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Old 03-05-2006, 05:34 PM
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If you were re-doing a car, say a 69 Camaro with the intent of selling it when finished, what powerplant will be easier to sell with and value considerations?

Say a 69 Camaro with minitubs, Fikse, DSE 4 link, Wayne Due front end, T56, etc. A high dollar new car with excellent paint, body and full invoices and pics of the new sheetmetal etc. It already has a 700 rwhp ProCharged small block, but he's thinking of doing a n/a 540 big block (Dart iron block, aluminum heads) that would make say 750 hp on pump gas (crankshaft hp). He's thinking that the small block may scare people off even though it runs on pump gas also. It will cost him an additional $3K-$4K to swap over after selling the small block.

Besides the cost, would a naturally aspirated big block be an easier sell?

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I think alot of people like the big block because then they can say they have a "BIG BLOCK"
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Well, I personally would rather have the big block if I were selling it, not probably not be willing to do all the work. Let's face it, in general, men see BIG as virility, even if it is just a motor. A perfect example, as we speak I am doing a quote to build a engine package for a KILLER 4 X 4 Avalanche monster truck show vehicle, This thing will do nothing more then drive on and off the trailer, and possibly around the show grounds, yet the owner insist on having 632 inches of blown injected big block. When I explained we could save $10,000 on a short block doing a 454 which would look the same, he specifically WANTS to be able to tell admirers "It is A 632"

If it is only going to cost your friend a net of a few grand, which I think he is way off, then go for it. But I would do the math again if I were him. Will the car be worth more, yeah, will it me worth enough additional money to justify the work, I would not do it.
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I would definately go with the big block. Most people see Big Block = Horsepower. (Especially on pump gas) Don't get me wrong, small blocks are great, but a thumping BBC is a proven, simple, reliable, trouble-free operator. Hi-Tech small blocks scare many people.

I know this is not an apples to apples comparison - it is almost impossible to sell a good sized offshore powerboat with twin small blocks. Regardless of power. A big block means power with reliability.
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Big Block.

BB cars always outsell SB cars. Personally I like to see a small block vs. a big block in a camaro, but a BB in a larger car such as a chevelle.

I am not sure why this is, but thats how it works. I guess in your situation decided the pro vs. con factors. a BB might not make up the loss of the 3-4K.
I would prefer the pro-charged SB over a big block any day.
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Now the motor? I thought I was bad.
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The only reason I say BB is because it is being sold. I think alot of us on this board might choose a SB over a BB for weight or versatility, but as most of the previous posts have pointed out, when you are selling it to the general group of car people...I think a BB is apt to bring more money. The question is how much more, and is it worth it to make the change?

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Thanks guys. I think I'm close on the money as there's no exhaust change as he's buying a complete new exhaust anyway. This also assumes we can get what I think we can for his current setup.


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Vintage Air for their new Mid Mount LS front drive
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If this is a HIGH dollar show car (pro fairgrounds) I guess the big block is the way to go. If it is a true driver a Power Tour capable car I would go with a small block. As you guys say - is this a "poser" or the real deal? - if it's the real deal wouldn't it be a more pratical as well as more capable car with a small block? If it has to be exotic then how about a new ZO6 - Street and Performance is suppose to have everything to make it a simple swap - 505 net horse and 20+ highway miles per gallon should make it a true road warrior. The problem with all these real high dollar cars is you get the money if you find the right person. There is the right person for all these cars but timing is everything. I thought the guy that got Aluminator got a bargain. When you pay the BIG money for a car you have to like it pretty close to just the way it is. Chances are if you have that kind of money to start with you can either build or have your own built and pick everything out yourself. Than it's your car not some one elese's. Hey what do I know - I could be way off on this. Bottom line if it's a "looker" - Big Block.
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Well if you have the cash to spend then an LS7.. even more exclusive than a big block and you can run the 427 emblems on the fender

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