Newbie going try to make a pro touring 1970 Z28

[Juicypop]

Well I have been a long time stalker on the site but can finally make a build thread. I purchased this car today pretty good starter or best one could find. I want to make this a pro touring car with a ls swap. So here we go hope to have it done in one year. Love the site and am thankful to look at everyone's great builds to give me the motivation to try to do the same.


I will take some better pics of the car tomorrow when it is light. By the time got it home was starting to get dark.

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By the way any help you can give me on my other thread I put up is appreciated. Thanks here is the link http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?p=625130#post625130

[rickpaw]

Congrats on your purchase. Post up some detailed pictures if you can.

Regarding your swap, make a plan and stick to it. That way you can have controls on your budget. Also, any plans on the suspensions/brakes, or other upgrades? If so, set realistic goals for the car (track car/cruiser/bone stock other than LS swap) and stick to it.

Good luck.

[Juicypop]

Congrats on your purchase. Post up some detailed pictures if you can.

Regarding your swap, make a plan and stick to it. That way you can have controls on your budget. Also, any plans on the suspensions/brakes, or other upgrades? If so, set realistic goals for the car (track car/cruiser/bone stock other than LS swap) and stick to it.

Good luck.

I have the car at my friends shop when I get back in town will definitely post better pics. I want the car for a cruiser only so just want a stock ls3 with bolt ons only. Just typical pro touring look big brakes, big wheels, ls powered, thinking of coil overs in the rear, and mini tubbed. Have a 35k budget so have 23k this year. Then more the next year so thinking power plant, brakes, suspension, and interior this year. Next year mini tub and complete paint job with new wheels. I figure will have 50 - 60k in this car when it is done but know can easily have way more depending.

[rickpaw]

... Then more the next year so thinking power plant, brakes, suspension, and interior this year....

That's a lot to accomplish when we only have 1.5 week left this year.:poke:

Just messing with you man. Good luck and keep us posted.

[awr68]

Congrats on the purchase! Looks like a nice starting point! Heck, I would love to drive just like that for awhile!

[tubbed69]

Welcome and nice looking car to start with:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[glassman]

Sweet ride!! good luck to you in this en-devour, lemme know if you have any questions....

[zj510]

Looks like a real good car to start with! In for the build

[Zoomin]

This is a project I'd like to do, so I'll be tagging along to learn what I can.

[Juicypop]

Thanks everyone man how the hell you do pick something with all the good ways to find stuff and great parts. HAHA

[Juicypop]

Finally got xmas over and got it out of the shop to take some pictures. It has a long way to go but sure am excited about actually having my own street car. HAHA

By the way anyone play pool leagues like bca or apa? Just curious any pool playing members.

I even took some advice from one of the members and asked for a book for xmas. Lol
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[Che70velle]

Great looking car!

[Juicypop]

Great looking car!

Thanks for the kind words looking at all the awesome builds on this site sure does not compare. I cannot wait till make some head way on it know it takes time.

[aany001]

Wow what a nice car to start with. That's is gonna be a sweet ride. Im hooked!!!!

[syborg tt]

I moved this reply over from your original thread with minor edits


Here is my advise.

There is nothing wrong with the small block as is the small block engine hase worked for years leave it and enjoy it.

Start with these modification first.

Suspension
1. fix the stuff that is bad and then install new upper & lower control arms.
a. Look at Speed Tech, Ride Tech & DSE bolt on stuff for your stock subframe.


Brakes
1. Just call Tobin at Kore3 and be done.
2. DSE Brake Booster with Kore3 brakes feels like factory brakes

Wheels & Tires
1. You can fit a 255 up front with no issue's a 265 & 275 with minor rub
2. You can fit a 275 in the rear with no issue's on stock wheel tubs.
3. With a 285 or 295 you are limited to how low you can go.
4. 26" height is what you are looking for

Interior
1. If you leave the small block and current transmission all of your guages will work just fine. If you start to change stuff then you are going to have to start planning with this stuff. So my suggestion to save you money is to just leave the small block.

2. Seats - Buy a nice set of seats or just have the one's in the car recovered or maybe they will clean up.

3. Replace the Carpet and install some DEI sound deadening under the carpet and behind the door panel. Quieting the car on the inside makes it more pleasurable to drive.

4. Nothing feels better then a nice Steering Wheel so swap it out. It may even make you feel like a kid again.


Then enjoy the car for a little bit before you spend 10 grand on the swap. Heck you may find out you hate driving old cars. If you find out you love the car then and only then plan for the LS swap. My suggestion would be Speed Inc in Illinois they are fast and do great work.

..... and the last thing I will add. Don't take the car apart as you may loose interest in the car as most builds take huge amounts of money and time.

Baby steps - is the way to build a car especially if this is your first.

Step 1.

Get the current car running and driving

Step 2.

Steering, Suspension and Brakes

Step 3.

Creature Comforts (interior)

Step 4.

Wheels & Tires because your current one's will look good for now.

[Juicypop]

I moved this reply over from your original thread with minor edits


Here is my advise.

There is nothing wrong with the small block as is the small block engine hase worked for years leave it and enjoy it.

Start with these modification first.

Suspension
1. fix the stuff that is bad and then install new upper & lower control arms.
a. Look at Speed Tech, Ride Tech & DSE bolt on stuff for your stock subframe.


Brakes
1. Just call Tobin at Kore3 and be done.
2. DSE Brake Booster with Kore3 brakes feels like factory brakes

Wheels & Tires
1. You can fit a 255 up front with no issue's a 265 & 275 with minor rub
2. You can fit a 275 in the rear with no issue's on stock wheel tubs.
3. With a 285 or 295 you are limited to how low you can go.
4. 26" height is what you are looking for

Interior
1. If you leave the small block and current transmission all of your guages will work just fine. If you start to change stuff then you are going to have to start planning with this stuff. So my suggestion to save you money is to just leave the small block.

2. Seats - Buy a nice set of seats or just have the one's in the car recovered or maybe they will clean up.

3. Replace the Carpet and install some DEI sound deadening under the carpet and behind the door panel. Quieting the car on the inside makes it more pleasurable to drive.

4. Nothing feels better then a nice Steering Wheel so swap it out. It may even make you feel like a kid again.


Then enjoy the car for a little bit before you spend 10 grand on the swap. Heck you may find out you hate driving old cars. If you find out you love the car then and only then plan for the LS swap. My suggestion would be Speed Inc in Illinois they are fast and do great work.

..... and the last thing I will add. Don't take the car apart as you may loose interest in the car as most builds take huge amounts of money and time.

Baby steps - is the way to build a car especially if this is your first.

Step 1.

Get the current car running and driving

Step 2.

Steering, Suspension and Brakes

Step 3.

Creature Comforts (interior)

Step 4.

Wheels & Tires because your current one's will look good for now.

Great idea's I appreciate all feedback and help for sure. This will be my first build so anything will help.

[Juggernaut]

Can't wait to see how this build goes! Happy to see growing popularity of second-gen Camaros here. :D
I moved this reply over from your original thread with minor edits


Here is my advise.

That is fantastic advice. I've wondered myself if I'd really enjoy driving all the old cars that -- in theory -- I really love. Haven't had the opportunity yet but this is something to keep in mind for sure.

[Bru]

I'm loving the Hugger Orange. It just suits the car perfectly.
I've always thought that Hugger Orange 1st & 2nd Gen's with a white interior was one of the best color combo's.

Is your intent to keep it orange?

[Juicypop]

I'm loving the Hugger Orange. It just suits the car perfectly.
I've always thought that Hugger Orange 1st & 2nd Gen's with a white interior was one of the best color combo's.

Is your intent to keep it orange?

Man I like it but have always wanted a silver car with black stripes. So will just have to see when that time comes.

[syborg tt]

Man I like it but have always wanted a silver car with black stripes. So will just have to see when that time comes.


Trust me paint it last.


Marty-MJ
www.garagescene.net

[aany001]

Marty that's some great advise and couldn't agree with you more.

[will69camaro]

Maybe I missed it. Is that an original hugger orange z28 split bumper? Very desirable car if so!

Syborg nailed it. My advice mimics his. Keep is running as much as you can during the build. It will keep interest up.
DEFINITELY paint it last.

[RLJ676]

Doing all the labor yourself? If so the $35k seems about spot on. That's about what I had in parts doing a similar project, bought a nice, restored running 72 w/ a 355 and changed every single part until it's a pro-touring setup w an LSA supercharged LS lol. I got burnt on labor for the stuff I didn't do myself going multiple times over budget due to a variety of things out of my control.

My advice, be very specific w/ vendors on what fits and how, even reputable ones can be totally wrong and not want to admit it, costing you a ton of time (or labor $). I specifically had this issue w/ custom works who is very big in the second gen world (all over Nasty z28). Same thing w/ Hurst Driveline, they both made things right but not after I paid God knows how much extra in labor trouble shooting "bolt in" parts they sent which were flat out the wrong part that had to go back.

[Roger Poirier]

I like the orange and white stripes also. Remember some of these guys have been working on pro-touring cars for years. Myself included, although I am now finished.

One step at a time...


Roger

[WSSix]

Marty's advice is great! I completely agree about going with Kore3 brakes and SpeedTech suspension. I'm biased or experienced. You decide. Whose control arms are on the car now? They may be good and worth keeping.

Here's my honest opinion about the car. It looks great until you open the hood. There is so much just thrown into the engine bay with no real thought. This is a good thing. It means you have a good running car with loads of potential. With only a little bit of change and some elbow grease you can have a great looking car. Even better, it won't cost you a lot so you can save your money and spend it later on modifications but it will have a substantial impact on how the car looks.

You can do simple things like paint the inner fenders and hood hinges maybe. How's the under side of the hood look? Clean up the wiring and brake lines. Absolutely no color coded crimp connectors like that yellow one on the wiper motor. Get an electric fan on there. Change the radiator hoses to ones that fit and look good. Those valve covers are fantastic and expensive. I'd keep them because I personally like them. Get the headers recoated and get rid of the cheap chrome dipstick or anything else that's auto parts store chrome simply to be one more chromed part under the hood. Is the battery mounted correctly? Get the cables changed out to better looking and fitting ones.

These are all ideas that I pulled out from a glance at the car. The point is not to pick on it and show you all that's wrong. It's to show you all that's just waiting to be changed and will make the car look great. You just have to decide what direction you want to go before you start. Having a consistent theme or look makes a world of difference no matter what your tastes are. If you'll notice, all high end builds or builds in general that turn heads hold a theme or style throughout the entire car.

So I'd concentrate on maximizing what you've got so you can enjoy driving the car. After all, it's a running driving car now. Save you money and collect the parts as you go. Build in stages with a game plan and stick to it. This will allow you to have a lot of fun with the car while sticking to a budget.

Good luck! You've got a great looking car to start with.

[Juicypop]

Trust me paint it last.


Marty-MJ
www.garagescene.net


Considering the amount in my budget that is a gaurantee. LOL

Maybe I missed it. Is that an original hugger orange z28 split bumper? Very desirable car if so!

Syborg nailed it. My advice mimics his. Keep is running as much as you can during the build. It will keep interest up.
DEFINITELY paint it last.

That is the plan.

Doing all the labor yourself? If so the $35k seems about spot on. That's about what I had in parts doing a similar project, bought a nice, restored running 72 w/ a 355 and changed every single part until it's a pro-touring setup w an LSA supercharged LS lol. I got burnt on labor for the stuff I didn't do myself going multiple times over budget due to a variety of things out of my control.

My advice, be very specific w/ vendors on what fits and how, even reputable ones can be totally wrong and not want to admit it, costing you a ton of time (or labor $). I specifically had this issue w/ custom works who is very big in the second gen world (all over Nasty z28). Same thing w/ Hurst Driveline, they both made things right but not after I paid God knows how much extra in labor trouble shooting "bolt in" parts they sent which were flat out the wrong part that had to go back.



I like the orange and white stripes also. Remember some of these guys have been working on pro-touring cars for years. Myself included, although I am now finished.

One step at a time...


Roger

Thanks

Marty's advice is great! I completely agree about going with Kore3 brakes and SpeedTech suspension. I'm biased or experienced. You decide. Whose control arms are on the car now? They may be good and worth keeping.

Here's my honest opinion about the car. It looks great until you open the hood. There is so much just thrown into the engine bay with no real thought. This is a good thing. It means you have a good running car with loads of potential. With only a little bit of change and some elbow grease you can have a great looking car. Even better, it won't cost you a lot so you can save your money and spend it later on modifications but it will have a substantial impact on how the car looks.

You can do simple things like paint the inner fenders and hood hinges maybe. How's the under side of the hood look? Clean up the wiring and brake lines. Absolutely no color coded crimp connectors like that yellow one on the wiper motor. Get an electric fan on there. Change the radiator hoses to ones that fit and look good. Those valve covers are fantastic and expensive. I'd keep them because I personally like them. Get the headers recoated and get rid of the cheap chrome dipstick or anything else that's auto parts store chrome simply to be one more chromed part under the hood. Is the battery mounted correctly? Get the cables changed out to better looking and fitting ones.

These are all ideas that I pulled out from a glance at the car. The point is not to pick on it and show you all that's wrong. It's to show you all that's just waiting to be changed and will make the car look great. You just have to decide what direction you want to go before you start. Having a consistent theme or look makes a world of difference no matter what your tastes are. If you'll notice, all high end builds or builds in general that turn heads hold a theme or style throughout the entire car.

So I'd concentrate on maximizing what you've got so you can enjoy driving the car. After all, it's a running driving car now. Save you money and collect the parts as you go. Build in stages with a game plan and stick to it. This will allow you to have a lot of fun with the car while sticking to a budget.

Good luck! You've got a great looking car to start with.

I am paying for labor which sure eats the budget. Met with the mechanic last night and here is what we are doing so far.

Painless wiring harness will eliminate and rewire all those goofy wires
Needed power steering pump
Needed new air compressor all vintage stuff other than that was good
Ididit steering column
MSD atomic fuel system
New gas tank and set up for new fuel system
New battery
New radiator
New inner fenders
New billet specialties hood hinges with the gas shock
New Hood latch
Car has a 4l80 e so going get a converter for it.

Bought SW rims even though was not ready but will be eventually for wheels some time. HAHA

Where we stand now.

[WSSix]

Sounds great. Nice score on SW's rims. I love those rims and might have a set one day.

[randy]

First thing is to clean up everything that you already have on the car. You are mentioning billet hood hinges, steering column etc. You already have those things that are currently working on your car. Upgrade parts last, replace bad parts first.
I would clean everything up in your car, replace the rubber floor mats as the rubber looks cheesy and Replace the steering wheel. Now your interior looks better than most of them out there

After that address the inner fenders and wiring at the same time. Route the wires behind the fenders for a cleaner look. If you have access you can then paint the subframe while your at it, address suspension issues etc

You won't learn how to fix your car if you don't try. Thats how most of us started. I now know every stinking wire on my car

[Juicypop]

Sounds great. Nice score on SW's rims. I love those rims and might have a set one day.

Thanks alot

First thing is to clean up everything that you already have on the car. You are mentioning billet hood hinges, steering column etc. You already have those things that are currently working on your car. Upgrade parts last, replace bad parts first.
I would clean everything up in your car, replace the rubber floor mats as the rubber looks cheesy and Replace the steering wheel. Now your interior looks better than most of them out there

After that address the inner fenders and wiring at the same time. Route the wires behind the fenders for a cleaner look. If you have access you can then paint the subframe while your at it, address suspension issues etc

You won't learn how to fix your car if you don't try. Thats how most of us started. I now know every stinking wire on my car

I work 60 -70 hours a week and have a five year old involved in gymnastics. If had to do work on the car it would never get done and would not want to post those pics either. lol I respect people who can do all that work there self and can feel proud of it. I am just not that type of person really wish I was but am in no hurry for this car to be done want it done right and way it is if need more time to save money that is the way it is.

My shop is going make all new a/c hoses and make the wiring look super neat and clean. I bought a NRG steering wheel and quick release with the new column. I am going to dynamat and replace all the carpet with new floor mats but just not worried about that until that happens. Trying figure out which front seats to go with looking at cerullo, tmi, or 05/06 gto seats. Will tackle that once car is done with this shop and is mini tubbed.

Will keep everyone posted once some progress is made waiting on parts to come in and couple things before anything will be done. Guessing month to six weeks from now fuel system, wiring, and a/c should be completed but will see and will post pics when it is.

[Juicypop]

Well stopped by the shop yesterday doing the work on my car. It is coming along so far say the least. HAHA I have the motor at the machine shop being repaired from the flat cam that did some damage. Having a hydraulic roller cam installed and everything redone. While the motor is out have the transmission at the transmission shop being refreshed just cause bought a used car might as well and having them installing a yank 3200 converter in the 4l80e I ordered from Yank.

Since no motor and transmission went ahead had the subframe taking off to send to get repowder coated. I also sent the spindles, springs, and few other things to get powder coated as well.

Had the shop take all the interior out since going to rewire the whole car with a painless wiring kit and install all new dynomat. Soon as subframe comes back and other parts will go to mini tubber to get that done and going have him smooth out the firewall since the redneck just cut a huge whole for the vintage air.

Making progress trying have car done before Hot rod power tour that is my goal but will just have to see.

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[waynieZ]

Great project thanks for posting.

[rickpaw]

Making progress so far.

Regarding the seats, make sure to try and sit in the ones on your list. That way you can see how well it fits your frame, and see how comfortable it is to you. I went thru 4 sets of seats, including the stockers, before I sucked it up and splurged on a set of Recaros. One of the best things I bought for the car.

Just my $0.02

[Juicypop]

Great project thanks for posting.

Thanks for the kind words.

Making progress so far.

Regarding the seats, make sure to try and sit in the ones on your list. That way you can see how well it fits your frame, and see how comfortable it is to you. I went thru 4 sets of seats, including the stockers, before I sucked it up and splurged on a set of Recaros. One of the best things I bought for the car.

Just my $0.02

Thanks for that advice. Yah seats have been one of the last things on my mind with all the other issues have faced. LOL I do know that this probably should of been my first priority.

[Intimidator3]

Nice build there! Great meeting you at the car show the other night and talking about your build. I think you are in the right direction. Really like where this is going!

-Kenny

[pro66tour]

Kore3 brakes and SpeedTech suspension. I'm biased too...

AND you saved yourself a few years work and $$$ with a nice clean car...
Welcome!

[Juicypop]

Nice build there! Great meeting you at the car show the other night and talking about your build. I think you are in the right direction. Really like where this is going!

-Kenny

Thanks brother loved your car man is so sick. Thanks for the kind words and was really nice to meet you as well.

Kore3 brakes and SpeedTech suspension. I'm biased too...

AND you saved yourself a few years work and $$$ with a nice clean car...
Welcome!

Thanks brother!

[Juicypop]

Well car has been at a stand still but is about to be back to rolling here soon. Just got the subframe and some parts from the powder coater. They are going put the subrame back on the car with the front suspension so can take it to the minitubber so can fit the wheels I bought from SW on it. I cannot wait to see the wheels on this car. LOL My motor just got back from the machine shop, transmission is just waiting on the yank 3200 converter which should be here any day, and soon as car is back from mini tubber car will be completely rewired with a painless wiring kit then put back together.

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By the way I bought these Fiske from SW he has to be one of the nicest guys you ever meet. Extremely helpful for a noob like me. haha Went to his shop and all you can do is drool. He had ferrari's, lambo's, mercedes, road race style porche's, older pick up trucks super clean with 1000 hp twin turbo motors, multiple old trans am's, zr1 corvette, and many many more of the coolest cars you ever want to see. Just going to his shop checking out his customers cars and his cars was a experience I will never forget in its self.

[Tokyo_Torquer]

wow, that is a nice looking wheel!

[Spiffav8]

Those look awesome! I bet your excited to get cranking on the car. I would be!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Juicypop]

wow, that is a nice looking wheel!

Thanks brother!

Those look awesome! I bet your excited to get cranking on the car. I would be!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks man and yes cannot wait to finally drive it. LOL

[flomofo]

If you found no rust or other damage, you got a great deal on that car.

Looks good already, nice way to start.

[Intimidator3]

That looks badass! Is that two-tone on the powder coating on the frame or is it the light? Powder coat is the way to go. Tough as nails. How were the body bushing perches? They had to re-weld new ones on mine. they were rusted, but came out good in the end.

[Juicypop]

That looks badass! Is that two-tone on the powder coating on the frame or is it the light? Powder coat is the way to go. Tough as nails. How were the body bushing perches? They had to re-weld new ones on mine. they were rusted, but came out good in the end.

It must be the light cause was all one color. The perches were fine been real lucky without finding any rust or any damage caused from it.

Got the tires mounted yesterday.

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[Juicypop]

I was at the car show in Kemah tonight ran into a guy selling a set of c7 seats brand new cause he put sparco in his c7. Anyone know if they will fit in a 1970 camaro? I bought them anyway but just wanted to know what am up against.

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[Jimbo1367]

NICE WHEELS. WHAT SIZE AND BACK SPACing? Are those Fiske?

[Juicypop]

NICE WHEELS. WHAT SIZE AND BACK SPACing? Are those Fiske?


Thanks brother

18x10 6.125" bs Outer rim 2.0x18 Inner rim 8.0x18 Fikse Profil 5

19x12.5 5.875" bs Outer rim 5.5x19 Inner rim 7.0x19 Fikse Profil 5

Making some progress not very much but some. Mounted the tires to the rims I bought from SW. Tried to buy the DSE mini tub kit but it was on back order. Tried buy DSE Quadralink it was also on back order. So bought the mini tubs from DSE and going install the speed tech torque arm. I also bought the narrowed gas tank from DSE even though do not need it now will install it anyway. Stephens race cars will do the mini tub installation and the installation of the torque arm. Also going have them put stronger axles, posi unit, and 3.73 gears instead of the 3.08 in it. Soon as car is mini tubbed the fun will finally begin can put it all back together to be able to drive it. I wanted go with a LS swap but just did not have it in the budget so rebuilt the 383 put a hydraulic roller in it, bought a vintage air front runner with dse power steering pump, had the headers receramic coated, and will install the msd atomic efi. Bought a 3200 yank convertor for the 4l80e transmission. Doing all I can to get this car running before the power tour know will not be painted by then but sure think can get it rolling by then. Please hurry parts!

[glassman]

The seats will fit, but a little narrow and a little high. You will need to reinforce (if the seats came with the mounting brackets) the pan below the brackets though to make it safe, road worthy and track worthy are two different "worthy's" btw

[Juggernaut]

Those do look like some EXTREMELY narrow seats just sitting on the ground, with no other interior bits around them. I feel like I'd need one seat for each cheek.

Gonna look sweet in your car, though!

[Juicypop]

The seats will fit, but a little narrow and a little high. You will need to reinforce (if the seats came with the mounting brackets) the pan below the brackets though to make it safe, road worthy and track worthy are two different "worthy's" btw

Thanks brother appreciate the input.

Those do look like some EXTREMELY narrow seats just sitting on the ground, with no other interior bits around them. I feel like I'd need one seat for each cheek.

Gonna look sweet in your car, though!

Thanks man still undecided if will put them in there or not bought them but still have not made my mind up yet. LOL

[waynieZ]

I love the wheels, they'll look sweet on there.

[slenning]

Great project!! Love the wheels. Man I wish my second gen would have been that nice to start with lol.

[SSLance]

I like your plan of action on the car, it'll be up and running before you know it. Keep up the good work.

[Juicypop]

I love the wheels, they'll look sweet on there.

Thanks brother getting them on there will be the key. LOL I have been trying for the last month to make that work. Hope everything I bought will make that happen.

Great project!! Love the wheels. Man I wish my second gen would have been that nice to start with lol.

Thanks it needs a paint job and will have to wait a while for it. I hoped to have car done in two years so trying my best.

I like your plan of action on the car, it'll be up and running before you know it. Keep up the good work.


Thanks brother.

[King Nothing]

Looks sweet!! I do love a Hugger Orange car. I thought they only produced them in 69 and in 99?

[will69camaro]

Looks sweet!! I do love a Hugger Orange car. I thought they only produced them in 69 and in 99?

Hugger Orange was also available in 70 1/2. There are only 3 years of the color.

[King Nothing]

Hugger Orange was also available in 70 1/2. There are only 3 years of the color.
Learn something new everyday!!!

[will69camaro]

Learn something new everyday!!!

Yea I've got a 69, had a 99 SS (tracked it down and if oil picks back up I may try to get it back) and would be looking for a 70.5 in HO.

Color codes through the years are 72, 65 and 99 for 69,70.5 and 99 respectively.

[Juicypop]

Looks sweet!! I do love a Hugger Orange car. I thought they only produced them in 69 and in 99?

Thanks man and I do not know much about the history of the colors but take Will word for it. He has helped me more than once with car help.

[will69camaro]

I don't know it all. But I've been researching camaros specifically first gens but all for the better part of 20 years.

Car is looking good and a good starting point already. Can't wait to see more progress.

[Juicypop]

I don't know it all. But I've been researching camaros specifically first gens but all for the better part of 20 years.

Car is looking good and a good starting point already. Can't wait to see more progress.

Thanks man I am just waiting on parts so can get the ball rolling again.

[King Nothing]

I don't know it all. But I've been researching camaros specifically first gens but all for the better part of 20 years.

Car is looking good and a good starting point already. Can't wait to see more progress.
I know 4th gens, specifically 98-02 lol

[will69camaro]

I know 4th gens, specifically 98-02 lol

I only know a bit about those. Had mine and did open track days with it for about 3-4 years in college. Regret selling it bigtime.

Thanks man I am just waiting on parts so can get the ball rolling again.

Excellent, I know that feel.

William

[King Nothing]

I only know a bit about those. Had mine and did open track days with it for about 3-4 years in college. Regret selling it big time.
William
It actually was a good platform and done up right, looked very good!
My old SS
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I apologize for the thread hijack!

[Juicypop]

Well the car has been on hold for a while waiting to get mini tubbed. Brought it to Rick Stevens race cars to get the rear end rebuilt, mini tubs installed, and torque arm from speed tech installed. Nothing ever easy found worst possible news out so had to cut out floor boards and trunk out completely.:superhack: Bought new floor board assembly and trunk pan for the car. Will keep posting pics of progress.


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[Intimidator3]

Been there. Hey, when the floors are done, it will look so nice though. Also, get the Dynomat floor kit for your model and the Dyno liner as well. It makes it a lot quieter inside.
The only problem, you almost hate to put anything on the new floor boards because they look so good. At least you have full justification to do the minitubs now. I told my wife "See Honey, since the floorboards are all rotted, now I have to get mintubs" :smiley_smack: :G-Dub: :superhack:

[Zoomin]

Trying to get your pictures up....

Well the car has been on hold for a while waiting to get mini tubbed. Brought it to Rick Stevens race cars to get the rear end rebuilt, mini tubs installed, and torque arm from speed tech installed. Nothing ever easy found worst possible news out so had to cut out floor boards and trunk out completely.:superhack: Bought new floor board assembly and trunk pan for the car. Will keep posting pics of progress.


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[Zoomin]

Yep, that was nasty, alright. :confused18:

[Juicypop]

Trying to get your pictures up....

Thanks brother appreciate the help not sure what I did wrong.

[Juicypop]

Been there. Hey, when the floors are done, it will look so nice though. Also, get the Dynomat floor kit for your model and the Dyno liner as well. It makes it a lot quieter inside.
The only problem, you almost hate to put anything on the new floor boards because they look so good. At least you have full justification to do the minitubs now. I told my wife "See Honey, since the floorboards are all rotted, now I have to get mintubs" :smiley_smack: :G-Dub: :superhack:

Lol she does not know yet. Will soon enough when I make a withdraw. LOL

[Zoomin]

Thanks brother appreciate the help not sure what I did wrong.

You were close - edit your post to remove everything between .jpg and [/img]

There's a long string of extra characters in there that are hosing it up.

[98ssnova]

Wow that's unfortunate at least you found now and not after you completed everything.

[Juicypop]

Wow that's unfortunate at least you found now and not after you completed everything.

Always a positive to everything negative. LOL

[rickpaw]

Wow, the scope snow balled fast.

At least you know that the car will be rust free.

[Juicypop]

Little progress done on the car this week.

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[Juicypop]

Went by Stevens Race Cars in Santa Fe ,TX again and checked on my car. Car is coming along and looks great what he has done so far.
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They installed larger axles, installed new posi unit, installed the speed tech torque arm, made some custom brackets, relocated the cross member since have the 4l80e transmission, did the c clip elimination, and put in the new gears.

The rear end and everything else is at the powder coater supposed to be back today from them so they can put everything back underneath the car. Been long time trying to get these Fiske under this car and lot of aggravation but man should be just a matter of time. This is by far the best shop and easiest shop ever had to deal with. Super service and super friendly guy Rick is.

[BMR Sales]

Looking Great! I love the Hugger Orange. You said earlier you would rather have a Silver car - I'm doing a Pro-Touring '73 Silver, LS3, TR6060, Torque Arm, etc. I think the Hugger is nicer!

[Juicypop]

Looking Great! I love the Hugger Orange. You said earlier you would rather have a Silver car - I'm doing a Pro-Touring '73 Silver, LS3, TR6060, Torque Arm, etc. I think the Hugger is nicer!

That is the color of when I bought the car. I have not decided what color to paint now the orange is growing on me. LOL

I am jealous of your motor trans combo!

[Juicypop]

You were close - edit your post to remove everything between .jpg and [/img]

There's a long string of extra characters in there that are hosing it up.

Done thanks again for your help.

[glassman]

Way nice....keep it up!!

[waynieZ]

That's looking great.

[Juicypop]

Way nice....keep it up!!

That's looking great.

Thanks everyone

[Intimidator3]

Looking good, man! I missed the last couple of updates. I am excited to watch this one move along.

Been missing seeing you at the Niftee 50ees. Been there about every weekend. Now get that thing finished so you can park it out there with mine. :)

[Juicypop]

Looking good, man! I missed the last couple of updates. I am excited to watch this one move along.

Been missing seeing you at the Niftee 50ees. Been there about every weekend. Now get that thing finished so you can park it out there with mine. :)

I am trying man I assure you. I have one month to get this car all put back together dropped it off to the shop last night. Lot to do on this car to make power tour just have to hope can make it. Only thing on my side is I have all the parts already to get it going. With replacing all the floor boards and trunk wiping out my paint budget will be while to get the car repainted but at least now I know the car has solid floors and everything now is fresh motor, transmission, and now rear end. Going be a ugly duckling for a while but at least will be able to drive it which is what have wanted since December when I purchased it. Lol

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[aany001]

This thing is just down right bad a$$ !!!! Get it done and drive the wheels off it. Paint looks awesome just the way it is. Don't have to worry about scratching it lol. I love the year color and wheels!!!!!!

[Juicypop]

This thing is just down right bad a$$ !!!! Get it done and drive the wheels off it. Paint looks awesome just the way it is. Don't have to worry about scratching it lol. I love the year color and wheels!!!!!!

Thanks for the kind words the one thing have going for me is that rock chips or anything else occurs while driving will not matter for now. I am trying to get this car put back together as soon as possible. Lot of work still!

[Zspoiler]

You have a very nice car to begin with.And you just improved it.You can do the paint later on if and when you can afford it.Just take it out and enjoy it.

[will69camaro]

Love it.

[Juicypop]

You have a very nice car to begin with.And you just improved it.You can do the paint later on if and when you can afford it.Just take it out and enjoy it.


That is the new plan of action. LOL

Love it.

Thanks Will appreciate it!

[Juicypop]

Stopped at the shop and is finally going back together. Pretty confident will make the power tour now.

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[pro66tour]

Very good news! Looks great bud:thumbsup:

[Juicypop]

Very good news! Looks great bud:thumbsup:

Thanks brother.

Well ran into a road block and just will not have the car done before the power tour. Interior guy did not finish the back seat and ripped the head liner. Then rock valley who made the fuel tank forgot to send some parts so waiting on them. Shop who is working on the car two employees have not been there in over week which understand there house got flooded and had to evacuate there family. Guess was not meant to go on the power tour am bummed cause sure wanted to go and was reason bought this car but is always next year. I am thankful my house has not been impacted and family is safe not like others in this area so have to be thankful for. Buddy offered let me borrow his car but man cannot drive something that does not belong to me and would feel horrible if something happened to his baby.

[syborg tt]

Rent a new Camaro and call it plan B.

Do the tour you will still have a blast.


Marty-MJ

[Juicypop]

Rent a new Camaro and call it plan B.

Do the tour you will still have a blast.


Marty-MJ

I looked online and due to all this weather says cannot confirm car status due to availability from storm. I will continue to try.

[syborg tt]

I was looking a Porsche in Houston and the dealer said that it's no longer 4-Sale. I can only assume its wet


Marty-MJ

[rickpaw]

I looked online and due to all this weather says cannot confirm car status due to availability from storm. I will continue to try.

Too bad your Camaro won't be ready for PT. Take your daily if you can't get the rental (whether it's a Camaro, Mustang, Challenger), and call it plan C.

[Zoomin]

I had to throw in the towel on doing the PT as well. Not only did I not have the car ready, but can't get away from work now. As they say, there's always next year.

[will69camaro]

Story identical to mine. Car isn't ready and really cant take off work. I'm going to hit Houston and TRY to make Austin but not even sure I can get that Monday off...

[Juicypop]

I was looking a Porsche in Houston and the dealer said that it's no longer 4-Sale. I can only assume its wet


Marty-MJ

Very good chance we have received tons of rain!

Too bad your Camaro won't be ready for PT. Take your daily if you can't get the rental (whether it's a Camaro, Mustang, Challenger), and call it plan C.

Crossed my mind. LOL

I had to throw in the towel on doing the PT as well. Not only did I not have the car ready, but can't get away from work now. As they say, there's always next year.

Next year will not come fast enough. LOL Hate to hear that though brother hope your car is coming along fast though!


Story identical to mine. Car isn't ready and really cant take off work. I'm going to hit Houston and TRY to make Austin but not even sure I can get that Monday off...

Every time I see you and nine balls car makes me want to repaint mine orange again. Such sicks cars and make me think mine would look great that color again. When I save enough money to paint guess will tackle that sure hope that goes better than anything else have experienced with this car. LOL

[will69camaro]

Every time I see you and nine balls car makes me want to repaint mine orange again. Such sicks cars and make me think mine would look great that color again. When I save enough money to paint guess will tackle that sure hope that goes better than anything else have experienced with this car. LOL

He has a painter, not happy with mine. Mine will be getting painted again down the road. Mine is far from what I would consider "nice."

[Juicypop]

He has a painter, not happy with mine. Mine will be getting painted again down the road. Mine is far from what I would consider "nice."

Sorry man looked great to me but know pics sometimes do not show everything but as stated sick build and love to see them in person some day.

[Juicypop]

Back to the drawing board I am swapping shops due to the shop have been using guess just forgot to work on my car. So am going to swap shops next week and hope to actually get this thing finished.

I have the car at another shop at the moment getting custom brake lines, fuel lines, power steering lines, and a/c lines all installed on the car. While I was there took some pics underneath of the car before it gets undercoated. Anyway learning that just buying one of these cars for sale on the site would of been a easier option. LOL I am not giving up though just yet.

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[WSSix]

Glad to see progress being made on the car. Hope you have smooth sailing ahead!

[QuickTrick]

Very nice! Will be following. and looking forward to updates!

[Get' er done]

In the pictures above I can't tell if it is an optical illusion but it looks like the panhard bar is not level by a large amount. Does the bar have enough adjustment to get it level? From my limited knowledge on suspensions I think the location of the bar sets the rear roll center. If it is not level the car will roll different amounts for say a left corner compared to a right corner. I am just learning about suspensions so if I have this wrong please correct me.

Lance

[Juicypop]

Glad to see progress being made on the car. Hope you have smooth sailing ahead!

Thanks brother
Very nice! Will be following. and looking forward to updates!

Thanks will try to keep pics posted

In the pictures above I can't tell if it is an optical illusion but it looks like the panhard bar is not level by a large amount. Does the bar have enough adjustment to get it level? From my limited knowledge on suspensions I think the location of the bar sets the rear roll center. If it is not level the car will roll different amounts for say a left corner compared to a right corner. I am just learning about suspensions so if I have this wrong please correct me.

Lance

I am not sure what to say do know what a panhard bar is. LOL I know that the car has not had any suspension adjust just installed so we could move the car around.

[98ssnova]

It's the bar that run across the rear end diagonally. I would ask Speedtech if it is installed correctly. Looks like the bracket was installed to high. I could be wrong but looking at some of their gallery photos it is different. maybe its the angle of the photo. But like I said I would at least call them or PM Blake and see what he says.

[Juicypop]

It's the bar that run across the rear end diagonally. I would ask Speedtech if it is installed correctly. Looks like the bracket was installed to high. I could be wrong but looking at some of their gallery photos it is different. maybe its the angle of the photo. But like I said I would at least call them or PM Blake and see what he says.
Thanks for the advice I will do that for sure.

[WSSix]

In the pictures above I can't tell if it is an optical illusion but it looks like the panhard bar is not level by a large amount. Does the bar have enough adjustment to get it level? From my limited knowledge on suspensions I think the location of the bar sets the rear roll center. If it is not level the car will roll different amounts for say a left corner compared to a right corner. I am just learning about suspensions so if I have this wrong please correct me.

Lance

Good eye. You're correct. A panhard bar is to be level with the ground when the car is at ride height in order to prevent it from behaving differently going around right versus left turns. I hate to say it but it does look like something was installed wrong there. I don't see how it can be adjusted enough to get the bar level.

[Juicypop]

I have the car at another shop now getting brake lines, fuel lines, a/c lines, and power steering lines installed and made. When I get it back to my new shop will get some better pictures and have him look at it. If it is installed wrong I know Rick will fix at Rick Stevens race cars by all means. Just my luck with this car been one thing after another. LOL

[Get' er done]

I have the car at another shop now getting brake lines, fuel lines, a/c lines, and power steering lines installed and made. When I get it back to my new shop will get some better pictures and have him look at it. If it is installed wrong I know Rick will fix at Rick Stevens race cars by all means. Just my luck with this car been one thing after another. LOL

Hopefully it is installed correctly but if not it's better to find out now with it fresh in your installers mind.
With myself on setbacks, I know I'm going to have them because I have never done this before. I will try to not have them but, I will manage and accept them when they happen so as not to take the fun out of it. What do they say "It's the journey not the destination". Or something like that. Anyways keep up the progress it's looking good.

[Juicypop]

In the pictures above I can't tell if it is an optical illusion but it looks like the panhard bar is not level by a large amount. Does the bar have enough adjustment to get it level? From my limited knowledge on suspensions I think the location of the bar sets the rear roll center. If it is not level the car will roll different amounts for say a left corner compared to a right corner. I am just learning about suspensions so if I have this wrong please correct me.

Lance

It's the bar that run across the rear end diagonally. I would ask Speedtech if it is installed correctly. Looks like the bracket was installed to high. I could be wrong but looking at some of their gallery photos it is different. maybe its the angle of the photo. But like I said I would at least call them or PM Blake and see what he says.

Thanks for the advice I will do that for sure.

Good eye. You're correct. A panhard bar is to be level with the ground when the car is at ride height in order to prevent it from behaving differently going around right versus left turns. I hate to say it but it does look like something was installed wrong there. I don't see how it can be adjusted enough to get the bar level.

I have the car at another shop now getting brake lines, fuel lines, a/c lines, and power steering lines installed and made. When I get it back to my new shop will get some better pictures and have him look at it. If it is installed wrong I know Rick will fix at Rick Stevens race cars by all means. Just my luck with this car been one thing after another. LOL

Hopefully it is installed correctly but if not it's better to find out now with it fresh in your installers mind.
With myself on setbacks, I know I'm going to have them because I have never done this before. I will try to not have them but, I will manage and accept them when they happen so as not to take the fun out of it. What do they say "It's the journey not the destination". Or something like that. Anyways keep up the progress it's looking good.

Message from Rick Stevens who did the install.

The installation was done as per the instructions that came with the kit. Yes the pan hard bar should be as close to level as possible to prevent side to side movement of the rear housing as it travels up and down. There are adjustments for that, but we didn't try to set everything up exact, because the car wasn't finished and final ride height wasn't determined yet. The brackets that were provided will only go on one way, and they are from a reputable company, so I seriously doubt you have anything to worry about. When it's all finished up, we will do a final setup and scale, and get everything adjusted properly.

[Juicypop]

Picked up a sweet score yesterday. Looks like this car will be ls powered after all. Bought a ls7 from a local member yesterday best part had the flywheel and harness for my 4l80e.

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[will69camaro]

Congrats!!! Ls7 is no joke!

[Juicypop]

Congrats!!! Ls7 is no joke!

Thanks brother I definitely feel like I got a upgrade.

[grendel]

Glad you got it... if not, I was going to :)

[grendel]

When he started posting the accessory pics with the harness, etc, it got to be a screaming deal.

[Juicypop]

Glad you got it... if not, I was going to :)

When he started posting the accessory pics with the harness, etc, it got to be a screaming deal.

Thanks brother trust me I did not want to spend the money right now but had no choice with what all it included. HAHA Got very lucky that day.

[speed_m5]

Gonna be a Bad Bitch when finished for sure

[Juicypop]

Well has been a while since I posted anything but my new mechanic has really been getting things done. He has fixed lot of issues from the other shop did bad work on and corrected all those mistakes. Car is still not running but is finally looking like a car again. Here is some pics from the last month my new mechanic works and works on my car on the side when he is off. I am happy with that because what work he does do to the car is done right which is something have not had before. LOL

We pulled the sbc out of the car and installed the ls7 I bought recently. We converted the ls7 from dry sump to wet sump. The accessory drive that came with the ls7 was for a impala ss which was for a low mount drive. I had to buy the high mount brackets so everything would fit right on my car. While the motor was out we undercoated all underneath the car since replaced all trunk, floor boards, and everything else earlier in the build.

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We installed ring brothers door hinges on the car who I bought from a member on here.


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Finally installed the fesler trunk hinges on the car.

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First time the car seen the light of day in probably two months. I know it is a ugly duckling but will have be this way for a while. I have talked to about ten paint shops in Houston who people referred and everyone of them said six to eight months. I know I may be in the wrong business but understand there is a reason they are that busy I guess so will just have stay like this for a while.


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I had Keith at custom works make some gauges from speed hut with there bezel. I like the way they came out I play pool so maybe not for everyone but that is what I like to do so added little 8 ball on the tach. They will light up blue and red at night.


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I had Roger at emblem pro make be some new emblems for the car which he did a real good job. Going paint this car silver when the paint shop can get to it so think these will look real good on that color.


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We hope have the car running in next four to six weeks. I have had this car since December and my goal was to take it on the power tour. That did not happen then it was to take to good guys in Fort Worth in October which did not happen. My new goal is to have it running before my daughters birthday in November around thanksgiving.

[Zoomin]

Sure doesn't look like an ugly duckling to me.

[Juicypop]

Sure doesn't look like an ugly duckling to me.

Thanks man but moving shop to shop and all things being replaced has been beat up pretty good. At this point do not care what it looks like I just want it to be able to drive it. LOL

[will69camaro]

Sounds exactly about how I feel about my car. Not pretty but just wanna drive it!

[Juicypop]

Sounds exactly about how I feel about my car. Not pretty but just wanna drive it!

My car is not even close to your zip code. LOL I just cannot wait till that day comes when it is able to be driven. I also cannot wait till the day comes that my bank account does not decline in price everyday. LOL

[will69camaro]

Feel that pain, and i feel like i'm close to the end and it's ramping up again it seems on the misc ****.

I'm "done" then there's 1-2k in parts ordered to "finish" and more left...

[Juicypop]

Feel that pain, and i feel like i'm close to the end and it's ramping up again it seems on the misc ****.

I'm "done" then there's 1-2k in parts ordered to "finish" and more left...

LOL guess that is the feeling we get used to.

[DKz Garage]

Project is moving along nicely..... looks great!!

[Juicypop]

Project is moving along nicely..... looks great!!

Thanks a lot man doing all we can.

[glassman]

Nice meeting you at the show!!

Looking forward to your progress......:thumbsup:

[woody80z28]

Looking good! That rear ride height is awesome.

[Juicypop]

Nice meeting you at the show!!

Looking forward to your progress......:thumbsup:


You to brother! Car looks great love that color.

Looking good! That rear ride height is awesome.

Thanks brother.

[Intimidator3]

What the sh*t!? This think is looking great! What a score on the LS7! Can't wait to see it on the road! Wow, it has come a long way! Way to go!!

[Juicypop]

What the sh*t!? This think is looking great! What a score on the LS7! Can't wait to see it on the road! Wow, it has come a long way! Way to go!!

Thanks brother trust me there is no one more excited than me to here this bitch fire one time. Has been a nightmare but finally starting to see the light. :G-Dub:

[Juicypop]

Well the car finally got into the chassis shop so they could finish adjusting the torque arm and adjust all the coil overs. I am also having them fab a custom cold air intake because of the clearance issues of the radiator just real tight so they are going fab one up. I am also having them make a seat belt bracket for the rear for daughters car seat. Still lot to do but is starting to see the light and may be able to fire it up for the first time when it returns from the chassis shop and gets back to my mechanic. I will try to take some more pics when I get back to the chassis shop.

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[Juicypop]

Chassis shop just finished adjusting the pinion angle and set the ride height with me in the car for the coil overs. They also custom fab'd a cold air intake but is at the powder coaters. Car is going back to my mechanics shop to hopefully be put together complete and fire up we hope.

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[98ssnova]

I would like to see that the final set up of your torque arm. Just curious.

[rickpaw]

Car is looking great. You're getting there.

What's with the RC planes in the back ground? Your chassis guy is a flyer?

[will69camaro]

Lookin good man!

[Juicypop]

I would like to see that the final set up of your torque arm. Just curious.

When get back to shop get you some pics.
Car is looking great. You're getting there.

What's with the RC planes in the back ground? Your chassis guy is a flyer?

That is the guy lives next door of chassis guy.
Lookin good man!

Thanks man your car sounds awesome glad to see it on the road.

[WSSix]

Nice stance! Congrats on getting this far.

[Juicypop]

Nice stance! Congrats on getting this far.

Thanks brother

[Josh@Ridetech]

Great looking car. It makes me want a 2nd gen even more :thumbsup:

[Juicypop]

Great looking car. It makes me want a 2nd gen even more :thumbsup:

Thanks brother appreciate the kind words.

[Juicypop]

Well car should be on the road very soon. Going to exhaust shop today and then to the tuner on Friday. Hopefully everything goes smooth.

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[Juicypop]

Some more pics.

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[Zoomin]

You're just about there, and man does it look sharp! Perfect timing too.

[Juicypop]

You're just about there, and man does it look sharp! Perfect timing too.

Thanks brother!

[kbclamper]

engine compartment looks great

[glassman]

Looks great man!!! Great to have you back....

[Juicypop]

engine compartment looks great
Thank you have tried my best to make this build as smooth as possible but we all know that does not happen. LOL

Looks great man!!! Great to have you back....

Never left just ran into issues as always. LOL

[WSSix]

Looking good! We need some information on that late 2nd gen Z, too.

[Juicypop]

Looking good! We need some information on that late 2nd gen Z, too.

Car on the top is my mechanics wifes car. Know is a late model super clean camaro with a small block and custom interior. Very clean car.

[Juicypop]

I had a local guy in Baytown ,TX do the exhaust took some work to get through the torque arm but he managed to get it done. All 3" and we used four magnaflow bullet mufflers and ran it out the back.

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I had Billy Whatley at Motorsports Technologies (MTI) tune the car. We struggled with lot issues in the beginning but he managed to get it all dialed in. He is going to retune it in couple weeks once get some miles on the motor. It made 436 rwhp going through the 4l80e and bolt on ls7 am happy with that for sure.

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[Juicypop]

The car is on the road been driving last couple days since we had great weather. I have one of the best mechanics he does great work he is honest really appreciate all he did for me to get this car on the road. Has been a long process of trial and error but am happy to get through it all.

I am going to save for paint due to so far over budget on this car never know what you buy until you take all a part. Glad I know now it is a solid car and have replaced just about anything I could. Put all the stereo stuff in it last night so will try get some pics of that but other than that this is how the car will be till can afford to paint it. I already have all new quarter panels, trunk, and know where some new doors our may purchase just want make the car look slick when I do paint it when ever that may be. Anyway thanks for everyone else on the board who have answered my p.m.s and questions for this noob. See you on the power tour or cruising the coast!

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[aany001]

Wow just went through your build thread and love what you have done to it. She looks bad a$$. Don't worry about the paint. Trust me your gonna have way more fun and be way more relaxed cruising it just the way it is. Besides it looks outstanding just the way it is. Now go leave some black marks every chance you can lol.

[Che70velle]

Great job on this! Car looks great, and 436 to the wheels is certainly no slouch. Just in time for great weather, enjoy it!

[Juicypop]

Wow just went through your build thread and love what you have done to it. She looks bad a$$. Don't worry about the paint. Trust me your gonna have way more fun and be way more relaxed cruising it just the way it is. Besides it looks outstanding just the way it is. Now go leave some black marks every chance you can lol.

Thanks a lot for the kind words. We left rubber all over last night haha

Great job on this! Car looks great, and 436 to the wheels is certainly no slouch. Just in time for great weather, enjoy it!
Going through a 4l80e I am happ with that. Weather has been awesome here car is fun to drive that is for sure. Appreciate the kind words.

[Tinker]

Nice work. How does the car sound? I have been contemplating adding a second set of straight thru mufflers at the tailpipe. I have flowmasters ending before the axle and its not very conducive to conversation inside the car on the road.

[tmadden]

Car turned out great. Enjoy the hell out of it.

[will69camaro]

Nice meeting you yesterday at Royal Purple / Viper Nationals. Good to put faces to names. Car looks like it's come a long way and the stance/wheels are PERFECT.

Keep plugging away, it's looking nearly complete! Enjoy it a while before putting it in paint jail, and if you need a local recommendation, let me know.

[Juicypop]

Nice work. How does the car sound? I have been contemplating adding a second set of straight thru mufflers at the tailpipe. I have flowmasters ending before the axle and its not very conducive to conversation inside the car on the road.

It did quiet it down quite a bit and buddy of mine rolled doing 70 with windows down could still hold conversation. With them up is very quiet for 3" exhaust.

Car turned out great. Enjoy the hell out of it.

Thanks brother!

Nice meeting you yesterday at Royal Purple / Viper Nationals. Good to put faces to names. Car looks like it's come a long way and the stance/wheels are PERFECT.

Keep plugging away, it's looking nearly complete! Enjoy it a while before putting it in paint jail, and if you need a local recommendation, let me know.

Thanks alot Will very nice meet you in person also. Was some great cars at the track yesterday for sure glad I went.

[Zoomin]

I wouldn't be in any hurry to paint it either, looks cool as it is. Enjoy the heck out of it!

[Juicypop]

I wouldn't be in any hurry to paint it either, looks cool as it is. Enjoy the heck out of it!

We our went to a meet about 45 miles from the house Friday, car show by my house Saturday, and Viper nationals yesterday. Uncle took some pics of the car and his car together.

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[Zoomin]

Man, your car stands up tall!:confused59:

[Juicypop]

Man, your car stands up tall!:confused59:

Thanks brother!

[MtotheIKEo]

Car looks great! Good to see you're enjoying it and putting it to use.

[Juicypop]

Car looks great! Good to see you're enjoying it and putting it to use.

Thanks for the kind words had couple little issues pick it up tomorrow from the shop. Hope to cruise it around this weekend with the sunny weather we our supposed to have.

[will69camaro]

Going to cars and coffee? I'll be there.

[waynieZ]

You did a great job, sweet ride!

[Juicypop]

Going to cars and coffee? I'll be there.

MTI supposed have my car rolling again and supposed pick it up today. Long as that goes smooth I planned on going.

You did a great job, sweet ride!

Thanks brother!

[Juicypop]

Going to cars and coffee? I'll be there.

Rear end blew up on the dyno good news is tuner said made 80 more rear wheel horse power bad news rear end is gone. This car hates me! :morepower

[will69camaro]

Damn! What broke in rear??!?

I got mine setup for flex fuel today. Wiring it tomorrow after c&c.

[Juicypop]

Damn! What broke in rear??!?

I got mine setup for flex fuel today. Wiring it tomorrow after c&c.

Not sure going to tow it to Pyle Brothers Monday.

[spinedoc]

I have enjoyed reading your thread. The car looks to be a great package.
Are the seats you have the corvette ones you bought or another set? Thanks.
Eric

[Juicypop]

I have enjoyed reading your thread. The car looks to be a great package.
Are the seats you have the corvette ones you bought or another set? Thanks.
Eric

The seats in my car from a 5th gen camaro and I recovered them. Thanks for the kind words!

[Juicypop]

Still buying parts for the old hunk of junk for when I finally shut it down for paint. 1650 miles strong still working couple little things but we our getting closer every week. Lost my job which slowed things down little bit but am back to working a new job so hope to have it painted next summer when it is to hot to drive it in this weather in Texas.

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[Juicypop]

After two years of waiting the car finally got dropped off at the paint shop. Car will have new quarter panels, roof skin, door skins, header panel, fenders, trunk, and flat hood now. Going paint it torch red with no stripes. I think with the flat hood no stripes on this car looks simple and clean may regret it later but went with my gut.

[sleepertime]

The car is looking good, hopefully you have most of the mechanical gremlins sorted out. It will be interesting to see what issues will come up post paint.
Did they give you any estimate on body and paint work?

:flag2:

[will69camaro]

NOOooooo Keep it Orange!!!

[syborg tt]

Looking forward to seeing it in red.

My next car will be Porsche Guards Red.


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