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Old 02-26-2011, 06:27 PM
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Not sure if this has been discussed, if so can you forward me to the thread. I am seeing my carburated 540 BB having issues with this Ethanol fuel. I am seeing less and less gas stations offering non-ethanol fuel and this is concerning. It would seem when my car gets warm 180 degrees, i am seeing i believe vapor lock-like my car runs out of fuel. Anyone else experiencing this? are their any additives out their to counter ethanol? Thanks in advance for your response. Greg
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:13 PM
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Stabel has an ethanol product on the market.

I've used Kemco octane boost and itappears to help, gotta love lead. 1 qt of the Kemco to 10 gal. bumps 92 oct to 100.

The fuel can also eat some seals/gaskets if it sits stagnant in the system. In carbed 4 stroke off road bikes and atv's it clogs the small orifices in pilot jets pretty fast if they sit a month or two. It's also been screwing up lawn and garden equipment for some time now.

Brilliant concept forced on us by clueless "leaders."

Here's a good article regarding the cost efficiency vs. energy:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fe...uel/index.html
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I have issues with it with my bike engines. Evo air cooled twin cams get a bit hotter with ethanol and can easily start to ping at lower rpms. I find sunoco to be particularly problematic, and will not put it in my 113".
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Stabel has an ethanol product on the market.

I've used Kemco octane boost and itappears to help, gotta love lead. 1 qt of the Kemco to 10 gal. bumps 92 oct to 100.

The fuel can also eat some seals/gaskets if it sits stagnant in the system. In carbed 4 stroke off road bikes and atv's it clogs the small orifices in pilot jets pretty fast if they sit a month or two. It's also been screwing up lawn and garden equipment for some time now.

Brilliant concept forced on us by clueless "leaders."

Here's a good article regarding the cost efficiency vs. energy:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fe...uel/index.html

Thanks, i will sure give this Sabel and Kemco a shot, thanks again
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I've had issues that APPEAR to possibly be ethanol related. I'm hoping to narrow the possibilities by sticking to non ethanol gas. Here's a site that may help anyone looking for stations that sell ethanol free gas. http://pure-gas.org/
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Not sure if this has been discussed, if so can you forward me to the thread. I am seeing my carburated 540 BB having issues with this Ethanol fuel. I am seeing less and less gas stations offering non-ethanol fuel and this is concerning. It would seem when my car gets warm 180 degrees, i am seeing i believe vapor lock-like my car runs out of fuel. Anyone else experiencing this? are their any additives out their to counter ethanol? Thanks in advance for your response. Greg
are you talking e85? not enough for your motor? we are on a winter mix of e85 here, and that puts it anywhere from e-50 to e70. not sure if that helps or not but good luck!
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I am seeing less and less gas stations offering non-ethanol fuel and this is concerning.
We can thank our government for another brilliant scheme.

The EPA mandated oxygenated (reformulated) gas in the early '90's and ethanol has been slowly replacing MTBE as the oxygenator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygenate

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The United States Environmental Protection Agency had authority to mandate that minimum proportions of oxygenates be added to automotive gasoline on regional and seasonal basis from 1992 until 2006 in an attempt to reduce air pollution, in particular ground-level ozone and smog. As a consequence, much gasoline sold in the United States is blended with up to 10% of an unspecified oxygenating agent. This product is known formally as oxygenated fuel and often (but not entirely correctly, as there are Federally-mandated reformulated gasolines without oxygenate) as reformulated gasoline. Groundwater contamination scares and the State of California's ban of the substance as a gasoline additive has allowed ethanol to displace methyl tert(iary)-butyl ether (MTBE) as the most popular fuel oxygenate in the United States.
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Not sure if this has been discussed, if so can you forward me to the thread. I am seeing my carburated 540 BB having issues with this Ethanol fuel. I am seeing less and less gas stations offering non-ethanol fuel and this is concerning. It would seem when my car gets warm 180 degrees, i am seeing i believe vapor lock-like my car runs out of fuel. Anyone else experiencing this? are their any additives out their to counter ethanol? Thanks in advance for your response. Greg
I noticed the same thing last summer with our '66 Chevelle that has a carburated 496. It would sometimes want to die after sitting at a stop light for a while. I had some vapor lock problems years ago, but thought I had it taken care of ( Insulated carb spacer, insulated fuel lines ). I'll have to try some additives once the weather warms up to see if this makes a difference.

Thanks for the info.
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