1969 Camaro Restomod Project Thread

[will69camaro]

Yes I was. Got there late!!!

[BigBronco]

Yes I was. Got there late!!!

Congrats on re-popping this cars cherry with the new setup. Need to keep a list of the victims ;)

[will69camaro]

Congrats on re-popping this cars cherry with the new setup. Need to keep a list of the victims ;)

1. C6 grandsport with a&a blower
2. ????

[Zoomin]

1. C6 grandsport with a&a blower
2. ????

Oh, would have loved to have seen that.

[Dr. Jekyll]

Nice to see these pics! Looks good.

[will69camaro]

Oh, would have loved to have seen that.

I'm sent. Not sure how this site looks at "spirited driving."

Nice to see these pics! Looks good.

Appreciate it. Lots of finishing needed but it's getting there.

[Centerforce]

The Camaro's looking good out there! We're sure you were breaking some necks out there at the meet.

[will69camaro]

The Camaro's looking good out there! We're sure you were breaking some necks out there at the meet.

I'd say a few. I got there a little late so the crowd had dispersed some. Needs to be complete to draw a big crowd I suspect but I was answering questions and talking to people the entire time.

Probably didn't help that I was about 2-300ft from a Pagani, a P1 GTR and some other high end rare cars...

[72Z/28]

William I got my NRG short hub and Gen 2.8 quick release along with momo steering wheel. The quick release has come with horn botton retainer ring and some thin round spacers.

Just wondering whether you ended up installinh the retainer ring and the other thin spacers (not sure what they are called) when you did the installation.

Will appreciate your input sir

[will69camaro]

William I got my NRG short hub and Gen 2.8 quick release along with momo steering wheel. The quick release has come with horn botton retainer ring and some thin round spacers.

Just wondering whether you ended up installinh the retainer ring and the other thin spacers (not sure what they are called) when you did the installation.

Will appreciate your input sir

I did install the split metal ring that is about 1/2" thick, it's keeping the horn button from pressing in. I did not use the thin shims that came with it.

[72Z/28]

I did install the split metal ring that is about 1/2" thick, it's keeping the horn button from pressing in. I did not use the thin shims that came with it.

Thanks for the great input sir.

[will69camaro]

Since the last update the glass has been installed and adjusted. Same guy that came by and did my front and rear glass came and helped me install it.

Got the interior door handles and lock mechanism installed. Had some troubles but that seems to be the way it goes.
Weatherstripping is installed around door. About to go outside and start installing the door panels and quarter panel.
After that I may start on the cowl panel and lower windshield trim to finish out the outside of the car.

I did manage to get the car out of the garage for a little bit on Friday. Took it to lunch with some friends.
http://i.imgur.com/YlU72N4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/q4OonZV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/s6YUr4f.jpg

[will69camaro]

Well locks and handles work. Got the door weatherstripping all done and moved to doing trunk weatherstripping and the missing cowl panel.

I asked on IG and results were very one sided. Factory (vented) cowl or aftermarket fiberglass one. Downside to vented is no wipers planned for now (will in the future) so it will have holes that are unused.
Factory:
http://i.imgur.com/SnPWFnw.jpg
Aftermarket:
http://i.imgur.com/vguFkKJ.jpg

Moved on from there to work on door panels. Got my ass kicked a bit by those today. Will try again later in the week.
http://i.imgur.com/W3KLdD8.jpg

[will69camaro]

Edit cant seem to avoid massive photos. Resolving the issues on my end.

[tubbed69]

Car is really looking good Will,glad your getting close and enjoying it:trophy-1302:

[syborg tt]

Love the seat, steering wheel and the door panels. They look perfect and it still feels like a 69 Camaro.

? who's hub is that for the steering wheel.



Moved on from there to work on door panels. Got my ass kicked a bit by those today. Will try again later in the week.
http://i.imgur.com/W3KLdD8.jpg

[will69camaro]

Car is really looking good Will,glad your getting close and enjoying it:trophy-1302:

Yea I have been enjoying it beyond a few tedious activities lately and frustration with part fitment. I'm getting beyond that though.

Love the seat, steering wheel and the door panels. They look perfect and it still feels like a 69 Camaro.

? who's hub is that for the steering wheel.

Hub is from NRG, it's the "slim." to keep the wheel as close to the dash as possible. And I agree, I like that it still looks like a 69 camaro inside, definitely feels like an old car driving it.

[Zoomin]

Other than the relief of the hits to the credit card, do you kinda of miss the crunch of the build process? It's hard for me to transition to waxing from turning wrenches.

I feel sorry for people that didn't get to see the real artistry of what lurks behind that grill

[will69camaro]

Other than the relief of the hits to the credit card, do you kinda of miss the crunch of the build process? It's hard for me to transition to waxing from turning wrenches.

I feel sorry for people that didn't get to see the real artistry of what lurks behind that grill

Luckily that art isn't coated so from the front you can definitely still see them. I like that you have to look for it though!

I definitely dont miss the CC bills. I think year before last and first part of last year I had a hell of a "push" to complete the car and hit the budget hard. Everyone that says, set a budget and plan to spend 2-3x that is entirely correct. Except in my case, with the duration of the project and me changing my mind and not keeping a strict budget, I overshot my original goal by 5-6x...

I still got some wrench turning but hopefully for now it's the cleaner kind that previously (ecu tuning, small things here and there). I've had my fill of the dirty work for now (on this car at least).

[syborg tt]

Luckily that art isn't coated so from the front you can definitely still see them. I like that you have to look for it though!

I definitely dont miss the CC bills. I think year before last and first part of last year I had a hell of a "push" to complete the car and hit the budget hard. Everyone that says, set a budget and plan to spend 2-3x that is entirely correct. Except in my case, with the duration of the project and me changing my mind and not keeping a strict budget, I overshot my original goal by 5-6x...

I still got some wrench turning but hopefully for now it's the cleaner kind that previously (ecu tuning, small things here and there). I've had my fill of the dirty work for now (on this car at least).

Budget Smuget - Call me crazy but I call it therapy.

[will69camaro]

Linelock test. Didn't set the brake hard enough. Will have to try again.

Credit to BigBronco for wielding the camera and providing the spot of asphalt.

QKxER427S5w

[NvrDun71]

Linelock test. Didn't set the brake hard enough. Will have to try again.

Credit to BigBronco for wielding the camera and providing the spot of asphalt

Beast!

[Josh@Ridetech]

It sounds awesome!!

[BigBronco]

Was a good time this weekend. Car runs great! :hello:

[will69camaro]

To hear it feels as fast as your Z on dope makes me happy. Can only imagine how it's gonna be when we finally start putting some power to it. I love it as is already so hard to justify pushing it more right now. Beauty of turbo setup I guess!

[Dr. Jekyll]

Sounds and looks great! Well done. I'm thinking the line lock not working for now is saving a bit of your tires :-)

[will69camaro]

Sounds and looks great! Well done. I'm thinking the line lock not working for now is saving a bit of your tires :-)

Yea that's true. I think the issues run deeper than the line lock. Working on sorting that out with the help of Ron Sutton.

Definitely need these tires to last as long as they can!

[will69camaro]

Drove it into work Friday.
http://i.imgur.com/ZviM9s8.jpg

Got it inspected and complete registration next week and order the custom plates.

Changing oil and plugs now and chasing some leaks the car still has. Priority gonna be shifting to ac as summer is quickly approaching and it gets HOT in the car. Definitely don't know how my 16yr old self lived in this car with no ac...

[Zoomin]

Bet you love the commute in that beast. Such a cool ride, you don't need air Will. :thumbsup:

[Dr. Jekyll]

Man that looks good. Global warming for sure! I never had AC in my rods growing up either and couldn't imagine that today either!

[will69camaro]

Got the car up in the air and took the front wheels off. Easiest way to change the plugs. Swapped out the TR7IX for some colder (and cheaper) B8EFS, gapped to .020-.022".

​​http://i.imgur.com/gjqyNqL.jpg

Since it was up in the air already, i started chasing down some pesky leaks (power steering a bit, small amount of coolant, and some trans fluid that i cant seem to get to stop!!!)
Ontop of that, I swapped out the BR30 breaking oil (second round) and put in some Shell Rotella T as the "full use" oil. The last round of BR30 was short lived as I had an O2 problem that resulted in a SERIOUS fueling issue and didn't want to risk oil that could have had significant fuel contamination.

While I was doing the oil change, decided now was as good a time as any to put in the oil cooler.
http://i.imgur.com/YawcdIb.jpg

Hoses are done but i'm not in love with the routing so may change them up later on, it's functional but not ideal.
http://i.imgur.com/oQKt8Hf.jpg

Cooler also is a little low, it's about 1" lower than the front spoioler, but that is shorter than stock and it's still well above the cross member. I think it'll survive just fine in that location.
http://i.imgur.com/tGkz6R1.jpg

After completing that I went for a spirited drive with some friends to a local car meet this past Sunday. Didn't get any shots of the Twin Peaks girls by the car, but that will be an opportunity explored at a later time.
http://i.imgur.com/aBhnyIS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/40vAGK2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JOHvpoB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YN8d2tD.jpg

Front row parking!
http://i.imgur.com/FKNa2iu.jpg

[72Z/28]

Hi William

You mentioned you had O2 sensor issues. Did the check engine light come ON from which you identified that issue.

I do have gas milage issues with my 68 camaro powered with LS6. However, the CEL has not come on to find out what is causing this poor gas milage problem

[will69camaro]

Hi William

You mentioned you had O2 sensor issues. Did the check engine light come ON from which you identified that issue.

I do have gas milage issues with my 68 camaro powered with LS6. However, the CEL has not come on to find out what is causing this poor gas milage problem

My setup isn't as clean as stock when it comes to CEL. I didn't have a light setup for it reading as lean as it suggested with o2. But may our thag in place. Le.

I realized it when the car started running HORRIBLE as in it would barely run and fouled a set of plugs. The issue has been resolved. It was a tuning issue (setting in the dominator) that I made a mistake on during initial configuration.

[waynieZ]

The car looks sweet Will, glad your out with it.

[will69camaro]

Yea this part of it is more fun so far. Drove it in to work today. Second Friday in a row! Start of a streak.

[Deserve]

Will,

It took me all day but it just dawned on me why I liked your car so much when we talked this morning at coffee and cars. I've been following your build forever on here. I wish I would have remembered it at the time. I had way more questions than side mirrors, window trim, insurance and talking about the license plate. I think the model year plate would have been cool but your new one fits nice with the style of the car. The car is awesome in person!

Thanks for taking the time to talk to me and my wife.

[will69camaro]

Will,

It took me all day but it just dawned on me why I liked your car so much when we talked this morning at coffee and cars. I've been following your build forever on here. I wish I would have remembered it at the time. I had way more questions than side mirrors, window trim, insurance and talking about the license plate. I think the model year plate would have been cool but your new one fits nice with the style of the car. The car is awesome in person!

Thanks for taking the time to talk to me and my wife.

Oh awesome! It was good meeting you and your wife too. I can dig up the mirrors to show you exactly the ones I got of it helps you out. I can give the contact to the guy that did the glass too!

Any questions feel free to hit me up. I'm always down to talk cars!

[Juicypop]

Car looks good as always brother glad your getting to drive it all over I am jealous.

[will69camaro]

Car looks good as always brother glad your getting to drive it all over I am jealous.

Thanks! Been a long time coming but finally getting to realize some of the hard work.

She's not finished but she's fun :)
http://i.imgur.com/WefprrT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4yf9Zdg.jpg

[Deserve]

Oh awesome! It was good meeting you and your wife too. I can dig up the mirrors to show you exactly the ones I got of it helps you out. I can give the contact to the guy that did the glass too!

Any questions feel free to hit me up. I'm always down to talk cars!

I'm definitely more interested in some more info on the mirrors. I didn't know there were 2 different pedestal sizes and that makes a huge difference. I'm also contemplating the Hollywood Smoothie's. From what I can research it also fits pretty well and looks clean.

[will69camaro]

Well got the flex sensor wired last weekend as well as a few other things I'll explain below. Was worried about the sensor as with key on it read "err low volt." During cranking it woke up and started displaying ethanol content.

http://i.imgur.com/hheYFZH.jpg

Right where I expected it to be with pump 93 and it's "up to 10% ethanol" content.

Along with the wiring of the flex fuel sensor, I wired in an oil temp sensor that will be installed post oil cooler on the next oil change. I also wanted to take advantage of a two step but was looking for a way to control it as I dont have a clutch switch so had to use what I have available.

I have a custom output setup as a "ground" output which is what the two step INPUT requires. I have it set to signal that output when the VSS is under 5mph and my available holley input switch on dash are both active. In theory I can do a burnout with no limiter issues, then click switch, roll to line and it will be on the 2 step (say 3-3500rpm). Launch car and when it gets over 5mph it'll disengage the two step and allow full rev. Will practice with that maybe this weekend. Only concern is the response time of the VSS being sufficient to register 5mph before the car tries to climb over that.

William

[Josh@Ridetech]

Thanks! Been a long time coming but finally getting to realize some of the hard work.

She's not finished but she's fun :)
http://i.imgur.com/WefprrT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4yf9Zdg.jpg

Looks awesome!

[waynieZ]

Looks awesome!

X2 !

[will69camaro]

Appreciate it guys. Needs some work still. It coming along. Taking it out tomorrow rain pending so maybe have some new pics with some twin peaks girls. And get to test the brake switch alteration and see what the ethanol sensor does. Still no e85 in the car yet.

[72Z/28]

Hi William

I have the same NRG short hub as well as the NRG quick release similar to yours.

I did the installation yesterday but I noticed that there is about a 1/4 inch gap between the hub and the flaming river steering column housing ( not sure if it is the right name for it).

The hub is fully seated and through the steering column shaft splines.

Not sure why the reason why there is such a gap shown in the below link

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc115/72Z28/66EFCFFA-B8E6-44E8-A5D3-0E8FFCFBF357_zpsbuxs0xqc.jpeg

[BigBronco]

Will, you owe everyone an update since LSfest and everything else with the car!!!!

[will69camaro]

Will, you owe everyone an update since LSfest and everything else with the car!!!!

How about an update now.

This past Saturday myself and a few friends rented out the race track to get out of quarantine and enjoy some burn rubber and race fuel.

I wanted to go log some boost control settings in the Holley and do so in a safe area and prepped track for traction reasons.

I ended up hurting the clutch/slave and was out for the day, but after seeing temps fall back into the low 70s-high 60s, and the prep they put on the track for some fast cars (7.1@200mph fast). I decided to give it another whirl. Trans was shifting on upshifts with no issues!

Babied it off the line to ensure I got a clean "fast pass"
IqXOqr7WtPY

Saw the time and turned right back around to try and best it. Didn't run a quicker time but i went FASTER:
TWl-KmXtYl4

Overall very happy with the trip. I found that I need more fuel and CarlC onboard here helped me with about an hour long phone call talking through options and general shooting of the ****. Happy to have guys like CarlC that I can rely on with good honest advice and experience to back it up.

Also a shoutout goes to AndrewB70 for helping me get this things street manners under control and just being an all around great resource and friend to chat car stuff with.

William

[Rodknock]

How about an update now.

This past Saturday myself and a few friends rented out the race track to get out of quarantine and enjoy some burn rubber and race fuel.

I wanted to go log some boost control settings in the Holley and do so in a safe area and prepped track for traction reasons.

I ended up hurting the clutch/slave and was out for the day, but after seeing temps fall back into the low 70s-high 60s, and the prep they put on the track for some fast cars (7.1@200mph fast). I decided to give it another whirl. Trans was shifting on upshifts with no issues!

Babied it off the line to ensure I got a clean "fast pass"
IqXOqr7WtPY

Saw the time and turned right back around to try and best it. Didn't run a quicker time but i went FASTER:
TWl-KmXtYl4

Overall very happy with the trip. I found that I need more fuel and CarlC onboard here helped me with about an hour long phone call talking through options and general shooting of the ****. Happy to have guys like CarlC that I can rely on with good honest advice and experience to back it up.

Also a shoutout goes to AndrewB70 for helping me get this things street manners under control and just being an all around great resource and friend to chat car stuff with.

William


Dude!! That gives me goose bumps there brother!!! Fricken amazing. I guess if you had an auto trans and built a bunch of boost off the line, it would just blow the tired off?

[will69camaro]

Dude!! That gives me goose bumps there brother!!! Fricken amazing. I guess if you had an auto trans and built a bunch of boost off the line, it would just blow the tired off?

The guy helping with my tune said “put an auto in it and go 8s.”

I think it’s gonna go 9s pretty easily at this point. Fuel system upgrades. And a little suspension work I’m im hoping it goes low 9s at mid-high 150s

[Dave95z28]

Great runs for babying it off the line like that. Seemed to hold the power well enough once it was moving. What tires were you running in the back?

Dave

[will69camaro]

Great runs for babying it off the line like that. Seemed to hold the power well enough once it was moving. What tires were you running in the back?

Dave

Track prep was crazy. 345/35/18 Mickey Thompson DR.

Yea I’ll be more aggressive at the next one. This was spike of 19psi but settle to 13-14psi. Once fueling is sorted boost will go up.

Felt like I was on a rollercoaster ride. Was wildly fast feeling. Only babied it immediately off the line. It was floored by the time I was in top of 1st!

[slimjim]

*sees video.

off to buy 2 turbos :RunninDog:

[BigBronco]

The guy helping with my tune said “put an auto in it and go 8s.”

I think it’s gonna go 9s pretty easily at this point. Fuel system upgrades. And a little suspension work I’m im hoping it goes low 9s at mid-high 150s

It will easily go Mid 9's at 158 or so if not more, especially after the new fuel setup.

[will69camaro]

It will easily go Mid 9's at 158 or so if not more, especially after the new fuel setup.

Man that's the hope, i'd say i got the bug a little bit based on how EASY the car went deep into the 10s.

Carry 19-20 psi THROUGH 3rd and 4th and I bet that gets it in the upper 150s...Fuel system will be required for that for sure.

Little harder launch and it's there i'm sure.

[will69camaro]

Like usual, enough wasn't enough. While the clutch is out and being diagnosed, i just ordered a fuel pump replacement for one of my V modules, that houses twin 525LPH Hellcat pumps. Ordering the lines and fittings to add this as my "secondary" pump setup. This should give me some breathing room on the power side, as i was losing fuel pressure in the pass above. This will be adding an extra 75% fuel flow and should allow me to get close to maxing out those ID1700x if the turbos are up for it. All that's left for fuel system upgrade is the controller (CarlC :hello:) to ship, and a few small fittings.

https://i.imgur.com/a5hdwwv.png

[Rodknock]

Like usual, enough wasn't enough. While the clutch is out and being diagnosed, i just ordered a fuel pump replacement for one of my V modules, that houses twin 525LPH Hellcat pumps. Ordering the lines and fittings to add this as my "secondary" pump setup. This should give me some breathing room on the power side, as i was losing fuel pressure in the pass above. This will be adding an extra 75% fuel flow and should allow me to get close to maxing out those ID1700x if the turbos are up for it. All that's left for fuel system upgrade is the controller (CarlC :hello:) to ship, and a few small fittings.

Do both pumps run all the time, or does the second one kick in under boost? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I have a huge learning curve to go through, after being out of the hobby for 20 years, and now trying to learn new school :y0!:

[will69camaro]

Do both pumps run all the time, or does the second one kick in under boost? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I have a huge learning curve to go through, after being out of the hobby for 20 years, and now trying to learn new school :y0!:

CTS-V runs full time, second pump comes on with effectively a "hobbs switch" but believe CarlC is working that into the controller itself. It will come on with 2psi boost.

[will69camaro]

Trans has been out and put back in. Issue with clutch was slave related and specifically about being a cheap china knockoff piece (From O'Reillys) that had all the markings of a GM piece so i mistakenly assumed same. My fault. Also with new trans and new slave, I should have RE-measured for clutch spacing/shimming needed and I didn't. My mistake.

Trans is back in, with a GM replacement slave, measured out and in the range of what is acceptable per Manuf Recommendations.

I will check this evening to see if the clutch releases like it should after bleeding fully. After that is confirmed I will be re-installing all the turbo piping / exhaust I had to remove, and the new Bowler shifter (previous had split the boot and was leaking).
Old T56 magnum shifter with 300 miles:
https://i.imgur.com/aSj3KNj.jpg?1

New shifter and new seal design:
https://i.imgur.com/TiU3Rfj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/z2H32YB.jpg

Based on some signs of fuel starvation and the car having so much left on the table power wise, I've started to collect parts for fuel system change:
Vaporworx controller:
https://i.imgur.com/ANIb8fQ.jpg?1

Twin Walbro 525LPH (285s) in custom Housing:
https://i.imgur.com/Kt3lds3.jpg?1

Fancy fuse panel for pump and future amp ANL fuses:
https://i.imgur.com/WcAdIWP.jpg?1

Not shown is the new Fuelab FPR, hoses/fittings, etc needed for the pump and fuel rail feed changes.

Also have some more items on order for changing the WG control to Dome control and twin solenoids. Hoping it all fits around what I already have but there is more work needed there, like drilling and tapping the compressor housing, so that will be a bit.

[python]

Almost 10 years on this thread what a build.

[214Chevy]

Almost 10 years on this thread what a build.

It's amazing how time fly's and life sometime's takes precedence and importance over our builds.

[Rodknock]

Trans has been out and put back in. Issue with clutch was slave related and specifically about being a cheap china knockoff piece (From O'Reillys) that had all the markings of a GM piece so i mistakenly assumed same. My fault. Also with new trans and new slave, I should have RE-measured for clutch spacing/shimming needed and I didn't. My mistake.

Trans is back in, with a GM replacement slave, measured out and in the range of what is acceptable per Manuf Recommendations.

I will check this evening to see if the clutch releases like it should after bleeding fully. After that is confirmed I will be re-installing all the turbo piping / exhaust I had to remove, and the new Bowler shifter (previous had split the boot and was leaking).

Based on some signs of fuel starvation and the car having so much left on the table power wise, I've started to collect parts for fuel system change:
Vaporworx controller:
https://i.imgur.com/ANIb8fQ.jpg?1

Twin Walbro 525LPH (285s) in custom Housing:
https://i.imgur.com/Kt3lds3.jpg?1


Not shown is the new Fuelab FPR, hoses/fittings, etc needed for the pump and fuel rail feed changes.

Also have some more items on order for changing the WG control to Dome control and twin solenoids. Hoping it all fits around what I already have but there is more work needed there, like drilling and tapping the compressor housing, so that will be a bit.


Will, what size fuel lines are you running to the front? All flex, or hard lines?

[will69camaro]

Will, what size fuel lines are you running to the front? All flex, or hard lines?

-10AN. All PTFE flex line

[Rodknock]

-10AN. All PTFE flex line

Cool, thanks brother!

[will69camaro]

Cool, thanks brother!

No problem. Sorry was a little short i was on phone and away from home.

System currently is:
Two CTS-V pumps
Two -6AN feed lines (one goes through a Flex Fuel Sensor)
Billet y-block, 2x -6AN to -10AN
-10AN PTFE line to a inline filter
-10AN/-10AN Filter
-10AN PTFE to the passenger fuel rail, rear
Passenger Fuel Rail
-8AN PTFE Crossover
Driver Fuel Rail
Plug with Fuel Pressure Sensor as a "dead head"

Changing it up slightly.
One V pump will remain and the flex fuel sensor will be on that -6AN line.
One V pump is being replaced with the Ricks twin 525LPM pump configuration with -10AN from the tank
The -10AN line will have a Fuel Pressure Regulator acting as a "safety" for the V pump if i see a big pressure spike. V pump cant bypass enough fuel for the two 525's. This Fuel Pressure Regulator will have a -6AN return to the tank
Billet Y block will be re-configured to have a -10AN/-6AN to -10AN
Everything from there will be same to engine bay.
In engine bay i'm splitting the -10AN line that originally went to passenger rail to another Billet Y block configured as -10AN to 2x -8AN
Each AN line will feed the rear of each rail, pressure sensor inline on the driver rear through an adapter fitting.

I'll be getting pictures of these upgrades and will share. Hoping to start them today or tomorrow. Waiting on some 8GA wire to show up monday before i can put the tank back in position but can mount the FPR, configure the lines, etc.

[214Chevy]

No problem. Sorry was a little short i was on phone and away from home.

System currently is:
Two CTS-V pumps
Two -6AN feed lines (one goes through a Flex Fuel Sensor)
Billet y-block, 2x -6AN to -10AN
-10AN PTFE line to a inline filter
-10AN/-10AN Filter
-10AN PTFE to the passenger fuel rail, rear
Passenger Fuel Rail
-8AN PTFE Crossover
Driver Fuel Rail
Plug with Fuel Pressure Sensor as a "dead head"

Changing it up slightly.
One V pump will remain and the flex fuel sensor will be on that -6AN line.
One V pump is being replaced with the Ricks twin 525LPM pump configuration with -10AN from the tank
The -10AN line will have a Fuel Pressure Regulator acting as a "safety" for the V pump if i see a big pressure spike. V pump cant bypass enough fuel for the two 525's. This Fuel Pressure Regulator will have a -6AN return to the tank
Billet Y block will be re-configured to have a -10AN/-6AN to -10AN
Everything from there will be same to engine bay.
In engine bay i'm splitting the -10AN line that originally went to passenger rail to another Billet Y block configured as -10AN to 2x -8AN
Each AN line will feed the rear of each rail, pressure sensor inline on the driver rear through an adapter fitting.

I'll be getting pictures of these upgrades and will share. Hoping to start them today or tomorrow. Waiting on some 8GA wire to show up monday before i can put the tank back in position but can mount the FPR, configure the lines, etc.

What billet Y-block are you using? I'm running twin Walbro pumps with my Vaporworx and need a Y-block myself.

[will69camaro]

What billet Y-block are you using? I'm running twin Walbro pumps with my Vaporworx and need a Y-block myself.

I have two Fore Innovations. I’ve heard excellent things about Petersen manifolds though.

[214Chevy]

I have two Fore Innovations. I’ve heard excellent things about Petersen manifolds though.

Thank you...

[Rodknock]

No problem. Sorry was a little short i was on phone and away from home.

Dude, you're cool, no worries, but thanks a whole bunch for spelling it all out. Sounds like fuel delivery will not be an issue, moving forward!!!

[cjfirstgen]

Thank you...

Mark at Bent Customs makes his own very nice full flow Y-block as well. I have used it on two fuel system builds.

http://bentcustomandperformance.com/

[214Chevy]

Mark at Bent Customs makes his own very nice full flow Y-block as well. I have used it on two fuel system builds.

http://bentcustomandperformance.com/

Cool...thanks!! I'll check them out.

[will69camaro]

Update time:

We got some decent weather in Houston last week, temperature had fallen but more importantly as humidity was low. I took the opportunity to burn some vacation at work i have to kill by end of the month and move towards upgrading the car's fuel system a touch.

Pump as mentioned previously had arrived.
Details:
Ricks Custom Fuel hat
Twin Walbro 525 (Hellcats)
Spun aluminum fuel retention bucket.
https://i.imgur.com/Kt3lds3.jpg?1

Inside that is this: WIth the alternative that both my pumps feed through the "Primary" port on the top, as i wont have this module staged.
https://i.imgur.com/a5hdwwv.png

I proceeded to drain the 5ish, gal of fuel that was in the tank but putting my "drain hose" on the inline fuel filter, and pumped it into a spare gas can. Using holley efi and increasing pump prime time, this was pretty easy to do.

