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05-17-2008, 10:44 PM
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i was looking to get some advice on BOV options, i have a twin turbo SBC with a 700r4 trans, i currently have no BOV and if the turbos spool up and take my foot off the gas i get a chatter from the turbos. should i add a bov to help provide relef to the turbos or does it not really matter running a auto trans.
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05-17-2008, 10:48 PM
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I think you need a bov, really hard on the impellers without it. I'm running a single Tial 50mm on mine, not sure if that's enough yet, but it should be.
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05-17-2008, 11:10 PM
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Carb'd or EFI, you need them- they are mainly for your safety. The Tial 50mm is a nice piece (I'm using it as well).
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05-18-2008, 09:21 AM
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As mentioned they are a must have on any forced induction setup. Otherwise you will get compressor surge as you are in a best case scenario or break something on hard decel as a worst case deal.
I use a lot of Forge BOV's and recirculation valves depending on the application. They are billet aluminum and can be setup as a release to atmosphere or reciculate if used behind a MAF sensor. For install they can use either a 1-1.25" nipple to go on a hose, a weld on fitting or there are a couple flanges available.
I am trying to attach a couple pics. Prices are genrally $125-175 shipped in the lower 48. Hope this helps.
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05-18-2008, 01:23 PM
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Depends on the amount of boost, volume needing to dumped when the throttle closes, etc, you may be OK not running one... but it's always a good idea to have one. A BOV is pretty cheap insurance for the turbo, so there really isn't a good reason not to run one!
Argument on the flipside though: Buick GN's didn't have a BOV from the factory and the factory turbos could last years and years and well over 100K miles with zero problems. Then again they had an automatic tranny so you're not stacking up the air on every shift as you would with a manual tranny and their intercoolers and total piping volume are rather small so they didn't surge all that badly in stock form if you snapped your foot off the throttle when at WOT.
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05-19-2008, 07:39 AM
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Cheap insurance
your going to want one no matter how little boost you are running. The pressure build up when the throttle blades slam shut will break stuff.
If you dont want the sound, you can run a recirculation valve and dump it back into the intake piping behind the air filter.
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05-19-2008, 10:58 AM
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Thanks for the information, i have one more question i have a two into one piping off two seperate intercoolers, do i need one BOV on each, the pipes merge at the throttle body. i only have about an inch or so of combined space on the boot/clamp. i have attached a pic.
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05-19-2008, 04:56 PM
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i would run a smaller bov on each tube unless your running a lot of boost then i would say due twin tials or turbo smarts.
there is very little area for the preasure to pass from one tube to the other there so i would think it would be very hard on the Tbody unless you ran duals on each pipe
also the cheapo chinese tial copies work just fine and save you about 120 bucks per valve heh
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05-20-2008, 09:04 PM
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Thats is what i was thinking, i will go with the two BOV right before the merge at the throttle body. Thanks for your ideas.
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05-20-2008, 09:07 PM
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Thats is what i was thinking, i will go with the two BOV right before the merge at the throttle body. Thanks for your ideas.
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The other thing you could do is fab a small merge pipe before the TB and mount a single BOV... it'll be a lot cheaper.
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