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[Teetoe_Jones]

Guys/Gals-

When you see an amazing car at a show, track, or magazine what key pieces of info do you want to know about the car?
I'm trying to see what key elements people want to know about upon looking at the car for the first time- ie Engine type, displacement, year of car, model, trans type, color of paint, suspension options, builder, etc.

If you took at look at Stielow's Camaro X what would you ask about first?

I will revel why I'm looking for this info after we get a few responses.

Tyler

[Tony@AirRideTech]

This is gravey..... when you look at a car from a distance it either pulls you or it doesnt. There are four things that will grab your initial intention but it is the fouth that will either lure you to the car or it wont... kind of the deal breaker.
1. Is year model.... this is the most obvious.
2. Is the initial color of the car
3. Wheels and tires
4. Stance, the way it wears the wheels and tires.

Doubt me......? Stop and think about the modern cars we find sexy. Take a moment to think about the way the fenders, fender lips and tires seems moulded together. It is like they found the tire and wheel combo they liked and designed and built the car around it. Take your modern Mercedes, BMW's ect... look at the way the car was built for those tires. They simply fit.
Now when you are toodling around a show, you are looking at cars for their fit and finish. The wheel and tire fitment to the car is the ultimate tale tale sign in stating that the car is fit and finished and weather or not you want to take the effort to walk up to it. I guarantee ya... leave that stock ass fender gap around those tires and wheels and you will draw a 1/4 of the people to look at it ........ just say no to gap........

[deuce_454]

i would like to know what sets it appart from every other camaro, what are the mods, what are they good for, how are they made, how do they work.. specifics!!! is it put well together.. and not how smooth is the filler under the paint, and not how expensive are the wheels... that i can see at first glance..

if its just an off the shelf engine i couldnt care less, but if somone thought out a plan and did somthing custom for a season.. then im interested.. especially is its well engineered... and not all chrome and bolt on billet for looks sake.... (not to step on any toes here.. i think marquez design is awesome because it is a clever upgrade, honoring stock looks.... but summitracing billet everything does not a PT car make sorry)

[RaceMan]

How fast will it go??? and what size is the engine, then I guess wheels ,tires , rear and if they built it

[Teetoe_Jones]

Hmm. This is getting some good responses that are making me re-think how I relay the info to the casual on-looker.

Imagine the owner not being present with the car, and you can still get key bits of info- but nothing too detailed. Example would be if you wanted to know the wheel combo, make, model, size, backspacing, and tire sizing, but I could only fit the bare minimum:


HRE C21 18x8.5F/18x11R

vs

HRE Performance C21 wheels, 18x8.5" with 5.645" of Backspacing, Grey centers, Michelin Pilot Cup 245/35/YR/18

Would this be acceptable at a first glance? Most of you know exactly what the above text means.

Another example would be engine size, type and displacement:

GM 427 LS7

vs

2006 General Motors 427 Cubic Inch LS7

Imagine a small postcard with bare essentail info on it, what is your main crietria? Try to keep it under 10 items if you can.

Here is my list:

1. Year, Make, and model.
2. Engine type and displacement
3. Trans type
4. Wheels/tires
5. Builder/Build date
6. Paint color
7. Chassis

Tyler

[70gotboost]

Originally Posted by Teetoe_Jones

Guys/Gals-

When you see an amazing car at a show, track, or magazine what key pieces of info do you want to know about the car? ....
Tyler

#1 - I look for small rock chips on the front and undercarriage and bugs in the radiator... That's all I need to know!!

[XcYZ]

1. How fast is it.
2. Can I have a ride.
3. Can I drive it.

[Vegas69]

Tyler it was nice to meet you last week at the shop. We may still be doing business in the future. When I see a killer car I want to know who built it as well.

[Derek69SS]

1. Who built it? (bonus points if owner-built! )
2. How long to build
3. Quarter-mile ET (not an estimate, I want real numbers, and specified whether on slicks or in street trim)
4. Horsepower (estimate here is OK, as long as it's backed up by a good ET/MPH or logical reasoning)
5. Engine/Trans/gear combo
6. Fuel mileage (hey, that's important these days!)
7. (if PT) Has it been on a roadcourse/autocross?
7a. How did it do?
8. Is it driven often/daily, or trailered?
9. Is it comfortable?
10. How much invested? (ballpark figure OK... bonus points for lower figure. )

[XcYZ]

Ok, seriously, if a car catches my attention, I'm interested in the drivetrain; motor, displacement, trans, rear and gearing. I'm also interested in what it has for suspension setup. And finally, what mods have been done.