1969 Camaro Restomod Project Thread [Archive] - Page 2?login=1

will69camaro

05-01-2014, 06:16 PM

Got a big shipment of parts in today!
http://i.imgur.com/OjolykY.jpg

Several boxes there. I didn't get pictures of some of the stuff but that's a full set of March Pullies, ATI Super Damper, waterpump, alternator, a/c, etc. The other boxes are the Autorad setup!

Autorad setup:
http://i.imgur.com/J5QMR8j.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sURroFZ.jpg

This is just a mock up as all this will be coated black. Not shown are the closeout panels, etc.

My Mast Black Label heads were supposed to show up but they got delayed a day. They'll arrive tomorrow. Clutch will be picked up with the heads tomorrow. Already picked up the ID1300 injectors!

William

Evan Iroc-Z

05-02-2014, 06:04 AM

That AutoRad setup is rad! OK, horrible joke, but it is still a work of art!

will69camaro

05-02-2014, 06:54 AM

That AutoRad setup is rad! OK, horrible joke, but it is still a work of art!

Thanks and I agree. Hard to bring myself to paint it, but it will look out of place otherwise.

Maybe when this car is finished, Kalis and I can go hurt some feelings at shift sector event in old cars :)

tones2SS

05-02-2014, 04:53 PM

Maybe when this car is finished, Kalis and I can go hurt some feelings at shift sector event in old cars :)

HA HA
Nice mods William.

blacktop

05-02-2014, 07:26 PM

Thanks and I agree. Hard to bring myself to paint it, but it will look out of place otherwise.

Maybe when this car is finished, Kalis and I can go hurt some feelings at shift sector event in old cars :)

I do not live far from auto rad and he said it will not cool as well painted. But yet there are tons out there painted. Any truth to this?

Ron in SoCal

05-02-2014, 07:50 PM

I do not live far from auto rad and he said it will not cool as well painted. But yet there are tons out there painted. Any truth to this?

Are you warmer with a jacket on? Not to be sarcastic (well just a little), but I blew a high compression MC motor after I powdercoated the barrels. Heat dissipation is best done with bare metal.

will69camaro

05-02-2014, 09:15 PM

Slowly being convinced to leave it bare. Gonna test fit it and see how I feel about it. Pics to be posted of course.

will69camaro

05-03-2014, 12:28 PM

More parts showed up Friday. Still no Clutch, motor, trans or gas tank, but every little thing is another step closer!

Mast Black Label 256cc LS3 heads. They had these to me in 2 days! Fitted with solid stainless valves and .700lift beehive springs. 69cc combustion chambers. Should give me around 9.75:1 compression on the 427 :)

http://i.imgur.com/WSbqdnQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iRgWN0a.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FeBw8Zh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9Wa3Ho1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pPEkugT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mrtLvYr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VYNUTLp.jpg?1

Also got the Holley Dominator EFI on order so that will be coming soon!

William

Sparks67

05-03-2014, 01:43 PM

Are you warmer with a jacket on? Not to be sarcastic (well just a little), but I blew a high compression MC motor after I powdercoated the barrels. Heat dissipation is best done with bare metal.

True! Powdercoat is placed in an oven to melt the powder which flows and fuses into a continuous hard, non-porous coating. While paint is appplied differently, it is never put in an oven, but if you paint it to thick then it creates a thermal barrier on metal. A friend painted a radiator back in 1990 with single stage paint in based on the body color, and I never had any problems with overheating.

Now, Dewitts has developed a new coating called Black Ice and the coating is formulated to give you the black look of original radiator, without the problem of heat transfer with traditional paint. http://www.dewitts.com/products/blackice

Jeff

214Chevy

05-03-2014, 04:19 PM

will69camaro

05-03-2014, 09:16 PM

Sparks67

05-04-2014, 12:24 PM

Thanks for the info on the coating. I would be sure it's coating doesn't have a huge impact on the cooling. Otherwise it stays bare. No way id powdercoat it. That was the core support option only.

There is a few articles about the Dewitts black ice, and .002 thickness is nothing. Stielow is using a Dewitts Radiator on Camaro XV, and I am sure he use that as well. If you leave it bare, then you might want to polish it. Of course, you always be polishing those parts.

Oh, I paint the core support too. I have tried powder coat in the past on my rear end. The powdercoat base and clear cracked, so we ended up sanding it down and repainting it. I had no problems with the paint on the rear end.

Jeff

will69camaro

05-04-2014, 02:46 PM

Ok excellent advice.

Thanks!
William

tones2SS

05-05-2014, 05:00 PM

Very nice William.
She's coming along man.

will69camaro

05-06-2014, 07:32 PM

More parts in. Pictures courtesy of DV8motoring.com! Will have some pics on the car tomorrow (maybe without tires). Going to pick them up and test fit them prior to putting tires on them, just to be sure everything looks right.

Forgeline GA3 in titanium center w/ brushed lip. 18x9.5 and 18x12
http://i.imgur.com/Gd5y8Uc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MKxCq3E.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mZe3elT.jpg

William

Ron in SoCal

05-06-2014, 07:39 PM

Congrats Will! Those wheels make me ... :hapdance:

will69camaro

05-06-2014, 08:06 PM

Same as RideTech's yellow GoodGuys camaro. Loved them too much to NOT get them. Got them in just under 4 weeks too!

William

will69camaro

05-07-2014, 07:42 PM

I couldn't wait to see how these wheels looked on te car so I took the day off and rushed up to DV8motoring.com's headquarters to pick up my new wheels.

I took them to GAP Racing to test fit on the car and be sure everything fit the way it was supposed to. Everything looked perfect!
http://i.imgur.com/JGS7M6n.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CGCJjRb.jpg

After the test fit was complete, I went back to DV8motoring.com's shop and mounted/balanced the tires!
http://i.imgur.com/fE7WPZr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MDLz9o7.jpg

Then it was back to GAP to assemble the rotors (preliminary, need to safety wire still), And put the wheels on to test fit with tires.
Wilwood 14.25" Front and 14" rear (Z06 fitment).
http://i.imgur.com/4eW4SvL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pSGonIQ.jpg

Now for the wheels on the car! Please dont mind the suspension settings. We've got some work to do to level the car out.
This is pretty much the stance I'm wanting for the rear wheel and it looks like it'll work.
http://i.imgur.com/DkMxjur.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WWxb5LV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uyZxIbc.jpg

Hard to believe they fit but we got them to work! They'll look a lot wider when the fuel tank goes in next week.
http://i.imgur.com/SoEEWlq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MR8v95D.jpg

This is the stance I'll be shooting for on the front. Rear is a little low here.
http://i.imgur.com/Xe3jE6L.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/U9cpRhg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Q2hM2Gw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DZf6Irh.jpg

Wheels:
Forgeline GA3 18x9.5 and 18x12 w/ Titanium center and brushed lips
275/35/18 Michelin PS2
345/35/18 Mickey Thompson Drag Radial

William

Ovidiu

05-07-2014, 08:13 PM

Car looks great William, I just love the brushed lip!

rickpaw

05-08-2014, 04:58 AM

Love the wheels and the stance looks spot on.:thumbsup:

tubbed69

05-08-2014, 06:45 AM

Wheels do look great on there Will,car is extremely nice and getting close

will69camaro

05-08-2014, 08:54 AM

Thanks guys. It's getting there slowly. Wheels made a HUGE difference! Cant wait to see it done!

William

tones2SS

05-09-2014, 04:51 PM

Looking good William.
She's gonna look really good going really fast! :thumbsup:

will69camaro

05-09-2014, 07:42 PM

I hope so. Ovi made a good observation today, I got a thing for twins...

Twin Turbos
Twin Intercoolers
Twin Fuel Pumps
Twin Disc Clutch
Twin Throttle Bodies (hopefully)

efs69

05-10-2014, 09:09 PM

:drool: looking good. Man that's a lot of tire back there

will69camaro

05-11-2014, 06:03 AM

Thanks. Yea definitely a lot if tire in the back. I know I'll need it and know this tire works (hooks on a friends 1200rwhp viper). I did mount the rear tire with hair spray and not soap. We've found it keeps the rim from spinning on the tire as much.

will69camaro

05-11-2014, 12:54 PM

These came in Friday:

Spec ST twin disc. Clutch is rated at 1260lb-ft
http://i.imgur.com/DxUH98G.jpg

Ricks Stainless Tank setup for twin CTS-V pumps. Fuel system rated to 1600hp
http://i.imgur.com/OygP3Jj.jpg

William

will69camaro

05-13-2014, 12:10 PM

More bits and pieces keep showing up...

http://i.imgur.com/2RlSLwP.jpg

Gambit

05-13-2014, 02:10 PM

It's better than Xmas!! Wheels look killer mate

frankv11

05-13-2014, 02:13 PM

What a nice bunch of parts, :disgusted:

will69camaro

05-13-2014, 02:24 PM

Thanks.

BTW: "What's in the box?"
TRANZILLA™
1,200HP and 1,000lb-ft capacity
Features

All gears and shafts are made of 9310 Alloy Steel
The gear train has a 22 degree helix angle for increased strength, less thrust load, and lower operating temperatures
All Tranzilla units feature C5 Corvette Triple Cone Synchronizers for ultra smooth shifts
Steel 3-4 Shift Fork
Solid, billet synchronizer keys
All components match fitted, and clearance corrected (blue printed)
New OEM bearings
Competition, race ready shim package

sleepertime

05-13-2014, 02:30 PM

:popcorn2: SWEET... I can't wait to see and hear it completed. You have got a very impressive assortment of parts coming together... :G-Dub:

GAP Industries

05-13-2014, 03:15 PM

We get something new in everyday for you. LoL:headspin:

will69camaro

05-13-2014, 04:01 PM

Hope tomorrow is an engine!

tones2SS

05-13-2014, 05:21 PM

Very awesome William. Doing it right and doing it right the first time. :thumbsup:
And,.......there's nothing wrong with having a "thing" for twins. :D Keep us posted bud. I can't wait too see and hear this bad boy when complete.

rickpaw

05-14-2014, 12:13 PM

I hope so. Ovi made a good observation today, I got a thing for twins...

Twin Turbos
Twin Intercoolers
Twin Fuel Pumps
Twin Disc Clutch
Twin Throttle Bodies (hopefully)

Will,

All you need now are the Playboy twin playmates. :D :underchair:

will69camaro

05-14-2014, 12:32 PM

Not sure the GF would like that very much but I suppose a photoshoot with the car is relatively harmless... :headspin:

Just got off the phone with Texas Speed and my motor should be shipping next Monday! Now to call Nelson and see how they stand with the intake production!

William

rickpaw

05-14-2014, 12:52 PM

Not sure the GF would like that very much but I suppose a photoshoot with the car is relatively harmless... :headspin:

William

HAHA.

Ovidiu

05-14-2014, 01:16 PM

Just got off the phone with Texas Speed and my motor should be shipping next Monday! Now to call Nelson and see how they stand with the intake production!
A month away? :underchair:

will69camaro

05-14-2014, 01:25 PM

A month away? :underchair:

Just like always. Been calling/asking about it for over 2 months now. Always "2-3 more weeks" or "too busy with building motors, haven't had time to get to it."

I understand being busy and I dont need it yet, just wish it could be completed sooner. About to give up waiting on it and just use the FAST 102 I have.

William

will69camaro

05-20-2014, 12:06 PM

Well got another big step accomplished!

Car got moved back to my house (at least temporarily) so I can do some work on it there.
http://i.imgur.com/M509dlM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1IZ3WeH.jpg

Had another "what's in the box" today and that's when the LSX 427 from Texas Speed arrived. Cant wait to go break this crate open and take a look at it! I WILL be getting more pics soon (not sure I'll get by there today).
http://i.imgur.com/CsoiGFY.jpg

Also had my Holley stuff delivered. Waiting on getting the ECU (Dominator is back ordered right now).
http://i.imgur.com/ZTPxk62.jpg

William

waynieZ

05-20-2014, 04:17 PM

I just drooled all over myself ! I would say I'm jelous but that would imply I'm not happy for you. SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

214Chevy

05-20-2014, 04:25 PM

http://i.imgur.com/CsoiGFY.jpg

Can't wait to see the motor!!

kLDhMU5JvMk

will69camaro

05-20-2014, 04:43 PM

Thanks guys.

Yea I can't wait either. Pains me that it'll be tomorrow at the soonest.

William

tones2SS

05-20-2014, 05:08 PM

That's awesome William. Getting it home is a big step in the right direction.
Can't wait to see that engine.
Keep us posted.

will69camaro

05-27-2014, 08:36 AM

So I went to visit the motor and pick up a few things from GAP to work on over the weekend. Unfortunately didn't make it very far with the car work as things always got in the way.

Took the cover off and snapped some photos of the wrapped up LSX427!
http://i.imgur.com/GXgqc4w.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iwtDz37.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JbVatpk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/h1Ok184.jpg

I got the corner pickups and set the pumps in the Ricks Tank and it looks good. Planning out the fuel system and what pieces I need to buy.
http://i.imgur.com/ToyC4wr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O4Z8UmK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gF6ZVKj.jpg

I did run into a snag, and that was the CTS-V module needs to be modified for the corner pickups. I hadn't seen this previously (it was available online, just hadn't looked), as I assumed it would fit.
http://i.imgur.com/UAi6OoQ.jpg

The fix is relatively simple and I may try to come up with something else in order to make it retain stock module for easier swap out in the future.

Beyond that I made a little time this weekend to go grab a few craft brews at Jester King.
http://i.imgur.com/Cy3NOom.jpg

Also made a trip to see the new addition to the family. She's a mini aussie and her name is Emma. She's 4 weeks old currently so still a bit of time before we get to bring her home. She's second from the left (blue merle).
http://i.imgur.com/ldTFjRe.jpg

tones2SS

05-27-2014, 05:01 PM

Awesome William. Great updates.
Got your engine, some nice brews and a nice little addition.
Good luck bro and keep us posted.

will69camaro

06-02-2014, 08:09 PM

Got the remaining. It's for the engine ordered. Will be here in a few days. Can was a hard decision but with KP's help we picked one out! Custom grind 247/251 .624/.624 on a 118! Should be pretty rowdy!

William

will69camaro

06-17-2014, 07:00 AM

Cam was sent but was ground wrong by comp (on a 114+2 instead of a 118)...They ground a new cam yesterday and was overnighted so hoping it's here today! I'll work with GAP to get the engine assembled as I will now have all the parts.

In other news, I went to working on the car finally in my garage. Ran into a few issues with the painter's assembly that caused some headache. He ran up the stainless hardware with no antiseize. Bolts on the core support were locked up and the support wasn't even tight!

http://i.imgur.com/FZ2r2gX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SrctpIC.jpg

I think it's safe to say that bolt isn't "tight." But here's another shot for good measure.

http://i.imgur.com/ZR3e52K.jpg

It however was most definitely locked up!

http://i.imgur.com/lrJRrEP.jpg

I got one out then broke the socket on the second one. You can tell by this bolt that the hardware was installed dry and had galling.

http://i.imgur.com/A6rQr1I.jpg

Oh well, the show must go on! Got some bigger tools and had a friend come over to extract the last bolt holding my old core support in.

http://i.imgur.com/8F6eYkl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jmA7lEe.jpg

Success! (Dont mind that it's a little dusty, it's being cleaned up)

http://i.imgur.com/d1mFLvL.jpg

Now time to fit test the new AutoRad piece!

http://i.imgur.com/eQZqgmx.jpg

Yep, that looks pretty good.

http://i.imgur.com/WBesZrJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Y4rf8sF.jpg

Intercoolers had some interference but I should have seen that coming. Pass-through pipes were left long intentionally to give us flexibility. Just a little TOO long to get them mounted up. That's an easy fix.

http://i.imgur.com/bRvBGBp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LBUYbj9.jpg

They will look good once they're on there!

http://i.imgur.com/37UGWjC.jpg

I plan to put the front end back on (temporarily) tonight and take some pics of the pieces raw behind the grille. Trying to make my mind whether to coat or leave it bare. To be honest, I'm liking this look right now.

It'll be a few days before I cut those pipes and put the IC on, so front will be coming back off, but that's ok. This was just a mock up test anyway :)

William

sleepertime

06-17-2014, 07:45 AM

Oh the fun of stainless. I found that they make an anti seize specifically for stainless steel.
Those pieces really do look good.

will69camaro

06-17-2014, 08:06 AM

Oh the fun of stainless. I found that they make an anti seize specifically for stainless steel.
Those pieces really do look good.

I will have to find that anti-seize.

Thanks!

William

rickpaw

06-17-2014, 08:45 AM

Car's coming out great Will. Sucks to hear about the ss bolt. I forgot to add anti seize on my tie rod ends, and they seized solid to the hotchkis aluminum adjusters. $250 down the drain.

will69camaro

06-17-2014, 08:56 AM

It'd be slightly less frustrating had I done it. However it was installed by a person I paid to do it and expected to be competent enough to do it right (painter). Luckily GAP is helping me out and has another pair of bolts for me to use!

William

sleepertime

06-17-2014, 09:25 AM

Here is a link to some that I have used. You can find it at different places and different manufacturer's. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002UENJ2?pc_redir=1402721005&robot_redir=1

tones2SS

06-18-2014, 04:48 PM

That sucks about the bolt, but at least it was caught now.
Car is looking good buddy! Keep us posted.

will69camaro

06-22-2014, 09:08 AM

Got started on the motor. Unfortunately I had expected the TSP shortblock to come with head dowel pins. So heads will be going on Monday after I get dowels from a dealer...

Here are some progress pics:
http://i.imgur.com/kcXPVPf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BQfd5pg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/M1EukOX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3TdamGG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lDPu04b.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5mgDNRs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6J8ot7Z.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/c2AeyjY.jpg

That was the end of engine work. Got the cam installed, front end of the motor on, and waiting on dowel pins. I have everything I need to (aside from those pins) to get it all together.

Went to put the front end on the car and ran into a few problems. Test fitting everything with the core support so some small issues were expected.
This is how it started.
http://i.imgur.com/eQZqgmx.jpg

Then came the front sheet metal (got a few chips on the way). I think there is a problem with paint adhesion on this car. Was very gentle with everything and in some areas the paint just flakes.
http://i.imgur.com/R76vnEH.jpg

DAMN YOU CHIP!
http://i.imgur.com/ACwN7u4.jpg

Beyond that there was a more serious issue. I put it all together and put the front spoiler on for the first time and noticed the lower valence has issues the painter was SUPPOSED to fix and didnt.
http://i.imgur.com/hYattbd.jpg

Keep in mind spoiler is new. valence is dented at the mounting point and above the spoiler (just below the fog light) about the entire length of the valence. I will be getting a new one and getting it painted to match the car. Considering aftermarket options now to help get air moving into the intercooler/radiator area.

Drivers side (how it's supposed to look)
http://i.imgur.com/JbnOk43.jpg

Passenger side (obviously damaged valence)
http://i.imgur.com/mfYAAG5.jpg

That's where we're at today. Front being on has me wanting to leave the core support raw aluminum. I think (at the advice of friends) I'll paint the back side black to match the engine bay, but I'll leave the front raw aluminum.

Its never ending!
William

sleepertime

06-22-2014, 09:26 AM

:hitaxeonthehead:

Car building, two steps forward, one step back....
Wow seeing the engine come together reminds me of a building a master piece
or work of art....

:G-Dub:

will69camaro

06-22-2014, 11:25 AM

Thanks! I'm pretty over the paint job and painter. Just want it running. It'll be repainted by a competent shop down the road.

tones2SS

06-23-2014, 05:09 PM

Never ending is right William.
She is looking good though. That is going to look killer, raw aluminum on the front and black on the inside. Good call.
Good luck going forward!

waynieZ

06-23-2014, 09:03 PM

It looks great Will, I hope the parts show up so you can get at it so the motor can go together. Sweet motor by the way.

will69camaro

06-24-2014, 06:35 AM

Thanks guys. Been a long few days with issues coming up each day.

I'll have the heads on today and hopefully test fit intake/valve covers to see how it'll look when all assembled. Been hard getting by the shop and working day job...Really wish I could just take time off to do this.

will69camaro

06-28-2014, 07:55 AM

Motor is together! For the most part..

http://i.imgur.com/cg1M76G.png

Spiffav8

06-28-2014, 08:48 AM

Motor is together! For the most part..

http://i.imgur.com/cg1M76G.png

I like it!!

will69camaro

06-28-2014, 01:10 PM

Thanks. Was a hard pill to swallow to do 427 LSX. But at the end of te day, buy once cry once.

GAP Industries

06-28-2014, 01:49 PM

I'd so paint that block black. Might As Well !!!

efs69

06-30-2014, 04:28 PM

Car is coming together very nicely. As for the crying part...buy more tissue LOL

tones2SS

06-30-2014, 05:02 PM

Motor is together! For the most part..
http://i.imgur.com/cg1M76G.png

Awesome Will.
Keep'em coming bud.

sleepertime

06-30-2014, 05:23 PM

:ups: Spend it, more will come...

Seriously the thing is looking great.

:thumbsup:

will69camaro

06-30-2014, 06:07 PM

Thanks guys. I know more will come. I wouldn't spend it if I couldn't afford it.

Decided I gotta stick with orange on the block. Just like it.

tones2SS

08-04-2014, 04:49 PM

Any updates William?

will69camaro

08-04-2014, 08:46 PM

Been slow lately with heavy work load and Tim at GAP being busy.

Pretty much no change except a few more things ordered and arrived (nothing too exciting) and dynamat installed inside the car. Have a few more areas to cover but for the most part that's ready to go.

I hope to make more progress soon!

GAP Industries

08-06-2014, 03:04 PM

will69camaro

08-06-2014, 03:08 PM

A couple late nights and we should be ready for the quick 30 event !!!:waveflag:

I'm in...

I want to go to the quick 30 and see if we can get in the 10s on pump gas and low boost!

William

tones2SS

08-06-2014, 04:47 PM

I'm in...
I want to go to the quick 30 and see if we can get in the 10s on pump gas and low boost!
William

NICE!!!!

will69camaro

08-06-2014, 07:47 PM

Be nice when it does it. With GAP setting up the suspension in sure we'll get it down the track. Boost by speed will help traction issues. I'll consider a Davis box later on.

Hoping ultimately this car will be a 9 sec car when it's turned up!

tones2SS

09-15-2014, 04:47 PM

How's it going William?
Any updates?

will69camaro

09-16-2014, 07:53 AM

How's it going William?
Any updates?

Sadly nothing of note lately. Need to get back on it and hoping to this Friday. Talking with Tim at GAP and hoping to have my car back up there this weekend possibly and see if we can get the driveline installed so we can start some of the final fabrication work required.

I did see Nelson Racing released that intake, but only as part of the kit so unless they surprise me at SEMA with individual availability of it, then I'll have to plan another route.

William

tones2SS

09-16-2014, 04:41 PM

Sounds good bro.
Good luck! :thumbsup:

will69camaro

09-16-2014, 07:18 PM

LS7 Z/28

09-16-2014, 08:15 PM

Start thinking of all the nice newer cars I could have had and paid cash for...viper...new z06...ugh

I think the same things from time to time, but your car will be way cooler than anything that can be purchased from a dealer and while those cars steadily lose their value and cool factor; yours will always maintain both.

tones2SS

09-17-2014, 04:43 PM

Thanks I need it. Ready to have it. Been in a but of a funk and need to push through and get it going.
Start thinking of all the nice newer cars I could have had and paid cash for...viper...new z06...ugh
The new Z06 is NASTY!
Keep us posted.

I think the same things from time to time, but your car will be way cooler than anything that can be purchased from a dealer and while those cars steadily lose their value and cool factor; yours will always maintain both.
Very true.

will69camaro

12-09-2014, 08:13 AM

Sorry for the long overdue update. Not a lot has been happening as I've been busy with work.

I went with Tim and GAP Racing to SEMA and entered the JRi shock contest...

Well:
http://i.imgur.com/G9IRZVm.jpg

Looks like my suspension will change a little and the shocks will be changed out with the ride height adjustable coilover setup. Hoping to work out a deal with JRi and get some adjustable coilovers with the ride height adjustment.

The car was picked up this week (front sheet metal removed) and taken back to GAP Racing.
http://i.imgur.com/OzNmwgI.jpg

I am going to have the firewall re-done and fully smoothed. Going with wilwood pedals so removing all the brake booster firewall stuff as well.

I am now looking at doing the Anvil inner fenders (fiberglass ones, no carbon) so I can get the car LOW and have full turn still.

:G-Dub:
William

GAP Industries

12-09-2014, 08:55 AM

She's in good hands now sir !!!:poke:

will69camaro

12-09-2014, 09:16 AM

Good!

tubbed69

12-09-2014, 09:35 AM

Congrats on winning a Will,car is looking great:thumbsup:

LS7 Z/28

12-09-2014, 01:32 PM

I am now looking at doing the Anvil inner fenders (fiberglass ones, no carbon) so I can get the car LOW and have full turn still.

:G-Dub:
William

If you are going that route then I suggest you order them as soon as possible. It took 8 months for me to get mine and I have been waiting for almost 6 months for some smaller pieces. The quality and customer service is top notch, but the lead time for parts will drive you crazy. :hairpullout:

will69camaro

12-09-2014, 01:58 PM

Yea, wish I had ordered them sooner. If I have to run the stock ones for now, I will. I bought new ones for the build already so it's not a huge deal. Was hoping they would be easier to get than 8 months build time...

William

tones2SS

12-09-2014, 05:25 PM

That's awesome William. Congrats on the win and keep us posted!

will69camaro

12-10-2014, 05:23 AM

Thanks. I will.

Rendering should be done soon of the car (better late than never on my part). I'm taking a few days off so I'll see what I can get done on the car in those days. I have about 95% of what I need to finish the car it's just about making time to do it.

will69camaro

12-17-2014, 01:06 PM

http://www.jrishocks.com/sema-ride-height-winner/

I opted for the double adjustable setup for some additional cost. Project name has been decided as "Might As Well" since that seems to be what I say most when buying parts for it...

William

waynieZ

12-17-2014, 06:58 PM

That is SWEET! Congratulation's it looks like a nice system.

will69camaro

12-17-2014, 07:31 PM

It killed my IG and Facebook today with all the notifications etc. Spread like wildfire.

Firewall has been started as well! Passenger side is on and being welded. Needs finishing and drivers side cleanup but that's next.

http://i.imgur.com/BQATwfE.png

coachwinbush

12-18-2014, 04:47 AM

beautiful

will69camaro

12-18-2014, 07:28 AM

Thanks! Long way to go still but it's looking good and hoping to start getting to some more fab work for the powertrain/FI setup.

William

tones2SS

12-18-2014, 04:47 PM

Awesome William.
Good call on the smoothed firewall.

will69camaro

12-22-2014, 01:58 PM

Fair to say i'm pretty excited about this still! Talking with them and hope to have this system shipped to me first part of the year.

http://i.imgur.com/TYPVhcd.jpg

will69camaro

01-19-2015, 12:12 PM

We have the engine in place and will be finishing up firewall checks and starting turbo fabrication.

http://i.imgur.com/cPAebiL.jpg

Also got an update from JRi on the shocks. Looking GOOD!
http://i.imgur.com/cqstLsp.jpg

will69camaro

01-19-2015, 12:13 PM

Also Kris Horton finished up the rendering of the car recently as well.

http://i.imgur.com/HnKNLhM.jpg

tones2SS

01-19-2015, 05:05 PM

Very awesome.
Glad to see the updates. Car should be beast!

rkleypas

01-20-2015, 05:25 PM

Will, I'd like to meet you and check out your car. I recently got my 70 Chevelle back from the Roadster Shop. I need to get to know the Houston pro touring crowd...

will69camaro

01-20-2015, 06:30 PM

Sounds good!

We need to have a meet/greet. There are a ton of members in the area. Be cool to have them all together. We can talk about projects in the works or finished!

rkleypas

01-20-2015, 07:10 PM

will69camaro

01-20-2015, 07:19 PM

Yep. Used to be coffee and cars, but I think it is dead. What's the timeframe on your car? I looked back over your entire thread and saw that you started in 2010. I know you're busting at the seams. If you ever need any help turning a wrench, let me know. My 16 year old will gladly polish the lugnuts...

Yea been a long time coming with this build. Have most the parts and hoping to make power tour this year!

I'll let you know when wrenching opportunities come up! Now post a thread with build pics of your RS Chevelle!

rickpaw

01-21-2015, 06:41 AM

Yea been a long time coming with this build. Have most the parts and hoping to make power tour this year!

I'll let you know when wrenching opportunities come up! Now post a thread with build pics of your RS Chevelle!

Rendering looks good Will. Hope you can make power tour this year. I've signed up for it, and will be doing Memphis-->Baton Rouge leg.

Tu

will69camaro

01-21-2015, 07:00 AM

I haven't signed up for it yet but a group of friends has already picked hotels. We'll be doing the long haul.

rkleypas

01-21-2015, 07:17 PM

Will, my car is on here. It's a Roadster Shop project update: "Robert's Chevelle". I need to check out the Power Tour myself. That was one of the reasons I did the car; to drive.

will69camaro

01-21-2015, 07:20 PM

That's awesome. Jess showed me the thread. I remembered it but didn't see the final product. That is a gorgeous car!

Glad you built it to drive. That's what is important is getting the car out and enjoying it!

rickpaw

01-22-2015, 06:57 AM

Will, I'd like to meet you and check out your car. I recently got my 70 Chevelle back from the Roadster Shop. I need to get to know the Houston pro touring crowd...

Sounds good!

We need to have a meet/greet. There are a ton of members in the area. Be cool to have them all together. We can talk about projects in the works or finished!

Will/Robert,

Slightly off topic, but I'd like to meet you guys as well. We have a group of guys that normally gathered at Starbucks off of I-10/Echo Lane on Sundays, around 4:00 pm. Mostly Firebirds, but some will show up with Vettes/Olds/Alpha Romeos.

will69camaro

01-22-2015, 11:17 AM

Man Echo/I10 is just down the road from my house (just near city center). Also near GAP Racing. You gonna be there this weekend?

William

rickpaw

01-23-2015, 06:04 PM

Man Echo/I10 is just down the road from my house (just near city center). Also near GAP Racing. You gonna be there this weekend?

William

Will,

Most likely I won't be there this weekend. Have the car on jackstand swapping out spindles, and with the auto show this weekend, most of the guys won't be there either.

I plan to be there in 2 weeks, as I'll be in San Antonio next weekend.

I've been to GAP before. Tim is 10 min from where I work. When I stopped by, your Camaro was in body shop.

will69camaro

01-23-2015, 07:54 PM

Ok. We'll meet up another time.

will69camaro

01-27-2015, 12:45 PM

Some new parts arrived!
http://i.imgur.com/PFWsXPl.jpg

Some new parts put on order as well. Master cylinders and billet reservoirs for the new pedal assembly. Picked up the carbon spoiler off this site as well :)

William

rkleypas

01-28-2015, 07:16 PM

Sweet. What's the timeframe looking like? Are you going to make Power Tour? I'm registered, just need to make hotel reservations. My car is going back to Roadster Shop this spring for final touch ups. My son and I are going to fly up and do the whole tour back. Should be a blast. Hopefully we will meet you somewhere in Alabama, Mississippi or Louisiana.

will69camaro

01-28-2015, 07:58 PM

Goal is to do the whole thing.

Got the transmission in today and measured driveshaft. It's inly temporary to fab turbo stuff.

Also got the fuel tank installed with dual pump setup.

I'll be going up friday to see what I can get accomplished before I go offshore. Need turbo headers now to make big progress. I'll see if I can mount the brakes and maybe the shocks though.

will69camaro

01-29-2015, 11:39 AM

Car got on the lift at GAP so we could do a little more work to it:
http://i.imgur.com/eJSP8f1.jpg

First up was installing the RSG Tranzilla. Was simple to do with the quicktime bellhousing and the hooker crossmember. Looks like some MINOR modifications needed to the crossmember to allow the mount to sit down fully.

After putting it in the air and taking a look at it, I can tell i'm going to cut the bottom of the bellhousing flange so it's not hanging so low. Dont want to risk snagging that on the road when driving. That would be devastating!
http://i.imgur.com/mjmGyh5.jpg

After that I got the tank installed in the car. Still need to snug the straps up a little bit it looks good :) Got both CTS-V pumps modified and in the tank pointing the way I want. Looking forward to taking full advantage of this system!
http://i.imgur.com/wPlmusi.jpg

William

rickpaw

01-30-2015, 05:52 AM

Will,

I'd like to stop by GAP later today (2-3 pm time frame) if you'll be around.

Let me know please.

will69camaro

01-30-2015, 07:13 AM

Still trying to see if Tim will be there. I plan to get there if he is around 2-3 myself but gonna call him before I head there. He has plans this morning so wont be there.

William

randy

01-30-2015, 06:38 PM

what is your full opinion on that crossmember? I'm thinking about buying one. Can you post some more pic? how close it is to the floor etc

will69camaro

01-30-2015, 08:02 PM

Will get some pics hopefully tomorrow. Aside from needing to SLIGHTLY modify it to let my mount sit down enough to bolt it I think it's a nice piece.

Will mess with it some more to see if I can avoid modifying it. Either way. Worst case will be slot the mounting holes. It fits excellent otherwise.

randy

01-31-2015, 11:38 AM

so plenty of room for the exhaust? Whats the part number?

TheJDMan

01-31-2015, 06:29 PM

William,
I was looking at that crossmember I think it is Hooker PN 12626HKR but I can't tell for sure how it mounts to the frame rail. Do you have some shots of where it mounts to the subframe on each side? It looks like it mounts on top of the frame rail on one side and the bottom of the frame rail on the other side.

As for trimming the bottom of the bell housing flange. Hold off. I have the same BH and frankly it has not been a problem on Dust Off. I would recommend driving the car a while before cutting it. Once it is cut the BH is no longer SFI certified. Just saying.

cwylie

01-31-2015, 06:44 PM

It mounts on the top on both sides in the factory location. I am using the same mount.

will69camaro

02-05-2015, 05:55 AM

Cwylie is correct. Mounts on top of the frame. Part number I am unsure but it's the only one I know of made by holley/hooker.

As for the bellhousing, we'll see. I am aware the sfi certification would be void but I consider that a much lower penalty than what will happen if it snags a bump.

http://i.imgur.com/vixVjvC.png

http://i.imgur.com/ErWrCRe.png

They need some slight modification but not TOO bad.

rickpaw

02-05-2015, 07:06 PM

Car is looking great Will. It was good meeting you the other day.

Tu

cwylie

02-05-2015, 10:09 PM

What about building a skid plate for the bell housing? That way you can maintain the cert.

will69camaro

02-06-2015, 05:41 AM

Out of curiosity when am I going to need the cert on my bellhousing? Why so important to keep that?

Good meeting you Tu

Ricochet

02-06-2015, 08:42 AM

Just chewed through 40 pages of this build. Outstanding! Congrats on winning the suspension upgrade also! Subscribed!

will69camaro

02-06-2015, 08:45 AM

Thanks! It's been going a long time. Wish it was further along but it's getting there. I have a feeling this is the year for this car to finally hit the road!

William

Intimidator3

02-06-2015, 10:29 AM

Lookin' Good!:trophy-1302:

will69camaro

08-05-2015, 08:09 AM

Long overdue update...

Well not even sure where to start so I'll start as far back as I know I haven't posted up on here.

We had some clashing issues with the SW headers and the Precision Metalcraft valve covers, so the decision was made that one of the two had to give...
http://i.imgur.com/PvXlRj1.jpg

While we were doing that work I bought the transition section for the GT35R inlet and the headers were modified and welded. Much better fitment now than before!
http://i.imgur.com/e9if0a6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yJsWfSQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7RM9moU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lp8Zqn2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ExRQsfn.jpg

After that was completed, I decided I'd give the Holley Hi-Ram a shot as I am woried my composite intake will give up when we start pushing 20+ psi through the engine.
http://i.imgur.com/nXEFiKv.jpg

Wait a second...That doesn't look like it'll work...
http://i.imgur.com/eaF4hRz.jpg

The tape measure is the top of the fender line...Not even close.
http://i.imgur.com/sYh4nsC.jpg

Good thing it was only a test fit and I hadn't spent the money on the Hi-Ram yet...Time to drop a little more coin. This kind of thing is how the project got the name "Might as Well." Details: RCI Billet Runner intake
http://i.imgur.com/sk46bOA.jpg

Time to change up the dash that I picked up for it. Got some holes to fill so the new display will work.
http://i.imgur.com/ZonPFKm.jpg

Looks like it will JUST fit!
http://i.imgur.com/WDknHYq.jpg

will69camaro

08-05-2015, 08:19 AM

Next I took on the task of installing the JRi Ride Height Coilovers I won at SEMA!
http://i.imgur.com/05jhnGS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tsBbVYB.jpg

I set them to see how LOW they could go first. Front looks good, but maybe a touch low for where i want it. In the picture I have about 2" of compression travel before it would contact the bump stop.
http://i.imgur.com/WnbvheC.jpg

Rear IMO is MUCH to high!
http://i.imgur.com/57MVkxp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/T6O8Djn.jpg

Working with JJ at JRi, we got a different set of springs coming. Took out the 8" spring and went to a 6" spring. I did a little testing to see where i needed the car to sit for the look I wanted. Both springs were removed and I jacked the car to where i wanted, which will give about 2" of rear travel before the bump stop. I may raise it a little from there, we'll see how it ends up riding.
http://i.imgur.com/TOyJQtt.jpg

While I was waiting on springs, I used the help from this board to pick a steering wheel size and what adapters to go with! NRG short hub adapter was the first to arrive.
http://i.imgur.com/FSk509X.jpg

Soon followed by the NRG Gen 2.8 quick disconnect.
http://i.imgur.com/B7puRou.jpg

And finally the Momo Race wheel arrived.
http://i.imgur.com/zLzZt0V.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/r8yYZOo.jpg

The 6" springs arrived from JRi and I put them in the car and set it as low as it would go to get a starting point. Seems right in line with what I wanted. It will come up about 1-1.25" from here (maybe). In the picture I have about 1" shock compression travel only, so will need to raise it some.
http://i.imgur.com/aHCijYX.jpg

I also got the steering wheel and quick disconnect installed as well as the steering shaft so the car can officially turn by using the wheel! First time in ages!
http://i.imgur.com/KZkHdrr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yw4xTss.jpg

Now the front has been taken off and the car set on the ground for the future work.
http://i.imgur.com/EctcwNc.jpg

From here, the motor will be pulled out and the firewall will be finished up. Motor/Trans and all the front sheet metal will be going back on the car in the next week-ish, so the car can go to another shop to have the turbo kit finished up. Appointment for the turbo shop is 8/17 so we have a lot to do to get it ready to go over there, but I'm confident that we will get it there. The fab shop said approximately 2-3 days to do the hot/cold side piping and then it will be back to have the finishing work done.

William

Panteracer

08-05-2015, 12:14 PM

William,
very cool stuff.. I always had a thing for an orange 69
Mine was a red Z28 many years back.... this car is going
to be bad ass for sure..keep up the good work

Bob

will69camaro

08-05-2015, 12:16 PM

Thanks Bob. I've always had a thing for the orange ones also. This car wasn't orange when I got it in 1997 but it was in 1969 from the factory. Returning it to it's former glory (with a few changes on the way).

William

sleepertime

08-05-2015, 12:32 PM

Things are looking good, great to see progress.

:flag2:

Spiffav8

08-05-2015, 04:57 PM

Looks great!

How do you like that NRG setup and how was it to install? I've got one waiting and have been wondering. Also how far from the dash is the steering wheel now?

Keep at it!

:captain:

will69camaro

08-05-2015, 05:54 PM

I like it so far. It's out further but not sure how much more than stock. I can take some measurements if you let me know what exactly you want.

Panteracer

08-05-2015, 08:24 PM

I put a quick release on the Pantera a while back
that was for security when I traveled. Take the wheel into
the room at night. It also gave me more room for my long
legs since it moved the wheel closer to me. I hated it at first
because I felt too cramped in my arms. I almost took it off
but finally got used to it

Bob

BigBronco

08-06-2015, 11:21 AM

Looking good man. Was fun wrenching on it last week. Have to do it again soon.

will69camaro

08-25-2015, 03:35 AM

The car has been put on the ground with driveline in and sent to the turbo shop to have the piping done.

Still waiting on the RCI intake. Should be shipping in the next day or so.
http://i.imgur.com/4yquxFt.jpg

Front sheetmetal all went on so they know the limitations on the piping.
http://i.imgur.com/t7sHJGp.jpg

I gotta say it looks pretty good on the ground.
http://i.imgur.com/aluFVq8.jpg

Enroute to turbo shop!
http://i.imgur.com/qKjJ8Mk.jpg

Car has a new home for now.
http://i.imgur.com/7M2U7RP.jpg

At least it's in good company!
http://i.imgur.com/ffiaQDL.jpg

William

tmadden

08-25-2015, 08:39 PM

Just plain sick! Can't wait to hear it.

will69camaro

08-26-2015, 10:46 AM

Well talking to Kevin at M2K, it does look like those intercoolers will be a restriction so looking at going BIGGER.

Little disappointed that AutoRAD knew the power goals with the car and said no problem only to give a setup that looks like it'll support about 850hp at the flywheel (625cfm/ea). This was the biggest they could run and keep the stock hood brace, but the stock hood brace doesn't fit with these either.

I understand typically the people that they're building a setup like this for are "1000hp" but never push the car much, and I cant fault them for that.

M2K is going to be upgrading the cores from 7" x 11" x 3" (625cfm rated) to 10" x 15" x 3.5" (945cfm/ea) and may try to push it a little bigger if we can. And build a hood support and latch to work off the intercoolers since they're rigidly mounted.

New sized intercoolers should have me efficiently covered up to around 1300hp at the flywheel which is right in line with what I'm hoping it will make!

Does anyone have any advice or leads on what to use for a hood latch? I like the ones I'm seeing posted on Lou's Change and Stielow's cars but cant find much detail on the latch itself and how they made it work. I saw one that was on screaming performance
http://screaminperformance.com/images/67-69%20camaro%20hood%20latch%20assy2.JPG but it appears they're out of stock...

Any help there?
William

67RSRAG

08-26-2015, 05:52 PM

I believe its out of VW Jetta

rickpaw

08-27-2015, 05:52 AM

Will,

Here's a thread from pt.com on how to obtain the parts and build your own.

http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/111385-Cable-activated-hood-latch-diy

will69camaro

08-27-2015, 07:07 AM

Yea it's funny, Casey (MEENAggie) already sent me that link in a PM. Doing a little more research and seeing if M2K can build a bracket off of the intercoolers to hold the hood latch and just eliminate the vertical brace all together!

I like the idea of an internal hood release.

William

NvrDun71

09-01-2015, 10:35 AM

Man sorry to hear about the Autorad/Intercooler issues, but sounds like it is in the right shop to address those issues. Awesome to see this thing moving forward again! You might hit up the guys at Sled Alley to see if they have any suggestions on the hood latch since they have been doing alot of the fab work on Stielow's latest builds?

Vince@Meanstreets

09-10-2015, 12:30 AM

don't know how I missed the updates but its looking great Will.

waynieZ

09-10-2015, 07:22 AM

don't know how I missed the updates but its looking great Will.

I thought the same thine when you bumped it up , very nice Will.

will69camaro

09-10-2015, 11:35 AM

don't know how I missed the updates but its looking great Will.

Thanks! There are a few updates and looking to post a few more soon. Had to wait on some WG piping and waiting on the intake manifold to ship. RCI is finishing it up now and will be shipping it out tomorrow morning I'm told.

I thought the same thine when you bumped it up , very nice Will.

Thanks :) Your car is coming along well also!

Yours was April 2014, so it's needs a bit of surgery.

No problem I will shoot it your way as i believe it's still wrapped up in the box you sent to me last time! Should be simple!

The pump in the Hellcat module is a 267 but the output is reduced to about 318lph due to jet pump needs. Fitting the Hellcat module is tough due to the angled hat.

So few questions on this. I see Fore Innovations as mark suggested can make a 2 and 3 pump configuration for the 267 pump. Questions that came up I have are:

Those will no longer be PWM correct?
The primary pump (CTS-V) will retain PWM and then will be full time when the second pump setup comes on correct?
Am I still limited on fuel pressure if I do a Fore innovations pump hat with 267s as the CTS-V pump is limited to 65psi? I'm sure the 267 can support more, but if the V pump cant it will dump back through that to the tank correct?

Thanks,
William

CarlC

09-10-2015, 12:01 PM

Thanks! There are a few updates and looking to post a few more soon. Had to wait on some WG piping and waiting on the intake manifold to ship. RCI is finishing it up now and will be shipping it out tomorrow morning I'm told.

Thanks :) Your car is coming along well also!

No problem I will shoot it your way as i believe it's still wrapped up in the box you sent to me last time! Should be simple!

So few questions on this. I see Fore Innovations as mark suggested can make a 2 and 3 pump configuration for the 267 pump. Questions that came up I have are:

Those will no longer be PWM correct?
The primary pump (CTS-V) will retain PWM and then will be full time when the second pump setup comes on correct?
Am I still limited on fuel pressure if I do a Fore innovations pump hat with 267s as the CTS-V pump is limited to 65psi? I'm sure the 267 can support more, but if the V pump cant it will dump back through that to the tank correct?

Thanks,
William

The 267's will be PWM'ed but perhaps on a separate controller. If I can get my hands on a Fore twin setup it's easy for me to test to see if all of them can be done on one controller. We're already doing twin and triple 267's returnless with a VaporWorx controller.

The CTS-V has a safety valve that limits line pressure to no more than 74psi, but it starts to bleed at 64-65psi. What can be done here is to put an inline check valve just after the CTS-V outlet (before it T's into the 267's but after the CTS-V pressure sensor). Once the 267's pressure increases to the point that the flow reverses to the CTS-V, it will shut. Once the downstream pressure reduces, the valve opens and the CTS-V comes online.

So, with the check valve, line pressure can increase (including manifold referenced.) Just be aware of the pump performance at the intended pressure, and if in doubt, have it flow tested.

One key function that the Fore setup has is the crossover connection. This "bleed" is needed for low fuel demand conditions, so don't plug it.

The difficult part of all this is the low-flow/idle/cruise requirement. We're talking systems that require up to 60a to drive at WOT, but not overheat the fuel during cruise/idle in a true returnless system. Considering that fuel pumps are typically in the 1/3 efficientcy range, that's a lot of heat to disipate unless the pumps are PWM controlled and staged.

will69camaro

09-10-2015, 01:25 PM

The 267's will be PWM'ed but perhaps on a separate controller. If I can get my hands on a Fore twin setup it's easy for me to test to see if all of them can be done on one controller. We're already doing twin and triple 267's returnless with a VaporWorx controller.

When I get to that point, if it looks like I'll have issues with two CTS-V pumps, even with a BAP, I am willing to send the pump modules directly to you (even a CTS-V) so we can test flow and compatability to run on one controller.

The CTS-V has a safety valve that limits line pressure to no more than 74psi, but it starts to bleed at 64-65psi. What can be done here is to put an inline check valve just after the CTS-V outlet (before it T's into the 267's but after the CTS-V pressure sensor). Once the 267's pressure increases to the point that the flow reverses to the CTS-V, it will shut. Once the downstream pressure reduces, the valve opens and the CTS-V comes online.

The only issue I see here, is my second set of pumps (2-3 267's) will need to support the full fuel demands of the power. If a check valve shuts to stop the backflow through the CTS-V, then that pump is providing no benetif. If that's the case, why use the CTS-V pump in the first place if the 267's can be made to run PWM and support the power. Just a thought.

So, with the check valve, line pressure can increase (including manifold referenced.) Just be aware of the pump performance at the intended pressure, and if in doubt, have it flow tested.

Good to know. That would definitely be priority for as mentioned concern about the pump performance above (267's providing all fueling at big power application)

One key function that the Fore setup has is the crossover connection. This "bleed" is needed for low fuel demand conditions, so don't plug it.

How does that crossover connection ("bleed") help with low fuel demand? I haven't researched it much so asking for explanation on my ignorance.

The difficult part of all this is the low-flow/idle/cruise requirement. We're talking systems that require up to 60a to drive at WOT, but not overheat the fuel during cruise/idle in a true returnless system. Considering that fuel pumps are typically in the 1/3 efficientcy range, that's a lot of heat to disipate unless the pumps are PWM controlled and staged.

This is the benefit of your controller correct? Allows the PWM usage on the pump and keep heat down in the fuel system.

CarlC

09-10-2015, 03:11 PM

When I get to that point, if it looks like I'll have issues with two CTS-V pumps, even with a BAP, I am willing to send the pump modules directly to you (even a CTS-V) so we can test flow and compatability to run on one controller.

The only issue I see here, is my second set of pumps (2-3 267's) will need to support the full fuel demands of the power. If a check valve shuts to stop the backflow through the CTS-V, then that pump is providing no benetif. If that's the case, why use the CTS-V pump in the first place if the 267's can be made to run PWM and support the power. Just a thought.

Good to know. That would definitely be priority for as mentioned concern about the pump performance above (267's providing all fueling at big power application)

How does that crossover connection ("bleed") help with low fuel demand? I haven't researched it much so asking for explanation on my ignorance.

This is the benefit of your controller correct? Allows the PWM usage on the pump and keep heat down in the fuel system.

Correct, the PWM function does:

1) Reduce heat. For most constant pressure systems it is typically a 50% reduction. Manifold referenced is usually around 66% reduction.

2) Electronic pressure regulation.

3) Returnless. No pressure regulator, return lines, etc.

4) Increase pump life.

Twin 267's on their own may be enough to feed your build, triple for sure, but there's no good way around the CTS-V pressure limitation if it to be added to the total fuel flow unless the pressure is under 65psi. The purpose of the single CTS-V is that since it has a reservoir to contain the fuel around the pumps and jet pumps to keep it full, it will allow for very low liquid level driving. The 267's would only come on when needed.

Some fuel needs to move through the pump during PWM. In traditional mechanical regulator setups the pump basically blasts past the regulator and the excess fuel returned to the tank. In this case, the column in front of the pump is compressible. For returnless, everything in front of the module outlet is essentially incompressible at no/low fuel demand since there is no return (mechanical regulator spring.) At very low fuel demand, especially at key on/low/idle, this means the pump is trying to push against an incompressible column. This causes the pump to chug. The fluid pressure downstream of the pump (pressure sensor) is low enough to allow PWM operation to start, but there is not enough volume for the pump to have smooth continious operation. Hence, pressure spikes, the PWM turns off, pressure drops, PWM on...... to the tune of about 10hz, all the while the pump is jumping like crazy. In the fuel module the jet pumps allow enough fuel to bypass for continious smooth operation. For twin 267's, the jet pump connection, which is also powered by high-pressure fuel, performs the same function.

The trick here is that the 267's are a different animal than the CTS-V, so different controller tuning is needed. "Tuning" may seem like a simple deal, but when dealing with these kinds of power levels while demanding smooth operation, it's boatloads of work. That's why testing a combination of CTS-V + 267's would be needed for validation.

will69camaro

09-10-2015, 03:36 PM

CarlC

09-12-2015, 01:20 AM

Understood. Talking to m2k I think I'll run the two v pumps for now. See how they like boost and the power limitations. The. When the time comes, look at 2-3 267s and send those and v pump and controller to you for testing!

Ctsv pump seems maybe more suited for driving on a regular basis and have check valve and big pumps for big power. Can ramp pressure up on pump to offset boost pressure!

Manifold referenced can be done with any of the current VaporWorx controllers. The standard controller is tuned for 3bar, but tunes are available for other sensors (1, 2, 2.5, etc.) As a testament to just how good the ID injectors are, Mark is running 1200's at a static 65psi with good idle control.

will69camaro

09-12-2015, 06:10 AM

Oh yea I know Injector Dynamics makes an awesome injector. Talked to Tony Palo and a tech at ID before swapping my 1300s out for 1700s!

They said idle may be a little tougher with the 1700 but what can you expect for an injector of that size!

will69camaro

09-15-2015, 11:39 AM

I have made some progress on the turbo side of things and some more changes yet again.

Changes include:

Intercooler Upgrade - Support more power as old ones were a little small...
ID1700 to replace ID1300 - Support power on E85 if I decide to go that route. Went larger to assist with injector performance with lower fuel pressure (system capped at 65psi)
Hood Change (planned) - Wanted to change up the look a bit.
Hood pins instead of latch (planned) - Required for larger intercoolers. More I thought about it the less I trusted a makeshift hood latch. Rather be SURE the hood will stay shut!

Now onto the pics!
Car arrived at M2K and was put beside my friends build.
http://i.imgur.com/NXfmaRi.jpg

Last time you saw the car it needed a lot of turbo fab work and engine bay looked like this.
http://i.imgur.com/4yquxFt.jpg

Kevin got to work with the fabrication and managed to mount the turbos in a few hours.
http://i.imgur.com/Fr76OCP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aB9Idz3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/h5BEYcW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SVSHZs2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PNWbLbB.jpg

There will be a panel infront of this sealing off the filter side from the engine bay. It will have a pass through with a big filter on the fender side and will have air fed from the grille.
http://i.imgur.com/l4Q7EMq.jpg

Mounting is complete and ready for more pieces to be installed.
http://i.imgur.com/HwmexZo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9PjQTGC.jpg

Waste gates were to be a tight fit given the location the turbos were placed with these headers.
http://i.imgur.com/BKhii9p.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/K39Z9h9.jpg

will69camaro

09-15-2015, 11:41 AM

With some careful cutting of tubing to run the WG, we ended up with a nice symmetrical system that should allow for excellent control of the boost levels.
http://i.imgur.com/aggNrZz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Sg3J65w.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5dIczNf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7fcKvH6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eC5iPYg.jpg

Not only that but the turbos are even side to side in engine bay placement.
http://i.imgur.com/QeyRDUe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SfUhNJi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/I8mGmwg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/M6119P8.jpg

Time to start downpipe and wastegate dumps.
http://i.imgur.com/7Ah2R0f.jpg

Beyond that we are still waiting on the RCI intake to arrive.
http://i.imgur.com/sk46bOA.jpg

I have a mock intake they're sending me that will arrive this week, and he updated me with picture of the intake runners from my intake. This started off as a 5in x 5in x 18in solid block of aluminum!
http://i.imgur.com/Jb8JZYk.jpg

After some further discussion with Kevin at M2K and the Gerhard at Bell intercoolers, we discovered the old setup was only efficient to about 850hp (flywheel). We upgraded those cores from 7x11x3" cores to 11x15x3.5" cores. These are capable of efficiently supporting 1250 hp (flywheel). M2K will be building the tanks for these today and integrating them to the mounting positions on my radiator.
http://i.imgur.com/opmmAPH.jpg

jeds

09-15-2015, 11:52 AM

You are killing it with this build. One of my favorites.

Good to see things progressing!

will69camaro

09-15-2015, 12:07 PM

This change required me to look at new latching for the hood as that was the restriction for the original intercooler sizing. I wasn't happy looking at making the typical style work that pro-touring guys use, which incorporates an early 90s VW latch system. So I decided to go with Aerocatch latches.
http://i.imgur.com/cR2LB1v.jpg

With this change I started kicking around the idea of changing out the hood to give the car a look to stand out a bit. I found a deal on an Anvil Carbon hood with bare underside (hybrid carbon / fiberglass construction).
http://i.imgur.com/O39T8Zr.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/XByrg4Q.jpg

It's a bare construction underneath so will be light and give a little more room for the intake. (Pictured is full carbon, mine will be fiberglass and painted satin black on the bottom side).
http://i.imgur.com/ebqWk2H.jpg?1

I am looking to add vents to this above the turbo to assist in letting that heat out and try to relieve pressure under the hood at high speed (keep the hood from pulling up). Pictured is the vents that will be used, but they will be relocated forward and outward to be directly above the turbos (the reason for the measurements earlier).
http://i.imgur.com/kqfPdGA.jpg

Let me know what you guys think and feel free to criticize where needed!

William

will69camaro

09-15-2015, 12:07 PM

I got a comparison shot of the new intercooler vs the original...I guess you can say things are getting pretty serious...
http://i.imgur.com/XTVtcZ9.jpg

Vince@Meanstreets

09-15-2015, 12:28 PM

Must be a nice change of pace for those guys at M2K to have to do a turbo build on something with SO MUCH ROOM! :rofl:

will69camaro

09-15-2015, 12:56 PM

Must be a nice change of pace for those guys at M2K to have to do a turbo build on something with SO MUCH ROOM! :rofl:

Kevin was pretty excited about it :)

will69camaro

09-15-2015, 06:05 PM

Pics of the intercooler that was worked on today. He didn't stay very long, so this will be finished up tomorrow.

He sent me this and said it was my CAD (Carboard Aided Draft) fabrication for tank ends.
http://i.imgur.com/cxGokbT.jpg

Cut and folded.
http://i.imgur.com/M99bLqt.jpg

Enough for both intercoolers
http://i.imgur.com/ouSLV7W.jpg

First one put together.
http://i.imgur.com/58OVxHz.jpg

Driver's side mocked in. Still have to put the connections for the inlet/outlet and the mounting tabs to be finished.
http://i.imgur.com/k07QCMR.jpg

Looks massive in there!
http://i.imgur.com/Gth9wK8.jpg

And JUST clears my fog lights.
http://i.imgur.com/uSQdu2W.jpg

William

waynieZ

09-15-2015, 06:17 PM

Those should make a nice difference in there. Sweet!

will69camaro

09-15-2015, 08:38 PM

They should!

NvrDun71

09-15-2015, 09:02 PM

hersheys69z

09-15-2015, 09:24 PM

Any idea when you will get it on the dyno?

will69camaro

09-15-2015, 09:28 PM

Nice updates William! Looks like some quality fab work being knocked out over there, once parts are in hand it looks like they don't mess around. That intake is ridiculous, looking forward to pics of that once you have it in hand

I'll make sure to get good pics and feel free to come see it when i have the actual manifold in hand.

Any idea when you will get it on the dyno?

It'll be a bit. Quite a bit of work left. Hoping its running in the next 6 months. Maybe not kill numbers by then but driving.

will69camaro

09-16-2015, 06:28 AM

Another comparison shot.
http://i.imgur.com/itp7KXc.jpg

will69camaro

09-16-2015, 10:47 AM

Well another round of pictures came in with more progress and my mock intake showed up today from RCI so we can complete the cold side now.

http://i.imgur.com/qi2oekY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MqiCYSb.jpg

This is the opposite color of what i got. I got raw runners and black top.
http://i.imgur.com/F1AtsWD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Tudy3fY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aDQwGpv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TC0n9Vu.jpg

William

will69camaro

09-17-2015, 06:50 PM

Kevin and the guys at M2K got the charge pipe made and made absolutely sure it's level and symmetric! Cant express how happy I am with the work they're doing on this car!

http://i.imgur.com/JZlKqSQ.jpg

Even side to side!
http://i.imgur.com/cLF0Y6T.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zvNwp1L.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RKN5ypR.jpg

Looks amazing!
http://i.imgur.com/10JZVoM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OxUFHzQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XDnoa4N.jpg

William

sleepertime

09-17-2015, 08:00 PM

:G-Dub:
Wow it's looking great.
Quite an art project that you got going on with lots of nice jewelery...
:king:

will69camaro

09-17-2015, 08:14 PM

:G-Dub:

Thanks!

That's how i've felt lately except my smile isn't as big when the money starts flying.

Nine Ball

09-20-2015, 11:38 PM

Turbo kit is so badass. M2K is doing a great job, as expected. Can't wait to see you crest 200 mph in this bad boy.

Tony

will69camaro

09-21-2015, 07:03 AM

Turbo kit is so badass. M2K is doing a great job, as expected. Can't wait to see you crest 200 mph in this bad boy.

Tony

Thanks, I agree M2K is doing this stuff perfectly and keeping me updated at every step!

We'll see about cresting 200mph. It'll be a little bit but it'll have the power to push it there!

William

waynieZ

09-21-2015, 09:44 AM

That looks nice in there, I love seeing an engine bay with the turbo tubing.

will69camaro

10-29-2015, 01:51 PM

Downpipe Updates. M2K knows fab work pretty damn well.

Pics:
Driver side downpipe
http://i.imgur.com/Ei9xHWD.jpg

Driver side downpipe in the car
http://i.imgur.com/E1DRmtO.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/IAxwWqB.jpg?1

Looks a little closer to the steering shaft
http://i.imgur.com/iHKXCYZ.jpg?1

Top view of Driver side downpipe
http://i.imgur.com/FAWWUvT.jpg?1

But he said plenty of room and took a pic showing that
http://i.imgur.com/lqkXQpq.jpg?1

Passenger side downpipe
http://i.imgur.com/U8ExF9J.jpg

Passenger side downpipe in the car
http://i.imgur.com/ot3DA3f.jpg?1

Plenty of room for the starter
http://i.imgur.com/BQDBqEX.jpg?1

Completed downpipes
http://i.imgur.com/0IqW8oO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pWsiSle.jpg

Sadly for the BOV, i cant put it where I really wanted it. I wanted it on the end of the charge pipe to mimic the WG placement. I also cant put them in the middle as there isn't room between the charge pipe and the radiator... I just told them to put it where they thought it would look best. We'll see how it turns out!

Part two of the downpipes. Passenger side getting knocked out.
http://i.imgur.com/VQvonu5.jpg

Bracket made to hold the downpipe.
http://i.imgur.com/xEt6AMT.jpg?1

I think the fit to the floor is quite nice.
http://i.imgur.com/nRYlYeO.jpg

And they did a great job centering it with the trans member pass through locations.
http://i.imgur.com/bCyllrV.jpg?1

67pro-street

10-29-2015, 03:55 PM

awesome car dude!! great job keeping at it and constantly making progress.

will69camaro

10-29-2015, 05:56 PM

Thanks. Can't wait to get it home and finish it. M2K Motorsports is killing it on the turbo kit. Couldn't be happier.

will69camaro

10-30-2015, 06:46 AM

Updated pics.

Both downpipes completed.
http://i.imgur.com/y0YXcwz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lQ1nTey.jpg

Wastegate piping started.
http://i.imgur.com/JO8Vap4.jpg

Overall view showing wastegate piping and BOV placement.
http://i.imgur.com/RqZ5unr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/K6IfZKh.jpg

William

Evan Iroc-Z

10-30-2015, 07:39 AM

Are you going to atmospherically vent your WG? I keep going back and forth with mine.

waynieZ

10-30-2015, 07:51 AM

M2k did an amazing job,it looks so clean.

will69camaro

10-30-2015, 08:00 AM

Are you going to atmospherically vent your WG? I keep going back and forth with mine.

I am not. It will be put into the downpipe. Open WG are ok on race cars. I think street car would get annoying.

M2k did an amazing job,it looks so clean.

Agreed. They're awesome and Kevin (owner/fabricator) is as honest as it gets.

WSSix

10-30-2015, 08:58 AM

Very nicely done!

will69camaro

10-30-2015, 08:02 PM

Thanks. I'll pass the word along. I can't take credit for the kit.

Al Moreno

10-30-2015, 10:15 PM

Very nice!

gnx7

10-31-2015, 11:34 AM

beautiful build. where are those hood vents from you plan to use?

will69camaro

10-31-2015, 12:00 PM

Anvil

will69camaro

11-05-2015, 01:14 PM

Wastegate re-circulation piping is completed.

http://i.imgur.com/K2GneWt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9h3eo8Q.jpg

Completed down pipe sections with the wastegate re-circulation tie in.
http://i.imgur.com/5cVubjs.jpg

He went to building the exhaust and made me an x-pipe and welded in the vibrant resonators to try and kill a little more sound/drone than the turbos will.
http://i.imgur.com/OPgUbl2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Yf3beAH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YWmtaxo.jpg

System installed in the car.
http://i.imgur.com/vnUHm6x.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FmZzokN.jpg

Very happy with how far up he has the exhaust tucked under the car. The car is as low as it would ever be right now. It'll be coming up prob 1" or so do be at "driving" level.
http://i.imgur.com/DWvpFB9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wQrY1Pw.jpg

William

will69camaro

11-08-2015, 11:27 AM

It's got a bit left yet but it's slowly shaping up.

Few updates. Wastegate dump is done.
http://i.imgur.com/Jp74tLS.jpg

Fabricated the close outs for the filters in the fender.
http://i.imgur.com/gLeMNZB.jpg

Passenger side installed.
http://i.imgur.com/3ujNVSs.jpg

Drivers side installed.
http://i.imgur.com/BOp5ENT.jpg

And this is the start of where the filter will be. This is just behind the headlight. Should be plenty of fresh air in there.
http://i.imgur.com/V8anP83.jpg

Hoping for more progress soon. Should be competing the kit early next week.

randy

11-08-2015, 03:18 PM

I made a set of those fender close out panels also. Couldn't believe how simple they were. Maybe if i can figure out a way to scan the template Ill post for everyone else to make. Mine uses the little hole in the fender and secured on the bottom.

Let me know what trim you might put around the edge of it to stop them from rattling on the inner fender

Spiffav8

11-08-2015, 04:04 PM

Nice! Oddly I was just talking to a couple guys about this over the weekend.

waynieZ

11-08-2015, 04:43 PM

will69camaro

11-08-2015, 06:27 PM

Yea GAP racing has made some for stock style core support and attaches at the top. They look excellent. I'll let you know what I end up using for trim if necessary.

will69camaro

11-08-2015, 06:30 PM

Found a picture of GAP Racings panel.

http://i.imgur.com/XV20a9r.jpg

randy

11-08-2015, 08:13 PM

Yea GAP racing has made some for stock style core support and attaches at the top. They look excellent. I'll let you know what I end up using for trim if necessary.

the closeout panels use a nice trim piece. If we can get that exact trim it would be perfect

will69camaro

11-09-2015, 02:15 PM

Update, intake is on and hardlines going in. Car should be done and ready to be picked up today.

Holley boost control solenoid and MAP sensor/IAT/etc installed below intake.
http://i.imgur.com/0ax6bhZ.jpg

BOV hardlines run to tapped port on intake
http://i.imgur.com/25oEWqg.jpg

BOV and WG lines hardlines in car
http://i.imgur.com/x7s3AyG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fGg1wh2.jpg

Some added flair for the WG vent
http://i.imgur.com/5byRLIS.jpg

William

will69camaro

11-11-2015, 08:45 AM

Car is done at M2K, turbo kit finished.

Filter placement is exactly like I pictured it in my head.
http://i.imgur.com/MMUO87u.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/m4cn4af.jpg

And did a clearance check on driveshaft to x-pipe. Looks like it'll have to jump the car to get it contact between the two.
http://i.imgur.com/yYhwcCh.jpg?1

will69camaro

11-15-2015, 07:10 AM

She's home.

http://i.imgur.com/e9zYWBj.jpg

will69camaro

11-15-2015, 12:10 PM

Built the "DSE" cribs. Did 16x16 and stacked 8. Carpet on bottom to protect my nice floors.

http://i.imgur.com/LXcARv6.jpg

Al Moreno

11-15-2015, 04:14 PM

Built the "DSE" cribs. Did 16x16 and stacked 8. Carpet on bottom to protect my nice floors.

http://i.imgur.com/LXcARv6.jpg

Will your doing an incredible job! It must be nerve racking working around a freshly painted car.

will69camaro

11-15-2015, 04:37 PM

Sadly the paint job wasn't great to begin with. Long story that I'm trying to forget. It's got a few nicks on the way. I'll have it touched up once complete.

A full paint job I'm sure is in this cars future. I plan to beat on the car a bit first.

streetbird

11-16-2015, 10:32 AM

Very nice turbo setup

lsuguy

11-16-2015, 12:48 PM

Great looking ride man. I have been watching this one on Instagram as well.

I may have overlooked it but how much boost and what kind of power levels you going for?

will69camaro

11-16-2015, 03:18 PM

Very nice turbo setup

Thanks. M2K did a hell of a job on it.

Great looking ride man. I have been watching this one on Instagram as well.

I may have overlooked it but how much boost and what kind of power levels you going for?

Ah excellent.

Power. We'll see what it takes but I figure on kill 20+psi and 11-1200.

Pump gas should be around 15 and 1000.

will69camaro

01-11-2016, 07:09 AM

I got a little done and car is "progressing" as best it can. Decided to say screw it and get the firewall finished so some deconstruction was involved.

How the car started out. As you can see firewall above brake reservoirs is questionable...
http://i.imgur.com/qpIi5Gj.jpg

Started the teardown and pulled the turbo kit off completely.
http://i.imgur.com/7ICkY98.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KAUb8dH.jpg

With the turbo kit out of the way, the core support was pulled and the motor/transmission was pulled as a single unit.
http://i.imgur.com/AUVlHFr.jpg

Had some expert help that day with the twins (Big Bronco and Hellraiser)
http://i.imgur.com/SMSCClg.jpg

Even had a supervisor.
http://i.imgur.com/XG8hmhZ.jpg

Fenders removed and car put back on the ground to be sent to paint shop to have firewall finished/fixed.
http://i.imgur.com/pCWvFdI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aMeareb.jpg

Painter already did all the work to the car (since last Sunday). He gave me a deadline of this upcoming Sunday 1/10 to be finished (so i figured a good month there).
http://i.imgur.com/CAs2kyc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DklVJ9l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HSCItl8.jpg

New valence to replace my damaged one the first painter didn't fix.
http://i.imgur.com/xNGVmAn.jpg

Firewall finished
http://i.imgur.com/lmu4oMW.jpg

Car has mirrors mounted on it also (didn't send a pic but sent video).

William

will69camaro

01-11-2016, 07:10 AM

Got some parts in for the car like the new latches, etc and got my RFID key setup in.
http://i.imgur.com/V9wg0KA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cVdMVFn.jpg

Key fob is small...
http://i.imgur.com/JpjzXsM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uWEG1v4.jpg

Wiring is my daunting task next. I have a new DSE dash coming and a racepak and looking at mil spec (deutsch) connector options.

Well...That was faster than expected. Painter had the car 3 days...
http://i.imgur.com/yF6WrYH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/n7P6oe2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HhDLqlr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uYabx0z.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZS1wb0s.jpg

William

will69camaro

01-11-2016, 07:14 AM

Had some help yesterday while swapping oil pans and test fitting in the car before modifying it with turbo drains.

http://i.imgur.com/t893Zez.jpg

Took some doing solo to get the motor in and NOT touch the firewall...
http://i.imgur.com/v4zZyPo.jpg

PLENTY of room in there now!
http://i.imgur.com/VTuGL93.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qkNVs5l.jpg

Motor back out and waiting to be put on a stand so I can get the pan installed properly and do some checks (pushrods) and start the wiring.
http://i.imgur.com/gYgcBAi.jpg

Car looks good standing still even without a front end on it (mirrors installed).
http://i.imgur.com/IafTJoh.jpg

William

KPC67

01-11-2016, 07:25 AM

Looking Great Will!
You have to be happy about the quick turn around on the firewall.

Spiffav8

01-11-2016, 07:49 AM

Yeah....that's looking pretty bad ass!

:bigun2:

will69camaro

01-11-2016, 08:17 AM

Looking Great Will!
You have to be happy about the quick turn around on the firewall.

Definitely happy with that turnaround.

Work was fantastic on it.

will69camaro

01-11-2016, 08:20 AM

Yeah....that's looking pretty bad ass!

:bigun2:

Thanks. It's looking better. And coming together now!!!

SBDave

01-11-2016, 12:57 PM

Awesome!

dave

sleepertime

01-11-2016, 02:45 PM

Hey will the car is looking great.
How many sets have of bolts have you gone thru swapping out the front end parts??? :lol:

will69camaro

01-11-2016, 04:06 PM

Hey will the car is looking great.
How many sets have of bolts have you gone thru swapping out the front end parts??? :lol:

Through all the places it's been and bolts getting misplaced. I have two full sets from totally stainless and I think I'm still missing some...

waynieZ

01-11-2016, 08:43 PM

I'm lovin it! Nice job!

rickpaw

01-12-2016, 04:07 AM

Car is looking great Will.

Tu

SlowProgress

01-12-2016, 05:58 AM

This is coming out great. I love the shot with all the turbo hardware laying on the floor great stuff!

will69camaro

01-12-2016, 08:54 AM

Thanks. Slightly depressing but it'll get back to shape before TOO long.

will69camaro

02-04-2016, 07:24 AM

There has been some progress and hoping for some more this weekend.

Mounted the master cylinders on the new firewall and starting building the plan (and parts list) to get the brake lines completed.

http://i.imgur.com/4OBIWTR.jpg

Decided that building the brake lines on the rearend would be easier if it was out of the car, and have to pull it out anyway to change the gears out.

Crazy how dusty it's gotten over the years and travels from shop to shop.

http://i.imgur.com/iUFn5v5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uHQEJHD.jpg

I wiped down the housing and prepared it for the rear brake installation
http://i.imgur.com/lU1LjmZ.jpg

Brakes installed on both sides. This took some doing as I had lost the installation instructions, Tobin at Kore3 has since emailed them to me, so I will re-verify everything when I do final installation after the gear change this weekend.

http://i.imgur.com/0xPaTbA.jpg

Glad the wheel fits as I hadn't checked this previously. I was sure it would as the templates for the calipers had been sent to Forgeline when we spec'd the wheels.

http://i.imgur.com/v86ZQXC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Gx8SSPD.jpg

While this was going on, I sold my old dash as it was going to cost more to fix it for a racepak, than to just buy a new one and sell the old one.

I will fill this with racepak and a/c vent(s) and a controller for the a/c and the various buttons/switches for the car.

http://i.imgur.com/P44mB8Q.jpg

Thanks to Ron Sutton, I have one of the new IQ3s Racepak. This is their new street friendly dash.

http://i.imgur.com/UuBd8cq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zCoJU45.jpg

This weekend I will be installing the new ring gear in the rearend (3.50 to replace the 4.10). I will be installing the brake lines on the housing, assuming the tee fitting required arrives tomorrow (on time). The rearend will be put back under the car and secured for the final time!

I'm sure that will take me through this weekend, but if it doesn't, the car will be going back up on the cribs and I'll start working on the remaining brake lines.

One thought I've been kicking around, is about using a non-A/C dash with the vintage air unit and putting two vents on the dash. I'd be stealing a vent from my passenger, but i think they'll still be ok with one on the passenger side. What are your thoughts on this?

William

sleepertime

02-04-2016, 05:15 PM

:weld:
Good to see the car going back in the direction of assembly instead of more tear down.
Are you talking about splitting the two center air ducts and bringing one to the drivers side.
The vintage air has four individual ducts coming out of the unit. Two for the middle and one that goes to far driver side and one to the far passenger side.
:flag2:

will69camaro

02-04-2016, 07:10 PM

Hmmm. Hadn't looked at it.

Not sure what I'd do with the second for the center vent

William

frankv11

02-05-2016, 06:42 AM

that is some very nice work, especially the SS pipe fit

will69camaro

02-05-2016, 06:54 AM

Thanks, and I agree. The SS fitting is excellent, and M2K did an excellent job fabbing all the turbo kit etc. Couldn't be happier with the work that Kevin did.

Price way high but he justifies it with the quality of work.

William

will69camaro

02-08-2016, 12:15 PM

Gears are swapped out and the 4.11's are listed for sale.

Diff will be put back in the housing today and rear re-assembled.

I did some pattern checking on pushrod length and all appears to be in good order so will button the motor back up after rearend is back together.

Hoping to get started on the rear brake lines tomorrow, then get that axle back in the car! REALLY hoping to have the motor back in the car in a couple weeks.

will69camaro

03-03-2016, 10:13 AM

Oil pan is on for good and bottom of motor is buttoned up.
http://i.imgur.com/kM7DteW.jpg

Top side has pushrods measured and installed as well.
http://i.imgur.com/n9ehpds.jpg

Started making brake lines. Had to order a lot of fittings specific to the application. Spent more time than I'd like to admit trying to flare the brake lines.
http://i.imgur.com/CCB2tl4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KUPDISj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Z6YzfP8.jpg

Then started trying to flare. It didn't go well.
http://i.imgur.com/X68FlnE.jpg

Finally got it figured out and finished up the rear lines
http://i.imgur.com/oiK0WSe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DbJdGJ2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dhJNA2v.jpg

I have the flex lines now to finish off the run to the calipers and will do that when I get back to the back to finish up the brakeline from the master (this weekend).

Also had a scratched to hell diff fill cap. Took 30 minutes and sanded out the gouges and ended up with a brushed finish.
http://i.imgur.com/Oa5NetL.jpg

will69camaro

03-03-2016, 10:14 AM

Rearend went back in.
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http://i.imgur.com/qbrCRyS.jpg

I had the front end part finalizing the brake setup and making sure everything was nice and tight.
http://i.imgur.com/5d4nebp.jpg

She's back on blocks and ready to have the brakes completed and the motor re-installed.
http://i.imgur.com/Jgpi3eX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IvtDG70.jpg

will69camaro

03-03-2016, 10:16 AM

Changed the hardware on the engine mounts. One of the threads was jacked up, so there was one bolt on the drivers side missing (discovered when I pulled the motor).
http://i.imgur.com/j00CP6B.jpg

Figured since I'm changing them, I'd just put arp hardware.
http://i.imgur.com/tuffM37.jpg

As you could see in the previous picture. I got the moroso "roll control" (i.e. Line lock) installed.
http://i.imgur.com/s32DOFk.jpg

Everything is bolted with rivserts and 1/4-20 stainless caps head hardware.

Next up was placing the brake light pressure switch. Since I have the Wilwood pedals it's not as easy to adapt a plunger style brake light switch. This came highly recommended.
http://i.imgur.com/9hE0qj8.jpg

I build the simple line between the two of those.
http://i.imgur.com/6hKdzAS.jpg

Now starting the lines off the master cylinder. Almost done with the line for the front brakes (to the switch).
http://i.imgur.com/VC9ZGjs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qWNcZ2v.jpg

I have both flex lines mounted and secured and the remaining hardware I need to finish the fronts arrived yesterday so I will finish that line today or tomorrow and then the motor can be returned to it's final resting place.

William