Mark Stielow's 69 Camaro, Red Devil

[Bow Tie 67]

Lol ... last Monday was $200 for 2 1/2 hours on 3.56 mile 19 turns, auto x is for imports!

[Stuart Adams]

I think autox is for events like goodguys, i.e. limited space, allows spectators a chance to see the cars as part of their entry into the show, allows rides for spectators, and more importantly it allows vendors to show their stuff to the public for hopefully future business.

It's fun, but it's very limiting for cars and drivers like you Mark. From what I've seen most cars that are fast on open track events do pretty well on the autocross also, but cars that are fast on the autocross are not always fast on the big course.

Cool car.

[Flash68]

I always say to people -- there are two kinds of car guys... Greasers and waxers...

Now this quote I like!

[W5 406ci]

Well I did my first SCCA AutoX today in 15 years. It was just liked I remembered. Due to the fact I haven’t been to a Detroit Region SCCA AutoX in a long time I sent the “Director” of AutoXs an email as to what I should do. He said you HAVE to be there before 8:00 to get teched and the first car would be on track at 9:00. OK! I got up at 6:30 this morning got ready and hit the road in my car with visions of cones in my head. I got to the parking lot at 7:45 sharp to see 6 other cars in the parking lot? OK so now I’m here let’s get teched. Some old guy looked at my car for 30 seconds and put a green dot on the windshield and a sticker on my helmet. OK now it is 8:00 LET’s GO because I’m excited. Not so fast you need to go register. OK LET’s GO. I went over and stood in line. When I got to the front of the line the grumpy SCCA lady said I need to see your SCCA card. I said well I registered on line and I didn’t bring it with me. Well after some phone calls I got my number and I was READY to go. At 9:30 we got to walk the parking lot. We walked the lot until 11:00. Alright NOW I’M ready to go. “Not so fast you are in the second run group so you need to work the “Course” as a cone chaser”. OK LET’S GO. I stood in the middle of a parking lot in full sun for 2 ½ hours in 95 degree heat. So when I finished my worker session I got to RACE……I belted in my car sunscreen in my eyes and sweat beading up on my sunburned face. I lined up and launched my car I ran up through first gear….wait….I stayed in first gear for the whole lap. OK I still have visions of cones in my head and I think I can go a little faster. 38.6 seconds later I did go faster……Yeeeehaaaa.
So, for sweating my butt off I got 5 – 38 second laps in a parking lot in Detroit. So for my $25 entry fee I got 3.2 minutes of track time. Or it cost me $7.81 a minute for “track” time. I can go to my local track and run a track event for $200 for 4 – 20 minute sessions. So that is $2.50 dollars a minute for track time and I DON’T HAVE TO STAND IN THE SUN. Humm.. so Auto crossing is cheaper?

As I drove home past all the blight in Detroit with my A/C blowing ice cold on my sun burned face I had a chance to reflect on the day……I still think this sport of ours has a place in it for everyone. If you do something and you like it keep doing it. If you don’t then stop. We all got into this to have fun. I’m going to stick to open track events and the muscle car shoot outs and suck it up during the AutoXs.

I get it. I understand AutoXing. It is just not my cup of tea…..


Check out my fancy numbers.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3148.jpg

This is a 100.000 plus dollars car with 8 dollar painters tape decals priceless

[tones2SS]

Very true Mark. Great write up!:cheers:

[coolwelder62]

I think autoxing is like practicing kissing your cusin so when you get that date w/ cheerleader you are all ready to go.

[qship510]

I've never seen the numbers broken down like that Mark, well put. I haven't autocrossed for years, now (as soon as the car is ready) I am an instructor for a local open track group. Almost as much track time, but for free with a lunch thrown in! Yes, most of the track time is driven with one eye on the rear view mirror, but we usually get 2 12-15 minute "instructor sessions" that are wide open.

Autocrossing has it's place, that's where I started. But, once you get a taste of open track, it's hard to justify going back. For the competitive juices, I wonder how time trials compare?

[Racecraft]

First... lovely car, as are all the cars you have done.

So for my $25 entry fee I got 3.2 minutes of track time. Or it cost me $7.81 a minute for “track” time. I can go to my local track and run a track event for $200 for 4 – 20 minute sessions. So that is $2.50 dollars a minute for track time and I DON’T HAVE TO STAND IN THE SUN. Humm.. so Auto crossing is cheaper?

As I drove home past all the blight in Detroit with my A/C blowing ice cold on my sun burned face I had a chance to reflect on the day……I still think this sport of ours has a place in it for everyone. If you do something and you like it keep doing it. If you don’t then stop. We all got into this to have fun. I’m going to stick to open track events and the muscle car shoot outs and suck it up during the AutoXs.



This is the same reason I dropped drag racing, $100k+ car and a handfull of passes.
I decided seat time is what I want and goin' round corners is even more fun.

[GrabberGT]

Nice story.. How long was it before you started having visions of Wine and Cheese tasings with the Ferrari group? LOL

Just curious... what class did they put you in and what was the competition like? Im going to be AutoXing my car in the coming years and sometimes wonder exactly where they think our heavily modified street cars belong. Not that I plan to actually compete but...

[Finch]

My local SCCA runs every other weekend just 10 miles from my house. The lack of track time and all the BS you mentioned is why I have only gone twice all year long.

I like to autocross when there is nothing else but the open track has won me over for the rest of my days.

[Tom Fuehrer]

My experience is that AutoX is "it" as long as you haven't done anything on a real track.

There are a few guys who will beleive AX is the end-all. They like the short intense competition. That is totally cool with me.

Once a person does an open track event, AX will typically seem tame. The duty cycle of work (picking cones) to play also is a negative for AX (but needed for the whole event to work).

Open track is the coolest thing - until you race wheel-to-wheel. At that point lapping seems pointless :-)

[Van B]

My experience is that AutoX is "it" as long as you haven't done anything on a real track.

There are a few guys who will beleive AX is the end-all. They like the short intense competition. That is totally cool with me.

Once a person does an open track event, AX will typically seem tame. The duty cycle of work (picking cones) to play also is a negative for AX (but needed for the whole event to work).

Open track is the coolest thing - until you race wheel-to-wheel. At that point lapping seems pointless :-)

I was addicted to track days until I started Spec Miata racing. Not that I won't track the Camaro, but I don't do it much. With the exception of Motorstate and Optima Faceoff, I have not autocrossed in almost 7 years.

[byndbad914]

You pretty much hit the painful AX thing on the head Mark. It is good for newbies to learn car control. Once you have some basic car control, AX is a complete waste of a weekend day IMHO. Soooooo boooooooring. It is cheaper to buy a ticket to an amusement park as you still get the joy of waiting in line for an hour to get a 38 second really fast ride on roller coasters (that are likely faster overall frankly) and you don't have all the pain of maintaining and burning $$ on fixing a car, tires, gas, etc.

Many of the AX guys, when I really press 'em, come back to an idea that at 60 mph if they loose it they feel they have more chance of catching it and coming out better than at 120 mph on a long sweeper... so I think it is that fear and lack of ability that keeps AX going. Fine by me, and I would prefer fearful and slower people not be on the track when I am on it, so AX certainly has its place, but I agree, not my cup-o-tea.

'Course, if I had it my way everyone would have to run a lap like Top Gear does with celebs, in a simple, provided car, but have to beat a specific and reasonably fast time just to get their driver's license. Half of the Top Gear celeb board should have their licenses revoked until they learn car control and how to actually drive = different topic :lol: That is what AX would be good for :thumbsup:

[conekiller13]

Wow......you guys must run with clubs full of asses......


I've been auto-crossing with Oregon region of the SCCA for about 10 years now. I love track days too but the expense is too great for Me in this economy. The cost of fuel and registration on a track day covers the entry fee for Me and My wife for an entire season of Autocross. The courses We set up around here are usually 45-60 seconds and can be almost 1 1/2 miles long and we usually get 6 runs. I get two seasons out of a set of tires and the rest of the vehicle wear is negligible. But beyond the relative limited drive time the friends and camaraderie with the "regulars" in the club is priceless.

The difference in lapping and actually competing is huge for Me as well. I've won three regional championships in three different classes, one national tour event and I'm usually in the top third in the Oregon region club which has five national champions as members.

If your bored autocrossing you need to learn to drive faster.

Mark, it sounds like the Detroit area club is very unorganized and could handle some more dedicated people.

Remember the SCCA at that level is all volunteer. If you don't like the way things are going but still want to be involved, get more involved. Become a member of Your local Solo Committee.

I can see those of you who are lucky enough to have real exciting tracks near by like Blackhawk farms, Road America, Willow springs, Infinion etc...that track days would be that much more enticing. Portland International Raceway is fun but flat and 12 turns......gets a little boring after a while. The autocross course is different every time and keeps it fresh.

[Sandbagger]

I will be at the Milwaukee mile on Monday . I run with the Midwest Council guys . They call it HSAX . Its run on real road courses .
Blackhawk , Autobahn , no cones :unibrow: You get three (3) lap practice sessions and guarenteed three timed sessions , usually 5-6
A have a 86 C4. Its compettive ...the kicker is I have just over 6k in it
Thats including the cost of the car ,
125 .00i s typical cost of a day A Class for just about any car

[conekiller13]

I will be at the Milwaukee mile on Monday . I run with the Midwest Council guys . They call it HSAX . Its run on real road courses .
Blackhawk , Autobahn , no cones :unibrow: You get three (3) lap practice sessions and guarenteed three timed sessions , usually 5-6
A have a 86 C4. Its compettive ...the kicker is I have just over 6k in it
Thats including the cost of the car ,
125 .00i s typical cost of a day A Class for just about any car

Sounds like time attack......

http://redlinetimeattack.com/ti/rl/index.html

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4221/4761/23052380174_large.jpg

[Stielow]

Scott picked my car to feature this month. :lateral:

http://www.lateral-g.net/members/stielow/

[Stielow]

You pretty much hit the painful AX thing on the head Mark. It is good for newbies to learn car control. Once you have some basic car control, AX is a complete waste of a weekend day IMHO. Soooooo boooooooring. It is cheaper to buy a ticket to an amusement park as you still get the joy of waiting in line for an hour to get a 38 second really fast ride on roller coasters (that are likely faster overall frankly) and you don't have all the pain of maintaining and burning $$ on fixing a car, tires, gas, etc.

Many of the AX guys, when I really press 'em, come back to an idea that at 60 mph if they loose it they feel they have more chance of catching it and coming out better than at 120 mph on a long sweeper... so I think it is that fear and lack of ability that keeps AX going. Fine by me, and I would prefer fearful and slower people not be on the track when I am on it, so AX certainly has its place, but I agree, not my cup-o-tea.

'Course, if I had it my way everyone would have to run a lap like Top Gear does with celebs, in a simple, provided car, but have to beat a specific and reasonably fast time just to get their driver's license. Half of the Top Gear celeb board should have their licenses revoked until they learn car control and how to actually drive = different topic :lol: That is what AX would be good for :thumbsup:

I cracked up at this :thumbsup:

Stielow

[awr68]

Scott picked my car to feature this month. :lateral:

http://www.lateral-g.net/members/stielow/

Very cool! Love this build! So it's Salsa Red...that's a great color! :thumbsup:

[monza]

Scott picked my car to feature this month. :lateral:

http://www.lateral-g.net/members/stielow/

Cheers to that :cheers:

One of the finest examples of a serious well thought out Pro Touring car!
Can't wait to see it live one day, hopefully at a track.

[GregWeld]

You built one hell of a car Mark!

[phillym5]

Congrats!! She looks fantastic!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

Congrats on the success of the build Mark. :thumbsup:

Nice to have exceeded your expectations in the process.

[mpozziCPL]

Well I did my first SCCA AutoX today in 15 years. It was just liked I remembered. Due to the fact I haven’t been to a Detroit Region SCCA AutoX in a long time I sent the “Director” of AutoXs an email as to what I should do. He said you HAVE to be there before 8:00 to get teched and the first car would be on track at 9:00. OK! I got up at 6:30 this morning got ready and hit the road in my car with visions of cones in my head. I got to the parking lot at 7:45 sharp to see 6 other cars in the parking lot? OK so now I’m here let’s get teched. Some old guy looked at my car for 30 seconds and put a green dot on the windshield and a sticker on my helmet. OK now it is 8:00 LET’s GO because I’m excited. Not so fast you need to go register. OK LET’s GO. I went over and stood in line. When I got to the front of the line the grumpy SCCA lady said I need to see your SCCA card. I said well I registered on line and I didn’t bring it with me. Well after some phone calls I got my number and I was READY to go. At 9:30 we got to walk the parking lot. We walked the lot until 11:00. Alright NOW I’M ready to go. “Not so fast you are in the second run group so you need to work the “Course” as a cone chaser”. OK LET’S GO. I stood in the middle of a parking lot in full sun for 2 ½ hours in 95 degree heat. So when I finished my worker session I got to RACE……I belted in my car sunscreen in my eyes and sweat beading up on my sunburned face. I lined up and launched my car I ran up through first gear….wait….I stayed in first gear for the whole lap. OK I still have visions of cones in my head and I think I can go a little faster. 38.6 seconds later I did go faster……Yeeeehaaaa.
So, for sweating my butt off I got 5 – 38 second laps in a parking lot in Detroit. So for my $25 entry fee I got 3.2 minutes of track time. Or it cost me $7.81 a minute for “track” time. I can go to my local track and run a track event for $200 for 4 – 20 minute sessions. So that is $2.50 dollars a minute for track time and I DON’T HAVE TO STAND IN THE SUN. Humm.. so Auto crossing is cheaper?

As I drove home past all the blight in Detroit with my A/C blowing ice cold on my sun burned face I had a chance to reflect on the day……I still think this sport of ours has a place in it for everyone. If you do something and you like it keep doing it. If you don’t then stop. We all got into this to have fun. I’m going to stick to open track events and the muscle car shoot outs and suck it up during the AutoXs.

I get it. I understand AutoXing. It is just not my cup of tea…..


Check out my fancy numbers.

https://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3148.jpg

Mark ... if you eat enough brussels sprouts, you WILL learn to like them!!! :thumbsup:

And you did an outstanding job with the painter's tape as those numbers don't look bad at all!! Can't believe the event didn't get underway until 11AM and you worked course for that long?? Wow ...

Cheers,
Mary P.

[Stielow]

Mark ... if you eat enough brussels sprouts, you WILL learn to like them!!! :thumbsup:

And you did an outstanding job with the painter's tape as those numbers don't look bad at all!! Can't believe the event didn't get underway until 11AM and you worked course for that long?? Wow ...

Cheers,
Mary P.

Mary

My skills with painters tape are strong. No expense spaired :unibrow:

Well the first run group had 55 drivers that all ran 5 times so let's assume 30 seconds a run. That is 2 hours and 17 minutes. So my 2 ½ hour working the cones was a close estimate but it felt longer.

Undeterred my buddy talked me into trying the Corvette club AutoX in a couple weekend. He said they run a better program. So if you don't like brussels sprouts try lima beans.

I'm also doing an AutoX at the LS Fest next weekend. Good practice for Optima because they have the stop box deal.

Looks like the AutoXs you do out West are better than our stuff here in MI.

Mark

[XcYZ]

I'd think you could set up the mother of all AX courses on Black Lake at the MPG. :unibrow:

[Stielow]

I got a news letter from Grassroots Motorsports that had this image in it. I'm going to assume it is the cover for Nov. But you never know with magazines. :willy:

When I get it in my mail box I'll know for sure...:cheers:



http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/grm-cover-promo-11-10.jpg


Too bad my car broke down there. But, Mike's Elco was a lot of fun.


http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/DSC_0385.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/VIR/DSC_0059.jpg


Mark

[awr68]

Sweet action shots! Congrats on the cover! :thumbsup:

[conekiller13]

Awesome Mark! That's My favorite magazine and one of my favorite annual issues....

[Sandbagger]

When you guys head back to Gingerman, please let me know . I want in
Gingerman has some new pavement I want to try out .

[coolwelder62]

Mark your GM iron look's great on the mag cover.:thumbsup: Scott.( I like my Lima beans in a heavy butter sauce.)

[mpozziCPL]

Mary

My skills with painters tape are strong. No expense spaired :unibrow:

Well the first run group had 55 drivers that all ran 5 times so let's assume 30 seconds a run. That is 2 hours and 17 minutes. So my 2 ½ hour working the cones was a close estimate but it felt longer.

Undeterred my buddy talked me into trying the Corvette club AutoX in a couple weekend. He said they run a better program. So if you don't like brussels sprouts try lima beans.

I'm also doing an AutoX at the LS Fest next weekend. Good practice for Optima because they have the stop box deal.

Looks like the AutoXs you do out West are better than our stuff here in MI.

Mark

Yes, our autocrosses are pretty fast and some are third-gear courses. Very fun. You'll probably like the Corvette event a lot better if they set up their courses for that type of car.

Hate those stop boxes ... and lima beans, too.

Cheers,
Mary

[mad68rs]

Yes, our autocrosses are pretty fast and some are third-gear courses. Very fun. You'll probably like the Corvette event a lot better if they set up their courses for that type of car.

Hate those stop boxes ... and lima beans, too.

Cheers,
Mary

Yea I've been out to a couple of Sacramento Autocrosses at Mather Airport, and I've never seen them run a course smaller then a minute. Even for some of the fastest cars like CP class. The course is also pretty large for autox standards, and they see some third gear action. They go pretty fast.

[Jimmy Sean]

I'm going to assume it is the cover for Nov. But you never know with magazines. :willy:

When I get it in my mail box I'll know for sure...:cheers:



http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/grm-cover-promo-11-10.jpg


Too bad my car broke down there. But, Mike's Elco was a lot of fun.


Mark

Doesn't the cover say October? I'm mot trying to be an ass, just saying.

[Stielow]

Doesn't the cover say October? I'm mot trying to be an ass, just saying.

Your right it says October. I didn't look that close. :thumbsup:

[Van B]

Your right it says October. I didn't look that close. :thumbsup:

But I have the October issue right next to me, and that ain't the cover. Maybe they are mocking up next month's cover and failed to change that part of it.

[ErikLS2]

Mark,

I read over on pt.com that you have done some interesting things with the fuel tank on this car. I've read the whole thread here and haven't found anything, sorry if I missed it.

