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Old 03-31-2015, 09:46 PM
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Default What's your thoughts on "Built Not Bought?"

http://www.salzmoto.com/featured-wor...t-is-bull****/

It's a long read, but a good one. It's talking about the phrase "built not bought" in the motorcycle world; but if you replace motorcycle with car I think it transfers over perfectly.

Is the phrase "built not bought" hurting our industry as well? Personally I think it's cool when a person has built a car themselves. But I don't look down on people that "buy" their car either. If you don't have the skills, and have the money, more power to yah. As long as you're having fun, then heck yah.

I know that if I had the money, I'd definitely have cars built for me.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 03-31-2015, 10:12 PM
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The education system has de-emphasized shop skills for years now.......most of the newer generations don't have a choice as they have no mechanical skill whatsoever.

Sad, but true.

The upside is there is a very small niche market for garage builders.
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Old 03-31-2015, 10:23 PM
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Good article but like other topics, its subject to everyones opinion. There is no true definition to it. No one should be shamed for buying their cars or bikes instead of building them. Not all of us are capable or talented enough to be able to build what we want. I like the suggested hashtags, #SupportTheIndependants, #BuiltWithFriends, & #BoughtWithPride. I think what we do is more about the relationships we build with others, the friends we make and the journey that goes along with being a car guy/gal. Not debating with our fellow hobbyists about why my car is better than theirs because it was #BuiltNotBought.
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Seeing all the fricken death traps out there, I don't give a #%#$# just as long as its done right, safe and your happy with it.
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If a guy can't set his own timing I will think less of him no matter how hot his ride is. To me this hobby is more than buying something. It's the mentality.

It's about building. It's about messing with ****.

I just sold my all original 70 W30 because I COULDN'T mess with it. Yeah, I could have but why do that versus some 6 banger that has minimal comparitive value? Owned it for multiple decades.

The guys that make a "pro touring" car out of a L78 Camaro, a L72 Vette or some other rare car I just shake my head at.

There are two sides to this hobby. Don't cut up a rare car and no one cares about a 327 Camaro.

Build from there.
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Old 04-01-2015, 01:31 AM
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If a guy can't set his own timing I will think less of him no matter how hot his ride is. To me this hobby is more than buying something. It's the mentality.

It's about building. It's about messing with ****.

I just sold my all original 70 W30 because I COULDN'T mess with it. Yeah, I could have but why do that versus some 6 banger that has minimal comparitive value? Owned it for multiple decades.

The guys that make a "pro touring" car out of a L78 Camaro, a L72 Vette or some other rare car I just shake my head at.

There are two sides to this hobby. Don't cut up a rare car and no one cares about a 327 Camaro.

Build from there.
Guess what? People can do whatever the hell they want and most people don't give a rats a** what you or anyone else thinks.

I'm the type of guy who would make a "pro-touring car out of an L78 or L72 Vette or some other rare car" and do a burn-out in your drive way just because it would piss you off. Actually, I would have someone else build it, then burn out in your driveway, then set it on fire in the street in front of your house, film it and make an infinitely looping 100 MB .gif and email it to you every day.

Anyway, digressing so the adults can have a discussion, I don't give two fives as long as someone thinks their ride is cool and isn't completely clueless/douche magnet about what they have (e.g. if they bought it that way). Knowledge has gotta start somewhere, and sometimes that might mean buying before embarking blind on a five figure car build.

I find that, as I get older and the 8-5 demands more of me, I don't have the time to spend wrenching like I used to. I will probably eventually just buy another nice pro-touring ride and call it a day. I'll keep a 10 page list of excuses as to why I did it in case I run into the likes of 70w30 so I'll be able to defend myself, because I'm really concerned about what other people think of me.
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I think as long as its built safe and with quality in mind it doesn't matter who built it. I've seen first hand shop work that wasn't welded right, put together square, etc etc. And I've seen garage builds were I was scared for people to be on the road with them and vice versa.

Build to the best of your ability and farm out things if needed. Buy one built if time is more important then money and the cars built correct. I won't look down on anyone.

No car is really original or rare anymore if your putting Taiwan replacement sheet metal in place of the original sheet metal. Cut up anything you want and have fun doing it. Things can always be reversed for the purest.
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Personally I wish I was in the position to buy them instead of building them. If a guy buys a done car that doesn't make him any less of an enthusiast in my eyes.
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I don't even get it?
I Build all my stuff,(or our shop does) with Bought parts. so where does that fit in.

show me ONE build where the GUY Built EVERY PART!. if that isn't the case the discussion is worthless.
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I don't even get it?
I Build all my stuff,(or our shop does) with Bought parts. so where does that fit in.

show me ONE build where the GUY Built EVERY PART!. if that isn't the case the discussion is worthless.
Pretty sure Tim wasn't meaning you had to build all your parts too, though you come closer than most.
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