look like Brizios 55!

EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA
:captain:

fleetus macmullitz
09-26-2010, 07:23 AM
Insulting 2 hot rod icons in one post.. you did impress me. :thumbsup:



:lol:

GregWeld
09-26-2010, 07:30 AM
:unibrow: :D

awr68
09-26-2010, 09:22 AM
Next time you are coming down look me up....I would love to go to SAR with ya...never been there!

jski67
09-26-2010, 09:35 AM
Awesome!

I grew up working on street rods with my Dad...somewhere there's a great picture of my brother and I standing on milk crates to reach over the fender of his 39 chevy (I'm 38 now). He's still got that 39 plus a 32 3-window with an 8-71 blown big block, which is definitely a fun ride.

Anyway, nice car!

Jason

GregWeld
09-26-2010, 10:25 AM
Next time you are coming down look me up....I would love to go to SAR with ya...never been there!

DUDE!! :rofl:

Next trip down -- I think I have to wheelbarrow a buttload of cash -- So I could use your help!!

BTW -- You do know I do everything "mid week" what with not having a job and all...:D

96z28ss
09-26-2010, 01:25 PM
Next time you are coming down look me up....I would love to go to SAR with ya...never been there!

That's funny. Greg called me when he was dropping it off at Steve's to come take a look at it. It was like 3pm. I had to remind him that I'm a working stiff. I did offer to meet him for lunch the next day but he had to get back up to Washington.

I'm actually doing some work for Steve's so I'll get to see the car as it progresses.

GregWeld
09-26-2010, 04:48 PM
I like it and those wheels are perfect I think.

But not sure why swapping out the T56 for the TKO? just because of 6th? or you want that shorter first gear?

Dave ---

So here's a quicky comparison of the tranny / gear change reasoning.

With the TKO 600 FIVE speed -- the OD is .64 - so using a 3:90 gear - and a 275/60/17 tire (30" diameter) I'd be in 5th gear cruising at 2000 rpms at 71 MPH

If I kept the T56 SIX speed -- that same RPM and rear gear would have me cruising at 80

Rear would need to be a 4:56 to get me to 69 MPH using the T56

In a "normal" car -- with "normal" size tires -- this wouldn't be the case - but the tall rear tires used on "highboys" really creates it's own situation with gearing.

As an example - lets assume the same as above - but substitute a 26" diameter tire

The Five speed/3:90/2000RPM would be 62 MPH
The SIX speed/3:90/2000RPM would be 69.5 MPH

So the SIX speed T56 is great for a PT car etc that doesn't use such tall tires.

And yes -- it will be for sale - it's painted Ferrari Rosso Red -- :D

awr68
09-26-2010, 05:28 PM
DUDE!! :rofl:

Next trip down -- I think I have to wheelbarrow a buttload of cash -- So I could use your help!!

BTW -- You do know I do everything "mid week" what with not having a job and all...:D

If I can swing it I would like to hang with ya....never know, this week I had two days off mid-week.

GregWeld
09-26-2010, 05:31 PM
Well --

Finally got the full color rendering for the final design including all of the tweaks and design changes. :woot:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/Hot32.jpg

Vegas69
09-26-2010, 05:35 PM
I bet they are a blast to cruise. I agree with Dave. Keep the T56 and just don't use 6th gear. Isn't 5th in a t56 a reasonable overdrive?

GregWeld
09-26-2010, 05:52 PM
Todd --

Like most things - there's more to it than just "leave it in and not use it"... I'm having the motor set back from where it is. Since the shifter position is already really crappy -- right next to the seat - which makes a very awkward shifter position and the throw is just all wrong.... It would be into the seat frame once the setback is changed. The TKO 600 allows me to move the shifter to a proper location. So the change, fixes more than just the gearing issue.

80 in one of these -- just isn't something you're going to do much of. Trust me. These drive way different than a 69 Camaro. I don't like my Nomad UNTIL I'm hitting 75 plus... but in a roadster -- 80 is just beating the stuffing out of you. 70 feels like you're flying... It's more like being in a Go Kart.

GregWeld
09-26-2010, 06:00 PM
Todd --

Using the info I posted before.

2000 RPMS/3:90/30" tire -- 5th in the T56 (.74 5th gear) is 61 MPH

So you can start to see -- it's just a bit "goofy"... I just don't do "goofy". The whole body is coming off the car -- motor set back -- rear cut out and new goes in - so why not just do it right the first time.

Vegas69
09-26-2010, 06:22 PM
I just don't like the shifting of a TKO vs. a T56. I'd at least send it out to have it blue printed and worked over. :D

clill
09-26-2010, 06:35 PM
I do have a soft spot for 32's

GregWeld
09-26-2010, 07:43 PM
I do have a soft spot for 32's

LOL --- I know you do!

You bought that Blue 3 window coupe with the flames and the red interior - that I was GOING to bid on (Hot August Nights) -- til you told me "I'm going to buy that". My heart sunk...

Hey! Stacked was from up "here".... I remember it well. Killer killer car!

:cheers:

awr68
09-26-2010, 08:17 PM
Stacked is a cool car! How much is it tubbed...love the look! :thumbsup:

96z28ss
09-27-2010, 12:34 AM
So your setting the motor back that means a whole new fire wall.
wow this project really changed. So your going to end up painting the whole car then?

tones2SS
09-27-2010, 06:45 AM
I do have a soft spot for 32's

Very nice!:wow:

GregWeld
09-27-2010, 07:00 AM
So your setting the motor back that means a whole new fire wall.
wow this project really changed. So your going to end up painting the whole car then?

Nope.... just going back a pinch - ditching the HEI big cap distributor. That's not set in stone yet - but that was a 'fix' for the header interference / hood side issue. It might not HAVE to be done now that we're ditching the hood sides. BUT
it depends on the new fan shroud etc. It's no big deal to whack the mounts and move them back just a bit if we want to.

ccracin
09-27-2010, 09:58 AM
Greg,

I can't believe I missed this thread. Nice purchase. While I agree with all that you are doing, I am a bit disappointed! :( SAR does fantastic work, but why is this not being done in the shed? You are more than capable of doing all this. Plus if it was in the shed, we could get update shots daily! After all you gotta remember it is all about US! :rofl: Keep us updated, love 32's!

GregWeld
09-27-2010, 10:47 AM
Chad,

First = Thanks!

It was totally a "whim".

Now --- yes I'm more than capable of doing this in the shed. However.... there is a few things that enter into the decision to have the tweaks done.

#1 -- I have a busy winter for whatever reason -- it's just "full" -- more so than normal.

#2 -- I want to be driving this by MAY

#3 -- The Shed is occupied right now...

#4 -- I just really don't feel like doing it. :D

#5 -- This way I can really say -- the car was built by SAR

#6 -- I know nothing about them -- what they're supposed to be etc so I have to defer to better judgement i.e., The pros at SAR. Steve knows these cars.

#7 -- I would only be "saving" the labor... and this is not that big of a deal in the scheme of things. I'd still have to purchase all the parts.

#8 -- After doing the work - I'd still have to have the chassis painted - so this way I'm saving the paint jail and the excuses. I only have to spank one shop IF it's delayed for some reason.

#9 -- Did I mention that I just don't feel like it? :D

96z28ss
09-27-2010, 10:57 AM
Greg if your doing the Lakster headers. How about putting an electric cut out, so that way you could have open headers then close them quickly with just a switch. Haven't seen it done before.

ccracin
09-27-2010, 11:09 AM
Chad,

First = Thanks!

It was totally a "whim".

Now --- yes I'm more than capable of doing this in the shed. However.... there is a few things that enter into the decision to have the tweaks done.

#1 -- I have a busy winter for whatever reason -- it's just "full" -- more so than normal.

#2 -- I want to be driving this by MAY

#3 -- The Shed is occupied right now...

#4 -- I just really don't feel like doing it. :D

#5 -- This way I can really say -- the car was built by SAR

#6 -- I know nothing about them -- what they're supposed to be etc so I have to defer to better judgement i.e., The pros at SAR. Steve knows these cars.

#7 -- I would only be "saving" the labor... and this is not that big of a deal in the scheme of things. I'd still have to purchase all the parts.

#8 -- After doing the work - I'd still have to have the chassis painted - so this way I'm saving the paint jail and the excuses. I only have to spank one shop IF it's delayed for some reason.

#9 -- Did I mention that I just don't feel like it? :D

I completely understand. I was just busting a bit. Just make sure they have a good photographer there. It will be great seeing this one come together. May in Washington? Better have them build a hard top and wipers! :rofl: You going to do a build thread or just update this thread? Need to know which one to subscribe at.

fleetus macmullitz
09-27-2010, 12:19 PM
Hoping this thread has longer legs than that Renner-centric one. I heard all the panel gap spray he's inhaled turned him into a ghost...a goblin. :(

GregWeld
09-27-2010, 01:52 PM
Greg if your doing the Lakster headers. How about putting an electric cut out, so that way you could have open headers then close them quickly with just a switch. Haven't seen it done before.

Just been emailing with Steve -- told him "I'm from Missouri"...

The napkin rendering really isn't detailed enough for me... so we're working on it.

As for your electric cut out idea. NO. :D

There'd be no place to hide the hideous things.

GregWeld
09-27-2010, 01:54 PM
Chad ---

Trust me when I tell ya -- I had to check with myself more than a couple of times... But there's lots of reasons for me to just have them do it.

#1 really is -- I don't want to screw it up... a man has to know his limitations.

96z28ss
09-27-2010, 02:53 PM
As for your electric cut out idea. NO. :D

There'd be no place to hide the hideous things.

with some engineering it could be designed to not be all that noticable.

really i was just thinking how much your neighbor would like it.

GregWeld
09-27-2010, 04:05 PM
Bob --

Have you heard that thing fire off thru the exhaust it has now?? It will absolutely drive him (neighbor) to buy a gun and come hunting for me. BUT.... there's always a big butt.... I'll be waiting... :D

I'm not doing ANY engineering on this car. I like it because it's SO SIMPLE! And I'm going to keep it that way -- to me -- that's the attraction! No A/C - No P/W - No P/Bs - not even a folding top to store! I love it. A motor - 4 tires - half a body... Pure simplicity.

GregWeld
09-27-2010, 04:06 PM
Hoping this thread has longer legs than that Renner-centric one. I heard all the panel gap spray he's inhaled turned him into a ghost...a goblin. :(


Renner who?

GregWeld
09-27-2010, 05:30 PM
You going to do a build thread or just update this thread? Need to know which one to subscribe at.

I guess I should - but will wait for the final rendering and parts list. Then I'll have to rely on Bob to stop every night on his way home to update us with pics!

EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA

Looks like maybe the wheels will be 20's in back and 17's up front. Still working on that. I like that combo - now have to find an appropriate tire. I don't like these cars with skinny sidewalls... that just isn't "right". And we've agreed on capped LAKESTER style headers with out the back exhaust.

I think the Imagine Injection I have on the Nomad is too contemporary - even though the owner is a buddy - so I'm thinking of the Inglese 8 stack or a Hilborn. I like the looks of the Inglese unit and the common plenum for vacuum (PCV) is a big plus.

I was already told "NO" on the console having a spot for my coffee cup (which never leaves my hand)... I was told I could just buy a bean bag version from Wal-Mart. :rofl: I like Steve's style! He's not afraid to tell a customer "NO"! :woot:

96z28ss
09-27-2010, 05:50 PM
Well,
I will be there doing some engineering on one of there cars. I could take pics, or I could just tell its looking good and then just keep you in suspense.

ccracin
09-27-2010, 06:37 PM
Greg,

Sorry for a quick thread jack. Can we talk some time about your Imagine Injection? A friend just bought a truck project off of us and wants to put an 8 Stack on a Big Block. I told him about your setup and would like to be able to steer him in the right direction. PM me your number and maybe we can BS sometime. Thanks. Jack over!

GregWeld
09-28-2010, 04:19 PM
Greg,

Sorry for a quick thread jack. Can we talk some time about your Imagine Injection? A friend just bought a truck project off of us and wants to put an 8 Stack on a Big Block. I told him about your setup and would like to be able to steer him in the right direction. PM me your number and maybe we can BS sometime. Thanks. Jack over!

Done!

lhkustoms
10-07-2010, 01:40 PM
Greg, any updates?

GregWeld
10-07-2010, 01:45 PM
Greg, any updates?

Not yet --- SAR is just waiting for me to write them a check. A few more tidy up details and we're there on the design and changes.

They'll start work on it about the week we're all at SEMA.

kennyd
10-07-2010, 02:49 PM
I guess I should - but will wait for the final rendering and parts list. Then I'll have to rely on Bob to stop every night on his way home to update us with pics!

EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA

Looks like maybe the wheels will be 20's in back and 17's up front. Still working on that. I like that combo - now have to find an appropriate tire. I don't like these cars with skinny sidewalls... that just isn't "right". And we've agreed on capped LAKESTER style headers with out the back exhaust.

I think the Imagine Injection I have on the Nomad is too contemporary - even though the owner is a buddy - so I'm thinking of the Inglese 8 stack or a Hilborn. I like the looks of the Inglese unit and the common plenum for vacuum (PCV) is a big plus.

I was already told "NO" on the console having a spot for my coffee cup (which never leaves my hand)... I was told I could just buy a bean bag version from Wal-Mart. :rofl: I like Steve's style! He's not afraid to tell a customer "NO"! :woot:

stay away from the hilborn set-up go with the Inglese set up .they use a comon plenum under the base to equal the runner volume .

HRBS
10-07-2010, 02:54 PM
x2 on the Inglese set up. We are running one on a BBC for our Shop Bitch project. Nice stuff !

GregWeld
10-07-2010, 04:11 PM
Thanks guys... but you're preaching to the choir -- I already run one of my cars with an Inglese intake (using Imagine Injection TB's).... and I totally "get" the plenum. I took my polished weber intake off (that used lines to a small common plenum for the MAP sensor) -- as soon as I could get my hands on the Inglese unit.

I would never use the Hilborn unit -- that was just Steve's description when I said "I'll run an 8 stack injection unit".

GregWeld
10-07-2010, 04:24 PM
x2 on the Inglese set up. We are running one on a BBC for our Shop Bitch project. Nice stuff !


The problem with the BBC --- is that they have not cast up a new intake with the large common plenum yet.... I hope that is in their plans! It really makes it nice to have lots of vacuum for PCV or power brakes etc.

I'm trying to talk one of my buddies into pulling off his intake and modifying the valley area to make a plenum like the SBC intake. We talked to Inglese about them making one.

HRBS
10-07-2010, 06:36 PM
True.... we are using the IDA manifold for mock-up but have a one off in the works. Not from Inglese but our machinist. He seems to have the concept and flow numbers down but getting him to actually make time for cut it is another story.... :lol:
Enough hi-jack.... get SAR to send you update pics !

GregWeld
10-08-2010, 07:51 PM
True.... we are using the IDA manifold for mock-up but have a one off in the works. Not from Inglese but our machinist. He seems to have the concept and flow numbers down but getting him to actually make time for cut it is another story.... :lol:
Enough hi-jack.... get SAR to send you update pics !

Steve - They're not going to start work until right around the week of SEMA... I have to cut them a check before they start - and we're still nailing down some of the details on parts to order etc. Once we are 100% settled - which is almost... then let the games begin. It's really not the much of a project - when you look at the scope of work. It's a rear end change - and at this point - we're pretty sure we're going to go ahead and set the motor back just a pinch - and a new grill shell (stock to replace the widened version) -- and tires and wheels. It's a little tiny bit of paint work... and a tranny change. I wanted the square weave carpet - and most likely the tranny shifter will end up in a new location - so the carpet would be replaced anyway.

I'm really the most excited about the rear end change and the wheel choice/size ... because that will really make the most difference to me. :cheers:

rocketman
10-13-2010, 02:00 PM
You get rid of the 37 ford project

GregWeld
10-13-2010, 03:48 PM
No -- Still have it -- but will sell it now that I have the new 32 Ford.... is my thinking... but I never know what I'm going to do.

RECOVERY ROOM
10-14-2010, 06:08 AM
Good build, Showing some class now ..ha ha

96z28ss
10-14-2010, 03:39 PM
No rendering yet?

I thought the 37 was a long hauler type project. Something you and your wife could enjoy to take a road trip in to wine country. She isn't going to want to do it in a 32 ford.

GregWeld
10-14-2010, 04:19 PM
Fine..... She can just stay home then!

GregWeld
10-14-2010, 05:21 PM
I think they're (SAR) ready to start disassembly... and Steve is going to order the rear end... That and the wheels are the two longest "out" parts.

GregWeld
10-14-2010, 05:23 PM
No rendering yet?

I thought the 37 was a long hauler type project. Something you and your wife could enjoy to take a road trip in to wine country. She isn't going to want to do it in a 32 ford.

Yeah -- thus the statement -- I never really know what I'm doing. Right now it's winter... probably drove the Nomad for the last time today... and the 37 is just sitting in the trailer. My short attention span has focused on getting the details of the 32 right... and then I'll figure out what's what on the other stuff.

GregWeld
10-14-2010, 06:24 PM
No rendering yet?


HERE! Imagine it in Ferrari Rosso Corsa. :rofl: :rofl: :woot:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/32roadster.jpg

nvr2fst
10-14-2010, 06:53 PM
Didnt expect to find you under new member/project Greg, but know I see why.
Great choice of ride. Your shopping list is spot on so far for your intended goals. Like Tracy and Kenny Ive always been a "rodder" at heart. I should have kept my 34. Be watching this one closely due to the fact its on lat G and I dont have to go to 15 other sites to check it out.:thumbsup:

Lenie
10-14-2010, 07:15 PM
Greg, I've been drooling over these for the past year now, Ya I'm jealous. I like your choice of wheels, absolutely a cool car. Congratulations on the purchase.

GregWeld
10-14-2010, 07:57 PM
Didnt expect to find you under new member/project Greg, but know I see why.
Great choice of ride. Your shopping list is spot on so far for your intended goals. Like Tracy and Kenny Ive always been a "rodder" at heart. I should have kept my 34. Be watching this one closely due to the fact its on lat G and I dont have to go to 15 other sites to check it out.:thumbsup:

Yeah -- I actually hesitated to even post it up -- but figured "we're all car guys".