Could you elaborate on the makings of the fuel tank and fuel pump on this car? I'm in the process of figuring out what to do on my 69.

Beautiful workmanship on the car!

Thank You,
Erik

[JKnight]

I believe this is the thread that Mark started to hash out all of the fuel tank issues.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=23304

[qship510]

Anybody ask this yet?

Mark, how do Red Devil and Jackass compare?

[Flash68]

Anybody ask this yet?

Mark, how do Red Devil and Jackass compare?

Ruh row... don't let Clill see that answer. :_paranoid

[Stielow]

Anybody ask this yet?

Mark, how do Red Devil and Jackass compare?

I learned a ton off Jackass. The 2nd time around was much easier. Due to the fact we documented the build of JA so well it was easier to do a second car.

We had already sorted out:

• Wiring harness
• Engine Cal
• Clutch
• A/C
• Cooling

The main difference is I built the whole car in my shop. I was able to get stuff done just the way wanted it. When you have a shop do it sometimes things are not done exactly like you want them.

JA is a great car and part of the reason I did a bigger engine is to make Red Devil different from JA.

My car was going to have a cammed up LS7 in it until SEMA last year. I drove JA and I wanted a blown engine. Then I drove a 7.0L LS9 and I knew that is what I wanted.

JA and RD both idle at 650 RPM, A/C blows cold, no cooling issues, stop on a dime and hauls butt.

My car would not be as nice as it is if I had not done all the cars I’ve done in the past. I learn something from every build.

Mark

[clill]

R.d.=p.o.s. :D

[wiedemab]

R.d.=p.o.s. :D

Yeah, LS9 '69 Camaro - hasn't that already been done..........Copycat!!! I think some guy named Charlie has one - - - - - - -- - :unibrow:

Seriously though - As many times as I've said that I'm tired of '69 Camaros (yeah, I've said a few times, sorry guys). Cars like J.A. and R.D. (and others) keep making me eat my words. They are simply badass cars and it is still pretty damn hard to beat the styling of a '69 Camaro.

I'm not sure how you top this build, but I have confidence that at some point Mark will proceed to do so. I'll bet he has ideas already.................

[formula98]

I learned a ton off Jackass. The 2nd time around was much easier. Due to the fact we documented the build of JA so well it was easier to do a second car.

We had already sorted out:

• Wiring harness
• Engine Cal
• Clutch
• A/C
• Cooling

The main difference is I built the whole car in my shop. I was able to get stuff done just the way wanted it. When you have a shop do it sometimes things are not done exactly like you want them.

JA is a great car and part of the reason I did a bigger engine is to make Red Devil different from JA.

My car was going to have a cammed up LS7 in it until SEMA last year. I drove JA and I wanted a blown engine. Then I drove a 7.0L LS9 and I knew that is what I wanted.

JA and RD both idle at 650 RPM, A/C blows cold, no cooling issues, stop on a dime and hauls butt.

My car would not be as nice as it is if I had not done all the cars I’ve done in the past. I learn something from every build.

Mark

Any chance you might publish a book that covers the build's? I would buy one! I'd buy a photo copy of your notes!

Great build!

[Bow Tie 67]

R.d.=p.o.s. :D

JackAss!! :)

[clill]

Stielow is on his way back from LS Fest. I believe he won the speed stop challenge, the 1/4 mile and the overall. He came in second to Brian Finch in the autocross. Now he needs to go back to the Walmart parking lot to practice up on Autocross.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Any chance you might publish a book that covers the build's? I would buy one! I'd buy a photo copy of your notes!

Great build!

I wish they had build books on these cars, I'd buy em both.

[awr68]

Stielow is on his way back from LS Fest. I believe he won the speed stop challenge, the 1/4 mile and the overall. He came in second to Brian Finch in the autocross. Now he needs to go back to the Walmart parking lot to practice up on Autocross.

Congrats Mark! Sounds like a great day!! And big improvement on the autox!!

[JohnC]

Congrats Mark! Sounds like a great day!! And big improvement on the autox!!

Yeah, congrats, Mark! :thumbsup:

I'm sure you enjoyed that a little more than your
last experience....:rolleyes:

It sounds like this weekend was a blast!

John:cool:

[BonzoHansen]

Stielow is on his way back from LS Fest. I believe he won the speed stop challenge, the 1/4 mile and the overall. He came in second to Brian Finch in the autocross. Now he needs to go back to the Walmart parking lot to practice up on Autocross.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Stielow]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm going to have to admit this AutoX was a good time. It was over a minute long and had some moderate speed stuff in it. I had a chance to run it a bunch of times and my time got a little better each lap. I can say I never could get the car to WOT unless I wanted to just do a burnout.

We didn't have to shag cones so, between runs we could just hang out and BS. Much better than standing in a parking lot.

I'm still a little off pace but I think I know how to sort that out. I will change a couple small things and I think I will be ready for SEMA and Optima.

Mark

[coolwelder62]

Mark keep up the great work, & good luck in Puhrump.Because of you this sickness has infected me so much.I am trying hard to follow in your foot step's and build quality working car's.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Scott.

[conekiller13]

I'm going to have to admit this AutoX was a good time. It was over a minute long and had some moderate speed stuff in it. I had a chance to run it a bunch of times and my time got a little better each lap. I can say I never could get the car to WOT unless I wanted to just do a burnout.

We didn't have to shag cones so, between runs we could just hang out and BS. Much better than standing in a parking lot.

I'm still a little off pace but I think I know how to sort that out. I will change a couple small things and I think I will be ready for SEMA and Optima.

Mark

See......it's not all bad........:P

[Musclerodz]

What was the field of cars in the competition? I think it is great how well this community represents and usually dominates where ever they go.

[jeff71]

Here is a video of Mark at Chevy High performance Shootout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIddqb-xn5k

[fleetus macmullitz]

Here is a video of Mark at Chevy High performance Shootout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIddqb-xn5k

Nice vid. :thumbsup:

EIddqb-xn5k

[Stielow]

Cool photo off the web.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/LSFest.jpg

Stielow

[evilzee28]

Stielow is on his way back from LS Fest. I believe he won the speed stop challenge, the 1/4 mile and the overall. He came in second to Brian Finch in the autocross. Now he needs to go back to the Walmart parking lot to practice up on Autocross.

Hi Charlie, do you know what sort of times he posted for the speed stop & 1/4 mile drags??

cheers...Nige

[conekiller13]

Nice video Mark.....one thing I couldn't help noticing though was your forklift driving style. Every driving driving instructor I have ever sat next to has been known to paddle those who let the steering wheel spin through an open palm. I'm sure Mary Pozi can back Me up here. Some good shuffle steering will help keep you from getting behind on Your steering inputs and causing some of those under-steer moments.....just a friendly observation.

[Serpa69]

Nice video Mark.....one thing I couldn't help noticing though was your forklift driving style. Every driving driving instructor I have ever sat next to has been known to paddle those who let the steering wheel spin through an open palm. I'm sure Mary Pozi can back Me up here. Some good shuffle steering will help keep you from getting behind on Your steering inputs and causing some of those under-steer moments.....just a friendly observation.

And your handle is cone killer???

[conekiller13]

And your handle is cone killer???

Remember.....those that canot do.....teach.....

I've had ten years of practice since I picked that as a screen name.:willy:

[JohnC]

Nice vid. :thumbsup:

EIddqb-xn5k


Nice sunglasses! :cool:

Those are sweet....:_paranoid :_paranoid :D :D :D :D

[Stielow]

Nice video Mark.....one thing I couldn't help noticing though was your forklift driving style. Every driving driving instructor I have ever sat next to has been known to paddle those who let the steering wheel spin through an open palm. I'm sure Mary Pozi can back Me up here. Some good shuffle steering will help keep you from getting behind on Your steering inputs and causing some of those under-steer moments.....just a friendly observation.

Yep and I drive one handed also.....a no no. :cheers:

[Stielow]

Some photo from the Car Craft guys

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/IMG_6903x.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/2917665.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/IMG_7000x.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/IMG_6756x.jpg

I had to leave early from the event but off memory my times were:

1/4 mile 11.47 at 113 mph I missed 4th gear and coasted throught the lights. My car is not legal to run in to the 10s so I stop making passes. I'm sure on that pass I would have been in the 10s easy if I hadn't tried a WOT shift to 4th. My 1/8 mile MPH was 102 and my 60 foot was 1.82 sec. On Sat we ran a 11.5X sec. at 126 MPH on a 90 degree day spinning hard.

Speed Challange is a 1/8 distance from a lunch at the drag strip timing light to the 1/8 mile traps. My best time was a 8.0X sec. My best speed was 0 - 87 - 0 MPH.

My best Auto X time was a 1:03.8 and Finch ran a 1:03.0

There was a car show but I'm unsure how that factors in.

I have not seen the final results yet but Steve Rupp called and told me I won and Stacy Tucker has all my stuff.

Stielow

[ja.stoner63]

I just love the stance of your car..:thumbsup:

It looks bad a$$!

[Rybar]

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/IMG_6903x.jpg
Stielow

My new favorite Stielow Camaro build photo, that is awesome. :thumbsup:

I do see now the new Forgeline wheels. Looks badass :yes:

[GregWeld]

Mark -- Ya forgot one! You also drive with just one thumb hangin on the wheel!

EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA

I wish I could drive 1/10th as well as you do!

Maybe I need to try some "MS Style"

New saying along with "stick you bitch" -- we're doing it "STIELOW STYLE"!
:woot:

[camcojb]

my new desktop.................... :yes:

[Stielow]

my new desktop.................... :yes:

OK now we can sit next to each other at the Lat-G party and I'll buy you a beer.

Stielow :thumbsup:

[Stielow]

My new favorite Stielow Camaro build photo, that is awesome. :thumbsup:

I do see now the new Forgeline wheels. Looks badass :yes:

I ordered my Forgeline wheels on a Monday and I got them the following Thursday on my door step. Now that is fast customer service!

Stielow

[tones2SS]

My new favorite Stielow Camaro build photo, that is awesome. :thumbsup:

I do see now the new Forgeline wheels. Looks badass :yes:

I agree Ryan. WOW, that car looks killer. :bow:
Great photo.:thumbsup:

[camcojb]

OK now we can sit next to each other at the Lat-G party and I'll buy you a beer.

Stielow :thumbsup:
you're all right, I don't care what Charley says................. :lol:

Jody

[Stielow]

you're all right, I don't care what Charley says................. :lol:

Jody

Jody are you going to Optima?

Mark :D

[camcojb]

Jody are you going to Optima?

Mark :D
uh yeah.................... :)

[olds87]

Was the back end of car stepping out on few corners in auto-x?

[Stielow]

Was the back end of car stepping out on few corners in auto-x?

That happens with 800 ft*lbs of torque.......

[olds87]

That happens with 800 ft*lbs of torque.......

I had to ask. :D

[Track Junky]

I cant believe your taking a liking to the school zone driving........ughhhhhh!!

Apologies to all cone dodgers, sorry, I just can't get into it

[Sales@Dutchboys]

The car just looks sick Mark!:thumbsup:

Paul

[6spdcamaro]

hey mark, i have a question for you, i have been following your build, and am doing a pro touring 67 camaro, i am run the same front sub frame as you and want to know what offset and back space the forgeline wheels you used are front and rear? i don't have pockets quite as deep as yours so im using a shafiroff racing 540 800hp bbc engine with a tko600 5 speed, i found some forged wheels i like but are half the money the forgelines are but want to get the right offset and backspacing first time around as no one near me has forged wheels that big and i don't want to be buying and returning wheels. thx for any info on the wheel dimensions, rm

69 camaros have more room. With a DSE sub they run 18x10's. With a 67 you have to run an 18x9. His sizes won't work for you.

[wrighton]

So I have not been on here in a while. The new forgelines are nice. Did you sell the other wheels?

Congrats on all the track numbers. Way to build a ride and run the crap out of it. Thats what it is all about.

[Stielow]

I re-worked my Forgeline wheels to have a brushed outer and got some new Goodyear tires for Optima. These tires have 220 treadwear and are very grippy.

I'm getting the car ready for SEMA and Optima. The car is working great. I have one more track event to sort out the chassis tuning.

Looking forward to hanging out with all my buddies at SEMA. My car will be in the Optima booth at SEMA.

See you guys at the Lat-G party....:cheers:

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3171.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3178.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3174.jpg

Mark

[camcojb]

car looks great Mark, can't wait to see it in person. Will be great to hang out.............. :thumbsup:

Jody

[awr68]

Yes it does look great!
Might I ask why the new wheels? Are they lighter or did you just want street and track sets? Is that a 325 rear tire?

See ya in Vegas!! :cheers:

[coolwelder62]

Mark the car's lookin good.I have bet the bank on you.:thumbsup: Scott.

[GregWeld]

Can you stop by and flatten out my driveway with those??
:rofl: :thumbsup:

See ya soon!

[Vegas69]

I spy, I spy.:unibrow: You know I like it. :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

Looks awesome Mark. Can't wait to see you run the car at Optima :thumbsup:

[Stielow]

Yes it does look great!
Might I ask why the new wheels? Are they lighter or did you just want street and track sets? Is that a 325 rear tire?

See ya in Vegas!! :cheers:

I wanted some street and track wheels and I also needed a 19 inch rear wheel for the Goodyear tires. The rear is a 325/30R19.

Mark

[tones2SS]

Very nice Mark.:thumbsup:

[awr68]

I wanted some street and track wheels and I also needed a 19 inch rear wheel for the Goodyear tires. The rear is a 325/30R19.

Mark

Ahhhhhh Ha! :thumbsup:

[Bow Tie 67]

Mark did you happen to weigh any of your wheel / tire assemblies?

[akrapovic]

What clutch/flywheel are you running Mark?

[Stielow]

Mark did you happen to weigh any of your wheel / tire assemblies?

No I did not weigh any assemblies. But subjectively the Goodyears are a little heavier than the KDWs.

Mark

[Stielow]

What clutch/flywheel are you running Mark?

Because we used a Callies 6 bolt crank I needed a Lingenfelter steel flywheel to adapt from the LS7 style crank to a LS9 clutch.

http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LPE&Product_Code=L360010105&Category_Code=C62

[akrapovic]

I have driven a ZR1 so i know its manners are excellent, how has it held up to the extra hp?

[Stielow]

I have driven a ZR1 so i know its manners are excellent, how has it held up to the extra hp?

No isses so far but I would not want to do 200 1/4 passes on it. I could smell a little cluch at the drag strip because I have to feather the launch and the 1-2 shift to keep from breaking the tires loose.

For what I use the car for it is perfect. Feels great no chatter light efforts. The Lingenfelter flywheel is the stock ZF flywheel for an LS9 except drilled for 6 bolt crank and lightened. Katech has an aluminum one but I went for the low inertia steel one.

Mark

[akrapovic]

Thanks for the info Mark.

[phillym5]

No isses so far but I would not want to do 200 1/4 passes on it. I could smell a little cluch at the drag strip because I have to feather the launch and the 1-2 shift to keep from breaking the tires loose.

For what I use the car for it is perfect. Feels great no chatter light efforts. The Lingenfelter flywheel is the stock ZF flywheel for an LS9 except drilled for 6 bolt crank and lightened. Katech has an aluminum one but I went for the low inertia steel one.

Mark

Dragstrip??
What did she run/ trap?

[Scorpner]

Wow, great build thread and incredible Camaro. :thumbsup:

[conekiller13]

Hey Mark, read the article in GRM and felt bad the car didn't cooperate. Would have been great to see how it stacked up. Are you planning on taking part again next year? What did you think of that Challenger?

[hifi875]

he raced it at beech bend at the lsfest. I can't remember what he ran. it should be posted on the lsfest.com website.

[clill]

Mark just ran again today at Gingermen and I think he beat his Motorstates lap times by 3 seconds..

[Track Junky]

Mark just ran again today at Gingermen and I think he beat his Motorstates lap times by 3 seconds..

Looking forward to seeing his times, any idea what tires he was running?

[cmraman]

Mark just ran again today at Gingermen and I think he beat his Motorstates lap times by 3 seconds..

I was timing him in the car, fastest lap was 1:33.3. It was a blast.

[camcojb]

Looking forward to seeing his times, any idea what tires he was running?
probably running 220 treadwear F1's if he's practicing for Optima.....................

[NovaBlue71]

Mark just dropped off Red Devil on his way home from gingerman and photo shoot with Robert. Paul and I are going to do a little polishing and detailing for sema. Looks like Mark been driving it like a rental car. We'll get it touched up and looking good in no time. :thumbsup: Joe

[awr68]

Can't say Mark doesn't drive them!! :lol:
I still remember the Mule's cover shot of PHR....very cool action shot! :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

probably running 220 treadwear F1's if he's practicing for Optima.....................

Thanks Jody:)

[camcojb]

Thanks Jody:)
that's just a guess, figured he want some more track time with the tire he'll be running at Optima instead of the sticky race rubber. I'll get him to verify in the thread.

Jody

[cmraman]

probably running 220 treadwear F1's if he's practicing for Optima.....................

An impromtu practice. We were doing a shoot on the car and the track was open and he was itchin' to try out the new tires, so we took it out and timed it. That think is a rocket.:thumbsup:

[Stielow]

that's just a guess, figured he want some more track time with the tire he'll be running at Optima instead of the sticky race rubber. I'll get him to verify in the thread.

Jody

I'm testing tire above 200 treadwear. I need every edge I can get for the Auto X............

When I pick a tire I'll let you know when I sort out what works on my car. I picked up 3.5 seconds a lap with Rob in the car so I think the tuning I have done over the summer worked out. I'm going back to Gingerman and Walmat on Sunday to make my final choice for tires.

Stielow

[JohnC]

An impromtu practice. We were doing a shoot on the car and the track was open and he was itchin' to try out the new tires, so we took it out and timed it. That think is a rocket.:thumbsup:

Hi Robert,

Which PHR issue will those shots appear in? Any sneak peaks?:_paranoid :D ...just kidding.

And which Walmart will that be?...lol

[camcojb]

I'm testing tire above 200 treadwear. I need every edge I can get for the Auto X............

When I pick a tire I'll let you know when I sort out what works on my car. I picked up 3.5 seconds a lap with Rob in the car so I think the tuning I have done over the summer worked out. I'm going back to Gingerman and Walmat on Sunday to make my final choice for tires.

Stielowthanks for posting Mark.

Jody

[Track Junky]

Thanks for posting guy's, I imagine the tires Mark ends up going with will be the same ones I end up using.:)

[Stielow]

I took my car back to Joe and Paul VanNus's last night. They looked at my car like the guys at Avis after we rented car to run at a track event for the weekend. :_paranoid

They will have the car looking great for SEMA.

They did say I kept it shiny. :cheers:

Thanks for the help guys the car is killer.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3216.jpg

But I'm taking it back to Gingerman to sort out the ABS issue.

Stielow

[Vegas69]

I'm not liking all this practice. :unibrow:

[Ron in SoCal]

^ than get out there Todd. I'll meet you at Willow if you need it...!

[Sales@Dutchboys]

hah, great picture lol...Yea Mark said it the best, but nothing a little buffing wont take care of!:thumbsup: The car is just sick though. :hail: hard to believe a year ago it was sitting here in bare metal!

We also installed the new Ring Brothers hinges, they are sweet! and fit great. and for Charley...I hood opens just as far as stock lol

Paul

few pics.....

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/PMV91/DSCF2847.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/PMV91/DSCF2851.jpg

[coolwelder62]

Mark I'm Hoping all your hard will pay off in the long run.Good Luck :thumbsup: Scott

[Stuart Adams]

Looking forward to see it run..

[clill]

Finally a hinge that works like it should. I might just have to get a set.

[JohnC]

hah, great picture lol...Yea Mark said it the best, but nothing a little buffing wont take care of!:thumbsup: The car is just sick though. :hail: hard to believe a year ago it was sitting here in bare metal!

We also installed the new Ring Brothers hinges, they are sweet! and fit great. and for Charley...I hood opens just as far as stock lol

Paul

few pics.....

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p151/PMV91/DSCF2847.jpg





I also see there is a little more red under the hood also (a la ZR1) on the blower cover...Is the front piece gonna get some color too?

Good luck, Mark.:thumbsup:

John

[GregWeld]

Finally a hinge that works like it should. I might just have to get a set.

You'll get 'em when you buy the car... :rofl:

[awr68]

Finally a hinge that works like it should. I might just have to get a set.

I don't know....with the new design I may have a hard time closing the hood! I will keep my v.1 Ring Hinges!! :lol:

[Flash68]

love all that black under the hood. looking forward to seeing this car soon!

[OLDFLM]

I also see there is a little more red under the hood also (a la ZR1) on the blower cover...Is the front piece gonna get some color too?

Good luck, Mark.:thumbsup:

John

Or silver... in all the stock blue and silver areas. :yes:

[tones2SS]

Bad ass car. :yes:

[akrapovic]

Mark, What size kooks headers are you running. i noticed you made mention that the fitment was dead on with their motor mount adapters, how do you think this would translate to a stock subframe.

thanks in advance

[carbuff]

The standard Kook's size for an LS-conversion into a 1st gen is 1 7/8". I believe that Mark said earlier that he purchased the set unwelded so that he could assemble them the way that he wanted, likely optimizing clearances.

BTW, I have a brand new set of these which I just purchased but will be selling. I'm going a different route, haven't even opened the box yet. PM me if interested, I'll post an official for-sale ad next week.

[Stielow]

I dropped my car off to the VanNus's Tuesday night to get "tuned up" for SEMA. I got to their house Saturday night late. The car looked great they had fixed all the road rash and track abuse from the summer.

So undaunted we loaded it up Sunday morning and took it back to Gingerman race way for the last testing.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3220.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3219.jpg

The car is working great! They had us on the new longer course so the lap times aren’t comparable. We were blowing by C-6 Z06s like they were sign posts. Lots of fun. I ran the car hard and only found a couple small problems with ABS calibrations and high speed track use.

After logging about 50 miles on Gingerman we had to take the car back to the VanNus's house to clean it up and fix more paint chips. Joe did not look impressed. lol I took his perfect car and trashed it again. We were lucky with a very good weather so we washed it out in the driveway.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3224.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_3222.jpg

We had a small pile of rubber under the car after we scraped off the wheel wells.

When I left Paul and Joe were touching up paint chips again. Sorry guys. :thumbsup:

The car leaves for SEMA today. The car looks better than it did in June. :hail:

Stielow

[DOOM]

Mark are you going to be with the Optima cars at Sema?

[Stielow]

Mark are you going to be with the Optima cars at Sema?

My car will be in the Optima battery booth at SEMA. :thumbsup:

Stielow

[fleetus macmullitz]

We were blowing by C-6 Z06s like they were sign posts.

:lol:

[Sandbagger]

How do you like the new pavement ? I was there in April .still under construction .
Crissy there ? My all time favorite flag person :unibrow:

What kind of times were you running on the old configuration ? Flying lap ?

[camcojb]

We were blowing by C-6 Z06s like they were sign posts. Lots of fun.

Stielow
that reminds me of our last session at Thunderhill in Charleys Mustang with you driving. We were flying through the field, picking off everyone at ease, like being in the zone. :thumbsup:

Are you keeping Joe and Paul on retainer for touch-ups? :lol:

Jody

[tones2SS]

HA HA! I love it. I can only imagine the people driving the C6 Z06's. Getting passed by a '69 Camaro?!!? lol So awesome!!
Glad to hear Mark.:thumbsup: :cheers:

[Stielow]

Are you keeping Joe and Paul on retainer for touch-ups?

Jody

I think I'm testing Joes' easy going nature with all my antics.:_paranoid

We kept joking “that will buff out”. The car looks awesome they did a great job fixing a summer of abuse.

Stielow

[Stuart Adams]

Joe is the man with that wheel.

[jeff71]

With such a beautiful paint job you should protect it with some clear film on the front and lower half. I think Rupp did it to Penny.

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Well after a pretty busy weekend getting Marks car all ready to go to SEMA, its on its way!:thumbsup:

It was a blast going to gingerman yesterday and running around with a bunch of Z06's and porshes and just flat out blowing by them like they were sitting still. I was laughing like a little school girl going around the track with Mark lol all these corvette guys and porshe lovers never even gave the car a second look untill Mark blew by them out on the track lol. Then they all made their way over to check out what was under the hood..

After we did some more cleaning...putting Mark to work getting all the rubber out of those wheel wells!
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/novablue71/DSCF2857.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/novablue71/DSCF2855.jpg

Heading to SEMA!
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/novablue71/DSCF2862.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/novablue71/DSCF2864.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/novablue71/DSCF2865.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o132/novablue71/DSCF2868.jpg
My dad and I have had a great time working with Mark on this project, we always have a great time working on the car. its been a blast:thumbsup:

Paul

[coolwelder62]

Lookin real good guy's.Tell Mark I said good luck.Scott

[Rybar]

Car looks great guys, but what's up with the massive antenna?? :unibrow:

[67ragtp]

Mark,

Is that smoked glass or green tinted glass you used? The car looks awesome good luck at Optima :thumbsup:

Thanks Rich

[Stielow]

Here is a short video from Gingerman Sunday. It is the new long course.

onwoB_tg1ps

I know I'm driving with one hand but I hurt my right shoulder on Saturday. Should be all set by Optima. :lateral:

Stielow

[coolwelder62]

Mark, car sounds smoooth,Good luck a puhrump:thumbsup: .Scott.

[tones2SS]

It was a blast going to gingerman yesterday and running around with a bunch of Z06's and porshes and just flat out blowing by them like they were sitting still. I was laughing like a little school girl going around the track with Mark lol all these corvette guys and porshe lovers never even gave the car a second look untill Mark blew by them out on the track lol. Then they all made their way over to check out what was under the hood..

Paul

That is hilarious. I LOVE IT! Great job Mark and company.:thumbsup: :cheers:
Have fun at SEMA.

[conekiller13]

Hey Mark,

I noticed in the back of the last issue of GRM that they are going to have an upcoming special article on Pro-Touring. Do you know if that's based of what they saw with Red Devil and the El Camino You ended up driving?

[Stielow]

Hey Mark,

I noticed in the back of the last issue of GRM that they are going to have an upcoming special article on Pro-Touring. Do you know if that's based of what they saw with Red Devil and the El Camino You ended up driving?

Not sure. I'll ask Steve Chrysso if he knows the details.

Mark

[conekiller13]

Not sure. I'll ask Steve Chrysso if he knows the details.

Mark

Thanks,

I did see his car in the background of thier lead in pic......

[68KMARO]

Here is a short video from Gingerman Sunday. It is the new long course.

onwoB_tg1ps

I know I'm driving with one hand but I hurt my right shoulder on Saturday. Should be all set by Optima. :lateral:

Stielow

hope to drive like that with all hands on. great footage, car sounds amazing.

rich

[GregWeld]

Here's what can happen with one handed driving!
:rofl:


jh6y_UTp5wI&feature=player_embedded#!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

holy geeezzz thats a rough vid....if I had that car i'd drive it with no hands. LOL BOINGHGGGGG

[DEIGuy38]

I've been in a few of those accidents. Not fun at all. We ran at Sears Point (Infineon) 2.5 mile and Thunder Hill 3 mile road courses at around 95mph and drafting was fun but wrecking hurt.

[g356gear]

Here is a short video from Gingerman Sunday. It is the new long course.

onwoB_tg1ps

I know I'm driving with one hand but I hurt my right shoulder on Saturday. Should be all set by Optima. :lateral:

Stielow
Love the in dash shift light.:thumbsup:

[hammered65]

Mark, Congrats on the Gran Turismo Best in Show Award at SEMA. I can't wait to take the Red Devil around Le Mans in a future Gran Turismo. Do you know if they will make it available for GT5 or will it be until GT6? Awesome car! You deserve the honors!

[bonecrrusher]

Well considering they just delayed GT5 for like the 18th time - it could make it into that one!!! :willy:

[rokketride]

Mark, Congrats on the Gran Turismo Best in Show Award at SEMA. I can't wait to take the Red Devil around Le Mans in a future Gran Turismo. Do you know if they will make it available for GT5 or will it be until GT6? Awesome car! You deserve the honors!
I was there for the "ceremony". WTG!

[coolwelder62]

Mark the car's lookin good.I have bet the bank on you.:thumbsup: Scott.

Mark cograt's on OPTIMA. You are truely the godfather & Master of protouring.:hail: :hail: :hail: Someday I hope we can meet up. Scott

[96z28ss]

Congrats on the win at Optima.
Its great to know that one from our community here on Lateral-g won the event. We are now 2-1 at the 3rd annual event.

Oh Mark with all the Gopro cameras you won we are expecting some killer videos and multiple camera shots.

[mexMan]

Really, your car is officially awesome, it's so awesome I'll do this:

I, mexMan and the Lateral-G directive table oficcially declare Mark Stielow's Red Devil, formerly called Blue Bomber, '69 Chevy Camaro totally badass ([bad-as] distinctively tough or powerful; so exceptional as to be intimidating.), also would like to recognice it's double win at SEMA and OUSCI as a once in a lifetime event, achieved by the after mentioned car, giving to the same, a fair amount of points at life, this meaning:

this car is officially declared as totally awesome ([aw-suhm] Slang . very impressive) by me and the Lateral-G directive table.

Really, I love it...

[Steve1968LS2]

http://i53.tinypic.com/261kxle.jpg

:thumbsup:

[camcojb]

that's my new laptop background, great pic Steve.

Jody

[coolwelder62]

http://i53.tinypic.com/261kxle.jpg

:thumbsup:

A Nicer guy couldn't have won.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

So awesome. Congrats Mark!:thumbsup: :cheers:

[j-rho]

Well I did my first SCCA AutoX today in 15 years. It was just liked I remembered. Mark, for someone who doesn't autocross very often, you did quite well at winning the Optima autocross event, congratulations. :thumbsup:

I'm putting together a '67 to autocross with the SCCA. Your car/driver combination seems to be the fastest out there so it's a benchmark of sorts, though my car will be much, much less modified than yours.

A couple questions - the day you autocrossed in Detroit, what tires were you on - the 220 street tires, or R compounds?

Top PAX that day was Marcus Meredith in his ESP Mustang, about 2 seconds ahead of you. Do you think if you had autocrossed more recently and were on R compound tires, you would have been able to run his times or better?

Thanks, and congrats again!

[syborg tt]

Saw the car - WOW is all i can say.

It looks like it was built on an assembly line. Perfect !!!!!

I also saw Mark a few time and he always had a crowd around him. Yep he's a celebrity but it seems he doesn't realize it. I just hope he doesn't get one of those reality TV shows that is unless it's just about cars.

[Stielow]

OUSCI Road course. On the out lap I'm heating my tires. I'm glad they the cones don't count on the track. :rofl:

2sAkJ6q9G8w

The AutoX. I have 3.25 gear so I did he whole lap in 1st gear. Thats what 800 ft*lbs can do for you. :lol:

XlvWTthqEmc

I would like to thank Ryan Zwicker for the Go-Pro Videos

Stielow

[coolwelder62]

Mark that's awesome.Congrat's.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[camcojb]

love the double apexing............... :thumbsup: now just waiting for you to get the real autocross video up instead of two road course videos......... :lol:

Jody

[Stielow]

love the double apexing............... :thumbsup: now just waiting for you to get the real autocross video up instead of two road course videos......... :lol:

Jody

OK fixed it.... thanks :lateral:

[PTAddict]

What astounds me, after 5 years of running track days myself, is how fast and consistent Mark is, on an unfamiliar track, no less. The car is obviously awesome - saw it at SEMA and it's essentially perfect - but I'd bet Mark would have won it with any of half a dozen other cars, too.

This is what we shouldn't overlook in this hobby - driving is what it's about. The better you can drive, the better your car is. The better you can drive, the better you know how to build your car. Go out and find your local autocrosses, your nearest track days. I guarantee you, you'll get hooked. Turning wrenches and TIG welding joints will have a whole new meaning.

As for you, Mr. Stielow, I'm guessing you don't like anything that even slightly smacks of hero worship - and good for you. But I still have to say, Mark, I'm in this hobby because of the '96 Hot Rod article on the Red Witch. The vision embodied in that car inspired me, and six builds later, I have my dream car. Thanks, and I hope to lose to you in the next Optima Challenge:)

[Vegas69]

Amazing accuracy and lines on the road course. That really shows me just how bad my lines were that day. I wish I could've listened to the advice you were giving before the event. Watching your videos also shows me just how poorly my car is setup. I'm itching for the next event already. Great job. :thumbsup:

[Cris@JCG]

It was great to watch this car going down the track & to see it in person!
Amazing work & great driver to boot! Congrats Mark :thumbsup:

[Stielow]

Thanks for all the kind words! It has been a crazy year.

This is the Blue Bomber - Red Devil 2 years ago

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSCN2491-1.jpg

This is my car at VanNus's a year ago. It was a primered steel sheel. Also I changed the car from LS7 powered to LS9 power after OUSCI event. Paul, Joe and I were joking that we though it was cool that we got it done because we all had full time jobs and we did it in our spare time.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSC_2867.jpg

This was the car last week :thumbsup:

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/07WM1.jpg

I could not of finished this car with out the help of a lot of buddies.

Paul and Joe VanNus - for paint and body
Ryan Kuhlenbeck - for the whole wiring harnesses and car assembly
Dave Mikels - Engine calibration
Brian Thomson - Engine build
Joe Borscke - Fab work on Rad, Exhaust, Cage

It was great my Mom and Dad got to see the event. They have some great stories to tell there friends back in KC

Stielow

[tones2SS]

Amazing transformation. Killer for sure.:yes:

[JohnC]

My favorite build of all time, Mark......obviously........so far....:_paranoid

:lateral:

[Sales@Dutchboys]

The Red Devil has come a long way in just a year, I remember we were just starting bodywork around the week of SEMA. Badass ride:thumbsup: And im just happy I finally got my ride in it!:D

Paul

[jeff71]

Hey Mark im curious as to how you and Dr. Lillard find all these black plate Camaro's.

[Stielow]

Hey Mark im curious as to how you and Dr. Lillard find all these black plate Camaro's.

I got my car off Ebay. I don't remember where Charley found Jack Ass.

Mark

[clill]

I have Dr Stielows piece of crap here with me till the truck shows up. Drives like crap. What a slug.

[Finch]

I have Dr Stielows piece of crap here with me till the truck shows up. Drives like crap. What a slug.


Nice shop, can I move in with you?

[coolwelder62]

I have Dr Stielows piece of crap here with me till the truck shows up. Drives like crap. What a slug.

Charley have you thought about putting that red camaro on ebay.And cleanin out that shop of your's.:lol: :lol:

[clill]

Uh no. 67 is another black plate car. Jackass was a orig paint car I found in Sacramento. Red Devil was about 60 miles away with orig. family.

[camcojb]

Uh no. 67 is another black plate car. Jackass was a orig paint car I found in Sacramento. Red Devil was about 60 miles away with orig. family.
ah, so that's the 67 someone was talking about.................. :unibrow:

[camcojb]

Nice shop, can I move in with you?
you need to see his other shop............ :thumbsup:

[jimbo]

Now the Red Devil is pretty much done, what is the next project?

[tones2SS]

I have Dr Stielows piece of crap here with me till the truck shows up. Drives like crap. What a slug.

^^ HA HA!:rofl: :_paranoid
Awesome picture.

[Van B]

I was wondering about the black plate thing. Mark, do you register them using someone's address in CA, or just register it to Charley to save time later 'cause he's gonna buy 'em eventually anyway? :lol:

[clill]

Ca doesn't care where you live. They need the money so Mark just registers it as his Michigan address.

[Rick D]

So Charley whats the 67 for???? :D :D

[V8TV]

Thanks to Mark for taking a few minutes at the OUSCI to chat with us.. the car is awesome.

Jctmrk8I3_4

[phillym5]

Very cool....
Cool to put the face to the car. Mark seems like a pretty laid back dude. :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

Mark, post up your shock settings for each event. :lol: The bar has been set!

[Ron in SoCal]

Very cool....
Cool to put the face to the car. Mark seems like a pretty laid back dude. :thumbsup:

Probaly the nest Stielow interview I'ver ever seen...:thumbsup:

[Stielow]

I got my car back from SEMA last Friday and took it out for the last spin of the year before winter. As I was cruising along I noticed bug guts on the windshield and the trip meter we at about 50 mile more than it had at OUSCI. Charley said he could store for a couple days at his place until a shipping company could pick it up..... hummm :faint:

It has been a fun year building this car. As I was doing 4th gear roll on burnout on Woodward I had time to think about how cool this car turned out.

I have a list of things to improve for next summer so I'll start pulling the car apart this weekend.

More Power
Better wheel speed sensors
Re-balance the brakes
Better 5 -6 gears in the box

If I have time I would like to hit more of the OUSCI events next summer.

Stielow

[GregWeld]

There ya go Mark!

Plan your work and work your plan...

Red Devil turned out spectacular... and will be hard to beat... and harder yet to top for a long time. :hail: :hail: :woot:

[Payton King]

I assume that you went with the 18/19 wheel combo for the abs brakes?

What spring rate front and rear did you settle on for the event? Do you bump that up when running race rubber on the big track?

[Stielow]

I assume that you went with the 18/19 wheel combo for the abs brakes?

What spring rate front and rear did you settle on for the event? Do you bump that up when running race rubber on the big track?

I did the 18 - 19 inch rims only to fit the new Goodyear Super Car tires. The spring rates were 550 front and 275 rear. I only ran the BFG R-1 once and did not change spring rates. I need some more time on those to sort it out.

Stielow

[V8TV]

I was wondering about the black plate thing. Mark, do you register them using someone's address in CA, or just register it to Charley to save time later 'cause he's gonna buy 'em eventually anyway? :lol:

Like Charley says, they don't care. I've had CA plates on cars in other states for years. As long as the law enforcement friends are cool with it, you're good.

[V8TV]

Charley said he could store for a couple days at his place until a shipping company could pick it up..... hummm :faint:


You had to know THAT was going to happen!

Thanks again for taking a few minutes with us Mark. Awesome car!

[conekiller13]

Re-balance the brakes


Stielow
Have you thought about going to dual Masters with a balance bar? That gives you the ultimate in adjustment. Just requires a little bit of fire wall surgery. Of course that's if you get it back from Charlie........:faint:

[Stielow]

Have you thought about going to dual Masters with a balance bar? That gives you the ultimate in adjustment. Just requires a little bit of fire wall surgery. Of course that's if you get it back from Charlie........:faint:

I'm going to change the piston diameters on the calipers to get a better optimized brake system do work better with the ABS. I don't want to cut up the car to add a dual master. I like the brake feel of the brake booster for street and track.

Also Charley does not want this car because he said JA is better. :thumbsup:

Stielow

[GregWeld]

Also Charley does not want this car because he said JA is better. :thumbsup:

Stielow


:rofl: :rofl:


Ya are what ya drive.... my pappy used to say.


:rofl: :rofl:

[conekiller13]

I'm going to change the piston diameters on the calipers to get a better optimized brake system do work better with the ABS. I don't want to cut up the car to add a dual master. I like the brake feel of the brake booster for street and track.

Ahh.....I forgot about the ABS. I suppose a dual master would be a pain to set up with that.
So stupid question, can you change the pistons in the calipers you have or are you talking different calipers with different pistons?



Also Charley does not want this car because he said JA is better. :thumbsup:

Stielow

So now You know the secret for keeping your cars.....:lol:

[Vegas69]

I was kidding about the shock settings. I am interested in your scale results. What is your curb weight and nose percentage? I've got the 450's up front with DSE sub and aluminum big block. You have my wheels spinning with your 550's.

[Mick Mc]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/MickMc/SEMA 2010/IMG_6405-1.jpghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/MickMc/SEMA 2010/IMG_6399-1.jpghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/MickMc/SEMA 2010/IMG_6398-1.jpg

[tones2SS]

I have a list of things to improve for next summer so I'll start pulling the car apart this weekend.
More Power
Better wheel speed sensors
Re-balance the brakes
Better 5 -6 gears in the box
If I have time I would like to hit more of the OUSCI events next summer.
Stielow
Very nice Mark. Car did turn our great. What a machine.
Already looking to next year and the upgrades/updates!:thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I have a list of things to improve for next summer so I'll start pulling the car apart this weekend.

More Power

Stielow

Mark, what mods will you do to make more power?

[Stielow]

Mark, what mods will you do to make more power?

Brian Thomson has some ideas to get the engie up to 800 HP and still run on 93 octane. He has some other engines like mine going on his dyno soon so we have some combos to test. The first is a larger throttle body.

Stielow

[DIGI-TAILS]

Awesome build Mark!!! Thanks for the updates... :)

[GNon18s]

What are the current wheels on this car? I thought it had Fikse's on it originally but seems they have been changed at some point?

[olds87]

They are Forgeline GA3 wheels

[JohnC]

What are the current wheels on this car? I thought it had Fikse's on it originally but seems they have been changed at some point?

Here ya go...

http://www.forgeline.com/customer_gallery.php?product_key=87

...the outers are now brushed also.

[Sales@Dutchboys]

probably just need to build a whole new one for next year...that one would look good in a chevy II!!:D

Paul

[Stielow]

probably just need to build a whole new one for next year...that one would look good in a chevy II!!:D

Paul

If I tried to do another car for next year I think it would kill me....:faint:

Paul we looked at the wheels in your driveway and I go back and forth on which ones I like better. Just to keep things fun I should have yet another new set for Autoramma. :unibrow:

I would like to go on record that I love LS engines. I just pulled the trans out of my car today and the bottom of the car is bone dry. Just a little road grim but no oil except for a small amount from the blown P/S rack. The car has never leaked since day one. I think the trick is I now pressure check every hose and tank before I install it on the car.

Looking over the car everything looks great. I few loose bolts but nothing big for as much track time as this car saw this year.

Mark

[Sales@Dutchboys]

well...not a whole new car just a new engine!:D Yea Im still a fikse lover...not biased or anything thing lol. Are they the ones you showed us from the guy from detroit was it? looking forward to seeing them!

I look forward to going for another ride next year!:thumbsup:

Paul




If I tried to do another car for next year I think it would kill me....:faint:

Paul we looked at the wheels in your driveway and I go back and forth on which ones I like better. Just to keep things fun I should have yet another new set for Autoramma. :unibrow:

I would like to go on record that I love LS engines. I just pulled the trans out of my car today and the bottom of the car is bone dry. Just a little road grim but no oil except for a small amount from the blown P/S rack. The car has never leaked since day one. I think the trick is I now pressure check every hose and tank before I install it on the car.

Looking over the car everything looks great. I few loose bolts but nothing big for as much track time as this car saw this year.

Mark

[Stielow]

My buddy Gordon was at Optima and took some great pictures.

I thought these were good.

Muscle car with out ABS..

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/10SEMA_429.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/10SEMA_430.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/10SEMA_431.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/10SEMA_432.jpg

Muscle car with ABS...priceless

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/10SEMA_446.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/10SEMA_447.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/10SEMA_448.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/10SEMA_453.jpg

I have my rear axle apart and I think I have a solution for my ABS fault issues. Once I get the parts made I'll share my design.

Stielow

[Steve68]

Wow, thats a big difference in pics, and most likely the condition of tires!!!

Mark, thats great on sharing, really interested in the whole ABS set up, Steve

[GregWeld]

Personally.... I have the maturity of a sophomore in high school... and prefer the smoke and screeching tires and wubba flying. :unibrow:



Nice job Mark! Amazing difference!

Gordon got some really nice shots there too!

[tones2SS]

Wow, thats a big difference in pics, and most likely the condition of tires!!!

^^Man, you said it. The proof is in the pictures. Awesome job Mark.
Look forward to your progress on the rear axle.:thumbsup:

[Budweasel]

Not intended to highjack thread but I'm sure there are many novices, (like me), reading this build thread and some might have this question:

How would the elimination of the 4 point roll bar affect the chassis, (specifically first gen Camaro)?

I'm very interested to know if this is a must have to keep car from twisting. In your opinion, would it be useless to spend the money on subframe and aftermarket rear suspension and not add a roll bar?

I have two boys under 5 that I'd like to share this hobby with and would like to weigh out options. I'm 80% certain I'd rather be able to put them in the back seat without a roll bar versus having a two seat Camaro that gains the last x% of performance.

[conekiller13]

Not intended to highjack thread but I'm sure there are many novices, (like me), reading this build thread and some might have this question:

How would the elimination of the 4 point roll bar affect the chassis, (specifically first gen Camaro)?

I'm very interested to know if this is a must have to keep car from twisting. In your opinion, would it be useless to spend the money on subframe and aftermarket rear suspension and not add a roll bar?

I have two boys under 5 that I'd like to share this hobby with and would like to weigh out options. I'm 80% certain I'd rather be able to put them in the back seat without a roll bar versus having a two seat Camaro that gains the last x% of performance.

You can always have a removable cross bar for the times you are street cruisin'.

[bdahlg68]

Not intended to highjack thread but I'm sure there are many novices, (like me), reading this build thread and some might have this question:

How would the elimination of the 4 point roll bar affect the chassis, (specifically first gen Camaro)?

I'm very interested to know if this is a must have to keep car from twisting. In your opinion, would it be useless to spend the money on subframe and aftermarket rear suspension and not add a roll bar?

I have two boys under 5 that I'd like to share this hobby with and would like to weigh out options. I'm 80% certain I'd rather be able to put them in the back seat without a roll bar versus having a two seat Camaro that gains the last x% of performance.

Or maybe you don't need 800 some odd ft-lbs of torque and therefore also not the cage?

[James OLC]

I have my rear axle apart and I think I have a solution for my ABS fault issues. Once I get the parts made I'll share my design.

Stielow

very interested in this Mark - looking forward to seeing it

[TonyHuntimer]

They strip them for $50. For assembled hose ends it may cost more due to the stainless steel pin in the fitting that can't be anodized. You will need to call them to get the details on hose ends. I only did adaptor fittings, trim rings, battery holders and knobs.

Mark

I know this is a really old post...but it's the first time I got to go through it. Did you know that you can simply buy all the fittings already black hard anodized from XRP? :)

http://www.livermoreperformance.com/images/xrp/212010BB.jpg

Great build thread! The car looked and performed awesome out at OUSCI, but you don't need me to tell you that. I thought this car was named "The Hack"? :)

Tony Huntimer
RaceHome.com

[preston]

Did this car ever see a chassis dyno in the current tune ? Probably a dumb question because I can't imagine it hasn't been posted on this thread. Would be interesting to see the comparison to the engine dyno.

Good points about the engine and leaks. I thought I was the only one. Always finding little (and not so little drips) here and there. Always thought braided hoses and AN fittings were the bomb but now I"m finding that most of them end up leaking a bit too. Usually around the hose/joint interface, or I suspect on the swivel fittings maybe the swivel area, hard to say, you can clean it up and idle and driveway rev it all day long - no leaks. Street drive, mild leaks. Track drive - messy leaks. I couldn't afford it during buildup, but slowly I'm replacing my hand built hoses with pro-crimped style. Saves weight too.

With the latest artivcle from Hot Rod on the PTFE hoses I'm trying to figure out which ones are teflon as well. The Aeroquip startlite stuff is still rubber hose. My fuel is all teflon but its the old style stiff teflon stuff.

Anyway don't want to hijack into a hose topic, just letting you know I appreciate your excitement about a leak free motor.

[Stielow]

I got some new wheels for Autoramma. They are from Formula 43 and made here in Detroit. Very nice wheels. www.formula43.com

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/IMG_86211.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSCN0082.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSCN0079.jpg

:thumbsup:

Stielow

[BBC71Nova]

I think you could put some chrome 30" spinners on it and it would still be bad a$$ :yes: .

What color red is that?

John

[coolwelder62]

I got some new wheels for Autoramma. They are from Formula 43 and made here in Detroit. Very nice wheels. www.formula43.com

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/IMG_86211.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSCN0082.jpg

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/DSCN0079.jpg

:thumbsup:

StielowMark,Car look's great under the light's.Congrat's on the win at Optima.:thumbsup: Scott M.

[Stielow]

Some press from Australia

My buddies from Holden sent me this. Very cool.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq118/Stielow65/Red%20Devil/Untitled-1.jpg

Stielow

[Sieg]

When you get the mates Down Under attention and respect you know you've made the big time. :D :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

The car looks sweet as usual. I lik ethe wheels.

[DOOM]

Mark......... Thats a nice looking wheel!! The red just pops under the lights...

[Gandalf]

I got some new wheels for Autoramma. They are from Formula 43 and made here in Detroit. Very nice wheels. www.formula43.com

:thumbsup:

Stielow


Really nice wheel Mark! A combination look of my favorite wheels - Forgeline WC3 and a Fikse style center. Prices look good too!

Top notch as always Mark!

G.

[conekiller13]

Sensational as always. :thumbsup:

[ironworks]

Mark - Did you run ceramic brakes on this car or just Jackass? If so what parking brake mechanism did you use for the rear corvette brakes? I have a project I'm working on to combine that currently.

Thanks

[Mick Mc]

I have my rear axle apart and I think I have a solution for my ABS fault issues. Once I get the parts made I'll share my design.

Stielow
Very interested in this too.


Mick

[Stielow]

Mark - Did you run ceramic brakes on this car or just Jackass? If so what parking brake mechanism did you use for the rear corvette brakes? I have a project I'm working on to combine that currently.

Thanks

I ran iron rotors on Red Devil vs. Jackass. The main reason was ABS calibration with iron rotors vs. carbon fiber. The carbon fiber rotors require a unique ABS calibration. I'm working on sorting out the carbon rotor ABS issue. The carbon rotors can be a bit touchy at the limit for tire lock-up.

For the parking brake I used Baer racing stuff modified to use the Corvette brakes.

I'm building some new stuff for resolve some ABS sensor issues and a more robust park break system.

If it works I'll post some photos soon.

I have sent the math data to the machine shop and I should have parts soon.

Mark Stielow

[DOOM]

Mark is it a heat issue with the carbon rotors for the ABS???

[Stielow]

Mark is it a heat issue with the carbon rotors for the ABS???

The characteristic of the carbon brakes are a lot differernt from the iron rotor system. As the carbon brakes get hotter they gain output to a point. Once iron rotors get warm there output goes down as they get hotter. The ABS calibration is unique for the ZR-1 with carbon brakes and the controller is made by Bosch. I used a Delphi controller on Red Devil and could not sort out the Bosch system yet. My system was optimized around the iron rotors of the stock Z06 system. I'm working on sorting out the carbon brakes better. They work great on Jackass and on Polly's car at the OUSCI. It just takes a slighly different technique (talent) to drive them with out ABS.

Stielow :lateral:

[coolwelder62]

The characteristic of the carbon brakes are a lot differernt from the iron rotor system. As the carbon brakes get hotter they gain output to a point. Once iron rotors get warm there output goes down as they get hotter. The ABS calibration is unique for the ZR-1 with carbon brakes and the controller is made by Bosch. I used a Delphi controller on Red Devil and could not sort out the Bosch system yet. My system was optimized around the iron rotors of the stock Z06 system. I'm working on sorting out the carbon brakes better. They work great on Jackass and on Polly's car at the OUSCI. It just takes a slighly different technique (talent) to drive them with out ABS.

Stielow :lateral:The Man.:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:

[CMCResto.com]

Mark,
Hey I stopped by your car a couple times over the weekend at the Detroit Autorama but never caught up with you. I did buy a copy of your book...very cool!
Hopefully I will see you at some Goodguys shows over the year with my "Project Nasty" 69 Mustang.

http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y335/ChristianaMuscleCars/Detroit-Autorama-2011/Autorama-0311041.jpg

[DOOM]

The characteristic of the carbon brakes are a lot differernt from the iron rotor system. As the carbon brakes get hotter they gain output to a point. Once iron rotors get warm there output goes down as they get hotter. The ABS calibration is unique for the ZR-1 with carbon brakes and the controller is made by Bosch. I used a Delphi controller on Red Devil and could not sort out the Bosch system yet. My system was optimized around the iron rotors of the stock Z06 system. I'm working on sorting out the carbon brakes better. They work great on Jackass and on Polly's car at the OUSCI. It just takes a slighly different technique (talent) to drive them with out ABS.

Stielow :lateral:

Thanx Mark!! I'll be watching for updates. I would love to use ABS with my ZR-1 brake setup...

[vetteduck]

Pumped to watch the coverage on SPEED tonight of the Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational, the Red Witch is just a fantastic build from so many standpoints. Ever since I've started reading about Stielow's latest build in magazines and now in this thread, I've been curious as to where the track tow hook was sourced. I've searched the web and found few instances of 1st gen Camaros with tow hooks installed, and it appears to be a custom set up. I want to put one on my 68 and unfortunately, as with the rest of my build so far l rely on seeing what other's have done that I like. Essentially I'd like to copy cat a tow hook set-up, but so far this is the best example I've seen of one on a 1st gen. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
Once again, great build! Once I found this thread I was online for hours going through every page of it!
:thumbsup:

[senor_Camaro]

I just stubbled on your thread, I love what you have done to the camaro. Absolutley awesome, You beat me to the punch of putting an abs system in a 1st gen, I had been working on the details of the swap. Awesome job!

[BillyBobL71]

Mark,

Congrats on your accolades at SEMA and the Optima challenge. Followed your builds over the years, and thought you had reached the pinnacle with the Mule. Going to be tough to top this one!

Read that you have 3.25 gears out back. I'm curious as to your thought process on arriving at that number. Do you have some different gears in the T56? I'm finishing up a similar 69 with an LS7/T56. Currently have 4.10s and finding 1st gear is worthless, but with a 3.25 my top two gears would be really steep. How does it work with your setup?

Thanks,
Bill

[rat_rod_russell]

Mr. Stielow, Where do we buy your book I see people talking about? Does is detail your ABS system work? And does it go over your computer choices for the ECM's and if or what you did with the LAN systems for the LS7/LS9?

Thanks
-Russell

[clill]

You can order the book at http://sdparts.com/ but it does not detail the ABS. Mark isn't going to risk someone getting hurt relying on info he gives out. If he gets it all sorted out to where it is bulletproof I'm sure he will let everyone know how to do it.

[rat_rod_russell]

You can order the book at http://sdparts.com/ but it does not detail the ABS. Mark isn't going to risk someone getting hurt relying on info he gives out. If he gets it all sorted out to where it is bulletproof I'm sure he will let everyone know how to do it.

I don't know what to search for or I'm just looking in the wrong places. Could you please pull up a link to the book specifically.

Thanks again