repainting - Lateral-g Forums

lutzy · #1 08-05-2013, 06:58 AM

So im about to paint my car and change colors..the question is that my paint job on the car is excellent..do I ask the auto painter to take it back down to metal or do they just wetsand the clear and just repaint?

Musclerodz · #2 08-05-2013, 07:24 AM

What does the shop want to do? If it is excellent as you say, should be no need to go to bare metal, but the shop may want to for warranty reasons. There will be a major difference in cost as well.

lutzy · #3 08-05-2013, 09:35 AM

They said they just wanted to scuff and repaint it for $7000. I just wanted to know if that's what you usually do when you have newer paint on the car already. Needs no body work at all.

Musclerodz · #4 08-05-2013, 10:50 AM

every car is different, every car owner has a different opinion of the quality of their car. If it is as good as you say it is and they can deliver the finish you want I would not have a problem doing it. How much disassembly are they going to do for a color change?

lutzy · #5 08-05-2013, 02:19 PM

nothing is in writing yet. I will sit down with the shop owner this week and go over everything. He just gave me a ball park price of $7k. Is there anything I should request them do as far as prep or disassembly? He did say they use PPG products but will use any paint type I want. I have DuPont hot hues on the car now and am happy with the quality, just not the 2 tone colors.

analyte · #6 08-05-2013, 03:51 PM

My recommendation is to use whatever paint brand the shop normally uses. It's important for the shop to know the paint system regarding flash times, mixing ratios, part numbers, etc.

If you prefer Dupont, you should find a shop that uses that material all the time. Of course, YMMV.

Kerry

Musclerodz · #7 08-05-2013, 05:31 PM

If they use PPG, let him use PPG. Nothing wrong with it. with proper color change really need to blow it apart so all the edges and jambs get painted correctly.

lutzy · #8 08-05-2013, 06:45 PM

So Im guessing they should remove doors,hood,trunk & fenders to do a good job? Thanks for the info by the way.

Musclerodz · #9 08-05-2013, 06:51 PM

if it was me yes. side windows and felts, all weatherstripping, decklid, etc. color change on a done car is a pain in the butt.

69MyWay · #10 08-06-2013, 05:48 AM

Any paint job out there is ONLY as good as the foundation below. If the shop is satisfied that the current paint has good adhesion and there are no other concerns, then a scuff and paint is appropriate. However, many shops will limit any guarantee as well as the paint supplier if it isn't their products from the metal out.

Sometimes putting fresh paint over old paint will bring out things (as the solvent reacts) that you didn't know were there. This can cause rings or shrinkage spots where the filler below and other paint/sealer/primer re-react when the fresh paint goes on.

Make sure you get the whole job written up ahead of time and don't pay any money until there is a contract for repair...and don't pay in full until it is done within a promised time window.

Body shop jail is a bad place to be - and we are usually at fault (the consumer) for putting ourselves in a position up front where we don't hold any cards in the negotiation to get the project done. There is a difference between "RUSHING" a shop to complete the work...and insisting that it be completed on-time. We have a tendency to allow shops to push off restoration work in favor of their production work because we want it done right - so we are okay with them "taking their time..." But, once your project goes to the back burner...or if they are giving you a better deal to "fit it in" between other jobs...well, kiss the car goodbye for a LONG time because it will move so far off the back burner that it will move off the stove.