I'm a hot rodder... but a hot rodder that likes his performance as in brakes - handling - new tech stuff. So I'll try to upgrade this POS just a bit and get it to be a little more car than it was. The IRS is just to match the front suspension - but should also make it ride nice too... it already has Wilwoods -- and they'll throw you thru the windscreen. As you know - there's no weight to stop! I will use the Inglese 8 stack and the EZ EFI controller. Works great and will get rid of the typical "SBC with a carb"... :cheers:

GregWeld
10-14-2010, 07:58 PM
Greg, I've been drooling over these for the past year now, Ya I'm jealous. I like your choice of wheels, absolutely a cool car. Congratulations on the purchase.

Lenie --- Get back out in that garage and get that 'bird fired up! :unibrow: Then we can go crusin' and I'll let you drive my little "adult go kart". You'll be hooked!


EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA

Beegs
10-15-2010, 04:02 AM
Yeah -- I actually hesitated to even post it up -- but figured "we're all car guys".

I'm a hot rodder... but a hot rodder that likes his performance as in brakes - handling - new tech stuff. So I'll try to upgrade this POS just a bit and get it to be a little more car than it was. The IRS is just to match the front suspension - but should also make it ride nice too... it already has Wilwoods -- and they'll throw you thru the windscreen. As you know - there's no weight to stop! I will use the Inglese 8 stack and the EZ EFI controller. Works great and will get rid of the typical "SBC with a carb"... :cheers:

POS...lol...I like that POS!

96z28ss
10-15-2010, 09:13 AM
HERE! Imagine it in Ferrari Rosso Corsa. :rofl: :rofl: :woot:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/32roadster.jpg

nope, not complete no color and no lakester headers etc.

tones2SS
10-15-2010, 10:37 AM
That should look killer in that color Greg. Very nice!:thumbsup: :cheers:

GregWeld
10-15-2010, 11:19 AM
It's already that color.... which is why I can't figure out why Bob, who is a designer... so says he... needs to see a color rendering. :rofl: He's seen the car... now just look at the black and white --- and bingo! Ya got it! If he forgets what color it is... he can stop by the shop on his way home for a quick review.

The exhaust was a big "discussion"... I had one look in mind - they had (sort of) a different version. Guess what? It'll be done my way. Sanderson Lakesters. Although I did tell them they are free to build custom 304 stainless headers as long as they look exactly like that or slightly modified if we agree...:D I'd like a more 'customized' dump and block off... than the usual 3 bolt... but we can whack off the Sanderson version and water jet some new "mo betta" ones.:woot:

96z28ss
10-15-2010, 01:16 PM
It's already that color.... which is why I can't figure out why Bob, who is a designer... so says he... needs to see a color rendering. :rofl: He's seen the car... now just look at the black and white --- and bingo! Ya got it! If he forgets what color it is... he can stop by the shop on his way home for a quick review.

The exhaust was a big "discussion"... I had one look in mind - they had (sort of) a different version. Guess what? It'll be done my way. Sanderson Lakesters. Although I did tell them they are free to build custom 304 stainless headers as long as they look exactly like that or slightly modified if we agree...:D I'd like a more 'customized' dump and block off... than the usual 3 bolt... but we can whack off the Sanderson version and water jet some new "mo betta" ones.:woot:

Yes I can see the car whenever I want, seen it a few times already. Sheesh, I was just looking out for the Lat-g community. WE like color renderings here! So we can get the full effect. I don't need a rendering just a few chicken scratches on a napkin.

GregWeld
10-15-2010, 01:18 PM
I just don't want to pay him for something I don't need.... I'm the kind that would rather buy parts. :unibrow:

tones2SS
10-15-2010, 05:08 PM
I just don't want to pay him for something I don't need.... I'm the kind that would rather buy parts. :unibrow:

I like your thinking!:yes:

nvr2fst
10-15-2010, 07:22 PM
Heres one for ya Greg, similiar build features your looking into. I like your definition of a adult gocart. http://www.picturearchive.co.za/index.php/cms/contentview/action/view/frmContentId/16154/image/0/name/1932%20Ford%20highboy%20roadster%20-%20red%20-%20fvl%20/

70rs
10-15-2010, 08:46 PM
Very cool project Greg. I can't wait to see it in person.:thumbsup:

ProTouring442
10-16-2010, 04:27 AM
stay away from the hilborn set-up go with the Inglese set up .they use a comon plenum under the base to equal the runner volume .

Thanks guys... but you're preaching to the choir -- I already run one of my cars with an Inglese intake (using Imagine Injection TB's).... and I totally "get" the plenum. I took my polished weber intake off (that used lines to a small common plenum for the MAP sensor) -- as soon as I could get my hands on the Inglese unit.

I would never use the Hilborn unit -- that was just Steve's description when I said "I'll run an 8 stack injection unit".

I am a bit confused on this. Why would the plenum be necessary? Wouldn't 8 individual throttles provide better throttle response? I ask because all of the factory cars I know of, Ferrari, my M5, etc that use individual throttles do not use a common plenum.

Thanks!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

GregWeld
10-20-2010, 06:23 PM
I am a bit confused on this. Why would the plenum be necessary? Wouldn't 8 individual throttles provide better throttle response? I ask because all of the factory cars I know of, Ferrari, my M5, etc that use individual throttles do not use a common plenum.

Thanks!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill


Bill --- I have no idea buddy! :rofl:

All I do know is that with the common plenum in the Inglese intake - I have plenty of vacuum for the items that need it. BTW -- Just so there's no confusion -- the plenum is not like a carb plenum -- there's no common area for the intake side -- just for creating a vacuum source. Otherwise each TB has it's own runner. Make sense?

GregWeld
10-20-2010, 06:27 PM
My only "update" is that the rear end has been ordered from Kugel -- and the appropriate deposit sent to SAR... so work should be cranking up here shortly if not started already.

I was reading the threads on the "full floater" rear ends - ala Matt and Gonzo... and I was chuckling to myself. I'm not sure what those bad boys run - and I'm certain they're expensive - but a fully chromed out "show" rear end like the one I just ordered is an OMG! Worse - it won't improve handling one dang bit!

Oh well.... it's "hot rodding" right?!:woot:

96z28ss
10-20-2010, 07:20 PM
I was there today at SAR for other things and your car is not being worked on, maybe in a couple weeks.

GregWeld
10-20-2010, 08:12 PM
Yeah -- figured that - the rear end is a major component for what we're doing and it just now got ordered - and is 4 to 6 weeks out... no point in tearing the car apart quite yet.

Thanks for the update though!!

:cheers:

awr68
10-20-2010, 08:54 PM
Greg are you changing the ride height at all? I know tire size is being changed. Did you order the wheels yet? How bout the coffee holder?

GregWeld
10-20-2010, 09:05 PM
Well -- good questions -- it's a highboy -- think there's a reason for that name... A low boy would have the body channeled over the frame giving a lower look.

Wheels are going to be 20's rear and 17's front. And we're doing 215/50/17s and 295/45/20's BFG KDAs is the thinking right now.

I wanted more rake - nose down... but that will have to be done with wheel/tire size selection since we don't have adjustments for coil over mounts etc. Actually on these style cars - you want the ass in the air - so you can see that extremely expensive rear end I just bought! LOL

My buddy Stans 32 sits lower and looks lower sitting next to mine in this photo. His car was a "great 8 Riddler" in 1994 and runs all torsion bar suspension front and back (pretty high tech stuff in '94). He's running an IRS as well, but I don't think I can get down there.

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/IMG_1010.jpg

GregWeld
10-20-2010, 09:28 PM
Steve won't let me put a coffee cup holder in... LOL

I wanted one built in a console type deal - but he said NO. So have to go with what the pros know. I'll just buy a plastic beanbag jobbie at Fred Meyer I guess... and then toss it in the trunk when not in use.

awr68
10-20-2010, 09:42 PM
I can't help it...I like them low like Stan's! Tell him hi for me!
Looks like the pic was taken at PIR?

GregWeld
10-20-2010, 10:15 PM
I like 'em low too -- and will do what we can.

Yes - Beaches - Wednesday afternoon show...

96z28ss
10-21-2010, 12:09 AM
Okay, its your car if you want a cup holder then have one put in.
The problem is the're thinking its not cool. What if you challenged them to add a cup holder that was engineered to be hidden, and fits in a very small space.
Saabs have been known to have some cool ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMxsf7PA95E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wX00yKAFsE

Here is a Mercedes SL500
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wX00yKAFsE

ProTouring442
10-21-2010, 05:44 AM
Bill --- I have no idea buddy! :rofl:

All I do know is that with the common plenum in the Inglese intake - I have plenty of vacuum for the items that need it. BTW -- Just so there's no confusion -- the plenum is not like a carb plenum -- there's no common area for the intake side -- just for creating a vacuum source. Otherwise each TB has it's own runner. Make sense?

OK, that makes sense. I was thinking it was more like a carb plenum, but this is just to balance out a good vacuum signal. Got it!

Thanks!
Bill

GregWeld
10-21-2010, 07:49 AM
OK, that makes sense. I was thinking it was more like a carb plenum, but this is just to balance out a good vacuum signal. Got it!

Thanks!
Bill

Bill --- here's some pics of the INGLESE intake to show you what they did.

