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Old 03-27-2015, 06:22 PM
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Question Need Fabrication Consultant - 71 Javelin Road Race/Street Legal Project

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I'm in need of some help with a stalled project - a 71 Javelin street/road race project. It's been sitting in storage for the past 2 years; I'm active duty Army and have been stationed in Korea. Moving to Italy (Naples) this summer; will be there for 2-3 years. Plan to bring the car with me; have an extensive tool collection and will have a place to work on it, but this is my first road race car build and I'm in need of advice and guidance with piecing it all together.

I don't have a license for wheel to wheel racing and I'm not ready for it yet, but thought I would build something that would be legal (or close to it) for NASA American Iron. Also want it to be street legal, but I really do not need any creature comforts - don't need carpet, A/C, heater, radio, or anything like that.

Here's where I am:

Started off with a rust free low mile California 1971 Javelin.

Full cage by Piper Motorsports in Sterling, VA.

Added a NASCAR type full floater 9" with a TrueTrac diff and 1* negative camber from Speedway Engineering. It sits on custom fiberglass leaf springs.

Front suspension is mostly stock, but plan to run coil overs with boxed LCA's, have stock UCA's now but will probably custom adjustable UCA's.

I built a pump gas friendly 401 with a wet sump road race pan, custom flat tappet cam, aluminum heads - close to 500 hp.

Transmission is a T10 close ratio 4 sp. Lakewood bell housing. Dual disc clutch.

Wilwoods front (13") and rear (11.75").

I'm looking for help nailing down a general plan on what to attack in what order. Then I'll need some fabrication advice on how to make that happen. Right now, I really don't need something that's optimized. I'm looking for simplicity and function. I can upgrade at a later date.

Any thoughts or recommendations?

Thanks!

Scott
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Old 03-27-2015, 07:15 PM
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It sounds like you have all the goodies already, put the pile of parts together and go wheel the thing!
If it were me, I'd figure out what to do on the front end and put it all together. It sounds like the front suspension is the only hang up....reinforce the stock set up and get it going and figure what needs to be done from there.
Sounds like a great project and from the list of other cars you own you know what you're doing.
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Old 03-27-2015, 09:09 PM
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It sounds like you have all the goodies already, put the pile of parts together and go wheel the thing!
If it were me, I'd figure out what to do on the front end and put it all together. It sounds like the front suspension is the only hang up....reinforce the stock set up and get it going and figure what needs to be done from there.
Sounds like a great project and from the list of other cars you own you know what you're doing.
Here's a picture of it from a few years before I bought it. It's a fairly rare car - originally 401 and loaded - P/S, PDB, A/C, auto, console, luggage rack, etc. I found it in Woodbridge, VA on Craigslist. Was a stalled project at that point. Think I paid $3,000 for it and got lots of extra parts. Sold the extras that I didn't need for $3,000 so it was actually a "free' car at one point.



And here's what it looked like recently.




9" full floater, 1* negative camber, 3.50 gear, TrueTrac diff, 11.75" Wilwoods, etc.






Custom UCA next to the stock UCA.


Boxed stock LCA's (no pun intended)



Firewall - closed up unnecessary holes.



Cage





Here's the 401 - bored .030, balanced, unported Edelbrock heads, single plane intake, shorty headers, custom flat tappet from Harold Brookshire.



Front brakes - believe rotors are 13". Originally designed/used on f-body.

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It sounds like you have all the goodies already, put the pile of parts together and go wheel the thing!
If it were me, I'd figure out what to do on the front end and put it all together. It sounds like the front suspension is the only hang up....reinforce the stock set up and get it going and figure what needs to be done from there.
Sounds like a great project and from the list of other cars you own you know what you're doing.
Yeah, the intent is to get it going, but still have several things that need done that will take some time - fabbing a dash, dash bar, installing pedals (hang from dash bar), bodywork and paint, installing custom steering column, wiring, plumbing, etc.

I know what I'm doing on a restoration, but not so much when it comes to fabrication. I have a nice drill press, Miller 211, oxy/acetlyne setup, grinders, press, vise, band saw, etc, but my fab experience is limited.
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Spoke with Ron earlier today. Will probably end up working with him later on, but right now, I need help with more basic stuff, as detailed above.

Thanks,

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That sounds like an easy job. Too bad I don't like Korean food I'd give a hand.
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Let's get a full list of the stuff you need done.

We can help you put it in order then we can see what your up against.
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That sounds like an easy job. Too bad I don't like Korean food I'd give a hand.
No worries if you don't like kimchee; I'm looking for e mail/phone consultation. Plan to do the work myself.

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Haaaa haaaa right on.

I can actually tolerate Kimchee


Let's see that list.
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