...

Go Back   Lateral-g Forums > Technical Discussions > Chassis and Suspension
User Name
Password



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-01-2006, 11:16 PM
ArisESQ ArisESQ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Gatos
Posts: 765
Thanks: 8
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Default heidts drop spindles

ive been seeing a lot of positive reviews on the ATS tall spindles that supposodely correct camber angle by raising the upper ball joint by an inch or so... well apparantly these heidts spindles do the same, and are considerably cheaper. so whats the overall consensus? good or bad?

http://www.heidts.com/heip41.htm
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-02-2006, 12:26 AM
Teetoe_Jones Teetoe_Jones is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: La La Land, CA
Posts: 856
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Do a search for a 2 inch pin drop and find out why they are bad on Camaros.

Tyler
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-03-2006, 05:26 PM
Leadfoot1's Avatar
Leadfoot1 Leadfoot1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: MONTREAL- CANADA
Posts: 705
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Spindle.

How much cheaper???

I saw SC&C's set up + ATS spindle for around 900$....Figuring a set of UCL are about 500$...it puts the spindle somewhere around 400$ (?Tyler) vs 300$ for the Heidts...


Guess i'd have to ask...

Lead.
__________________
LEADFOOT1

New for summer '13. My latest find!!

48k miles, 100% original, 1969 Camaro coupe. Untouched, never apart and squeaky clean!!! 327/th350, A/C car. Gold on black w/vinyl top. Only add ons; Fast ratio box and SS396 wheels.

FINALLY!!! A car without rust repairs ever!!! None before, none coming!!! Cant come to modifying it tough....

...So, '67 Camaro project with my laying around stuff out of my black 'vert. 468 BB and YSI blower, braked th400, 12 bolt/spool, 35 splines etc. Complete Calvert suspension front and rear. 30x13.5 ET Streets, caged, lightened, slammed and running low 9's "Street car"
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-03-2006, 11:54 PM
ArisESQ ArisESQ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Gatos
Posts: 765
Thanks: 8
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leadfoot1
How much cheaper???

I saw SC&C's set up + ATS spindle for around 900$....Figuring a set of UCL are about 500$...it puts the spindle somewhere around 400$ (?Tyler) vs 300$ for the Heidts...


Guess i'd have to ask...

Lead.

and you also have to take into consideration that you would need a different set of front brakes, which is a pretty good chunk of change.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-04-2006, 06:09 AM
Mkelcy's Avatar
Mkelcy Mkelcy is offline
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Walla Walla, WA
Posts: 566
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ill steez
and you also have to take into consideration that you would need a different set of front brakes, which is a pretty good chunk of change.
I suggest you do as Tyler suggested and do a search. I doubt you'll find any knowledgable poster who has good things to say about 2" drop spindles. Also, most of us who are looking for better handling from the front suspension of our first generation Camaros are also looking for better braking, so the brake swap, for us, doesn't really represent a cost increase. If you're only after the lowered look, and don't care about the other issues presented by the dropped spindles, by all means go ahead.

So to answer your question, no the Heidt's 2" drop spindles are a bad substitute for the ATS spindles for a performance use.
__________________
Mike - '68 Camaro with some stuff done to it
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-04-2006, 09:56 AM
darren@ridetech's Avatar
darren@ridetech darren@ridetech is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Vendor
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Jasper,IN
Posts: 140
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I put a set of Fatman's G-force spindles on my Chevelle. They are also a taller drop spindle. They do drop down the steering arm to correct the bumpsteer. I have a set of 18 x 8.5's on the front and have not had any clearance problems. That is on a Chevelle though, the spindle is the same but the steering arm might be a bit different. Not sure.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-04-2006, 10:46 AM
MarkM66's Avatar
MarkM66 MarkM66 is offline
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: St. Louis MO
Posts: 1,962
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Darren, do you know what backspacing those wheels have?

I think that's where the clearance concerns are.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-04-2006, 12:15 PM
Teetoe_Jones Teetoe_Jones is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: La La Land, CA
Posts: 856
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Darren-
Shame on you. You should know that dropping the steering arm points on a front steer chassis such as an A body makes the bumpsteer curve even WORSE than factory does.
Read these 2 threads:

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140829

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142187

Tyler
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-04-2006, 03:43 PM
darren@ridetech's Avatar
darren@ridetech darren@ridetech is offline
Lateral-g Supporting Vendor
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Jasper,IN
Posts: 140
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I did a 5" backspacing on the front and a 6" on the rear. This is on a 70 Chevelle with our Street Challenge kit on it, so I have to make sure they would tuck. These are the first pics that I have taken of the car. (Took them about 3 minutes ago.) Just got it about a month ago and just finshed the wheels, air ride and disc brakes the other day!

Tyler,
Rodney, (our fab. guy) measured the bumpsteer and such so I will check with him to see what he got.
Attached Images
  
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-04-2006, 11:09 PM
ArisESQ ArisESQ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Los Gatos
Posts: 765
Thanks: 8
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mkelcy
I suggest you do as Tyler suggested and do a search. I doubt you'll find any knowledgable poster who has good things to say about 2" drop spindles. Also, most of us who are looking for better handling from the front suspension of our first generation Camaros are also looking for better braking, so the brake swap, for us, doesn't really represent a cost increase. If you're only after the lowered look, and don't care about the other issues presented by the dropped spindles, by all means go ahead.

So to answer your question, no the Heidt's 2" drop spindles are a bad substitute for the ATS spindles for a performance use.

some of us already have money invested in larger brakes on the stock spindles, so having to pay another $X,000 doesent really make much financial or logical sense. so like i said. it does represent a cost increase.

i wish they made those ATS spindles compatible with the aftermarket brakes i have now.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net