My 67 Camaro at Sled Alley

[clill]

I'm not big on stripes either, but love what they did.

Also, do you happen to know the process they used to get the trim to this state of finish? I see a scuff pad and some sanding disks...

Daniel

Alot of picking and filing. Matt has no fingerttips left.

[DWC]

Thanks for the response.

I was more referring to the matte, brushed, look they achieved. I'd love to replicate that as the finished product on my trim.

81330

Daniel

[Ketzer]

Alot of picking and filing. Matt has no fingerttips left.

It paid off, they never looked that slick when they were brand new!


Jeff-

[clill]

Lots of ARP bolts. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240416/1b3f907fca02579a3f12893efb11c230.jpg


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[clill]

Dry sump ready.

[CHJNCSU]

Was that DS tank purchased or built from scratch? If purchased would you please share the vendor? Thank you!

[Ns RS]

Looks like C6 z06 dry sump tank with matt custom lower lank expansion and bracket work etc - here’s something similar

https://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L300046006.html

[EVIL SS]

Dry sump ready.

Was something modified inside the tank? It looks great painted!

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[jarhead]

WOW!

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[camcojb]

So are you shipping it to me first to break it in? :thankyou::peepwall::buttkick::lol:

[fleet]

So are you shipping it to me first to break it in? :thankyou::peepwall::buttkick::lol:

The “break” part stood out to me.

:wow:

:P

[camcojb]

The “break” part stood out to me.

:wow:

:P

He is fully capable of breaking things also. Have you ever ridden with him? :lol:

[clill]

Ac fittings Zinc plated.

[clill]

Even the trans is getting ARP bolts.

[clill]

Back at Sled Alley

[camcojb]

:king:

[Musclerodz]

That's a great idea for a stripe. I have not seen that before.

Ben rendered that stripe for me nearly 10 years ago.

[clill]

Other than the panels they are on I would say totally different.

[Musclerodz]

Other than the panels they are on I would say totally different.

They do look different with the outline stripe and body style for sure. I love your body color choice too.

[Ns RS]

You’re gonna have to grow some facial hair to tie the whole build together brother….

[camcojb]

You’re gonna have to grow some facial hair to tie the whole build together brother….

:lol:

[fleet]

https://i.postimg.cc/X79KHgB6/IMG-8781.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

:P

[Ns RS]

The Earl Scheib of mustaches…

[clill]

Matt is determined to add weight to the car wherever possible

[camcojb]

Well, this one is going to be a great cruiser, probably the quietest one you've had.

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[srode1]

What steering column is that?

[clill]

Steering column is top secret....aka....I don't know.

[clill]

……and yes we use ARP bolts about wherever possible. Of all aftermarket stuff that has come out over the years ARP has to be one of the best things to have come out.

[camcojb]

……and yes we use ARP bolts about wherever possible. Of all aftermarket stuff that has come out over the years ARP has to be one of the best things to have come out.

:gitrdun:

[clill]

Gaps and ARP.

[camcojb]

Getting tired of straightening up your pics. :lol: Tell Matt to take the pics in landscape not portrait mode with his damned Apple product. Doesn't happen with Androids... :underchair:

[clill]

I’ll tell him after you finish your pile.

[camcojb]

I’ll tell him after you finish your pile.

Speaking of piles...

[fleet]

I’ll tell him after you finish your pile.



https://i.postimg.cc/PJv0f8v1/IMG-9132.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

:D

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[fleet]

Quite the build!

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Che70velle]

Quite the build!

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Sure is!

[Aschle]

I am interested in getting some of those washers that you have in the door hinges !!! I've been using the standard stainless washers that come with the ARP bolts, but what you have take the detailing to a whole new level. Do you mind sharing the source of those ?

Thanks,

Jason

[clill]

Matt says Dutchboys has them made and he thinks they sell them now.

[Aschle]

Matt says Dutchboys has them made and he thinks they sell them now.

Thank you for the info. I will have to give them a shout !!!

[dhutton]

I am interested in getting some of those washers that you have in the door hinges !!! I've been using the standard stainless washers that come with the ARP bolts, but what you have take the detailing to a whole new level. Do you mind sharing the source of those ?

Thanks,

Jason

Here’s another option.
https://shop.hammerfab.com/products/crater-maker-washers

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[dmc69]

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This is soooo good! Amazingly planned and executed!

[clill]

I'm lucky to be able to hire talent like this as I would have run out of talent long ago trying to do work like what they are doing.

[fleet]

I'm lucky to be able to hire talent like this as I would have run out of talent long ago trying to do work like what they are doing.

Charlie, thanks for continuing to share Sled Alley’s high, high quality work on your ‘67 with us.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[camcojb]

I am interested in getting some of those washers that you have in the door hinges !!! I've been using the standard stainless washers that come with the ARP bolts, but what you have take the detailing to a whole new level. Do you mind sharing the source of those ?

Thanks,

Jason

https://www.extsw.com/collections/washers-for-arp-bolts-recessed-and-beveled-316-stainless

[Sales@Dutchboys]

https://www.extsw.com/collections/washers-for-arp-bolts-recessed-and-beveled-316-stainless

Actually Jody, those washers are something we manufacture at Dutchboys Hotrods. While the ones you posted above are very similar ours have a small paint relief on the backside so during tightening they will not damage the surrounding area paint.

[Sheck44]

Quite the build!

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I agree Skip ... I'll be watching this one closely
Cheers
Steve

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[jeff71]

No ARP harmonic balancer bolt……..:lolhit:

[camcojb]

No ARP harmonic balancer bolt……..:lolhit:

Yeah, did Bob cut you off??!! :lol:

[Frankenstine]

Wow Camaro is turning out great fellas. Are those window regulators in the above pictures? If so they look brand new or have they been restored. Is there a hardware kit available for them that you know of ??? Not sure I bagged and tagged mine when they were taken out

[thedugan]

Wow Camaro is turning out great fellas. Are those window regulators in the above pictures? If so they look brand new or have they been restored. Is there a hardware kit available for them that you know of ??? Not sure I bagged and tagged mine when they were taken out

I would assume these are all bead-blasted originals from the car, seeing that it was a complete car to start. Good question on a full kit. I would talk to any of the suppliers and see if they can put together an order for you with all of the hardware that you need.
Matts Classic Bowtie or Camaro Central might have them
https://www.camarocentral.com/1967_1969_Door_Window_Regulator_Mounting_Set_p/dwn-44b.htm

[clill]

Those are orig. parts that Matt had replated.

[syborg tt]

I’m fascinated by the brake lines on this car. Next winter, I’m going to hire a guy that comes out to the house that will do the brake lines in my car.


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[syborg tt]

Crazy mad respect for the person that did that wiring.

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[clill]

Wiring messes.

[Black68camaro]

Looks great!! Any chance someone is making/selling those brackets?

Any luck on getting a set of these brackets made?

[clill]

?????

[GordonC]

Any update on the DSE brackets or this custom made one? This bracket seems easy to make if dimensions were given...thanks

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[camcojb]

Looks great Charley.

[syborg tt]

Holy ****, what an incredible update !!!

mj

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[thedugan]

Amazing work and car.

Why does Matt chop the bottom of the rad support off? To center the radiator? Or for a floating mount?

[syborg tt]

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Yep, That is really pretty !!!

[clill]

Amazing work and car.

Why does Matt chop the bottom of the rad support off? To center the radiator? Or for a floating mount?

The stack up of radiator, innercooler and condenser are so big is has to come out to fit and give space for induction tube. Plus cutting the sides and bottom off core support give more area for air to pass through for better cooling

[clill]

Progress

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[clill]

Zzzzzz

[jeff71]

That thing isn’t running yet……?!? Slacker:gitrdun:

[thedugan]

Learn something new every day. ARP doesn't make an oil pan drain plug. They do make everything else..

[Steve68]

What's the color?? I do like it,

Is there that much noise through the wiring that Matt is twisting the wires together or is it done for space and esthetics??

As all ways beautiful craftsmanship, top notch....

[Spiffav8]

Learn something new every day. ARP doesn't make an oil pan drain plug. They do make everything else..

:lol:

[dhutton]

What's the color?? I do like it,

Is there that much noise through the wiring that Matt is twisting the wires together or is it done for space and esthetics??

As all ways beautiful craftsmanship, top notch....

Those are the VSS sensor wires and they come as a twisted pair in the AAW Classic Update harness. Improves noise immunity.

[Steve68]

Those are the VSS sensor wires and they come as a twisted pair in the AAW Classic Update harness. Improves noise immunity.

Noise Immunity, never heard it called that, we always did it to reduce signal noise in harness's or on circuit cards, didn't know AAW was doing it in there harness's

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[camcojb]

That car would look so good in my garage. :dance:

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[syborg tt]

Gosh Darn it !!

This car is incredible and I need to make take a road trip to Sled Alley.

