Don't see may of these with a FOUR SPEED...

[Ummgawa]

As a matter of fact, I've never seen one.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2201790373.html


If you look close, you can see the clutch pedal and the brake pedal. Kinda cool.

[73GA]

A turd? That's a pretty sweeping put down. From the photos and condition it looks like a really nice car. Plus, if that is a real 4-speed car then it is ultra rare. I've owned and restored both a 65 GTO and a 70 GTO both with upgraded suspensions. I currently own a 73 Pontiac Grand Am and a 77 Safari wagon. Both of the cars, (yes, the wagon too), handle better in stock form than either of the restored GTO's. The Grand Am was stock when I bought it and quite honestly the original 400 4bbl with dual exhaust was surprisingly fast. I will bet you that 442 is very quick, and because of GM's new suspensions for 73 I would also bet it handles well and is a giggle to drive. And just a reminder that despite oppressive smog laws coming into effect, GM tried hard to keep performance alive within it's divisions, and for that matter so did Ford and Chrysler.

I dig that 442 and would be proud to own it but I've got enough projects right now. Can we please evolve a little here and throughout the entire hobby and get past dumping on whole groups of cars. This mental block that everything produced from 1960-1972 is golden and everything later than that arbitrary time frame is less of a car is dated and unevolved IMO.

[Ummgawa]

That thing actually had a detuned 455 rocket motor in it and a muncie 4 speed with a 3:42 gear. If you used a little smarts and gave that car a W-30 tune up and made a cam change, it would be a screamer. GM was basically into plugging holes in the giant 455 cubic inch air pump under the hood-IE detune the beast instead of figure out how to make it smog friendly. It has a factory full dual exhaust, so its no pig.

I own a 74 Z-28, big bumper, gotta hook the seat belts up before you crank it or you gotta open the hood and press the fluorescent "reset" button to refire the car. When I pulled the motor out to rebuild it I discovered a steel crank, windage tray, pink rods and factory forged pistons with a set of screw in studs with guide plates, 2:02/1:60 heads with a factory780 cfm quadrajet. It was an L-82 corvette motor and with a basic LT-1 tune it is a beast. M-21 Muncie and a 3:73 posi and I'll tell you, it's a runner. It's the last of the factory dual exhaust Z-28's and quite honestly, it's somewhat of a rare car in it's original factory configuration. I have departed from the "keep em like the general built em" crowd after I joined up here a whole lot of years ago, but this one i might just keep factory. A lot of folks whine about the big bumper cars, but it's apart of GM history.

I personally think the 442 is a cool car and super rare. I wouldn't kick the colonaide bodies, they are the next progression in the hobby.

[frankenstang]

That is one of my bucket list cars. Always LOVED that 1st year Colonnade(?) body style. Should make someone happy to have that car.

[SLO_Z28]

That Olds is pretty cool IMO. It would make a great pro touring project. Ive seen some cool builds on this platform. Would be a shame to cut up a factory gem like that though.

Originally Posted by Ummgawa

I own a 74 Z-28, big bumper, gotta hook the seat belts up before you crank it or you gotta open the hood and press the fluorescent "reset" button to refire the car. When I pulled the motor out to rebuild it I discovered a steel crank, windage tray, pink rods and factory forged pistons with a set of screw in studs with guide plates, 2:02/1:60 heads with a factory780 cfm quadrajet. It was an L-82 corvette motor and with a basic LT-1 tune it is a beast. M-21 Muncie and a 3:73 posi and I'll tell you, it's a runner. It's the last of the factory dual exhaust Z-28's and quite honestly, it's somewhat of a rare car in it's original factory configuration. I have departed from the "keep em like the general built em" crowd after I joined up here a whole lot of years ago, but this one i might just keep factory. A lot of folks whine about the big bumper cars, but it's apart of GM history.

I know what you're talking about as I own a 74 Z too. I had that switch fail on me in a wendys parking lot, and I was able to talk 1 block away and get it in stock from the parts store/machine shop I later worked for. Im still too this day flabbergasted that he had one. I disabled it later that day, but its still on my fender. The factory engine is the same as the 73Z28 and corvette, and the last of the pre smog engines. heres my car:

[T_Raven]

That would be a sweet ride but price is way high.

[Ummgawa]

SLO- very cool. You should keep it as close to original as possible, not mini tubbing, etc. These are rare cars regardless if the big bumper is a turn off or not to others. I'm OK with it, it's history and progression. Wouldn't be here if we hadn't gone there. I have a set of factory GM slats for the back window, not manufactured by GM but authorized by them, came with my car when I bought it. Are you looking for any parts?



I know what you're talking about as I own a 74 Z too. I had that switch fail on me in a wendys parking lot, and I was able to talk 1 block away and get it in stock from the parts store/machine shop I later worked for. Im still too this day flabbergasted that he had one. I disabled it later that day, but its still on my fender. The factory engine is the same as the 73Z28 and corvette, and the last of the pre smog engines. heres my car:

[srh3trinity]

That is a nice looking 74 Camaro. As for the Olds, I am liking these mid year cars more and more.

[Ummgawa]

Stephen

The guy lives in B'ham. I talked to him and he's the third or fourth owner. You ought to go by and see the car, he can't be far from you.