Next up was drop the tank!
https://i.imgur.com/Dg30JSZ.jpg?2

I marked each location for what was primary and what was secondary pump location. This was driven off the fact i wanted to keep the "primary" as the one that feeds the flex fuel sensor, that's the only driving case, either could have been retained. Primary, as marked is the one on the right in the pic below (Driver's side of the car).
https://i.imgur.com/fbINYRJ.jpg?2

Next up was to pull both modules, one for replacement and one to replace the factory bypass valve (63-65psi) with the DeatschWerks 90psi relief valve.
Pump removed and separated from housing to access the relief valve.
https://i.imgur.com/SmEi4Xg.jpg?1

Relief valve cage removed, and valve replaced.
https://i.imgur.com/4EqpB9K.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/CCgJlxL.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/v7ohSWB.jpg?1

From here that module went back in, and re-connected to the "corner pickups" that are part of the Ricks/Vaporworx system. These are EXCELLENT for corner fuel supply, sad i lose this on the secondary pump but shouldn't pose any problems.
https://i.imgur.com/ci9vBVj.jpg?2

At this point it's time to setup the second module. I loosened the screws for the spun housing and the fuel pumps and proceed to lower into the tank to ensure pump is "on bottom."
https://i.imgur.com/GR9i60r.jpg?2

Lines installed to see what fittings i like best for the Feed (-10AN) and Return (-6AN).
https://i.imgur.com/eIRpsqY.jpg?2

Pumps wired with the pumps wired together. 8GA wire used for the pump feed as these two together as max capacity, draw significant amperage. And I always go overkill on this stuff...
https://i.imgur.com/LgK5ok9.jpg?2

Moving on from there is to mount he Fuel Pressure Regulator (FPR) that is setup as a safety bypass for the CTS-V pump. If i see a pressure spike, the hellcat pumps dont have an internal bypass, and the V bypass cant flow enough. This is a safety to ensure in that event, the V pump survives.
This looks like a good spot. By the Flex fuel sensor that the main pump feeds.
https://i.imgur.com/Y1juwiu.jpg?1

**** me, closer than i had anticipated. It would have been nicer to have a bit more room, but this is a set it and forget it type deal (i hope) so i'll suffer with the initial setup to have a clean configuration.
https://i.imgur.com/Lm6MSVl.jpg?2

The lines are PTFE, so they're very still and a bit of a bear to work with.
https://i.imgur.com/MoAT5f4.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/5mwSmTy.jpg?1

Moving on to the feed and return lines to the tank.
As the saying goes, measure twice and cut once...Well i measured, 5 times, got "long" and "short" lengths that i felt would work for the feed and went for a mid point erring on the long side...Ended up Short....How TF.

PTFE is a mother ****er to work with as the bend radius is LARGE. I used the fittings that seemed appropriate (90deg for both -10AN and -6AN lines) and i'm not happy with either.
https://i.imgur.com/UPrpVf8.jpg?1

Shown above you can see the "ripple" in the coating as the line is short into the top of the FPR. This is unacceptable, so will be replaced. I have a 120deg fitting that I will try on the same line, prior to removing the line and checking the PTFE lining to see if it's distorted/torn/etc. I purchased additional line as well to ensure i can replace it if needed.

The return line isn't as bad, but a 120deg fitting will give a better departure for the return given it's above the rear housing to ensure no clashing will happen. i have measured and have assured myself that the shock will bottom out (bump stop) prior to contacting the line enough to cause damage to the line or the fitting. That said, that part is still pending completion, hopefully today when they all arrive.

Said **** it and went to finishing up the wiring. I'm adding a big fuse for the control of the system and the pumps, i have never been happy with the wiring to the module prior but it was "good enough." That's since changed in my philosophy and i'm trying to make it RIGHT, so at least this wont need changing when i do the car re-wire down the road.

I dont have a good photo on my PC of my old PWM fuel pump controller, but it looks like this:
https://i.imgur.com/WC6d9bl.png

Small and works to control dual CTS-V pumps, but doesn't have the thermal or amperage capacity to support the larger hellcat pumps.

Enter the new unit: This piece is significantly larger than the other, by about 3x the footprint but also about 2-3x as tall as well.
https://i.imgur.com/ANIb8fQ.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/Qh20nW0.jpg?1

Tight squeese to get all the wiring in that box and still have room for the lid to close.
https://i.imgur.com/7b8pFC3.jpg?2

As shared previously Steve Meade Designs came through the nice ANL fuse holder. This will allow expansion in the future for not only 2 amps but potentially an onboard air system as well (if i see that as necessary).
https://i.imgur.com/WcAdIWP.jpg?1

Here it is in the trunk, where the old controller module was that has since been relocated. This position works for the sub box i have for the stereo later on down the road. Mind the dirty trunk, i wasn't in the detailing mood so it's a bit filthy.
What can be seen here is a 4Ga wire that goes to the distribution side of the fuse block, a 60 amp fuse between that and the power feed 8ga wire that goes to the controller.
https://i.imgur.com/1X5Y9xr.jpg?1

Dont mind the bundle of red / white wires, that's the AC power and signal wires that will be hooked up and tidied up once the AC system is finished. They're out of the way for now.

What you can see on the right side of that screen are two wiring bulkheads. Each of these will be used as the feed for the big pumps. The red "positive" bulkhead is the PWM main power feed from the controller, and on the bottom connected to the 8GA wire to the pump itself. The black "ground" wire has multiple grounds for various sensors in the back, as well as the ground directly to the controller. There is a ground cable (2/0) that is from this directly to battery, and a 2/0 ground strap that goes to the frame now as well. Grounding has improved dramatically as part of this upgrade as well.
https://i.imgur.com/Vczf5cA.jpg?1

What is difficult to see in the photo, is directly between the battery tray and the ground bulkhead, there is a small pass through / grommet where my battery tender wire passes. Previously i had to pop the trunk to access this and it was annoying, now i can reach under car and grab the lead and connect it. I'm utilizing the former rear leave spring bushing spot to pass wires through and keep them orderly under the car.

I'll try to get some more pictures of the finished wiring under the car when i'm out there later finishing up this fuel system (lines) and setting the FPR.

To be continued!

[Rodknock]

Thanks for all the detailed explanations and pics. Really helps me visualize what I will need to do in the future for mine, although, I will not be as extreme..lol

[Goosesdad]

Yes! Ditto the thanks for the details! Huge help.

[will69camaro]

Well went to a private rental last Saturday. In hopes for a 9@150+ I decided to make some changes.

1)adjusted rear shocks for some more weight transfer.
2) replaced the wg spring with a little stiffer one. Boost solenoid having a hard time keeping up with duty cycle above 50%. Pulled the spring that made 7psi on gate out and saw it was a “5.6psi” spring. Put a 10psi spring in it and went about my way.

First pass:
Test the wg spring on gate and ensure the fuel system working. Roll it out slow. Get it in 3rd and lay into it. AFR looking good down the track, so I grabbed second. Ran 13.6@133.

https://i.imgur.com/LdAxg8m.jpg

Back to the pits and pull logs. Fuel working perfect. Made the expected 13psi on waste gate. All looks good.

Add duty cycle to it (30%) and go for another pass to see what that makes.

Second pass:
Take off easy again. Looking at logs shift out of first at 4500. Out of second at 5500. Then rev 3rd to 6800.

Car feels good and feels fast. Run a 10.5@147. Promising given the soft 1st and 2nd gear.

W0ThA0fEZOs

https://i.imgur.com/wHx2BUp.jpg

Go look at the log and see the car made 18psi in 2nd gear and peaked 21psi in 3rd and 4th after the shifts. But boost still falling back to 15-16 range.

I decide 150mph is very attainable. And it’s happening next pass.

Third pass:
I get greedy. Rev a little more but still soft 60ft. I’m running first out this time.

Grab second gear hard at 6800rpm and 20psi boost. Hard shift and a loud bang out back.

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Doesn’t look good. Drove to end of track easy. Rear makes aloud pop when I turn off track. Go to pits and make some figure 8s in and out of load to try and test diff. Acting normally.

Fourth “Pass”:
I pull up again. Same tune. Ready to try again and stay in it. Proceed to burnout and hear a loud pop at the start. Can see me look to my friend on the side to see if he waves me off. He doesn’t.

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As I’m at the line, some other friends ran up and got the track to stop me. Apparently more noise than just that pop that isn’t noticeable on camera. Day is done. Diff is done.

Car is up on blocks now and will have diff pulled this week. If it warrants it, I’ll take some pics along the way to show the damage.

[Spiffav8]

Sucks that the Diff is done, but this is how they tend to get faster. lol Glad to see you're out having fun with the car! That's what it's all about.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[will69camaro]

Sucks that the Diff is done, but this is how they tend to get faster. lol Glad to see you're out having fun with the car! That's what it's all about.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Yea absolutely, and it's fine. I got this diff second hand (new/unused but still not direct from DSE). I knew when i got it that the 31 spline setup i thought would be a limitation so have always taken it a bit easy on it. I got greedy as said and slammed 2nd gear.

Going back, depending on what broke, will change what i fix/repair.

If it's just the diff, I'll likely replace the eaton tru-trac with the wave trac. GearFX said that was a nicer piece and machined housing. Stronger AND a lifetime warranty according to Moser/Eaton.

That of course will retain the 31 spline axles, so it's days would still be limited.

Sadly the housing that I got, and maybe is standard still, is a 3.062" carrier bearing housing. Cant fit 35spline with that. So if i wanted to upgrade axles, it would be a new center section/third member.

Down the road this definitely will be the path forward, and I'll run a Strange S-trac which has a warranty and is no doubt the toughest torsion style diff. Only availble in 35 spline however for the 9".

[sleepertime]

Nothing like beating it until it breaks...
It sounds great...


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[Pro Stock John II]

Gonna push her at the next track outing?

[BigBronco]

Gonna push her at the next track outing?

LOL!

Just got the thing back up and running. Sounding great on all 8 cylinders again!

[will69camaro]

Gonna push her at the next track outing?

I’m just trying not to push it TO the next track outing.

I’ll be going to local quarter in a little over a week. As BigBronco said, maiden drive after new springs and rockers was last night and it seems to be back to 100%. I’ll drive it a little more this weekend to see.

[will69camaro]

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[camcojb]

That's fast!!!!!!!!! Congrats! :drive::cheering::dance::cheers:

[WSSix]

Congrats, Will!

Coolest part to me is watching the tire stretch out as the speed increased. You can see it starting to pull away from the bead just a bit as he climbs in speed.

[will69camaro]

That's fast!!!!!!!!! Congrats! :drive::cheering::dance::cheers:

THANKS! Still more in it and we haven’t starting climbing boost much yet.

Congrats, Will!

Coolest part to me is watching the tire stretch out as the speed increased. You can see it starting to pull away from the bead just a bit as he climbs in speed.

Absolutely. The full video of the side is very cool. You can see the front edge of the tire disappear and see the tire growth.

[Rodknock]

Badassery right there!!!!

Making me want a manual trans!!!

[will69camaro]

Badassery right there!!!!

Making me want a manual trans!!!

To an extent. Auto in this car would run 8s.

[Rodknock]

To an extent. Auto in this car would run 8s.

Yeah, but not as much fun :lol:
Although, how could that much power, not be fun :D

[will69camaro]

Sorry for delay on some details about the track trip, was having issues with my personal PC and work PC has Imgur blocked. Didn't want to put all these pics together on the Iphone so just waited it out.

Track trip as mentioned before went well. Car ran back to back 9.8s at 150.

Ended up hurting the diff on the first "hard" launch. Didn't have any wheel hop but it was making plenty of noise after the pass. If you recall i had issue with diff before, took it all apart and it was in top condition. This time that wasn't the case.

Noise wasn't intermittent like before, it was ANY time the car was turning and diff was required to function. Ran the second 9.8 with it making a bunch of noise and then a final pass where it did get a little wheel hop and that surely finished it off.

Jack the car up in the garage and drain the fluid:
As soon as the plug was out i hear metal hit the pan! This to me was good news as last time there was no evidence and frustrating with no obvious cause. Magnet pulled this out, there wasn't many pieces but there were more than none...
https://i.imgur.com/geVhYG8.jpg

Well time to pull the center out and take a look.
Passenger side wheel comes off no drama. Driver's side however...

WTF...You can see the look on my face in the lug nut as well...This isn't good...
https://i.imgur.com/ml5Ny7W.jpg

Couldn't get a socket on 3 of the 5 nuts, all bent but 3 so much that socket wasn't going on...What to do?

I can access the axle retainer, so lets pull the axle and wheel together, mission Save the Forgeline starts now.
https://i.imgur.com/w8hfA4H.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0RvjL7r.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rMPsLDY.jpg

SUCCESS!
https://i.imgur.com/jl1uaGf.jpg

Those axle splines look healthy....Again only happened to the driver's side, passenger axle looked fine.
https://i.imgur.com/Jy6OSo4.jpg

Now the unpleasant activity of drilling out wheel studs...
https://i.imgur.com/7E6OZHZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qrwrjae.jpg

First one down.
https://i.imgur.com/rhNNHA6.jpg

All done, wheels is in top condition. Luckily.
https://i.imgur.com/lHyLfGU.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/NC4QN1T.jpg

Diff gets pulled and inspected:
https://i.imgur.com/yqWv5Fo.jpg

First check, I cant see anything wrong with it. Concern builds remembering the last time. Till i spot this. you can see in the small hole the end of the pinion gears in the diff, and i see some metal in there.
https://i.imgur.com/4eudois.jpg

Time to pull it down further and inspect. At this point with a damaged axle, I'm already convinced to upgrade. Now I want to see it for curiosity/research purposes.

https://i.imgur.com/5kCjh5z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ABAouMG.jpg

[will69camaro]

Pulling the diff itself apart was problematic as well, but knowing it was thrashed, i got it done. The small hardware we thought we wouldn't be loosening again so used red-locktite ended up snapping or stripping...Back to the drill bits!
https://i.imgur.com/8P9Qa1g.jpg

Well **** we found the bombsite.
https://i.imgur.com/UPX68As.jpg

Couldn't get any of the gears out (yet) so pulled some of the piece i could get out for a closer look.
https://i.imgur.com/ZJDgzLp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HACldne.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EnxHxbv.jpg

With this knowledge it was time to look into the upgrades. By the skin of my teeth I got the order in Monday for Cyber Monday discounts at Strange Engineering. Unfortunately my 3rd member has smaller bearing (OEM size) case and cant house 35 spline axles. I was set on trying the Strange S-trac differential, so new center section it is.
Strange Thru-bolt Pro Aluminum Housing w/ 3.50 gears and S-trac diff.
https://i.imgur.com/RXBZ67y.png

Also picked up the corresponding 35 spline Alloy axles. Went back with 1/2" studs, as it became problematic to make 5/8" fit. If i end up regretting this, i'll eat some crow and upgrade to 5/8" later on.

I really wanted to try the S-trac as in principle it's the same as the Trutrac that I have, but instead of 4 sets of pinion gears it has 5, and they're all 9310 material so significantly stronger. Online research shows strong evidence of surviving in heavy stick cars. If not, it carries a lifetime warranty...

Sorry for the long winded response, I'll post more updates when it starts going back together!

[WSSix]

Your axle pick looks like the splines are twisted to me, Will.

Glad the Forgelines were saved.

[will69camaro]

Your axle pick looks like the splines are twisted to me, Will.

Glad the Forgelines were saved.

Yes little sarcasm. Driver side axle was twisted. Passenger side survived unscathed.

[F'in mine]

Man I feel for ya, I thought you were gonna be okay and unscathed after the last video. Surprised to see pressed in studs and that Trutrac got mangled:bigun2:.
Funny thing is I just ordered a Trutrac and some Strange axles but I don't have the ponies that you're putting down.
Wondering how those axle bearings are for leaking, I was a little weary about using them.
Good luck with the new setup and post up a vid after the break in period, you know what I mean :).

[will69camaro]

Man I feel for ya, I thought you were gonna be okay and unscathed after the last video. Surprised to see pressed in studs and that Trutrac got mangled:bigun2:.
Funny thing is I just ordered a Trutrac and some Strange axles but I don't have the ponies that you're putting down.
Wondering how those axle bearings are for leaking, I was a little weary about using them.
Good luck with the new setup and post up a vid after the break in period, you know what I mean :).

Mine were good for not leaking prior.

And as for break in period. I bet it doesn’t get much of one before I’m back to making hits in the car.

[Rodknock]

Yeah, I think I'll stick to the lower horsepower range with mine. I can't afford to do all that. Lucky the Forgeline was saved!!!!

[cjfirstgen]

That is the center section I am running but using their pro touring floater as well with the 35 spline axles. As I'm sure you are aware floater axles are common in drag cars as well. More expensive but several additional benefits. More insurance against future issues.

https://www.strangeengineering.net/product-category/drag-racing-rear-ends/pro-touring-floater-kit/


https://i.postimg.cc/FH32TvMk/DD2-C67-CE-C162-4-BBE-AA3-F-5015-E679-DB95.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gxcS0CkG)

[cjfirstgen]

An option maybe...

https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/135603-New-Currie-Pro-touring-Crate-Rearend-w-Ridetech-brackets-and-Floating-axles

[will69camaro]

That is the center section I am running but using their pro touring floater as well with the 35 spline axles. As I'm sure you are aware floater axles are common in drag cars as well. More expensive but several additional benefits. More insurance against future issues.

https://www.strangeengineering.net/product-category/drag-racing-rear-ends/pro-touring-floater-kit/


https://i.postimg.cc/FH32TvMk/DD2-C67-CE-C162-4-BBE-AA3-F-5015-E679-DB95.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gxcS0CkG)

I considered a floater but didn’t want to fully redo rear and brakes. And potentially affect offset for rear wheels. Too much potential impact. Really wanted to use the floater style with c6/7 rear hubs and make use of rear wheel speed sensors as well, but lose the benefit of being able to pull the axle if keeping 35 splines (vette hubs are 33).

Maybe in the future.

[cjfirstgen]

I considered a floater but didn’t want to fully redo rear and brakes. And potentially affect offset for rear wheels. Too much potential impact. Really wanted to use the floater style with c6/7 rear hubs and make use of rear wheel speed sensors as well, but lose the benefit of being able to pull the axle if keeping 35 splines (vette hubs are 33).

Maybe in the future.

Understood. Just to clarify. Wheels don't have to change at all. Axle tube is cut to length for overall same width.

[will69camaro]

Understood. Just to clarify. Wheels don't have to change at all. Axle tube is cut to length for overall same width.

Understood and still not happening this go round :)

Being that i didn't break a 31 spline axle, just gave it some twist, i think 35's will have no issue staying in one piece.

[WSSix]

I'm glad you confirmed it was twisted. I sat there looking at the screen for a minute wondering if my eyes were playing tricks on me, lol. :sieg:

[rickpaw]

It was good seeing you at the track Will. Too bad we couldn't hang around longer.

Sorry about the carnage. Glad you were able to save the Forgeline.

[will69camaro]

It was good seeing you at the track Will. Too bad we couldn't hang around longer.

Sorry about the carnage. Glad you were able to save the Forgeline.

Yea man was good to see you too! I didn't get to hang out too much with anyone, was a busy day for sure.

[Number1]

Any updates on the car? How’s the fuel system been working since you added the Rick’s setup? Thought for sure I would see it or the truck at LS Fest.

[BigBronco]

Any updates on the car? How’s the fuel system been working since you added the Rick’s setup? Thought for sure I would see it or the truck at LS Fest.

He was unfortunately offshore for work so he could not make it.

I won't completely speak for him but I can tell you fueling wise, the camaro has been great. The rick's/vaporworx combination in the car is rock solid.

Truck swap has been great too outside of those fun little fixes that need to be addressed. Leak here, noise there, etc.

[Jimbo1367]

Does will have his C10 on here too? I haven’t seen any updates on LS1tech lately.

[Number1]

He was unfortunately offshore for work so he could not make it.

I won't completely speak for him but I can tell you fueling wise, the camaro has been great. The rick's/vaporworx combination in the car is rock solid.

Truck swap has been great too outside of those fun little fixes that need to be addressed. Leak here, noise there, etc.
Okay cool, thanks. Ready to see new videos of both.

[will69camaro]

Man, I fell off the map. Still on here but mostly been lurking and didn't even realize my post had some comments I never addressed.

Any updates on the car? How’s the fuel system been working since you added the Rick’s setup? Thought for sure I would see it or the truck at LS Fest.

I'll give some updates on the car in this post and future posts as I start working on it a bit again. To answer your question, the fuel system has been flawless. I think i did make a few things complicated that could be done much easier now that there are alternatives on the market. Nothing related to the Vaporworx. Carl and his product and support have been flawless. I would and have done his system again since putting it on the Camaro, I've got the original PWM and a ZL1 pump in my LS2 swapped C10. Working great on there as well!

My car had dual pump setup with two CTSV pumps originally and kept one, and replaced the other with the Ricks fuel hat and twin 525 Hellcat pumps. If i were to do the entire system again, I'd have run that from the start with 3 hellcats and stage 2 for when boost comes in (right now they come in with boost and the v pump is primary). That said, I'd want to figure out the corner pickups for that fuel hat to maintain the low fuel reliability of the Ricks tank.

How has it been working though? No fueling issues at all and that's running E85 up to ~1000-1100 RWHP regularly. I will be turning it up a little bit when it's back together, so we will see how it performs with another 20-25% more power.

I've been to LS Fest but as support the last time I went and honestly it was still a blast. Wont make this year as it sold out before I could sign up but I didn't have anything to take to run anyway. C10 has been to a lot of local stuff and it's maiden voyage was to Goodguys Dallas (from Houston) with literally no time in the car before this. Made it with minimal issue (one burned plug wire). C10 has just been reliable enjoyment but ready for a few changes there so we will see what happens with that in the future.

He was unfortunately offshore for work so he could not make it.

I won't completely speak for him but I can tell you fueling wise, the camaro has been great. The rick's/vaporworx combination in the car is rock solid.

Truck swap has been great too outside of those fun little fixes that need to be addressed. Leak here, noise there, etc.

Pretty much nailed it.

Does will have his C10 on here too? I haven’t seen any updates on LS1tech lately.

C10 isn't on here, doesn't really fit as it's not "pro-touring" yet. I'm considering doing a chassis in it when the time is right, maybe a manual swap as well or maybe Andrew can convince me to run a 8HP70 in it...

Okay cool, thanks. Ready to see new videos of both.

I need to get back on this as well. Hoping to get some more videos of each in the near future and more posting a bit. Took a break from most social medias from a post perspective and backed up to just lurking/reading. I'll try to get it going and out more for some "content" and just in general enjoying it again.

Stay tuned for updates!

[will69camaro]

Few pics of the distractions I've had.

Also, made the decision to make this garage more comfortable as interest rates have stopped my looking for a replacement house with larger space for cars. I'll survive with my large storage unit (15x50) and small garage.

I renovated it last year, with new paint, more lights and cabinets/storage.

I recently added a mini split to keep the Houston Temps and humidity outside the garage, and picked up a "small" two post that works for low rooflines. I cant raise the roof as we have a space above that is utilized. This will work for now, and they advertise a 48in lift, so it will be more comfortable than working on the cribbage stands that I've done everyone on previously. Friend swears by his MaxJax lift, so i went with it. I like that it can be removed and stored. I had planned ahead previously when i hung the cabinets, so happy to see my measurements were correct and they fit under!

Now onto what will be performed on the repair and re-fresh of the car.

1) Engine: Engine removed and repaired. Broke a valve tip, luckily not dropping the valve, just lost cylinder performance (and obvious valvetrain noise). Will do all new valvetrain (maybe including cam); all new valves, lifters, springs, rockers, and pushrods. Will also be inspecting the main/rod bearings and cylinders while the heads are off and assess from there. Not suspecting any issues there as the motor only has ~8k miles.

2) Electrical: Re-wire of the entire car. This car was my first attempt at wiring and used a AAW classic update. VERY nice kit, but not suited for custom setup (smooth firewall) and relocated to glove box. I have a highway 22 kit that will be used, and mounted in the trunk.

3) Comfort: Complete the A/C installation. In my haste to get it running early on i decided I'd complete it later, and that turned to years. It was 99% setup, just needing engine bay hoses/dryer/etc. It required pulling the front off (IC in the way) so that has become a priority.

4) Interior: I will complete the rear seat recovery to match the Recaros and fit the bottom cushion over the DSE suspension. Considering a rear seat delete also, but would want it to be a clean application like some have done (Dusold / Stielow / etc). Interior updates will also include new gauges. Racepack IQ3s was cool but feels a bit "dated" now. I will be removing and doing something similar as Stielow builds with a custom machined surround and Dakota Digital custom gauges. Also going to add in a console/stereo like Tony Whatley's "Overt" 69 camaro. Want a more complete interior, more street, less race inspired.

5) Suspension: Will send the JRI ride height shocks out to be re-valved and one repaired (adjuster damaged on passenger rear). Plan would be to use JJ for this. Unsure if i will connect the hydraulics to the ride height shocks, i dont run the car very low. There is a chance in all this, i sell the setup and buy another set of JRI without the ride height. May let me get a little more spring on the car / travel (unsure if i need it).

6) Performance: I will be changing the WG management. The car had unpredictable boost beyond 50% DC of the WG on a single solenoid and manifold pressure setup. I have an air compressor / small tank, that will be mounted in the trunk and have dual solenoid setup so i can take advantage of the PID controller the Holley EFI has. Goal will be to consistently make power and have more range. I can keep a 8-10psi spring in the WG and make over 25psi when commanded. Right now the car has been living on a 15psi spring, with no WG management other than dumping excess. Fun but traction at 1000+rwhp is a struggle, even on a drag radial. Beyond that, I will complete the wiring to the front hubs to have wheel speed of the fronts so i can attempt to utilize a form of traction control (straight line).

That's the rough overview of what will be the goal. I'm sure things will be omitted as others are added as well. Looking forward to getting back into the car and enjoying it!

[will69camaro]

Got the lift installed and positioned it with the ZR-1 and the Camaro. Tested it and so far so good! I think it'll be VERY helpful for work under the car.

Dont mind that the car is dirty. I had to have it outside when measuring and it was slightly raining. I'll get it cleaned up along with the garage.

[camcojb]

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[BigBronco]

Hell yeah dude!

Looking forward to getting this thing back in action. I have thought about re-updating my nova thread but it might make me puke watching how long the car has been on the back burner LOL

[will69camaro]

Hell yeah dude!

Looking forward to getting this thing back in action. I have thought about re-updating my nova thread but it might make me puke watching how long the car has been on the back burner LOL

Nah man just do it. Look at how far back this build goes!

[WSSix]

That lift looks perfect for working on wheels, brakes, and suspensions, or just detailing the lower portion of the car.

[will69camaro]

That lift looks perfect for working on wheels, brakes, and suspensions, or just detailing the lower portion of the car.

Absolutely. I’ve been considering getting and aerocreeper that people use on planes in hangers. Adjustable angle seat basically. Prob a good option as I can’t get it high enough to stand under it. So far been enjoying the use of it.

I’ll get some pics but stripped it down to long block in the car and transmission is out. Engine should hopefully be soon.

[WSSix]

That aerocreeper is a good idea. Good luck with the work!

[Rodknock]

Glad to see updates!! I need to update mine now that it's painted. I don't think I've updated my thread in at least 6 months.

[will69camaro]

Glad to see updates!! I need to update mine now that it's painted. I don't think I've updated my thread in at least 6 months.

Thanks man. Mines been apart way too long. Sema show has me motivated as well.

[syborg tt]

Absolutely. I’ve been considering getting and aerocreeper that people use on planes in hangers. Adjustable angle seat basically. Prob a good option as I can’t get it high enough to stand under it. So far been enjoying the use of it.

If I had one of these I don't think I would get anything done in the garage except for taking a nap.