[Sonar Chief]

Boy she looks great ... attention to detail can't be compared to anyone else!
Since I work in a classic restoration shop now I can appreciate the care need to put this back together. I am assembling a 1979 F150 with perfect paint and body and I end up with nerves on fire and a stomach ache by the end of the day.

[fleet]

Have no idea how popular build books are, but this work should be seen and admired far and wide imho.

[Sonar Chief]

These guys working on your car are artists and if you could pass on one of my OCD details they may just agree with me.
Zip ties are just not that pleasing to look at ... they are just plastic bread ties, right? I always turn the buckle away from the viewer whether anyone is really looking or not ... just FYI.

[Ricochet]

Incredible build...... Every aspect is perfection!

[ZMAN1969]

Charley, thats going to be one slick pickle!

[clill]

progress

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[fleet]

Thanks Charlie…showin’ how it’s done!

:wow:

[SBDave]

wow! Those are some amazing details!!

[Steve68]

Still want to know the color on it, I'm a fan,

Cars is on another level detail wise,

[clill]

I don't remember if it was a stock color or not. I know we did some spray outs. Sent a message to Dutchboys....

[clill]

Engine compartment looks killer.

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[214Chevy]

Just flat out beautiful!!:trophy-1302:

[CarlC]

The removeable panel in the passenger wheelwell is fantastic.

[ZMAN1969]

Dammitt Charley!

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[clill]

Back glass in.

[ScotI]

Slick. Slick. Slick.... I love the clean subtle look & that color is easy on the eyes for sure.

[EVIL SS]

This is a beautiful build!! Do you know what air filter they picked? Are you going to keep the LT5 stock?

thanks,
Dave

[clill]

K&N filter and of course it will remain stock :-)

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[clill]

11111

[ScotI]

Sweet & snug....
What size is shown in the images above?

[clill]

325x19

[srode1]

Looks great! In the top of the fuel tank picture, I didn't see a vent line or did I miss it?

[clill]

Most likely in the filler neck.

[NAPA 68]

Damn.....that's a fine piece of work

[Firebird68corona]

progress


Is the radiator and supporting coolers powder coated ?


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[Firebird68corona]

Is the radiator and supporting coolers along with the fuel tank powder coated ?


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[clill]

Fuel tank is powercoated. Radiator is painted. Tank straps have heat shrink tubing. Not sure I would powercoat any coolers.

[clill]

Zzzzzzzz

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[camcojb]

I know you didn't like it, but that liner looks great in the trunk. Leaning towards doing the same in mine.

[clill]

I know I know I know...It's starting to grow on me.

[OLDFLM]

Are those "Stand Tanks" or Vapor tanks in the left side of the trunk?

Big one for fuel and the small one for the diff?

[clill]

yeppers.

[clill]

brake cable

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[clill]

Closer

[clill]

Backup camera works

[clill]

Park brake cables in.

[Ketzer]

Front turn signals?

[clill]

In the grill silly !

[camcojb]

The car is stunning. :thumbsup:

[EVIL SS]

Park brake cables in.

What rear parking brake setup did you use?? Looks great!

[clill]

Oe gen 5 Camaro mechanism in the consul. Modified lokar cable set to package tighter inside the car. C6 park brake using the floater setup on the 8.8

[Spiffav8]

brake cable

And here I thought I used a lot of 12pt stainless on my build. :lol:

[83hurstguy]

This has been one of my favorite builds to watch. Early in the thread I saw the mockup of the Moser 8.8 housing, but it looks like there's a 9 inch housing under the car now... maybe I missed it in here somewhere, do you mind sharing what drove the decision to go back to the 9 inch?

[clill]

The 9” is just in there as a roller.

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[syborg tt]

Very nice and thank you for sharing

[WSSix]

I'm currently building the exhaust for my C10 using Flow FX mufflers, too. I had no idea they existed. I found them on Amazon randomly. Hope they sound good for both of us.

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[camcojb]

When do you expect it to be home?

[clill]

This year.

[camcojb]

Sounds like mine lol. :D

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[OLDFLM]

Love how tightly that's tucked up! LOVE the car Charlie!

[syborg tt]

Looks incredible and I am looking forward to hearing the exhaust.

[Ns RS]

It’s almost as nice as the Hobbs Camaro….

[F'in mine]

There's something about really nice tig welding on exhaust that resonates with me.
What's the reasoning behind the dual mufflers.........taming sound, drone?

[Mad_Monte_Carlo]

What is the reasoning for the mufflers right after the headers. I'm genuinely curious.

[Steve68]

Curious minds want to know??

Since I've lost mine, I still want to know,

[OLDFLM]

Pretty sure the larger resonators at the front are just to add volume and a bit of absorption to reduce (harsh/high frequencies) noise. And placing/packaging them up front allows for more volume (eg. larger resonators).

I would think that placing larger resonators near the headers, before the X-pipe and mufflers, would reduce drone and potentially offer a small performance increase by slightly improving exhaust gas flow.

Some other shops place small resonators at the rear of the system (for exhaust note tuning) but my guess is that Charlie is just after a mellow and refined exhaust tone.

[andrewb70]

Can we get more details about the round mufflers at the front and the mufflers at the rear?

Andrew

[camcojb]

FLOWMASTER FLOWFX SERIES MUFFLERS
FlowFX mufflers feature a straight-through stainless steel perforated core surrounded with high temperature sound absorption material, delivering a deep mellow tone. The internal flow design is reversible, so the muffler can be installed in either direction to best suit the application and offsets needed. Fully MIG-welded Bright 409 Stainless Steel construction with the FlowFX logo embossed on the both sides of the case. Available in oval and round configurations.



Key Features

Fully Mig-welded for maximum durability
Bright 409S stainless steel construction
Reversible “straight-through” design
Compact case fits in tight spaces
Deep mellow performance tone

https://www.flowmastermufflers.com/products/exhaust/mufflers/flowfx_mufflers/

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[NAPA 68]

Pure porn:goggles:

[fleet]

Charley, you and Sled are…

Making America Envious Again!

:thankyou:

[Ketzer]

These guys have perfected that OEM-plus mega detail look!!

[jmac]

Absolutely stunning. What a flawless build, I could stare at these photos for hours.
If you have them, could you provide more photos of the extra support bar you added for the panhard bar? Such as how it mounts to the body?
As always, thanks for sharing Charlie!!

[Sieg]

Beautiful Charlie! :thumbsup:

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[EVIL SS]

Do you guys use a pre-made wire harness like American Autowire and modify it or do you wire the car from scratch?

[clill]

Universal Painless harness.

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[clill]

Aaron Oberle made me a cool gas cap.

[clill]

Key.

[Ns RS]

Key.

Just need one of these 2-3times larger so you see/hear if it falls out of your fanny pack…

[camcojb]

Just need one of these 2-3times larger so you see/hear if it falls out of your fanny pack…

:lol:

[Sheck44]

Just need one of these 2-3times larger so you see/hear if it falls out of your fanny pack…


LOL ... I was thinking the same !!
Cheers
Steve

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[MODO Innovations]

Charlie, I have a couple options for your pedals.

1. A brake pedal cover that matches the DBW pedal.
1967-81 Auto Brake Pedal (https://modoinnovations.com/collections/specialty-pedal-covers/products/gm-match-1967-81-camaro-firebird-1968-74-nova-automatic-pedal-covers)

2. An adapter that fits the DBW that allows you to use a factory gas pedal.
GPA (https://modoinnovations.com/collections/ls-lt-swap-parts/products/gpa)

[camcojb]

We used Modo covers on Steves car, matches great (this is a crappy pic lol).

[MODO Innovations]

I am not a photographer by any means. I had trouble in the beginning with the photos looking not black or almost reflective when I was taking the product photos. I ended up not using the flash and just used perimeter lighting.

[camcojb]

I am not a photographer by any means. I had trouble in the beginning with the photos looking not black or almost reflective when I was taking the product photos. I ended up not using the flash and just used perimeter lighting.

A friend of mine took that pic, I'm not taking blame. :lol: The pedal covers look great in real life.

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[WSSix]

Charlie, or anyone really, how did Sled Alley get that finish on the exhaust pipes and mufflers? Is it from using the red scotch brite pad I see on the bench or another method? I'd really like to finish the exhaust on my truck in the same manner. Thank you

[ScotI]

Charlie, or anyone really, how did Sled Alley get that finish on the exhaust pipes and mufflers? Is it from using the red scotch brite pad I see on the bench or another method? I'd really like to finish the exhaust on my truck in the same manner. Thank you

I would say yes. That's how it's done on the SS piping in the food manufacturing facility I work at & is how I've done the SS exhaust systems I've built. The different grades of the Scotch Brite pads offer varying degrees of polish. Red & Green is coarser. Grey & White is finer.

[clill]

I plan on having the Camaro at our show in November in Chicago if anyone is bored. www.mcacn.com

[jeff71]

Nice! Think you’ll have it in Reno this year?

[clill]

Nope

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[thedugan]

That dash is a thing of beauty. Kick panels are so sleek. Just amazing work. Matt is so stinking talented.

[camcojb]

You gonna keep this one?

[clill]

After I paint it white...

[camcojb]

After I paint it white...

:G-Dub::shakehead::rolleyes::hairpullout::lolhit:

[Sheck44]

You gonna keep this one?

Jody, that's a silly question LOL ... you know we NEVER keep these.
NEXT !!

BTW ... the details on this car are absolutely superb.

Cheers
Steve

[Ns RS]

Looks great - hope you don’t ruin it by picking some run of the mill snowflake bronzed wheel - the teddy bear wheel set would really tie the whole build together beautifully

[clill]

Backup camera

[camcojb]

So what wheels and tires you running? :underchair::popcorn2:

[will69camaro]

Backup camera

Nice looking backup camera, what brand/model is that?

Beautiful looking work!

[clill]

Camera is a option for the Alpine Stereo.

[clill]

So what wheels and tires you running? :underchair::popcorn2:

I'm thinkin 14" Rally's painted white.

[camcojb]

I'm thinkin 14" Rally's painted white.

:bunny:

[Ketzer]

Definitely Crager S/S, with the 15x10 on the rear...and knock off center caps. Gotta have the knock offs.



Jeff-

[thedugan]

and stock brakes to clear them

[jeff71]

Any updates Charlie?

[clill]

The slow parts... Messing with seats, cleaning up diff housing after welding on ends. Sent off for powdercoating.

[clill]

Housing back from powdercoater

[camcojb]

Should be heading home in 30 days or so?

[jeff71]

Is that your first 8.8 you guys have done? Are they whisper quite?

[syborg tt]

Yep, I am going to be the one to say it.

You're rear end looks great !!

Housing back from powdercoater

[camcojb]

Yep, I am going to be the one to say it.

You're rear end looks great !!

:lol:

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[jeff71]

Nice! Looking like she’s almost ready for the maiden voyage?

[camcojb]

Looks great Charley. :thumbsup:

[clill]

Waiting on seats.

[dmc69]

Which seats are you using?

[camcojb]

Which seats are you using?

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showpost.php?p=721326&postcount=236

[clill]

Seats are 2016 BMW M4 convert.

[Steve68]

I really like what they did to the center of the dash, but I also really like the center OEM metal vent on the AC cars from 67/68,

Since my dash is all painted I'm sticking with the original equipment but will try to do something with the radio area, or not, I don't listen to the radio, just XM, but I'm far from that point, so I'll go back to the shop now,

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[OLDFLM]

What mufflers are you using Charlie?

The cats look great btw!

[ADY]

Charley, any chance you'll show the car off at the Good Guys November Get Together in Pleasanton? Would love to see yet another one of your masterpieces in person.
-Adam

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Love the wheel and paint combination, Charley!

[srode1]

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Interior blend of modern with stock looks great. I noticed prior to paint no holes for electric to the doors, and it looks like manual crank up windows here unless the cranks actuate power windows. Did you go electric or stock for the windows?

[clill]

Just stock windows.

[clill]

Charley, any chance you'll show the car off at the Good Guys November Get Together in Pleasanton? Would love to see yet another one of your masterpieces in person.
-Adam
No. It won't be out West until after MCACN in late November.

[WSSix]

What mufflers are you using Charlie?

The cats look great btw!

Flowmaster FlowFX. We talked about it a couple pages back. I believe he gives more details there, too.

I have these same mufflers on my C10 which currently has a stock 305. Just finished the piping. Need to make a few hangers before I can fire it up to hear how it sounds. Really hoping for a Magnaflow style sound.

[clill]

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[Cramer4918]

It’s coming together Beautifully! Magnificent blend of Classic and Modern in the interior!

I have the round FlowFX mufflers on my Biscayne. They definitely have some attitude. I’m interested to hear what the oval muffler sound like.

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[214Chevy]

Looking good!!

[Sheck44]

NICE steering wheel, (obviously I'm a bit biased) but wouldn't expect anything less for this build

Cheers
Steve

[1in1969]

Looks very nice. Would you take some detail pictures of the windlace? It looks like your interior guy made it.
Thanks

[clill]

Windlace is just repo with time spent to make it better

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[OLDFLM]

That steering wheel and the seats look amazing!!

Are they changing the white stitching on the center console lid and hopefully painting the tan vent in the seats black??

[jeff71]

All the fancy…..:drool:

[clill]

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[camcojb]

:thumbsup: