When does too much Racing influence hurt the Value of a Car - Lateral-g Forums

tyoneal · #1 03-25-2009, 04:04 PM

To All:

I had typed this for the most part in another part of the forum, so here it is in it's own title.

Pro-Touring (Penny) vs. Street Driven Race Car. Why so much difference in price?

You take a nice Pro-Touring car like "Penny", and to buy one you would spend say 100k.

You Take the same year Camaro that is closer to a Race Car, but it has an interior like a "Nice" Race Car, or even a car with a similar interior to "Penny".

Why would one be worth 100k, and the other be worth only a fraction of that?

I could be wrong, but it seems like a new Race Cars (NO Racing History) will have a much lessor value than a Pro Touring of the same year.

One is faster and lighter etc., the other has a more comfortable interior and a more subtle engine.

OR

If the Race Car was Equipped with more creature comforts would it have an equal value?

Any and all thoughts are welcome.

Thanks,

Ty

TreySmith · #2 03-25-2009, 04:35 PM

The attention to detail in a Pro Touring car is so much greater than your average race car.

Vegas69 · #3 03-25-2009, 05:42 PM

Here are some of the reasons:
High dollar paint jobs
Custom interior work
Gobs and gobs of money for the attention to detail
AC
Quality sound system
Body Mods
Extent of the restoration

mazspeed · #4 03-25-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69

Here are some of the reasons:
High dollar paint jobs
Custom interior work
Gobs and gobs of money for the attention to detail
AC
Quality sound system
Body Mods
Extent of the restoration

Exactly.
My pro-7 car cost $12k total, plus blood sweat and tears. My camaro cost much much more, and the pro-7 car would take my camaro in the autocross for certain.

Roadrage David · #5 03-26-2009, 01:49 AM

Race history can give your car more valiuew.
look at Bad Penny altho superb build it is out there doind what it iz made for.

Bj proving that, it ""wil"" carry that history with it and thats worth up the car.
If you would have lets say 100 k for a superb brand new Pro-touring car with 150 miles on it. And ore you could lets say buy Bad Penny witch is lesser build in luxury and shows it use. witch one would you buy????. I would go for the proven one.

Im doing the same thing with my car right now, it hase 1500 miles on it. its is brand new costed a fortune, yet i dont baby it and try to enter evends we did a time atackt event(testing) some drag raceing at the same event. all in preperation for the cannonball runn necst year( we are just not able to do it this year) belive me the car alredy hase its paint chips and stuff. and necst year it wil hase lost its show and shine beauty belive me . BUT that ads up the caracter of the car!! and shows its history..

At this momend it is still All Show and all go, but that will change into all go soon. will this devaluate the car ??? .
Only in the eye of the beholder , and ore for the show and shine guys, who say, and ore own a car that in TEORY can do it all Yet hase never done it. These Pro-touring G-Mashine cars are made to be driven and i mean driven hard.

**XcYZ** · #6 03-26-2009, 05:46 AM

A car built with race car influence and a car being built to race a specific class are two totally different things. It's apples to oranges.

Personally, if I wanted to build a race car, it wouldn't have fenders.

MarkM66 · #7 03-26-2009, 06:34 AM

Example of to much race car in a street car, and affecting the price.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...highlight=hell

Datsbad · #8 03-26-2009, 07:53 AM

I think you will find that Penny does not have Air conditiong , or heat . And no stereo system . I think this is the reason why the car weighs much less than our cars that are done and made to drive across country. Penny is about 500 lbs lighter than most .

I love Penny in everyway but It is mostly a "Very Nice " race car.

James OLC · #9 03-26-2009, 09:00 AM

As has been said a couple of times already, I think that the difference is primarily in the detail, finishing, and comfort. You could build a dedicated race car that is significantly lighter, faster, and simpler than most 'conventional' pro-touring "drivers" for a fraction of the cost - if that is what you want. The increased cost, and the derived increased value, comes from the fit, finish, comfort and usability. You can invest hundreds if not thousands of hours in detail work that is unwanted or undesired in a more race oriented build.

And... the market for a drivable pro-touring car - say FUeL (since G-Force built an awesome example there) is much larger than the market would be for a street legal race car. FUeL appeals to a much larger group of people since it is attractive, comfortable, and sorted out. This is especially true if there is limited access to racing venues available. A person can justify investing more in a car that they can drive any where, any time, without drama than they will as car that is uncomfortable (but tolerable) and often unusable.

Just my opinion.

**Stuart Adams** · #10 03-26-2009, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyoneal

To All:

I had typed this for the most part in another part of the forum, so here it is in it's own title.

Pro-Touring (Penny) vs. Street Driven Race Car. Why so much difference in price?

You take a nice Pro-Touring car like "Penny", and to buy one you would spend say 100k.

You Take the same year Camaro that is closer to a Race Car, but it has an interior like a "Nice" Race Car, or even a car with a similar interior to "Penny".

Why would one be worth 100k, and the other be worth only a fraction of that?

I could be wrong, but it seems like a new Race Cars (NO Racing History) will have a much lessor value than a Pro Touring of the same year.

One is faster and lighter etc., the other has a more comfortable interior and a more subtle engine.

OR

If the Race Car was Equipped with more creature comforts would it have an equal value?

Any and all thoughts are welcome.

Thanks,

Ty

I do believe the more you take a car out in public and pound the hell out of, reduces the value at resale, IMO.