'66 Nova Update

[novanutcase]

Just posting the little video I made playing with Movie Maker..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5opS8RjAgc

Oh!.......................and a few update photos to boot!

Drivers side view of crossmember tie-in to subframe downbars! I like the lightning holes they cut out of the box-in sheetmetal!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-23-07003.jpg

Passenger side view of Crossmember tie-in to subframe downbars!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-23-07004.jpg

Overview of engine bay with Crossmember tie-ins! I think I may move the A/C compressor up to where the passenger side Tie-in is to fill the void!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-23-07005.jpg

Removable crossmember to complete structural rigidity of subframe! This is a mock up! Plans are for a CNCed aluminum one but the mock up might look super cool as is so I guess we'll see!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-23-07008.jpg

Close up view!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-23-07009.jpg

How's it look so far? Any questions or concerns?

John

[Travis Rankin]

Beautiful!

Nice work, I like it:thumbsup:

[Blake Foster]

just wondering what the track width and ride heigh and wheel size/offset your using. the frame looks fairly wide. and did you make the upper control arms for any specific reason
it looks really good, geterDone!!!
WCPT 2008

[novanutcase]

I didn't measure it last time I was there but I think track width is 55"(?). Ride height is 4 3/4" from the cowl. Wheel size in front is going to be 17/9 with a 6"(?) offset! I'll try and get exact numbers for you next time I go up! The control arms we did are different from the stock vette arms so we could take advantage of improving the geometry instead of having to work around GM's stock arms. How's the '66 you guys finished?:captain:

John

[Garage Dog 65]

I really enjoy these updates guys - living vicariously through the lens of your cameras. Making excellent progress and the car is bad a$$ ! You're almost there - So you'll be at Columbus right ?? :lol:

Didn't see Jake's name in the credits list !!!

Don't forget the garage dogs - the work don't get done without them !

BTW, I vote yes to moving the AC to the upper spot to fill that area. Or move the Alt over and put a Paxton on the left side... that would certanily balance it out visually.

Jim

[ironworks]

The track width is 54.5. the wheel BS is about 6.5. These are stock corvette wheels. The ride height is 5". The wheels turns lock far beyond what we ever would need. We will be ordering the rack this week.

As far as the upper controls arms go. We wanted to lengthen them to improve geometry. We built them from scratch to improve the roll center. Plus we wanted to use the cross shaft mounting to improve alignment adjustablity. I got some super hot rod numbers from some boys in the know on C5 C6 geometry and we set this front end up accordingly.

Did you run with the 59.5 Track width on you morrison chassis under that nova?

[Blake Foster]

WE built the chassis for the nova and the track is 52.5 but it runs 19 x 8.5 with 6 bs and it goes lock to lock with room to clear and the frame is 4" off the ground.

[ironworks]

Well 1st off we are a Procharger shop and secondly I don't think we could fit anything more than a hair dryer under the hood of this thing. And we could not get Conair to sponsor us on this project so I guess we will leave it naturally aspirated.

We are currently working on the inner fenders and hinges braces that we modified to fit the recessed firewall and lower ride height. I thought about calling and complaining to Chris Alston that his hinge braces hit my tires on my lowered Nova.

It would be alot easier to hang the Ac down below use the notch for some other stuff. We still have to put the dry sump under the hood with Radiator and fans. Plus condensor, and overflow tank, and all 8 coils a million other things.

How is the german C5 coming along?

[ironworks]

WE built the chassis for the nova and the track is 52.5 but it runs 19 x 8.5 with 6 bs and it goes lock to lock with room to clear and the frame is 4" off the ground.

Wow those control arms must be burried against the Engine. I thought you guys used an art morrison clip on the front. SORRY. What rack did you guys use, we use a woodward rack on all our projects like this.

So when I tell john his car is like 10lbs of crap in 5lbs bag you completely understand where I'm coming from.....

[Garage Dog 65]

How is the german C5 coming along?

Hi Rodger !

Wait till the Boss catches you playing on the internet !! :lol:

Got a little work done on the car this weekend. First days off for the past 4 weeks. Plus the 500 was this weekend - so some party time was required. Wow, the rain really sucked though... One nice thing about race weekends here in Indy is all the race shops do an open house. It's really great to get to go through all these high-end shops and see/talk to people. Force, Pedergon, Cory Mac, Vance and Hines, Beast, Simpson, the local hot rod shops, engine builders, chassis builders, etc... open the doors and let everyone just hang out - way cool of them. Next opportunity is the Brickyard and US Nationals if anyone is in town at those times.

Cut the jack spurs off the bottom and clearance a path for the outside frame rails. Pulled some measurements and doing some basic piece part buildup stuff right now. Definitely need a weeks vacation just to stay in the garage and work through to get something accomplish - you guys are gettin way ahead now... Hope to see you and the truck in Columbus ! (and bring John and the finished Nova too !!) I'll buy you guys a beer if I can get through the crowds to you magazine superstar car builder guys :bow:

Jim

[novanutcase]

Updates:

Time to lengthen the torque tube and drive shaft now that the scattershield is on!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-31-07008.jpg

Steering column mock up!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-31-07011.jpg

We had to notch the CA fender supports otherwise the tires would hit them on bounce along with lengthening them since we cut the cowl back! I think it looks great!
Driver side:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-31-07009.jpg
Passenger side:
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-31-07010.jpg

Stainless gas tank. We're doing something a little different with the tank but once we get farther along I'll post up a pic!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics5-31-07013.jpg

Should I hit it or quit it! LOL!!! Just kidding!!

John

[syborg tt]

Should I hit it or quit it! LOL!!! Just kidding!!

Still really up in the air on this. It's kinda a "Hard" decision if you ask me. :unibrow:

[novanutcase]

Still really up in the air on this. It's kinda a "Hard" decision if you ask me. :unibrow:

LOL!!!! Check your mail! I sent you a parting shot!:lol:

JOhn

[HWY Nova]

John,

I'd rather talk about your current Nova than your future-ex.

--Eric

[novanutcase]

John,

I'd rather talk about your current Nova than your future-ex.

--Eric

LOL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why don't we talk about using cell phones in public toilets!!!!????!!!

John

[ZZ3ElCamino]

LOL!!!! Check your mail! I sent you a parting shot!:lol:

JOhn

Not fair, we all need a parting shot :lol:

[kennyd]

this is travis on kennys computer but anyway.....


I will take it if you send it..... [email protected]

[novanutcase]

Not fair, we all need a parting shot :lol:

this is travis on kennys computer but anyway.....


I will take it if you send it..... [email protected]

Sent.............:unibrow: :lol:

John

[kennyd]

Sent.............:unibrow: :lol:

John


Thank you sir.......lol

[Phewes]

crazy man crazy..

truly inspired me!

you guys are awesome and very talented!

[ccracin]

Not fair, we all need a parting shot :lol:

John,

Hook an east coast brother up.:unibrow:
[email protected]

[Blake Foster]

Hey John
Yes the engine is really wedged in there, we actually had to make a custom manifold for the heater lines and there is about 3/8 between the frame and the fittings. We used a power Mustang rack so it is a little wide but not much els to choose from.
i hear you on the procharger there is no way to fit one in there!!

[novanutcase]

I hear you on the procharger there is no way to fit one in there!!

Sure there is! BFH!:lol:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/sledgehammer.jpg

John

[Blake Foster]

OK i stand corrected!!!:thumbsup:

[novanutcase]

Look what showed up in my mailbox when I got home today!

Rear Trunk Lid Hinges!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics6-7-07005.jpg

Sub floor's coming along nicely!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics6-7-07010.jpg

Hmmmmm......I can already tell this is going to be one of those "surprises"! What's he doing with that package tray?

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics6-7-07014.jpg

Profile shot of the car!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics6-7-07013.jpg

Rodger must've been drunk or something! He usually doesn't give up this many pics! LOL!!!

J/K Rodger!!!


John

[TravisB]

im lovin the stance......very nice!

[G-Body]

:hail: wow

[Garage Dog 65]

That stance is killer all by itself - you're gonna destroy some poor unsuspecting road warriors out there..... get plenty of video !

[Blake Foster]

hummmmmmmmm i can see alot of really cool stuff there,, car is looking KILLER ( what else was i to say)
seriiously looking really cool
are those the actual wheels your using?
do you have a color picked yet.
nice work!!

[novanutcase]

ALLKAR at PT.com chopped these for me!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/HammersonNova.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/AllkarwheelsNova.jpg

Here's what the car would look like in orange!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/OrangeNova.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/OrangeNovaSS.jpg

I'm not sure if I want to go this color but I have to admit it looks pretty cool!

John

[Datsbad]

ALLKAR at PT.com chopped these for me!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/HammersonNova.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/AllkarwheelsNova.jpg

Here's what the car would look like in orange!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/OrangeNova.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/OrangeNovaSS.jpg

I'm not sure if I want to go this color but I have to admit it looks pretty cool!

John

Sure looks like a certain porsche !!!

[novanutcase]

Sure looks like a certain porsche !!!

LOL!!! Does doesn't it!!!:lol:

John

[Datsbad]

LOL!!! Does doesn't it!!!:lol:

John

That was planned right?
I like it personally

[novanutcase]

That was planned right?
I like it personally

Yeah! We're just throwing some schemes around and seeing how they look!:lol:

John

[rich-allen]

Damn, I go huntin at Tejon three times a year. This thread is making me want to stop by the shop. :hail:

[ironworks]

Your welcome to stop by anytime.

[DocDave]

Looking Good John, I Love those budnik's

But Im not sure about that Orange...Im thinkin BLUE! lol

Forget that color. Everyone does orange now-a-days. LOL. Gives me an idea of what that style wheel would look like on my ride. :)

[Garage Dog 65]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/AllkarwheelsNova.jpg

Hey John, info on the wheels in the above shot ? Man they look like something off a military weapon ! Very dangerous looking machine with those tucked.

Jim

[Jr]

What happened to the blue color with the HRE wheels?

[cometose]

What happened to the blue color with the HRE wheels?

Rodger had all posts with "anti-orange" sentiment removed...



..j/k

[ironworks]

My personal 2nd choice is probably blue, But I opinion is to make the car stand out. Blue would look good, but would be more subdued. I like the black cherry also. My personal favorite is orange. I'm not sure if John has even 0narrowed it down to one direction on the color wheel.

Rodger

[Jr]

How about midnight blue?

I think the stance, LS7, rollbar, and exhaust note will make the car standout:thumbsup: ....That is one nasty car!

[deuce_454]

i just painted a bike in a color thet would look plain awesome, a hugger orange BC with a yellow pearl-candy and heavy CC. turned out electric orange, with yellow reflections...i think a flat porche orange will look alittle dull on such a square car, you need a paint job that high-lites the coke-bottle lines and gives the car some shape.. chosing a color just because it looks great on a car as curvy as a porsche might be a mistake...

id look into a paint with some Mica/pearl effect, 3-layer effect kind of refinish..

[novanutcase]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/AllkarwheelsNova.jpg

Hey John, info on the wheels in the above shot ? Man they look like something off a military weapon ! Very dangerous looking machine with those tucked.

Jim

I think their ZE Forged "Tachs"............

[Sales@Dutchboys]

I love those budnik's! I wish I would have looked at those when I bought my wheels....

[Mick Mc]

Didn't Detroit Speed build a Nova that was blue...It sure was purty...


Mick

[ironworks]

The only one I find is Yellow.

[Mick Mc]

My mistake.
It was Street Machine of the Year 2001 Good Times Gazette October 2001.
Built by Doug Schults of StreetWorks based in Auburn, Washington.
For Ted And Sue Richardson of Snohomish, Washington.

That car had a great stance.
Bahama Blue

Mick

[TravisB]

I wanna say I rememeber a light metallic blue 66 or 67 with 17's and 18's with a big in SBC that won SMOY a few years ago like maybe 7 or 8.......the car had a nice stance and center exit exhaust in the rear.

John and Rodger-is there a completion date for the car yet?

[TravisB]

My mistake.
It was Street Machine of the Year 2001 Good Times Gazette October 2001.
Built by Doug Schults of StreetWorks based in Auburn, Washington.
For Ted And Sue Richardson of Snohomish, Washington.

That car had a great stance.
Bahama Blue

Mick


looks like we were typing at the same time. ha ha
And I was a couple years off......:D

[Garage Dog 65]

I think their ZE Forged "Tachs"............

Thanks John !

[novanutcase]

My mistake.
It was Street Machine of the Year 2001 Good Times Gazette October 2001.
Built by Doug Schults of StreetWorks based in Auburn, Washington.
For Ted And Sue Richardson of Snohomish, Washington.

That car had a great stance.
Bahama Blue

Mick

Is this the car you're talking about?

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/Color.jpg

John

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Yup!

Boy have times changed, I remember when that car won SMOTY....And now you have to have 200K in your car to compete!

[ironworks]

Completion date, We have to pick color and wheels first.

Maybe mid next year ish. If John has picked a color by then. HAHA

Rodger

[TravisB]

Completion date, We have to pick color and wheels first.

Maybe mid next year ish. If John has picked a color by then. HAHA

Rodger


so maybe next year columbus.....sounds reasonable for sure. Come on john stop hangin with the stripper make up your mind ha ha j/k

[68protouring454]

i think john has been overdosing on sausage:_paranoid pizza's

[mosconiac]

Here's a few photos of another similar car thats been running around the midwest for a few years. They do look good in adriatic blue.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/mosconiac/Car%20Shows/IMG_1080small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/mosconiac/Car%20Shows/IMG_1082small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/mosconiac/Car%20Shows/IMG_1084small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/mosconiac/Car%20Shows/IMG_1085small.jpg

[Mick Mc]

John
Yes, that is the car, and a good picture too.

mosconiac
That is a good looking car and I LOVE the bigblock too. (some people won't be surprised by that)

I love the blue, but there seems to be ALOT of blue cars (maybe because it looks good)

Maybe Roy Pigford thought the same thing when he chose the colors for his Nova. And it looked like it was the right choice...

Mick

[Steve Chryssos]

I just finally took a little time to sit thru all 30 something pages of this build. I am in total awe by you guys at Ironworks. You do things with a tubing bender that blow my mind. Hindsight is always 20-20. The only thing I would have done different is to have increased the wheelbase by rolling the rear wheels back 2" or more. Not because you needed to, but because--given your incredible talents--you could.

As for color, I love the orange Carrera theme. Just stretch the SS out real wide so that it consumes a lot of space. Stretch it to the point that the letters are so wide that they are barely legible as S's No reason why the same theme can't be used with a bright color other than orange. On a car this special, you could paint it ass brown and it will still be cool.

You should post a picture of the guy who works the tubing bender taking a bow. Insane!! :faint:

[ironworks]

Thanks, I will pass on the compliment. Sean and Brycen have done most of the work on this project. They work very hard.

We just bought a tubing roller to up the anty on some of our next projects. We have some ideas on using the roller that should really blow peoples minds. W started the tubing roller on Johns car, with the tube on the firewall. Then to top it off we just bought Soildworks to start designing a lot of one off parts for projects to be machined. We also bought a bunch of other big tools, that is will be paying on for years to come, Look out.

Thanks again

Rodger

[HWY Nova]

Hey Rodger,

I know a good SolidWorks guy!


--Eric

[Leadfoot1]

Rodger...Reading that last phrase...i was thinking it was going to end like this; "We bought many other big tools with the money John is dropping in our shop"!

'Sorry, couldn't help it :rofl:


Lead. :lateral:

[ironworks]

Well at $55.00 per hour, I don't know about that.

[ironworks]

Eric, I heard that solid works guy works for Champs Bar-B-que and Ironworks T shirts. That is way cheaper than going to class in Fresno. But not as fat free.

Rodger

[HWY Nova]

Boy, am I hungry!

[ironworks]

Wow speaking of Solidworks Eric, You will never gues what the DHL guy just dropped off.:woot:

Rodger

[HWY Nova]

Rodger / John,

We need to talk!


--Eric

[ironworks]

Well you know where to find me for 12 hours a day.

I'm gonna install solidworks this afternoon. But the lap top is next week some time.

Rodger

[Mick Mc]

Another guy that works half days.
With that new computer program you might end up working more, that sounds like fun.

Mick

[HWY Nova]

Rodger is picking up SolidWorks rather quickly. I know where Rodger is heading with his new-found 3D modeling capabilities.... stay tuned! I had a great time with Rodger on Friday (Rodger: Thanks for the goodies & lunch!!!).

I also saw John's Nova on Friday, and it is coming along nicely. Rodger painted one of the rear quarter panels orange just to see how it looked...... just kidding. Seriously: the Nova looks great. A lot of effort is going into details that my not be seen in photos, but the workmanship is outstanding.

--Eric

[ironworks]

Yeah solidworks is working out good, I have new high score, I even found the hidden free credit on level 4.

All I can say is that eric could design just about anything in solidworks. I'm sure the things he could do would be unreal. You could probably fly to mars or the moon.

[novanutcase]

Yeah solidworks is working out good, I have new high score, I even found the hidden free credit on level 4.

All I can say is that eric could design just about anything in solidworks. I'm sure the things he could do would be unreal. You could probably fly to mars or the moon.

Or at least know that all the pumps will work......:lol:

John

[Young Gun]

after finally realizing i cannot afford a 66 roller...i need more pictures of your build to satisfy my appetite...MORE PICTURES!!!!!!!!! hahah

[novanutcase]

after finally realizing i cannot afford a 66 roller...i need more pictures of your build to satisfy my appetite...MORE PICTURES!!!!!!!!! hahah

Sounds like someone went shopping............:lol:

John

[Young Gun]

Sounds like someone went shopping............:lol:

John


as a 17 year old senior in highschool... ive been spending my summer working and trying to save up enough to buy something i can wrench on senior year...after following your build i wanted to try my hand at something like that...but i cant find something decent...so watching yours will have to do :cheers: keep it up!!!

[novanutcase]

as a 17 year old senior in highschool... ive been spending my summer working and trying to save up enough to buy something i can wrench on senior year...after following your build i wanted to try my hand at something like that...but i cant find something decent...so watching yours will have to do :cheers: keep it up!!!

What's wrong with the build you have going on? I bet that bad boy is gonna be buff!!!:thumbsup:

John

[Young Gun]

What's wrong with the build you have going on? I bet that bad boy is gonna be buff!!!:thumbsup:

John

hahah yah thats moving pretty slow...and thats my dads car...so while i get to wrench on it...i dont have much say on how or what goes into it...which is fair considering hes spending his money on it haha...but the engine is almost done...we need to stick the serpentine kit on there bolt on a carb and some headers and shes done....its pretty sick...sadly i dont think it can compare with yous:drool: :drool: :drool:

[novanutcase]

LOL!!! Just remember! Slow and steady wins the race! Keep looking for that '66 roller! When the time is right she'll pop up! Once you get her in the garage then you get to stare at her for hours envisioning what you want to do. You may go as far as actually writing a list of things you want to do. By the time your done it'll be time to go to bed. You'll wake up the next morning, look at your list, and toss it!!!

Then you'll do it all over again!!:lol:

John

[syborg tt]

Once you get her in the garage then you get to stare at her for hours envisioning what you want to do. You may go as far as actually writing a list of things you want to do. By the time your done it'll be time to go to bed. You'll wake up the next morning, look at your list, and toss it!!!

Then you'll do it all over again!!:lol:

John


Fairly certain that you & I are also doing "Lists" over and over again even though your car is being built as we speak.

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Not Lists!!!

we have a HUGE one going for what has to been done in 9 days!!!:willy:

Paul

[novanutcase]

Don't forget to put Red Bull on there!!!

John

[HWY Nova]

John,

How big could your list be?

Let's see:
1) Wheels
2) Paint
3)
4)

Only two items on your list.

--Eric

[novanutcase]

John,

How big could your list be?

Let's see:
1) Wheels
2) Paint
3)
4)

Only two items on your list.

--Eric

I gotta decide the type of cup holders that are going to go in the console!!!:lol:

John

[HWY Nova]

..... I remember #4 now: Buy new underwear for after the first time you drive the Nova!

--Eric

[Young Gun]

oh trust me ive made plenty of lists hahah...parents got on me a bit about focusing more on school and less on the car hahah...oh well its summer now...i get to dream about cars all i want:woot:

[novanutcase]

..... I remember #4 now: Buy new underwear for after the first time you drive the Nova!

--Eric

I'll have to go to Costco and buy a whole pack!!!:lol:

oh trust me ive made plenty of lists hahah...parents got on me a bit about focusing more on school and less on the car hahah...oh well its summer now...i get to dream about cars all i want:woot:

Maybe ya' ought ta git off yer duff and start makin' some dough for the '66??!!!??:P :lol:

John

[ironworks]

Somebody got a dry sump tank today to go with their new undie's.

I think we will put it in trunk, Oh did I say that out loud?

Rodger

[Young Gun]

Maybe ya' ought ta git off yer duff and start makin' some dough for the '66??!!!??:P :lol:

John

making minimum wage isnt helpin too much...i have about 3.5k saved up so im hopding to learn to weld and be able to try my hand at replacing any bad metal on a car i get...which should hopefully help cut costs a bit...i can fab most interior aspects...now i just need the car hahah

[novanutcase]

making minimum wage isnt helpin too much...i have about 3.5k saved up so im hopding to learn to weld and be able to try my hand at replacing any bad metal on a car i get...which should hopefully help cut costs a bit...i can fab most interior aspects...now i just need the car hahah

I was where you are at your age! Quick tip - Think outside of the box when it comes to making money! Many times this will yield you a career that will make you more money than you could hope for now!

JOhn

[novanutcase]

Somebody got a dry sump tank today to go with their new undie's.

I think we will put it in trunk, Oh did I say that out loud?

Rodger

Uh Hu.....Any Pics to corroborate this???:lol:

John

[novanutcase]

Radiator support structure

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PC220200.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PC220199.jpg

Package Tray

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PC220188.jpg

I'll try and get more updated pictures since I saw the car last weekend on my way up to go whitewater rafting and it has the radiator and A/C condensor mounted along with a few other little details.

Happy 4th of July Everyone!:patriot:


John

[EFI]

making minimum wage isnt helpin too much...i have about 3.5k saved up so im hopding to learn to weld and be able to try my hand at replacing any bad metal on a car i get...which should hopefully help cut costs a bit...i can fab most interior aspects...now i just need the car hahah


I was where you are at your age! Quick tip - Think outside of the box when it comes to making money! Many times this will yield you a career that will make you more money than you could hope for now!

I'll try and get more updated pictures since I saw the car last weekend on my way up to go whitewater rafting and it has the radiator and A/C condensor mounted along with a few other little details.

JOhn

Well said, John. When I was 17 I had a '66 Ford Fairlane, and I desperately wanted to give that car the "treatment". I tried funding that dream working in a bakery, going in at 2:30am and making donuts. When I left the place to go to college, the owner, who is a great guy, told me two important things - 1. Think outside the box, and 2. Don't ever be average. A year later I dropped out of college and I opened my first of several pizza parlors.


John, your car, and the workmanship going into, is killer!
Can't wait to see more photos!

Happy 4th!

___________________
- Dan

[novanutcase]

When I was 17 I had a '66 Ford Fairlane, and I desperately wanted to give that car the "treatment". I tried funding that dream working in a bakery, going in at 2:30am and making donuts. When I left the place to go to college, the owner, who is a great guy, told me two important things - 1. Think outside the box, and 2. Don't ever be average. A year later I dropped out of college and I opened my first of several pizza parlors.


John, your car, and the workmanship going into, is killer!
Can't wait to see more photos!

Happy 4th!

___________________
- Dan

Funny how that happens eh?!!?:lol:

Just to elaborate, when I say "Think outside the box" I mean be aware of opportunities that present themselves! Many times you're so busy in the grind that you don't see an opportunity when it's presented to you.

Entrepreneurship is the fastest way to retirement and is much more satisfying on the way there!

John

[Blake Foster]

Hahahaha thats funny
Entrepreneurship is the fastest way to retirement and is much more satisfying on the way there!

yea the part i like best is being able to take any day off you want go for 2 hour lunches 3 times a week leave early paid holidays and sick days show up when you want regular pay cheques and the bonus cheques:unibrow: ............. nice!!!...........

oh wait that was my last job:_paranoid

if people ask now i tell them i am retired....... cuz what else would i be doing if i was retired .......... building cars!!!

You figure out what color and wheels your using yet?????????

[novanutcase]

Hahahaha thats funny
Entrepreneurship is the fastest way to retirement and is much more satisfying on the way there!

yea the part i like best is being able to take any day off you want go for 2 hour lunches 3 times a week leave early paid holidays and sick days show up when you want regular pay cheques and the bonus cheques:unibrow: ............. nice!!!...........

oh wait that was my last job:_paranoid

if people ask now i tell them i am retired....... cuz what else would i be doing if i was retired .......... building cars!!!

You figure out what color and wheels your using yet?????????

Yeah but I bet you're having WAY more fun doing this than your other job!

Color and Wheels will be finalized after Columbus.............otherwise Rodger said he's gonna lock me in the closet until I make a choice!:lol:

John

[novanutcase]

Radiator and A/C Condensor

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics7-05-07001.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics7-05-07002.jpg

Closing off the rear wall

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics7-05-07005.jpg

Trans Tunnel/Seat brackets

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics7-05-07004.jpg

Peterson Dry Sump

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics7-05-07006.jpg

John

[ZZ3ElCamino]

I am set watching this build and Marty's Syclone build.

Car is looking bad a$$ John!

[p_call]

John,

I have got to come over and meet you and Rodger at Goodguys this weekend. Any idea where you might be?

Pete

[novanutcase]

Just wanted to welcome a new sponsor..........

Wilwood Brakes!

Thanks for all your help Guys!!!

John

[ironworks]

I have never even bee to ohio, let alone know where we will be.

I pm you my number.

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Congrats John,

Looking forward to meeting you guys this week!:thumbsup:


Paul VanNus

[wiedemab]

We should all meet up somewhere - even if it's just briefly at the show to put faces with names/usernames.

I'll be there Friday morning through Sunday.

Later,

Brandon

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Lets all meet up at my car...


Paul

[Mick Mc]

I here-by appoint Rodger as social director.
Your responsibilities include, but not limited to, gathering all phone numbers, sharing all phone numbers and herding all of us together for what is going to be one crazy weekend.
Anyone not wanting to have a good time is urged to let everyone else know NOW.

When is roll call Rodger?

Rodger, did the "members only" jackets arrive yet for you?

All of the G/Touring guys have to show some force.

Mick

[HRBS]

Lets all meet up at my car...

thats one way to get a crowd around your car !:D

Anyone attending the Thursday kick off party ?
Thats where I'll be with the green 64 and some :cheers: in my hand.

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Just dont stand to close!

Ill be sporting a bright yellow Jegs Hat and a DSE shirt most of the weekend!


I dont know of to many who will have a car their!

Plus im wont be leaving my car! LOL


Paul

[HRBS]

I dont blame you.... you and your dad should be very proud.
The car looks great (from what FEW pics I've seen).
Heck... I've seen more pics of Johns front crossmember :hail: than i have your whole car :lol:

Looking forward to the show.
Now I must go and pack my 2 shirts and one pair of briefs !

[Sales@Dutchboys]

lol, Thanks

finally got out and drove it yesterday, put about 30 miles on it got quite a few thumbs up's and number 1's which was really cool

We will be posting a lot of pics after Columbus, We have a couple pretty trick items under the hood.......:question:


Paul VanNus


P.S be sure to check out Jrs camaro!

[ironworks]

Social director? how bout the 6'6" landmark. You can do the logistics stuff. If you want my cell phone number just pm me. I have no idea where anything is in Columbus since this is my first trip. So if you want to meet up name the place we shall see what we can do. I have a feeling I will be doing crowd control and bodyguard duties for John. I guess he can be Rob and I will be Big Black. If you don't get then you should watch Mtv.

Alright time to do work, son.

[wiedemab]

Paul, I thnk we have each other's cell #'s. I'll stop by your car and introduce myself - before I crawl all over/under it checking it out!!!!!!!!!!!

Rodger is right - I've got to get to the garage and get some work done, or I'm never going to get anything finished.

Looking forward to Friday!

Later,

Brandon

[syborg tt]

Just wanted to welcome a new sponsor..........

Wilwood Brakes!

Thanks for all your help Guys!!!

John

John - do i need to copy and paste my post from Pro Touring over here ??

ps - the PR guy is hard at work.

[novanutcase]

OK! One more time!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/wilwood.gif

When Rodger and I were trying to decide on what Brakes the project '66 we are doing deserved we figured it would have to be the best so there was only one name that came up - WILWOOD

Thanks Wilwood! We look forward to working with you on this and future projects!!

John:D

P.S. How'd I do??:_paranoid :D

[XcYZ]

P.S. How'd I do??:_paranoid :D

lol, pretty good! I hope they threw in a t-shirt, too. :D

Have any new pics? We need more Nova porn. :bow:

[ironworks]

The word on the street is that John is going to start wearing a nascar style drivers suit, so he can properly display all the sponsors as he travel to columbus this weekend. Just don't ask him how the car was running.

I will see what I can do with some pics for the big cheese, today. The trans tunnel is looking Sick.

Rodger

[XcYZ]

I have a new name for the John's car:

porNOVAgraphy

:D

[ZZ3ElCamino]

I have a new name for the John's car:

porNOVAgraphy

:D


:lol:

[novanutcase]

The word on the street is that John is going to start wearing a nascar style drivers suit, so he can properly display all the sponsors as he travel to columbus this weekend.

Me trying to do the "sponsor" thing at Columbus!:_paranoid :willy: :lol:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/RickyBobby.jpg

John

[Mick Mc]

I hope John dosen't get to hot wearing his driving suit all weekend in Columbus with the 'your name here' velcro patches everywhere.
I did hear that he has his own table set up every day from 1 to 3 to sign autographs and take photos with his fans.
The evenings are reserved for sponsor meetings.
I hope the extra body guards he's bringing will be enough to hold back the stampeding fans. Extra Sharpie pens and 8x10 for everyone.


Mick

[HWY Nova]

Mick,

Sounds like you've already met John! He does have a 'following'.


--Eric

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Me trying to do the "sponsor" thing at Columbus!:_paranoid :willy: :lol:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/RickyBobby.jpg

John


ahahahahhaha

:hail:

[novanutcase]

I hope John dosen't get to hot wearing his driving suit all weekend in Columbus with the 'your name here' velcro patches everywhere.
I did hear that he has his own table set up every day from 1 to 3 to sign autographs and take photos with his fans.
The evenings are reserved for sponsor meetings.
I hope the extra body guards he's bringing will be enough to hold back the stampeding fans. Extra Sharpie pens and 8x10 for everyone.


Mick

No rest for the weary!!!:lol:

Mick,

Sounds like you've already met John! He does have a 'following'.


--Eric

The only thing following me are crazy strippers and bill collectors!!:_paranoid :lol:

John

[novanutcase]

Well......I'll be leaving for Columbus in the next 10 hours and Rodger was kind enough to send me some photos so you'll have to be happy with these until we get back!

Tranny Cover

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics7-05-07008.jpg

Tranny Covered

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics7-05-07011.jpg

Wings for Exhaust clearance

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics7-05-07009.jpg

I'll try and take LOTS of pictures and maybe some video at the show and post it!

Wish me Luck!!!:)

John

[syborg tt]

Wish me Luck!!!:)

Luck - you don't need luck - you just need a big memory card

[novanutcase]

Luck - you don't need luck - you just need a big memory card

I tried to but you had them all!!!:lol:

You BETTER send me some pics!!!:thumbsup:

John

[Garage Dog 65]

Well I noticed John is back from the show - so that must mean he has selected a color for this wicked ride ???? Rodger wouldn't have let him on the plane without making that difficult choice .... would you ?

[novanutcase]

Well I noticed John is back from the show - so that must mean he has selected a color for this wicked ride ???? Rodger wouldn't have let him on the plane without making that difficult choice .... would you ?

Actually, he said he would lock me in a closet until I made my choice so I'm typing in the dark right now so excuse me if there are some typos!!!:lol:

John

[Garage Dog 65]

It's kinda like picking out your favorite german beer.... there are a couple that you think suck - but you want all the rest of them.

Unfortunately the selection timer has run out on you - and the default color is hot pink. I don't think we saw a hot pink Nova did we ? (might be a reason for that - not sure :wow: )

Good luck !

Jim

[novanutcase]

It's kinda like picking out your favorite german beer.... there are a couple that you think suck - but you want all the rest of them.

Unfortunately the selection timer has run out on you - and the default color is hot pink. I don't think we saw a hot pink Nova did we ? (might be a reason for that - not sure :wow: )

Good luck !

Jim

We were at the House of Kolors booth and decided that Hot Pink was perfect for Micks Chevelle project!:rofl:

John

[syborg tt]

I tried to but you had them all!!!:lol:

You BETTER send me some pics!!!:thumbsup:

John

shoot me your addy and i'll send you some pics i only took a few

[TravisB]

Rodger-how many peices is that rear portion of the tunnel? looks like a bunch. very nice sheetmetal work

[Leadfoot1]

It's kinda like picking out your favorite german beer.... there are a couple that you think suck - but you want all the rest of them.

Unfortunately the selection timer has run out on you - and the default color is hot pink. I don't think we saw a hot pink Nova did we ? (might be a reason for that - not sure :wow: )

Good luck !

Jim


I've been searching for a picture of that Hot Pink Nova since yesterday!!!!!!!

I know i saw one in (i think) Super Chevy a COUPLE years ago...(it had black tinted windows and was on the cover if i remember correctly) Pink, but still nice. Anyone?

Lead.

[ironworks]

Rodger-how many peices is that rear portion of the tunnel? looks like a bunch. very nice sheetmetal work

4 you can see them in the pic. 1 top back, 1 top tapered front section, 2 sides. We did lot of work on the pullmax and eckold and english wheel. It is pretty complex

[Garage Dog 65]

4 you can see them in the pic. 1 top back, 1 top tapered front section, 2 sides. We did lot of work on the pullmax and eckold and english wheel. It is pretty complex

Sweet work. I'll need one for the porsche. Don't throw away the templates ! (you could even do it now if that's easier ??)

[ironworks]

Sweet work. I'll need one for the porsche. Don't throw away the templates ! (you could even do it now if that's easier ??)

templates????, Johns car is the template, that piece is one off

[TravisB]

4 you can see them in the pic. 1 top back, 1 top tapered front section, 2 sides. We did lot of work on the pullmax and eckold and english wheel. It is pretty complex


ya your right now i see it. I was going to guess four or five. Very nicve work did brycen(spelling) do that?

[FaBrycation]

yeah i did the tunnel, it was alot of work.

[L8ONBRAKE]

I know everyone sometimes makes too much of a big deal about weight. I remember a recent thread where someone was asking how much the lead filler weighed on a subframe :rolleyes:

However I can't help but wonder how much all that steel weighs? Is it comparable to the stock stamped sheetmetal and frame? Or are we talking an extra few hundred pounds? Don't get me wrong, most of us add an extra 100 pounds in dynamat alone. All that steel though must add up?

BTW Awesome car of course, league of its own :cheers:

[FaBrycation]

all the steel does add more if you look at just that. but when you consider the all aluminum LS7 and drivetrain compared to the stock cast iron. and the fact that we cut off about 5 inches from the sides and 2 1/2inches from the middle of the firewall. if i had to guess i would say it probably evens out or close to it.

[TravisB]

yeah i did the tunnel, it was alot of work.


looks killer bro

[Porterbuilt]

yeah i did the tunnel, it was alot of work.


Props...:thumbsup:

[novanutcase]

Boys!

Let me just say that you can't even fathom how good this guy is!!!!:thumbsup:

John

[EFI]

yeah i did the tunnel, it was alot of work.

Looks like lots of work - Awesome job!

Boys!

Let me just say that you can't even fathom how good this guy is!!!!:thumbsup:



Appears this Dude takes some serious pride in his work! Good for you Man!



______________
- Dan

[novanutcase]

Appears this Dude takes some serious pride in his work! Good for you Man!



______________
- Dan

And a totally cool bro to boot!!! As good as he is he has zero attitude!! Just loves what he does! You should see the 4 door Honda he has and what he did to it! That thing looks FUN!!!

John

[novanutcase]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics8-1-07003.jpg



http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics8-1-07001.jpg



John

[J2SpeedandCustom]

Finally!!!! Looking good John.

[Payton King]

an updated pic of this car. I just can;t say enough good things!

[novanutcase]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/wilwood.gif

:D I'M PSYCHED!!! :D

We just received the first of our Wilwood Sponsorship Package, Clutch and Brake Pedals, and Rodger and Crew started mock up for it!

I think it looks great and I can't wait to get the second portion!:D

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics8-1-07006.jpg

Thanks again to Dustin and everyone else at Wilwood Engineering for working with us to put the best brakes and brake components in the business on this project!

Rodger and I look forward to continue working with them on this and future projects that we have planned!

John

[Roger Poirier]

Rodger and I look forward to continue working with them on this and future projects that we have planned! John

You will be broke for a long time after this project! :yes:

[novanutcase]

You will be broke for a long time after this project! :yes:

Yes but I'll be rich in character right?:lol:

John

[syborg tt]

Now that's a great post - looks awesome.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/wilwood.gif

:D I'M PSYCHED!!! :D

We just received the first of our Wilwood Sponsorship Package, Clutch and Brake Pedals, and Rodger and Crew started mock up for it!

Thanks again to Dustin and everyone else at Wilwood Engineering for working with us to put the best brakes and brake components in the business on this project!

Rodger and I look forward to continue working with them on this and future projects that we have planned!

John

[novanutcase]

Now that's a great post - looks awesome.

I learned from the best!!!!:lol:

John

[NovaBlue71]

John, the car is looking amazing.

:)

Joe VanNus

[Tom.A]

Wow. First time looking at this thread.........your car is awsome and the guy's at Ironworks are doing some nice work. :thumbsup:

[ron w]

I have to say I really think this car is amazing and can't wait to see it finished-Can you bring me up to speed who's doing build etc.. Ron

[novanutcase]

I have to say I really thing this car is amazing and can't wait to see it finished-Can you bring me up to speed who's doing build etc.. Ron

LOL!!! Thanks Ron! You may want to go back to this thread:

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=10541&page=6

Post #57

OR......

Hit the Ironworks sponsor link at the bottom.......:D

(Tell 'em John sent ya'! I get a free Pepsi whenever I recommend someone!:unibrow: ;) :lol: )

John

[ironworks]

Wow john 1 more referal and you get a bag of chips. See ya saturday.

Rodger

[novanutcase]

Wow john 1 more referal and you get a bag of chips. See ya saturday.

Rodger

Can I get the Nacho Cheese ones?:lol:

John

[syborg tt]

Wow john 1 more referal and you get a bag of chips. See ya saturday.

Rodger

How can I earn some of the Chips ??

ps - I like "Baked" BBQ

[ironworks]

How can I earn some of the Chips ??

ps - I like "Baked" BBQ

step one, decide what you are going to build
step two, worry about that after step one

[syborg tt]

step one, decide what you are going to build
step two, worry about that after step one

yep i am sure having a tuff time picking my next project. It's hard i like to many car and trucks.

[69c4x11]

Keep -um-coming {pics} Damn right , Rodger , It's awesome :hail: :hail: :hail:

[ironworks]

I will have to talk to John, we might post some pics here pretty quick. It is coming along nicely. Things have been super busy at the shop lately with all the new projects starting and the downward slide of the truck.

You alabama boys need to come to the reunion next month, I have lodging covered if you get here. Ask neil about his trip to Black Angus last year, it was very funny. At least for us californians.

Rodger

[xplantdad]

Holy cow...what a cool build! Took me almost an hour to go through the whole post...but it was definitely worth it :thumbsup:

I had relatives that lived in the Shafter/Wasco area. Lots of open space to go fast out there :unibrow:

I, too, can't wait to see some more updated photos of this build:cheers:

Bruce

[RECOVERY ROOM]

How can I earn some of the Chips ??

ps - I like "Baked" BBQ
I will get you some cookies and milk,way better than chips.:thumbsup:

[novanutcase]

LOL!!!! I think he's on a "health" kick! He likes the "baked" chips!!!:lol:

John

[syborg tt]

LOL!!!! I think he's on a "health" kick! He likes the "baked" chips!!!:lol:

John


Need to get rid of the 15 pounds i put on over the winter

[novanutcase]

Need to get rid of the 15 pounds i put on over the winter

Time to start doing sprints!!!!!:lol:

John

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Need to get rid of the 15 pounds i put on over the winter
Is that from last winter or this winter coming up

[syborg tt]

you guy's crack me up.

[novanutcase]

Just a few quick pics of the progress we're making! We're mostly just finish welding the chassis so we can get it ready for the powdercoater! These are pics of the tunnel side braces!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shpopics9-20-07002.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shpopics9-20-07003.jpg



John

[Mick Mc]

John

I noticed the picture on the last page of PHR October . Is the cat out of the bag? Is this a rendering of your car. It does fit with the Rodger orange peel color idea.

Mick

[novanutcase]

John

I noticed the picture on the last page of PHR October . Is the cat out of the bag? Is this a rendering of your car. It does fit with the Rodger orange peel color idea.

Mick

Haha! No, not even close! We've got something brewing though.......hehehe!!:unibrow:

John

[syborg tt]

man the car is looking really good.

?? powdercoater - is all the metal work done on the car

Just a few quick pics of the progress we're making! We're mostly just finish welding the chassis so we can get it ready for the powdercoater! These are pics of the tunnel side braces!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shpopics9-20-07002.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shpopics9-20-07003.jpg



John

[dave96dcm]

I asked it on another forum, but this one seems to get more traffic, how do you plan on attaching the floor sheet metal to the frame? Will it be welded on before poweder? Or is it going to sit on top or underneath the frame tubes?

Thanks

[novanutcase]

I asked it on another forum, but this one seems to get more traffic, how do you plan on attaching the floor sheet metal to the frame? Will it be welded on before poweder? Or is it going to sit on top or underneath the frame tubes?

Thanks

The floor panels will be welded on prior to powdercoat then, once it comes back, each section will be filled to prevent drumming and a floor will be laid on top of that!

man the car is looking really good.

?? powdercoater - is all the metal work done on the car

Gettin' close! We're finish tig welding all the joints that were tacked for mock up on the chassis!

John

[ntchbl67]

I'm a fabricator myself but of course your project is way over my league!!!!
Your car the most interesting thing i've ever seen in my life!:hail: :hail:

I would like to try and do something like that someday with my 67 camaro so I just asking you for permission to get ideas of all you pics.

Congratulations on you build and hope everything comes good and soon!

[ntchbl67]

I'm a fabricator myself but of course your project is way over my league!!!!
Your car the most interesting thing i've ever seen in my life!:hail: :hail:

I would like to try and do something like that someday with my 67 camaro so I just asking you for permission to get ideas of all you pics.

Congratulations on you build and hope everything comes good and soon!

Spell check!!!!I guess my keyboad is busted cause "the letter befoe the s"don't wo k!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[novanutcase]

I'm a fabricator myself but of course your project is way over my league!!!!
Your car the most interesting thing i've ever seen in my life!:hail: :hail:

I would like to try and do something like that someday with my 67 camaro so I just asking you for permission to get ideas of all you pics.

Congratulations on you build and hope everything comes good and soon!

I'm OK with it but you have to ask the Ironworks Big Boss!!!:hail:

John

[HWY Nova]

I'm sure Rodger will set up some licensing agreement in order to share his knowledge....

[dave96dcm]

The floor panels will be welded on prior to powdercoat then, once it comes back, each section will be filled to prevent drumming and a floor will be laid on top of that!

If you don't mind me asking, what will you be filling it with? Some type of foam?

[ironworks]

balsa wood

[ironworks]

I'm sure Rodger will set up some licensing agreement in order to share his knowledge....

Eric you have hung out with me long enough to know that there is no knowledge, just luck.......

[dave96dcm]

balsa wood

Wow I would have never guessed that, I guess that it is true that you learn something new every day. Is that a common way to do a floor on a frame like that?

[novanutcase]

Dropped her down to ride height(4.5 at the cowl!) to make sure wheel clearance is OK! Rodger wanted to see what it would look like with big rotors so he stuck his truck rotor on the back wheel!:lol:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics9-25-2007005.jpg

This is how we decided to finish the diff cage! I couldn't bear to cover up the beautiful tube work so we're just going to leave her as is! Just got to finish off the corners!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics9-25-2007014.jpg

Sub floor is all tacked in!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics9-25-2007016.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics9-25-2007017.jpg

John

[HRBS]

John... have you and Roger thought about a throttle pedal yet ?
That looks pretty tight.
We had a similar problem when I slammed the Impala. The tunnel became so wide that it limited the room for a pedal. I bent the stock assembly bracket and fab'd up an 's' shaped arm. Works but is still kinda tight. Yours looks even tighter.

[Payton King]

it is like playing golf with my friend with a 0 handicap....you get tired of saying great shot. LOL

I love the big rotor look on the rear.

[HWY Nova]

Rumor has it that John has little feet, but he has a big....... wallet.

--Eric

[TravisB]

what thickness is the sheetmetal inside the car?

[ironworks]

Actually the gas pedal is going to be designed by a aerospece engineer. Haha

Really it is....

Last I heard the rocket scientist was working on the brake pedals also. But the gas pedal actually has lots of room since it will be a hanging pedal. I may not be able to fit my size 15 in the with room to spare. But John had foot enhancement by the doctor of the stars Dr 90210 so he has perfect feet,,,,Now. He does not need those cute driving booties, that I have.

[ironworks]

what thickness is the sheetmetal inside the car?

18 gauge

[HWY Nova]

Has the Aerospace Engineer heard about the gas pedal yet?

I think its time to visit Ironworks! Will you be at the shop this Saturday?

[novanutcase]

Depends......who's buying the BBQ and beer?!?:cheers:

Maybe I'll come up and bug everyone in the shop, stay over at Rodgers swingin' singles pad(Not sure if you know this but he had Sean fab a small stage and brass pole in his living room in place of the TV! Jakes the bouncer in case anyone gets too out of hand!), and go hotlapping on sunday!:unibrow: :lol:

Can you bring the mini or whatever toy you decide to flog that day and run a few sessions with us on sunday at Speed Ventures?

John

[HWY Nova]

I am available on Saturday, but I already have plans for Sunday.

I've already asked Rodger, but I need to ask you too John: Don't you ever rest?

[ironworks]

Well Rodger is all registered for Sunday. I will be at the shop Saturday attempting to install my torque arm in car #1 of the Fuentes Autosales Race team. The rollcage is currently under constuction as we speak.

Let me know Eric I will be here. John you can crash if you need, but Jake says he gets first pick on which couch.

Rodger

[novanutcase]

I am available on Saturday, but I already have plans for Sunday.

I've already asked Rodger, but I need to ask you too John: Don't you ever rest?

REST? Is that some sort of Swahili word? Rodger do you know what he is talking about?

Ben Franklin said it best when someone asked him the same question!

"I have plenty of time to rest when I am dead!"

Well Rodger is all registered for Sunday. I will be at the shop Saturday attempting to install my torque arm in car #1 of the Fuentes Autosales Race team. The rollcage is currently under constuction as we speak.

Let me know Eric I will be here. John you can crash if you need, but Jake says he gets first pick on which couch.

Rodger

Hey Rodger! Mr. Fuentes said that if we win we get a free side of Guacomole!

BTW I know what your up to with all that torque arm and chrome moly cage business!:mad: :lol:

Rodger I haven't registered for the event yet! Do you think that will pose a problem? You know how my schedule is!:rolleyes: I don't want to register and then have something come up!

John

[ironworks]

you mean you don't want to come up here saturday and see the 4130 cage with the Fikse wheels and torque arm and try to keep up with Fuentes#1.

I understand

Rodger

[novanutcase]

you mean you don't want to come up here saturday and see the 4130 cage with the Fikse wheels and torque arm and try to keep up with Fuentes#1.

I understand

Rodger

WHAT??? :wow: You got Fikse wheels too? YOU SUCK!!!!:mad: ;) :lol:

Are my driving skills really that much of a threat to you?:rofl:

John

[HWY Nova]

As Marty recently said: "You guys crack me up!"

[ironworks]

Driving skills.... Na I'm not scared :unibrow:

Drifting skills.......:willy: Look out in turn one for fuentes auto sales stunt driver......VIVE JUAN

Wow I just used my first smiley faces.

I have a set of 18" american racing wheels for sale now. Rodger ordered some new kicks for da whip today. I'm calling BFG for some R1"s.

I also go word that my magnesium manifold ships tommorrow also. I think your gust of good luck came my way, Some customers finally paid their bills.

[novanutcase]

Driving skills.... Na I'm not scared :unibrow:

Drifting skills.......:willy: Look out in turn one for fuentes auto sales stunt driver......VIVE JUAN

Wow I just used my first smiley faces.

I have a set of 18" american racing wheels for sale now. Rodger ordered some new kicks for da whip today. I'm calling BFG for some R1"s.

I also go word that my magnesium manifold ships tommorrow also. I think your gust of good luck came my way, Some customers finally paid their bills.

DAMN!!! I better get busy digging into those boxes!!!:geezer:

John

[syborg tt]

(Not sure if you know this but he had Sean fab a small stage and brass pole in his living room in place of the TV!

so how much you think it will cost to make and ship one of these to my new garage.

[novanutcase]

so how much you think it will cost to make and ship one of these to my new garage.

WOOHOO!!!:woot: :cheers: :fluffy: :clap: :theresa:

The party is ON!!!!! (I'll bring the dancers!)

John

[Mick Mc]

Ok guys its not fair.
I think that only three of us know the "Fuents" racing joke.
Maybe some pictures would clue in the rest of the world.
I don't think I was the first person to point out the 'Fuents' but the rest of the board needs some pictures. Let every one in on the joke. Or I'll speak up about a very stock, ac on, automatic, stock tires, V6,...


Mick

[novanutcase]

Ok guys its not fair.
I think that only three of us know the "Fuents" racing joke.
Maybe some pictures would clue in the rest of the world.
I don't think I was the first person to point out the 'Fuents' but the rest of the board needs some pictures. Let every one in on the joke. Or I'll speak up about a very stock, ac on, automatic, stock tires, V6,...


Mick

LOL!!!!:lol:

Sorry I wasn't able to make the drags! Rodger told me you guys had a real good time! ARe y ou going to make it over this way any time soon? Since I had to leave I guess I'm buying beers!:cheers:

John

[ironworks]

Ok guys its not fair.
I think that only three of us know the "Fuents" racing joke.
Maybe some pictures would clue in the rest of the world.
I don't think I was the first person to point out the 'Fuents' but the rest of the board needs some pictures. Let every one in on the joke. Or I'll speak up about a very stock, ac on, automatic, stock tires, V6,...


Mick

You know mic if you keep it up we won't let you in on our next joke. We will explain tommorrow after track day with pictures.

Rodger

[novanutcase]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/Logo_bfgoodrich.jpg
A HUGE shout out to BF Goodrich for sponsoring the project!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/bfg_gforce_r1_ci2_1.jpg
Guys! BFG are THE shoes that your car needs to be wearing when your cruising your favorite show or slaloming through your favorite canyon! Even before the sponsorship I ran only BFG on my cars so to have them come aboard is a special treat for me!
Thanks Again BFG for your support on this project! Rodger and I look forward to working on this and many future projects!

John

[syborg tt]

now that's cool - really cool

[novanutcase]

now that's cool - really cool

Can't wait to start burning up sets of tires "testing and tuning" at the track! BUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!:D

John

[syborg tt]

Can't wait to start burning up sets of tires "testing and tuning" at the track! BUHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!:D

John

Funny i can't to burn up my BFG on my little mini-truck

[novanutcase]

Hey All!

Sorry for not having posted in a while but we've mostly been waiting on parts like *cough,cough* the gas tank from Ricks Hot Rod Shop(Man, that thing is taking FOREVER! Too bad since we have a photo shoot for a certain magazine but it won't make it in time!) and the R & P from Woodward. We've been told that both should be arriving sometime this week. Sean has been working on the gaps of the car to get it ready for paint so nothing really new as far as fab. Some of the stuff that HAS come in:

Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft. All the stuff behind it on the rack is the Fast/Comp Cams stuff they sent us for the fuel system!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PICT0018-1.jpg

Fesler Hood Hinges

Forget The Rest And Buy The Best!

Pictures do not do these hood hinges justice! They are absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

Thanks Chris for coming on board and joining the team!


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PICT0019-2.jpg




Wilson Hood Pins

Ron Wilson was nice enough to send me a pair to mock up and see if I wanted to use them. Marty was right! If you are thinking of running hood pins these are top notch! Nothing even touches these for quality and looks!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PICT0020-3.jpg

When the gas tank and R & P come in we can finish off the trunk area and start to close up the quarters along with locating the dry sump tanks in the engine compartment.

I'm going to incorporate a Safecraft fire suppression system in the car and I'm trying to decide whether I should go with 2 5 lb bottles and seperate them. One for the engine compartment and one for the passenger compartment or if I should just get a 10 lb bottle and plumb them into both compartments? Push/Pull knob for activation or auto-temp sensing heads? FE-36 or Halon? I'm thinking auto-temp for engine compartment and push/pull for passenger compartment
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/LT5HAA.jpg

John

[ccracin]

I'm going to incorporate a Safecraft fire suppression system in the car and I'm trying to decide whether I should go with 2 5 lb bottles and seperate them. One for the engine compartment and one for the passenger compartment or if I should just get a 10 lb bottle and plumb them into both compartments? Push/Pull knob for activation or auto-temp sensing heads? FE-36 or Halon? I'm thinking auto-temp for engine compartment and push/pull for passenger compartment
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/LT5HAA.jpg

John

[/CENTER]

John,

I can give you some advice from personal experience. I was involved in a fire when I raced stock cars. A right side ball joint broke while I was leading the race. I hit the wall in turn one at about 80+. The impact broke the right front wheel off which in turn pulled the braided fuel line out of the fuel pump. As the car slid along the wall it pulled the wheel back through the car ripping the oil cooler off and tearing the body off the passenger side. Now the interesting part. Because the engine continued to run until the bowl was empty, it kept pumping gas and oil all over the headers. It created an inferno instantly. Since the body work including the firewall was torn open the fire tunneled straight into the cockpit. Luckily I had a Halon system in the car. It was a 5# bottle plumbed to cover me from head to toe. I hit the button and the fire was instantly out. (didn't have temp. triggers at the time) I climbed out of the car before it stopped rolling and without taking the window net down. Thats right the net was melted out of the window. That's how quick it gets really hot. I also had a triple layer fire suit, double layer gloves and nomex shoes. I did get some 2nd degree burns on my face because I had my visor cracked. It was about 90 degrees that night. I can say that the Halon system save my life. I have no experience with FE-36, but Halon does work very well. As for triggering, put the temp. sensing in the cockpit along with a push/pull. If I would have been knocked out, I might be dead. If you want something on the engine, make it seperate. When you set Halon off you can't breathe, that wouldn't be fun if you just have an engine fire. I'm not sure if the temp. trigger would be good under the hood depending on the trigger temp. I'm thinking push pull would do it. Anyway, sorry for the book but I am a firm believer in this equipment to say the least. Hopefully this helps.

Later,

[novanutcase]

John,

I can give you some advice from personal experience. I was involved in a fire when I raced stock cars. A right side ball joint broke while I was leading the race. I hit the wall in turn one at about 80+. The impact broke the right front wheel off which in turn pulled the braided fuel line out of the fuel pump. As the car slid along the wall it pulled the wheel back through the car ripping the oil cooler off and tearing the body off the passenger side. Now the interesting part. Because the engine continued to run until the bowl was empty, it kept pumping gas and oil all over the headers. It created an inferno instantly. Since the body work including the firewall was torn open the fire tunneled straight into the cockpit. Luckily I had a Halon system in the car. It was a 5# bottle plumbed to cover me from head to toe. I hit the button and the fire was instantly out. (didn't have temp. triggers at the time) I climbed out of the car before it stopped rolling and without taking the window net down. Thats right the net was melted out of the window. That's how quick it gets really hot. I also had a triple layer fire suit, double layer gloves and nomex shoes. I did get some 2nd degree burns on my face because I had my visor cracked. It was about 90 degrees that night. I can say that the Halon system save my life. I have no experience with FE-36, but Halon does work very well. As for triggering, put the temp. sensing in the cockpit along with a push/pull. If I would have been knocked out, I might be dead. If you want something on the engine, make it seperate. When you set Halon off you can't breathe, that wouldn't be fun if you just have an engine fire. I'm not sure if the temp. trigger would be good under the hood depending on the trigger temp. I'm thinking push pull would do it. Anyway, sorry for the book but I am a firm believer in this equipment to say the least. Hopefully this helps.

Later,

Chad!

Your little "book" will, more than likely, save my life someday so in the name of safety RAMBLE ON! PLEASE!!!:yes: :cool:

Then Halon it is! So you like the separate systems idea? I like the Auto-Temp sense in the cockpit idea. Didn't think about the getting knocked out part. Good suggestion although I'm not sure if Safecraft makes a bottle head with both push/pull and temp. I'll have to call them. The Auto-Temp sensors in the engine bay come in different temperature settings so I can have it go off at whatever temperature fire detection and suppression dictates. One of the reasons I'm thinking Auto-Temp sensors in the engine bay is sometimes when your engine catches fire you don't notice it in those first critical seconds. I think it would be better to have the system go off and suppress it before it really gets out of hand! Your thoughts?

Thanks for your post!:thumbsup:

John

[ccracin]

John,

First, after what I went through I hope I can help anyone stay safe in that situation. Also, I'm not saying FE-36 is worse than Halon. I just have no experience with it. The reason I say 2 seperate set-ups is that if you only have an engine fire, you don't want it going off in the cock-pit. Halon displaces all the oxygen not to mention it can slightly burn you from the cold if it hits bare skin right out of the nozzle. My crew guy accidentally discharged my system in line-up one night (oops). It took my breathe away quick. Here is how I would set-up the system.

1- 2.5 to 5# bottle for the drivers compartment. 2 nozzle for each seat. 1 pointing at feet and one at chest. Use an auto temp. trigger as primary. If they have a button to add then great.

1- 5# bottle for engine and fuel tank. 2 nozzles in engine compartment on near the firewall pointing toward the engine. This creates a barrier between you and a fire. put 1 nozzle pointing at the fuel tank between the drivers compartment and the tank. Again this is to create a barrier. Use a push/pull to trigger.

JMO. I give you alot of credit, most people wouldn't even think of this. I was amazed when I was racing. Guys would spend thousands on trick parts to go fast. Then they would buy a $79 fire suit and a $79 helmet and say they can't afford anything else. I had $2000 worth of gear I wore before you look at the fire system, fuel cell etc. I am able to write this because of it.

Your building one of the coolest cars I have ever seen and still have the right priorities. :thumbsup:

PS. I have the fire on tape. If I can find it I'll try to load it and post it.

Later.

[novanutcase]

John,

First, after what I went through I hope I can help anyone stay safe in that situation. Also, I'm not saying FE-36 is worse than Halon. I just have no experience with it. The reason I say 2 seperate set-ups is that if you only have an engine fire, you don't want it going off in the cock-pit. Halon displaces all the oxygen not to mention it can slightly burn you from the cold if it hits bare skin right out of the nozzle. My crew guy accidentally discharged my system in line-up one night (oops). It took my breathe away quick. Here is how I would set-up the system.

1- 2.5 to 5# bottle for the drivers compartment. 2 nozzle for each seat. 1 pointing at feet and one at chest. Use an auto temp. trigger as primary. If they have a button to add then great.

1- 5# bottle for engine and fuel tank. 2 nozzles in engine compartment on near the firewall pointing toward the engine. This creates a barrier between you and a fire. put 1 nozzle pointing at the fuel tank between the drivers compartment and the tank. Again this is to create a barrier. Use a push/pull to trigger.

JMO. I give you alot of credit, most people wouldn't even think of this. I was amazed when I was racing. Guys would spend thousands on trick parts to go fast. Then they would buy a $79 fire suit and a $79 helmet and say they can't afford anything else. I had $2000 worth of gear I wore before you look at the fire system, fuel cell etc. I am able to write this because of it.

Your building one of the coolest cars I have ever seen and still have the right priorities. :thumbsup:

PS. I have the fire on tape. If I can find it I'll try to load it and post it.

Later.

GREAT suggestions! Will definitely keep these in mind on setup of the system!

I have a question regarding bottle placement. I was thinking of mounting both bottles on each side of the trunk but after your nozzle placement suggestion of one pointing at the gas tank I'm wondering if the trunk is not such a good place to put them. Do you think it would get hot enough to affect the performance of the system if the gas tank caught fire? Maybe it would be best to put the bottles under the rear seats?

John

[ccracin]

GREAT suggestions! Will definitely keep these in mind on setup of the system!

I have a question regarding bottle placement. I was thinking of mounting both bottles on each side of the trunk but after your nozzle placement suggestion of one pointing at the gas tank I'm wondering if the trunk is not such a good place to put them. Do you think it would get hot enough to affect the performance of the system if the gas tank caught fire? Maybe it would be best to put the bottles under the rear seats?

John

I think it woould depend on the configuration. If the tank is going to be seperated from the trunk by the trunk floor, then putting them in the trunk may be OK. If the tank is exposed in the trunk then I would put them under the seat. Now that I am thinking about this, the bottle with the auto temp. trigger may have to be in the driver's compartment. The new bottle I have with the auto temp valve on it is just that. The Valve has the "sensor" built into it so it would have to be in the drivers compartment. In fact under the backseat may be to far from you and insulated to much. Can you fit a 2.5# under the dash or in a console if your running one? Sorry to throw a wrench in the works. Isn't that always the way, try to stuff 10# in a 5# bag! I'm sure you'll work it out.

[novanutcase]

I think it woould depend on the configuration. If the tank is going to be seperated from the trunk by the trunk floor, then putting them in the trunk may be OK. If the tank is exposed in the trunk then I would put them under the seat. Now that I am thinking about this, the bottle with the auto temp. trigger may have to be in the driver's compartment. The new bottle I have with the auto temp valve on it is just that. The Valve has the "sensor" built into it so it would have to be in the drivers compartment. In fact under the backseat may be to far from you and insulated to much. Can you fit a 2.5# under the dash or in a console if your running one? Sorry to throw a wrench in the works. Isn't that always the way, try to stuff 10# in a 5# bag! I'm sure you'll work it out.

Do you think 2.5 would be enough? What are the dimensions of a 5 lb bottle? If it's small enough I might be able to fit it under the dash. I don't think there'll be enough room under the console! I wonder of they make a temp sensor extension that you could run out to length?

John

[ccracin]

Do you think 2.5 would be enough? What are the dimensions of a 5 lb bottle? If it's small enough I might be able to fit it under the dash. I don't think there'll be enough room under the console! I wonder of they make a temp sensor extension that you could run out to length?

John

I guess thhat depends n how fast you can get out of the car and the size of the fire. The 5# worked great for me. I can say I don't think I would want to try to hold my breath for a 10# bottle to go in the drivers compartment. I can check the dimensions of my 5# bottle this week. It is over at my dad's shop. I'm guessing 4-5" in diameter and 14-16" long.

[dave96dcm]

Why not do 2 2.5 lbs under the dash, 1 for each front seat, and a 5 lb for the engine compartment.

[syborg tt]

Man I hope by the time we start cutting up the Camaro Chris will have hinges for the 2nd Gen Camaro's. Because those are some nice looking hinges.

ps - thanks for the Kudo's on the hood pins. They are an awesome piece and yep there also going on the Camaro.

Hey All!

[
Fesler Hood Hinges

Forget The Rest And Buy The Best!

Pictures do not do these hood hinges justice! They are absolutely BEAUTIFUL!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PICT0019-2.jpg


Wilson Hood Pins

[CENTER]Ron Wilson was nice enough to send me a pair to mock up and see if I wanted to use them. Marty was right! If you are thinking of running hood pins these are top notch! Nothing even touches these for quality and looks!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PICT0020-3.jpg

[novanutcase]

Thanks Chevy Rumble!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/ChevyRumbleCover.jpg

The kind folks at Buckaroo Communications gave the '66 a page of ink!

Thanks Steve Anderson and Josh Mishler for considering the car worthy! Thanks for making it happen Rodger!

John

[hellrace]

Amazing project just love the work thats been done to this car, really like the pics with the orange with the black ss stripes L O V E L Y :bow:
"I need to start earning more money" :willy:

[novanutcase]

Chipping away!:D

Mocking up the Woodward Rack!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics11-14-2007019.jpg

Mocking up the Dry Sump!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/shoppics11-14-2007022.jpg

John

[ironworks]

Hay what kind of wood did you guys use to hold up that steering servo valve? It looks like Pine.

[novanutcase]

Hay what kind of wood did you guys use to hold up that steering servo valve? It looks like Pine.

Yeah but it's a special, high tech pine made especially for holding up steering servo valves!

John

[ccracin]

Yeah but it's a special, high tech pine made especially for holding up steering servo valves!

John

Will you guys be clear urethaning it or maybe some hand rubbed oil? This car can not only be on Rides, but New Yankee Workshop as well! Nice!:rofl:

Looking good John. Keep the pics coming. :cheers:

[novanutcase]

Will you guys be clear urethaning it or maybe some hand rubbed oil? This car can not only be on Rides, but New Yankee Workshop as well! Nice!:rofl:

Looking good John. Keep the pics coming. :cheers:

LOL!!! Good Idea! Maybe I'll get Rodger and the crew to make some cabinets in the trunk!:lol:

John

[66zz430]

John, your project is really coming along, thanks for the updates.
The curve fan shroud is a nice touch. What fan are you running?

[JamesJ]

To go back to the fire system, I am not sure if this is pertinent to your setup but what we did is put them (the bottles) on their sides so they will go off if the car is upside down, and also lay them pointed in different direction so that if the car is on its side then at least on bottle will go off.

Oh and by the way very cool car…

[novanutcase]

To go back to the fire system, I am not sure if this is pertinent to your setup but what we did is put them (the bottles) on their sides so they will go off if the car is upside down, and also lay them pointed in different direction so that if the car is on its side then at least on bottle will go off.

Oh and by the way very cool car…

Thanks!

We are quickly running out of room so I think we may run the bottle or bottles in the trunk and plumb some line to the respective areas that we feel we will need the stream to be. Either that or I may put them under the seats!
The underdash compartment is filling up quick so we need to try and find another location for the bottles!

John

[novanutcase]

maybe a nice red oak closet organizer for behind the seats... make a good bottle mounting location.... i bet "norm" could whip it up out dattos and rabbit joints.

I was wondering who that new guy at the shop working on my car was!:wow: :lol:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/normattheshopcopy.jpg

John

[ccracin]

I was wondering who that new guy at the shop working on my car was!:wow: :lol:
John

LMAO!:rofl: :lol::rofl: I'm almost going to be disappointed when you finish the car. This thread has it all, great information, awesome car and it is rediculous funny. Norm always offers a measured print when a project is finished. How about this time?

[novanutcase]

LMAO!:rofl: :lol::rofl: I'm almost going to be disappointed when you finish the car. This thread has it all, great information, awesome car and it is rediculous funny. Norm always offers a measured print when a project is finished. How about this time?

You're going to have to ask Rodger about that..............and send $14.95 to.........

John

[Impala TT]

I was just admiring your RACK!! I know it's a Woodward, but which model is it?
Thanks,

Brent

[ironworks]

K series, the last one in existance. I had to beg for that one.

Rodger

[66zz430]

Rodger
what electric fan are using in that shroud?
thanks

[ironworks]

Spal, We made everything else

[Impala TT]

I thought that's what it was! Have you done any research on comparable racks? We're thinking of doing a Sweet Mfg. with integrated servo, but don't know of anyone with experience with them. Our car has C6 front control arms and spindles, with stock first gen track width.

Thanks
Brent

[ironworks]

I live in bakersfield which is like the redneck roundy round capital of California. Everyone I talked to said use the Wooodward. Plus the Woodward looks way cooler. If they last on the dirt and on ashpalt, for season it think they will last with what we are doing

[68protouring454]

i think woodward go its name from dirt track racing, however sweet is huge in the asphalt circle track out here in the east, they make very nice units and can go up to 22 inch between pivots. i will agree they do not look as cool, but you can get one for 600-800 complete.

[ccracin]

Sweet makes very nice stuff. I used their stuff in my Late Model. Check the 22" dimension. When I talked to them about our project they wouldn't go that wide. That was about 1 1/2 years ago. I can't remember for sure.

[68protouring454]

maybe its 21, but i did check with them as i was looking for a 22 inch pivot rack last spring and thats as wide as they liked to go

[ironworks]

Then a sweet rack would not have worked on this car any ways.

Rodger

[Impala TT]

Rodger,

We were wondering what track width you went with on the Nova? We are struggling finding a power rack with a 22.5" pivot. We're trying to run stock Camaro track width so we don't have a front wheel drive looking wheel! Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brent

[68protouring454]

Rodger,

We were wondering what track width you went with on the Nova? We are struggling finding a power rack with a 22.5" pivot. We're trying to run stock Camaro track width so we don't have a front wheel drive looking wheel! Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brent
there are two track widths that are talked about, hub to hub, and wheel track, hub to hub is what most chassis builders use when talking, so even if a stock camaro is 59 inch hub to hub and you build a new chassis 6.15 or whatever, you go deeper on the bs on the wheel which maintains wheel track width, yet in most cases gives you better scrub radius, among other things

[novanutcase]

Took a couple pictures of the car on the ground but they aren't very good! I'll try and get Rodger to snap a couple off!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/Nova5.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/Nova8.jpg

John

[Ricochet]

That thing just sits sinister!! Bad ass John! Much like everybody else, I have been watching this build for sometime - it's getting close!

Brent

[radrambler]

ALMOST SEE IT :lol:

all you need is more light on the car and the
pics would be fine ...WE NEED MORE ... IT LOOKS COOL


radrambler

[radrambler]

ALMOST SEE IT :lol:

all you need is more light on the car and the ...if you have these in your computer and have a program that works with pictures you can lighten them up and repost..im sure this would work.....
pics would be fine ...WE NEED MORE ... IT LOOKS COOL


radrambler

[ironworks]

here is some light with a farm truck in the fore ground

[awr68]

Is all the fab done? Ready for body/paint? Shop projects are looking great Rodger!! :thumbsup: