LSA into a 69 Camaro

[GRob]

So I've been doing a lot of research into getting an LSA into a stock subframe 1969 Camaro.

Fuel, intercooler, ECU, etc., I think I've got a handle on and can post my findings here but the real question I have is the front accessory drive.

Here is the stock GM setup:



My understanding with the LSA is that there are three belts used on the LSA:
1) Dedicated S/C belt
2) Accesory belt
3) Dedicated A/C belt

The LS9 front drive system is completely different, uses a single 11 rib belt for all accessories and S/C and is double the price. Obviously they didn't have the space to run anything but a single belt in the ZR1.

So my question is, how much cutting of the sub frame is required to get this all to fit, and are there any alternatives out there where frame cutting is not required? There have been surprisingly few installs our there and I can't find anything well documented.

Any help anyone could provide would be great. We can turn this thread into a resource for people wanting to stuff LSA's into their cars.

[MaxHarvard]

Notching the frame isn't that bad, Mark has a few photos floating around of how much he had to cut out. Even with his DSE frame, it was what looked to be a 6x6" notch that he reinforced.

Of course, you could always not run AC

[MattG]

Give the guys at Ridetech a call...
http://www.ridetech.com/69camaro/ update 33.

They used a standard VA frontrunner (proven entity) and made spacers for the blower snout and a bolt on pulley for the front of the main balancer.

They said once they test it (assuming it works fine) they could make the spacers for anyone that needed them!

Saw the setup in person and it was very clean and looks like a great option!

[XLexusTech]

That looks awesome! I am sure Ride Tech will test this, but i wonder if that length addition would cause bearing wear? I sure looks like a great solution if thier is no problem with the bearings.

[GRob]

That Ride Twch setup looks sweet, I'm curious as well in regards to the snout stresses.

[rocketrod]

Concept One just released a low mount A/C solution for the LS9 in 67-69 Camaro with a DSE sub. I look at the kit dimension and it may even work with a stock sub w/o notching the sub.

http://www.c1pulleys.com/car-pulley-.../ls9-ac01.html

[64pontiac]

That modified vintage air setup looks nice, but I didnt see a power steering pump?

We did an LSA in a Speedtech subframe....had to cut it for the stock LSA AC compressor. The alternator just needed a minor notch. Keep in mind that the LS9 has a different blower intake/TB setup and if you try and use that accessory drive on the LSA you will run into a problem at the LSA throttle body

The AC looks to be the same or very similar bracket between the two (LSA/LS9) but you will want to swap out that for a Sanden anyways if you are not looking for headaches plumbing it.

Keep your eye on the Ridetech modifications....looks the cleanest so far!

[parsonsj]

Concept One has a complete FEAD for the LSA coming sometime this month. Give Kevin a call.

http://www.c1pulleys.com