32 Ford "tweaks" and a few mods

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/peek-inside-shop-america-foremost-hot-rodder-163041996.html

Here's some excerpts ...

"Eric (Clapton) is a very, very detail oriented guy when it comes to how the car looks," says Brizio. "But he really doesn't care much about the mechanicals so long as the car runs great."
On the detail front, Clapton spared little expense on the creation of his right-hand-drive 1932 Ford Victoria, which boasts a unique rear end that bows out as compared to standard Victorias which curved in toward the rear wheels. The engine is a Ford 402 that's now capable of 400 horsepower, "or about 100 horsepower more than you need for this sort of car," says Brizio.

Normally a two-door, this version features rear doors in a suicide configuration. Clapton also asked that the top be chopped - though only by one inch - and had two requests that speak squarely toward his other automotive passion: Ferraris.
"He wanted hand-made Borrani wire wheel knock-offs, which are about the most expensive wheels I've ever put on a customer's car," says Brizio, shaking his head. The production of those Italian wheels, famous for having shod all manner of '60s Ferrari coupes, are so labor-intensive that only two have arrived from Italy so far. And Clapton's other Maranello-focused demand? That the Ford's interior be swathed in tan Connolly hides typically reserved for new Prancing Horse cars.

"I asked Eric how I should go about getting the leather, and he just said, 'Don't worry, I'll make a call,'" says Brizio. "Next thing I know, they're at my shop."

This Vicky is coated with a familiar brown metallic hue, in fact, the same brown currently trotting around on a few new Porsche Cayennes and Panameras. "I didn't think it would work, but what do you know, it does," says Brizio, who is not afraid to tell customers what he thinks, sometimes to the point of refusing to work on a car that he feels isn't worth the attention and money someone is about to spend.

Clapton himself seems to have a thing about modern paint schemes on old cars. Not far from the Ford sits his 1950 Chevy Pickup, also right-hand drive, painted in a light green that comes from Aston Martin's current paint roster. "Honestly, when Jeff (Beck) first steered Eric to me, I thought he'd want one car and that'd be it, but that was seven cars and 11 years ago," says Brizio.

It's Beck, however, who has Brizio's ultimate admiration because he works on his own cars. "He does almost everything on them, including welding. Of course, if you think of what his hands are worth, he shouldn't do any of it."

"The good news is that so far the current economic downturn hasn't hit us that hard simply because people who can afford to do these sorts of projects still have what it takes to do so," he says, noting that three-quarters of his build orders come from repeat business. He cites longtime customer and slugger Jackson, who first connected with Brizio in 1979. "Reggie's got lots of cars, and he'll typically go sell five or six at auction but come back home with two or three that he'll then send here," he says.

But Brizio he has real concerns about the future of high-end hot rodding as Baby Boomers continue to age and today's thirty-and fortysomethings show little interest in restoring and preserving cars that made America's automotive name. Jackson is 65. Most of Brizio's customers are retirement age or older. "Today's 50-year-olds mostly can't afford these sorts of projects, while guys younger than that aren't interested in hot rods," he says. "Maybe it'll just mean we're working on fewer cars from the '30s and more from the '60s. But yeah, I'm concerned."

[GregWeld]

^ Ha! Lookin good Greg... so how long did you sign the storage lease for that car with Roy? 12 month term? :D


HE mentioned that but was apologizing to ME for HIM taking so long! I told him this was the best free storage EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE! :lol:

I was hoping Charley would have sold the "lightweight" at BJ Auction and he'd have room to store the little red roadster until I get down to get it -- but Roy is still working on her... so, so far, so good.

One of these days I need to get up to "Charley status" and get me some REAL buildings to put this stuff! :willy:

[Ketzer]

I told him this was the best free storage EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE! :lol:


If you ever need to store any of those "surplus" hotrods down in the southeast, I have a little extra space... :unibrow:

Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Dave called yesterday -- they're all done with the '32.... and ROY has driven it and given it his stamp of approval.

They had to replace the clutch completely....

They had to re "C" notch the frame over the rear end... and re-position the coil overs so that they "moved full travel and freely"....

"and a few other little things"....


So I'll pick it up on my way down to RTTC and hopefully the weather is good in LA and I can drive it around a bit.

[camcojb]

Dave called yesterday -- they're all done with the '32.... and ROY has driven it and given it his stamp of approval.

They had to replace the clutch completely....

They had to re "C" notch the frame over the rear end... and re-position the coil overs so that they "moved full travel and freely"....

"and a few other little things"....


So I'll pick it up on my way down to RTTC and hopefully the weather is good in LA and I can drive it around a bit.

that's awesome Greg. Be nice to be able to enjoy it finally.

[Lenie]

Good to hear, once you get that thing home you need to take me out for a ride in it!:unibrow: I'll buy breakfast!

[tones2SS]

Sounds awesome Greg. I hope the weather cooperates so you can blast around town in it. Good luck!:thumbsup:

[Sieg]

You're faxing the invoice to SAR for a rebate right? :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

You're faxing the invoice to SAR for a rebate right? :unibrow:



Yeah --- I tied it to a bottle of liquid - which adds weight and balance for better throwing.

[Blake Foster]

will be good to see it on the autoX shreading some tires up :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

will be good to see it on the autoX shreading some tires up :thumbsup:

Oh -- don't get your hopes up - it ain't no autox'r....

[youthpastor]

Nice end to a long battle. You know it is done right and is meant to drive. I'd love to see you put about 10K miles on it this summer- enjoy:thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

Glad to hear it Greg. If I were you and went through all this, I'd bring a big beach umbrella in case it rains to make sure I could drive it, and if I were closer I'd ride along to hold the umbrella for you!

[intocarss]

Sorry to hear all the issues you had with the build, It's a great looking roadster. Any pics of your 56 Nomad?

[waynieZ]

intocars click on the Lateral g banner at the top of the page it will take you to pictures of Gregs Nomad and a ton of others.

[intocarss]

intocars click on the Lateral g banner at the top of the page it will take you to pictures of Gregs Nomad and a ton of others.

Thank you

[camcojb]

Heard you say "broken 32" in the RTTC thread. Can you share what happened? I think it's about time you just get to enjoy this car instead of having to fix it. :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

He broke another half shaft. We discussed it on Saturday night and he's likely going to need to have a custom part made.

[camcojb]

He broke another half shaft. We discussed it on Saturday night and he's likely going to need to have a custom part made.

thanks Todd. Was he out drag racing again?

:lol:

[ccracin]

Damn that's some delicate jewelry! Sorry about the bad luck Greg. A nice little inline 4 will solve your problems. :lol:

[Vegas69]

thanks Todd. Was he out drag racing again?

:lol:

A few burnouts and it was done. :lol:

[96z28ss]

Its not the half shafts. Its the splined yoke that goes into the splined hub that make the wheel turn. 3 burnouts about 10 ft long and it was broke.
Second set that he broke. He will get beefier ones put in.

[Nessumsar]

Greg, you have a beautiful car here. :wow: There are so many cool little details to take in, I wish I had taken more time to look at it.

Hopefully the fix for the half-shafts come quickly and you're able to enjoy it this spring.

Hope to see you down here again sometime soon. :cheers:

[HRBS]

I think when you painted the heads you increased the horsepower beyond what the half shafts were designed to take. :rofl:

[70rs]

I think when you painted the heads you increased the horsepower beyond what the half shafts were designed to take. :rofl:

It's paint? All these years I thought chrome added horse power! Man, I gotta get busy painting and dump all this chrome stuff. I wanna go faster! ;)


Sorry to hear about the broken stuff buddy. I know you've got a strong motor, but the car is so light I didn't think that would have broken again.

[GregWeld]

Geez.... I stop to make a pot of coffee and have to spend half an hour responding to posts!!!


Bob is right - its NOT the half-shafts its a problem with the "stub axle" spline shaft. Jeff Kugel is having a custom set made with far heavier diameter and bigger splines. Will take about a month to get from the machine shop.


Okay back to trailer truckin'



Four Rodger dee!!!

[KPC67]

DAANG! Git er done buddy. I hope all goes well with the new stub axles.

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/built-ford-tough.jpg

Not yet, but coming to a rainy shack soon...

:D

[syborg tt]

At least you broke it having fun.

[waynieZ]

That sucks Greg. I hope they get them to you sooner than later.

[Blake Foster]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/built-ford-tough.jpg

Not yet, but coming to a rainy shack soon...

:D

hahahahahah
if it WAS a ford part it would still be working
:cheers:

[Matt@BOS]

Geez.... I stop to make a pot of coffee and have to spend half an hour responding to posts!!!



That's no excuse. I'm sure you have a laptop so you can check while making coffee. Were you trying to figure out how to make a facebook account when everyone started commenting? :unibrow:

Besides, if you had facebook, you could announce to the world that you were making coffee, and tell everyone not to bug you, so as not to keep you from having a hot cup of coffee since you had to respond to posts...

You know it is socially acceptable for adults with grown children to have a facebook these days. Myspace on the other hand... if you joined that you would just be a creeper.

Matt

[RECOVERY ROOM]

:lol: :lol: :lol: ^^^^

[tones2SS]

That's no excuse. I'm sure you have a laptop so you can check while making coffee. Were you trying to figure out how to make a facebook account when everyone started commenting? :unibrow:

Besides, if you had facebook, you could announce to the world that you were making coffee, and tell everyone not to bug you, so as not to keep you from having a hot cup of coffee since you had to respond to posts...

You know it is socially acceptable for adults with grown children to have a facebook these days. Myspace on the other hand... if you joined that you would just be a creeper.

Matt

:rofl: :rofl:

[GregWeld]

That's no excuse. I'm sure you have a laptop so you can check while making coffee. Were you trying to figure out how to make a facebook account when everyone started commenting? :unibrow:

Besides, if you had facebook, you could announce to the world that you were making coffee, and tell everyone not to bug you, so as not to keep you from having a hot cup of coffee since you had to respond to posts...

You know it is socially acceptable for adults with grown children to have a facebook these days. Myspace on the other hand... if you joined that you would just be a creeper.

Matt

TWEEEEEEEEEEEEET


Now hear this! I just got home one hour ago from RTTC. Laundry is going and I've showered.

[WSSix]

Thanks for sharing!


Sorry to hear about the 32 messing up yet again. Hopefully this will be the last time.

[GregWeld]

Thanks for sharing!


Sorry to hear about the 32 messing up yet again. Hopefully this will be the last time.

HAHAHAHAHA


That's the Weld version of Twittering - or Tweeting - or Being a pimply faced teen on Facey book...

Yeah --- Jeff assures me that they've discovered the fix for this "issue" of these little pieces breaking. Obviously a weak link! The dumb little hot rod can't weigh more than about 1800 or 2000 pounds -- so spinning the tires shouldn't be putting much pressure on "anything"!

I've owned many Corvettes and never ever broke a rear end! And this isn't the rear end - it's just the stub axle or whatever it's called. Not the half shafts. I'd had those made extra beefy already!


:cheers:

[Matt@BOS]

TWEEEEEEEEEEEEET


Now hear this! I just got home one hour ago from RTTC. Laundry is going and I've showered.

How am I supposed to know when you're doing your laundry if you post it up here? I can't be one of your followers unless you're on Twitter :lol:

Matt

[Vegas69]

Not impressed, those stub shafts wouldn't live in a Toyota Tercel and I mean that. I'd look really close at the rest of the parts and make sure it's not the only mis engineered part.

[GregWeld]

Not impressed, those stub shafts wouldn't live in a Toyota Tercel and I mean that. I'd look really close at the rest of the parts and make sure it's not the only mis engineered part.

Oh - rest assured "we" have had a little heart to heart conversation about this being the second time this has happened -- and that's AFTER they swore up and down that it "had never happened before"....

I'll reserve judgement until I have the new pieces in hand. We're not going to chrome 'em until after I TRY to break 'em.

The Kugel boys are pretty sharp guys... so I have to give them the benefit of the doubt. So far - TWO STRIKES. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

How am I supposed to know when you're doing your laundry if you post it up here? I can't be one of your followers unless you're on Twitter :lol:

Matt



So many thoughts of things to say.... but un-postable here.

@twit-tit-er


XOXO

[Vegas69]

Sharp as a BUTTER knife.:D

[Vince@Meanstreets]

So many thoughts of things to say.... but un-postable here.

@twit-tit-er


XOXO

LOL, not sure but I think you might be twotting. Just sayin.

[ccracin]

Sharp as a BUTTER knife.:D

So far I'm UNIMPRESSED as well. I find it very hard to believe you are the only one this has happened to. A bad part is a bad part. You can not be the only one to buy these, unless the rest are bolted to trailer only show queens! If not I find it even harder to believe they just happened to find the fix for you. Time will tell. I hope they get you fixed up!

Just thinking out loud here, do you think this is what Christine would have looked like without fenders? :_paranoid

[96z28ss]

People who buy the full chromed rear end mostly are the guys who show them.

[GregWeld]

So far I'm UNIMPRESSED as well. I find it very hard to believe you are the only one this has happened to. A bad part is a bad part. You can not be the only one to buy these, unless the rest are bolted to trailer only show queens! If not I find it even harder to believe they just happened to find the fix for you. Time will tell. I hope they get you fixed up!

Just thinking out loud here, do you think this is what Christine would have looked like without fenders? :_paranoid



Two things ----


#1 -- the AVERAGE '32 Ford owner is about 300 millennia age wise.... and probably hasn't nailed it in a very long time


#2 -- @ 15K for one of these rear ends.... as Bobby B said above... they're bolted to trailer queens.


I am not the only guy having this issue --- which is why Kugel is working to find a fix for it. They've just received from the machine shop the "first" version... to go in a customer car... mine will be #2 -- and Jeff told me that I should then TRY to break it. :thumbsup: :yes:

[GregWeld]

Jeff Kugel called today -- and shipped today -- all new hubs (carrier bearing hubs) and 40 spline "axles".... all custom made and of much better materials. We're not going to chrome them -- we're going to TRY to break them first... should they hold up... then we can chrome 'em and the bake 'em to take the brittleness the chroming process adds.

I'll have the roadster at the LA Roadsters Fathers Day show @ Pomona in June.. and then plan a "beach side road trip" north from there... So they better last this time!

You can't beat Kugel Komponents Kustomer service! Jeff has been all over this and has called ME frequently with status updates etc. That's as good as it gets in my book.

Roy Brizio is another one that gets 5 stars... I talked to him more in one day than Steve Frisbee during the entire build. :rolleyes:

[waynieZ]

I hope they work out for you this time Greg, lord knows you deserve a brake.

[ccracin]

Glad they are getting it worked out. They will be getting a call from another customer if they haven't already. I was at the Hot Rod and Restoration show a couple weeks ago with some friends. One of the guys that came along is building a Brookville 32 with an all aluminum 427 small block. Guess what rear? I told him of your issues and he turned white as a ghost. I told him not to worry that the issue was being worked on and that he may want to inquire to see if he may have an issue as well. So, we will see. It is not going to be a trailer queen and if I get my way, I am going to test that pretty chrome IRS myself! :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Thanks Wayne!

They're getting it handled...I'm not worried about finding a solution. Kugel is a good manufacturer and they're all over the problem. I really don't mind having "issues" -- I'm a big boy... It's "hot rodding". What I want is for the people behind a product (or doing the work) to wear big boy britches and just do what it takes to make stuff good. And Kugel has done that 110%. They've never once said -- well -- it's a show piece and you shouldn't be jumping on it.... That's NEVER been questioned - to the contrary... they've assured me that I SHOULD be able to get after it and never have a problem. That's good people in my book!

[Ron in SoCal]

Missed you at Good Guys Del Mar Greg. I would've liked to walk around w you and chat w a few vendors...:D

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[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



Like I told him to his face -- on more than one occasion -- AMATEUR HOUR!

[Lenie]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I've always believed that ya keep a Kugel and you toss a Frisbee.

[waynieZ]

I knew a girl that had a stout rear end but she did Kegals not Kugels :D

[96z28ss]

I knew a girl that had a stout rear end but she did Kegals not Kugels :D

thats funny

[tones2SS]

Good news. Good luck Greg.

[WSSix]

Kugel Komponents Kustomer

seriously? I hope that's a typo and they didn't really call it that, lol.


Glad they are standing behind their product and doing what it takes to make it perform for you Greg.

[GregWeld]

Kugel Komponents Kustomer

seriously? I hope that's a typo and they didn't really call it that, lol.


Glad they are standing behind their product and doing what it takes to make it perform for you Greg.

Well..... It is actually Kugel Komponents.... I added the
Kustomer. :D



Actually I don't care what they call it. It's top notch service!

[Vegas69]

You need it when you use a wet noodle for axles stubs.

[GregWeld]

Got the new assemblies today -- and the Roadster is back on the road. Will post pics after I upload 'em.

[Flash68]

Got the new assemblies today -- and the Roadster is back on the road. Will post pics after I upload 'em.

Video of 4k rpm clutch dump or ban. We need to know this one works.

:D

[Vegas69]

:yes:

[Sieg]

I say he lifts :yes:

[GregWeld]

So here's the carrier that holds this little POS "stub axle" --- which in turn holds the wheel on the car!


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2137.jpg


Pretty simple job -- take the tire/wheel off -- undo the half shaft u-joint - and unbolt the bearing assembly.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2141.jpg



The NEW bearing assembly with stub axle.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2138.jpg




Big difference in old (right side) and new (the other right side - HAHAHAHAHA)



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2143.jpg




The OLD - WEAK - Twisted and sheared versions.... Note how clean this POS is sheared off!



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2148.jpg



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When you shear it like this -- there is NOTHING holding the wheel to the car except the pressure of the tire holding it in place. Hit a big enough bump and you "could" separate the two pieces and end up doing some major "oh craps".


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[HWY Nova]

This rear end is based on technology that uses the shafts as load-bearing members. If one member breaks..... (gulp).

Newer CV-based rears have upper and lower control arms.

Thanks for sharing the photos!



--Eric

[carbuff]

The OLD - WEAK - Twisted and sheared versions.... Note how clean this POS is sheared off!



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2148.jpg


How in the world did that happen on such a light car? I can't believe you were that unlucky. They've been selling these types of setups for a long time, and as far as I know, there isn't anything about your car in particular that would put that much additional stress on these vs. any other roadster?

Let's hope for better luck with the new ones!

[GregWeld]

How in the world did that happen on such a light car? I can't believe you were that unlucky. They've been selling these types of setups for a long time, and as far as I know, there isn't anything about your car in particular that would put that much additional stress on these vs. any other roadster?

Let's hope for better luck with the new ones!




That's the million dollar question isn't it......


I've owned MANY mid year Corvettes and beat on 'em like I did my children... and never broke anything. Ever. Including big block cars. Go figure.


BTW - Kids will be on work release soon enough....

[Bryce]

nice upgrade

[Lenie]

tweaks and a few mods :rofl: I saw this car in person, absolutely beautiful. Tweaks and a few mods :rofl: :lateral:

[makoshark]

There's an old hot rodders adage, "if it doesn't run, chrome it.":D

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Almost looks like they were cut, ...By the way did the kids learn anything while they were in, trades ?....:lol:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Wow, that could have been ugly. Glad to see you made it without any damage or injury. :bow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Wow, that could have been ugly. Glad to see you made it without any damage or injury. :bow:

X2. :thumbsup:

[WSSix]

I'm betting it has to do with the fact that the shaft is also load bearing since there isn't an upper control arm. I don't know anyone that has broken a stub axle/spindle on a C2/3/4 vette and they all used the same style.

Hopefully the new beefy axle works.

[Musclerodz]

Are the new units heat treated? By the way the others twisted, it does not look like they were originally like mild steel.

[GregWeld]

Are the new units heat treated? By the way the others twisted, it does not look like they were originally like mild steel.


Mike -- Good question.... I'm not sure what they were made of - but they're JUNK...


Apparently so is the CASE....


Found this today - because after repairing the stub axles.... I took her for a drive... smelled that HOT REAR END GREASE SMELL --- A G A I N --- seems I've gotten real used to it in this little POS....

So after cleaning it all up -- off the exhaust again.... I happened to look up to notice grease all over the floor and turned around to find the Mariana Trench...



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2152.jpg


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[GregWeld]

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[Beegs]

Ohhhh Boyyyy.....Kugel is Kracked....:(

[Sieg]

Sorry to see that! Sadly it's appearing this unit was designed for show not go. :mad:

[intocarss]

THAT SUCKS Sorry to see it happen

[Phaeton]

Wow that is just crazy. Is there no end?

[pokey64]

Time for another "tweak". Paint it yellow cuz that thing's a lemon... :rolleyes:

[GregWeld]

I think I'll look into a little different rear end -- what'd ya think....

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Thats a new one, Ive had a lot of cars thru the year come thru the shop with those rears in them and have never heard about a crack like that before....9 inch on coil overs ???

[GregWeld]

Good question Tracy ---

I was just looking on Dutchman's website.... they have a Ford 9" center section IRS but I couldn't find it on the site. Only the center section.

I'll call Phil Gerber Monday AM and make an inquiry about theirs as well.

Obviously this is either a defective unit --- or the "champs" quick change just ain't the right parts for me.

I've email a photo to Jeff Kugel as well... will be interesting to see what he thinks.

[GregWeld]

Kugel has a Ford 9" IRS --- and that might be better suited to this application.

Would just have to pull the body off -- and mod the chassis for the minor differences.

When I was under the car and doing some cleaning etc -- I also noticed my fully polished Food Grade Stainless Steel exhaust has a few "issues" with cracking welds as well.... so guess that will also be on the complete TWEAK AND RE-DO list.

The exhaust needed some expansion built into it -- and some vibration reduction. Pretty little parts like that are fine for cotton packed show cars -- not so much for something that's actually going to get it's azz kicked on a regular basis.

Maybe I should just get out of the hobby and go to Europe for a few months... come home with a nice Ferrari 458 Spider...

What with all the flaming crooks -- and shoddy azz builders these days...

[fleetus macmullitz]

Maybe I should just get out of the hobby and go to Europe for a few months... come home with a nice Ferrari 458 Spider...



Probably save some $$$ plus make your son extremely happy in the process.

:lol:

[Ron in SoCal]

Man Greg you have been through the ringer on that rear end. Keep at it Sir...sooner or later you'll run out of parts to break!

I believe RS uses the Dutchman center section, so structural mounting tips from them would be good.

[Musclerodz]

WTF? IS your case chromed or polished? If chromed (which kinda looks it from the spider cracks I see next to the crack), severely lowered the tensile strength of the case through hydrogen embrittlement. If polished, i really have no clue.....

[Vegas69]

I'd shove that thing so far up Kugel's ass....... JUNK You haven't driven that car enough to get it washed let alone crack a case or break some axles. The design is dangerous without an upper control arm anyway. Put a straight axle in it and move on with your life.

[WSSix]

I'd say definitely get something different under there. It's just not built for your intended use obviously and it's helping to ruin the experience with that car.

[waynieZ]

Sorry to hear this Greg, I was hoping they had it right his time. They worked with you and now I hope they own up to it and give you the 9" (if thats what you want) or your money to make it right. What ever I hope this ends soon .

[RECOVERY ROOM]

I just rode in a 458 Ferrari the other day...IT IS A BAD ASS CAR !!!

[Lenie]

Maybe I should just get out of the hobby and go to Europe for a few months... come home with a nice Ferrari 458 Spider...

What with all the flaming crooks -- and shoddy azz builders these days...[/QUOTE]

Man Greg, if you drank we could grab a case, sit around and write a soap opera. Yours goes way beyond, just absolute bullshiiiiit. You expect a good proven product when you pay good money but lately it amazes me the number of defected products and deception that is bleeding all over these threads. It's makes it really tough when the members on this forum are such good people and the fact I love cars. MUST GO ON....I'll stop by and shoot the bull soon.

[GregWeld]

WTF? IS your case chromed or polished? If chromed (which kinda looks it from the spider cracks I see next to the crack), severely lowered the tensile strength of the case through hydrogen embrittlement. If polished, i really have no clue.....



Mike -- I think the section that cracked is polished aluminum.


BTW -- Hydrogen embrittlement really isn't a problem with chrome plating anymore. It used to be when parts were in the tank for 20 minutes or so - but modern plating techniques have the parts in the tank for a minute or so...

Even then -- baking the parts at 350* will cure that.

Doubtful these parts were treated to any baking after the chrome process... because this is "Show" stuff and none of those pussies ever get on their cars.

Kugel is a good supplier -- and I have every confidence we'll get something worked out. This isn't like dealing with Driverz...

What I'm hacked off about is the car is now a year old - and as Todd pointed out - it's barely been driven.... it's cruising season shortly... and to change out the whole rear end will require body removal - bracket changes - paint work etc.

[96z28ss]

Well see what kugel says. I think the better rear end is Dutchmen 9" IRS. Plus they're a local shop.

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://www.dutchmanaxles.com/products/irs-housing-axle-package-cv-style#

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/irs-cv-housing-back.jpg

IRS Housing & Alloy axle package, CV style

Product Description

Building your own Yoke or CV style independent rear end? We now sell individual “IRS” components for those that want to build their own “hybrid” independent rear end using a combination of OEM & Dutchman components. Why not build it as tough as you can using the legendary, durable, and readily available 9" Ford 3rd member gear set and Dutchman's 31 or 35 spline custom alloy stub shafts. Using our new "IRS" CV center, you can eliminate the C5 & C6 Corvette transaxle center section and build a very trick C5-6 "Hybrid" rear end. Whether you are building a Hi-Tech Street Rod, muscle car, road race car, or off road vehicle, construct your next vehicle's rear end using Dutchman custom IRS rear end components.

Features:
We engineered the housing with extra thick cross sections for added strength and poured it out of the superior 206-T7 aluminum alloy, which is 30% stronger than the typical 356-T6 and polishes better too! The stub shafts are machined for the extra large 1350 series U-Joint (yoke-U-Joint style) or heavy duty 934 Porsche CV joint (CV style) and are CNC machined using 4340 Chromoly material. For added strength and durability, the stub axles are supported using a Timken Set 10 taper roller bearing (instead of the typical single row ball bearing our competitors use).

Available options:
-31 or 35 spline stub axles.
-Polished housing.
-934 CV joint, boot, & bolt kits.
-930 smaller CV joints (If space is a problem).
-3rd member gear sets. Strength and ratio-your choice.


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/irs-yoke-housing-side.jpg


9 inch Ford IRS Housing & Yoke style stub axles, side view

[kwhizz]

The Car from Hell!!!!.........................

[HRBS]

I just shed a tear for you Greg.

[coolwelder62]

I think you could repair that cracked rear housing W/JB weld.:willy: :willy:

[GregWeld]

I think you could repair that cracked rear housing W/JB weld.:willy: :willy:



That's too slow to set.... Chinese sheet metal works faster, comes on a roll in silver... and is rated to 200 mph.

[GregWeld]

The Car from Hell!!!!.........................



So true Ken....


It is by far the simplest car I own... but also the most expensive... is the lightest and least powerful... and is also the biggest POS.

It's like one of those 4th grade "new math" problems -- I continue to have to solve for "X"

[ironworks]

So true Ken....


It is by far the simplest car I own... but also the most expensive... is the lightest and least powerful... and is also the biggest POS.

It's like one of those 4th grade "new math" problems -- I continue to have to solve for "X"

I wonder which quick change manufacturer, That is a pretty odd place to crack. I wonder if it might be mounted in correctly. Those quickchanges typically handle quite a bit of power with ease.

[GregWeld]

The "Winters Championship" description....

The Champ Adapter is the same housing but for straight axles - the Independent is shipped with 1350 yokes -- ya don't need 1350 yokes on a whimpy POS... if ya get what I'm saying'






Champ Adapter
Ideal for big horsepower cars, this combination adapts original Early Ford® side bells and tubes to our full size Championship Quick Change. Assembly includes a Winters Track differential designed specifically for this application, heat treated lower shaft and a 10 spline straight cut gear set of your choice. "Hot Rod Heaven".


Championship Independent Quick Change
Winters Independent Quick Change . What happens when you cross an independent rear with a quick change? Winters Independent Quick Change, the absolute ultimate rear money can buy. Everything about it is race inspired. All upgrades are standard. 4.12 ring & pinion, heat treated lower shaft, Winters Track assembly, caliper mount side bells, roller support bearing upgrade, pinion lock nut assembly and 1350 series flange yokes. One set of 10 spline straight cut quick change gears included.

[clill]

Just give it to me and I'll park it next to my 32 that just sits. They will be happy together.

[GregWeld]

Just give it to me and I'll park it next to my 32 that just sits. They will be happy together.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/IMG_0363.jpg

[Sieg]

I wonder which quick change manufacturer, That is a pretty odd place to crack. I wonder if it might be mounted in correctly. Those quickchanges typically handle quite a bit of power with ease.
Considering the original builder, what's the chance the frame isn't square or properly reinforced and the housing is being stressed?

[GregWeld]

Considering the original builder, what's the chance the frame isn't square or properly reinforced and the housing is being stressed?



The rear end was removed and re-installed by Brizio and I'm sure if they saw something wrong - they would have either fixedededed it or talked to me about it. But I will be interested in what Jeff K has to say - and will send photos etc and ask him about the installation!

[GregWeld]

Kugel Komponents Kustomer Service at it's finest!!!


I had sent Jeff Kugel a picture of the Mariana's Trench in the case on Sunday -- he calls first thing this morning. He's already spoken with Winters about my issues -- and all I need to do is to drop the ENTIRE reared out of the roadster - send it to Kugel - and they will rebuild and inspect every square inch of it - inside and out.... and ship it back to me. Not once mentioning "abuse" or that I broke it - or that it shouldn't have happened.... just a simple "How do you want to handle it? Want to bring the car to us to have us do the work or..."

On several occasions I've said I will be more than happy to PAY whatever it takes to get this all squared away... and not once has he said - "well... it's going to cost X". Not once. I will -- somehow -- take care of him/them.

THAT IS HOW A COMPANY BUILDS AND MAINTAINS A GREAT REPUTATION.



Winters makes a heavier version than the Champs - but they're not happy with it all polished out.... the casting is porous.... so they're working to make it better but this will take awhile -- so that's not an option.

[GoolsbyCustoms]

Thats good news , everyone at Kugel have always been top notch , great company to do business with, glad to hear they are making at painless as possible for you Greg

[96z28ss]

Just give it to me and I'll park it next to my 32 that just sits. They will be happy together.

Wow now that is a beefy rear. Thats a Mark Williams rear correct.
Way overkill for that roadster.

[GregWeld]

Wow now that is a beefy rear. Thats a Mark Williams rear correct.
Way overkill for that roadster.

Yeah but it ain't broken either! And I've seen that bad azz '32 fryin' tires for as long as a guy wants to keep his foot into it. That is a NICE roadster....

Now -- that little blue car.... Um..... not so much.


:rofl: :rofl:

[GregWeld]

Thats good news , everyone at Kugel have always been top notch , great company to do business with, glad to hear they are making at painless as possible for you Greg

I couldn't agree more.... Just top top notch in my book.


When I was in business -- things go sideways.... it's always HOW you handle it, not what actually happened... that is what is remembered. I will remember this as "Kugel is someone to buy from".

[Sieg]

Good to hear Kugel's response. :thumbsup:

Sometimes projects need to be treated like infants, they don't always come out of the womb perfect. But with time, patience, and understanding they can be well worth the effort all said and done. The upside to vehicle projects is there's a usually a lot more foreplay involved.

[makoshark]

'Foreplay'?? I'm still buying dinner!:mad:

[GregWeld]

Good to hear Kugel's response. :thumbsup:

Sometimes projects need to be treated like infants, they don't always come out of the womb perfect. But with time, patience, and understanding they can be well worth the effort all said and done. The upside to vehicle projects is there's a usually a lot more foreplay involved.



After 40 some years of projects... I think I have a pretty good understanding of what it takes. It really isn't my first goat rodeo. I could make a list - but it would be over the limits of a post....

:unibrow:

[Sieg]

After 40 some years of projects... I think I have a pretty good understanding of what it takes. It really isn't my first goat rodeo. I could make a list - but it would be over the limits of a post....

:unibrow:Understood, but if you've had one worse than this one I commend you for your perseverance. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Understood, but if you've had one worse than this one I commend you for your perseverance. :unibrow:

Oh yeah.... I can walk you back a few millennia when I was an early adopter of Accel DFI fuel injection... back when NOBODY knew anything including the morons that built the stuff....

And don't even get me going on the big block '67 Vette I had Walt Austin and his minions do a swap to a 502 with fuel injection....(I was busy with a whole house remodel and didn't want to tackle the job at that time) those idiots didn't even realize that EFI needed an electric fuel pump... and were surprised that a 502 block didn't have a place for a mechanical pump! They sued me when I refused to pay PART of the bill.... you know - for the part they screwed up... I counter sued and won... that took a year and cost far more than the "job" -- but I was determined not to pay idiots for doing idiot work. That car was tied up in court for over a year. I was okay with that.

:rofl: :faint: :wow:

[FETorino]

After 40 some years of projects... I think I have a pretty good understanding of what it takes. It really isn't my first goat rodeo. I could make a list - but it would be over the limits of a post....

:unibrow:

I remember back when you were building that bubbletop slammed on Intros.........

[GregWeld]

I remember back when you were building that bubbletop slammed on Intros.........



The South of the Border Bubbler?


:thumbsup:

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Just give it to me and I'll park it next to my 32 that just sits. They will be happy together.

I'll show it for you this summer..I'm a sucker for a 32 :D

[DOOM]

Oh yeah.... I can walk you back a few millennia when I was an early adopter of Accel DFI fuel injection... back when NOBODY knew anything including the morons that built the stuff....

And don't even get me going on the big block '67 Vette I had Walt Austin and his minions do a swap to a 502 with fuel injection....(I was busy with a whole house remodel and didn't want to tackle the job at that time) those idiots didn't even realize that EFI needed an electric fuel pump... and were surprised that a 502 block didn't have a place for a mechanical pump! They sued me when I refused to pay PART of the bill.... you know - for the part they screwed up... I counter sued and won... that took a year and cost far more than the "job" -- but I was determined not to pay idiots for doing idiot work. That car was tied up in court for over a year. I was okay with that.

:rofl: :faint: :wow:

Greg thats not the drag racing Walt Austin is it ?

[GregWeld]

Greg thats not the drag racing Walt Austin is it ?

That would be one and the same.....

[syborg tt]

I wonder which quick change manufacturer, That is a pretty odd place to crack. I wonder if it might be mounted in correctly. Those quickchanges typically handle quite a bit of power with ease.

I agree with Rodger here. What is preventing the chassis on this car from Twisting ?? Nothing that I can see.

If the Chassis twists then the Center Section become the "Chassis-Brace" with the way that it is mounted. If you have a "Live Axle" under the car it would allow some twist vs. the rigid set up you have.

I think you need to take it to an actually Race Car Chassis Shop and have them look at the frame and see if they can find some weak links in it. You may have to put a hidden cage in this little beast to keep it from twisting.

I showed this to my chassis guy and he thought the same thing I did.

[GregWeld]

Good info!


The plan is to get this unit replaced and then this winter do a few tweaks and redo's. I really like the unit that is under "Stacked" -- Charley's sweet little '32. Or a proper Ford 9" but IRS version.

[96z28ss]

It may be from the chassis twisting that caused that center section to break. The bracing and brackets come from kugel with the rear end to weld to the chassis. Kugel should of figured out if its strong enough. They have sold a few of those rears, however no one has probably driven it like Greg. The center section would have to be pretty thin wall material if the grinding, sanding, and polishing made it weaker.

[jimbo]

Is there that much chassis flex in a short wheelbase, lightweight car with street tires?

Not a chassis or suspension guy. Just trying to learn.

[DOOM]

Greg just chrome out a 9 inch problem solved!:D

[syborg tt]

Is there that much chassis flex in a short wheelbase, lightweight car with street tires?

Not a chassis or suspension guy. Just trying to learn.

Yep, Chances are the wall thickness of the chassis is pretty thin. Most guys just cruise these cars and then there are guys like Greg well he abuses his cars like they should be.

[ironworks]

Just my 2 cents when everyone is giving you spare change.

Upon further consideration, I don't think you have driven the car enough for it to be a chassis flex issue. But with you trying to see what the axle would stand a 2nd time, you might have snapped the housing under the load of that might Small Block Chevy you have in there. The rear axle is really just hanging there and the CV or U-joints will handle any misalignment pretty easy. My guess is that winters might have the same factory in China make their axles and cast their center sections. Currie makes a nice Independent suspension center section.

Or that tame looking small block with painted cylinder heads is really a Nascar Cup engine. And those super all weather tires might be really sticky.

[syborg tt]

Just a Question - who made the chassis

Is it one of them off the shelf chassis ??

[GregWeld]

Just my 2 cents when everyone is giving you spare change.

Upon further consideration, I don't think you have driven the car enough for it to be a chassis flex issue. But with you trying to see what the axle would stand a 2nd time, you might have snapped the housing under the load of that might Small Block Chevy you have in there. The rear axle is really just hanging there and the CV or U-joints will handle any misalignment pretty easy. My guess is that winters might have the same factory in China make their axles and cast their center sections. Currie makes a nice Independent suspension center section.

Or that tame looking small block with painted cylinder heads is really a Nascar Cup engine. And those super all weather tires might be really sticky.




I think you've made a very good point.... because I think we can all agree that it's not a matter of how much power the motor makes ---- it's much more a matter of a complete and utter lack of traction in this lightweight little roadster. It should be able to smoke the tires as long as a guy can stick his foot into it.... and not twist or torque ANYTHING.

Having said that -- the LEVERAGE provided by a very tall tire (31") is a lot... but really? They're friggin' RUN FLATS -- they're not performance anything...

Let's not forget that the case is "wubba" mounted (if you check the photos) so should never see enough twisting action to crack the case like that... and I think if I was twisting it up like a pretzel -- you'd see that much flex showing up in the bodywork.

I think were I'm at is that it's just a pretty show piece and not the kind of rear end that belongs in any car that I own...

[GregWeld]

Just a Question - who made the chassis

Is it one of them off the shelf chassis ??


Who knows.... and it isn't the same chassis I took in to SAR either! I had them cut it all apart and beef up all the suspension points...


The raw steel crossmember shown here is supplied with the rear end.....




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5469.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5468.jpg




I think it's probably standard .120 wall material....




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5496.jpg

[ironworks]

Who knows.... and it isn't the same chassis I took in to SAR either! I had them cut it all apart and beef up all the suspension points...


The raw steel crossmember shown here is supplied with the rear end.....




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5469.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/CIMG5468.jpg




I think it's probably standard .120 wall material....






Those cute chrome links hanging down from the front of the diff should prevent any issues your having. I bet it's just the quality of the center section material.

[GregWeld]

Yeah --- and note the TOE LINKS!




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/DSC00521.jpg

[Sieg]

Greg - The crack is parallel to the hanger mounts, which is a through bolt?

[syborg tt]

You can't say Toe Links - make me think of Camel Toe



Yeah --- and note the TOE LINKS!

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/DSC00521.jpg

[Musclerodz]

Those cute chrome links hanging down from the front of the diff should prevent any issues your having. I bet it's just the quality of the center section material.

Question. What besides the upper attach points is carrying lateral loading? If just those four points, you have nothing taking lateral or even diaginal loads. All those lower links is doing is supporting linear loads from acceleration or braking.

[bdahlg68]

Yeah --- and note the TOE LINKS!


:pushbutto

[syborg tt]

Question. What besides the upper attach points is carrying lateral loading? If just those four points, you have nothing taking lateral or even diaginal loads. All those lower links is doing is supporting linear loads from acceleration or braking.

Nut tin

[GregWeld]

Well -- The rear end is on it's way back to Kugel for a full "once over"....





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2220.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

Hey Greg...I was visiting Speedway last week. Look what was sitting in the lobby? If/when you're done w this one I bet they can build you a bullet proof rear end! :thumbsup:

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/2012-04-13_14-25-59_341.jpg

http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac52/flash911/2012-04-13_14-25-49_825.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

Well -- The rear end is on it's way back to Kugel for a full "once over"....





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/32%20Ford%20Stub%20axle/IMG_2220.jpg

Even apart it looks great. :thumbsup:



So ya got that goin for ya...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Bill_Murray-10_906med.jpg

[GregWeld]

Thanks Skip!

I really do love the little useless POS....


But this rear end has been a nightmare from the get go. First it was SAR overfilling it and taping it for a vent in the wrong place... then Tim was finally able to make the vent work (went to 1/2" tubing) so I didn't have gear lube puking out of it... Then the first set of stub axles... then the second set and now the cracked housing.

Now yesterday when I was under there I noticed that almost every weld seam in the polished SS exhaust has a hairline fracture. So that will have to be a complete re-do now as well.

When I'm at Thunderhill at the end of the month - I'll swing by Brizios and get a plan worked up = and drop it off in October. It will get a completely different rear end and an exhaust system with some V bands - and some flexibility built into it.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Thanks Skip!

I really do love the little useless POS....



:lol:


She does have a nice lookin' tush. :yes:

The rest...I'm sorry to hear that. :(

Brief as it was, I'm happy for you that at least you got to drive it a little this year.

[John510]

Wow the rear assembly is awesome even if it is a nightmare.

Now I want a 32 ford...

[GregWeld]

Wow the rear assembly is awesome even if it is a nightmare.

Now I want a 32 ford...



Funny John! If you're like me.... you've never seen a car you didn't want!


:cheers:

The rear is jewelry -- and everyone swear up and down this has never happened before -- and that it's a race rear end and blah blah blah -- but for me - it's been a headache since day one.

[FETorino]

Funny John! If you're like me.... you've never seen a car you didn't want!




I hear that. I need to look the other way. I'm like Imelda Marcos at the Nordstrom shoe rack.

But what about a Pacer? Can anybody love one of those?

[GregWeld]

I hear that. I need to look the other way. I'm like Imelda Marcos at the Nordstrom shoe rack.

But what about a Pacer? Can anybody love one of those?



Yep! Jimi Day!


:woot:

[RECOVERY ROOM]

You cant win, That poor car spends more time on jack stands...LOL

[fleetus macmullitz]

You cant win, That poor car spends more time on jack stands...LOL

An easy target now safely tucked away though ...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/bird_poop.jpg

[GregWeld]

You cant win, That poor car spends more time on jack stands...LOL

You're telling me! I've never driven a car so little in such a long period of time!

LOL


But like Skippy said -- it's not getting pooped on. It's just a poopie hot rod!

[GregWeld]

Rear end went to Kugel -- and was completely gone thru - new center section installed and return -- all in ONE WEEK!

It's back in the car as of this afternoon.... I just have the parking brake left to install and she'll be on the road again.

Still amazed at the service Kugel has done on this piece. In all my years of hot rodding - NOBODY has been more proactive or given me better service. Nobody.

:hail: :hail: Kugel

[fleetus macmullitz]

Rear end went to Kugel -- and was completely gone thru - new center section installed and return -- all in ONE WEEK!

It's back in the car as of this afternoon.... I just have the parking brake left to install and she'll be on the road again.

Still amazed at the service Kugel has done on this piece. In all my years of hot rodding - NOBODY has been more proactive or given me better service. Nobody.

:hail: :hail: Kugel

So no problem them parkin' their rear end in your toter, huh?

[GregWeld]

So no problem them parkin' their rear end in your toter, huh?

Jeff and I have already discussed hangin' out at the L.A. Roadsters Fathers Day show in June. I'll have the little red hen down there for that. I promised him I would not jump on it til then!

LOL



PS -- Was informed the toter is 22 weeks (if I'm lucky.....)

[waynieZ]

Good news Greg! I'll mention you and the Little Red Hen in my prayers tonight. All good wishes going your way... It doesn't seem as bad when a company works with you on a problem instead of being part of the problem.

[Sieg]

Great news Greg! :thumbsup:

Kudos to Kugel's for handling the issues properly. :hail:

[GregWeld]

Ya know --- as much as I hate to have "issues" with anything --- I really can't say enough about how this has been handled. Just 200% first class. Kugel has called ME -- I've never had to call them... Other than shipping the rear end down to them (and back) they've covered everything. I have offered on multiple times to share or contribute - or to cover in full any costs for upgrades or whatever... and they've steadfastly refused. I finally told Jeff to STOP apologizing! I'm a big boy... and totally get that stuff breaks... I was smokin' the tires etc... NOT ONCE have they said.... well yeah ya probably shouldn't be doing that.... In fact it's been 100% the opposite! He's said "you should be able to do that!"

Anyway -- 'nuff said. I'll be happy to drive it again. The weather is supposed to be nice all week here (rare!) so all is good.

[camcojb]

Ya know --- as much as I hate to have "issues" with anything --- I really can't say enough about how this has been handled. Just 200% first class. Kugel has called ME -- I've never had to call them... Other than shipping the rear end down to them (and back) they've covered everything. I have offered on multiple times to share or contribute - or to cover in full any costs for upgrades or whatever... and they've steadfastly refused. I finally told Jeff to STOP apologizing! I'm a big boy... and totally get that stuff breaks... I was smokin' the tires etc... NOT ONCE have they said.... well yeah ya probably shouldn't be doing that.... In fact it's been 100% the opposite! He's said "you should be able to do that!"

Anyway -- 'nuff said. I'll be happy to drive it again. The weather is supposed to be nice all week here (rare!) so all is good.

you need to do a vendor feedback thread for them, so others who may not read this thread will find it. :yes:

[Vegas69]

I wouldn't be happy until I found out the problem is fixed. But that's me. :D

[GregWeld]

I've never mentioned being happy with the product! Just the service...

[Track Junky]

Wow Greg, I flipped through this thread really quick knowing I need to hit the sack soon and it appears that you've had some major drama with this build. I wont comment much more as I intend to spend more time reading later but it sounds like things are getting better?

[Flash68]

Wow Greg, I flipped through this thread really quick knowing I need to hit the sack soon and it appears that you've had some major drama with this build. I wont comment much more as I intend to spend more time reading later but it sounds like things are getting better?

Hey you must be new here. Welcome to Lateral G. You should post an introduction in the New Member section. :lol:

[Beegs]

Hey you must be new here. Welcome to Lateral G. You should post an introduction in the New Member section. :lol:

lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl:

[GregWeld]

Wow Greg, I flipped through this thread really quick knowing I need to hit the sack soon and it appears that you've had some major drama with this build. I wont comment much more as I intend to spend more time reading later but it sounds like things are getting better?



A little drama.... Far more than there should have been because at this level of car build there shouldn't have been ANY. However - almost exactly a year after "taking delivery" it's almost drivable. :lol:

[GregWeld]

So after Brizio got the little POS to drive nicely -- and Kugel got the Champ Quick change to stop breaking the stub axles... I'm happily cruising the Monterey Peninsula after taking her to the L A Roadsters roadster show in Pomona this last weekend.




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/06c5f402.jpg




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/5e3ff05c.jpg

[bulldog19]

Great Picture Greg!

[jy211]

Love the frameless windshield. Any idea who makes it? Need one for a 29' :thumbsup:

[Swain]

Greg,

Those Muroc 3's would look killer on that car. I should of brought that one over and sat it next to your car.

[Lenie]

First time I saw your car I was hooked, been keeping my eye out for a fixer ever since. I tell my wife, hey blame Greg! Beautiful car:thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Nice shots..... it's Big n Little! :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/5e3ff05c.jpg

Raw roddin'. :cool:

[intocarss]

Great pic and great looking cars . Is the other one your wifes?

[Musclerodz]

So after Brizio got the little POS to drive nicely -- and Kugel got the Champ Quick change to stop breaking the stub axles... I'm happily cruising the Monterey Peninsula after taking her to the L A Roadsters roadster show in Pomona this last weekend.




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Nice pic! Is the other deuce sectioned?

[tones2SS]

Awesome.
Looks like you're finally enjoying your car Greg. Good to see!:thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

Sounds like a great time Greg. Who's "mini-me"?

[GregWeld]

Sorry for the delayed response... 4 days after leaving Pomona -- We've finally reached all the way to Willows, CA! That's about 495 miles north... on my journey home. :D

We left Pomona - and made it all the way to San Luis Obispo the first day (Monday). Backed the cars out - went to see Kyle and Paul Newman at Pauls house/shop... then up to Hearst Castle... and down California Hiway 1.

The next day we moved 2 hours north to Big Sur... backed 'em out and drove to Monterey and Carmel... and back to Big Sur...

The next day we got all the way to Yountville (Napa Valley)... After a too long shop tour and BS session with Roy Brizio... and then got into serious San Francisco afternoon traffic....

Today we made it to Willows, CA around noon - then backed 'em out and drove to Chico - then down to Oroville and then up to Oroville Dam - then out to Thunderhill.



Mike --- I don't think that Stan and Sues car is sectioned. It's the same body I have (Westcott) -- It's a 1994 Great 8 car... all torsion bar suspension and the Northstar engine. Killer car but doesn't ride real well. I want to boogie at 65 or 70 and they want to go 50 and bounce all over. Plus it has 4:86's and they're turning 3600 rpms when I'm turning 2000. After this trip they will make some effort to make it a "driver". They have another car and this is really the first time they spent serious seat time in this one.

[Musclerodz]

Both are beautiful rides, no doubt about that.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Those are some fantastic stops Greggers... was that your first time to Hearst? Did you actually go up and see it? I just went there last year with my fam... crazy cool place.

[GregWeld]

Those are some fantastic stops Greggers... was that your first time to Hearst? Did you actually go up and see it? I just went there last year with my fam... crazy cool place.


Yes we took the main floor tour. It is an amazing place... personally I liked the outside better... the inside is dark and gloomy. What really struck me though - was - since I've just returned from Italy where there are truly amazing 1000 year old structures -- is how fast the exterior of this place is deteriorating! Since much of it is poured concrete or limestone... the building is already losing it's DETAILS... unlike the buildings of early Europe that were carved from marble and granite and have amazing details to this day.

[GregWeld]

We parked in Carmel - and strolled around... when we came back - not only were we having a "car show" with onlookers -- but some guy was painting my car! How fun is that?!?!



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[Vegas69]

Those are some fantastic stops Greggers... was that your first time to Hearst? Did you actually go up and see it? I just went there last year with my fam... crazy cool place.

Greggers?

[GregWeld]

We had to stop by Paul Newman's shop where he and Kyle make the chassis! This is just a bit inland from Big Sur and on our way to the Hearst Castle... and thankfully Kyle had advised us to visit them EARLY in the day and it gets quite a bit hotter in the afternoon! You could feel a 25* temp drop when we crested some hill and hit the coastal air! Man did that feel good!



My Nomad -- and my '32 -- and my friends Stan and Sue's '32



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[toddshotrods]

That rear end is bad-azz, in appearance if nothing else...:yes:

Car looks great, and your "journeys" are awesome. They should follow you around with a camera - it would be better than most of the crap we watch for car shows. The Greg Weld Show! :lol:

Edit - Is that 32 coming to Columbus?!

[Flash68]

Greggers?

I can't take credit for that name.

You don't watch movies much do ya.

[Spiffav8]

Nice to see you out having such a great time. Really hope I'll get to see that Nomad one of these days. Love those cars.

:captain:

[GregWeld]

Nice to see you out having such a great time. Really hope I'll get to see that Nomad one of these days. Love those cars.

:captain:


Yeah -- it sucks to be me!

:rofl: :rofl:


The beater mobile.... I've had this old clap trap 13 or so years -- a couple different chassis -- 4 or 5 different motors -- and she still just hums along. Lots of miles on this beast that's for sure... lots of HARD miles!


Interior is OLD Gabe Lopez -- but I built the console and added it later....


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408 Dart Little M based stroker



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At Pebble Beach



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[GregWeld]

I rented a house at Post Ranch Inn - Big Sur... because there were 5 of us traveling together (Gwen stayed home) and it was easier than getting 3 rooms on the coast like this. Plus they had special trailer parking for us. It's tough to get 3 rigs somewhere all together!

This was the 'morning scene' -- as we were high on a cliff so we were above the fog! Note the deer in the lower left....

In an hour when the sun came up - that fog lifted and we were in a total white out for a couple hours!



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[GregWeld]

"THE RIGS" ---- at the Madonna Inn -- San Luis Obispo...

If you want to see a friggin freak show --- check out that place on the internet!


We stayed there -- super clean and nice -- but FREAKY! The restaurant was OMG UGLY... but the food was fantastic!! Go figure!




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[GregWeld]

I snapped this at the Hearst Castle.... Does anyone else but me think this is kinky? Why is she naked? What's the corn cob for? What is the goat for? WTF who would put this in their front yard?!?!?! :rofl:




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[intocarss]

:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :woot:

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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

I love this car!
Thats a beautiful view.

[Flash68]

I snapped this at the Hearst Castle.... Does anyone else but me think this is kinky? Why is she naked? What's the corn cob for? What is the goat for? WTF who would put this in their front yard?!?!?! :rofl:




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Yes that is extremely disturbing and I don't recall seeing that in the flesh thankfully!

[Spiffav8]

Greg...that is a stunning car. The Nomad holds a special place in my heart and is the car that started it all for me. My Aunt had two of them and she is the one who got me really into cars.

Thank You for posting the pictures. :D

Yeah -- it sucks to be me!

:rofl: :rofl:


The beater mobile.... I've had this old clap trap 13 or so years -- a couple different chassis -- 4 or 5 different motors -- and she still just hums along. Lots of miles on this beast that's for sure... lots of HARD miles!


Interior is OLD Gabe Lopez -- but I built the console and added it later....


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408 Dart Little M based stroker



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At Pebble Beach



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[Spiffav8]

I snapped this at the Hearst Castle.... Does anyone else but me think this is kinky? Why is she naked? What's the corn cob for? What is the goat for? WTF who would put this in their front yard?!?!?! :rofl:




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:rofl: OMG that's funny...and true!

[GregWeld]

Greg...that is a stunning car. The Nomad holds a special place in my heart and is the car that started it all for me. My Aunt had two of them and she is the one who got me really into cars.

Thank You for posting the pictures. :D



I had one in high school... a '55. 265 with a 3 speed on the column... clear plastic seat covers. That car was MINT and low milage and I think I paid $1200 for it.

[FETorino]

I snapped this at the Hearst Castle.... Does anyone else but me think this is kinky?

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Why is she naked? :
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Nothing wrong with that.:D

What's the corn cob for?



Hmm some things seem obvious. :_paranoid

What is the goat for?


WTF you're right WTF:rofl:

WTF who would put this in their front yard?!?!?! :rofl:


Same guy who decorated the interior of that house. Same guy who dismantled Roman temples to decorate his pool. Sometime you can just have too much $$ for your own good.:rofl:

The guest house is really cool. :D Other than it the rest of the house is like being in the haunted mansion. On a clear day the view is pretty epic.

[David Pozzi]

I heard the marble sculptures are Greek and most are VERY old. All the artwork was collected during W.R. Hearst's travels in Europe. When he died there was a large warehouse in New York full of Furniture & art.

[GregWeld]

David,


I should have called you and Mary but we were running out of daylight/time. As you know - it took way longer than planned/allowed for to hammer Highway 1 with "the rigs"... and we spent longer at Paul and Kyle's than we should have. I wanted to go to the Firestone for some BBQ and we didn't even make that!

[clill]

I want to see more castle pics. I remember that place as being pretty cool. Especially the indoor pool.

[GregWeld]

I want to see more castle pics. I remember that place as being pretty cool. Especially the indoor pool.



Personally I liked the big outdoor pool!




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The indoor version was just huge!




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The bottom shot thru the water.... I'm surprised it turned out!




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I liked the grounds around the main house better than the main house --- I like gardening so this stuff interests me.



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[GregWeld]

The best part though -- was driving these on that road behind us in this pic!





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[89 RS]

Sounds like a great road trip Greg. :thumbsup:
That mansion, castle or whatever you want to call it, is unreal! I have relatives in San Jose, when I get out there next I want to see that thing in person.

[Garage Dog 65]

We had to stop by Paul Newman's shop where he and Kyle make the chassis!

And no pics of the shop and some wicked tube chassis work of art ????

You show me naked sculpture and farm animals - and no shop pics ????

That guys does REAL artwork and all we get is his head peeking out over the top of the Nomad....

Now I'm really disturbed Greg !


Love the pics of the drive and the Hurst castle. You'd have to sell a lot of shifters to pay for those pools...


:lol:


Jim

[GregWeld]

And no pics of the shop and some wicked tube chassis work of art ????

You show me naked sculpture and farm animals - and no shop pics ????

That guys does REAL artwork and all we get is his head peeking out over the top of the Nomad....

Now I'm really disturbed Greg !


Love the pics of the drive and the Hurst castle. You'd have to sell a lot of shifters to pay for those pools...


:lol:


Jim



Jim --

I thought of the very same thing after reviewing my pics! I was like WTF! No shop photos! But... the couple things going on there were top secret skunkworks type stuff.

I will tell you this -- after actually seeing one of their tri-five frames -- I was really impressed! The actual rails are HUGE! No wonder they do so well at the races/autocrosses! There can't be ANY flex in the car whatsoever!

Love the HURST Castle! Someone needs to get some Hurst stickers and put them on the signs leading up there (I would never actually condone actions like that but it would be funny as all get out!). :cheers:

[Garage Dog 65]

But... the couple things going on there were top secret skunkworks type stuff.

Catch ya in Columbus - and you better be packing those top secret pics mister !

His stuff is on my hero wall - I was stunned by the 928 porsche phaeton chassis he did back in the day - and the C2 chassis is beautiful work.

http://www.automedia.com/Ride_of_the_Phaeton/pht20100401fp/2

:cheers:

Jim

[GregWeld]

I found the ORIGINAL HURST shifter as used in Chariots during the Roman days....











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[Musclerodz]

Greg, you coming to Columbus this year? I promise only one day of rain.:D

[GregWeld]

Greg, you coming to Columbus this year? I promise only one day of rain.:D



No.... maybe next year. Somehow going there just isn't on my bucket list...

[Musclerodz]

No.... maybe next year. Somehow going there just isn't on my bucket list...

Have fun this summer checking off the list and will see you at SEMA.:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Love the frameless windshield. Any idea who makes it? Need one for a 29' :thumbsup:



Sorry - missed this post/question.... The windshield on my buddies Great 8 car is a Volkswagen windshield (I forget which model but not the bug) stuck in there up side down and it's down in the cowl 9"....

[GregWeld]

Thanks Skip!

I really do love the little useless POS....


But this rear end has been a nightmare from the get go. First it was SAR overfilling it and taping it for a vent in the wrong place...




BTW --- In talking to Jeff Kugel at L A Roadsters show.... I finally figured out that STEVE'S AUTO RESTORATION put the vent on the GEAR SIDE (ring gear) of the housing which - of course - flips the grease all over the f'n place.... and the VENT should have been installed on the back side of the housing, which would be the flat side of the ring gear...

Once again - SAR can build a show car -- but nothing you'd ever be able to actually DRIVE....

This winter I'll pull the housing and put a proper vent in.

[waynieZ]

Unbelievable!

[GregWeld]

Unbelievable!

Wayne --- I USED to think this stuff was unbelievable ... but not any more!


That shop should call itself "The Little Shop of Horrors"!:woot:

[SBDave]

Looks good Greg! I try to drive that stretch of HWY 1 from SLO to Monterey once a year. Soo much fun, but rough in some places due to constant construction.

I had the pleasure of meeting Amanda Hearst at a party one time, but that's kind of a long story. :)

-Dave

[GregWeld]

Looks good Greg! I try to drive that stretch of HWY 1 from SLO to Monterey once a year. Soo much fun, but rough in some places due to constant construction.

I had the pleasure of meeting Amanda Hearst at a party one time, but that's kind of a long story. :)

-Dave

Well thank gawd you didn't hook up with PATTY Hearst! You might have gotten shot or kidnapped! :lol: :woot:


Driving that road is just way too much fun... I absolutely love it!

[GregWeld]

A buddy called today and said -- "how 'bout we take the '32 up to visit Timmy Diver" (Divers Street Rods)... DONE!





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[Garage Dog 65]

Cool pic Greg ! Great background with the farm and the hills. And Divers shop and projects are amazing !

Jim

[coolwelder62]

A buddy called today and said -- "how 'bout we take the '32 up to visit Timmy Diver" (Divers Street Rods)... DONE!





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/22e6906b.jpgWOW!!! Greg, That's beautiful country up there.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: So peaceful lookin.

[56pickup]

Looking good Greg!

[GregWeld]

WOW!!! Greg, That's beautiful country up there.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: So peaceful lookin.



You know what else Scott.... It stays green like this all summer too!


Sadly -- then the rains come.


But that's when I head for SEMA - GNRS - RTTC - Thunderhill!

[waynieZ]

Nice picture Greg. I'm glad your finnally getting to put some fun miles on it.

[GregWeld]

Nice picture Greg. I'm glad your finnally getting to put some fun miles on it.



Thanks Wayne! Your time is coming! Keep on plugging away.

While I didn't build this one - I've built plenty of 'em and the only way they get done or improved - is to just keep after it. It's taken a lot of effort to get this one to the "enjoyment stage". I've waited for the little elves to come out and finish 'em up - but the little guys must always be busy helping someone else... :lol:

[Al Moreno]

Hey Greg! WTF..... you go to Divers and no pics? :willy: ........ Whats that hell is that all about? :_paranoid









:D

[GregWeld]

Hey Greg! WTF..... you go to Divers and no pics? :willy: ........ Whats that hell is that all about? :_paranoid









:D



My apologies.... it will never happen again.

I go there because they're friends - and we just BS and break some bread (pizza) and enjoy their lunch hour... kick tires on the builds and split. I forget to take pics of the builds.

They're restoring a Pontiac lightweight - "a swiss cheese car" - we spent so much time debating some items on the car - I just forgot pics. I'm the Dumbest guy in the entire UNIVERSE!:faint:

[Al Moreno]

My apologies.... it will never happen again.

I go there because they're friends - and we just BS and break some bread (pizza) and enjoy their lunch hour... kick tires on the builds and split. I forget to take pics of the builds.

They're restoring a Pontiac lightweight - "a swiss cheese car" - we spent so much time debating some items on the car - I just forgot pics. I'm the Dumbest guy in the entire UNIVERSE!:faint:

We will excuse you this ONE time, LOL :thumbsup:

[westoz]

I've just read the whole thread or "journey". Nothing I can really say, other than that's an awesome 32 you "now" have mate! Absolutely love it.:thumbsup:

Funny thing my wife I spent 4 weeks in the US last year for SEMA ( for me ), and checked Hurst castle on the way from SF to LV and have to agree with you on the funky lady with the corn thing.. weird, but funny.

[GregWeld]

Yesterday was as the pic I posted.....


Today -- we're back to normal!



The "pan" to the gutter in the corner was because the water was running UP HILL it was coming out of there so hard....




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[96z28ss]

Yesterday was as the pic I posted.....


Today -- we're back to normal!



The "pan" to the gutter in the corner was because the water was running UP HILL it was coming out of there so hard....


Its been sunny and blue skies for a couple weeks now here in Portland.
Keep the rain up there.

[Lenie]

Greg, that's what you get when you live in the convergence zone:D Beautiful here in Hic town.:woot:

5 minutes later.........RUH RO, spoke to soon....sunny and 81 my bu----tt

[67zo6Camaro]

A buddy called today and said -- "how 'bout we take the '32 up to visit Timmy Diver" (Divers Street Rods)... DONE!





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That's a great picture of that car...

The rusty one in the background.




The red one is not so bad. :yes:
Very cool you are out crusing and enjoying the view. Nice.

Brett

[GregWeld]

Brett! I've got 3,000 miles on her already! And considering I wasn't able to drive it for the first "year" -- I'm doing pretty good!:unibrow:


I would work at Divers just for the views. They're OMG! He's got 25 acres there and it's set up like an old farm with the 'junkers' strategically placed - and the farm tractors etc. Then you go in the buildings and it's a whole 'nother world.

[Ron in SoCal]

Brett! I've got 3,000 miles on her already! And considering I wasn't able to drive it for the first "year" -- I'm doing pretty good!:unibrow:


I would work at Divers just for the views. They're OMG! He's got 25 acres there and it's set up like an old farm with the 'junkers' strategically placed - and the farm tractors etc. Then you go in the buildings and it's a whole 'nother world.

Congrats on finally driving her! Now let's see some pics of that shop! :cheers:

[Garage Dog 65]

Then you go in the buildings and it's a whole 'nother world.



WE wouldn't know because our lateral-g buddy won't let us on the inside with few pictures of the wonderous things happening behind the curtain ... so we just set outside, dejected, abused, and feeling abandoned... watching a concrete girl, some corn and a goat.

:lol:

Jim

[GregWeld]

What a bunch of whiners.... 'er... oops -- I meant WINNERS.... just like your mommy told you were when you whiffed at the t ball... :willy: :D


So here's the amazing STORY behind this '54 Cheby.... the owner paid a guy a weekly wage to build this car - for 18 YEARS.... Yes you read that right... a weekly wage for 18 YEARS. The car never hit the street... a 'buddy' that is also a car guy talked him into bringing it over to Timmy. Where it was discovered that a crossmember was made out of exhaust tubing - and the quarters had a 1/4" plus of bondo in them... and the doors chipped the paint because the car had no support... and.... well you get the picture. It's now a brand new car and will debut at GoodGuys West Coast Nats in August.


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[GregWeld]

How 'bout a 1000 ft pounds of torque DIESEL in a Caddy....






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[GregWeld]

Note the "air intakes"....


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[GregWeld]

REAL billet wheels? Only the maker will know for sure.....


Yes I know it's blurry... wtf do you want for free? Your money back?





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[Garage Dog 65]

THANKS G-daddy !

:lateral:

[waynieZ]

Very nice looking work!

[67zo6Camaro]

How 'bout a 1000 ft pounds of torque DIESEL in a Caddy....






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Ok that got my attention, no naked lady pics needed here!

[Al Moreno]

OK Gregory, thats more like it! We Weiners .... 'er... oops -- I meant WINNERS appreciate it :thumbsup:

[OLDFLM]

Hey Greg! I drove the 405 east today and thought I was in your neck of the woods? I hope we can get together while I'm out here this week... Yakima is a big disappointment after driving 90 through the pass though! LOL

[GregWeld]

Hey Greg! I drove the 405 east today and thought I was in your neck of the woods? I hope we can get together while I'm out here this week... Yakima is a big disappointment after driving 90 through the pass though! LOL


Yakima is a big azz nothing..... Sorry to you Yakimanians...

Haven't heard from JayR -- so I'll email and see what the plan is.

[OLDFLM]

Looking like I'll be done early tomorrow and back in Seattle! :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

A buddy called today and said -- "how 'bout we take the '32 up to visit Timmy Diver" (Divers Street Rods)... DONE!





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Sorry for being late to the party, too busy reading Camaro threads lol

That looks awesome Greg, well done. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Looking like I'll be done early tomorrow and back in Seattle! :thumbsup:



Yeah Ty - We're all hooking up for lunch -- well not really "hooking up" like the young kids say -- but we're having lunch tomorrow. See ya then

[fleetus macmullitz]

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It's 35° here and I wanted my 2500th post to be a warm one...

[GregWeld]

Eeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!