So the bottom of the intake has a nice cover over it:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Inglese%20Intake/DSC_7776.jpg

Shown here with the cover removed - if you look closely you can see the small holes from the runner to this common plenum area:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Inglese%20Intake/DSC_7782.jpg


Here's the holes from runner to the plenum area -- so you can see how this really only creates vacuum -- not really a common area with the problems of reversion etc:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Inglese%20Intake/DSC_7778.jpg

GregWeld
10-21-2010, 08:02 AM
Okay, its your car if you want a cup holder then have one put in.
The problem is the're thinking its not cool. What if you challenged them to add a cup holder that was engineered to be hidden, and fits in a very small space.
Saabs have been known to have some cool ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMxsf7PA95E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wX00yKAFsE

Here is a Mercedes SL500
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wX00yKAFsE

Bob -- I think he's right with the "no" on the cup holder.... for a couple of reasons -- the first one being - it's a manual trans - and drinking coffee in a moving car is hard enough.... with the stick it's almost impossible... and I do "spill" once in a while - and the square weave carpet is not the best for clean up... and it's really just not a hot rod item.... so I agreed with him (those weren't Steve's reasons - he just said NO)... because when I thought about it... it just doesn't work. I'm okay with that.

My alternate option I came up with was to do a Mooneyes tank in front of the grill shell - and run a line into the drivers side that I can suck on . I've talked to my dentist to source one of those "J" shaped ends like they hang in your mouth some times. I think the coffee running in a clear hose would look old skool like we used to use clear or red fuel lines. Mooneyes offers a tank with a pressure pump - so I could just add some pressure to the tank - add a check valve - and a brake bias valve - and viola! Got Coffee on tap! :woot:

96z28ss
10-21-2010, 09:33 AM
I had cup holders in manual stick cars. Never stoped me from drinking while driving. But I can understand, your getting up there in age now and multi-tasking is becoming to much for you to handle.

The moon eye tank idea, not bad but it would have to be thermolated cause it would be ice coffee in just a few miles.

GregWeld
10-21-2010, 11:24 AM
But I can understand, your getting up there in age now and multi-tasking is becoming to much for you to handle.

What were we talking about?


:_paranoid

BRIAN
10-21-2010, 04:10 PM
The stacks are cool but the price to cool ratio is a bit off since they cost more than a blower. About 5 years ago Inglese was cleaning house and selling off a lot of odd stuff. They had a 4X2 inline vintage Weber looking manifold. It looked like an old Ferrari with all those carbs inline. It used an offset dist to clear the rear carb. It was super cool and different. They had a billet 1 piece air cleaner that just looked funny. Would loved to have seen it with short stacks and screens.

Just throwing out an idea to make the SBC a little different. They sold it for like $15-1800. Yes, I should have bought it!!

GregWeld
10-21-2010, 04:43 PM
Yes Inglese - or any 8 stacks for that matter - aren't exactly "cost effective" -- but is anything we do with these toys? :_paranoid

I personally like the old skool kool of the multi "carb" look on these cars...

Ala my Nomad which has a combo of the new Inglese intake but using the Imagine Injection throttle bodies.... and I can mix up the looks using different stacks and or filters...


I have the full on filtered billet look.....

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Nomad%20Breather%20install/IMG_0979.jpg


Or the 2 1/2" short stack / screened look....


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Nomad%20Breather%20install/ShortStack002.jpg


Or the 5" tall nasty stack look....

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Nomad%20build/DSC_4350.jpg


Or the way it currently is set up.... short Cooks filters with the painted valve covers....

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Inglese%20Intake/IMG_1020.jpg

Flash68
10-21-2010, 05:07 PM
Nice pics Greg. I like versions 2 and 4 myself!

GregWeld
10-21-2010, 05:15 PM
Thanks!

I like the "current" version with the painted valve covers. They "frame" the stacks and make them pop a bit.

Since this old POS is just a driver... I just play with it all the time. My wife calls it my "rolling experimental platform". :lol:

I like the tall stacks - but they're within a 1/2" of the hood in the front and with no 'filters' I really don't like driving it that way. I'm on pins and needles waiting for a rock or something to be swallowed!

RECOVERY ROOM
10-22-2010, 06:12 AM
Steve won't let me put a coffee cup holder in... LOL

I wanted one built in a console type deal - but he said NO. So have to go with what the pros know. I'll just buy a plastic beanbag jobbie at Fred Meyer I guess... and then toss it in the trunk when not in use.

Hide one in the seat bottom and it will never be seen till you want it.:unibrow:

GregWeld
10-22-2010, 07:45 AM
I'm not redoing the interior.....

Or do you have an idea how to do this with the existing seat covering etc?

RECOVERY ROOM
10-22-2010, 09:51 AM
There should be a way to do it with the seat you have, Send me some pics of the front of it and I could look and see if it is easy or not worth it

GregWeld
10-22-2010, 11:54 AM
There should be a way to do it with the seat you have, Send me some pics of the front of it and I could look and see if it is easy or not worth it

BOB!! Jump on it dude! :rofl: :rofl:

You're down there - can you snap a pix of the front like Tracy is asking for??

I'll let you walk around with me at SEMA if you do!


:thumbsup:

96z28ss
10-22-2010, 12:05 PM
BOB!! Jump on it dude! :rofl: :rofl:

You're down there - can you snap a pix of the front like Tracy is asking for??

I'll let you walk around with me at SEMA if you do!


:thumbsup:

Your a funny guy!! They put your car in storage. I'll take a pic as soon as I can. Or call and talk to Chuck or Dave, and tell them you need a pic of the front of the seat asap.

GregWeld
10-22-2010, 12:10 PM
Figures they'd stick it in a dark hole somewhere --- I just paid them! Take the money and run baby!

EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA

96z28ss
10-22-2010, 01:18 PM
Figures they'd stick it in a dark hole somewhere --- I just paid them! Take the money and run baby!

EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA

Well its well protected. Less chance of getting dirty or a chip in it.

tones2SS
10-22-2010, 02:48 PM
I like the "current" version with the painted valve covers. They "frame" the stacks and make them pop a bit.

I like the tall stacks - but they're within a 1/2" of the hood in the front and with no 'filters' I really don't like driving it that way. I'm on pins and needles waiting for a rock or something to be swallowed!

That does look good actually.:thumbsup:
I'd be afraid of rocks going down the stacks as well. That would not be good.:_paranoid

GregWeld
10-24-2010, 11:13 AM
Got a chuckle to myself when my new plate arrived for the 32.... Since to me it reads "re-deuce" since I'm redoing the whole car -- but of course it's also a RED deuce...


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/IMG_1027.jpg

awr68
10-24-2010, 11:17 AM
Cool! That was fast!

GregWeld
11-05-2010, 08:23 PM
So my perfectly nice little 32 Ford now looks a bit disassembled. :rofl:


A group of us got some good laughs while discussing what I "bought" while having dinner at SEMA -- the consensus was I bought two frame rails - the front upper and lower A arms... and a body. :thumbsup:

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/photo_4.jpg

tones2SS
11-06-2010, 10:55 AM
Very cool. :thumbsup:

96z28ss
11-09-2010, 10:47 AM
Moderators,
Greg isn't a new member and needs no introduction Can we move this to the project section. This is a project if I've ever seen one.
Was there yesterday discussing work on another project and had to take a picture of what Greg bought.
Greg is such a bargin shopper. He got such a good deal on this. Oh the picture has front wheels on it that he isn't going to use, so that gets put in the scrap pile.

http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/gallery/misc/photo.jpg

rwhite692
11-09-2010, 12:51 PM
Ya but Greg said he will be able to re-use the lugnuts and the valve stem caps.

GregWeld
11-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Ya but Greg said he will be able to re-use the lugnuts and the valve stem caps.

Like Gwen reminds me of "regularly" -- every car I ever buy is PERFECT.... then I tear it all apart and change everything.

:willy: :woot:

Blake Foster
11-09-2010, 03:23 PM
Got a chuckle to myself when my new plate arrived for the 32.... Since to me it reads "re-deuce" since I'm redoing the whole car -- but of course it's also a RED deuce...


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/IMG_1027.jpg

Reuse, Recycle :lol: :lol: keep our earth green

DOOM
11-09-2010, 04:42 PM
Love it Greg keep the updates coming!!

GregWeld
11-09-2010, 04:47 PM
Yeah Mario! I have about as much car left as you do!! :rofl:

DOOM
11-09-2010, 04:51 PM
You ain't $hit'n:lol: Dam I thought I was in deep:faint:

GregWeld
11-09-2010, 07:57 PM
Here's the proposed new dash.... What do you guys think? It's typical '32 Ford but I like it. Hard to reinvent a '32 dash...

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/WELDDASH002.jpg


And I ordered an Inglese 8 stack -- like this -- except the INTAKE will be powder coated (for a "base") and then painted the Ferrari red.... everything else will be full polished. The block is red - I'm putting on aluminum heads - and then the intake painted - for something a little different. Kenny D talked me into having it powder coated first to seal it. Smart! Thanks Kenny!

I hate their v stacks - so will top it with some from Cook Enterprises ala my Nomad.


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/IMG_1073.jpg

coolwelder62
11-09-2010, 08:02 PM
Nice build.Wouldn't mind having a 32 coupe myself.:thumbsup:

GregWeld
11-09-2010, 08:09 PM
Thanks Scott!

I never thought I'd like one - until I drove one! It's an adult go kart...

EEEEEHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!

I didn't go out to buy one - just found this one at an auction and bought it - then drove it.... straight to a SAR's shop to have it completely done over. :faint: :D

nvr2fst
11-09-2010, 08:22 PM
Intake is going to look bad a!# There's nothing like having other builders telling you how to spent the coin LOL Smart suggestion on Kennys part now you have to ship him the car:lol:

Interior? I like the typical look on the deuces but I would suggest contouring the bench seat in alittle around the shifter.

GregWeld
11-09-2010, 08:28 PM
Intake is going to look bad a!# There's nothing like having other builders telling you how to spent the coin LOL Smart suggestion on Kennys part now you have to ship him the car:lol:

Interior? I like the typical look on the deuces but I would suggest contouring the bench seat in alittle around the shifter.


Interior is already done... I'm changing the dash (the one in the car was a bad imitation of what should have been engine turned - but it was plastic wannbe stuff - LOL). The leather in the car is brand new and very very nice. I'm going to change the carpet to a squareweave -- because we're moving the shifter forward from the seat, so will have a hole in the old stuff. Going from the 6 speed to a 5 speed TKO 600 so we can move the position and get it away from the seat.

nvr2fst
11-09-2010, 08:40 PM
^^^^^
I like your thinking Greg. This is going to be one nice "adult go cart"

Lenie
11-09-2010, 11:28 PM
So my perfectly nice little 32 Ford now looks a bit disassembled. :rofl:


A group of us got some good laughs while discussing what I "bought" while having dinner at SEMA -- the consensus was I bought two frame rails - the front upper and lower A arms... and a body. :thumbsup:

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/photo_4.jpg



Greg, have I got a great car for you. It's a 1966 chevelle, just needs final paint. Pictured below:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :cheers:















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waynieZ
11-10-2010, 05:19 AM
Good one Lenie !
How did I miss this! Shame on me.
Sweet looking 32 Greg. Your making some great changes. I love those quick chane diff setups in these car. It just seems to belong. Keep the updates coming.

GregWeld
11-10-2010, 06:15 AM
Would you take $35K? It's absolutely PERFECT!




Greg, have I got a great car for you. It's a 1966 chevelle, just needs final paint. Pictured below:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :cheers:





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fleetus macmullitz
11-10-2010, 06:32 AM
Cook's stuff looks nice.

http://www.ccookenterprises.com/images/airCleaner/air090075close_lg.jpg (http://www.ccookenterprises.com/airCleaners/domedcleaners.html)
(http://www.ccookenterprises.com/airCleaners/domedcleaners.html)

GregWeld
11-10-2010, 06:36 AM
No rendering yet?

I thought the 37 was a long hauler type project. Something you and your wife could enjoy to take a road trip in to wine country. She isn't going to want to do it in a 32 ford.

We've been talking about buying a place in vinoland.... so this would be the perfect rod for that area... ya think? I'd drop her off at one of those tasting places and have them call me when she can't feel her lips.... :willy: :woot:



I'd just love to be closer to Charley! :D

GregWeld
11-10-2010, 06:39 AM
Cook's stuff looks nice.

http://www.ccookenterprises.com/images/airCleaner/air090075close_lg.jpg (http://www.ccookenterprises.com/airCleaners/domedcleaners.html)
(http://www.ccookenterprises.com/airCleaners/domedcleaners.html)


YEPPERS SKIPPERS! I like the way you think dude! :unibrow:

My '56 Nomad.....


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Inglese%20Intake/IMG_1020.jpg

fleetus macmullitz
11-10-2010, 07:01 AM
We've been talking about buying a place in vinoland.... so this would be the perfect rod for that area... ya think? I'd drop her off at one of those tasting places and have them call me when she can't feel her lips.... :willy: :woot:


I'd just love to be closer to Charley! :D

:lol: ² !

tones2SS
11-10-2010, 10:02 AM
Should be a fun ride when complete that's for sure. "Adult go-kart" is right. :unibrow: Awesome looking intake Greg.:thumbsup: :cheers:

96z28ss
11-10-2010, 10:08 AM
Greg, have I got a great car for you. It's a 1966 chevelle, just needs final paint. Pictured below:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :cheers:




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Now thats classic! Thats how Greg buys cars.

pacificustoms
11-10-2010, 10:31 AM
We've been talking about buying a place in vinoland.... so this would be the perfect rod for that area... ya think? I'd drop her off at one of those tasting places and have them call me when she can't feel her lips.... :willy: :woot:



I'd just love to be closer to Charley! :D

Next time you're down in this winecountry you're more then welcome to stop by our shop. We're the second business outside of the Napa city limits.

GregWeld
11-15-2010, 12:17 PM
Just ordered a Smeding Performance 383 SBC with EFI. They have a special on them for $4995 COMPLETE with the EFI etc. I'll rip that all off and stick the Inglese 8 stack and use a FAST EZ EFI on it but couldn't pass up a "deal" like that on a nicely built motor.

Seems the one that came in the car has some "odd" cylinder pressure readings and some real loose leak-down numbers. Rather than rebuild it - I just bought this new motor and we'll go with that.

The Smeding motor comes with aluminum heads and a warranty. It's a no brainer!


http://www.smedingperformance.com/chevy383touringefi/Chevy383TouringEFI.html

tones2SS
11-15-2010, 04:12 PM
Very nice Greg. Should be a great fit. Will look great with your intake on top. Not too shabby with that 430 TQ.:thumbsup: :cheers:

Flash68
11-15-2010, 08:05 PM
We've been talking about buying a place in vinoland....

Now that's a great plan! :thumbsup:

Just ordered a Smeding Performance 383 SBC with EFI. They have a special on them for $4995 COMPLETE with the EFI etc. I'll rip that all off and stick the Inglese 8 stack and use a FAST EZ EFI on it but couldn't pass up a "deal" like that on a nicely built motor.

Seems the one that came in the car has some "odd" cylinder pressure readings and some real loose leak-down numbers. Rather than rebuild it - I just bought this new motor and we'll go with that.

The Smeding motor comes with aluminum heads and a warranty. It's a no brainer!


http://www.smedingperformance.com/chevy383touringefi/Chevy383TouringEFI.html

Nice motor, but ONLY 370 hp? Come on, you can handle more than that! :willy:

GregWeld
11-15-2010, 08:09 PM
Have you ever driven a 370 HP 5 speed 3:70 geared Go Kart??

:rofl:

Flash68
11-15-2010, 08:14 PM
Have you ever driven a 370 HP 5 speed 3:70 geared Go Kart??

:rofl:

Not since this morning! :_paranoid

GregWeld
11-15-2010, 08:18 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :woot:

waynieZ
11-16-2010, 07:18 AM
Thats going to be a sweet power plant for this car. Nice to drive with plenty of get up and go when you want it.

clill
11-16-2010, 07:21 AM
We've been talking about buying a place in vinoland.... so this would be the perfect rod for that area... ya think? I'd drop her off at one of those tasting places and have them call me when she can't feel her lips.... :willy: :woot:



I'd just love to be closer to Charley! :D

As long as you will loan me money....

GregWeld
11-16-2010, 11:18 AM
As long as you will loan me money....

You'll never move! You have the koolest property on the entire planet!

:hail: :hail: :D

I've got $10 in my pocket and two maxed out credit cards.... will that help?:unibrow:

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 07:31 AM
Got the drawing - first sketch - of the headers. I decided I wanted custom built rather than the standard "Sanderson" Lakester header. And built from food grade polished stainless steel. What do you guys think?


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/GWELD001.jpg

tones2SS
11-17-2010, 07:33 AM
I like it Greg.:thumbsup: I like the "away" and "down" bends.
How long of a wait to have the headers custom made?

bentfab
11-17-2010, 08:30 AM
Got the drawing - first sketch - of the headers. I decided I wanted custom built rather than the standard "Sanderson" Lakester header. And built from food grade polished stainless steel. What do you guys think?


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/GWELD001.jpg

Do the arrows help you remember which way the exhaust flows ? :rofl:

I think you got more time in the drawing than what it will take to make.

Looks good !!

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 02:39 PM
I like it Greg.:thumbsup: I like the "away" and "down" bends.
How long of a wait to have the headers custom made?

They'll do them right there at the shop. We'll, of course, wait til the motor is back in the chassis etc.

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 02:48 PM
Funny Mark! But I think you're right. I was at SAR today - will post pics in a minute.... Told them "I do not want headers that look like they belong on a bucket T"! They understood what I was saying. Now -- They'll have to find the tapered tube! That might take some doing.

awr68
11-17-2010, 02:50 PM
Looks good to me! Keep crackin' that whip! Summers just around the bend.....kinda! :lol:

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 03:02 PM
I've went to SAR today to work out a few more details -- there's always lots of details even on a simple little POS like this!

They're going to cut down the column drop and 1/4 over the edges to make it a bit "neater" - it's too large as is. Easier to whack this one than set up a new one - thus the green tape and cut lines.

The new dash installed for me to "okay":

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/IMG_1134.jpg

I asked them to hide the headlight switch and the heater controls under the dash - to keep this nice a simple. Also going to use a beige faced gauge with red pointer ala the Classic Vintage set like shown here:

http://www.classicinstruments.com/seriesdetail.aspx?SeriesCode=VT


The firewall is repaired and painted as is the the rear valance where the old exhaust had cutouts sculpted in the body.


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/IMG_1135.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/IMG_1132.jpg

awr68
11-17-2010, 03:09 PM
Hey mister! You were to call me next time you came down! I had today off and could have made the trip over there!

Car looks good....nice improvements!! :thumbsup:

96z28ss
11-17-2010, 03:39 PM
Hey mister! You were to call me next time you came down! I had today off and could have made the trip over there!

Car looks good....nice improvements!! :thumbsup:

ditto!
especially when Im in Steve's neighborhood.

its okay though I undertand he doesn't have time for us common folk.

96z28ss
11-17-2010, 03:41 PM
Don't you think you should change the windshield and frame.
Your going for more of a Vintage Dry lake look and the winshield frame screams modern billet, I think it will look out of place to much.

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 03:57 PM
Nah -- I'm going for the bastard child look.

:D

awr68
11-17-2010, 04:03 PM
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/IMG_1135.jpg


Yeah! You got a great deal on that car!! :lol:

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 04:07 PM
Yeah! You got a great deal on that car!! :lol:



I didn't buy it because I got a "deal".... and I'm having fun making it just exactly the way I want it. I'm just real lucky that I don't have to make it "financially work out".

EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

awr68
11-17-2010, 04:12 PM
I know - just poking fun!
Are the wheels on order? I can't wait to see them!

bentfab
11-17-2010, 04:14 PM
I didn't buy it because I got a "deal".... and I'm having fun making it just exactly the way I want it. I'm just real lucky that I don't have to make it "financially work out".

EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Sure about that :question: It's at S.A.R.

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 04:20 PM
Yes Tony -- we discussed getting the wheels on order when I was there today.

Mark -- Trust me.... I don't care who's doing the work it will cost more and take twice as long as "everyone" planned. :yes: But I really could care less. After doing this stuff for almost 40 years... I know exactly what's what. I'm not into wasting money and I'm not doing a bunch of custom mods "just because nobody has ever done that before...." I'm just having fun getting what I want. It probably would have been easier just to build a car from scratch. We laughed about this at SEMA -- that I had just bought two frame rails and some upper and lower A arms and a body.

tones2SS
11-17-2010, 04:35 PM
Looks good Greg. Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

bentfab
11-17-2010, 04:54 PM
Yes Tony -- we discussed getting the wheels on order when I was there today.

Mark -- Trust me.... I don't care who's doing the work it will cost more and take twice as long as "everyone" planned. :yes: But I really could care less. After doing this stuff for almost 40 years... I know exactly what's what. I'm not into wasting money and I'm not doing a bunch of custom mods "just because nobody has ever done that before...." I'm just having fun getting what I want. It probably would have been easier just to build a car from scratch. We laughed about this at SEMA -- that I had just bought two frame rails and some upper and lower A arms and a body.


Trust me I wish I was in your shoes. I just gotta give you a hard time :woot:

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 05:32 PM
Trust me I wish I was in your shoes. I just gotta give you a hard time :woot:

I know... and I work hard for that bad time! :D

I really do know I'm going about this all wrong. But it's kind of the way I do all my stuff... so why break a nice losing streak!

My wife will tell you --- "every car he ever bought was PERFECT.... and then he tears 'em all apart and re-does them". She's right of course. No argument from me. :rolleyes:

RECOVERY ROOM
11-17-2010, 06:29 PM
Everybody will do that sometime if you build enuf cars:lol: Thats why swap meets were invented.....I'll get you set up for that new interior when it is done at SAR (just kidding) Had to do it.

GregWeld
11-17-2010, 08:44 PM
Everybody will do that sometime if you build enuf cars:lol: Thats why swap meets were invented.....I'll get you set up for that new interior when it is done at SAR (just kidding) Had to do it.

Tracy --- Check out the interior rendering (sounds like a meat plant!) where he IS going to do a console with the push button start and two cup holders for me..... and you'll do the '37.... or maybe I'll rip out that crappy old Gabe Lopez interior in the Nomad and have you do a proper one...

EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA


I'm thinkin' that Mister Braga put a bug in his ear...

96z28ss
11-17-2010, 10:29 PM
Tracy --- Check out the interior rendering (sounds like a meat plant!) where he IS going to do a console with the push button start and two cup holders for me..... and you'll do the '37.... or maybe I'll rip out that crappy old Gabe Lopez interior in the Nomad and have you do a proper one...

EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA


I'm thinkin' that Mister Braga put a bug in his ear...

no sir bugs in the ear are hard to get out. :rofl:

If you wanted cup holder then thats what you get, or pay for, same thing.

lhkustoms
11-17-2010, 11:01 PM
..... Now -- They'll have to find the tapered tube! That might take some doing.

Greg, thats what a slip roll is for. I am sure Tim will do a killer job on the lakesters. :thumbsup:

96z28ss
11-18-2010, 12:36 AM
Yeah Tim will do a great Job, but Greg wants it all out of Food grade stainless polished inside and out. Which is bought in diameters and lengths. The bends are also only a certain radius. I'm pretty sure the compnay they get the stainless from can make you a tapered pipe. Its just $$

fleetus macmullitz
11-18-2010, 08:56 AM
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/32fordred01.gif



Red is good.

GregWeld
11-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Red is good.


Skippers,


It's the closest I'll ever get to a Ferrari! :rofl: :rofl:

Lenie
11-18-2010, 04:34 PM
My new screen saver......

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=26597&d=1285551320

until you get yours done Greg:unibrow:
I'm gonna like seeing this one in person once your finished.

GregWeld
11-18-2010, 04:44 PM
My new screen saver......

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=26597&d=1285551320

until you get yours done Greg:unibrow:
I'm gonna like seeing this one in person once your finished.

That's Charley's "Stacked".... just a killer '32!

Mine will be just a mild resto rod... for cruising around. Easy to drive... and a just for fun build. One of the reasons I didn't go hotter on the engine.

Flash68
11-18-2010, 07:50 PM
Greg.. I like the plan... keep it simple so you can actually drive and enjoy it before 2017. :thumbsup: :lol:

GregWeld
11-18-2010, 09:07 PM
Dave -- That's the reason I'm not building it (or re-doing it). I want to drive it this spring!

Flash68
11-19-2010, 12:33 AM
Dave -- That's the reason I'm not building it (or re-doing it). I want to drive it this spring!

Git er dun quicker and drive to RTTC ;)

GregWeld
11-19-2010, 08:03 AM
Git er dun quicker and drive to RTTC ;)

Tell ya what Dave... I'll buy you airfare and you come up here and drive 'er down with me! A roadster going over Mt Shasta in late February should be a hoot!

fleetus macmullitz
11-19-2010, 08:31 AM
Since this project is snowballing...sounds like a job for Quadradeuce part deux ala Weld.

Lookin' forward to that.

:lol:

GregWeld
11-19-2010, 09:00 AM
Since this project is snowballing...sounds like a job for Quadradeuce part deux ala Weld.

Lookin' forward to that.

:lol:

Snowballing? I have no idea what you mean. Let's recap the work being done to my 600 mile fresh "re-deuce":

Body removed from chassis
Rear end and all mounts removed from chassis
Minor body repair
Install new Kugel Champ quick change
Check Kugel IFS for proper caster installation - cut and set up properly if required
R&R dash and gauges
Modify Steering column drop
New Steering wheel
R&R fuel tank for internal EFI pump
Check and R&R all wiring
Repair floor area and relocate emergency brake
Flatten floor space in trunk
New Motor
R&R T56 with TKO 600 5 speed
New flywheel - clutch - driveline
New Inglese EFI 8 stack
Custom Stainless Steel polished headers and exhaust - using V clamps
Check and relocate motor if required
Install MSD
Install Joe Hunt Magneto
New Wheels - Schott Velocity's
New tires
New square weave carpet
R&R grill shell
Fabricate new pan area in front of grill shell between front frame horns
Fabricate fan shroud and new electric fan/s
R&R hood mechanism
Remove hood sides
Add leather hood straps (4) with springs and buckles
Fabricate console with cup holders and push button start
Fabricate light bar and install new Commercial style headlights
Paint engine and transmission
Complete paint of frame
Paint other parts as required


I might be missing some items requiring additional attention. :rofl: :woot:

ccracin
11-19-2010, 09:20 AM
Snowballing? I have no idea what you mean. Let's recap the work being done to my 600 mile fresh "re-deuce":

Body removed from chassis
Rear end and all mounts removed from chassis
Minor body repair
Install new Kugel Champ quick change
Check Kugel IFS for proper caster installation - cut and set up properly if required
R&R dash and gauges
Modify Steering column drop
New Steering wheel
R&R fuel tank for internal EFI pump
Check and R&R all wiring
Repair floor area and relocate emergency brake
Flatten floor space in trunk
New Motor
R&R T56 with TKO 600 5 speed
New flywheel - clutch - driveline
New Inglese EFI 8 stack
Custom Stainless Steel polished headers and exhaust - using V clamps
Check and relocate motor if required
Install MSD
Install Joe Hunt Magneto
New Wheels - Schott Velocity's
New tires
New square weave carpet
R&R grill shell
Fabricate new pan area in front of grill shell between front frame horns
Fabricate fan shroud and new electric fan/s
R&R hood mechanism
Remove hood sides
Add leather hood straps (4) with springs and buckles
Fabricate console with cup holders and push button start
Fabricate light bar and install new Commercial style headlights
Paint engine and transmission
Complete paint of frame
Paint other parts as required


I might be missing some items requiring additional attention. :rofl: :woot:

Psssst.... You done yet? That's just a simple punch list! EEEEAAAAHHHH!

fleetus macmullitz
11-19-2010, 09:25 AM
Nice Weldification.

Looks like just a little more than a normal Ferrari service...so not bad.

:D

awr68
11-19-2010, 09:29 AM
so your getting the coffee holders eigh? Probably a good idea since it's not a auto trans!

I think you forgot 'the killer sound system w/ NAV'! I know that's your favorite part of SEMA after all!! ;)

JKnight
11-19-2010, 09:52 AM
Hey Greg, what's a "commercial style headlight"

Maybe it's my lack of hot-rod knowledge, but I'm envisioning flourescents with those grids over them ;)

96z28ss
11-19-2010, 10:01 AM
so your getting the coffee holders eigh? Probably a good idea since it's not a auto trans!

I think you forgot 'the killer sound system w/ NAV'! I know that's your favorite part of SEMA after all!! ;)

Funny thing, On the way to RTTC the Navi unit in the Truck dies. Greg had to go to best buy and get a nuvi. Of course its got all the cool features. I kept saying the whole trip my nuvi doesn't do that.

awr68
11-19-2010, 10:07 AM
I'm pretty sure he can fit a double DIN in there! Full blue tooth, DVD...the works! Then he can watch American Graffiti when crusin! :thumbsup: :cheers:

96z28ss
11-19-2010, 10:19 AM
I'm pretty sure he can fit a double DIN in there! Full blue tooth, DVD...the works! Then he can watch American Graffiti when crusin! :thumbsup: :cheers:

plenty of room, it could also come out from under the dash on a motorized arm so its hidden when its parked.
Come on Greg make some phone calls make it happen.
Or do you need me to go down there and make it happen LOL

GregWeld
11-19-2010, 11:39 AM
Hey Greg, what's a "commercial style headlight"

Maybe it's my lack of hot-rod knowledge, but I'm envisioning flourescents with those grids over them ;)

It's larger and flatter than the lights that came on the cars -- it was the style used on pickup trucks of the day.

GregWeld
11-19-2010, 11:40 AM
so your getting the coffee holders eigh? Probably a good idea since it's not a auto trans!

I think you forgot 'the killer sound system w/ NAV'! I know that's your favorite part of SEMA after all!! ;)


If I get the exhaust right - you won't be able to hear a stereo....

Flash68
11-19-2010, 11:42 AM
Tell ya what Dave... I'll buy you airfare and you come up here and drive 'er down with me! A roadster going over Mt Shasta in late February should be a hoot!

That's a might kind and fun offer I'd say... don't forget we'd have to stop here in Norcal to pick up my little disaster for the rest of the road trip. No need for a stereo in mine - wouldn't hear a thing anyway. :thumbsup:

96z28ss
11-19-2010, 12:00 PM
That's a might kind and fun offer I'd say... don't forget we'd have to stop here in Norcal to pick up my little disaster for the rest of the road trip. No need for a stereo in mine - wouldn't hear a thing anyway. :thumbsup:

Would need video of this. One of you would get frost bite.

awr68
11-19-2010, 12:02 PM
might consider the narrow tires all the way around to cut through the snow! Burrrrrrrrrrr!!

lhkustoms
11-19-2010, 09:55 PM
........A roadster going over Mt Shasta in late February should be a hoot!

Hell i'd do it I got a beanie :D

and as you would say Greg

eeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhh :lol:

GregWeld
11-20-2010, 07:47 AM
Luke --

We'd keep warm (relatively that is) and dry (again - relatively).... but I'm not sure that tires chains on a roadster is a good look.


EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!:willy: :willy: :willy: :rofl:

GregWeld
11-20-2010, 07:50 AM
plenty of room, it could also come out from under the dash on a motorized arm so its hidden when its parked.
Come on Greg make some phone calls make it happen.
Or do you need me to go down there and make it happen LOL

I was thinking about packin' the trunk full of amps and subs -- and a 36" flat screen hangin' from the boot lid.... all full remote control. Oh -- and some batteries and hydraulics. Nobody has ever done a highboy hopper! I wanna be first!

GregWeld
11-20-2010, 09:50 AM
UPDATE:

I'm using my daily driver - as shown here - for the template on the '32.... except I fully expect the '32 to get in the air better. The caddy is heavy -- but crusin' in this bitch'n' ride is bad to da bone dude!

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/IMG_1139.jpg

fleetus macmullitz
11-20-2010, 10:47 AM
Many things could be said here, but the big guy said it best...

xCc-RWIp7XU

lhkustoms
11-20-2010, 11:02 AM
I was thinking about packin' the trunk full of amps and subs -- and a 36" flat screen hangin' from the boot lid.... all full remote control. Oh -- and some batteries and hydraulics. Nobody has ever done a highboy hopper! I wanna be first!

Greg just add a few of these mods :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2r-ehjV_EU

GregWeld
11-20-2010, 01:15 PM
Many things could be said here, but the big guy said it best...

xCc-RWIp7XU

ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!!!!

tones2SS
11-21-2010, 08:47 AM
ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!!!!
I agree.:yes:

fleetus macmullitz
11-21-2010, 12:22 PM
I think Lurch would've liked the high entry point of your 'daily driver' Greg, and might have been seen often in it terrorizing any and all on the back lots of Hollyweird.

:D

GregWeld
11-23-2010, 03:26 PM
What we need for last night - and todays weather is studded snow tires!

Yikes the weather turned to crap in a hurray! 22* high here today and last night - and a nice thin coat of ice under about 2" of dry powder....

The great Pacific NorthWET just isn't equipped for this kind of stuff! Thank gawd for the BBT (big bouncy truck)... it goes no matter what... and to stop it I just toss out a couple of grappling hooks. It's kinda like running a boat -- never approach anything faster than you're willing to hit it. :D

96z28ss
11-23-2010, 04:19 PM
only the high elavations got something today here in Portland.
But its cold here, said could get down to 17 tonight.

tones2SS
11-23-2010, 04:26 PM
Not digging the fact that snow is soon approaching us. We may get a coating late on Thursday night and very early Friday morning.:willy: :(

fleetus macmullitz
11-23-2010, 04:35 PM
What we need for last night - and todays weather is studded snow tires!

Yikes the weather turned to crap in a hurray! 22* high here today and last night - and a nice thin coat of ice under about 2" of dry powder....

The great Pacific NorthWET just isn't equipped for this kind of stuff! Thank gawd for the BBT (big bouncy truck)... it goes no matter what... and to stop it I just toss out a couple of grappling hooks. It's kinda like running a boat -- never approach anything faster than you're willing to hit it. :D

Funny stuff Greg.

At Thanksgiving I want to remember to be thankful for the old people that make me laugh.

You just made the list fellow.



:D

FRENCHBLUE72
11-28-2010, 10:15 AM
I was actually searching this site when I stumbled upon your build very nice congrats..

GregWeld
11-28-2010, 10:32 AM
Thank you.... <bowing>

It should turn out to be a nice little sunny day ride.

Matt@BOS
11-28-2010, 10:48 AM
Thank you.... <bowing>

It should turn out to be a nice little sunny day ride.

But Greg, why would you build a car you could only drive two weeks out of the entire year :unibrow:

Matt

GregWeld
11-28-2010, 10:54 AM
Uh......... Good question buddy! Except..... as usual <I have an answer for everything! <LOL> This little rod just might be the perfect cruiser for the vineyard/home we're looking to buy in the Sonoma area.


EEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

RECOVERY ROOM
11-28-2010, 03:55 PM
Make sure it has a guest room for me when it gets cold here :rofl:

tyoneal
11-30-2010, 03:26 AM
This is the Kugel Winters Champ Quick Change:

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/image001-1.jpg

That is like a piece of ART!

How much power is it designed to handle?

How much unsprung weight does it save by moving the Brakes inboard?

What size are the brakes?

I love 32's and you have a beauty.

Ty

GregWeld
11-30-2010, 08:55 AM
That is like a piece of ART!

How much power is it designed to handle?

How much unsprung weight does it save by moving the Brakes inboard?

What size are the brakes?

I love 32's and you have a beauty.

Ty

Thanks Ty! It is the perfect rear end for a build like I'm doing... where you can see the entire rear end from the rear of the car. It would be a complete waste in a car that would hide it.

I would imagine that you're saving 10 to 15 lbs per side of unsprung weight. The calipers and rotors are inboard but you have the extra suspension parts and control arm pivot points so it's not a pure negative moving the brakes in.

Here's KUGELS answer to your "how much HP" question:

It's all a function of power to weight to traction. You could have a 1,000 HP on an average street rod and the tires would break loose before anything else would break conversely. A heavier car with great traction and 400 HP will be much harder on the same rear end. Our ends use the proven 9" Ford gears. Heavy duty Corvette u-joints and castors weld steel half shafts. We just don't have any breakage problems. For extra heavy duty high HP we have custom 4-bar auto hub uprights.

Here's a view of the front of this bad boy.... BTW the price of these is not for the faint of heart... You can buy a LOT of other parts for what these bring. Mine was just short of 15 grand - not installed.....

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/quickchangefrontview.jpg

96z28ss
11-30-2010, 09:13 AM
Here's a view of the front of this bad boy.... BTW the price of these is not for the faint of heart... You can buy a LOT of other parts for what these bring. Mine was just short of 15 grand - not installed.....

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/quickchangefrontview.jpg

:faint:

RECOVERY ROOM
11-30-2010, 09:17 AM
Some times it cost to look cool !

tones2SS
11-30-2010, 09:44 AM
That is bad ass looking for sure.:thumbsup:
15K?!:faint:

GregWeld
12-04-2010, 11:21 AM
I'm thinking a few more people might show some more "respect" when they see a hot rod with one of these rear ends in it now.... :unibrow:

Trust me -- until this 'project' -- I had no idea either!


:wow:

GregWeld
12-04-2010, 12:32 PM
This is a link to the open house at SAR where the Roadster is.... Not one single pic of my poor little "woadster".... but gives those of you that are not from around "here" to see the shop.


http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/2010show/stevesopenhousedale/

fleetus macmullitz
12-05-2010, 02:22 AM
Kugel is good.

GregWeld
12-05-2010, 07:12 AM
Kugel is good.

Isn't that a woman's vaginal exercise technique?


:D

tones2SS
12-05-2010, 08:15 AM
Very nice. What a great looking shop. Clean and orderly.
I see they build all sorts of rides, but I'm guessing they are known for their "hot rod" expertise. Tons of rods there. Must be "the place to go".:thumbsup:

GregWeld
12-05-2010, 11:44 AM
Tones --

The shop is full of top notch talent....

Funny thing -- my '32 was the "first hot rod" the shop ever built.... in 1994... and here it is back there getting a minor facelift.

Steve's personal '34 Dodge pickup was a great 8 Riddler car this year....

Flash68
12-05-2010, 02:44 PM
Greg-- that shop is almost too clean. :_paranoid

lhkustoms
12-05-2010, 05:29 PM
Funny thing -- my '32 was the "first hot rod" the shop ever built.... in 1994... and here it is back there getting a minor facelift.

Steve's personal '34 Dodge pickup was a great 8 Riddler car this year....

Greg I remember disassembling the 32 when the owner decided to switch to a steel body. I was thinking it looked familiar.

The dodge truck belongs to a guy up in Canada it's not Steve's.

96z28ss
12-05-2010, 06:38 PM
This is a link to the open house at SAR where the Roadster is.... Not one single pic of my poor little "woadster".... but gives those of you that are not from around "here" to see the shop.


http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature/2010show/stevesopenhousedale/

its in one pic if you look real hard.

96z28ss
12-05-2010, 06:44 PM
Nah the guy in Canada atill owns it, it was up with the owner for a month or so after the riddler. It was at the open house cause, it came back down for a couple repairs.
if you look at the pick of the open house 4th pick from bottom the tan body is what Steve owns.

tones2SS
12-06-2010, 08:27 AM
Tones --
The shop is full of top notch talent....
Funny thing -- my '32 was the "first hot rod" the shop ever built.... in 1994... and here it is back there getting a minor facelift.
Steve's personal '34 Dodge pickup was a great 8 Riddler car this year....
Very cool. That shop does look like it's full of talent. That's a good thing to know. Especially when you place your car/trust AND money in someone else's hands. I'm eager to see how great the ride comes out. I'm sure it will be killer. :thumbsup:

GregWeld
12-09-2010, 04:35 PM
Just in time for Christmas..... a work of art has arrived!


EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5467.jpg

lhkustoms
12-09-2010, 04:37 PM
That sure does look purty there Greg :thumbsup:

waynieZ
12-09-2010, 04:50 PM
I guess men like jewelry too, Shiny !

awr68
12-09-2010, 05:08 PM
Wow that looks great! You just might get me to go over to SAR now!! :thumbsup:

tones2SS
12-10-2010, 08:11 AM
Very nice. Very nice indeed.
I'm sure it's going to look killer underneath that car contrasting the chrome with the color of the car.:yes:

GregWeld
12-10-2010, 05:06 PM
Received the rear yesterday -- and today it's mocked up and ready for welding in....


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5468.jpg




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5469.jpg

96z28ss
12-10-2010, 05:49 PM
All that green tape is gonna cost ya $$!! LOL

GregWeld
12-10-2010, 05:53 PM
It's not the tape that cost! It's the dude that did the taping that I'm thinking about.... LOL


A little tape and a little labor.... 't'aint nuttin' honey compared to what that bad boy co$t....


Sure will look purtty twirling away back there!

awr68
12-10-2010, 07:53 PM
Sure will look purtty twirling away back there!

And that's exactly why I should drive it while you follow me in the BBT! I just hate for you to not see that thing working and looking it's best! ;) :thumbsup:

RECOVERY ROOM
12-10-2010, 08:02 PM
Thats what is was thinking Tony, Good Idea

tones2SS
12-11-2010, 09:50 AM
Looks killer already Greg. Very nice.
Keep the updates coming bud.:thumbsup:

Flash68
12-13-2010, 12:55 AM
Nice bling. :D

What's the ETA on this build Greg? 2012 or 13? :_paranoid

GregWeld
12-13-2010, 07:09 AM
Nice bling. :D

What's the ETA on this build Greg? 2012 or 13? :_paranoid

So I ASSume that you're just not good with a keyboard Dave and that the "0" you put in the date was a typo.... 'cause you meant to say 2/12 or 2/13?

If it goes into April I'll be jumping someone's poo pile!

At this point the rear - which took many weeks on order - is here.... the motor is ordered - the EFI is ordered and the paint sent to them.... I'm going to SAR this morning to discuss the tranny - and get that ordered up....

This is not one of SAR's Riddler builds... this is some tweaks and mods... a little paint a little carpet...:D

waynieZ
12-13-2010, 07:29 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing the unwrapping of the rear when the're done.

Flash68
12-13-2010, 05:59 PM
So I ASSume that you're just not good with a keyboard Dave and that the "0" you put in the date was a typo.... 'cause you meant to say 2/12 or 2/13?



Definitely... maybe. :thumbsup:

awr68
12-13-2010, 06:09 PM
So what did you see/find out today Greg?

GregWeld
12-13-2010, 06:17 PM
Definitely... maybe. :thumbsup:

Was there for a couple hours today -- and we're all kind of shooting for "May".

We're going to whack the front out of the car (Kugel IFS) and try to get the whole car to sit WAY lower... which means we might also need to hack the back to get it all just so. Thus they're not welding in the rear just yet! We also discussed getting the caster just right -- and getting it right with the rack with the chassis set up with the ride/rake it will end up with. There's not much point in dialing in 5* of caster and then taking it all away by jacking up the ass end! LOL

Checked out the rear end -- way kool stuff! Gears in the back make the rear a 3:91 or swap them top for bottom and you have a 4:34 --- Get a couple different "sets" (two gears) and make it something else altogether. Guess that's why they call 'em "quick changes". The rear is really made by WINTERS - it's their CHAMPS unit which is heavy duty... but, of course, it's set up with all the Kugel Komponents arms etc.

pokey64
12-13-2010, 06:37 PM
If it goes into April I'll be jumping someone's poo pile!

Was there for a couple hours today -- and we're all kind of shooting for "May".

Does this mean you have to jump your own poo pile? :_paranoid

GregWeld
12-13-2010, 06:45 PM
Does this mean you have to jump your own poo pile? :_paranoid


Pretty much! I seem to be the one that is increasing the "scope" of the project... Typical customer right! :cheers: :woot:

pokey64
12-13-2010, 07:02 PM
I'm sure you/they are gonna do what it takes to get it "right". Very cool project. I love these little cars! :thumbsup: :cheers:-

mdprovee
12-13-2010, 08:35 PM
WOW Greg, I hate to say it this way, but I will. I like you new rear....end that is.

96z28ss
12-13-2010, 10:04 PM
So basically you could of just kept the a-arms and just gone with a new frame!!

Jims78elky
12-14-2010, 12:34 AM
Received the rear yesterday -- and today it's mocked up and ready for welding in....


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5468.jpg




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5469.jpg


That is going to be so killer on that new ride Greg! Please tell me your going to install a rear view "under the car" camera so you can watch that amazing rear end moving on a nice 7" LCD monitor in the dash..forget the new updated gauges, just looking at that chrome artwork moving under the car is enough! :lol:

:bow: :bow:

Congrats on the project..and its going to be killer when its all done.


-Jim

BBC71Nova
12-14-2010, 06:28 AM
Looks good. If this is just a few "tweaks" I'd be interested to see what your definition of a full on build would be :D

John

GregWeld
12-14-2010, 07:25 AM
WOW Greg, I hate to say it this way, but I will. I like you new rear....end that is.

I am so going to slap you at RTTC!!! :rofl:

So basically you could of just kept the a-arms and just gone with a new frame!!


Yeah.... pretty much. :wow: :wow: :willy:


That is going to be so killer on that new ride Greg! Please tell me your going to install a rear view "under the car" camera so you can watch that amazing rear end moving on a nice 7" LCD monitor in the dash..forget the new updated gauges, just looking at that chrome artwork moving under the car is enough! :lol: -Jim


I like your thinking Jim!



Looks good. If this is just a few "tweaks" I'd be interested to see what your definition of a full on build would be :D

John



Sadly John.... this is kind of the way I always end up doing stuff.... When I used to do NCRS Corvettes -- I had one that I full on frame off restored 3 times in 10 years... My Nomad which I bought ALL DONE 12 years ago - now has a new chassis - it's on it's 4th motor... 3rd core support... 4th aluminum radiator... It is a sickness -- and I've got it. :rofl: :cheers: :woot: