Metal protector?

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by Ravenworks

You chemically strip your projects? I've been looking around here locally for a stripping company (this Firebird has at least 3 layers of paint) with little luck. The one I knew of just absolutely destroyed some small pieces I had him strip last year so there's no way he's touching my car!

I have a guy from BARC ( Bakersfield Association for Retarded Citizens ) that cleans up around the shop 30 hours per week. I give him a tarp to lay on the ground and a couple gallons of paint stripper. It takes him a while, but I just try to cover his expenses. If he works for 5 hours I might bill for 1.5 hours. And he strips the paint by hand. There is a dipper down in the LA area but with the regulations in this state I doubt he will be around for much longer. Blasting is just too rough on the metal. If you go to the wrong dipper you will have more problems then it is worth.

Rodger

[RussMurco]

Thanks for the input, Rodger. After seeing your work in person I'd go with any recommendation you give!

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by Ravenworks

Thanks for the input, Rodger. After seeing your work in person I'd go with any recommendation you give!

The only recommendation from me I would trust is where to eat. We make mistakes all the time and we learn some thing new every single day.

But Thanks

[GregWeld]

Originally Posted by ironworks

The only recommendation from me I would trust is where to eat. We make mistakes all the time and we learn some thing new every single day.

But Thanks

Rosa's --- for dinner


Knotty Pine --- for breakfast


Champs BBQ --- for lunch



Then leave town and go someplace nice......

[GriffithMetal]

Originally Posted by Ravenworks

Did you really mean "with", or "without" either product?
Thanks for that tip, can you do sanding/welding/metalwork with these products on or do you wipe it off the area you are working with and recoat?

Yes even with the oil on the bare metal I have seen people touch a panel and their "fingerprints" are in rust on the panel the next day. Some people have the ability to make bare metal rust by looking at it. I will clean the panel if I am welding or sanding then re apply the product.

[Streetking]

Originally Posted by GriffithMetal

Yes even with the oil on the bare metal I have seen people touch a panel and their "fingerprints" are in rust on the panel the next day. Some people have the ability to make bare metal rust by looking at it. I will clean the panel if I am welding or sanding then re apply the product.

Eric, please stay off the this forum while my car is in your shop!

[RussMurco]

The local metal guru here said the closest dip-stripper is in Rockford, IL... Backyard stripping it is!!!

Originally Posted by Streetking

Eric, please stay off the this forum while my car is in your shop!

Thanks, Eric, I didn't mean to get you in trouble!!!!

[ironworks]

Originally Posted by GriffithMetal

Yes even with the oil on the bare metal I have seen people touch a panel and their "fingerprints" are in rust on the panel the next day. Some people have the ability to make bare metal rust by looking at it. I will clean the panel if I am welding or sanding then re apply the product.

There is something different about each persons oil content in their skin. I have an employee that makes stuff rust overnight and others that never rust month or years later.

As long as you sand them down regularly it really is not an issue. If you stay on top of it, its not a big deal.

[dontlifttoshift]

Originally Posted by Ravenworks

The local metal guru here said the closest dip-stripper is in Rockford, IL... Backyard stripping it is!!!

I didn't know there was anyone in Rockford that did it. We use a guy in Milwaukee that takes good care of us. http://www.rsi-metal-cleaning.com/main.html

I will never blast a car again, sand, media, walnut shells, soda, whatever. Even if they do a good job at getting it clean, which seems rare, I hate sweeping up the junk off the floor for months.

No one likes e-coat? We acid dip, do the metal, then dip again and ecoat. I really don't care if it rusts in between dips. The body shop loves not having to metal prep an entire car.

[GregWeld]

The only thing I've ever heard about acid dip was if they don't neutralize all the acid -- it can get between pinch welded seams and come out "later"...


But I think that's what I'd do for a full on strip.... acid and E-coat....


I only ever had walnut shells on my Corvette restorations.


I have a 50lb box of them sitting in the shed now -- never loaded 'em into the machine.... I'm always in too much of a hurry to get "whatever" off of "whatever".... LOL