This is MY 67 Camaro

[waynieZ]

Thanks Wayne, how's the weather in the NE? Nice to be in Cali now!

...

Storm coming in tomorrow , luckily only rain for us.

That's a big job out of the way, and nicely done! Bravo ! On its wheels soon ?

[ADY]

:thankyou: Keith, a properly bonded part is stronger than a welded part ... the bonded sheet metal will tear before the bond gives whereas the spot weld will give way under tension. I did weld areas recommended as per the instructions.

To be a leader you need to innovate :ohsnap:


Got the tunnel mods done, check that off the list ....

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/Q5Bw5u.jpg


After the adhesive cures I'll finish off the tunnel mods from the bottom, still needs some material trimmed off, left it long on purpose!!!

Thanks for looking ...

I used the same Speedtech tunnel cover and 3M Panel Bonding adhesive (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PEW4MI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) B/c my interior is finished and didn't want to risk any rogue sparks. Sure wish I had the chance to do the work without the T56 installed, made cutting the tunnel extra stressful.

Looks great!

[Sonar Chief]

Very nice job, that turned out very well. :)

:thumbsup: Thanks, it's coming along nicely now!


Storm coming in tomorrow , luckily only rain for us.


That's a big job out of the way, and nicely done! Bravo ! On its wheels soon ?


Thanks Wayne :thumbsup: it was a lot of work but worth the effort!!! Yep gotta get the car off and return the rotisserie!


I used the same Speedtech tunnel cover and 3M Panel Bonding adhesive (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PEW4MI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) B/c my interior is finished and didn't want to risk any rogue sparks. Sure wish I had the chance to do the work without the T56 installed, made cutting the tunnel extra stressful.

Looks great!

:thumbsup: Thanks, I can only imagine operating after the interior is in ... ugg! Hopefully you used self tapping screws to bring the two panels together when you bonded, then you just fill in the screw holes after you take them out and you are done :headspin:

[Mikael A]

looks great :gitrdun: :gitrdun: :gitrdun:

[Sonar Chief]

looks great :gitrdun: :gitrdun: :gitrdun:

Thanks ... :popcorn2:

Car is off the rotisserie and back on jackstands .... progress? Anyway, still need to get the roof and passenger quarter in epoxy, the rest of the floor and the dash top so I have been sanding and getting ready to spray.

I am really liking this gray more and more ... decided to put down some 16 ga over the firewall holes and reinforce the area so that's done.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/ID0vkH.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/0rdc0p.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/YqRDK1.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/HxAkx2.jpg


So that's bonding now I can work on the 9" floater ends and get ready to put under the car .... BUT not until all the epoxy is down and dry.

Thanks for looking ... have a safe night and get home!!!

[GregWeld]

Nicely played!



Keep pounding it buddy! You're really flying now!

[HIFLYR]

That is some beautiful work !!!

[Sonar Chief]

Nicely played!



Keep pounding it buddy! You're really flying now!


Thanks Greg, I like the gray .... maybe engine compartment is getting same color?


That is some beautiful work !!!


Thanks, it's all in the details I think, sometimes I'm :EmoteClueless: but there is always something to do ...


Speaking of getting it ... here is what I did today :confused18: Good enough for body work to start now .... my favorite, NOT!!!



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/Jcdgfc.jpg
This side already has a round of filler, pretty close!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/KILQPm.jpg
This side has no filler yet, she'll buff out!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/HjCyfO.jpg
This tail panel hasn't had color on it since .... well, last time!!!

I'll keep the heat on and let er cure and then get some short strand fiberglass on the roof to quarter panel and wherever else needs it!

Thanks for the compliments and watching my progress ...

[gofastwclass]

Nice progress. That panel bond is awesome stuff. I used it once on the back side of a shaved and painted firewall.

I like that gray for the underside. What colour will the suspension be? I would do black, but it's your car.

[waynieZ]

Keep on keepin on! Some nice progress.

[Sonar Chief]

Nice progress. That panel bond is awesome stuff. I used it once on the back side of a shaved and painted firewall.

I like that gray for the underside. What colour will the suspension be? I would do black, but it's your car.


Thanks, yeah the suspension will be a satin black to match the 9" I already painted!

Keep on keepin on! Some nice progress.

Thanks Wayne, been doing the dirty work now ... getting some body work done!



Making a big mess here ....

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/SGLgK9.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/1NfzUD.jpg


Working on the roof corners is APITA, gotta keep plugging on ....

[tubbed69]

Always looking forward to your updates,you are really showing progress now:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[TheJDMan]

Love this build! I'm diggin the bonded panels. That makes so much sense. I felt guilty for bonding my tunnel cap till I saw your build. Not so guilty now. Keep pluggin away and you will be on the road before you know it. GREAT WORK!!!!

[Mikael A]

Yes those roof corners suck big time...have a hole bunch of time in mine.Keep up the good work its awesome inspiration :thumbsup:

[Spiffav8]

Always looking forward to your updates,you are really showing progress now:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I'll second that. One of the best threads here. Never disappoints!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[im4u2nvss]

One of the best threads here. Never disappoints!

Very true.

[Sonar Chief]

Always looking forward to your updates,you are really showing progress now:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Love this build! I'm diggin the bonded panels. That makes so much sense. I felt guilty for bonding my tunnel cap till I saw your build. Not so guilty now. Keep pluggin away and you will be on the road before you know it. GREAT WORK!!!!

I'll second that. One of the best threads here. Never disappoints!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Very true.


:thankyou: Thanks guys I appreciate the comments it has been a long road but there is light at the end of the tunnel!


A lot of work and not a lot to show .... body work is HARD! Anyway, first round is sanded down to 180 and second coat of lite weight filler is drying now and I'll get everything down to 320 and back in epoxy. That should be good enough for a vinyl wrap!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/Bf58Rd.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/94fYSG.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/SSPsqv.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/zODF6o.jpg



This would be a whole lot easier if I didn't have osteoarthritis in my wrist, after 4 or 5 hours of sanding blocks my wrist is thumping hard!

Thanks for looking ...

[Mikael A]

Vinyl wrap sounds like a good idea might have to do that so I won't be in paint jail for a year.

[glassman]

Coming along nicely Michael!! U convinced me on The wraps, do they have one in "burrito"?

[Sonar Chief]

Vinyl wrap sounds like a good idea might have to do that so I won't be in paint jail for a year.

Coming along nicely Michael!! U convinced me on The wraps, do they have one in "burrito"?


Thanks guys ... Mike come on down on and you can help me wrap this "burrito", I'm gonna order wrap here real soon .... might as well wrap and then assemble!

[glassman]

Thanks guys ... Mike come on down on and you can help me wrap this "burrito", I'm gonna order wrap here real soon .... might as well wrap and then assemble!

I'll come down and help u wrap the "burrito"...i have a lil experience with a heat gun (not a hair dryer for sure). Just be sure to order extra wrap...I've worked with films from glass, so, yeah.:superhack:

[Spiffav8]

That should be good enough for a vinyl wrap!



Wait....after all the crazy detailed work on every inch of this car and you're going to put a wrap on it? :faint:

Buddy :poke: WTH? :underchair:

[Sonar Chief]

Wait....after all the crazy detailed work on every inch of this car and you're going to put a wrap on it? :faint:

Buddy :poke: WTH? :underchair:


All the detailed work is gonna make the wrap look even better!! It's kinda like a pro-patina but just the next step up :thumbsup: I'd love to have an aged lacquer look but that's long gone so this is the next best thing .... wrap it and don't worry about the paint job!

[SlowProgress]

You are kicking butt now! I sat on mine for 6 months. Please post lots of detail on the wrap because I may do that on my car during the shakedown period. I realize the bodywork has to be pretty good even for a wrap.

Scott

[Sonar Chief]

You are kicking butt now! I sat on mine for 6 months. Please post lots of detail on the wrap because I may do that on my car during the shakedown period. I realize the bodywork has to be pretty good even for a wrap.

Scott


Scott, thanks ... she's getting there! Pics to follow of course, been getting the shell as straight as I can before wrapping, waiting on my SPI epoxy to arrive!

When you're back at it keep us in the loop, gotta keep on keeping on ...

Michael

[Sonar Chief]

What to do while waiting for epoxy order? Well pick a task a :gitrdun: .

Got the body work sanded down to 320, I'll see how good it is when I spray black epoxy ... have a feeling there will be more filler work.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/3PQh5o.jpg
First coat of Lizard Skin ...
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/5bZKq0.jpg


So I put the first coat of Lizard Skin on the fenders, I'll let er dry and then stand the fender up and get a different angle for second coat.

Thanks for looking ...

[clill]

What did that lizard skin bucket weigh full and after you are done ?

[Sonar Chief]

What did that lizard skin bucket weigh full and after you are done ?

Charlie, the spec sheet calls 13.71 lbs/gallon, thinking I have three gallons applied to the car now, of course, that is wet weight ... don't know what the dried weight is thou.

Michael

[Sonar Chief]

Been busy with this and that ... waiting on my SPI epoxy I started body working the trunk and the firewall (apita) and I found out the firewall closeout panel I welded on was warped and I couldn't get it straight so I cut it out and did a smaller patch.

The trunk wasn't so bad but my body work still needs refining as can be seen in the SPI black epoxy ...

So here's some pics for those that like visual aids ...


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/8pFivN.jpg
Second time around mo better ...
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/dcZNG9.jpg
Filling the tray here .... doing something different!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/tuwYtm.jpg
Getting some black w the new gun ... very little overspray!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/cij6mu.jpg
That'll do pig!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/S3qEK5.jpg
In between coats just cap the cup and clean the nozzle ... pretty cool!


And I started on the hood mods, found out I needed flexible urethane foam between the skin and the supports to replicate AMD's work so I got that today and then my 3M Accuspray gun came in and I just had to spray ... what I time saver in cleanup and the pps cups are just cool.

Thanks for looking ...

[Mikael A]

That looks great:drool: I might have to try that gun out.

[jarhead]

Nice work Chief, you are Kicking A.. and taking names!

[bretcopsey]

So here's some pics for those that like visual aids ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/dcZNG9.jpg
Filling the tray here .... doing something different!



And I started on the hood mods, found out I needed flexible urethane foam between the skin and the supports to replicate AMD's work so I got that today and then my 3M Accuspray gun came in and I just had to spray ... what I time saver in cleanup and the pps cups are just cool.

Thanks for looking ...

I'm curious what the mods to the hood will be? Did I miss elsewhere in the thread?

[Sonar Chief]

That looks great:drool: I might have to try that gun out.


Thanks, once you get used to the gun it shoots nice and easy clean up, that's a +++.

Nice work Chief, you are Kicking A.. and taking names!

Thanks, I'm trying but sometimes my OCD kicks in and I have created more work for myself, lol!!


I'm curious what the mods to the hood will be? Did I miss elsewhere in the thread?

Well I thought I would be further along with the hood by now but after you spray a black epoxy the poor body work comes out in the shine and you have to keep going to get a flat reflection ....

OCD kicking in ... the black epoxy doesn't lie when it comes to a reflection, so more sanding and epoxy!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/SRRRVU.jpg
I think I got it this time!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/Fvowng.jpg
The firewall is APITA to get straight ... mulligan!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/qyzSBf.jpg
Got some bling in too!


Hopefully this is the last time ... paint tomorrow?


Thanks for looking ...

[Sonar Chief]

Early morning paint, check that off the list ... now it's time to cure before I can start making another mess, lol!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/6dfcem.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/LhHYmi.jpg

Man, I can appreciate those REAL body guys and gals that can get a black car straight ... I think this will do for me!

Thanks for looking ...

[Spiffav8]

Man, I can appreciate those REAL body guys and gals that can get a black car straight ... I think this will do for me!



I have learned a great deal watching Jim do the work on my car. Seeing it in person really helped me appreciate the talent in all those hours of work.

Car is looking great. Always enjoy your thread!

:captain:

[Sonar Chief]

I have learned a great deal watching Jim do the work on my car. Seeing it in person really helped me appreciate the talent in all those hours of work.

Car is looking great. Always enjoy your thread!

:captain:

Hey thanks, this bodywork is difficult, I redid the trunk 3 times and now the hood 3 times because in black epoxy it shows all the defects of my attempted body work, hopefully, it'll be the last go round!

Not much happened today, I got brushable seam sealer on the cowl and the side tulip panels ... waiting for it to cure and should spray color tomorrow. While that was drying I worked on my hood vent locations before I cut the hood.

And I used a clay bar on the truck cuz all this crap in the air, it's gonna be 67 here tomorrow, nice!

Thanks for looking ...

[waynieZ]

I could paint a car white and still there would be waves, accept I'm so bad they are white caps! Nice work Chief.

[Sonar Chief]

I could paint a car white and still there would be waves, accept I'm so bad they are white caps! Nice work Chief.

Wayne that's too funny :waveflag: :thankyou:

[Mikael A]

you guys crack me up...nice work on firewall Chief.

[Sonar Chief]

you guys crack me up...nice work on firewall Chief.

Thanks Mikael, it's been apita but rewarding knowing it's done correctly!!



Well they say it's all in the details ... considered this detailed!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/4UkD5p.jpg
Side cowl panels are ready for bonding!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/iYwIgj.jpg
This area will NEVER rust again!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/vLgMKn.jpg
And yes I had a run on the inside ... just like the factory, lol!

Now to let this cure and then bond the side cowl panels and then finish up the body and spray some black, that should be all the gray!

Thanks for looking ...

[Sonar Chief]

Been a long day ... I hung the Ride tech cradle that I sprayed yesterday and finished the Millerbuilt axle installation and got the rear end hung today! Takes time when everything is painted and you are by yourself ...:confused59:

Well take a look ...


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/byvrg6.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/rTMyz4.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/NJrvov.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/uPnkbS.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/kdwR7e.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/DGYKHS.jpg



I'll finish hanging the shocks and get the brakes mounted and test fit the front wheel ... hopefully the bs will be the same for the rear, we'll see!


Thanks for looking ...

[Build-It-Break-it]

Amazing work. It's funny cuz I've watched your build for awhile now and I'm excited for you. I'm sure most people on here are to. Keep at it, your not far away!!

[paulk68]

Amazing work. It's funny cuz I've watched your build for awhile now and I'm excited for you. I'm sure most people on here are to. Keep at it, your not far away!!

completely agree such an awesome build to follow!! I can not wait to see what he does with the wrap!!

[Panteracer]

Looks very clean... thank you for posting up
I am thinking of doing the Ridetech system vs a
torque arm and this helps me see the clearances etc
I have my 3" exhaust running under my rear end and
with this system I would not have to modify anything

Keep at it

You still in California?? having a superbowl party at
my shop in Campbell, Ca.. Pantera guys but still car guys
you and any lateral g guys/gals are welcome to come on down
442 industrial, Campbell, Ca noon till ???


Bob

[Zoomin]

I see you are running a Ford rear along with the RT 4 link set up. Just thought I'd pass along some info about a minor issue I ran into - the lower brackets on my rear end were off 1/2 outboard on each side. Sight along the lower trailing arm and see if it looks like it's running parallel.

This difference caused the lower coil-over eye mount to come in contact with the wheel rim.

You probably don't have that issue, but it may come in handy for some to check before getting too far along.

[waynieZ]

It looks good in there.

[preston]

the lower brackets on my rear end were off 1/2 outboard on each side.

That may be the correct location, its not uncommon to have the rear end pickup points slightly wider than the frame pickups on the lower arms.

Takes time when everything is painted and you are by yourself

Tell me about it, I've spent the last 20 years building my car all by myself in a carport no less ! I'm always fascinated by those tv shows where multiple people are working on a car, much less helping each other.

Swinging in the engine, mounting doors, taking hoods on and off, not easy as a one man show. My wife/kids start complaining after even just 30 seconds of oscillating the steering wheel or pumping the brake pedal for me.

[Sonar Chief]

Amazing work. It's funny cuz I've watched your build for awhile now and I'm excited for you. I'm sure most people on here are to. Keep at it, your not far away!!


Thanks, getting closer!

completely agree such an awesome build to follow!! I can not wait to see what he does with the wrap!!

Thanks, never done a wrap before, steep learning curve!

Looks very clean... thank you for posting up
I am thinking of doing the Ridetech system vs a
torque arm and this helps me see the clearances etc
I have my 3" exhaust running under my rear end and
with this system I would not have to modify anything

Keep at it

You still in California?? having a superbowl party at
my shop in Campbell, Ca.. Pantera guys but still car guys
you and any lateral g guys/gals are welcome to come on down
442 industrial, Campbell, Ca noon till ???


Bob

I'm still here til end of March, thanks for the invite just not into the Super Bowl!

I see you are running a Ford rear along with the RT 4 link set up. Just thought I'd pass along some info about a minor issue I ran into - the lower brackets on my rear end were off 1/2 outboard on each side. Sight along the lower trailing arm and see if it looks like it's running parallel.

This difference caused the lower coil-over eye mount to come in contact with the wheel rim.

You probably don't have that issue, but it may come in handy for some to check before getting too far along.

I put the brackets on so all should be square, hopefully!

It looks good in there.

Thanks Wayne, think it has a nice contrast under there!

That may be the correct location, its not uncommon to have the rear end pickup points slightly wider than the frame pickups on the lower arms.



Tell me about it, I've spent the last 20 years building my car all by myself in a carport no less ! I'm always fascinated by those tv shows where multiple people are working on a car, much less helping each other.

Swinging in the engine, mounting doors, taking hoods on and off, not easy as a one man show. My wife/kids start complaining after even just 30 seconds of oscillating the steering wheel or pumping the brake pedal for me.

Yeah it's slower when everything is painted :thumbsup: One man show here too!



Bad news first ... won't be able to use the same wheel size in the rear, good news is I know what will work!!!

First, there is a difference of 3/16" stickout in width between passenger side and driver's side, what ?? ... measured everything again and all is square with the mounts and rear seems the passenger side quarter panel is 3/16" narrower than the driver's side (based on rear frame rails).... go figure.

Update ... it's not as bad as I stated, it's only 3mm or 3/32" difference between sides, still gonna need more bs than these fronts!
/
Second, I have plenty of clearance on the inside, 2" to top of tub and 1" to lower shock mount, so I just ordered a larger bs for the rear rims, no biggy! I would rather have plenty of clearance to the wheel lip than just enough!


For those that need visuals ...


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/kOi8EK.jpg
Passenger side way too close to lip!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/UXQrh4.jpg
Plenty of clearance here ... so more BS!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/icgkte.jpg
1/2" to rubber!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/Dzbwl0.jpg
Almost 3/4" to rubber!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/ib6KDd.jpg
Those wheels just look cool!


I put the driver's side through compression and it would clear w a lip trim but the passenger side was a no go ... so I'll trim the lip some and have a different bs rims on the back, no biggy! Glad I did it this way instead of ASSUMING !



Thanks for looking ...

[waynieZ]

It looks good in there. It fits nice and tight to the frame rails.

[Sonar Chief]

It looks good in there. It fits nice and tight to the frame rails.

Thanks Wayne, I have plenty of room to move inboard!

My OCD got the better of me and I remeasured both sides it's only 3mm or 3/32" difference!

Michael

[DBasher]

You're making a lot of people look bad with the amount of progress you're posting...Keep it up!

:cheers: :flag2:

[waynieZ]

Thanks Wayne, I have plenty of room to move inboard!

My OCD got the better of me and I remeasured both sides it's only 3mm or 3/32" difference!

Michael

I had typed that post then my wife dragged me away when I got back I hit post and you had posted the picture with the wheels on the car. Lol
Your air bar fits a lot tighter than mine does to the frame rails. Something else for me to figure out.
But your car is coming together nice. Keep up the great progress.

[Mikael A]

I don't know if its just me, but sometimes i can't go to the last page of this thread so for example right now if i go to page 130 or 131 it takes me back to page 129.:computer:

[Sonar Chief]

Hmm ... I can always go to last page, maybe a mod will chime in, sorry I can't help!

Michael

[Spiffav8]

I don't know if its just me, but sometimes i can't go to the last page of this thread so for example right now if i go to page 130 or 131 it takes me back to page 129.:computer:

This is a known issue and only applies to a few of our members. This happens simply because you move slower though time than the rest of the world. If further proof is required, look no further than your closet. Cords, eight track tapes and VCRs are no longer in style, considered modern or even vintage for that matter.

:snapout:


Honestly this is the first I've heard of that. Is it just in this thread or in all of them?

[Mikael A]

This is a known issue and only applies to a few of our members. This happens simply because you move slower though time than the rest of the world. If further proof is required, look no further than your closet. Cords, eight track tapes and VCRs are no longer in style, considered modern or even vintage for that matter.

:snapout:


Honestly this is the first I've heard of that. Is it just in this thread or in all of them?

Haha :D just in this thread,i can get to this page if i click on last post but i still can't get to page 130

[Sonar Chief]

You're making a lot of people look bad with the amount of progress you're posting...Keep it up!

:cheers: :flag2:

Keep on:thumbsup: keeping on .... don't mean no harm!


I had typed that post then my wife dragged me away when I got back I hit post and you had posted the picture with the wheels on the car. Lol
Your air bar fits a lot tighter than mine does to the frame rails. Something else for me to figure out.
But your car is coming together nice. Keep up the great progress.

Thanks Wayne, figured timing was off!

This happens simply because you move slower though time than the rest of the world.

That's too funny, might have some truth in though!



Well, you know what happens when you ASSUME ... yeah you end up pulling the whole rear end out from under the car to install the third member, grrrr. Seems the studs on the housing and the holes on the center section didn't line up and after 2hrs and lots of colorful words I had to pull it out and use the LFH to align the studs w the holes! Used gravity to install the 80+ lb center section and then more colorful words and some redneckery she's back under the car and I am going to see the chiropractor tomorrow, lol!

Take a look ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/P6FsON.jpg
Did some bonding too both side cowls are installed now!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/D7wZbk.jpg
Not a good start to the day, should have tested this before ....
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/qLqspK.jpg
That's mo better!

Done for the day, thanks for looking ...

[Mikael A]

Looks great to me even if I'm a little slow haha.

[gofastwclass]

...and after 2hrs and lots of colorful words I had to pull it out and use the LFH to align the studs w the holes! Used gravity to install the 80+ lb center section and then more colorful words and some redneckery she's back under the car and I am going to see the chiropractor tomorrow, lol!



Redneckery translation: using any creative method available to get things accomplished while working alone. Hahaha!

[Spiffav8]

Looks great to me even if I'm a little slow haha.


Bro....that was like three days ago. :confused59:

[Beach Cruiser]

Looking good! I'm a master Redneckery tech! I've spent more time rigging up stuff than building!

[Mikael A]

Bro....that was like three days ago. :confused59:

:lmao: well that explains a lot...hope there is nothing new on page 132 be a few days until i get there.

[Sonar Chief]

Redneckery translation: using any creative method available to get things accomplished while working alone. Hahaha!


I like your definition I would add "Safely" though!


Looking good! I'm a master Redneckery tech! I've spent more time rigging up stuff than building!


I hear ya!



Been doing a little of this and that ... after the rear was installed I test fitted the brakes with Jay Miller's hybrid floater kit and wanted to run calipers in the front and Jay suggested I could swap sides and that should work ... yep! Got some epoxy and paint on the hubs while I had them out, I have to do the fronts still, I hate to see rust start here!

Been raining for so long [again] but Sat was nice so I went over to Marina for the American AutoX series opener with Art, he brought his SS/RS and got 4 runs in. Mary was there with her Camaro, man she is fast and smooth!!!

So got the hood as straight as I could, OCD is a b***ch and the vents have a home now! You won't see the defects under a wrap anyhow!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/S8BbU7.jpg
Detailing the hubs!
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Art's Camaro looking good!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/V5P11m.jpg
Everyone knows this rocket ...
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/2RuIi0.jpg
Pretty sure there is some negative camber in those rear tires!!!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/uw2T2p.jpg
I'm calling this good enough!
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Passenger side ... gonna look like this!

The brake thing was bugging me cuz I know it's been done on all Mark's cars, granted he makes his own floater adapter, but I stared at pics of Mayhem and noticed the difference and off I went!!

Anyway, weather is good for now so I'm gonna finish some painting stuff and hopefully get the subframe under the car real soon!

Thanks for looking ...

[Sonar Chief]

Happy Valentine's Day ... hope you spent some time with your sweetheart as I did! Been a long day taping and cleaning, and I'm so tired of masking of this Camaro and spraying epoxy, last round before wrapping!

Take a look ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/n6myzu.jpg

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/3WDOcd.jpg


Thanks for looking ...

[syborg tt]

Looks so cool !!!

[JohnJ@RideTech]

Finished the bracket mock up on the 9" and then did a little of this and that, you know the stuff you have been putting off for awhile .... sprayed some epoxy and cut and re-weld the rear quarter corner that didn't fit follow the OEM tail panel!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/EZt5Jn.jpg

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I am waiting on my sway bar axle brackets from RT, seems I misplaced the originals,huh? And my rear axle alignment tools should be here soon so I can get the brackets welded in place for good.

Not much of an update but it's progress .... thanks for looking!

Looks great man! I like your choice of suspension!

[Sonar Chief]

Looks so cool !!!

Thanks! I was out of SPI epoxy so I bought local PPG brand ... should have used a reducer cuz I had some dry spots where it didn't blend too well, oh well!

Looks great man! I like your choice of suspension!

Thanks John!


Thought I'd share some pics of my rotor wash ... with zinc phosphate. I used POR15's Marine Clean first and then their Metal Prep with water rinse in between, and then a light scuff with a red scotch brite!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/1qJFUJ.jpg
A good scrubbing with Marine Clean!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/gkOwvH.jpg
Submerged in Metal Prep and working ...
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/j8Sf7H.jpg
Comes out kinda dark after the rinse ...
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/uFgUaT.jpg
light scuff w scotch bright pad all better!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/PdqW5J.jpg
These vanes where filthy and were sure to rust ... not no more!

Figured I'd better get this done now before I bolt it together and then they start to rust, thanks for looking ....

[WSSix]

So the POR15 metal prep leaves a zinc coating on the rotors that won't rust or resists rust?

Coming along great with the car.

[Sonar Chief]

So the POR15 metal prep leaves a zinc coating on the rotors that won't rust or resists rust?

Coming along great with the car.


Thanks, yes the POR15 Metal Prep leaves a zinc phosphate coating on the rotor. I've used it for bolts before with great results so why not the rotors? Let them sit in the tub for 25 minutes to get the results I had ... no rusty rotors for this girl!

Michael

[Sonar Chief]

Flashback Friday ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/IKZQbS.jpg
I hate rust!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/dXLG35.jpg
Second side always comes out better!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/DfhVNk.jpg
Looks like a drunk did this one ... the trunk was sacrificial first!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/iM6u4o.jpg
Didn't quite make it to the end there!


Messing with self-leveling seam sealer on the drip rails and trunk ... lessons learned 1. FILL the void and the stuff will level bank to bank and 2. 10 minutes drying time is short and stop messing with it before you make it worse, lol.

So I'll have to sand some and re-apply to fill voids, and the driver's side A-pillar didn't flow all the way to the end ... passenger side DID, too much in the channel so I cut it with a razor and will conform with sand paper.

That's all for today, thanks for looking ...

[Mikael A]

Keep up the good work Chief....seam sealer sucks big time never had any luck with it.

[Sonar Chief]

Keep up the good work Chief....seam sealer sucks big time never had any luck with it.

Mikael, thanks ... the self-leveling seam sealer is really cool and flows out nice if you fill the channel side to side evenly, evidentially it's is smarter than me!! I get 'er in the whoops!!


I really don't like hanging doors and such ... finished some small stuff on the door (opened up the drain holes and welded the channel width) Gaps will need some work still and wrestled one in place! The AMD trunk fit like crap and needed persuasion and lots of bending at the corners to fit worth a crap :bang: Still needs some lov'in but it's good enough for now!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/KvFcXw.jpg
Not my favorite task ... oh well!
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That's a good sign when there is a lock installed!
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Still too high in the middle ...:bang:
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Looking like a car again!

Lessons learned ... don't body work the trunk until you have fitted it to the body, grrrr!

Still need to get the other door finished and bolted on, thanks for looking ...

[Roberts68]

Chief, I have not commented in awhile... but WOW!

This is the only thread I still follow. I still get updates on some of the others but yours is without a doubt the most inspiring! Keep up the great work!

[Mikael A]

I feel your pain chief I'm right where you are for the last year and its so much work......looks great btw.

[glassman]

Get er done!!! How long u got before Colorado?

[Spiffav8]

Looking good Chief!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Sonar Chief]

Chief, I have not commented in awhile... but WOW!

This is the only thread I still follow. I still get updates on some of the others but yours is without a doubt the most inspiring! Keep up the great work!


Thanks buddy, she's almost ready to travel again!

I feel your pain chief I'm right where you are for the last year and its so much work......looks great btw.

Thanks Mikael ... it is a lot of work!

Get er done!!! How long u got before Colorado?

Mike, I'm heading out there today for a professional conference in Grand Junction and visit w family I'll be back in a week. I'm outa here the end of March, gonna have Reliable come get the Camaro and my buddy will help me drive the rest of my crap to Colorado.



Looking good Chief!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks a lot, she's almost ready for transporting, gotta put the front end on when I get back from this trip.

Michael

[DT69Cam]

Mikael, thanks ... the self-leveling seam sealer is really cool and flows out nice if you fill the channel side to side evenly, evidentially it's is smarter than me!! I get 'er in the whoops!!


I really don't like hanging doors and such ... finished some small stuff on the door (opened up the drain holes and welded the channel width) Gaps will need some work still and wrestled one in place! The AMD trunk fit like crap and needed persuasion and lots of bending at the corners to fit worth a crap :bang: Still needs some lov'in but it's good enough for now!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/KvFcXw.jpg
Not my favorite task ... oh well!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/0HaQzx.jpg
That's a good sign when there is a lock installed!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/5V3SC8.jpg
Still too high in the middle ...:bang:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/YCnRqa.jpg
Looking like a car again!

Lessons learned ... don't body work the trunk until you have fitted it to the body, grrrr!

Still need to get the other door finished and bolted on, thanks for looking ...

There's a guy over on Team Camaro that's having a hell of a time with his trunk as well. USA made 1/4's too. Trunk sits too low in the corners (hinge side) both the drivers and pass side.

[jarhead]

WOW, the flashback picture says it all, you are moving along!

[waynieZ]

It's coming together, you'll have it ready for the trip to the white wilderness! lol Enjoy your time with the family.

[Sonar Chief]

WOW, the flashback picture says it all, you are moving along!

I know, can't believe the rust bucket I started with ... mo better now!


It's coming together, you'll have it ready for the trip to the white wilderness! lol Enjoy your time with the family.

Thanks Wayne, I'm trying to get er ready for transport .... see below!!



A little of this and that ... got the passenger side hub painted and both rotors coated in zinc. Figured I might as well jump in both feet first so I did the lower valence, came out ok, take a look ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/z0iPNW.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/9phkjl.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/H6TYw5.jpg

I will finish the driver's side tomorrow and do some more wrapping, not sure I'm ready for a quarter panel yet but what the hey ... it's gotta be done!

Thanks for looking ...

[Spiffav8]

I know, can't believe the rust bucket I started with ... mo better now!




Thanks Wayne, I'm trying to get er ready for transport .... see below!!



A little of this and that ... got the passenger side hub painted and both rotors coated in zinc. Figured I might as well jump in both feet first so I did the lower valence, came out ok, take a look ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/z0iPNW.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/9phkjl.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/H6TYw5.jpg

I will finish the driver's side tomorrow and do some more wrapping, not sure I'm ready for a quarter panel yet but what the hey ... it's gotta be done!

Thanks for looking ...

That looks pretty darn good to me. :confused59:

[GregWeld]

Looking better and better buddy!

[Sonar Chief]

Thanks guys, the vinyl wrap is not as easy to apply as You-tube posts but definitely doable if you take your time, the junction of different planes is what messes me up ... oh well some wrinkles you can't see when it's bolted to the car!!!


I finished bolting everything on the sub .... torqued and ready for install! I bought some Caswell black oxide finish for all my hardware so all is black and won't rust! Just did the sub to body bolts so tomorrow I'll get the sub frame under the car!

Oh yeah, my OCD kicked in again on the hood ... last time I told myself! Just epoxy and wrap it ...


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Thanks for looking ...

[Steve68]

Nice torque stripping you have there,

Where did you get the Caswell black oxide coating I want to get some,

[Sandro's 1969 502 Camaro]

Wow, Nice attention to detail, great build!

[rickpaw]

Nice torque stripping you have there,

Where did you get the Caswell black oxide coating I want to get some,

https://www.amazon.com/Caswell-BOGK-Black-Oxide-Gel/dp/B00AKG93O8

I may have to try it out when i redo my car.

[glassman]

Nice job bud!!! U brave wrapping that your self. It's "just" a sticker right? Hahaha

[Sonar Chief]

Nice torque stripping you have there,

Where did you get the Caswell black oxide coating I want to get some,


Thanks Steve, I ordered the black oxide directly from Caswell, I didn't get the clear coat thou ... used WD-40!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/nshTuC.jpg

[Sonar Chief]

Working on the rear brakes ... hoping my wheels will come in soon so I can get a tire mounted and have a roller!

Had to modify/ clearance the Ford bearing end flange to get the brakes in the front AND pull cables in front, but it came out great ... all torqued and ready for wheels!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/lcrpAA.jpg
Need to align with rear suspension pick up points ... but it getting there!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/AG3SA5.jpg
Passenger side all set!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/QefVMD.jpg
Had to break out the Makita high speed and clearance the flange for the bolt!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/OTjqfu.jpg
Ready for tires now ....


Thanks for looking ...

[Sonar Chief]

Nice job bud!!! U brave wrapping that your self. It's "just" a sticker right? Hahaha

Thanks Mike, yeah ... it's just a sticker, a really big sticky one that gets wrinkled fairly easily, no Biggy!!!! :thumbsup:

[Sonar Chief]

Wow, Nice attention to detail, great build!


Thanks :thumbsup: it's a labor of love and .... not wanting to do this again!!!

Michael

[SlowProgress]

Michael it just keeps getting better. I am looking forward to seeing it move under power. BTW, I went back to page one again and remembered all the rusty bits. You sure have come a long way and always a constant motivator as you go!

Scott

[Sonar Chief]

Michael it just keeps getting better. I am looking forward to seeing it move under power. BTW, I went back to page one again and remembered all the rusty bits. You sure have come a long way and always a constant motivator as you go!

Scott

Thanks Scott, I want to see this under it's own power too :lol: Here's another one for you ...

Flash back Friday ... remembered when I pulled off the roof and found mouse houses in the front bow, man did that stink, yuck!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/HuHBi7.jpg


Shifted gears ... trying to get the steering column in and matched with the rack, not going so good. Seems the Retro-fit 67 Camaro Ididit column is TOO long, needs to be around 29" vs 31.5", and Ididit columns only come in 28" and 30". Messed with the position and came up with a good compromise ...
probably could use the 30" gonna have to check!!!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/tv26cB.jpg
Bolted in the stock position shifted all the way back ... 4" into engine compartment!
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Shifted back into cab about 2.70" ... mo better!
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OCD kicked in , last coat of epoxy I promise ...

[Mikael A]

That OCD is a killer:snapout: looks great like always :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[glassman]

I agree on the OCD. It's like an investment, it'll pay dividends in the end!! CheeRS bud.....

[SlowProgress]

Thanks Scott, I want to see this under it's own power too :lol: Here's another one for you ...

Flash back Friday ... remembered when I pulled off the roof and found mouse houses in the front bow, man did that stink, yuck!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/HuHBi7.jpg


I could never figure out why all rear stuffing was coming out of my rear seat. When I was pulling it down for sand-blasting I found all the missing stuffing in that same area with the familiar mouse house smell. That must have been a convenient and comfortable place for the average mouse to get into -funny!

Scott

[Sonar Chief]

That OCD is a killer:snapout: looks great like always :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks Mikael ... sometimes I wish there were a cure for OCD cuz I'd probably have my car up and running by now :confused59:

[Sonar Chief]

I agree on the OCD. It's like an investment, it'll pay dividends in the end!! CheeRS bud.....

Thanks Mike ... I see your car is coming along quite nicely, looks like a paint job got carried away ... scope creep!

Michael

[Sonar Chief]

I could never figure out why all rear stuffing was coming out of my rear seat. When I was pulling it down for sand-blasting I found all the missing stuffing in that same area with the familiar mouse house smell. That must have been a convenient and comfortable place for the average mouse to get into -funny!

Scott


Location, location, location ... right?

Well what do you do after the photo shoot? You move indoors and do something clean that doesn't attract dust into your newly painted radiator support!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/SdXEBn.jpg

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Wish me luck ...

[waynieZ]

Hell Yeah!

[Sonar Chief]

Hell Yeah!


Thanks for the encouragement ...but it didn't work out like I'd hope :waveflag:



One step forward and two steps backward ... that's how this week has been going. First, the steering column was too long, then the radiator support bolts didn't fit the subframe, and then the gas tank strap rubber u-channel was too narrow.

So I did a little this and that and made some progress. I finished installing the 31 spline Strange axles, which went as engineered, finally, and then installed Millerbuilt end caps ... and filled with gear oil.

Fearing the worst I installed the gas tank and radiator with no surprises.

Oh, the wrap didn't work out as planned mainly cuz of my technique and lack of experience. I sure could have used a second pair of hands too. Lessons learned, don't stretch the vinyl too much cuz it makes wrinkles that are apita to get back out. Had I known the technique of the proper squeegee angle of the dangle I probably could have saved it ... another time I guess. Oh, and if you wet the felt squeegee you won't scratch the vinyl, duh! :twak:

So I sacrificed a piece of black vinyl no biggy, I'll have my nephew help me next time, he can hold the vinyl off the panel until I work it down without wrinkles. Didn't take any pics, sorry.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/Ee1IjH.jpg
Duh that won't work ... used a 5/16 bolt to attach for now! Frame is too wide!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/mhTfbM.jpg
Pulled the column into the cab the distance of the mounting pads, roughly 2 5/8", the bottom bolts are now top bolts!
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That'll work just fine :hello:
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That's beefy axle fer sure!
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Installed as engineered!
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Little Loctite on set screws and thread sealant on the cap and it's all set!
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That's a cool feature of this Motul gear oil
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Gas tank in ....
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At least something went right!
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Radiator installed w/o a hitch!


So I've been on the phone with Blake and he will pay for shortening the column from the Retro Fit 31.5" down to the 29" where she's at now, that's service, thanks, Blake! The car does steer now! The frame horns being too wide caught Blake off guard, never heard of that happening. Solution ... take some material off the inside slot to get the designed bolts to fit!

Well, that's my week so far, I'll get the front end on this week and hopefully, my rear rims will be in soon so I can get this rolled onto the transport.

Thanks for looking ...

[RdHuggr68]

I like thr radiator, I haven't pulled mine out of the box since UPS dropped it off. Can't wait to see the 67 in person! :excited:

[MillerBuilt]

Well done Chief, very detailed and looks amazing!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Ok, that hood came out better than I thought!!

[Sonar Chief]

I like thr radiator, I haven't pulled mine out of the box since UPS dropped it off. Can't wait to see the 67 in person! :excited:

Kevin, she's heading your way here real soon ... and thanks, buddy!

[Sonar Chief]

Well done Chief, very detailed and looks amazing!

Thanks Jay for the compliment and working with a nube like me ...

Michael

[Sonar Chief]

Ok, that hood came out better than I thought!!

Thanks Vince, it was a vision and now it's reality ... black wrap will put this hood over the top! Hopefully ...


Persistance ... another word for not giving up! Or I could be a little stubborn ... had to try the wrap again with my new found knowledge, take a look ....

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/qzieeK.jpg
BIG tip ... don't take the wrap off the paper until you need it and NO HEAT until you are ready to set the adhesive!!!
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Complex curves cause these wrinkles ... just have to work each one out one at a time!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/g9wQdX.jpg
Working with the lip and reading the wrinkles and applying pressure to relieve the tension ... fingers worked best!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/ZW8yRi.jpg
Didn't get them all out but still learning ...


I have to keep on keeping on and get the other side done ...

[DT69Cam]

Wow, your on your way now !!! Looks great! I love that radiator too. Which brand is it, I couldn't find it in the thread. Thx!

[Sonar Chief]

Wow, your on your way now !!! Looks great! I love that radiator too. Which brand is it, I couldn't find it in the thread. Thx!

Hey thanks a lot! The radiator is an Entropy LS conversion.


Good garage day ... did some body work on the extension and the header, I'll put some epoxy on these tomorrow, the wrap definitely shows the imperfections just as paint does ...

More experience w the vinyl on the wiper valance, this one was tough, had one Mulligan but overall came out great, take a look ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/I6xiZJ.jpg
Still have to cut the slots out ... this is one tough part to wrap cuz of the vents mainly.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/25hwUF.jpg
Coat of epoxy and wrap them just like Christmas!


I'm gonna make some waffles now, thanks for looking ....

[waynieZ]

I have trouble putting tape on Christmas presents straight, your doing a nice job . Keep at it!

[Mikael A]

Rock on Chief :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Sonar Chief]

I have trouble putting tape on Christmas presents straight, your doing a nice job . Keep at it!

Thanks Wayne, this wrap thing is pretty cool once you learn how to read the tension of the wrap .... more to come!


Rock on Chief :dance: :dance: :dance:


Thanks Mikael, I'm trying ...



The obligatory photo shoot ... after I finished the body work on the front valance and extension I noticed I'd sanded through the primer on the driver's fender ... so it got primer also.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/6Y1iem.jpg
Thinking I'm getting better at body working these parts ... finally!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/XA3eQb.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/s7fHQz.jpg
Mo better ... shiny!


So once these are dry I'll wrap them and get the front sheet metal installed :D . Getting closer, thanks for looking ...

[Sonar Chief]

Hey looking like a Camaro again ... finished wrapping the valence and extension and bolted the parts to the car, still need to gap the front but that's another day :thumbsup:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/J6u5cF.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/klHThR.jpg

[Steve68]

looks good, thanks for answering my PM, no worries,

[Sonar Chief]

looks good, thanks for answering my PM, no worries,

Your are welcome Steve!


Thought I'd post up a FYI ... for those that have removed all those GM push pins/tabs from the surround trim from the back and upper front windscreen. Well, they don't go back in ... so after multiple trips to Fastenal, I found these that will hold the trim in place. They push in and then you screw the post in so if you need to remove them you can.

Take a look ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/ylTCM8.jpg
Oh yeah, these won't RUST!!!
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Original GM pins ... won't go back in as designed.
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Well, just waiting on my rear rims to show up today and she's all ready for the trip back to Colorado, I'll be absent for awhile ...

[waynieZ]

Good to hear you'll be ready for your trip.
I was going to check with my body guys supplier on those clips, I wasn't sure they made them anymore.
Be safe.

[Sonar Chief]

Good to hear you'll be ready for your trip.
I was going to check with my body guys supplier on those clips, I wasn't sure they made them anymore.
Be safe.


The General must have had a tool or something for the metal clips ... I couldn't get the sides crimped and then push them in at the same time, so these plastic ones will do. Afterall, it's just for the headliner tension.


Well she's ready for the transport .... big thanks to Vince for getting my rims in just in time. The backspacing came out perfect and I won't have to trim the lip, cool!


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I did run into one problem ... she wouldn't roll, the passenger side parking brake was too tight against the drum. I adjusted the stop plate in as far as she'd go but still too tight so I took out the brake assembly for now, I'll worry about that later.

She's heading to Colorado tomorrow, and then I have to clean the garage, thanks for looking ...

[glassman]

back to colorado then finish 'er up!!!

I'd recommend lowering the front......jk:BlahBlah:

[Sonar Chief]

back to colorado then finish 'er up!!!

I'd recommend lowering the front......jk:BlahBlah:

Yeah, that's the plan anyhow! An LS will lower that front a little ...


Flashback Friday ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/HybjVa.jpg
Still looking pretty cool ... last March fresh off the trailer!

[Sonar Chief]

She's in good company ... on her way to Colorado.



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[Mikael A]

Yes she definitely is.

[Sonar Chief]

Yes she definitely is.

I'd say so, a 73 Ferrari Daytona and a fully restored Chevy Cheyenne 4x4 w oak bed, which sounded great by the way ... the 20" Grabbers were a bit much, but the resto was done with detail!

[clill]

Who did you use ?

[Sonar Chief]

Who did you use ?

Enclosed Vehicle Transport contracted DBAC, INC. out of Pine Bluffs WY.

I feel very good about the transport company, the driver and equipment were top notch, my Camaro is in good hands. I wouldn't let just anyone take my Camaro ... and I would have cancelled the contract if I didn't think this so!

The 73 Ferrari Daytona was sweeet ... yes, I touched it!

[glassman]

I didn't make the show today either. I did yesterday though, on a whim, I went midday on the invite of a friend.

Good luck with the move. Hope to c u in Colo

[waynieZ]

Chief, how long for it to make the trip? Nice clean equipment.

[syborg tt]

So who is going to be doing the paint in Colorado ?

[glassman]

So who is going to be doing the paint in Colorado ?

Wrap, the wrapper.

[syborg tt]

Wow I didn't realize your wrapping the car.

That is so cool

[Sonar Chief]

It's been some time since I updated this thread ... relocated to Denver first of April and started job searching, meanwhile the Camaro is safe and sound at Kevin's shop waiting on me to get back on track. So I have been helping out Kevin with his 68 Camaro build and had some time to work on my Camaro a little today ... had previously pulled the parking brake shoe off the passenger side cuz it was so tight the car wouldn't roll.

What APITA, not wanting to pull the entire C6 hub back off the axle flange to install the hold back spring on the shoe I cursed and with some persistence I won! That spring had some tension and would slip out from one side while I put pressure on the other side and the middle wouldn't go down into the shoe (insert curse words) ...

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She's safe and sound here under cover!
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This is the culprit ... the hold back spring that fits inside the shoe between the hub and backing plate w 1/8" clearance, grrrr!

And the HF jack failed and the car came to rest on the gas tank, yep ... dented the new tank a little.

So I'm here in Denver and start my new job with CDOT this Monday. Hope to see some guys for the PPIR OPTIMA event, thanks for looking ...

[Mikael A]

Very cool looks like a nice new home for her. Congrats on the new job :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Never trust your life and your car to the chinaman built jack my friend..... never. Losing your fingers or hand - or life - to a cheaply built POS..... yeah that's just not the place to save money. Tools such as that are one time - lifetime purchases.

While they can all fail.... you're odds probably rise exponentially with the "more money you saved"...

I place a higher value on my well being than that.

Sorry it happened. Now order a Hein-Werner or similar.

Beware the "assembled in the USA" vs MADE in the USA.....

Norco is also a top contender - made in Taiwan.... but is a great piece of equipment that I trust my fat ass with.

[dhutton]

This is a great US made jack:

http://www.mile-x.com/hein-werner-hw93642-2-ton-service-jack/?gclid=CMqtj4Crs9QCFQkzaQodZh8PgA

Don

[waynieZ]

Hi chief, Glad to hear from you. It must feel good being settled in with a new job. Now you can get back to living and your car.
Sucks about the jack, at least you didn't get hurt.

[Sonar Chief]

Thanks guys, already started looking for a new jack ... I pressed the car up and then went to get the stands and it lost pressure and rested on the tank, not bad thou ... still pisses me off!

Been helping Kevin with his 68 Camaro that's at the pre-body shop guy [works at body shop during the day] got the DSE roll bar all set and welded in and just finishing some seam sealer and then it's coming back to Kevin's to get the undercarriage detailed and painted ... that's where I come in :hello: The body shop will be ready to take the car end of June, I think, and she'll get her top coat and stripes then back to assemble the car at Kevin's shop.

Keeps me outa trouble and I'm still working on cars ...

[clill]

I bought this trans jack from Harbor and love it. With coupon it was about half of anybody elses.

https://www.harborfreight.com/1-and-1-1-2-half-ton-two-stage-transmission-jack-33884.html

[Sonar Chief]

Thought I'd update my thread with the latest where about, I have been helping my buddy with his 68 Camaro rebuild. My task was to get the underside all cleaned up and in epoxy so we could Raptor bedliner, (my bad) the wheel wells and get her off the rotisserie. Mission accomplished!!!

Came out pretty darn well, Kevin applied the RAPTOR lining, take a look!

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Second coat of epoxy drying!
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RAPTOR lined the wheel wells front to back and the tail panel got some too!
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/hLJADT.jpg
Yeah that's my Camaro sitting under the cover! ------>>>>>>>
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/k3IfVq.jpg
That's just a cool picture!



I helped Kevin get his baby ready for the body shop, got her off the rotisserie and sitting on stands, should be getting the suspension under her next weekend!

My boys (and a girlfriend) will be here tomorrow for a week so I'll take a break from Camaro's and spend some time w family camping and fishing!

Thanks for looking ....

[glassman]

What?!? Camping and Fishing???? I guess you'll have plenty of time to finish this beast come winter?

Cant wait to see it done....anyways, have fun, stay safe!!

[Spiffav8]

Looks pretty clean under there. Nice work!

[RdHuggr68]

Thought I'd update my thread with the latest where about, I have been helping my buddy with his 68 Camaro rebuild. My task was to get the underside all cleaned up and in epoxy so we could Rhino line the wheel wells and get her off the rotisserie. Mission accomplished!!!

Came out pretty darn well, Kevin applied the Rhino lining, take a look!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/WoexOV.jpg
Second coat of epoxy drying!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/mMP7XX.jpg
Rhino lined the wheel wells front to back and the tail panel got some too!
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/hLJADT.jpg
Yeah that's my Camaro sitting under the cover! ------>>>>>>>
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/k3IfVq.jpg
That's just a cool picture!



I helped Kevin get his baby ready for the body shop, got her off the rotisserie and sitting on stands, should be getting the suspension under her next weekend!

My boys (and a girlfriend) will be here tomorrow for a week so I'll take a break from Camaro's and spend some time w family camping and fishing!

Thanks for looking ....

RAPTOR not Rhino:twak:

[Sonar Chief]

What?!? Camping and Fishing???? I guess you'll have plenty of time to finish this beast come winter?

Cant wait to see it done....anyways, have fun, stay safe!!

Mike, this car will be finished at a local body shop! Family time is important, we'll be safe!

[Sonar Chief]

Looks pretty clean under there. Nice work!

:thankyou: she is very clean, had some fish eyes on the first go round so sanded and re-coated with epoxy, she's got two nice coats before the RAPTOR liner.

Kevin .... don't know why I kept saying Rh...o liner, IT'S RAPTOR bedliner!:computer:

[Mikael A]

Looks great..I am putting raptor in the same exact areas.

[waynieZ]

Nice and clean! I like the idea of the Raptor liner in the wheel wells.
Have a good trip.

[Beach Cruiser]

Looks great! I remember a time when my car was in the same position and all clean and shiny! not so much any more.

[Steve68]

Any updates Chief?

[waynieZ]

Any updates Chief?

X2 Inquiring minds want to know!

[glassman]

X3,,,,,Bueller? Bueller?......

[Sonar Chief]

Hey guys I appreciate the requests for updates, however I don't have anything to update. Having the car stored safely in Kevin's shop is a great thing as I don't have any room to store let alone work on my car here, hopefully real soon I can have a 2 car garage with an attached house :confused59:

Hope all peoples have a Merry Christmas and some good family time!!!

[Sieg]

Merry Christmas Chief, enjoy the season. :thumbsup:

[Steve68]

Awesome, everyone needs a big garage, at least a 2 car,

I've actually been working on my car, I'm trying to catch up to you.......lol

[GregWeld]

Hey guys I appreciate the requests for updates, however I don't have anything to update. Having the car stored safely in Kevin's shop is a great thing as I don't have any room to store let alone work on my car here, hopefully real soon I can have a 2 car garage with an attached house :confused59:

Hope all peoples have a Merry Christmas and some good family time!!!



GO GET 'ER CHIEF!!

Merry Xmas buddy!

[gofastwclass]

Hey guys I appreciate the requests for updates, however I don't have anything to update. Having the car stored safely in Kevin's shop is a great thing as I don't have any room to store let alone work on my car here, hopefully real soon I can have a 2 car garage with an attached house :confused59:

Hope all peoples have a Merry Christmas and some good family time!!!

You want a two car garage with an attached HOUSE? If that is your perspective you need a bigger garage! Dream big my friend! :idea: :D

[Sonar Chief]

Merry Christmas Chief, enjoy the season. :thumbsup:

Happy Holidays to you and your family!!

Awesome, everyone needs a big garage, at least a 2 car,

I've actually been working on my car, I'm trying to catch up to you.......lol

Steve ... all I need is a garage and a loft to live in, lol!!


GO GET 'ER CHIEF!!

Merry Xmas buddy!

Thanks Greg, have a great Holiday with the family buddy!

You want a two car garage with an attached HOUSE? If that is your perspective you need a bigger garage! Dream big my friend! :idea: :D

I might look for a 3 car but **** is expensive in Denver!




Was looking back at the RUST my Camaro had when I started I thought I might share some pics in case some of you hadn't seen the beginning ....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/20/120330175.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/0k120330175j)
If you think patching a corner of the door will fix the rust think again!!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/850/120610846.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nm120610846j)
Looking up into the quarter from the trunk!

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The door pillar where a mouse house was sitting on the shelf, yuck!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/41/1304262080.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/151304262080j)
Yeah seam sealer in the trunk ... what a waste of time!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/15/12021110.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/0f12021110j)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/854/zbdg.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/nqzbdgj)
Big blob of DVM ...

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Causes the quarter to rust out .. grrrr!

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This pic makes me cringe!!!

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Side tulip rust, making me sick to my stomach ....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/VV0Urx.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmVV0Urxj)
Both sides looked like this ... yours does too!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/HuHBi7.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/pmHuHBi7j)
IF you don't replace your roof it will keep rusting ....


So that's why my OCD took over and I replaced all the metal ... lipstick on a pig doesn't cover up the pig, lol!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/ID0vkH.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/poID0vkHj)
One of my favorite pictures ... post rust of course!

[gofastwclass]

Nice work Chief, you are doing it the right way. I'm in the middle of a similar situation on my project. I replaced the entire floor from toe boards to the tail lights. At this rate our cars will out live us. :headscratch:

It's nice to take a step back and recap on occasion. Documenting the build process is excellent because you can see the steps, time and materials invested that gets forgotten once everything looks pretty. For me the odd pause to reflect gives me perspective and makes staying motivated to keep moving forward much easier.

[XLexusTech]

More I explored more rust I found.. ended up with just roof and quarters everything else was cut out and replaced

[Sonar Chief]

Nice work Chief, you are doing it the right way. I'm in the middle of a similar situation on my project. I replaced the entire floor from toe boards to the tail lights. At this rate our cars will out live us. :headscratch:

It's nice to take a step back and recap on occasion. Documenting the build process is excellent because you can see the steps, time and materials invested that gets forgotten once everything looks pretty. For me the odd pause to reflect gives me perspective and makes staying motivated to keep moving forward much easier.

Yes, most car guys get that :thumbsup: to others it's just another car :getout:

More I explored more rust I found.. ended up with just roof and quarters everything else was cut out and replaced

I'd be suspicious of 'what's under the roof' just saying from experience its not pretty if the rest of the car needed repair!

[waynieZ]

When you’re doing the work OCD is a PIA, but makes all the difference in the finished product. Happy new year .

[Sonar Chief]

hey isn't that a Dixie Chicks song? My car is finally home, thanks to Kevin for keeping her safe and sound, and only steps away from me now! I had to put her on wheel doolies to I can move it from one side to the other and still get a door open. Of course the XR650R has to be pushed outside to move the Camaro. I have been working on final body work, which is not my favorite task, and hopefully get it back into epoxy and then wrap.

I pulled the maroon wrap off the front valance and header, didn't undercoat the back sides, and found out the SPI Epoxy didn't want to let go of the wrap. I came off in little bitty pieces and then left the adhesive which I had to "skin" off with a razor blade, grrr. So a call to SPI and he suggested I clear coat over the SPI Epoxy to provide a barrier to the wrap. After all, clear is nothing more the paint w/o pigment.

Knowing my limits I have a body man coming over next week to look at what needs to be done to get the doors and the front sheet metal aligned and looking as good as the body tub. Meanwhile I'll finish the body the best I can and start with the mock up of wiring [AAW 15] and A/C [V/A]. I ordered Speedtech tubs and engine down bars, and sent my Ididit column back to get shortened, thanks Jay, for working with me!

Well, here's some car porn for your viewing pleasure, and yes I sat out the shed and petted my car when she came home, missed her bunches!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/921/Ag6Qbs.jpg
Got the shed cleaned and started laying down some vinyl flooring …. she deserves better than a greasy ol floor!
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Pulled out of Kevin's car hauler!
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After some "redneckery" loading she's home :relax:
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Not a lot of room, but we all have to work with what we have!
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Started sanding down the SPI epoxy and added filler to getter straight … as I can!
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Working on the hood today, half done![I]


Other than that, went out to Sonoma to see Greg's car run and hang with some great guys that came out to support Greg and his family. I also went down to PPIR OPTIMA and saw the gang from Cali, got to ride with Efrain on the cruise, thanks buddy …..good times:D


The goal is to drive the OPTIMA in my car next year!


Well time to turn on the big fan and get to work, thanks for looking ...

[WSSix]

Glad to see the car is back with you again. Good luck making Optima next year, Chief

[syborg tt]

Looks awesome.

I really love the red Upper and lower valance.

[Sonar Chief]

Glad to see the car is back with you again. Good luck making Optima next year, Chief


I am soooooo glad to have it so close! Thanks buddy that's my goal:thankyou:

Looks awesome.

I really love the red Upper and lower valance.


Thanks, I learned a lot wrapping these parts …. prematurely, now to get my compressor wired up this weekend and get the Lizard Skin on the back side and some black epoxy on the inner front fenders.


UPDATE: Finished the hood, AC is shipped and have some tubing coming for the brakes and fuel lines, time to get to work plumbing the car:hairpullout:

Still in a haze with the passing of Greg ….

[Sonar Chief]

Now to get to work:lol: Just wished it wasn't this dang hot, maybe I should work through the night when it's cooler, lol.


Still waiting on some cable sheaving and shrink wrap for the electrical, a starter solenoid with cables for a truck mount battery. Pictures for you viewing pleasure ….

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/773/2eC0DD.jpg
Speedtech inner fenderwells made by Glastek, I already have the down bars!
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Control panel will get mounted in the center dash somewhere!
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Got the EZ-clips for the AC hoping for better bend radius and ease of installation.
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Got the evap unit mocked up!
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Had to search hard to find these bulkhead fittings for the Finch plate
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Mastercool flaring tool for the AN fittings for fuel and brake lines. Fragola nuts and sleeves for -6 AN and Eastwood tubing straightener for 3/8.
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Tube bender, fuel filter, SS 3/8 line and GM quick disconnects and -6 AN line to fuel pump!
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My HWY 15 kit is going to be modified still need relays for fuel pump, AC, fans, and accessories.



Trying to plan ahead and think of all the parts I might need :rolleyes: and I thank Vince for sharing his knowledge and answering all my stupid questions!

Post install pictures to come, thanks for looking …

[jarhead]

looking good Chief!

[Sonar Chief]

lines from tank to firewall! Well that was a lesson in patience but I persisted and :gitrdun: . I did have to re-make the rear fuel line cuz I tried to correct one bend that was too short and the just made it worse, so I made a new one this morning in about a half an hour.

I left the fuel line long at the firewall and did not terminate it yet, may add a 45 degree and GM quick disconnect or leave it parallel to the firewall. Figure it's best to not commit to termination side just yet!

And my Ididit column came back, had to have it shortened to 30" to fit with the extreme subframe, thanks to Speedtech for labor and shipping charges.

Well here are some pictures for your viewing pleasure …


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/3417/kViKjs.jpg

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/9324/SDpag8.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9752/SxOChf.jpg



I also received my QuickCar battery relocation kit that included the starter solenoid and cables, not gonna use the dash plate, really meant for dirt track guys.

Now back to install of the VA evap and lines, thanks for looking ...

[waynieZ]

The lines came out nice.

[Sonar Chief]

The lines came out nice.

Thanks Wayne, there is always a first for everything!

Keep plugging away with all that is electrical and needs to tie into the AAW 15. Seems GM already has a relay for the fans, fuel pump and ac in their factory harness, nice scratch that off the list. I did find out that the Racepak needs a feed for the engine speed and oil pressure so I ordered the associated male connectors and seal for the Delphi connector that GM leaves dead headed as their bulkhead connector.

Figured I'd get keep moving while I'm waiting on parts to installed the Raingear Hidden Wiper system. Pretty straight forward, used some flex tubing and heat shrink and she's in, I'll finish the final alignment tomorrow.

Here's some pictures …

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/474/2fu5fI.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8862/LMSKjI.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8084/pZEuQq.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8997/Lta6Ru.jpg

I'll keep working on electrical and get some routing and finalize the battery, solenoid, breaker and forward connections for power.

Thanks for looking ….

[Che70velle]

Nice work as always Chief! Glad your back at it.

[dhutton]

Great attention to detail as always. One thing I would suggest is to use some kind of fan controller that gives you more than a simple on/off. These fans are noisy when running full speed. Entropy has a two speed controller or better yet the continuously variable PWM controller from DC Controls works great.

Don

[214Chevy]

Nice progress...

[Sonar Chief]

Great attention to detail as always. One thing I would suggest is to use some kind of fan controller that gives you more than a simple on/off. These fans are noisy when running full speed. Entropy has a two speed controller or better yet the continuously variable PWM controller from DC Controls works great.

Don


Don, thanks, I do have the Entropy speed controller … uh, somewhere that I haven't found yet. I will use their controller as soon as I find it, I'm also looking for my Rick's fuel pump pigtail for the SS Camaro fuel pump. :EmoteClueless:


Nice work as always Chief! Glad your back at it.

Nice progress...

Thanks guys, it is sure nice to be working on my girl again. Expecting some parts in this week to keep er going, brake lines are next and finish electrical :thumbsup:

[Sonar Chief]

OCD taking over here ... but I would bet no one ever thought to check the ID of their brand new AN-3 fittings! Well I received my Fragola fittings for the brake lines, mainly bulkhead fittings and some 90 and 45 degree fittings and after inspection I noticed there was a difference in the 'shoulder' of many of the fittings at the 37 degree flange. So I investigated the difference and found the straight through fittings would easily accept a 1/8' drill bit … hmmm, so I went through the entire order of fittings and made them all 1/8" minimum. I put the drill bit in the vice and 'hand drilled' the fitting onto the bit. Most obstruction came from the bulkhead fittings with 90 and 45's that weren't drilled all the way through to the end [if that makes sense].

Definitely time consuming, but a task I needed to get done to ensure all ID's were the same. Pictures may not be that good but you get the idea :shakehead:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/7113/u9RQCu.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8423/GzF8Vr.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2791/ku6ffz.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8809/mVGHcV.jpg



I got the brake lines mocked up and will steady the course and continue the task of routing the brake lines …. thanks for looking!

[Sonar Chief]

Electrical going well …. mostly routed to not interfere with other things, mainly worried about how much space those VA hoses take up.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9613/ZwadOj.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9994/lbYc9B.jpg

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Placed each system close enough to where they need to terminate to get the BIG Picture so far. Waiting on some bulkhead pass throughs before I commit to drilling holes in the tulip panel.

And … does anyone know how to wire this Rick's Fuel Pump connector? I left a message with Rick's but heard nothing back yet. I have a fuel gauge feed wire to the back of the car but not a fuel pump feed yet.


Thanks for looking ….

[dhutton]

Black and white to the connector are fuel pump power and ground. Black is ground.

The tan and black/white wires are the fuel sender and fuel sender ground.

Don

[Sonar Chief]

Black and white to the connector are fuel pump power and ground. Black is ground.

The tan and black/white wires are the fuel sender and fuel sender ground.

Don



Don, thanks bunches, that's what I thought too. Just confusing why they would put male spade connectors on the sender unit? Basically they added the fuel sender wires into the red flex wrap so you could get to it from the trunk.

Thanks again :thumbsup:

[Sonar Chief]

ran into fitment problems … the Wilwood proportioning valve combo mount wouldn't work … seems when you add a clutch master cylinder plate to your firewall you don't have any threads left on the upper MC mount. :EmoteClueless:

Thought of using new bolts [which meant taking out the steering wheel and the under dash brace and pressing out the studs and adding new ones] but after a sleeping on it I said "why can't you just turn the bracket over and use it on the left side?" So that's what I did, trimmed the bracket, got new nuts to clear the valve handle, cut and painted it with SEM black :gitrdun:

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Finished the install of the AAW 15 waiting on the bulkhead plugs.
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Made order out of the chaos RacePak, notice my Excel spread sheet :mock:
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This was not going to work on the right side anyway … Speedtech down bars want to occupy the same space!
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So turn in upside down and put it on the left side, hey!
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That's mo better.
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Figured since I was in the engine compartment I'd form the hard lines. I'm glad I choose the NiCo lines cuz I would have messed up some SS. The SS coil lines were harder then heck to cut but look nice.

Now to disassemble and send back the MC for the recall … thanks for looking!

[Sonar Chief]

Been doing a little this and that ... made some brake lines from the proportioning valve to the bulkhead fittings, came out pretty good. My battery came in so I worked in the trunk and now I will be going to the chiropractor tomorrow :ohsnap: I'll work on the rest of the brake lines next.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2934/suWaEn.jpg
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First time I made battery cables from scratch, Kevin loaned me his crimper and cutter to get' er dun, thanks bunches. I climbed in the trunk and drilled and tapped a ground on the roll bar and mounted the mega fuse in an accessible place, well sorta, hopefully I'll never have to replace it.

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Drilled a hole in the driver's side tulip panel and pulled the forward wires through, still need to add the power and the switch wires for the horns, which just came in, Hella of course.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5572/jRE3ye.jpg
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More to come later, thanks for looking ...

[Mikael A]

Looks great :gitrdun:

[CamaroAJ]

Are you using aluminum AN fittings for your brake lines? That's a big no no if you are.

[Sonar Chief]

after a little break helping my buddy Pete get his Rocky Mountain Sheep Ram!!!! Had a blast in the mountains but I can tell anyone that hasn't attempted this hunt it was not for the faint of heart.


All things electrical … finished up the trunk wiring and the front lighting. Luckily I had keep all the OEM harness and I needed the single element reverse light socket and the front turn signal sockets. I was surprised that AAW didn't include a wire for the reverse lights so I ran it forward and will terminate it when I get the T56 installed.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9401/KbXGbO.jpg
This is the terminated brown wire for the rear lights and license plate light, 1 into 3 … really!
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OEM single element socket for the reverse light, had to get the contact out of the socket to reuse the socket.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6510/7MgAoC.jpg
The rear harness all loomed out and my fingers still hurt, 4 wires filled the 1/4 loom and it was tight!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/6088/ytJHRY.jpg
Had to tap the stands on the housings to accept 8-32 screws and then a coat of reflective paint, looks good!
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I was very surprised to find the front turn signals I ordered matched the OEM ones, nice!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/8517/C6wxgF.jpg
Luckily I had the OEM sockets for the turn signals, molex butt connector and heat shrink and she's good to go.

I unwrapped my front GM grille assembly and to my surprise there was my dash pad:confused59: Guess it's been wrapped since 2011 to protect it from the crud. Thinking I'll send it in and get a make over but not as bulky as GM made them in the 60's. I set it in place with the new turn signals to get the lengths and placement of the wiring harness. Next is to take the rivets out and get it powder coated and install my NOS grille insert …. can't wait!

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I have the OEM clip for the harness running across the tail pan, just needed cleaning and some paint!

Making progress on the wiring … still need to loom everything once I know all is well and works and planned. Thanks for looking ...

[glassman]

progress. nice. loved the shots on ig of u guys trying to get that horned thing.
get that thing done so u can join us on tour...

[Sonar Chief]

progress. nice. loved the shots on ig of u guys trying to get that horned thing.
get that thing done so u can join us on tour...


Thanks Mike, it was a blast in the mountains and helping Pete get his dream sheep was worth the risks.

I'm trying to get as much done as I can before winter sets in …

[Sonar Chief]

Update on the ol girl ... well first off the center dash panel from Classics didn't fit fer sh!te, didn't follow the concave of the dash so I ordered an Anvil blank panel!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/830/2unFaO.jpg
I keep the OEM dash panel …. they are not the same!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/745/2PUfhO.jpg

What else? Oh my Wilwood MC came back from the recall they had on the 7/8, so that's back on the car. Now I can finish up the front brake lines … maybe tomorrow :gitrdun:

So I did some looming and some de-looming (is that a word?) today. Took all that plastic loom off the GM harness and taped up loose wires for future use.

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Still need to drill out the holes for the ac and heater hoses!!
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That's a lot of plastic looming ...

Got the Finch firewall plate installed and the VA evap unit bolted to the plate from the inside. Thinking of bolting on the ECM and fuse box on this plate to keep it simple.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2540/QvAzL7.jpg

And my Dapper Lighting 7" LED projector lights came in and they do not need any mods to the bucket :D that's a WIN there!!!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5799/FogCDH.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2614/Oz3Qqm.jpg


That's it for now, more to come tomorrow, thanks for looking …

[Che70velle]

Love the progress Chief! Your valvecovers/ cylinder head will be awfully close to that relay panel mounted on the Finch plate. I’d do a mock-up with engine in, before I drilled any holes.

[Sonar Chief]

Love the progress Chief! Your valvecovers/ cylinder head will be awfully close to that relay panel mounted on the Finch plate. I’d do a mock-up with engine in, before I drilled any holes.

Excellent idea, I thought about that last night, think I'll wait to route the harness until the engine is in 👍. Still thinking of ECM on this panel but fuse box maybe on inner wheel tub.

Thanks for the feedback...

[Sonar Chief]

perfectly good firewall!!! Not a big deal really, after all it's only metal right?

The template on VA's website was not the same as the Finch firewall plate and it was a good thing I checked. Measure twice and cut once right :confused59:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5445/9GwD9r.jpg
Centered and drilled 7/8 inch hole for AC connections!
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Had to move the Camaro over to get to the firewall!
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Figured I'd get the front driver's side brake line done too!


Thanks for looking ...

[Sonar Chief]

and somethings don't!! Thought I'd share some parts that work as designed and some that didn't.

First the good, I ordered the DSE throttle plate for the C6 accelerator and it is a well designed piece and fit perfectly. Had to run a 1/4-20 tap through the Sheetmetal but no biggie!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6012/SujsXK.jpg

Next was the not so good … been frustrated with finding a blank dash panel for my car and thought Anvil would be the solution (they said their panel followed the contours of the dash) but it didn't fit for sh!te. The angle for the roll off at the bottom was all wrong and there was not enough concave in the panel.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5664/DWZgdQ.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/9484/fwBisL.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8396/MKyiMP.jpg


If anyone has any solutions to this dash dilemma I'd love to hear from you!!!! Thinking of making a wooden buck and re-contouring the Classic Ind Sheetmetal dash panel to fit OEM dash.



And to share some things that I found that might help someone else out …
how to attach the upper and grille to the center piece. How about the attaching the turn signals through the grille? Ace Hardware to the rescue …

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/129/Fp594D.jpg
The course threads required a license plate nut!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/9148/zAQ3vA.jpg
Bought plastic nuts and bolts to hold the center dash to upper and lower panels!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6288/bznqHq.jpg


Anyone with any input into the dash dilemma I'd appreciate your input. Anvil said they would refund the panel but that doesn't help my vision of a blank panel.

I sent a bunch of stuff out for powder coating and well see if they come through, thanks for looking ...

[Beechy]

Chiefy.......

Take an industrial heat gun to the non-conforming bends..


...:popcorn2:

[Sonar Chief]

Chiefy.......

Take an industrial heat gun to the non-conforming bends..


...:popcorn2:

Yeah I thought of that but everyone says you can't heat the automotive resins. Have you personally done this?

[Beechy]

Short answer...NO......I have reproduced taillight housings for my 68 in CF, and installed a lot of body panels on RACECAR applications in CF.

1: I would have thought those parts were thin and flexible enuf to push into place enyhoo......emphasis on THIN

2: If they're cold laid-up on a bench (vac-bagged), they won't be any more pesky than regular fiberglass resin. CF resin is optically clearer so it doesn't have that yellow tint, and better quality with UV sunscreen.

3: If they were autoclaved (HIGHLY UNLIKELY)....different story....they'd be a lot tougher but still so thin and flexy as to cooperate.

4: Call Anvil.

[Sonar Chief]

Short answer...NO......I have reproduced taillight housings for my 68 in CF, and installed a lot of body panels on RACECAR applications in CF.

1: I would have thought those parts were thin and flexible enuf to push into place enyhoo......emphasis on THIN

2: If they're cold laid-up on a bench (vac-bagged), they won't be any more pesky than regular fiberglass resin. CF resin is optically clearer so it doesn't have that yellow tint, and better quality with UV sunscreen.

3: If they were autoclaved (HIGHLY UNLIKELY)....different story....they'd be a lot tougher but still so thin and flexy as to cooperate.

4: Call Anvil.







Thanks for the info, I'm not sure of their manufacturing process but I have been in contact with Anvil and they are not sure why the curvature of their blank doesn't match my OEM dash. So the plan is to send back the blank AND my OEM for inspection …. maybe get a custom blank made to match my dash, we'll see!

[bretcopsey]

Short answer...NO......I have reproduced taillight housings for my 68 in CF, and installed a lot of body panels on RACECAR applications in CF.


Not to hijack Chief’s thread, but do you have any more detail on the CF tailights reproduction posted somewhere?

[Beechy]

Not to hijack Chief’s thread, but do you have any more detail on the CF tailights reproduction posted somewhere?

bretcopsey........sorry, nothing.
I rebuilt my '68SS fifteen years ago.

Used dental plaster to take molds off the original tailight housings and laid up cf copies. Dental plaster is the finest grade .....picks up ALL the surface detail but goes off like a $2 hooker!

CF fabric and Ultraclear resin are available at plastic supply stores and the process is same as fiberglass except that you have to be REALLY accurate with the first layer (cutting it, laying it and ensuring it doesn't move in the layup) cos it's what u see in the final product. You can of course clear 2-pack the end result. Portions of the housings that were chrome, I painted bright silver, so it's only the wide beveled surface that's visible.
CF materials are 30% more expensive than fiberglass......negligible.

[Sonar Chief]

Happy Halloween!!! I did get a treat … picked up my parts from the powder coater!:thumbsup:


I did get correspondence from Anvil concerning the dash panel and they said I could use an industrial heat gun to bend their panel but I'd have to 'over bend' the panel to let it relax to fit the angle of the dangle. The jury is still out ….


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Don't mind the dust … my bad!
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This should look good … you think?
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Now to find my heater for my shed here, we got lots of snow and it's cold out now!

Thanks for looking ...

[syborg tt]

Wow tons of progress and great pictures.

Car looks great and enjoying the updates.

[Spiffav8]

Heck yeah!

[Sonar Chief]

Wow tons of progress and great pictures.

Car looks great and enjoying the updates.


Thanks bunches, it is nice to have the car so close … even if it's in a closet!

Heck yeah!

Been wanting to do this for a long time, it's all original to the car so it should fit …. famous last words!




Well it took two shipments to get fenders from AMD that weren't banged up to much, the RH had suffured UPS idiots so a discount was in order. So while I was at my AMD dealer I asked him about his car, he hasn't touched it in 4 years … but it's pretty cool.

Some car porn …. oh, Jeff has a numbers matching 70 GTX to die for and an awesome 69 Charger too :king: Yes he does all his own work, including paint!!!


Think I'd give my left nut for his shops, this is three of 7 garage spaces!!!


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So the RH fender has a ding and some stamping imperfections as expected but workable fer sure. Got the Finch firewall plate mounted and the VA evap mounted to the same so now I can move forward with the VA install.
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Worked on the Entropy controller mounting options and I'm not happy with the radiator support option cuz the wiring plugs are perpendicular to the controller connection and it looks outa place … think I'll make a closeout panel where the battery was and get the wires parallel with the radiator support …. dang 10 ga wire, it will flow better and not put tension on the wires.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1176/R5bo0M.jpg

I finished wiring my compressor … it works! So now I just have to run the air lines and get the drops down but it's been cold in the garage [dang the north facing garages] so I picked up a kerosene heater that should heat up my shed pretty well.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7084/JuxuHs.jpg


Thanks for looking, more garage time now with a heater :RunninDog:

[waynieZ]

Be careful that heater will choke you or at least give you a big head ache.

[Sonar Chief]

Be careful that heater will choke you or at least give you a big head ache.

Thanks Wayne, I only lite off the heater before and I run a fan to circulate the fumes out of the cracked garage door, then I turn it off.

[Sonar Chief]

Seems like when I think things are going well .... the ****e hits the fan. Well, since the last update, I got the holes drilled in the dash for the VA outlets. APITA cuz I had to buy two hole saws to get 'er dun.

Since then my AMD fenders came in, I was so focused on the external skin I waited 2 months to get a set with as little 'shipping' damage that I never gave thought that the fenders might BE STAMPED WRONG!!!

So over the weekend I put the fenders on and the driver's side fit as expected, not so bad, but the passenger's side didn't fit fer ****e. After gettin my OEM fender from the shed they didn't stamp it correctly. Go figure, it's AMD ****e :disgusted::disgusted: Called my AMD rep and he compared his pass fender and it was the same as mine ... so I figured I might as well find out why it's wrong.

For your viewing pleasure ....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1786/99xMBd.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/5410/mD3pu5.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6178/AnCKaC.jpg

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It seems the inner brace with the hinges attached was not held in the jig properly and it actually was angled almost 3/4 inch high over the rest of the run to the back of the fender, so I cut out the welds and got her straight over the run.

I didn't have any weld thru primer tonight so I will get some tomorrow. Trying to get the front end together asap to get her to the body shop for some 'front end alignment ' the My Body Man is going to get the doors and the fenders/hood lined up and ready for final bodywork ....

Seems the snowstorm is going to hold things up some which works in my favor, who'd thought that they would stamp them wrong ...... oh yeah,me!!!


Thanks for looking ...

[Che70velle]

I haven’t bought a ton of aftermarket metal, but for my Chevelle, I had to cut my passenger “new” fender up to make it fit, but it was along the door edge, not along the hood edge. And then I had to cut the drivers fender extension all to pieces to make it fit. I figured that all of this “new metal was this way. I talked to my lifetime painter friend about it before I actually started hacking the stuff up, and he said that it’s all this way, part of the process. My hood did fit good, but it had 2 small dings on it, which was no biggie to me.

[Sonar Chief]

I haven’t bought a ton of aftermarket metal, but for my Chevelle, I had to cut my passenger “new” fender up to make it fit, but it was along the door edge, not along the hood edge. And then I had to cut the drivers fender extension all to pieces to make it fit. I figured that all of this “new metal was this way. I talked to my lifetime painter friend about it before I actually started hacking the stuff up, and he said that it’s all this way, part of the process. My hood did fit good, but it had 2 small dings on it, which was no biggie to me.

Thanks for sharing ... the AMD parts I have looked over and rejected the rep calls the headquarters and he gets the same old response, "we checked the back stock and they are all like that!" Well, duh ... you are stamping them wrong!
Oh, how's this for fender extension bolt "holes"?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/2348/ymppNs.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3014/wbTVfg.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4021/sjtjIj.jpg


I will call the body man Monday and see what he wants me to do with the fender, thanks for looking ...

[rustomatic]

That's some annoying shizz. It just means that some of the best parts will always be found via junkyard or some dude's stash (or crash), rather than "legit" sources of new parts. Some things just can't be new . . .

[dhutton]

The last pair of repop fender extensions I bought fit like crap. Luckily I found some originals.

Don

[Mikael A]

I feel your pain brother, replaced all sheet metal on my 68 Camaro but the roof. It took 2 years and I modified every piece :hairpullout:

[waynieZ]

That sucks they weren’t even close. They’ve been making these for how long? And still can’t get it right.

[Sonar Chief]

That's some annoying shizz. It just means that some of the best parts will always be found via junkyard or some dude's stash (or crash), rather than "legit" sources of new parts. Some things just can't be new . . .

The last pair of repop fender extensions I bought fit like crap. Luckily I found some originals.

Don

I feel your pain brother, replaced all sheet metal on my 68 Camaro but the roof. It took 2 years and I modified every piece :hairpullout:

That sucks they weren’t even close. They’ve been making these for how long? And still can’t get it right.



Repo fenders suck!!!!! Well. I think I can make em better ....

http://imageshack.com/a/img921/509/qGmQrt.jpg
Some clamps and some panel bond ....
http://imageshack.com/a/img924/6501/P9Ctpr.jpg
That'll do pig!!!


I'll finish the fender tomorrow after it cures ... gotta keep the temps which is hard to do ....


Thanks for looking ...

[Flash68]

Mike, you are a warrior! Car is coming out great.... keep chuggin :thumbsup:

[syborg tt]

Thanks for sharing ... the AMD parts I have looked over and rejected the rep calls the headquarters and he gets the same old response, "we checked the back stock and they are all like that!" Well, duh ... you are stamping them wrong!
Oh, how's this for fender extension bolt "holes"?


I will call the body man Monday and see what he wants me to do with the fender, thanks for looking ...

That sucks

[Sonar Chief]

That sucks

Yeah it does .... now to plan B the bonded AMD fender didn't fit. So plan B, use the original fenders that came with the car cuz I know they fit well!

So, the fun begins, stripped down the skin side to determine where it needs help ... what fun:shakehead:

The passenger side is the worst but not too bad, need hammer and dolly work in a couple of areas but it's not the end of the world. I ordered a patch panel and the brace from Classic so I'll get each fender prepped before the parts get here.

Take a look ....

https://imageshack.com/i/plS2NJwOj

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/4098/M2tbxe.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2267/myz1ki.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/699/Fc9DEF.jpg


Man I am so fed up with the repo sheetmetal :bang:

thanks for looking ...

[Sonar Chief]

Mechanical abrasion is APTIA! Well. after 6 hours of d/a and fiber discs on the passenger fender, I realized I could never get the fenders as clean as I needed [read between the skin and the brace] so I sent them off to get chemical stripped.

Should have saved my time and sent them out sooner ... the driver's side did need some extra disc work to get the last of the lacquer paint off. Take a look ...http://imageshack.com/a/img922/3180/mSaub5.jpg
Still needs some work!
http://imageshack.com/a/img922/1313/pJCJeI.jpg
I could never get! this clean with fiber discs
http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4844/wGeqKE.jpg
Like working with new metal ....
http://imageshack.com/a/img923/9148/aEpvWN.jpg
Out with the old ...
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In with the new ...


Well. that's all I have, for now, heading to NM for Xmas and some desert riding on the XR650R. I hope all have a great Xmas with those that mean the most ... thanks for looking!

[Sonar Chief]

Since no one has posted up the process ... I'll post installing Speedtech Inner wheel houses for their extreme subframe. This is how I did it, which is not the only way to install the fiberglass tubs but this is how I did it.... couple calls to Vince to assist was helpful, thanks Vince!


Well, the Glasstek tubs are close they do need some attention, specifically, the radius to match the OEM wheel arch is not the best, in fact,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/7153/vGBG3h.jpg
the whole mold is too wide as compared to the OEM wheel arch. No biggy, I drew the arch on the fiberglass and sanded it down to more resemble the OEM arch.


I did grind off the OEM steel wheel lip by 3/16 and hammer and dolly the radius to vertical.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6325/OJVHce.jpg
As well as to hammer and dolly the upper mounts to the more horizontal plane to match the Glasstek tubs.


The Glasstek was a good mold for references such as the front drop off panel and the radiator support with dimples in the fiberglass that could be drilled out with confidence.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8655/GKlDfG.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5963/dG6fs2.jpg
The only real difficulty was the tub to fender attachment, while the inner had the clearance it still needed to mate up the top brace like the OEM, I even used the OEM fender washers.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/849/QrHqqk.jpg
Once fitted to the fender I fit the tub to the car and marked the location for the top bolts to the fender brace.

You do need to cut off the OEM fender brace coming off the firewall to allow clearance for the tub.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6915/mo7m42.jpg
And my brake lines have to be redone because of the tub that came too close to the MC.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8347/PJDTrB.jpg
I bent the existing brake lines to exit the right side and enter the right side of the MC .... not sure I like them but for now, they'll do.

Of course, I repaired the OEM fenders with patches from Classic with the brace.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6756/XTGzaS.jpg

And then I mounted the entire front end ...
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5960/e2eFTk.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/931/vV4sdk.jpg


Thanks for looking ...

[Goosesdad]

Well done!

[waynieZ]

Nice job ,you got it fitting pretty good.

[Sonar Chief]

Well done!


Thanks, it was kinda intimidating at first but what the heck .... just jump in
:headspin:


Nice job ,you got it fitting pretty good.

Yeah I think it came out ok, just wanted to share in case someone else was intimidated looking at these without instructions :popcorn2:



Now I need some help .... trying to get the hood latch assembly to play nice with the header panel. The latch will not just "fall in place" seems the distance between the header panel and the core support (5.779") and the latch support reads 6.082 ....hmmmm.

The puzzling thing is all the parts on the front end are from this car, except the hood, didn't figure on this mismatch.

I'm no rocket surgeon so if anyone has suggestions fire away ...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7774/R0dZ7I.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7659/2O5DuI.jpg

If I unbolt the fenders from the header and bolt the latch assembly to header and THEN bolt both to the core it pushes the header panel out past the fenders ...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/1852/hJboqq.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2011/aq0GGy.jpg



Suggestions ?? Other 67 measurements header to core support???


Thanks again ....

[Sonar Chief]

Beauty shot after a lot of work ....

http://imageshack.com/a/img921/8625/MoafWa.jpg

[WSSix]

Wish I could help with the hood latch. You've come a long way. The car is looking great! Keep up the good work.

[JD67SS]

So what’s the new part? The Core support?
That’s my guess at the problem...

Let me know if you need measurements for anything

JD

[joeko23]

Your aftermarket front clip should have 2 locations for bolting up the front core support. The first location (closest to the firewall) should be for 67-68 camaro and Novas and the second location a few inches forward should be for a 69 Camaro. I think you just bolted the core support in the 69 Camaro location. I may be wrong but on my Chris alstons frame it has 2 locations to bolt up the core support. If that doesn’t work I would just bend the latch assembly since that’s what looks like is pushing the header panel forward that 1/2” or so.

[dhutton]

Install your hood without the latch in place. I think you might find the header panel crown is low and once you get that right the latch will fit better. At least that is my recollection from the last time I dealt with this.

Don

[Sonar Chief]

Wish I could help with the hood latch. You've come a long way. The car is looking great! Keep up the good work.


Thanks, wished it was done already, lol!


So what’s the new part? The Core support?
That’s my guess at the problem...

Let me know if you need measurements for anything

JD


Thanks JD, all the metal is GM except the AMD hood.

Your aftermarket front clip should have 2 locations for bolting up the front core support. The first location (closest to the firewall) should be for 67-68 camaro and Novas and the second location a few inches forward should be for a 69 Camaro. I think you just bolted the core support in the 69 Camaro location. I may be wrong but on my Chris alstons frame it has 2 locations to bolt up the core support. If that doesn’t work I would just bend the latch assembly since that’s what looks like is pushing the header panel forward that 1/2” or so.

Install your hood without the latch in place. I think you might find the header panel crown is low and once you get that right the latch will fit better. At least that is my recollection from the last time I dealt with this.

Don


Thanks for chiming in, I double-checked everything ... read - loosened all the bolts and doubled checked the fitment. The fender can't go back any further cuz the bolt by the hinges,

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5683/e06EY6.jpg

and the cowl and fender alignment is spot on

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7291/jRH10E.jpg

I aligned the AMD hood the best I can and the gaps seems ok, might need a little tweaking but overall not bad ...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/9237/EAtzfj.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9189/j4a1wh.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/9861/vyFzha.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/9677/k9OuTg.jpg



Seems silly but I started pushing the car by the radiator support and by golly it flexed quite a bit so I bolted the latch support loosely and pushed the latch into place ... hmmm, who would have thunk it!

More progress today ... my body man said to use a BFH and a piece of wood to get the AMD trunk lid to sit flat with the window panel. So I beat on her til she's pretty close to being flush with the front and the corners came up to meet the quarters, "winner winner, chicken dinner" :lol:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8859/matILn.jpg




Thanks for chiming in and thanks for looking ....

[Steve68]

I helped my friend rebuild a Jag, took the parts from another Jag, when the hood didn't line up, I held the one corner and he pulled and jerked the hood into position, laid 4x4 on there and pushed on the corners all while it was freshly painted!

[Sonar Chief]

I helped my friend rebuild a Jag, took the parts from another Jag, when the hood didn't line up, I held the one corner and he pulled and jerked the hood into position, laid 4x4 on there and pushed on the corners all while it was freshly painted!


I know it's crazy how much the metal will move without distortion. Last week I would have told you that there is no way that latch would fit in that hole, but it did, guess GM knew what they were doing :smiley_smack:

[Sonar Chief]

Been overthinking an ECM / relay/fan controller mount ... so I just got some 22ga Al sheet and started fabbing something up that would fit in the passenger hole. I do thank Scott (SlowProgress) for his replies, I started thinking I could use the template he made ... but with the inners things were different.

So this is what I came up with, KISS, I will need to transfer dimensions to some thicker Al of course and use some rubber bushings to mount the fender side plate.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/6302/bnVuKa.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8901/dCzmTi.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6159/BFhAjc.jpg


Thanks for looking ...

[Spiffav8]

Jeepers!!! I'm off Lat-G for like 5 min and you practically finish your car. I'm impressed with how far it's come and the level of detail. It's paying off HUGE!!!! Keep at it man!!


:captain:

[Sonar Chief]

Jeepers!!! I'm off Lat-G for like 5 min and you practically finish your car. I'm impressed with how far it's come and the level of detail. It's paying off HUGE!!!! Keep at it man!!


:captain:


Thanks bunches, as Greg has always said: "Just pick up a tool and get something done!" :gitrdun:



That came out just as I envisioned .... don't know if that's good or bad, but it's mine and I did it.

Got my Mittler Bros 2" punch and flare die this evening, so why wait, right?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/5254/mcVFsl.jpg
Testing

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/7167/PDe5cl.jpg
Layout the best I could, nothing fancy!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/87/MKY3RQ.jpg
Some Redneckery bench work, had to bend with a 1/4 radius ...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/4276/mNbP9e.jpg
Think it came out ok, still need to drill and mount stuff.



Gonna be a shame to cover this up with equipment, but it did strengthen the Al quite a bit.

Thanks for looking ...

[DWC]

That piece came out great. :cheers:

Daniel

[Panteracer]

Chief,
That looks great.. you are inspiring me
to get my New Dimple dies out of the box
and get going

Keep up the good work

Bob

[Sonar Chief]

Chief,
That looks great.. you are inspiring me
to get my New Dimple dies out of the box
and get going

Keep up the good work

Bob


Thanks, the first time I'd ever dun this, it came out nice [read: after I did some straightening, too close to the edge caused a little warpage] :hapdance: Now get your dies out and build something cool :gitrdun:


:popcorn2: waiting for pics!

[Sonar Chief]

Well, I used my ACE Hardware to find some alternatives to Rivnuts ...seeing as how I didn't have the blind nut tool or nuts and not really likely the bulkiness of the nut on the backside I went with this ....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2708/iJPY7E.jpg
Of course I bonded these into the metal ..
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1167/ub9Txi.jpg
These gave the perfect standoff for the mounts on the computer
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/2197/8dGERE.jpg
Bonded in 1/4 - 20
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6351/Gha8xa.jpg
KISS ....didn't think all that GM mounting stuff was necessary so I took the box apart and drilled a hole and mounted the box to the plate.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/9582/FyRRPe.jpg
Came out just like a thought it would!


Just need to drill through the inner wheel well and mount a rubber bushed nut to the Al, that's for another day, thanks for looking ...

[jarhead]

looking good Chief!

[Sonar Chief]

looking good Chief!

Thanks Joe, one thing at a time right? Been trying to warm up the garage a bit to work, waiting on some 20 ga TXL wire for my harness I have to make to integrate my IQ3 Street dash to the GM harness.
Since I mounted the relay box where I did I have to extend the IQ3 harness about 4 feet.
Waiting on my through bulkhead connector for power and working on a mount for my AAW fuse box for the dash area -- never ends!!!

I did drill a hole in the tunnel area for a pass-through grommet and finished wiring my Entropy fan controller, just need to wire it up the GM harness, yeah!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5483/IHoLAX.jpg
Had to remove about 18 inches from the harness to make it neat and tidy!
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/633/uvExdp.jpg
This looks good ... didn't care for the BIG HOLE in the dash look ...the GM harness stuff will come through the side tulip panel!


Working on the wiring harness for the incorporation of the IQ3 dash into the GM harness and user indications (turn signals, hi beams, whether I'm being followed, ect,) and planning the routing of said stuff to look right ...


Thanks for looking ...

[Sonar Chief]

Forgot to ask .... any easy methods of getting this spring onto the hood hinge? Remember I'm the only on here ... lol:lmao:


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/1204/YOSFUg.jpg
Had to replace the OEM hinges with these Heartbeat City repros ... pretty close to originals!

Suggestions always welcome ...

[Gmachine1911]

Grab the end towards the front with vice grips, hook the back side and pull it to the front and hook it on the hinge.

[Beechy]

[QUOTE=Sonar Chief;700394]Forgot to ask .... any easy methods of getting this spring onto the hood hinge? Remember I'm the only on here ... lol:lmao:

Chief........DON'T USE VISEGRIPS OR MULTIGRIPS.......a fanbelt is SO much safer!!

[Sonar Chief]

[QUOTE=Sonar Chief;700394]Forgot to ask .... any easy methods of getting this spring onto the hood hinge? Remember I'm the only on here ... lol:lmao:

Chief........DON'T USE VISEGRIPS OR MULTIGRIPS.......a fanbelt is SO much safer!!


Thanks Jim, I thought about the vice grip idea but yours is a great idea and safer ... now I have to go buy a fan belt, lol!

Thanks again ...

[syborg tt]

Here is another alternative if you need a stud. I am mounting these under the dash so I can hang my harness.



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/eb572b01e7528300e7d0484fd4314ecc.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/5841600a45122070b8cc15f3a6df8124.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/ac96c8e19d8ff270844ba93bea383fac.jpg


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[ScotI]

Nice. I've used t-bolts w/epoxy on them in the past. I wondered if something was commercially available. Now I know....

[Sonar Chief]

Here is another alternative if you need a stud. I am mounting these under the dash so I can hang my harness.



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/eb572b01e7528300e7d0484fd4314ecc.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/5841600a45122070b8cc15f3a6df8124.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200207/ac96c8e19d8ff270844ba93bea383fac.jpg


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Hey thanks, those are just what I need for the under dash cable hold-downs ... great idea.

[Sonar Chief]

Dang it's been cold here ... but managed to get some of this and some of that done. In no particular order ... installed my + battery cable pass through,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5526/aarkNC.jpg
worked on my VA wiring harness, finished wiring the main power to the Entropy fan controller, dressed up the Dapper Lighting LED harness
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3856/mFnzIV.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/8149/FEPUkA.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6128/6opRL0.jpg
, tore down the radiator fan assy. for powder coating,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/4629/thv842.jpg
installed my OEM door handles and measured the lock cylinder [AMD skins] for filing,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4105/3RDKPS.jpg
and oh yeah, installed the repro hood hinges .... that's it for now!



Thanks for looking ...

[Spiffav8]

You're making some great progress despite the snow and cold. I'm really enjoying this thread!!

:popcorn2:

[Sonar Chief]

You're making some great progress despite the snow and cold. I'm really enjoying this thread!!

:popcorn2:

Thanks, buddy, I'm trying my best!



Been some time since I updated this thread ... been doing this and that when the temperature cooperates, which has been difficult this winter. My hand surgery has been pushed out til ... who knows when, so I just keep on keeping on and do what I can with what I can.

The pandemic has Aurora going crazy, not to worry though, got food and TP so get to work on the car when I can get the temps up ... supposed to get more snow Friday, grrr ...

So where were we, oh yeah, I ordered a Wolf Fab 4.5" shrinking disc to get the fender patch back to original contours. It seems no matter how careful you welding are there is still going to be some distortion and this shrinking disc is the cat's pajamas.

Had a crown in the fender patch as seen below

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1224/BzXk9m.jpg

with about ten passes with the disc the fender is mo better ....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3153/ioMpba.jpg

It does take some time to shrink the metal but wow what a difference

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/4417/ZZaa3b.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1533/qg9lPY.jpg



Since I was doing some body filler I figured I might as well do some other low spots that needed attention, man this body work is hard work and messy but anyway this is what I get done so far ...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/7248/yY6NLf.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1668/BHj1L0.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/4159/Gr3RBb.jpg


Oh yeah, I pushed the car to access the passenger side and dented the quarter panel on the card table, so I had to fix that with a hammer and dolly and some filler ... the card table is NOT in the garage any more!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3481/PJIhsR.jpg


I did get a headlamp bucket recondition kit but the plastic inserts for the horizontal and vertical adjustment broke .... so I'll work on the front end and get the electrical all sorted out this week I hope.


Thanks for looking and keep being socially responsible ....

[RdHuggr68]

Dang it's been cold here ... but managed to get some of this and some of that done. In no particular order ... installed my + battery cable pass through,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5526/aarkNC.jpg
worked on my VA wiring harness, finished wiring the main power to the Entropy fan controller, dressed up the Dapper Lighting LED harness
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3856/mFnzIV.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/8149/FEPUkA.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6128/6opRL0.jpg
, tore down the radiator fan assy. for powder coating,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/4629/thv842.jpg
installed my OEM door handles and measured the lock cylinder [AMD skins] for filing,
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4105/3RDKPS.jpg
and oh yeah, installed the repro hood hinges .... that's it for now!



Thanks for looking ...
Looks like a lot of neg. camber in the right front wheel dolly!:action-smiley-027:

[Sonar Chief]

Looks like a lot of neg. camber in the right front wheel dolly!:action-smiley-027:

Just an optical dillusion :hello:

[CamaroAJ]

How did you like the 4.5" disk? I have their 8" disk and its helped me out a ton with my roof.

[Sonar Chief]

How did you like the 4.5" disk? I have their 8" disk and its helped me out a ton with my roof.


The 4.5 was just right for the lower fender. I never used one so I watched a lot of videos and knew not to rush the heat and cool cycle for best results. I didn't use air or water to cool just time and the results were great.

[Sonar Chief]

Been in the house for a week and when the temps are good ... it's Camaro time!!

The goal was to get the front end wiring verified with installed equipment and power, well that was the goal ... seems my AAW headlight switch is defective. I cannot get the switch shaft to lock in the headlight switch ...grrrr.

So working on the Dapper lighting LED 7", the lights were great it's the mounting hardware that went south, seems the plastic inserts for the adjustments were brittle and broke on me, ordered more Friday ...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/3548/N7uw9c.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/1701/mSyCdb.jpg

Anywho, I worked on the grille assembly today to only find the powder coater smashed the upper grille assembly mounting flanges closed. So I straightened it mostly to get her installed but she'll need more tweaking ... the simple stuff that kicks your arse!!!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/4669/e9JGCh.jpg

So glad I bought my OEM grille assembly back in '98 (Ummm $79.95) and this is the first time she's been mounted (that sounds awkward) but things lined up pretty well ...

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/6107/KNYYTe.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6152/qsaujF.jpg



The beauty shots ....


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8532/sM8Rql.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/8413/evQqyE.jpg



Really liking the blacked-out look of the grille and headlights ... now if I can only get power to them :headspin: Thought I had the screws for the headlight bezels but I can't find them right now ...


Thanks for looking...

[Gmachine1911]

Looks great, I love the look of the dark headlights! You might double check me, but if I remember right from when I did my AAW kit, AAW made a big deal about installing their headlight switch, specifically with regard to the knob/shaft Assy. Not sure if that helps but might be worth an internet search to see about any special tricks. I don’t recall anything especially different when doing mine, but thought it was worth a mention. Your progress is amazing, keep up the good work!

[Goosesdad]

Looks fantastic!!