Obamacare vs private insurance - Lateral-g Forums

**WSSix** · #1 07-05-2012, 07:11 AM

Here's an easy way to know the difference.

A guy goes to get a vasectomy. The nurse takes his vitals then tells him to undress and get on the exam table. He does. She then strips and has her way with him. For over an hour she pleases him in every way, runs thru the kama sutra twice, and throroughly exhausts him. Afterwards he says... "well that was great but what was that about?" She replies, " well research has shown that if a guy ejaculates before a vasectomy he tends to be more relaxed, the surgery goes better, now lets go back to the waiting room and wait for the doctor." Upon returning to the waiting room he see 5 men sitting on the floor all looking at a playboy and masturbating in a circle together. He asks the nurse, "whats your research say about them?!?". She replies, " oh no, that method isnt based on research. You have private insurance, they have obamacare."

Z10ROD · #2 07-05-2012, 07:25 AM

That alone should make everyone get heath insurance instead of paying the TAX / FINE

IMPALA MAN · #3 07-15-2012, 08:57 PM

This is from personal experience.
I will begin with a experience I had when I went to the pharmacy to get a prescription. First off, I have a $5,000 deductible policy. I go to the doctor only when needed (about once every five years). Long story short, I went to get my prescription and the lady handed it to me and said that will be $21.23. Then she said "Oh I forgot to ask. Do you have insurance?". Knowing I was no where near my deductible, I thought what do I have to loose. I replied "yes" and handed her my card. She ran it and said "Well that did change it a little. It now is only $4.23.". Ok so my bill went from $21.23 to $4.23!!!! That calculates out to about an 80percent discount. WHO HAS THAT KIND OF MARGIN? If you call anyone on this forum that sells parts NO ONE can afford to give you a 80 percent discount.
Here is why this happened. First off, either price I was charged, the insurance company was not going to pay any of it. Follow me now. My deductible is 5G. Once I pay 5G out of pocket, the insurance company has to start paying. The longer it takes my to pay 5G the less chance the insurance company will have to pay. Still don't get it. Ok try this, say I need this prescription filled once a month. Will I be closer to 5G $21.23 a month or $4.23 a month? Get it. The insurance company has a deal cut with the pharmacy to get a discount. An 80 percent discount. Once again WHO HAS THAT KIND OF MARGIN?

Now let's get to the bigger issue. When you go to the doctor or hospital and pay $100.00. This is an approximate estimate of what you are paying for:
$60.00 to cover the people that didn't pay their bill. (kind of like everyone paying more at Walmart because people shoplift)
$30.00 for the insurance the doctor / hospital has to have in case they get sued. Because they do every day! Just watch tv for an hour and see how many attorneys offeer their service.
$10.00 for your service.

The funny part is, you haven't even gotten your prescription yet.
Once again, they get sued also. Just watch tv.

So now the government is trying to make everyone pay for health care. Truthfully I think the intention is to make everyone pay their share. Look around and look at how many people are on disability. The taxpayer is paying for all of this. I'm not referring to your grandmother or grandfather that is 65 and paid their fair share their entire life. I'm not talking about the Army veteran that risked his life for our freedom. These people earned it and deserve it. I am talking about the guy down the street that gets a check every month, then you see him at the ball field playing ball, fishing, remodeling his house,etc.
I am talking about the teenager that get's pregnant and her and her boyfriend figure out that if they DO NOT get married, she will be classified as a single mother and can get free insurance and food stamps.
Welcome aboard taxpayer.
If everyone paid their fair share, didn't abuse the system and worked when they could, it would all work great. The government is in tough spot. In short how do you tell that many Americans, to do these things without causing major issues?

**GregWeld** · #4 07-15-2012, 09:30 PM

You must be talking about "entitlements" -- as in those that haven't earned diddly squat are entitled to live as if they have... "just because".

I have a niece --- 3 kids 3 different dads.... on every entitlement known to man. Can't work because she really only knows how to F... and can't work because she'd loose her entitlements if she did.

Here's my idea of entitlement... I'll pay an employer to hire you... and if you work and keep working - you'll get paid - the wage you should earn plus what you'd get on welfare. At least this way you'll get some training and might actually find yourself being useful like normal people do.

I don't mind paying taxes - I pay LOTS of taxes - what I do mind is my taxes going to foreign governments - of any kind - and my taxes going to pay people to sit not their duffs.. while my roads crumble and my bridges don't get built etc. Government should only be in the business of ROADS - EDUCATION - MILITARY - nothing else.

Rick D · #5 07-16-2012, 05:16 AM

Here I got a good one for you. About two years ago I'm at a shop working with the painter, now this is a union shop so he is making at the time 17.00 or so a book hour. He is bringing home about 1600 a week. Ok so we are talking and he tells me that he has to pay child support (good for him I think) then I said wait I thought you told me you and your WIFE brought your son to school today? He said well yah we are not married because if we we're then she wouldn't get a check from the state!!!

So then he shows me his new 22 inch wheels on his Expitidtion

,!

So then get this he ends up getting layed off from the shop and doesn't work for over a year and half! The shop ends up calling him back to work and I stop by to see how he's doing and if he needs any training to get him back up to speed on our products. So as I'm talking to him he tells me how he really didn't want to co e back to work because he was making almost the same money NOT working as he does working

And then at lunch he shows me his NEW Expitidtion with the NEW 24's on it.

I haven't been back to the shop any more as I'm not sure if I can stand to see if he has a new caddy or new Vett or something else!! Well now I need to go to work to help pay for his new stuff!!

**GregWeld** · #6 07-16-2012, 06:33 AM

Yeah buddy! And why? Because he's ENTITLED to live that way...

And when enough people get PO'd about working full time and just making ends meet... while others sit on their butts doing nothing and living just as well or better MAYBE they'll decided to pay more attention to who and what they vote for.

takid455 · #7 07-16-2012, 07:13 AM

The people just know the system. I had a brief involvement myself a few years back. My industry had a down fall and work was scarce. found some side jobs help with the state funds. According to the regs of the state, they don not encourage obtaining work!! your funds from the state will be considerable less than if you sat on your butt even with the most remedial reported income.
fast forward, found full time job just to get back into field. Looking back, after taxes and all the BS, sitting on butt pays about the same!

who's to blame? who's the smart guy?

Bucketlist2012 · #8 07-16-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

Yeah buddy! And why? Because he's ENTITLED to live that way...

And when enough people get PO'd about working full time and just making ends meet... while others sit on their butts doing nothing and living just as well or better MAYBE they'll decided to pay more attention to who and what they vote for.

Amen...

If you are poor, keep the present administration.

If you are Rich, sure you want it changed, but you will survive.

If you are Middle Class ? 4 more years and you may get crushed.

Personally, I have stopped worrying about it..I prepared MY economy and I just cannot worry what some people think or do.

But many who on the nipple, will vote for more milk..

**GregWeld** · #9 07-16-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by takid455

The people just know the system. I had a brief involvement myself a few years back. My industry had a down fall and work was scarce. found some side jobs help with the state funds. According to the regs of the state, they don not encourage obtaining work!! your funds from the state will be considerable less than if you sat on your butt even with the most remedial reported income.
fast forward, found full time job just to get back into field. Looking back, after taxes and all the BS, sitting on butt pays about the same!

who's to blame? who's the smart guy?

The SMART GUY is the guy paying the most taxes... because he's making the most money and living the best... and will retire nicely.

The "nipple man" will have a crappy life controlled by "others".

I'm happy that you see the difference.

Bucketlist2012 · #10 07-16-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld

The SMART GUY is the guy paying the most taxes... because he's making the most money and living the best... and will retire nicely.

The "nipple man" will have a crappy life controlled by "others".

I'm happy that you see the difference.

Well said..There is a glass ceiling on the nipple man..

Although the Illusion is they have Coach purses, Lexus, and don't work, they do not have the will power to make it the next level. They are fine in that comfort zone that certain government officials want them in.

The guy who is working and setting and achieving goals, will have the better life.