Greg Weld's 65 Mustang fastback track car

[clill]

Great car. Engine just rebuilt by Tony Oddo. http://www.toeperf.com/aboutus.htm . Jerico 4 speed, rack and pinion steering, 4 wheel disc brakes, fire bottle etc. This car is sorted and trouble free, makes sound at Laguna Seca, show quality paint etc. Stielow and Jody have driven it and can attest to just how well this car works. .. SOLD

[Flash68]

Killer car. How much hp?

[clill]

I think it is right at 520 hp. I have the dyno sheet somewhere.

[camcojb]

dang it, I want that car. Good luck Charley. That car is a lot of fun, Mark and I had a ball with it. It's a great track car for a novice or a pro.

[clill]

Actually where the hell is Greg Weld ? This would be perfect. Easy to start out slow and go faster as you learn.

[coolwelder62]

Charley,Can Greg aford a car like this.:D

[GregWeld]

Scott -- No I can't.... :unibrow:

I'm a hot rodder not a track guy.

[Flash68]

I'm a hot rodder not a track guy.

And a semi-pro scorekeeper! :D

[Stielow]

This is a great car and a blast to drive! I passed so many cars in the Mustang we lost track. Jody and I were laughing so hard we almost stopped. If I had the loose cash now I would purchase it for my girlfriend Laura to keep her out of my Camaro.

Good grip, nice to drive lots of power the Jeroco is a blast. This car is selling for well less than half of what it would cost to build.

Mark

[camcojb]

This is a great car and a blast to drive! I passed so many cars in the Mustang we lost track. Jody and I were laughing so hard we almost stopped. If I had the loose cash now I would purchase it for my girlfriend Laura to keep her out of my Camaro.

Good grip, nice to drive lots of power the Jeroco is a blast. This car is selling for well less than half of what it would cost to build.

Mark

that was a great day. :thumbsup: And that trans even made me look like a pro. :lol:

[Stuart Adams]

Great price. Fresh motor. Cool car.

[GregWeld]

It's SOLD

[camcojb]

It's SOLD

did you buy it?

[GregWeld]

did you buy it?

So much pressure..... I succumbed!

:wow: :wow: :lol:

[camcojb]

So much pressure..... I succumbed!

:wow: :wow: :lol:

you'll love the car Greg. It's fast and completely sorted. You get comfortable in it real fast. Plus it's one of the nicest track cars I've seen, very nice paint, great parts.

[GregWeld]

Thanks Jody -- I saw the car at Charleys this summer... and you're right -- the paint is like show quality. He doesn't know it yet, but I stole it from him! HAHAHAHA


Now if I just knew how to drive.... but we digress... As Charley just told me "everyone started as a beginner". Pretty true statement.

[camcojb]

Thanks Jody -- I saw the car at Charleys this summer... and you're right -- the paint is like show quality. He doesn't know it yet, but I stole it from him! HAHAHAHA


Now if I just knew how to drive.... but we digress... As Charley just told me "everyone started as a beginner". Pretty true statement.

read my reply here:

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?p=372784#post372784

my guess is after a couple events you'll be big time hooked on track stuff!

[ccracin]

Scott -- No I can't....

I'm a hot rodder not a track guy.

It's still Hot Rodding buddy! You are going to have a blast! I'm jealous! :cheers:

[GregWeld]

It's still Hot Rodding buddy! You are going to have a blast! I'm jealous! :cheers:

Don't be ==== just come out and show me how to drive it!!


EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA

[Lenie]

ATTABABY Greg :thumbsup:

[Stuart Adams]

Great buy. Make him fill the tank up too..

[Flash68]

Weld you dirty dog! Congrats. Hope he threw in a booster seat. :lateral:

[Rybar]

Congrats Greg, can't wait to see you wheel this thing. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Congrats Greg, can't wait to see you wheel this thing. :thumbsup:


Thanks! Just look for the BACK of the pack --- that's where you'll find me!

:rofl:

[GregWeld]

Weld you dirty dog! Congrats. Hope he threw in a booster seat. :lateral:



I just asked Charley if I could reach the pedals! If he and Jody can drive it -- it will need a minor remodel for me!

I figure.... lower the dash... lower the wheel.... scoot seat forward a foot.... and raise it... a 2X4 duct taped to the loud pedal...

[skatinjay27]

so are you gonna have it shipped home first or just straight to a shop to get a full re-do!!!!!!!!:lol:

[ccracin]

so are you gonna have it shipped home first or just straight to a shop to get a full re-do!!!!!!!!:lol:


Calling Rodger! :rofl:

[clill]

I just checked..The seat is very adjustable. You are absolutely going to love this car. I'm glad it went to somebody I know... Next thing Greg will have a big Renegade Toterhome at the track events we can all hang out in a trash....oh boy !!!

[Flash68]

Calling Rodger! :rofl:

Nah, send it up to SAR and see what they can do it. :D

[Track Junky]

Congrats on a great buy and great car!!:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

I just checked..The seat is very adjustable. You are absolutely going to love this car. I'm glad it went to somebody I know... Next thing Greg will have a big Renegade Toterhome at the track events we can all hang out in a trash....oh boy !!!



Shouldn't you guys all be "facebooking" or something..... :rofl:

[DOOM]

Greg............................ :wow: Your my hero bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are going to have a blast in this car!!!!

[GregWeld]

Greg............................ :wow: Your my hero bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are going to have a blast in this car!!!!

Just booked my first track event -- Northern California Shelby Club track event at Thunderhill end of next week! How's that for jumping all over it!!??

I promise I will NOT forget there is a TURN at 5..... I think it's called Stielow corner....

EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA


:woot:

[Bow Tie 67]

Greg, in case you have not done a track event yet. Prepared to be hooked! :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Greg, in case you have not done a track event yet. Prepared to be hooked! :thumbsup:

I've done the ZO6 experience (3 day) at Bondurant and the ZO6's at Spring Mountain... I totally get how addictive it is... and how much fun it is! I almost bought one of the fox body mustangs Bondurant was selling when they switched to Chevrolet - and have kicked myself ever since for passing that opportunity.

I think this is WAY too much car for me... but couldn't pass it up. I've seen it - and it's too nice not to grab! Now I'll just have to not embarrass myself more than I already have.....

I was looking at the safety requirements for the Northern California Shelby Club Thunderhill event... and noticed that I had to have cotton pants (long) in Yellow, Red and Green.... Also a long sleeve cotton shirt - same colors..... and a 4 point harness in Green....

Immediately I'm on the horn with Rodger Lee asking why I'd have to have a seat belt in Green - like WTF difference that would make?? And were was I going to find cotton pants in Yellow, Red and Green.... look like a GD Eyetallian flag out there! Sheesh!!!

Then I'm emailing Charley about the color of the harness.....

RING RING -- Cell phone is going.... belly laughter on the other end so I know it's Charley.... Calling me to tell me what a dumbass newb I am....

Rodger probably was going to call but he had to go home and get clean shorts.... he probably laughed so hard...

:rolleyes: :willy: :woot:

[Flash68]

Good for you Greg. You're just trying to get a leg up at Thunderhill in anticipation of a RTTx event there in 2012... good thinking. :unibrow:

. This car is sorted and trouble free, makes sound at Laguna Seca, show quality paint etc.

Hey, Charley says it's good to go for Laguna Seca -- come join us on Dec 31st down there... you don't party on NYE anymore anyway. :cheers:

[GregWeld]

Hey, Charley says it's good to go for Laguna Seca -- come join us on Dec 31st down there... you don't party on NYE anymore anyway. :cheers:


Thanks Dave!

As it looks now -- we'll be in Phoenix watching Adrienne's boyfriend play football (He's a Cardinal) on New Years day.... otherwise I'd consider it.

[camcojb]

I promise I will NOT forget there is a TURN at 5..... I think it's called Stielow corner....

EEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA


:woot:

If you're in third gear at that corner you're probably going too fast.................... :lol:

[clill]

I've done the ZO6 experience (3 day) at Bondurant and the ZO6's at Spring Mountain... I totally get how addictive it is... and how much fun it is! I almost bought one of the fox body mustangs Bondurant was selling when they switched to Chevrolet - and have kicked myself ever since for passing that opportunity.

I think this is WAY too much car for me... but couldn't pass it up. I've seen it - and it's too nice not to grab! Now I'll just have to not embarrass myself more than I already have.....

I was looking at the safety requirements for the Northern California Shelby Club Thunderhill event... and noticed that I had to have cotton pants (long) in Yellow, Red and Green.... Also a long sleeve cotton shirt - same colors..... and a 4 point harness in Green....

Immediately I'm on the horn with Rodger Lee asking why I'd have to have a seat belt in Green - like WTF difference that would make?? And were was I going to find cotton pants in Yellow, Red and Green.... look like a GD Eyetallian flag out there! Sheesh!!!

Then I'm emailing Charley about the color of the harness.....

RING RING -- Cell phone is going.... belly laughter on the other end so I know it's Charley.... Calling me to tell me what a dumbass newb I am....

Rodger probably was going to call but he had to go home and get clean shorts.... he probably laughed so hard...

:rolleyes: :willy: :woot:


Even my Wife is in hysterics..The green yellow red was the run groups...as in Yellow group has to have long pants...Green group has to have a 4 point harness...OMG you are going to be a handfull...

[ccracin]

Even my Wife is in hysterics..The green yellow red was the run groups...as in Yellow group has to have long pants...Green group has to have a 4 point harness...OMG you are going to be a handfull...

:rofl: You started this! This is going to be a fun ride! :hail:

[96z28ss]

When do I get my Weld Racing Crew member shirt!

1 question can you run historic events with this car or do they only allow the real cars with proven history?

[GregWeld]

It became historical the minute I bought it!


Weld Racing Redeux!



:rofl:

[clill]

No...Most historic events only allow cars with race history. The Shelby Club tends to let cars like this in at their big events and I wish they wouldn't. My Shelby still has drum rear brakes and Ford front disc etc. It can't keep up with the modern cars.

[ccracin]

It became historical the minute I bought it!

Didn't you mean Hysterical? :willy:

[mdprovee]

Great buy Greg, Both Laura and I want a ride in it.

[Matt@BOS]

Greg, you should come out to Bondurant again. I'm headed back at some point (I put a deposit down) and I was just thinking, what I wouldn't give to ride around in the drift car with you at the wheel :lol: . Then again, if you didn't go, I'd feel better knowing someone would be killing more cones on the autocross than me.

Matt

[GregWeld]

Didn't you mean Hysterical? :willy:

YES!! And I originally thought about putting that in.... but decided it was too obvious! LOL


Great buy Greg, Both Laura and I want a ride in it.


Really? Do you have a death wish?? :_paranoid Does Laura want to dump you? Did she say "you go first" or any words like that?? :lol:


Greg, you should come out to Bondurant again. I'm headed back at some point (I put a deposit down) and I was just thinking, what I wouldn't give to ride around in the drift car with you at the wheel :lol: . Then again, if you didn't go, I'd feel better knowing someone would be killing more cones on the autocross than me.

Matt


I'd go again in a heartbeat!! I learned SOOOOOO much! It's truly amazing what you THINK you know - then they start on you - and you realize you had no clue.... This is the best money anyone in the hobby can spend. Forget more go fast parts until you've done one of their driving schools... it's truly an OMG experience. So much fun and you learn so much at the same time.

I stayed at that 'casino' thing right there - Wild Horses or something like that. It's real close - cause when you're old like me - I was whooped at the end of the day. And DO NOT MISS a chance to do the SHIFTER CART CLASS... That is a whole 'nother kick!

[coolwelder62]

Charley,Can Greg aford a car like this.:D

Scott -- No I can't.... :unibrow:

I'm a hot rodder not a track guy.Greg,Did Charley set you up on a payment plan.You just finished that cool 32 so I would think money is a little tight right now.:lol: Have fun W/the new ride Bud.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

I took a third on the house -- and cashed in my 401K and my IRA and SEP... that all got me enough down payment that I could borrow the rest from my brother in law, and two other buddies. Hakuna matata is my motto! :cheers: :woot:

[ironworks]

I took a third on the house -- and cashed in my 401K and my IRA and SEP... that all got me enough down payment that I could borrow the rest from my brother in law, and two other buddies. Hakuna matata is my motto! :cheers: :woot:

Sounds like the American way.

[clill]

So in order to get Greg able to reach the pedals etc I am swapping out the seat. Anybody have a favorite ?

[GregWeld]

Sounds like the American way.

Don't even get me started!

:willy: :willy: :unibrow:

[coolwelder62]

I took a third on the house -- and cashed in my 401K and my IRA and SEP... that all got me enough down payment that I could borrow the rest from my brother in law, and two other buddies. Hakuna matata is my motto! :cheers: :woot:Greg,I have done the same thing,but also had too sell blood.Just not mine.:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Greg,I have done the same thing,but also had too sell blood.Just not mine.:thumbsup:


I hawked my wife back to my mother-in-law... and emptied the kids college savings accounts.... then I got a third full time job... oh -- and swapped Charley my apartment complex. Gawd I sure hope I like the car.... :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

So in order to get Greg able to reach the pedals etc I am swapping out the seat. Anybody have a favorite ?

Do I get a vote??

:rofl:


Personally I like the aerodynamic and light weight of the model (Porch chair?) shown in the car.... That way I could say I took the seats out of my "Porch"....

[coolwelder62]

I dont see one W/a cup holder. :lol:

[96z28ss]

So in order to get Greg able to reach the pedals etc I am swapping out the seat. Anybody have a favorite ?

Charley, your gonna have to switch the steering wheel with one that has the flat spot on the bottom, and get the seat just a tad bit closer. The seat might be to tall for him also, his legs might dangle.

[DemonSRT8]

Actually super funny. :lol:

I took a third on the house -- and cashed in my 401K and my IRA and SEP... that all got me enough down payment that I could borrow the rest from my brother in law, and two other buddies. Hakuna matata is my motto! :cheers: :woot:

[GregWeld]

I dont see one W/a cup holder. :lol:




Okay! That's a deal killer!!


:wow: :D

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I dont see one W/a cup holder. :lol:



Okay! That's a deal killer!!


:wow: :D

the second one does, now if it only comes in My little pony yellow.

http://books-coloring.com/images/my-little-pony-coloring-pages.jpg

[clill]

To match his yellow pants.

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Go back to bed! You're up way too early!

[clill]

Greg managed to survive his first track weekend in his new Mustang. I conned my friend Pete to being instructor since his car was broken...Sure enough they get black flagged first session because the instructor is riding around all session with his arm out the window and his hand on the roof.

[ccracin]

Greg managed to survive his first track weekend in his new Mustang. I conned my friend Pete to being instructor since his car was broken...Sure enough they get black flagged first session because the instructor is riding around all session with his arm out the window and his hand on the roof.

Great Pic Charlie! Looks like he is pulling some G's! Way to go Greg! :woot:

[96z28ss]

Greg managed to survive his first track weekend in his new Mustang. I conned my friend Pete to being instructor since his car was broken...Sure enough they get black flagged first session because the instructor is riding around all session with his arm out the window and his hand on the roof.

He was so scared with Greg at the wheel, he was waiting for the best opportunity to jump out.

[GregWeld]

I suck but I sure had a good time!! Thank god Charley has some good friends. LOL

I was looking for some "improvement" and I found some. Not enough... But some! I did discover there's fresh dirt at Stielow Corner on Sunday!

[Rybar]

If Lateral-G gets a one car vote in this year again at the Optima event, GW and his new stang gets my vote!! :thumbsup:

[Jr]

I suck but I sure had a good time!! Thank god Charley has some good friends. LOL

I was looking for some "improvement" and I found some. Not enough... But some! I did discover there's fresh dirt at Stielow Corner on Sunday!

Greg,

Are you hooked? Will we see you driving the yellow mustang at the next RTTC?

[Stuart Adams]

Need more pics than that.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Driver and car lookin' good Greg. :thumbsup:

[clill]

He even has in car video of him spinning at turn 9.

[GregWeld]

If Lateral-G gets a one car vote in this year again at the Optima event, GW and his new stang gets my vote!! :thumbsup:



Thanks for the kind words but OPTIMA Battery calls their event OUSCI....
"Optima Ulitmate STREET CAR Invitational".

Happily, this Mustang is as far from a street car as one could get.... no interior - no headlights - it drives like a truck until you get to about 50 MPH... runs 110 gas only.... no wipers - plexiglass windshield and rear window... no windows or guts in the doors... :willy: :rofl: :woot: :woot: It's just the way I like it!

[GregWeld]

Greg,

Are you hooked? Will we see you driving the yellow mustang at the next RTTC?


If I'm driving --- who's going to keep all your times???!!!!!


No auto x'n in this car -- it's a road racer and I'm not changing it to do anything else! Well -- maybe I need one of those "stick you bitch" bumper stickers! Do they help??? :D

[GregWeld]

He even has in car video of him spinning at turn 9.



Only posted the spinout video so far --

You can see it by going to "Contour.com" --- and search for "Weld @ Thunderhill" === Have diapers in case you p yourself laughing. :wow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Here ya go...

http://contour.com/stories/weld-thunderhill

[camcojb]

great video Greg. :D

http://contour.com/stories/weld-thunderhill

[clill]

Greg...It is not a Shelby...just a Mustang tat looks kinds like one.

[Flash68]

Greg...It is not a Shelby...just a Mustang tat looks kinds like one.

I smell a post-sale discount inquiry.... :_paranoid

[GregWeld]

Greg...It is not a Shelby...just a Mustang tat looks kinds like one.

Oh sure..... now you tell me..... :D

[camcojb]

Oh sure..... now you tell me..... :Dbut isn't it fun to drive? :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

but isn't it fun to drive? :unibrow:


Oh yeah buddy!


Here's a second post of a shortened video with A LOT better line, and speeds... from the second day. I'm running Yellow group (Novice) and the first two laps are warm up.... Figure 2:30ish per lap so faster laps (2:15's Charley said) start at 5 minutes into this video if you want to just forward to that point. GPS data is missing from this video because of posting it to YouTube instead of the Contour website... I have yet to figure out how to shorten (edit) the video before posting to the Contour site so chose the YouTube format because this video had 15 minutes of sitting in the staging lane!). Final laps showed top speeds of 112 to as high as 117 going into turns 1 and 14.

CHARLEY -- Note the corrected moniker! :yes:


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[70rs]

Great videos Greg, looks like a lot of fun!

[clill]

That is the track we need to have a Pro-Touring event at. Great track for a novice to get their feet wet. Watch the video and see all the runoff room if you do something stupid.

[Flash68]

Greg, that Bondurant school paid off eh? Not too shabby out there... great improvement. Musta felt great! :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Greg, that Bondurant school paid off eh? Not too shabby out there... great improvement. Musta felt great! :thumbsup:

I've done two schools -- Bondurant -- and Spring Mountain Motorsports (Pahrump).... Bondurant teaches you far far more.... they get my 100% vote.
Spring Mountain is more track time - but less "learning". Also less $$ but you get what you pay for.

IMHO -- ANYONE wanting to drive this stuff -- should spend less on parts and more on lessons.... THEN buy parts...

I SUCK.... but I can and will get better. That is the fun of it.

RE: Improvement

#1 had to learn Jerico tranny

#2 had to remember to breathe

#3 had to remember to think

#4 had to remember to LOOK AHEAD

#5 had to SLOW DOWN to drive faster

#6 remember to bring extra shorts

#7 remember to not let Charley see you screw up....

:woot:

[Vegas69]

Looking good, should've bought a real car. A Camaro of course.:lol:

[mdprovee]

Greg, looks like you had some fun, that is the important thing. Was going to try and get up there to see you, but unfortunately didnt make it.

Congrats on your purchase.

[GregWeld]

Greg, looks like you had some fun, that is the important thing. Was going to try and get up there to see you, but unfortunately didnt make it.

Congrats on your purchase.

Just got home at 6 tonight - had a stop over in Portland -- and had TWO blow outs on the trailer.... only had one spare -- changed the spare on first blow out -- 40 miles later = Kabloooie! Another blow out! Now I have to drop the trailer on the freeway -- and take the two blowouts and get two new tires. Lucky for me - I was just shy of exit #60 and the tire shop was just behind me at exit #57. And the guy just happened to have ONLY TWO my size. My favorite saying "better lucky than smart" -- once again worked for me!

Sorry I couldn't work out having dinner with you and Laura... the timing just didn't fit this time. The '32 is at Brizios -- so unless I talk Charley into fetching it for me --- I'll have to come back down "shortly". :cheers:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

trailer tires seem to do that to you when you least expect it....oh and remember when charley tells you to "go out and hit the pace car" shake your head and just ignore him. LOL

[GregWeld]

trailer tires seem to do that to you when you least expect it....oh and remember when charley tells you to "go out and hit the pace car" shake your head and just ignore him. LOL

Vince --- The tires on the trailer have lots and lots of tread (and were made in '08 so they're not old).... but on both tires the entire tread came off like they were retreads (they're not!). I check the pressure before every haul and usually during a haul... they had 80 #'s which is the max rating for the tire. The remaining tires - including the spare - will be replaced this week with Goodyears to match the two I bought. Funny - the Goodyears max is 65 #'s...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


I got in trouble with the race steward a couple of time during the weekend... and Charley warned me that I would! They had to remind me - nicely - that I was in YELLOW PANTS GROUP.... in one session I was "making people nervous".... Okay -- I get that.... some of these guys/gals were on track doing about 40 in the straights... Here I come around the corner and its "punch it! I know the road"! (LOL).... and I go flying by them WOT.... I needed to "tip toe" around them... My bad! I forgot I was on a track... you know - for race cars.... BUT they were RIGHT..... I was still in the YELLOW PANTS and GREEN HARNESS group...

^^^^^^ Not sure how I'd move up to Red group.... unless I could show that I can drive accordingly... and the Red group ain't doing 40 in the straights... And the steward did ask me to move up if I wanted to -- I just was having too much fun in Yellow because I had the track to myself a lot of the time... and could spend more time on the line - and braking - and shifting etc without "traffic".

My final session I did an off road at Stielow corner... all four in the dirt... Turn 5 sweeping right and is the down hill side of 5A which is an uphill hard left with a downhill blind right... After a dicing drive with an instructor in his late model Mustang... he came over to me at the beginning of this session and gave me some pointers about where I should place my tires on a couple of the turns to gain time... He wanted me to be more to the right side of the track on 5 after clipping 5A... (I was taking it more to the middle).... So I tried to come off 5A "straighter" to clip the curb on 5... EXCEPT I put the right front in the dirt.... which grabbed and brought the ass around and rather than spin - I straightened her up and just cut the corner rather than try to gather it up. They had actually talked about that in the driver meeting -- to not try to do any "heroics" once you're in the dirt.... and I remembered that -- and it worked... The dirt is very soft -- and once I felt the ass get loose - I just straightened it out and cut the corner - got back on track - slowed down - cleaned the tires around the next couple turns.... THEN I got black flagged (again)... and had to come in and explain myself and rightly so.

[Track Junky]

Keep in mind that the trailor tires will get hot during transit so they probably exceeded the 80 lbs if you put 80 lbs into them to start with.

Great job on the track btw!!

[Stuart Adams]

80 psi. Holy crap batman. That must have a had a eventful blowout. Did it damage the trailer fender?

[GregWeld]

Keep in mind that the trailor tires will get hot during transit so they probably exceeded the 80 lbs if you put 80 lbs into them to start with.

Great job on the track btw!!

80#'s is the COLD max tire pressure rating....

Thanks for the kudos -- I sure had fun!

[GregWeld]

80 psi. Holy crap batman. That must have a had a eventful blowout. Did it damage the trailer fender?


Ummmmmm..... it got my attention.... like a cannon going off! And I'm an internationally licensed pyro --- so I've heard my fair share of explosions!


This thread is worthless without pictures...... :D



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer%20blowout/IMG_1546.jpg

[GregWeld]

Just for clarity of the situation --- those tires have MANY MANY long distance trips -- as in Scottsdale and back to Seattle several times -- LA and back several times - So it isn't the air pressure that "suddenly" blew the tread off TWO tires on the same trip.... my guess it DELAMINATING.... since both tires suffered the exact "tread loss"....Neither tire blew out the sidewall....

Just FYI -- Load range "E" tires are 80# cold max pressure --- you can have the same size tire with a lower load range rating and it will have a lower max pressure.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer%20blowout/IMG_1541.jpg

[Stuart Adams]

You are a scream. Glad your safe.

[96z28ss]

lets move this out of the for sale section.
maybe race car section

[ccracin]

lets move this out of the for sale section.
maybe race car section

X2:thumbsup:

[camcojb]

lets move this out of the for sale section.
maybe race car section

been thinking about it for a while. Moved, and re-titled.

[GregWeld]

been thinking about it for a while. Moved, and re-titled.

Yep - Thanks Jody. As usual in any thread I post in - it gets jacked... :rofl:

All the threads - to me - are just like a bunch of guys hanging out in "the shed" - the conversations wind around just like a race track... I've shown that staying on track is difficult for me! HA!

[Jr]

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer%20blowout/IMG_1541.jpg

Why is the rear of the mustang louvered?

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To let the farts out.....

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I don't know Greg, looks like you've been doing donuts with the trailer again haven't you.

[GregWeld]

I found of video of Charley doing a track day.... One of these days I want to grow up and be just like him!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:




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[GregWeld]

I think it is right at 520 hp. I have the dyno sheet somewhere.



You were "close" Charley -- but the dyno sheet shows just a slightly elevated level of horses under the hood.... :unibrow:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/SCAN0005.jpg

[camcojb]

You were "close" Charley -- but the dyno sheet shows just a slightly elevated level of horses under the hood.... :unibrow:


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/SCAN0005.jpg

I think you owe him some more money.............. :lol:

[Vegas69]

Forty nine lbs of oil pressure at 7500 rpm. :_paranoid :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Forty nine lbs of oil pressure at 7500 rpm. :_paranoid :unibrow:

Yep --- rule is 10 #'s per 1000 rpms........

[Flash68]

That is a BEAST! What is the rev limiter set at?

[GregWeld]

Forty nine lbs of oil pressure at 7500 rpm. :_paranoid :unibrow:


Engine builder says 50 #'s is all we need -- and that with a roller cam and RedLine synthetic oil (straight 40wt) she's good to go....

I told him "my rule" which I learned along time ago re: 10#'s per 1000 rpms -- and he just laughed and said "yeah - but that's at what bearing clearances and blah blah blah...."

I'll take his word for it.

[clill]

Must be the car that I kept that is 520 hp...You owe me more dough. Now if we can just keep the Tasmanian Devil from killing himself before he learns how to handle that much car properly on the track. He has already spun it more time than I ever did.

[Vegas69]

I was just looking for a rise out of you and everybody else.:D My engine builder would agree. The whole 10lbs per thousand rpm is old news. That all started with Smokey Yunick way back when. I will say that your oil temp was only 205 and racing temps may net you less. I just switched to Red Line so I'm not sure how it's viscosity drops off from 205 to say 230-250 in oil temp. I know my Brad Penn partial synthetic dropped 10 psi from 210 oil temp to 230-250. I'm changing my oil cooler and oil for a reason. I'd take a look next time out to see if you should change to a 50 weight. I 'm running 15w-50. These race engine builder like to build them loose to cool the bearings. That baby is a high winding haas. :thumbsup:

[clill]

The engine builder actually helped Redline in the development of the 40wt oil. Tony Oddo is considered about as good as it gets out here in the West. They build everything from spec Winston west engines to most good long lasting vintage race engines. I would not change to 50wt.

[Vegas69]

It depends on oil temperature. Tony is happy with 50 but is he happy with 43 when it's 90 degrees out and oil temps rise? My point, monitor your SPECIFIC application and call your engine builder. They want to hear from you and THEY make the call. To many guys just wing it and it costs them. I know Weld has more money than Donald Trump but playing ring around the rosey with engines isn't my idea of a spring picnic.

[GregWeld]

I called the engine builder TWICE today ---- he probably has blocked my number now....

He told me to just run straight 40wt RedLine.... and that IF I was going to wing the motor to 7500 all the time that it should be looked at after 40 hours of engine time. I told him I was holding it to 6000 on the straight and he said - oh h*** you won't need to look at it for a long time then.

Charley made all the right choices when this was built - it's got Titanium valves, locks, and retainers... solid roller cam (.650 lift - 258*@.050 intake and 263*@.050 ext - 108 LSA)... it revs so quickly that you have to be a little careful on the gas pedal! I've had a few motors -- and this is my favorite. It's a rowdy little guy... and I love it.

:theresa:

[intocarss]

Congrats on your new toy....."Poverty is owning a race car" And it never felt soooooooo good to be poor Enjoy it!! :thumbsup:

BTW I used to buzz 8200 in my race car with 55-60# oil pressure. I run Red Line Race Weight 30 and she is still alive after 6 years

[Flash68]

I told him I was holding it to 6000 on the straight and he said - oh h*** you won't need to look at it for a long time then.



Well sh!t you don't even have 520 hp if you ain't revvin it past 6k! :D

[GregWeld]

That is a BEAST! What is the rev limiter set at?


It HAD an 8000 chip in the MSD box -- I changed it to 7000... :_paranoid

That tasmanian devil made me do it! :D

[GregWeld]

Congrats on your new toy....."Poverty is owning a race car" And it never felt soooooooo good to be poor Enjoy it!! :thumbsup:

BTW I used to buzz 8200 in my race car with 55-60# oil pressure. I run Red Line Race Weight 30 and she is still alive after 6 years


The amount of 110 I pumped in this thing over the weekend was amazing to me... And Charley has me ordering up a new Renegade toter home and stacker trailer... :unibrow:

Glad to hear you're motor is still going strong. I know that the old rule of thumb is/was just that... because it's one of those things that just all "depends". Clearances - temps - oil weight etc. As long as the builder is fine with that pressure I can sleep with it.

[NOT A TA]

When I first saw the for sale post I thought "Ya, Greg SHOULD buy this car." Now the thread title's changed and I realize you've already bought it and had it out on track! NICE!!

[GregWeld]

When I first saw the for sale post I thought "Ya, Greg SHOULD buy this car." Now the thread title's changed and I realize you've already bought it and had it out on track! NICE!!

Yeah buddy! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :lol:

[intocarss]

The amount of 110 I pumped in this thing over the weekend was amazing to me... And Charley has me ordering up a new Renegade toter home and stacker trailer... :unibrow:



Golf cart included???

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^ Funny! I was thinking a Schwinn with ape hangers and banana seat!



Found the weight & balance paperwork for the car.... 3015 lbs.... so HP to weight ratio is pretty good.

[camcojb]

^^^^^^^^^^^ Funny! I was thinking a Schwin with ape hangers and banana seat!



Found the weight & balance paperwork for the car.... 3015 lbs.... so HP to weight ratio is pretty good.

here 'ya go..........

http://www.camcojb.com/temp/schwinn%20002.jpg

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That thing have a Jerico in it?? Way Kool!!

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/flexy.jpg

[Jay Hilliard]

awesome Greg. Congrats on the new toy. Glad you are having fun. You will be changing out the 7000 chip before you know it.

[GregWeld]

awesome Greg. Congrats on the new toy. Glad you are having fun. You will be changing out the 7000 chip before you know it.


Thanks Jay!

As Charley pointed out to me several times during the weekend -- "if you want them to last a little while.... you can't run 'em like a race car" or some such sage words of advice.

These are just "track days" -- and you really have to get your head into that versus "all out race I want to win at any cost"....

Having said that -- it's darn hard not to want to drive 'em a little faster - brake a little later - corner a little harder... It's that dang Tasmanian Devil on your shoulder! :D

[Sieg]

Glad to see you picked it up Greg.

Hopefully you have plans to take her to Oregon Raceway Park.

Impressive dyno sheet! Charlie did a darn good job of under-promise over-deliver. Nice to see him taking care of those less fortunate. :rofl:

[GrabberGT]

I love to get the details on this little motor? I guess you could say Im window shopping for a new powerplant.

[GregWeld]

I love to get the details on this little motor? I guess you could say Im window shopping for a new powerplant.

Basics that I know about...

Ford 302R block (racing block)
Eagle forged crank
J&E 12.5:1 forged pistons
Oliver rods
Edelbrock Victor/Mark Chapman heads
Titanium valves - locks - retainers
Solid roller cam - .650 lift... 258/[email protected] - 108 LSA
Victor intake/holley carb
Bored and Stroked to 355"

My SBC 408 - has a very light rotating assembly (Honda rod journal size - Gun Drilled Crank) and rev's smoking fast.... but this little SBF rev's faster than anything I've ever owned.

[clill]

You also have a set of custom tuned stainless headers that were over 5K.

[Flash68]

Basics that I know about...

Ford 302R block (racing block)
Eagle forged crank
J&E 12.5:1 forged pistons
Oliver rods
Edelbrock Victor/Mark Chapman heads
Titanium valves - locks - retainers
Solid roller cam - .650 lift... 258/[email protected] - 108 LSA
Victor intake/holley carb
Bored and Stroked to 355"

My SBC 408 - has a very light rotating assembly (Honda rod journal size - Gun Drilled Crank) and rev's smoking fast.... but this little SBF rev's faster than anything I've ever owned.

Killer setup. Wonder what the bore / stroke is? Charley?

[GregWeld]

You also have a set of custom tuned stainless headers that were over 5K.


I've paid you enough.... :rofl: :woot:

[GregWeld]

Killer setup. Wonder what the bore / stroke is? Charley?

Sorry -- forgot to post that....

Bore is 4.082"

Stroke is 3.40"

Oliver rod is 5.400"

[Flash68]

wow didn't think I'd be envious of a shorter stroke around here. :D

[GregWeld]

wow didn't think I'd be envious of a shorter stroke around here. :D


Yeah -- When Tony Jr. gave me that number on the phone -- I had to swallow and ask again... thinking I heard wrong. Kind of explains that quick rev I like so much.... well... that and maybe some help from 12:5 CR... and a little 110 octane... :hail: :hail:

[Vegas69]

Kinda makes sense that Weld would have the shortest stroke....:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[GregWeld]

Kinda makes sense that Weld would have the shortest stroke....:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



Ouch.....:captain:

[GrabberGT]

Basics that I know about...

Ford 302R block (racing block)
Eagle forged crank
J&E 12.5:1 forged pistons
Oliver rods
Edelbrock Victor/Mark Chapman heads
Titanium valves - locks - retainers
Solid roller cam - .650 lift... 258/[email protected] - 108 LSA
Victor intake/holley carb
Bored and Stroked to 355"

My SBC 408 - has a very light rotating assembly (Honda rod journal size - Gun Drilled Crank) and rev's smoking fast.... but this little SBF rev's faster than anything I've ever owned.

Nice!

Any idea what the output numbers look like?

[clill]

Go back a page.

[ccracin]

Ouch.....:captain:

C'mon Greg, you're slipping. Don't take that. Short stroke, LONG ROD! That's the proper response. :unibrow:

Disclaimer: I have no knowledge of the truth or validity of my above comment. Just trying to help a brother out! :_paranoid

[GrabberGT]

Go back a page.

I somehow skipped that page.

498/590. Impressive. I may have to store this as a recipe for a later build.

[GregWeld]

C'mon Greg, you're slipping. Don't take that. Short stroke, LONG ROD!



Is that a "thread jack"??
:woot:

[GregWeld]

I somehow skipped that page.

498/590. Impressive. I may have to store this as a recipe for a later build.


Yeah -- remember that's 12:5 compression and RACE GAS ONLY..... it ain't no street motor.

[Flash68]

Kinda makes sense that Weld would have the shortest stroke....:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I didn't think YOU'D be the one to take that bait and run with it... :lateral:

Is that a "thread jack"??
:woot:

Ewwwww Greg! LOL

[Jack Maurer]

Why is the rear of the mustang louvered?

I had the pleasure of building this car; the loovers were done to reduce drag.

[syborg tt]

I had the pleasure of building this car; the loovers were done to reduce drag.

Jack all I can see is nice work and I love this car.

[GregWeld]

I had the pleasure of building this car; the loovers were done to reduce drag.


You had the pleasure and you did one heck of a great job!

I L O V E the car!

Can you PM me --- or email me so we can chat a little on some of the details and history etc??

Charley has my email... or you can use the members thing here to contact me directly.

[Jack Maurer]

call me anytime 949 485-8619 or email at [email protected].
I gave Charlie all the invoices and build information, but I can give you the full history and sources for the entire build; somewhere I have the title, which I will certainly give to you.

[GregWeld]

Thanks Jack --- I will touch base after I get home from SEMA....:cheers:

[73CPCAMARO]

Greg,

I just found this thread and have read it all tonight. Great purchase! Have fun with it. Maybe next year I will come up with a few friends and meet up with you at Thunderhill. I ran that track for the first time a few months ago and I loved it.

Brian

[Flash68]

Greg,

I just found this thread and have read it all tonight. Great purchase! Have fun with it. Maybe next year I will come up with a few friends and meet up with you at Thunderhill. I ran that track for the first time a few months ago and I loved it.

Brian

I already asked Greg if he was free, and he is not, but I am headed to Thunderhill Jan 23 if you wanted to meet up Brian. It's with NCRC. I plan on getting to know that track a bit in 2012. :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

If it doesn't rain I should be there also. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Greg,

I just found this thread and have read it all tonight. Great purchase! Have fun with it. Maybe next year I will come up with a few friends and meet up with you at Thunderhill. I ran that track for the first time a few months ago and I loved it.

Brian


Hey Brian --- I'd love to follow you around the track any time!

The car is a hoot! I got better and better as the event went on -- and started to pay attention to the line - and all the things you FORGET when you first get in the car...

I signed Gwen (wife) up for driving school @ Bondurant for our 32nd anniversary gift (Tomorrow)... and myself for their Grand Prix school. That should help me pick up my lap times. Remember when I asked you what times you ran? You were way faster on 200 tw tires than I was on Hosier R6's! So I have some learning to do (and some seat time)! :rofl: :wow:

[73CPCAMARO]

I already asked Greg if he was free, and he is not, but I am headed to Thunderhill Jan 23 if you wanted to meet up Brian. It's with NCRC. I plan on getting to know that track a bit in 2012. :thumbsup:

I will be at Disneyland with the family that weekend. Please let me know the next one you do.

Brian

[73CPCAMARO]

Hey Brian --- I'd love to follow you around the track any time!

The car is a hoot! I got better and better as the event went on -- and started to pay attention to the line - and all the things you FORGET when you first get in the car...

I signed Gwen (wife) up for driving school @ Bondurant for our 32nd anniversary gift (Tomorrow)... and myself for their Grand Prix school. That should help me pick up my lap times. Remember when I asked you what times you ran? You were way faster on 200 tw tires than I was on Hosier R6's! So I have some learning to do (and some seat time)! :rofl: :wow:

Once you are comfortable with the track and car, you will right there. I have been to Thunderhill only once, and I am eager to go back. I hope to go a few times in 2012 and see you there.

[Sieg]

Hey Brian --- I'd love to follow you around the track any time!

The car is a hoot! I got better and better as the event went on -- and started to pay attention to the line - and all the things you FORGET when you first get in the car...

I signed Gwen (wife) up for driving school @ Bondurant for our 32nd anniversary gift (Tomorrow)... and myself for their Grand Prix school. That should help me pick up my lap times. Remember when I asked you what times you ran? You were way faster on 200 tw tires than I was on Hosier R6's! So I have some learning to do (and some seat time)! :rofl: :wow:

Greg - Hopefully Brian will be nice and run a pace that allows you to learn the lines. :D

What really helped me the first time at T-Hill was the five of us taking an evening track walk discussing lines, braking and acceleration references.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/28300_1361470528485_1583241569_857348_1223696_n.jp g

[GregWeld]

Well I L O V E Thunderhill.... the track is just a hoot to drive.

Dave -- What event is Jan 23rd?? I need to move the car and trailer down closer to Texas - and that might be just the excuse I need to spot it a few hundred miles closer... LOL

Charley was going to offer me FREE INDOOR PARKING - forever - in one of his giant buildings.... :woot: :rofl:

[Flash68]

Dave -- What event is Jan 23rd?? I need to move the car and trailer down closer to Texas - and that might be just the excuse I need to spot it a few hundred miles closer... LOL



Do it Greg... it's right here and registration still wide open. :thumbsup:

http://www.ncracing.org/events.php

[Lenie]

Do it Greg... it's right here and registration still wide open. :thumbsup:

http://www.ncracing.org/events.php

Greg, I'm thinking we could take that car out for a spin here on the open roads this weekend and try our hand at DRIFTING in this weather!!!!!!!!:rofl:

[GregWeld]

I did an exhaust on my sons new S4 -- so the Mustang and the Camaro had to come out of the shed and go up to the other garage... and YOU KNOW I couldn't resist taking her just a little "further".... Took Pierre with me -- he's still cleaning himself up... :lol: ZERO traction even though the ground was dry.... Worn out slicks that are stone cold have absolutely no grip. Just roll into 2nd gear at 30 MPH and it just lights 'em up. Put it away before the neighbors flooded the 911 line with calls.

[GregWeld]

Let's go racin' !!!




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/IMG_1783.jpg

[Track Junky]

Sweeeeeet!! Looks like some new Hoo Hoo's.

Where might we be headed with those bad boys?

[Sieg]

You need to tidy that place up a bit........leaving un-used rubbers in plain sight? Seriously!

[Ron in SoCal]

Sweeeeeet!! Looks like some new Hoo Hoo's.

Where might we be headed with those bad boys?

Two sets. no less! Good times....:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Sweeeeeet!! Looks like some new Hoo Hoo's.

Where might we be headed with those bad boys?


First up is RTTA in Texass.... Then RTTC...

++++++++++++++++++


I just wanted to have a spare set of wheels with tires mounted and ready to go... and the ones Charley sold me (on the car) were used up during the weekend at Thunderhill... so needed to replace the ones on the car.

++++++++++++++++++


Sieg! Good one!!

[Track Junky]

Awesome!! Hope one of those sets are A6's for the RTTX events. They'll heat up quicker.

[GregWeld]

All R6's -- this car will NEVER see an auto x course.... Road courses only. Auto X holds absolutely ZERO interest for me. Nothing wrong with those guys that like it - but I'm not interested in 30 seconds of seat time.

Going to the RTT"X" events is just a "trip" for me.... I'll work the events should they need/want me to - and hopefully get a couple laps around the big track for my efforts.

[Vegas69]

All R6's -- this car will NEVER see an auto x course.... Road courses only. Auto X holds absolutely ZERO interest for me. Nothing wrong with those guys that like it - but I'm not interested in 30 seconds of seat time.

Going to the RTT"X" events is just a "trip" for me.... I'll work the events should they need/want me to - and hopefully get a couple laps around the big track for my efforts.

Listen to this guy.:lol: Autocross is my least favorite but still fun. You should definitely run the speed stop challenge. That's a blast.

[Flash68]

Let's go racin' !!!




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/IMG_1783.jpg

8 new slicks for Azzhole's Garage! :lol:

Listen to this guy.:lol: Autocross is my least favorite but still fun. You should definitely run the speed stop challenge. That's a blast.

Speed stop? Shiiiiit, can we involve a steering wheel please? :D

[clill]

Sweet.

[Stuart Adams]

I figured you would at least have a big flat screen TV instead of that boat anchor up in the corner.

[monza]

I haven't checked in for a while and this is my first thread to read,
dude you rule!! That looks like a fun car.

[Track Junky]

Listen to this guy.:lol: Autocross is my least favorite but still fun. You should definitely run the speed stop challenge. That's a blast.

Speed stop? Shiiiiit, can we involve a steering wheel please? :D

I'm pretty sure Todd's trying to reel Greg in on this one. :yes:

Nothing rolls better than a flat spotted Hoosier :lol:

Those tires are probably good for about 10 heat cycles before its time for a new set. It will take at least two laps before they've got enough heat in them to do their job.

[Sieg]

Those tires are probably good for about 10 heat cycles before its time for a new set. It will take at least two laps before they've got enough heat in them to do their job.You don't think G'dub will get electric blankies to keep them cozy and warm?

[Track Junky]

You don't think G'dub will get electric blankies to keep them cozy and warm?

God knows he could afford them

[GregWeld]

God knows he could afford them



Just slap the plastic down and let 'er rip!



I did spend part of the day today looking at Renegade and Ikon Toter homes, stackers, and motor coaches at Sport Trucks in Chandler, AZ... :willy: :lol:

[GregWeld]

I figured you would at least have a big flat screen TV instead of that boat anchor up in the corner.

Flat screen is upstairs -- can't have that kind of crap down on the working floor! That "thing" you're looking at is an aluminum radiator "on end" that is a leaker... ( I don't do business with BeCool after the third times a charm routine). The boat anchor is outside the shop (for real)... I figured I might need a big heavy chunk of galvanized steel for something one day. Anything that doesn't rust - is outside "da shed".

[GregWeld]

I haven't checked for a while and this is my first thread to read,
dude you rule!! That looks like a fun car.


When Charley is driving it - it's a "fun car" -- when I'm driving it - it's a helicopter rotor. :D

[Sieg]

I did spend part of the day today looking at Renegade and Ikon Toter homes, stackers, and motor coaches at Sport Trucks in Chandler, AZ... :willy: :lol:

There ya go! I'll betcha they'd through in a set of tire warmers with a coach purchase. :unibrow:

I like the way you're sneaking up on those tire warmers.......buy a coach because it has a generator to run the warmers and a place to store them. :hail:

Can't wait to see how you acquire the 4-point jack system. :rofl:

[Lenie]

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=32273&d=1318857771

Build 100K?
Motor 25K?
To sit in it and drive through the streets of downtown Bellevue and watch peoples faces....Priceless.

Love the sound this car puts out:woot: :lateral:

[Track Junky]

Who's the guy with his arm out the window? That's a big no no :lol:

Thanks for posting the pic tho, I was about to go back a few pages to see what she looked like again but you saved me the trip.

[clill]

That is my idiot friend Pete. Pete is a instructor with a SCCA comp license. He didn't even realize he had his arm out the window and didn't even see the black flags....:lol:

[GregWeld]

Drugs will do that to a guy......


:lol:

[clill]

Pete is kinda smart some of the time.

http://biosci3.ucdavis.edu/FacultyAndResearch/FacultyProfile.aspx?FacultyID=14046

[GregWeld]

Not to mention FUN and INTERESTING and he can take a joke and dish one out. :thumbsup:

[Stuart Adams]

Glad to see you enjoying the car. Having the trans.in their makes it a kick I'll bet.

[Sieg]

Greg - If you get a chance it would be nice to see some more detail photo's of your track pony.

[Track Junky]

Pete is kinda smart some of the time.

http://biosci3.ucdavis.edu/FacultyAndResearch/FacultyProfile.aspx?FacultyID=14046

Kinda??? Thats one hell of a resume!! :thumbsup:

Greg - If you get a chance it would be nice to see some more detail photo's of your track pony.

Couldn't agree more!!

C'mon Greg, lets see some more pic's!!

[GregWeld]

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=32273&d=1318857771

Build 100K?
Motor 25K?
To sit in it and drive through the streets of downtown Bellevue and watch peoples faces....Priceless.

Love the sound this car puts out:woot: :lateral:


Glad you stopped by to check it out Lenie!

Now... If I could just finish up that danged Camaro I could get the oil and tires changed and get her ready for RTTA...

[intocarss]

When Charley is driving it - it's a "fun car" -- when I'm driving it - it's a helicopter rotor. :D

I just laughed so hard I broke a rib :willy:

[Flash68]

Since you're taking this mean little biatch to Thunderhill in less than 2 weeks you might as well watch this guy's line now that you're Bondurant trained and all.... :unibrow:

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

ahhh if you run that line with no wing you'll end up in down town Willows most likely upside down. LOL

[GregWeld]

Why would he run A6's on a road course?

[Track Junky]

Why would he run A6's on a road course?

The faster Time Trial guys run A6'6 because they heat up faster and dont need to run the whole session to achieve the fastest lap times. They say A6's could be up tp 2 seconds faster than R6's due to the softer compound but they wont last the whole 20 minute session.

[GregWeld]

Okay -- that makes sense! Expensive - but makes sense!

I've experienced the cold tire/cold track lack of grip!

If you're going out for the first time -- how long do you give your tires to get some heat in them?

[Vegas69]

They don't call them superman tires for nothing. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

ahhh if you run that line with no wing you'll end up in down town Willows most likely upside down. LOL



I noticed how much downforce the wings add while driving the Formula Mazdas at Bondurant... IF you keep your speed up going thru a corner they were noticeable... the guys I was on track with couldn't figure that out...

[GregWeld]

No slow Camaro parking.....:lol:



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/IMG_1531.jpg

[Track Junky]

Okay -- that makes sense! Expensive - but makes sense!

I've experienced the cold tire/cold track lack of grip!

If you're going out for the first time -- how long do you give your tires to get some heat in them?

What tires? When I was behind guys with A6's within half a lap they were gone. Not sure about R6's. My 100 read wear feel best after about a lap and a half.

[Track Junky]

No slow Camaro parking.....:lol:



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/IMG_1531.jpg

You are seriously tempting me to show up at the end of the month :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

At Bondurant -- they told us that all the weaving back and forth was just a big waste of time... and that just rolling into the corners and the on and off the gas would heat the tires faster. I don't know if they just made that up or not - but they're all race car guys.

[Track Junky]

Not sure I agree with that. Cold tires roll over when your weaving and you heat the outside edges quicker. I dont weave to heat tires very often if at all just thought I'd comment.

So both you and your wife are going to drive your car at T-Hill?

[Sieg]

Not sure I agree with that. Cold tires roll over when your weaving and you heat the outside edges quicker. I dont weave to heat tires very often if at all just thought I'd comment.

So both you and your wife are going to drive your car at T-Hill?
From a motorcyclist's track day experience most organizers strongly restrict weaving. More crashes than heat gain is one and probably the primary reason. They say acceleration and braking will gain more heat than weaving.

BUT........we see most the big boys on TV weaving, especially F1. IMO - Any time you can create friction and carcass flex you're building heat. The key is doing safely.

At track days on the bikes I take it easy the first half lap and gradually ramp up the pace the next 1.5 laps, then it's as hard as I feel capable of pushing that session or day given the ambient and track temps. I run sticky DOT's and don't use warmers.

I can't remember the race but there was an F1 celebrity that lost it in the warm-up lap building heat in the tyres and took himself out of the race not too many years ago. :D

[Ron in SoCal]

I can't remember the race but there was an F1 celebrity that lost it in the warm-up lap building heat in the tyres and took himself out of the race not too many years ago. :D

Good friend of mine did exactly that at Indy on the first lap. Lost his ride before the next race.

[GregWeld]

From a motorcyclist's track day experience most organizers strongly restrict weaving. More crashes than heat gain is one and probably the primary reason. They say acceleration and braking will gain more heat than weaving.

BUT........we see most the big boys on TV weaving, especially F1. IMO - Any time you can create friction and carcass flex you're building heat. The key is doing safely.

At track days on the bikes I take it easy the first half lap and gradually ramp up the pace the next 1.5 laps, then it's as hard as I feel capable of pushing that session or day given the ambient and track temps. I run sticky DOT's and don't use warmers.

I can't remember the race but there was an F1 celebrity that lost it in the warm-up lap building heat in the tyres and took himself out of the race not too many years ago. :D

THAT is exactly why they told us not to weave! They said they have more wrecks from that than anything.... And that - as you stated - just accelerate and brake and the heat will come quickly.

[GregWeld]

Not sure I agree with that. Cold tires roll over when your weaving and you heat the outside edges quicker. I dont weave to heat tires very often if at all just thought I'd comment.

So both you and your wife are going to drive your car at T-Hill?



Yes -- Gwen is scheduled for instructor ride along and I hope the car doesn't scare the crap out of her. It'll be quite a bit different than a stock SS Camaro...
The Mustang is "race car rough" and loud... and pretty powerful and rev's quite quickly... as in instantly. But it's fun to drive and I hope she likes the difference from a street car.

She's missing the DNA of "visor down, race on" so she should be fine.

[Sieg]

Good friend of mine did exactly that at Indy on the first lap. Lost his ride before the next race.

DOH! http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums/images/smilies/confused58.gif

[Track Junky]

Yes -- Gwen is scheduled for instructor ride along and I hope the car doesn't scare the crap out of her. It'll be quite a bit different than a stock SS Camaro...
The Mustang is "race car rough" and loud... and pretty powerful and rev's quite quickly... as in instantly. But it's fun to drive and I hope she likes the difference from a street car.

She's missing the DNA of "visor down, race on" so she should be fine.

If my wife was about to drive my car with a Jerico transmission at the track I'd bring a spare. :yes:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Hey Greg, Did Charley build another Fastback??

[GregWeld]

Hey Greg, Did Charley build another Fastback??

No --- That would be a REAL '66 R Code B Production Champion.... Mine is the clone.

[clill]

It's not a R model, just a 66 Shelby GT350 that has been a race car is entire life. Mid America B production Champion and New York State B production Champion in the for several years in the mid 70's. Fun car but still has drum brakes on the rear, manual steering etc.

[GregWeld]

It's not a R model, just a 66 Shelby GT350 that has been a race car is entire life. Mid America B production Champion and New York State B production Champion in the for several years in the mid 70's. Fun car but still has drum brakes on the rear, manual steering etc.


Oops -- Sorry I lied.


So did you sign up for Buttonwillow? I can stop on my way down and we can take the '66 and a Busch car....

[GregWeld]

If my wife was about to drive my car with a Jerico transmission at the track I'd bring a spare. :yes:



My buddy Bruce Leven has warned me about Jericos... and that they don't like "deceleration stresses". He's a fan of the Tex transmissions which he runs in his personal vintage race cars.

You can google Bruce Leven - Bayside Disposal Motorsports if you think he doesn't know what he's talking about... :unibrow:

[Track Junky]

My buddy Bruce Leven has warned me about Jericos... and that they don't like "deceleration stresses". He's a fan of the Tex transmissions which he runs in his personal vintage race cars.

You can google Bruce Leven - Bayside Disposal Motorsports if you think he doesn't know what he's talking about... :unibrow:


Thanks for the info. I really like my Spec 25 M-22 bit if I ever go dog ring maybe I'll give him a jingle.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

It's not a R model, just a 66 Shelby GT350 that has been a race car is entire life. Mid America B production Champion and New York State B production Champion in the for several years in the mid 70's. Fun car but still has drum brakes on the rear, manual steering etc.

wow, nice car. thank you.

[Flash68]

He's a fan of the Tex transmissions which he runs in his personal vintage race cars.



I like reading this. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

I like reading this. :thumbsup:



Isn't that why you have little Susie Q? To read to you?



:woot:

[Flash68]

Isn't that why you have little Susie Q? To read to you?



:woot:

Yep! ..and like you said... it's all about marrying well. She is an attorney after all. She gets to deal with my plethora of legal matters. :lol:

[Fluid Power]

My buddy Bruce Leven has warned me about Jericos... and that they don't like "deceleration stresses". He's a fan of the Tex transmissions which he runs in his personal vintage race cars.

You can google Bruce Leven - Bayside Disposal Motorsports if you think he doesn't know what he's talking about... :unibrow:


Mr: "Trash is Cash"!

My buddy is building a car for Bruce. Really neat vintage hot rod stuff.

I saw pictures of Bruce's garage. Wholly Smokes!

[GregWeld]

Mr: "Trash is Cash"!

My buddy is building a car for Bruce. Really neat vintage hot rod stuff.

I saw pictures of Bruce's garage. Wholly Smokes!



Normally he's having 2 or 3 or 4 built at the same time... it never stops...

[Fluid Power]

Normally he's having 2 or 3 or 4 built at the same time... it never stops...

ask him about Jeff Eischen. They worked together back in Bruce's racing days. Jeff isn't really a car builder per say. He was a partner in an Indy car team back in the day and an incredible fabricator. His attention to detail is insane. He builds one car a year and they have all been for himself except this one for Bruce.

Here is a link to a couple of cars he built out of his shop..

http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/jeffeischen
http://www.streetrodderweb.com/features/0802sr_jeff_eischens_homebuilt_model_a_tub/index.html

Darren

[Flash68]

Now THIS is how you maneuver Thunderhill in a muscle car.

yT7AADEXgGE

[GregWeld]

Good find Dave --- watched it a couple times and picked up a couple line changes!

I wish they ran turn 5 so I could watch him there instead of the bypass...

[carbuff]

Can someone tell me what software was used to overlay the graphics on that video? That is pretty cool!

[Flash68]

Good find Dave --- watched it a couple times and picked up a couple line changes!

I wish they ran turn 5 so I could watch him there instead of the bypass...

Steven M (sik68) sent it to me. :thumbsup:

I think Gaetano said the bypass shaves 2 seconds on average?



Can someone tell me what software was used to overlay the graphics on that video? That is pretty cool!

Pretty sure that is a Traqmate system.

[carbuff]

Pretty sure that is a Traqmate system.

Looks like you're right, I found it listed on his website. That system looks really cool, but it is a bit pricey...

Thanx!

[GregWeld]

I found other posts with that car / racing team -- with them running turn 5....

I can tell you right now -- that Charley and his buddies that are very familiar with this track - are running good cars - and making 2:11's or so.... He timed me on one or two laps and got 2:15 and I know I was doing way better than that on Sunday afternoon... but when I see this guy ripping off 1:54's --- it's like OMG -- no way I'm to going to be running like that!

I was hoping to get into 2:08's or better.... and have my GTechPro Fanatic RR all set and ready to go to clock my times. I'm mostly going to set it up to record the splits so I can break down the track and try to improve in one or two spots per session... then finally put 'em all together and see what happens.

[Track Junky]

You have to remember Dave Brown has multi championships under his belt.

What really amazes me is that he's running a stock front subframe. rear set up is LD

[Flash68]

You have to remember Dave Brown has multi championships under his belt.

What really amazes me is that he's running a stock front subframe. rear set up is LD

Yeah you can tell he isn't the average guy at a Run to the X event. :lol:

Speaking of, he should bring a car to RTTC next year and just clean house. :unibrow:

I like knowing he he is doing that with that stock sub. That car really isn't that exotic or crazy at all. Nothing that couldn't be driven on the street with the right gear. :lateral:

Now go get em Weld.

[Vegas69]

Clearly he is a great driver and his car is working perfectly. He's making a few HP too. :unibrow: I don't see him cleaning up at multi event though.

[GregWeld]

Ah..... the old "SKILLS" can outdo equipment any day....

I always refer to our beloved Mary P.... she goes out and lays it down REGARDLESS of what the car handles like.. she just adjusts and get's 'er done.


It always brings fond former memories of when I used to drag race - and you'd go out and kill some guy with far better equipment... but you'd do it with tire pressure - and timing - and the right A/F ratio at WOT.... just simple stuff that all the equipment in the world doesn't teach you.

[Track Junky]

Clearly he is a great driver and his car is working perfectly. He's making a few HP too. :unibrow: I don't see him cleaning up at multi event though.

I talked to Karl earlier this year at Infineon and I believe he said 480 to the rear wheels.
IMO it all boils down to wheel time. These guys have been racing for many years consistently.

[Vegas69]

That's the thing with the multi events. You don't have much time to figure out the course, let alone memorize it. Road racing is repetition and once you find the lines and set up, you can shave some serious time. Not taking anything away from him, just stating the facts.

[Flash68]

All true points. And my comment about RTTC was not very serious. :cheers:

Yeah it's a dry sump 387 making "only" about 600 crank hp.

[Vegas69]

He's got it in the sweet spot because it's motivating that car plenty. I bet it's in that 3100-3250 range.

[Track Junky]

Fiberglass front end and doors. No side glass and lexan. I think he said 3100.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

its all about being consistant and hitting your lines right. Chicca's Camaro kicks ass

[Vince@Meanstreets]

That's the thing with the multi events. You don't have much time to figure out the course, let alone memorize it. Road racing is repetition and once you find the lines and set up, you can shave some serious time. Not taking anything away from him, just stating the facts.

thats what makes auto x fun, you don't usually get enough runs to memorize the layout. It mostly comes to driver instinct and setting up the car right. You can only get so much walking a course...unless your a Pozzi.

[camcojb]

thats what makes auto x fun, you don't usually get enough runs to memorize the layout. It mostly comes to driver instinct and setting up the car right. You can only get so much walking a course...unless your a Pozzi.

that's sig material, love it! :lol:

[intocarss]

It always brings fond former memories of when I used to drag race - and you'd go out and kill some guy with far better equipment... but you'd do it with tire pressure - and timing - and the right A/F ratio at WOT.... just simple stuff that all the equipment in the world doesn't teach you. You speak the truth :thumbsup: It's even more fun taking out the high $ cars with all their electronics, ie throttle stops, delay boxs.

[Sieg]

I had the privilege of meeting Gwen and Greg and getting a quick personal trailer tour of Old Yeller today! The car is exceptional in person, what a track weapon! Great job on the build Charlie. :thumbsup:

Greg - It was a real pleasure to finally meet you and your lovely wife all though way too brief of a meeting.

Hope the forecast holds as it looks to be awfully good. Will Gwen get some instruction/site laps to learn the reference points?

Have a great time at T-Hill! :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

I had the privilege of meeting Gwen and Greg and getting a quick personal trailer tour of Old Yeller today! The car is exceptional in person, what a track weapon! Great job on the build Charlie. :thumbsup:

Greg - It was a real pleasure to finally meet you and your lovely wife all though way too brief of a meeting.

Hope the forecast holds as it looks to be awfully good. Will Gwen get some instruction/site laps to learn the reference points?

Have a great time at T-Hill! :thumbsup:



Thanks buddy! Was good to shake hands with you too!

We settled into Redding for the night -- it was a dilly dally kind of day.... no big rush to get down here... Got all day tomorrow to goof off now.

Hope those heads work out for you!

:cheers:

[Flash68]

Thanks buddy! Was good to shake hands with you too!

We settled into Redding for the night -- it was a dilly dally kind of day.... no big rush to get down here... Got all day tomorrow to goof off now.

Hope those heads work out for you!

:cheers:

Ahh Redding.... I spent a month there one night... don't ask. :_paranoid

You got your lines down for the weekend? Got a lap time goal? :lateral:

[Sieg]

Thanks buddy! Was good to shake hands with you too!

We settled into Redding for the night -- it was a dilly dally kind of day.... no big rush to get down here... Got all day tomorrow to goof off now.

Hope those heads work out for you!

:cheers:
How was lunch? Katie buy? :D We meet at the Blvd Grille in the summer since the owner is a car guy and blocks a section of the front lot for us.

If they don't work out they'll be the coolest bookends I've ever owned. :D
Taking them to the builder today for a strategic planning session. :unibrow:

Thanks again, enjoy D-D'ing today. Track walk after dinner tonight?

[GregWeld]

Ahh Redding.... I spent a month there one night... don't ask. :_paranoid

You got your lines down for the weekend? Got a lap time goal? :lateral:



Yeah -- sort of.... I'd like to be 2.08's or better


Visit Redding - Your passport for adventure!


:rofl:

[GregWeld]

How was lunch? Katie buy? :D We meet at the Blvd Grille in the summer since the owner is a car guy and blocks a section of the front lot for us.

If they don't work out they'll be the coolest bookends I've ever owned. :D
Taking them to the builder today for a strategic planning session. :unibrow:

Thanks again, enjoy D-D'ing today. Track walk after dinner tonight?


Lunch was fine - can't hurt a Cob salad much... I didn't know Geoff was a car guy... He's Katies boss where he is partner in a pizza joint... so he bought us dessert. Katie ate it.

Those heads will be killer - especially if you go stroker 383... Amazing how much more torque you can get out of 33 more cubic inches. Just keep the rod short.

GM was selling a 383 short block - don't know if they still do - but IIRC it was a bargain.

:cheers:

[mdprovee]

Greg,

I was planning on trying to come visit you at the track tomorrow, limited time I know. Hope to see ya in the morning.

[Sieg]

IIRC Geoff has a blue/white Tri-5.

Torque?????

iiKM0-oH-VY

:unibrow:
I love the sound of that mouse motor.


383 is the plan for the future, I might just do a quickie this season........we'll see after today's get togther.