My 67 Camaro at Sled Alley

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99% of people looking at it won't even notice.

[fleet]

Wow!:waveflag:

[WSSix]

I don't even know what I'm looking at aside from it being a part for a 69 Camaro. Someone mind enlightening me?

The quality of the work is fantastic as always.

[F'in mine]

Hvac & radio bezel?

[clill]

Yes.

[214Chevy]

Very nice...!!

[WSSix]

Thanks! I was thinking a custom RS head light cover or the center console gauges.

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Do they remove the firewall behind the new firewall plate or do they weld over the old/existing one?

thanks,
Dave

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Remove the old firewall section, butt weld new piece in and respot weld across the top and side just like factory was

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Can somebody smarter than me rotate the pic ?

[ScotI]

Rotated....

[camcojb]

He is talented. :thumbsup:

[Goosesdad]

Wow!! Next level!

[camcojb]

Can somebody smarter than me rotate the pic ?

Why are my pics sideways? (https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59376)

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[syborg tt]

Wow does that look great

[214Chevy]

Wow does that look great

It sure does...superb!!

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[Goosesdad]

Form and execution!! Well done sir

[camcojb]

Sled Alley's work is so impressive.

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[camcojb]

Picked a color?

[colorado80439]

Beautiful, where's the ash tray?

[clill]

Picked a color?


Pink ?


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Pink ?


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Cool!!

[WSSix]

Porsche's Rubystone is a gorgeous color. Just saying.

[214Chevy]

Porsche's Rubystone is a gorgeous color. Just saying.

You really think so?!

[clill]

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[WSSix]

You really think so?!

Oh, yes. I'm serious. It's fantastic. Now, would it look good on a 67 Camaro? I'm not sure. No doubt there's a painter out there that could make it look good.

[214Chevy]

Oh, yes. I'm serious. It's fantastic. Now, would it look good on a 67 Camaro? I'm not sure. No doubt there's a painter out there that could make it look good.

Maybe so...but, the only thing about colors like this are they're faddish and after spending several thousands on a paint job, you'll be tired of looking at it in a few years. Then again, who wants to repaint a car for those reasons.

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[camcojb]

Beautiful work that will never be seen...

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[Goosesdad]

So awesome!!!

[214Chevy]

Top Level!!

[SlowProgress]

I have been away from the forum for a couple years, just got sidetracked on my project. This is a gorgeous motivator! Thanks for keeping the posts coming.

[jarhead]

That metal work is so inspirational:king:

[clill]

And for Matt's next trick.

[Jimbo1367]

Beautiful work that will never be seen...

I totally agree. Top notch fab work.

[syborg tt]

I would love to stop by this shop the next time I am out that way.

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Hooker Blackheart Headers fit well.

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[clill]

Vintage Air Gen5 Magnum fits.

[EVIL SS]

Vintage Air Gen5 Magnum fits.

Looks great!! Any chance someone is making/selling those brackets?

[130fe]

Looks great!! Any chance someone is making/selling those brackets?

Yeah I just got my Gen V also, I bought the super version of it. Would love a set of those brackets also! Good to see it still fits with a bulkhead.

[clill]

If he makes more brackets he won't be working on my car :-)

[fleet]

Whoa…top notch metal work…smoother than a uniparty politician!

:wow:

[EVIL SS]

If he makes more brackets he won't be working on my car :-)

Why does this post have to be all about you ???? :):):) I need a bracket!!

[clill]

I need a car !

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Power steering reservoir fabbed and mounted.

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And.....We still need to find a place to put more crap.......How bout here ?

[clill]

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[WSSix]

Looking great, Charlie! Thanks for updating us.

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[srode1]

Nice location,

Interested in seeing where the wires are going to be routed then of course where the fuse box is going.

[syborg tt]

Looking forward to seeing how they close out the cowl to prevent it from getting saturated it when it rains.

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[fleet]

This clip wormed its way into my YT feed…

:P


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[camcojb]

This clip wormed its way into my YT feed…

:P


_9fLUyXp8eU

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Huge bog. Trying different vacuum secondary springs.

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[CHJNCSU]

Beautiful work. I can't wait to see the finished car!

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[Goosesdad]

Nicely done sir!

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[camcojb]

Very impressive work.

[syborg tt]

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[ScotI]

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Exactly.

Crisp, mirror image runs having bends w/laser straight & square routing to & from makes for a super clean install. Top tier for sure.

[214Chevy]

Top notch!!

[EVIL SS]

What ABS system are you using?

[BonzoHansen]

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the line work is very impressive.

[Stielow]

What ABS system are you using?


It is a Delphi C6 Corvette 2006-2008 with a one off race calibration. It will work stock if you put in all the sensors but is not optimized for hi-Mu brake pads.

A more user friendly (not cheaper) is the Bosch system.

Mark


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[Steve68]

What line clamps are they using?

Nice and clean,

[Stielow]

What line clamps are they using?

Nice and clean,


Custom modified Kugel clamps off memory. I’ll ask Matt for a photo.

Basically cut the hump off one and weld it on the other for a double line clamp.

Mark


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[Steve68]

ahh more custom trick parts, cool!

[Steve68]

Jackass is with my idiot friend Jason in Iowa. Along with Thrasher,Red Devil,Mayhem and the green pile.

Red Devil was one of my favorite, Mark started building this right when I initially started redoing my 68'

but I was a big fan of "X" and its simplicity, white, black, minimal chrome, where's that one now???


For some reason I had a duplicate post and when I deleted it I got to the 1st page and then found a list of where the cars are,

[clill]

Camaro X is in Florida.

[srode1]

It is a Delphi C6 Corvette 2006-2008 with a one off race calibration. It will work stock if you put in all the sensors but is not optimized for hi-Mu brake pads

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[Steve68]

Not in my garage! lol

maybe I'll see one day,

Thanks Charlie,

[Stielow]

can you say more about how the race calibration and how it's loaded / dialed in?


It was developed for a “no ice mode” SCCA race cal. It is not commercially available. I have a very few flashed controllers that I use on my builds. I think I have 2 left.

There is a BMW Conti solution I have heard of. I have never tried it but I have seen people run it.

ABS is part of the issue. Good wheel speed sensors, pluming and wiring is the rest. ABS is not a cheap date and a lot of effort.

Mark


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[WSSix]

I love this build. The details are amazing. I apologize if I've asked before. Are you building this for any particular event or it'll be done when done? Thanks for sharing, Charlie.

[clill]

Just a fun driver I can cruise.

[thedugan]

Interesting never thought of running the fuel line inboard of the subframe like that. Seems perfect to keep it hidden and clean. I have no doubts about the way it's being run, as I trust that they know what they are doing. Interested to see how close the exhaust will be to the lines. Might have a new project to move my line in the future to hide it.

[Ketzer]

Just a fun driver I can cruise.

Since you've owned or driven most of Mark's creations...

Any chance you (or Mark) would ever give us a brief rundown of the evolution of these Camaros? What you learned each time that you really liked or really didn't?

I'm sure Mark could pen a million pages on the tech differences, I'm just saying seat of the pants, real world driving...what makes each one better?


Jeff-

[Ns RS]

Charley, which of your crocs will you color match for paint?

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Intercooler progress.

[syborg tt]

Well, that "Y" pipe is super impressive

[clill]

Matt doing what Matt does.

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Making ac lines.

[syborg tt]

Making ac lines.

Of Course He Is Making His Own Custom Line

I really need to go visit this shop !!!

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[jeff71]

Looking good!

I’m curious how many hours is Matt into the trans lines.

[syborg tt]

Incredible work and looking forward to more pictures

Thank you for sharing

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[syborg tt]

Incredible work !!!

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[syborg tt]

Wow does that look awesome.

I like the vents that you are using can you tell me where they are from as I would to switch mine to those.

[JB400]

Look like 05-09 Mustang

[clill]

Bought from Vintage Air...

[Dodge383fi]

You can also get them from Summit under the VA p/n 499193.

[syborg tt]

You can also get them from Summit under the VA p/n 499193.

I just ordered them from Summit

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[Cramer4918]

Absolutely amazing fabrication skills! You will definitely have one pristine ride!

[Goosesdad]

Freakin' awesome!!!

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Booster seat so you can see over the steering wheel? :lol:

[thedugan]

Storage boxes for the backseat area?

[Goosesdad]

Stumped. But it appears to be heavy gauge and the shapes are kinda odd. I'm thinking a tank of some kind.

[srode1]

A box with beautiful tig welding :lol: Seriously, ethanol injection reservoir?

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[OLDFLM]

Tanks a lot!

[Jimbo1367]

Did the owner/ fab guy ever work at DSE? His work looks like theirs. Beautiful work.

[clill]

No. Matt works alot more efficiently also.

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[WSSix]

Fuel and diff vents?

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[LS1-IROC]

what's the finish technique to get that nice pattern on the stainless, DA sander with 120grit?

Not my work, but that's aluminum and yes, a DA gives that finish. I usually use 120 of 220 depending on how much surface damage I'm trying to cover.

[Jimbo1367]

DSE always had a nice finish like that. I always assumed it was a sander(vibration) with some fine grit or steel wool pad attachment.

Cill,
Does Matt have any other workers or is he a one man show? Does he paint the “rides” in-house or farm it out?

Thanks,
Jimbo

[clill]

It's just Matt and Scott. No painting. The Camaro will go to Dutchboys.

[Jimbo1367]

Thanks for the info. They do impressive work
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Jim

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Fitting sheetmetal.

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[XLexusTech]

I am in awe of the craftsmanship.. those body lines are meticulous and inspirational..

[jeff71]

I can’t wait to see what shade of white dutchboys comes up with. L-O-L

[clill]

I can’t wait to see what shade of white dutchboys comes up with. L-O-L

Pinkish.

[fleet]

Pinkish.

:tv_happy:

[thedugan]

Whatever color it is, it will be over-the-top incredible.

[DBasher]

All that work and you're not centering the wiper post, what kind of build is this?! :headspin:

Beautiful fab work and tons of talent as usual.
:flag2::cheers:

[clill]

Dammit !

[DBasher]

A bit unrelated to this car but I’m wondering how the riviera is holding up with the solid mount chassis. Also, your Sonoma lives in the PNW now, I saw and talked with the owner at Puyallup GG’s, sounds like he’s loving the truck.

Also, if you didn’t get a thank you card, thank you. 🖕🏼❤️

[clill]

A bit unrelated to this car but I’m wondering how the riviera is holding up with the solid mount chassis. Also, your Sonoma lives in the PNW now, I saw and talked with the owner at Puyallup GG’s, sounds like he’s loving the truck.

Also, if you didn’t get a thank you card, thank you. 🖕🏼❤️
It is holding up fine. Think of it as a unibody like half the cars out there today.

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Do you know what sizes your supply and return fittings are(to the engine)? Do you maybe have a picture with all the lines hooked up to it? Are you doing a similar dipstick to Mark's Apex?

thanks in advance! this is coming out great!!

[Stielow]

Do you know what sizes your supply and return fittings are(to the engine)? Do you maybe have a picture with all the lines hooked up to it? Are you doing a similar dipstick to Mark's Apex?

thanks in advance! this is coming out great!!

Feed line from the tank tot he engine will be a -16 AN and the return a -12 AN.

Yes a similar dipstick to Apex in the cowl.

Mark

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Feed line from the tank tot he engine will be a -16 AN and the return a -12 AN.

Yes a similar dipstick to Apex in the cowl.

Mark

Mark, thank you! Where are you connecting the drain on the air/oil separator? About how much oil do you end up using and or measuring in the tank? Any good pics of your tank all hooked up?

[thedugan]

Checkout the build thread on Apex. Might have the info you are looking for.
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=57667&highlight=apex&page=14

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[WSSix]

I'm excited! I hope you're excited, Charlie.

[syborg tt]

I like the color and can't wait to see more pictures

[clill]

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[camcojb]

Would it be this color? I remember how you loved it when you got that car.

[clill]

Nope.

[camcojb]

Nope.

Would look great though, and be unique. Don't be stealing my brown lol...

[clill]

Just a heads up. Matt sent chrome to Advanced Plating and was told expect maybe a 20 week turnaround. Apparently they are busy so anyone doing chrome might send right away.


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[Ketzer]

Just a heads up. Matt sent chrome to Advanced Plating and was told expect maybe a 20 week turnaround. Apparently they are busy so anyone doing chrome might send right away.


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Thats their normal turn around apparently...I got a quote 4 years ago on some bumpers and was about the same. Not bitching, good for them to have that much success. Very few platers left.

Jeff-

[thedugan]

Thats their normal turn around apparently...I got a quote 4 years ago on some bumpers and was about the same. Not bitching, good for them to have that much success. Very few platers left.

Jeff-


Jesus, on the TV shows they turn it around in days. That's with the film crew there watching it get done....

[214Chevy]

Advance Platers are some of the best. They charge top dollar for their services..

[dhutton]

I read the other day that Dave Kindig bought Ogden Chrome so his jobs get priority.

Don

[Ketzer]

Advance Platers are some of the best. They charge top dollar for their services..

Two bumpers and four door handles, the estimate was $7500...and that was 4 years ago...

Jeff-

[214Chevy]

Two bumpers and four door handles, the estimate was $7500...and that was 4 years ago...

Jeff-

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[Ns RS]

What wheels will you be running because these would compliment the pinkish color you picked - perhaps have evod do a donkey version to really tie the build together…

[clill]

Perfect

[Cramer4918]

What wheels will you be running because these would compliment the pinkish color you picked - perhaps have evod do a donkey version to really tie the build together…

These would be BOMBDIGITY!!! :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

[clill]

Dutchboys has it now....

[clill]

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[camcojb]

What did that color come from?

[clill]

I actually got inspired by Charley Hutton’s letterhead that was with a Riviera invoice. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240215/7a45abfc385396ad9333ad3913dd85a5.jpg


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[CHAZMO1986]

Man that's a beautiful color!!!

[camcojb]

Man that's a beautiful color!!!

Absolutely!!!

[fleet]

https://i.postimg.cc/zGRHHGKm/IMG-7014.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FYNH2mTG)


Its not white…but hey, it does the job.

I guess.

:P

[syborg tt]

What a stunning color and I love how it brings out the lines of the car.

[WSSix]

Great color choice, Charlie!

[OLDFLM]

What a great color for a modern take on Lucerne Blue!

What's the name? What vehicle did it come from?

[F'in mine]

I'm guessing....
81125

[DBasher]

Great color, very Arizona. Needs not black wheels.

[Jay Hilliard]

Charlie, stop holding out. We need an update.

[TomT]

Car looks awesome, Charley. Love the fact that it's an RS.

[clill]

LOL...No longer a RS.

[fleet]

Car looks awesome, Charley. Love the fact that it's an RS.

LOL...No longer a RS.

https://i.postimg.cc/JncJ7ZJ5/IMG-4778.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

:P

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[214Chevy]

Beautiful...

[camcojb]

Beautiful...

X 1000 :thumbsup:

[kwhizz]

Getting closer !!!!!!!

[clill]

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[paulk68]

Beautiful! I really wish someone made that clutch master cylinder bracket with the side close out. fits the firewall so much nicer.

[kwhizz]

You will have to put a GPS system in the car so you can find it.......Otherwise you will sticking you key in every Red or White Camaros in the Hotel parking lots.....LOL

[Sonar Chief]

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Looks great ... if your into that kinda attention :hello: Hey did they replace the quarters? Thought all 67s door jambs came stamped with the full telephone stamp not the separated one like the 68s??

[WSSix]

Thanks again for posting all the detail shots, Charlie. This is an incredible build in my opinion. I love just how clean it is. Beautiful color.

[89 RS]

Paint and body work looks amazing. Thanks for sharing!

[BonzoHansen]

Damn that's a nice color for a 60s era car. Really nice.

Is that bedliner in the trunk?

[clill]

Yes. I wish it wasn't.

[camcojb]

Yes. I wish it wasn't.

I like it, thinking about doing the same on mine.

[BonzoHansen]

Yes. I wish it wasn't.

due to the texture?

[214Chevy]

I think it's a good idea. My trunk, entire under car and inside floor is bed lined.

[clill]

I have just never liked it. Hard to clean and probably impossible to get off.

[colorado80439]

Good idea you don't want to have to pull that fender off for a leak after final assembly.

[clill]

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[sleepertime]

Time, Talent, Artistry, Fabrication all wrapped into one. Amazing...:idea:

[clill]

I could stare at those lines all day long.

[214Chevy]

I could stare at those lines all day long.

It's those small details like this, that makes a build spectacular.

[thedugan]

The making of those lines and Matt's metal magic starts on page 17.

[syborg tt]

Well, Ain't that Purty !!!!

mj

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[WSSix]

Seriously cool. Any idea how many hours they have just in those pipes?

[clill]

Nope but he is so talented it is no big deal to him... He loves doing it.

[BonzoHansen]

Seriously cool. Any idea how many hours they have just in those pipes?

that's next level stuff for sure

[clill]

I said "whatever you do don't put a stripe on it !"

[clill]

Matt cleaned and straightened all the trim pieces. Now off to be polished.

[clill]

Chrome back from Advanced Plating.

[clill]

And stuff back from Powdercoating.

[Tinker]

Chrome back from Advanced Plating.

Chrome?
That’s almost “dare to be different “ nowadays

Looking great!

[Jay Hilliard]

Joe and Paul did an amazing job as usual.

[WSSix]

That's a great idea for a stripe. I have not seen that before.

[DWC]

Matt cleaned and straightened all the trim pieces. Now off to be polished.

I'm not big on stripes either, but love what they did.

Also, do you happen to know the process they used to get the trim to this state of finish? I see a scuff pad and some sanding disks...

Daniel