Thrift Shop Camaro

[Payton King]

The motor slid right in and Jim locked down the motor positon. About 5 inches back and over to the right 1/2 inch for steering shaft clearence.

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I had to throw my intake on just to see

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[Jay Hilliard]

Nice to see some positive progress after all the other crap you went through.

[Sieg]

Can't wait to see what the hood is going look like.

Please don't copy the Merc!

[Ron in SoCal]

4" cowl :stirthepot:

[Payton King]

Oh no! you know me better than that.

[Flash68]

Can't wait to see what the hood is going look like.

Please don't copy the Merc!

Payton doesn't copy anything... the man pioneers.

[Payton King]

Yea right, that is why our cars look like sisters. Your's being the ugly sister of course. LOL

[XLexusTech]

Oh no! you know me better than that.

L88? :stirthepot: Glad to see you pushing through!... whats your target debut? Asking because I am trying to put pressure on myself by committing to an event and would love to meet up with you guys..

[Payton King]

A cage that was less than user friendly with more than a few questionable welds...time to start over. I am doing this for fun on the track and not to get hurt if something goes wrong. With 2 kids and a wife, safety is the biggest focus of this build.

Out with old

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[Payton King]

Jim started by making me a transmission mount...it never had one.

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[hersheys69z]

This thing is bad. It is really cool to see a Camaro done like a modern continental series race car. Can't wait to see it finished.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBRmlVEvQO4

WOW, never thought anyone would get that....even did the voice as I was typing. Yes, I love commercials.



A cage that was less than user friendly with more than a few questionable welds...time to start over. I am doing this for fun on the track and not to get hurt if something goes wrong. With 2 kids and a wife, safety is the biggest focus of this build.

Out with old

Please tell me you are scrapping the TA for a traditional decoup 3 link too.

Surprised you are keeping the cowl.

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Sorry to hear all the issues you had to go through on the car Payton, Looks like you are in good hands now.

Looking forward to seeing the end result with the Nascar theme that you are going with on the car. Looks like its going to be a really cool! :thumbsup: Ill be checking back for updates.

[Ron Sutton]

Please tell me you are scrapping the TA for a traditional decoup 3 link too.


:)

..

[Beach Cruiser]

Nice progress! You're gonna like that G-Force transmission!

[Payton King]

Thanks for all of the kind words. Will try and post more pics tomorrow.

Yes to the decoupled 3 link and yes to getting rid of the cowl.

[Payton King]

Time to get the motor plate all sorted out. Good news, bad news. Bad news is the Hendrick motor plate I was going to use will not work. Just not enough room for the rack and the oil pump on the same side.

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Good news is Jim can build another one and put the pump where it needs to go.

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[Flash68]

At least you're the smart twin who put the oil pump on the correct side. :hitaxeonthehead:

[Payton King]

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[Payton King]

Here is something you do not see everyday. These are pulleys that Hendrick machines up for their motors. They are modular and they make them in different diameters to change the pulley ratios for different tracks and RPM ranges.

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[Payton King]

New oil pump location

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Alternator bracket

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We had to alter the water pump inlet to clear the right side oil pump and belt

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[Payton King]

You can see in this picture the clearence we gained with the water pump inlet

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Lower mandrel...just because it looks cool

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[Ron in SoCal]

It really bothers me that your motor sits behind your rack centerline ... :trophy-1302:

[Rick D]

It really bothers me that your motor sits behind your rack centerline ... :trophy-1302:

You could always move yours :poke: just sayin :D

Payton glad to see things moving in the right direction now!!

[Stovebolter]

Cool. Love the engine plate.

[65_LS1_T56]

Here is something you do not see everyday. These are pulleys that Hendrick machines up for their motors. They are modular and they make them in different diameters to change the pulley ratios for different tracks and RPM ranges.

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And they have lightening pockets! Those are cool :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Isn't it all FUN when you get together with a GOOD builder.....

[Vince@Meanstreets]

It ain't done yet.....:peepwall:

[Sieg]

Nice Payton! :thumbsup:

[Payton King]

My car building project now has just been a pleasure. The stress of my project is completely gone, so yes, the right person/builder makes all of the difference.

Ron, with the motor moved back as you noted, needed a remake of the fire wall which makes a great transition to my next set of pictures. That was almost like it was on cue.

Before we get to the firewall, we needed to do a little header fitment to make sure we were going to have room. These headers are from Jimmie Johnson's 48 car. They are made by Profab.

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[Payton King]

Since we moved the motor over about 1/2 inch and how wide these headers...a little frame notching was in order on the passenger side.

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This is the driver's side. Needed the room for the steering shaft. May still need to alter a tube but it is looking good.

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[Payton King]

Finally on to the firewall

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[Payton King]

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[Track Junky]

Looking great Payton. Should be ready for T-Hill in May right :D

[GregWeld]

Looking great Payton. Should be ready for T-Hill in May right :D




I'm thinking AUGUST SONOMA RACEWAY --- bring the girls and make a wine country trip before or after the event. NOW WE'RE TALKING!!

[Track Junky]

I'm thinking AUGUST SONOMA RACEWAY --- bring the girls and make a wine country trip before or after the event. NOW WE'RE TALKING!!

I think the ladies would really enjoy that. By then maybe even DG will have his car done. Good Ron says he's not going to come out unless we do Laguna but maybe this will entice him.

How are things looking on your end Payton?

[bonecrrusher]

That sucks balls having to cut all that work off and start over again.

At least its not funny car length anymore.

Do you need a CF intake box/lid - I have one from Carbotech or whatever company that made it - it has some damage to the back - but it is non painted and in raw CF.

[LS3 HQ]

Man good to see this back on track!! Best you get rid of those JRS stickers on the control arms!

[Sieg]

Winning! :thumbsup:

[Payton King]

I have an airbox, but thanks for the offer. NASCAR deal just like yours.

Not sure when the car will be ready, but doubt it makes it to CA this year. Me and my wife, on the other hand, that is about 85 to 90 percent chance.

[Payton King]

Well I only have a few more pictures left to bring this thread up-to-date where the car sits now. It is taking a few weeks off to catch it's breath and then we will be starting on the rear suspension and cage.

Seat mounts made prior to floor installation.

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Firewall, toe kick, tunnel and floors were next. Floors were stopped behind the front seats until the rear suspenson comes together.

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[Payton King]

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[Payton King]

View from under the car

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[coolwelder62]

Look's great Payton.

[Track Junky]

Nice!! :thumbsup:

[Sonar Chief]

Been keeping an eye on this build and your car is in good hands now!

Things are working out fast ... and they look great!!

[grendel]

L88? :stirthepot: Glad to see you pushing through!... whats your target debut? Asking because I am trying to put pressure on myself by committing to an event and would love to meet up with you guys..

We can drive together. I have a truck and trailer that will handle both cars.

Did JRS send a check?

[Payton King]

Nope, about what I expected.

[GregWeld]

Nope, about what I expected.



Gee..... Who'd a thunk it? DOH!! LOL

[Vince@Meanstreets]

looking good Payton!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

Been keeping an eye on this build and your car is in good hands now!

Things are working out fast ... and they look great!!

X2. :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

Looking good Payton.

[Stovebolter]

Cool. Floor reminds me of a couple street rods i channeled the floor in. Look real nice!

[Flash68]

Quit holding out you redneck. :D

[Sieg]

Quit holding out you redneck. :D

:lmao:

Payton invite him out and take him on a scenic tour of Deliverance Creek.

[Greg from Aus]

Quit holding out you redneck. :D

:lmao:

Payton invite him out and take him on a scenic tour of Deliverance Creek.

I love it around here.

Payton, it's a shame the guy is such a Dick, but I'm a big believer in Karma.
I see Frank from Prodigy swanning around with his new friends (victims) on Lisa's facebook. and I keep on thinking that one day I will see that he's been hit by a bus. :D

[Payton King]

...and make him squeal like a pig? LOL

Thanks Greg, what goes around comes around.

[slenning]

Looking good Payton. Gonna be awesome!! :thumbsup:

Damn, for some reason now I'm hearing banjo music.

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Dude, I took those first 4 pics? Was resident photog at RK and remember that car!

Sweet ride!:headspin:

[Payton King]

Small world..then we have met! I showed up about 1/2 way through the shoot.

You did a great job! Not sure if it was you or someone else, but someone had the refelection picture of my car in poster form on eBay. It is hanging in my garage now.

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Think you came in with tony

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Small world..then we have met! I showed up about 1/2 way through the shoot.

You did a great job! Not sure if it was you or someone else, but someone had the refelection picture of my car in poster form on eBay. It is hanging in my garage now.

I shot the base image on the turn table...a talented guy named John Macura did his Photoshop wizardry to create the mirror/reflection shot

[Justin@EntropyRad]

I'm thinking AUGUST SONOMA RACEWAY --- bring the girls and make a wine country trip before or after the event. NOW WE'RE TALKING!!

Wine Country Classics all the way!

[Sieg]

Payton, don't you think it's about time you fed the dogs?

[Payton King]

I am heading back out there Monday. Look for something next week.

[Gammaboy]

Aaaaaand Thennn?

[Payton King]

Let me get some pictures loaded up.

[Payton King]

I had to go back in my thread to see where I left off. Have pics downloaded so here we go.

When I last left off we (Pettigrew and myself) decided the cage was not safe with poor weld penetration in many areas. Cage and floors cut out, new firewall, floors and tunnel. Now time for the new cage...and yes the roof needed to come off to get good welds all the way around.

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[Payton King]

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We pushed the cage further out so he had to make some mods to the frame

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[Payton King]

Here is a before picture of my A pilar bar

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This is what it looks like when a professional does it.

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Here it is tied into the A pilar

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[Payton King]

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[SSLance]

Much better, especially on the A pillar bar!

And is that a RSRT box I see on the bench?!?! :D

[Payton King]

Yes it is...decoupled 3 link.

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Can't believe you had to cut the roof off..but it will be rigid for sure

[Flash68]

There's a new King..... his name is Payton.

Love this thing. Done right!

[Build-It-Break-it]

Wow, very nice. Night and day on the fabrication on the car now. Good to see some progress.

[GregWeld]

Ron Sutton Race Technologies (RSRT) "I spy" game!! Love it!!


Payton -- it's just going to be so worth the heartache.... This build is just smokin hot!

[LS7 Z/28]

So this far into the build how far have you shifted from used Cup car parts to ordering new expensive stuff? It's a slippery slope my friend. It starts out one way and ends up completely different. I'm sure there are a couple things that you've bought twice or three times already, you know how it is.

Is Ron also helping you with Front end geometry and sorting out the brake system? Can't wait to see more progress.

[WSSix]

Very nice, Payton! Always good to see forward progress being made.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Forward progress is always good.

[Sieg]

Hurry up a get to the stereo and cup holder install. :hello:

[Flash68]

Hurry up a get to the stereo and cup holder install. :hello:

And parking brake. :action-smiley-027:

[57hemicuda]

All street cars need parking brakes. What would you do in the winter when you run into the convenience store, and want to keep the heat running?

[GregWeld]

I now have to go look and see if USCA has an E Brake rule.... if they don't - maybe they should.... I think it's a legal requirement as a piece of safety gear on a "street" car.

The Miata has one.... LOL

[waynieZ]

Major difference Payton. Very nice!

[SSLance]

I used the parking brake in my Monte Carlo just a few hours ago... Jus sayin'

:D

[dunnjun]

Glad to see you're moving forward again Payton!

Don't stir the pot Greg.:underchair:

[57hemicuda]

If its not mandatory Greg, it should be. What happens if you need to get out and adjust your kids car seat at V.I.R., or need to vacuum all the dirt out of the car after an offroad adventure like Jeff Cleary always needs to do. A chunk of 2x4 just ain't cool.

[Payton King]

Thanks guys!

Some parts have been used and some have been new. My braking system is all new stuff and so is all of the suspenion. As an expample, the rods that I have for the motor are $3600 new. I got them from Roush with 3 test dyno pulls when they were working on bore and stroke combinations...$600.
Do you consider that used or tested? I call it a bargin.

Ron Sutton is working with me for front and rear suspension design and car set-up.

Which goes right into my next few pictures of the decoupled 3 link mock up. Sutton took my information and made a blueprint for the install. After installing the housing mount I had see what it looked like.

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[Payton King]

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[Al Moreno]

WOW! Coming out BADA$$

[GregWeld]

My leaf spring car is just looking older and older by the day.... You're killing me PK! LOL


Oh -- but mine runs and gets tracked -- so I have that going for me.... :>)


When this bad boy is done -- You - me - RS - DG - SS and my buddy Andy - we're coming east to run some of those big boy tracks! I'll bring the cars and the boys can come for the weekend... Mostly because I always wanted to "run" with some "NASCAR" cars.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Can't wait to see the finished product..in person :confused59:

[LS7 Z/28]

Damn that's cool. You're heading in the right direction.

[Sieg]

Payton - Damn nice recovery since your discovery of the limousine wheelbase. :thumbsup:

[bonecrrusher]

You going to have wedge and trackbar adjusters in the rear window?

[Panteracer]

Payton,
very cool stuff.. you can actually see the angles Ron and the boys
talk about in real life fabrication

I thought my cutting the swaybar and adding new tabs was
an undertaking.. not even close


Bob

[Payton King]

Thanks again guys! I am pretty happy with the direction that the car is going in now.

No cup holders, no stereo, no E-brake unless you count a block of wood, but a good possibilty of side windows.

Sieg, I do miss the thought of 4 doors though

[Payton King]

GW, I want you to make that East coast swing a reality..just make it next summer so I can participate.

Watts adjuster will be through the back window, the Accel link adjuster will be behind the passenger seat.

[Payton King]

Ihave been holding out on the pictures for some time, so here are more of the front down bars and dash bar.

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[Payton King]

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[Payton King]

The next shots are bars that triangulate at the dash bar.

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

decoupled seriousness going on here.

[Payton King]

Went to visit the car this morning. Have a few nice shots of the decoupled 3 link

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[Payton King]

Here are shots of the Accel link adjuster

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[Build-It-Break-it]

Wow, very nice progress! !

[Ron Sutton]

Oohhhhh


Ahhhhh



This will generate some tilted heads & furrowed eyebrows.


:)

[Sieg]

OK.......now this thread is becoming XXX Rated.

Who are you going to hire to drive this Beast?

:underchair:

[Payton King]

Someone faster than me...want the job?

[Justin@EntropyRad]

Oohhhhh


Ahhhhh



This will generate some tilted heads & furrowed eyebrows.


:)




Started already:y0!: ...still trying to figure out how that wizardry works

Almost like looking at an Audi's front suspension

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Nice thing about that set up is you can run a ton of anti squat.....if you are into that kinda thing.

Ive been trying to talk Guy into this set up for years. Maybe 4 or 5 more of these pop up and he'll cave.

[Payton King]

In the simplest terms...

On a conventional 3 link, as you move the top link down in the front, creates more forward bite on accelleration. The further you move it down and forward bite increases, it effects corner entry (decelleration) making the car loose. So you are limited to how much forward bite you can put in a conventional 3 link.

By adding the top bar (decel link) in a decoupled 3 link, you can tune/maximize forward bite/grip with the accel link (bottom link) and not have the loose problem since the top bar is controlling decelleration/corner entry.

Ron Sutton can explain it way better than I can, but that is it in a nutshell

[GregWeld]

NEED........ MORE........ TRACTION.......






Oh! Wait! Just crank on this thingy right here..... EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAA

[Flash68]

Payton sucks.

[Greg from Aus]

Very Very cool Payton

[fleetus macmullitz]

fpLQ0wtQ0R0

[Track Junky]

Nice thing about that set up is you can run a ton of anti squat.....if you are into that kinda thing.

Ive been trying to talk Guy into this set up for years. Maybe 4 or 5 more of these pop up and he'll cave.

Sure would be fun to put one of these together huh Vince. :cheers:


In the simplest terms...

On a conventional 3 link, as you move the top link down in the front, creates more forward bite on accelleration. The further you move it down and forward bite increases, it effects corner entry (decelleration) making the car loose. So you are limited to how much forward bite you can put in a conventional 3 link.

By adding the top bar (decel link) in a decoupled 3 link, you can tune/maximize forward bite/grip with the accel link (bottom link) and not have the loose problem since the top bar is controlling decelleration/corner entry.

Ron Sutton can explain it way better than I can, but that is it in a nutshell

I think you hit all 3 links with that explanation Payton. Really Awesome build. :thumbsup:

[Payton King]

Too Funny Skip!

So just like about everything else on this car. The place for the fuel cell was made to a dimension that no off the shelf fuel cell would fit. We also did not like that there was no protection for the cell in the event of a rear impact.

The rear section was cut out and re-made.

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One of the benefits of living in Charlotte is all of the used NASCAR parts as previously stated. I picked up this used can for $50.

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[Payton King]

Can in place and ready for top bracing

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This is the finished top portion.

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[Payton King]

All bolted together

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

$50 for that?? That's Petty theft.

[Payton King]

That was punny. LOL

DG-Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

That was punny. LOL

DG-Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Its just cause your project is looking better than all the other ones. :action-smiley-027:

going together quicker too.

[Flash68]

DG-Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I hate the car... the game... the player... everything... :lol:

Still wanna do a sale or trade? I didn't think so... :D

[Che70velle]

I hate the car... the game... the player... everything... :lol:

Still wanna do a sale or trade? I didn't think so... :D

Lol!

Going together nicely Payton. Where do you intend to run this car?

[WSSix]

Will there be any of that foam or other material to prevent fuel sloshing put in there, Payton? I know nothing about a NASCAR fuel cell. I just figured there would be something in the tank to help keep the fuel around the pump.

Car's looking good as always now that it's in capable hands.

[Sieg]

Looking great Peyton :thumbsup:

What's the capacity of the can?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Will there be any of that foam or other material to prevent fuel sloshing put in there, Payton? I know nothing about a NASCAR fuel cell. I just figured there would be something in the tank to help keep the fuel around the pump.

Car's looking good as always now that it's in capable hands.

That is just the protective case that the actual cell fits into. Either foam or rubber blader.

http://www.atlinc.com/pdfs/Racing/ATL-2014-Catalog-Page14.pdf

[Payton King]

Plan on running the car everywhere I can. Carolina Motorsports Park is 1 hour from here, Road Atlanta is 3, VIR is 2. I am close to some nice tracks.

...But it will be tagged for the street too! Vanity plate "ECBMF" East Coast Bad Motor Finger

I can get an out-of-date NASCAR bladder for $200. Per rules they can only race with them for 3 years, but they are good for 10 to 15 years. So as stated above, will have a bladder along with foam. Will be using a CTS-V pump with the help from Carl at Vaporworx.

It is an 18 gallon cell.

[carbuff]

VIR is 2.

Are you really that close to VIR? I would have thought almost double that time!

What are you towing with? ;-)

[Flash68]

Plan on running the car everywhere I can. Carolina Motorsports Park is 1 hour from here, Road Atlanta is 3, VIR is 2. I am close to some nice tracks.

...But it will be tagged for the street too! Vanity plate "ECBMF" East Coast Bad Motor Finger

I can get an out-of-date NASCAR bladder for $200. Per rules they can only race with them for 3 years, but they are good for 10 to 15 years. So as stated above, will have a bladder along with foam. Will be using a CTS-V pump with the help from Carl at Vaporworx.

It is an 18 gallon cell.

LOL... if anyone's car is a little bro to the other... it's me to you!

So one CTS-V pump is good enough for 800 hp? I know jack about the LS EFI stuff..

[Payton King]

So you heard about my mid-life crisis / daily driver/ tow vehicle?

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Skulls on the dash

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And the plate that sums it up.


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[intocarss]

Great Build And Congrats On The Truck

[Flash68]

The truck is a BEAST.... your wife must be proud. :lol:

[Sieg]

The truck is a BEAST.... your wife must be proud. :lol:

Around here those are known as prostetic enhancements.

:underchair:

[Ron Sutton]

Hey Guys!

For those not familiar, this is an offset, decoupled three link. The reason to offset the top link is to counteract the torque transmitting through the rear end housing.

With all 4-link, centered 3-link, truck arm, torque arm, leaf spring style rear suspensions there is a significant amount of torque steer. The friction of the bearings & gear mating surfaces in the rear end cause power loss ... in the 7-12% range. Due to the friction drag, that 7-12% power goes into rotating the rear end housing down onto the left rear tire & up off the right rear tire. This causes uneven tire loading. The LR tire gets 7-12% more loading ... and therefore 7-12% more grip ... than the RR tire. This causes cars to have more grip on the exit of LH corner & less grip on the exit of RH corners.

With a 3-link ... if we offset the top link to the passenger side the correct amount ... we neutralize the torque steer. When done correctly, the car now has the same torque applied to both rear tires for even grip on corner exit, regardless if LH or RH corner. We can't do this practically with other styles of rear suspensions.

The decoupled part is ultra bad ass. Because it is the only rear suspension version where we can have it all ... almost.

In all 4-link, centered 3-link, offset 3-link, truck arm, torque arm, leaf spring style rear suspensions ... the instant center (swing arm pivot point) defines the anti-squat for corner entry handling & corner exit handling. If you move the instant center to increase anti-squat for increased corner exit grip ... you are affecting the corner entry handling ... the opposite direction ... moving it toward loose handling on corner entry.

With any 3-link or 4-link track car, we're typically adjusting the top link(s) down at the front chassis mount ... bit by bit ... to increase grip on corner exit ... until the car starts to get loose on corner entry. Then we adjust the front of the top link(s) back up just enough to not be loose on corner entry. It is always a compromise between corner entry grip & corner exit grip. This is the case with any rear suspension model, except a decoupled version. FYI: There are decoupled torque arms, but they don't have the advantages of the 3-link. So I only focus on decoupled 3-links.

With a Decoupled 3-Link ... we have a dedicated top link for acceleration & a separate dedicated top link for deceleration. For short, we call them the "Accel Link & "Decel Link".

The Accel Link only loads up under acceleration. You can see the blue bushings in the Accel Link photos. Under acceleration, the top of the rear end housing rotates back & pulls on the Accel Link ... and compresses those bushings. The instant center formed by that Accel Link determines the anti-squat ... and therefore the tire loading & grip ... on corner exit. Under deceleration, the top of the rear end housing rotates forward & pushes on the Accel Link ... and releases the load on those bushings. The shaft inside the Accel Link "free slides" forward on deceleration ... to the point there is gap between the bushings ... and therefore no load on that link.

Under deceleration, just before the load is fully released on the Accel Link bushings ... the load is engaging the red poly bushings in the Decel Link. Under hard braking, the top of the rear end housing rotates forward and compresses the red bushings in the Decel Link. The instant center formed by that Decel Link determines the anti-squat ... and therefore the tire loading & grip ... on corner entry. This is completely independent of the Accel link.

Under acceleration, as the top of the rear end housing rotates back & pulls on the Decel Link ... this releases the load on those bushings. The shaft inside the Decel link "free slides" back on acceleration ... to the point there is gap between the bushings ... and therefore no load on that Decel Link.

It sounds complicated, but frankly it is pretty simple. I'm sure whoever came up with the original idea had sleepless nights figuring out. But once it is installed, it is simple to tune ... and bad fast. We typically set the Decel Link at 12°-15° uphill (to the front) and start with the Accel Link forming its instant center directly under the CG of the car.

I love this next part ...
Set the Decel Link as close to 15° as packaging will allow ... and forget it. From there we tune the Accel Link for optimum corner exit grip with no concern about how it affects the corner entry ... because it doesn't.

Tuning:
Need more corner exit grip? Place a 1/2" ratchet into the top of the adjuster cone you see in the photos & rotate clockwise to lower the front of Accel Link. Adjust it until you have optimum corner exit grip. If you go too far (getting "greedy" I call it) the car will push on corner exit. Simply turn the adjuster counter-clockwise until the push goes away. Easy-peasy.

In summation ...
In my experience, the offset, decoupled 3-link is the ultimate track car performance rear suspension. It allows the optimum grip on corner entry & corner exit, no torque steer & no impact on mid-corner handling. No other rear suspension can do all that. But there is a down side. It rides rougher on the street, as the poly bushings in the Decel Link add spring rate. I have some clients that run this set-up as a simple offset 3-link on the street, and swap in the Accel & Decel Links for track days. The 3 bolts & swap takes about 10 minutes.

IMHO this is not a suspension for most ProTouring cars. For 95% street use, little to no fabrication and keeping the rear seat ... I prefer a Torque Arm or Triangulated 4-link rear suspension. If done right ... 3-links, Offset 3-Links & Offset/Decoupled 3-Links are for hardcore cars that prioritize track performance over everything else. But these require professional fabrication, roll bar or cage & eliminating the rear seat.

:cheers:







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[Flash68]

The decoupled part is ultra bad ass.

Bringin the tech!! :lol:

Seriously Ron, this thing is so wicked cool. Thanks for bringing it.

:cheers:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Wow, nice mann rigg Payton!

That's why yer still the King.

:thankyou:

[Beach Cruiser]

Good Stuff Payton! That's a whole lot of truck, you'll need a step stool to get in that thing! Just signed up for the USCA event in Charlotte in July, I'm sure I'll see you there!

[srh3trinity]

So where does the GoPro mount for the rear suspension? I want to see it in action. Cool stuff and one of these days I want to dig deeper into the tech stuff.

[WSSix]

Nice truck Payton!

Thanks for explaining the fuel cell guys. Appreciate the lesson.

[waynieZ]

Sweet Tow Rig Payton!! That is some serious suspension tech right there, and very interesting. Looking good !

[Flash68]

That is just the protective case that the actual cell fits into. Either foam or rubber blader.

http://www.atlinc.com/pdfs/Racing/ATL-2014-Catalog-Page14.pdf

And don't forget the surge tank that sits inside in the middle/rear (shown on that PDF link).

[Gammaboy]

The next shots are bars that triangulate at the dash bar.

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Any reason you guys didn't use those diagonals to brace the bend in the front upper rails? Would have meant not having to penetrate the firewall, and would have given you better load paths?

[Payton King]

The angle would have been too acute to add much support. Hard to see from the photos.

Sieg, it is a 6 inch lift for the truck....a 3 inch lift for me.

Mills, will see you out there.

Wife is not digging it too much since she will need to drive it some to haul the kids around.

[LS7 Z/28]

Wife is not digging it too much since she will need to drive it some to haul the kids around.

Hahaha, years ago when my dad was racing circle track cars on a budget, my mom was stuck driving to work in the truck he used to haul the trailer. When you need a decent towing rig sometimes it's hard to swing paying for it without using it as a regular vehicle also. Unless your Weld. I'm pretty sure she's still pissed about having to drive a 1 ton crew cab dually everywhere instead of a little car. Sometimes things are a compromise.

[Payton King]

She is not suffering too much as she drives a convertible. I did offer to sell her car and get her a minivan.

My boys are 15 and 12.

[rixtrix1]

I have planned on doing the offset 3-link, watts on my '66 Malibu, but this makes so much sense it's crazy. I've seen something similar to the link parts listed in the Speedway catalog, but never the two way fitting at the rear axle. Sooo, where does one get this stuff?

[Payton King]

All of that stuff came from Ron Sutton. He calculated offset of links, heights of both the accel and decel links, etc. I ordered it from him. There is similar stuff in other racing retailers parts books, but the suspension design service and racing expertise has me giving my money to Ron.

[Payton King]

While the chassis stuff is coming along, we have also been getting the motor ready for assembly. After Jim made the motor plate, I took it to Ed to get my water and oil lines together.

The water pump I am using takes an o-ring and snap ring for the lines to the block.

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From each side of the water pump water goes to the side of the block. Water also enters the block from the front just like a normal small block. My motor also has spark plug cooling so there are 3 ports on each head.

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[Payton King]

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After the water lines were complete, we loaded up the motor and mocked it up in the car to get the layout of the oil lines. Because we moved the oil pump to the right side, we will need to run the lines around the front of the motor.

Check out how much material has been removed from the back of the block. This was the way a lightened block comes from Brodix.

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[Payton King]

Not much room to work with for the 2 oil lines that need to pass to the right side. They will run behind the rack and below the ballancer.

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[Payton King]

The scavenge line running fom the lifter valley was tricky. Ed machined a spot in the block for the line to pass through.

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and to the pump

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[Payton King]

One of 3 scavenge lines from the pan.

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The motor made a trip to Brown & Miller for the other 2 lines.

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The other line that you see in the above picture going into the pan is for the piston oilers.

[Matt@BOS]

Looks great Payton! Puts Dave's motor to shame.

[Track Junky]

Looks great Payton! Puts Dave's motor to shame.

Easy Matt. Hasn't that poor kid gone through enough already :confused18:

[Matt@BOS]

Easy Matt. Hasn't that poor kid gone through enough already :confused18:

No. Not unless the guys at Cortex measure his subframe and find it was built with a couple extra inches of wheelbase.

[LS7 Z/28]

Having the word "grenade" written on your intake seems like a bad omen.

[Payton King]

Dave's motor and mine are about the same minus my Aluminum block. His actually runs and mine is an empty shell. Pistons did come in last week though, so I am not far behind.

I am the only guy with extra inches...in the wheelbase department.

Did not notice the "grenade" until I posted the pictures. Motor guy, Ed Lesley, his shop is called Grenade Engines. Funny stuff.

[Flash68]

Looks great Payton! Puts Dave's motor to shame.

Potentially, yes. :secret:

Easy Matt. Hasn't that poor kid gone through enough already :confused18:

I got a few rounds left in me. :D

No. Not unless the guys at Cortex measure his subframe and find it was built with a couple extra inches of wheelbase.

That would be a game ender at this point. :lol:

Having the word "grenade" written on your intake seems like a bad omen.

Grenade... heh... I always thought that too.

Ed is a good dude... got a bunch of my dry sump parts and accessories from him. Payton should be in good hands there.

[Flash68]

Dave's motor and mine are about the same minus my Aluminum block.

We are Carolina cousins (I think that means married or something?)

I do envy your alum block, shorter stroke and EFI.... gonna be very cool.

[bergers59]

What kind fittings/clamps are those where the braided line meets hard line?

[Flash68]

What kind fittings/clamps are those where the braided line meets hard line?

Wiggins

[Sieg]

What kind fittings/clamps are those where the braided line meets hard line?

Wiggins

Flash has socks that match them.

[Matt@BOS]

Dave's car had me at the Ford stripes, but this one keeps pulling me back in with its aluminum block, short(er) stroke goodness, not to mention all the Brown and Miller stuff!

[Che70velle]

Flash has socks that match them.

Don't forget about the neck tie...

[bonecrrusher]

Nice Bro Truck! Hahah.

Where the skulls done by a previous owner?

That truck doesn't look like it will fit in your garage - my Duramax 2500 barely fits in mine.

Love the updates to the Camaro - we going to get a chance to see engine dyno vids anytime soon? What kind of EFI are you using - the TB based Holley unit?

[Payton King]

Yes, all the custom work was done by the previous owner. Frank Garcia, who was the center for the Carolina Panthers.

No way is that truck fitting in my garage. Top of the roof is 7'2"

Pistons and rings just came in so all I need is head studs and a cam. Motor vids are a few months away. Have not decided on an injection system, either AEM or Holley. May have a line on a throttle body off of an RO7.

What amazes me is I will be running an LS firing order and we called Comp cams. They have 50mm, SB2 cam blanks with an LS firing order sitting on the shelf. Just need to come up with specs to have it ground.

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[Graham08]

Very cool build! I've been following this for quite a while, just haven't commented yet.

Is the LS firing order the same thing as a 4-7 swap for a 1st Gen SBC? If that's the case, it doesn't shock me that they have the blanks on the shelf. It's pretty common for race engines, both SBC and BBC.

On edit: I see it's not the same. It's a 4-7 and 2-3 swap relative to the 1st Gen engines. That is interesting the blanks were on the shelf.

[Payton King]

I was doing it mostly for the type of electtonics I was originally going to run, but later found out it is good for about 5 HP. Not that I need 5 more HP but all the serious guys do. I think the RO7 runs that same order.

[seancarole]

The dual swap firing order for SBC is sometimes called ls fire order stole from
Found
On
Road
Dead
Anything to lessen the internal stresses to make it happy!

[Flash68]

Sandbagger.

[garret805]

I'm going to lose sleep waiting to see the finished product. This thing is insane.

[Beach Cruiser]

Wow, I missed the engine pages, that thing is going to be insane! Good thing you're in NASCAR country because you ain't getting any replacement parts from AutoZone if something breaks.

[Payton King]

It is going to be on the edge for sure. Pistons were made with the wrong pin height, not our fault, so they are making a new set. 6 to 8 weeks which translates into 3 to 4 months.

[Payton King]

Now that this thread got brought back up, I need to update.

Center bar on cage and gussets

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[Payton King]

The watts mount was too low to the station tubes. We cut it out, modified it and added the trick adjuster so we can make fine changes instead of an inch at a time like it was before.

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[Payton King]

Finally time for a tin work. Starting to come together and look like a car again.

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[Che70velle]

Very nice on the adjustable watts!
Hate to hear about the pistons, though. Pin height too high, or too low?

[Payton King]

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[Payton King]

Boxing out the top link

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[Payton King]

...and finally, the mini'est of mini tubs

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[Payton King]

Pin height was too high by .125 so the piston was too low in the block and we did not want to change rods.

[syborg tt]

It's seriously starting to look like a race car.

[Panteracer]

You could always line bore the crank up
That's what happened to my Pontiac
then all you need to do is:
Find the shortest timing chain ever
cut the dizzy so it will go all the way down in the block
cut the starter so it will align with the flywheel

Just being a smartass... I hate when things are
off by just a little

Cool build.. can't wait to see it finished

Bob

[Flash68]

It's seriously starting to look like a race car.

I was thinking USCA car.

[WSSix]

Nice to see some more progress, Payton. Thanks for sharing.

[GregWeld]

Big deal.... those are the same seats in my Miata....




LOL

[Build-It-Break-it]

Wow! Your car is looking killer! If I wasn't so stuck on keeping the rear seats I would of done the same set up.

[Graham08]

Thanks for the update! This project is too cool! I dig the Watt's linkage adjuster. I thought the one I made for my sprint car was trick...it uses a track bar mount from a NASCAR left truck arm to adjust in 1/4" increments.

It's sort of funny seeing the rusty tin that's left up against brand new tube.

Nice work!

[Payton King]

Thanks for the kind words guys!

Car is turning out way nicer than I had planned. Would have blasted the body before starting the project had I known what it would have turned into. Now I get to prep it by hand.

GW- Need to look closer at that Miata as my seats barely fit into my car from the shoulder restraints. I assume you do not have those on your seats.

The easiest thing to do on the pistons would be get another set of rods .125 longer, but it is not everyday you can find a set of Pankls for $600, so they are remaking the pistons.

Race car? Carpet and cup holders and I am good to go. LOL

[Sieg]

Very nice fab work going on here Payton!

I'll assume the chassis will feel somewhat similar to Shorty's pony, thus being a LOT of fun to drive. :thumbsup:

Big deal.... those are the same seats in my Miata....

Yes, they are exactly the same......only different. :sieg:

[Che70velle]

Thanks for the kind words guys!

Car is turning out way nicer than I had planned. Would have blasted the body before starting the project had I known what it would have turned into. Now I get to prep it by hand.

GW- Need to look closer at that Miata as my seats barely fit into my car from the shoulder restraints. I assume you do not have those on your seats.

The easiest thing to do on the pistons would be get another set of rods .125 longer, but it is not everyday you can find a set of Pankls for $600, so they are remaking the pistons.

Race car? Carpet and cup holders and I am good to go. LOL




http://stores.ebay.com/Tripp-Motorsports-Inc/_i.html?_nkw=Pankl&submit=Search&_sid=40040161

I buy from these guys, and they are straight up.
I see a lot of Pankl rods going for cheap. You buy yours new?

[DFRESH]

Dude, where is the A/C compressor, and why is there steering linkage attached to rear-end of the vehicle? Is this a rear steer setup--so Kramer can drive it like the fire truck?

You are all kinds of awesomeness.

Best streetcar yet.

D

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Very nice fab work going on here Payton!

I'll assume the chassis will feel somewhat similar to Shorty's pony, thus being a LOT of fun to drive. :thumbsup:


Yes, they are exactly the same......only different. :sieg:

yeah, those guys are masters of tin work........so how did they get the tin around the tubing? Most of it looks seamless and super tight fitting.

[Flash68]

I'll assume the chassis will feel somewhat similar to Shorty's pony


You're joking... right? :sieg:

[Sieg]

You're joking... right? :sieg:

No, good geometry is good geometry.
'Somewhat' is relatively vague.......like your completion date.

[Payton King]

Pankls had 3 dyno pulls on them...came from Roush

Vince- He does the tin work first, then cuts a hole and slides the bars through and welds them in. Fab skill at its best!

D- it will have 255 a/c. 2 windows down at 55 mph. If I am brave enough 2155 a/c

[DFRESH]

Pankls had 3 dyno pulls on them...came from Roush

Vince- He does the tin work first, then cuts a hole and slides the bars through and welds them in. Fab skill at its best!

D- it will have 255 a/c. 2 windows down at 55 mph. If I am brave enough 2155 a/c
\

I never knew such a rear setup existed----that is way cool. Happy it's finally coming together bro.

D

[fleetus macmullitz]

You're joking... right? :sieg:

No, good geometry is good geometry.
'Somewhat' is relatively vague.......like your completion date.

#ouch

[Beach Cruiser]

I have 2165 AC in my car, but I have a hard time keeping the triangle vent windows open at the hi settings.
I'll be in Charlotte next month, I wanna come check it out if I have time.

[Beach Cruiser]

I was thinking USCA car.

LOL at that one! I'm having a hard time fitting mine into that class, I have to "find" 260lbs to put in the car from somewhere. turns out the 3200lb min is without the driver, unlike any other classes I've run in. Maybe Leaded Fuel will help?

[Flash68]

#ouch

No ouch. It's just Sieg. He actually loves driving Miatas. And Loti.

#AlwaysConsiderTheSource

:action-smiley-027:

[fleetus macmullitz]

No ouch. It's just Sieg. He actually loves driving Miatas. And Loti.

#AlwaysConsiderTheSource

:action-smiley-027:

The preponderance of :action-smiley-027: in yer posts...so that's why you go by 'Flash'.

:snapout:


lol

[GregWeld]

No ouch. It's just Sieg. He actually loves driving Miatas. And Loti.

#AlwaysConsiderTheSource

:action-smiley-027:




He's the smartest one in the entire bunch... he has much more track time / seat time than about 99% of those on here... and he never buys a tire... or takes a car to the track and back. LOL BRILLIANT!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

He's the smartest one in the entire bunch... he has much more track time / seat time than about 99% of those on here... and he never buys a tire... or takes a car to the track and back. LOL BRILLIANT!!

Yeahbutt do you send him home with some of yer team's shirts?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

He's the smartest one in the entire bunch... he has much more track time / seat time than about 99% of those on here... and he never buys a tire... or takes a car to the track and back. LOL BRILLIANT!!

just don't give him something sharp or put him alone in a room with Alvin's chipmunks.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Vince- He does the tin work first, then cuts a hole and slides the bars through and welds them in. Fab skill at its best!


oh, just checking, cause if they did it after the bars were welded in I was going to run my tig welder over with a Zamboni. :captain1:

[grendel]

Sorry to interrupt all the banter with an actual car comment :lostmarbles: :

Looking really good, man.

It looks like I dodged a bullet to get hit by a grenade. :drowninga:

A question for you... do you know if those upper A-arms are actually built on Corvette geometry? I am trying to clear the shocks installed on my car that rub on the OEM C6/C7 upper control arms... same with a few other grenadier folks.


I think a tube arm will clear the shocks, since the cast arms seem to be much thicker.

[Flash68]

Sorry to interrupt all the banter with an actual car comment :lostmarbles:

You should be sorry.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Sorry to interrupt all the banter with an actual car comment :lostmarbles: :
.

You just made the list buddy. :shakehead:

Y0cF2piwjYQ


lol

[grendel]

You just made the list buddy. :shakehead:

Y0cF2piwjYQ


lol

Ya'think? :peepwall:

[Flash68]

Ya'think? :peepwall:

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

Sorry to interrupt all the banter with an actual car comment :lostmarbles: :

Looking really good, man.

It looks like I dodged a bullet to get hit by a grenade. :drowninga:

A question for you... do you know if those upper A-arms are actually built on Corvette geometry? I am trying to clear the shocks installed on my car that rub on the OEM C6/C7 upper control arms... same with a few other grenadier folks.


I think a tube arm will clear the shocks, since the cast arms seem to be much thicker.

JJ,

The early Wayne Due C5 frame had the same issue. You can correct it with a longer shock or redo the upper shock mount. From my experience it will actually clear at ride height and under compression.

[grendel]

JJ,

The early Wayne Due C5 frame had the same issue. You can correct it with a longer shock or redo the upper shock mount. From my experience it will actually clear at ride height and under compression.

Understood, I don't want to grub up this thread, but rubbing is bad, at any stage. If anything, it removed the coating on the springs, and they rusted. Can't keep the springs loaded all the time.

[fleetus macmullitz]

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:tv_happy:


In more ways than one...

[Payton King]

Sorry, I was out of town and off line.

The upper control arms are made to C5/C6 specs and are a direct replacement. My upper and lowers are 1 inch longer than stock on each side.

[Payton King]

Well it has been a busy summer with the kids out of school.

Went golfing at Beech Mountain in NC. That is the 10th tee box with about a 400 ft drop to the fairway

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Went to Clearwater Beach, Fl for a family vacation

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Camping trip to Pisgah National Forest

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Chelsea and PSG

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and capped it off with the Optima event in Charlotte

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and bought my son a car

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[Payton King]

Time for some updates

Getting steering column in place and driver position

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[Payton King]

Had to move a couple of tubes on the headers for clearance and also rolled the rack back for a better u-joint angle.

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After the steering shaft was final, Jim fabbed up a mount for my pedal box. It is made where I can change the pedals front to rear instead of moving the seat.

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And yes he did mill the mount

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[Payton King]

From there, Jim moved onto getting the exhaust routed. He had to drop the intermediate collectors 2 inches to get them under the car and he still had to do a small mod on the floor. Those headers are off a cup car...Jimmie Johnson's 48 to be exact.

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From underneath

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[Payton King]

More

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[Payton King]

We are trying to keep as much heat away from the driver's side of the car and also keep the exhaust as high up in the car as possible for ground clearance.

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Jim made the transition to oval tubing. Notice that he made a connection between the to oval pipes as a H pipe/balance tube.

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[Payton King]

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[syborg tt]

Okay I am impressed !!

[Sieg]

Okay I am impressed !!

Seriously?

.........it's just another run of the mill street car around here.

With a couple cool Pettigrew & Sutton mods.

:underchair:

[syborg tt]

Seriously?

.........it's just another run of the mill street car around here.

With a couple cool Pettigrew & Sutton mods.

:underchair:

good thing your hiding under that chair

[Flash68]

Pettigrew is the man. And Payton is the man for taking his car to Pettigrew.

So did you par the 400 yard drop off hole? :popcorn2:

[Sieg]

So did you par the 400 yard drop off hole? :popcorn2:
Without or without Mulligans? :popcorn2:

[Ron in SoCal]

Looks awesome Payton! :thumbsup:

[bulldog19]

Looks great Payton! Dave getting any new ideas?

[Flash68]

Looks great Payton! Dave getting any new ideas?

Yep. Some big ones. :happy23:

[WSSix]

Very cool exhaust work. Will the exhaust go over the rear and out the back?

[Beach Cruiser]

a sure bet to win Optima Street car honors next year.

[Payton King]

Thanks Guys!

I did actually par that hole on the second day.

The mufflers will bolt to that flange and exit the passenger side quarter panel. Here are the mock mufflers Jim built and Spintech are making them as I type.

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Got the gas pedal in and finished up the cover on the fire wall

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Cover

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[Payton King]

Oil tank mounting in progress this week

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[bonecrrusher]

Nice updates!

What waterfalls are those? Thats not looking glass falls.

[Payton King]

Looking Glass falls were around the corner. That one was about 400 yards from our camp. There was a smaller sliding rock about 100 yards away too.

[Justin@EntropyRad]

everytime I see it...just more to jaw drop with

[olds87]

Wow. Keep the pictures roll-en.

[Payton King]

Thanks Justin!

Stopped by this morning. Removed 1.5 inches from bottom of tank and relocating the oil drain. Rough mounting complete.

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

watching this one closer now...:goggles:

[intocarss]

What an incredible build!!

[Beach Cruiser]

Payton, sorry I missed you at Optima, was a fun weekend for sure!

[conekiller13]

So after reading all through this, I hate my life, I hate my project....scew you!

Actually his is one of the absolute most cool builds I have ever seen. I think the closest thing I can think of to it is Big Red but this is that to the next level for sure. In fact I would love to see some head to head at the Silver State or something like that when it's done.

Quick question on the Watts link, I've seen systems that mount the pivot on the rear end and then each bar to the chassis and then ones like yours the mount the pivot to the chassis. Can you or someone explain the benefits and liabilities of each?

[Matt@BOS]

Can we change the title from thrift shop to pro shop now??

[GregWeld]

This build reinforces that my next build of a track car will be a tube chassis - start from scratch....

That - or for about 40 grand I could buy a Cup car...


LOL

[Panteracer]

Next car a tube frame car....

I have had several guys tell me once you drive a tube
frame car you will never want to go back.. kinda like driving
a car with Horsepower then trying to go back

Very cool stuff going on with this one

Bob

[intocarss]

This build reinforces that my next build of a track car will be a tube chassis - start from scratch....

That - or for about 40 grand I could buy a Cup car...


LOL NOT QUITE 40K ;)

http://www.racingjunk.com/GT/182533933/Roush-Car-of-Tomorrow.html

http://www.racingjunk.com/GT/2909827/2006-nationwide-chevy-monte-carlo-stock-car.html

[DFRESH]

Wow man--that's serious progress! Love the exhaust and the tin work. Can't wait to hear that motor sing---make sure videos are a planned part of this threads future.

D