crank case ventilation.

[Grnova]

i need to run a PCV on my ls2 but am having a problem figuring out how to go about it.

In the picture below it shows a port on the drivers side vale cover( green cap on it) and also a vacuum port on the back of the blower intake.

Also on the second picture I have another port on the rear of the supercharger intake and a plugged fitting on passenger side valve cover.

What are people using and how do I run the PCV system?
Let me know if further info is required thanks- Tim

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[GregWeld]

Tim --- two things have to happen --- in order to draw air (PCV) thru the motor - you need INCOMING AIR from one side of the motor -- and draw it out via a PCV (a valve or otherwise known as a controller vacuum leak) and recycle it into the intake to be returned.

Without making this super complicated --- OIL in the intake air reduces octane -- and will oil up your blower etc. You don't really want to do that.

In order to recycle the crankcase oily air - you'd want to add a "catch can" to separate the oil out of the air.

Now -- in a blown situation -- you must be careful to understand what's INTAKE or vacuum side of that blower vs - POSITIVE pressure (blower or pressurized side)....

What many people do is to just remove the valve covers (or buy new ones that already have) and add a bung and a -12 AN line and just vent this to a catch can with a small air cleaner on it. Thus eliminating the recirculation of the oily air altogether. It just simply vents to atmosphere. Once in awhile you have to drain the catch cans as they accumulate oil.

I didn't read this article -- but it might help you understand what you need to do



http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/1406-venting-to-cure-crankshaft-pressure/#__federated=1

[GregWeld]

BTW --- I just put a dual catch can set up from Radium Engineering on my BLOWN Toyota motor in my Lotus 2 11 track car --- and that system is really a oil separator that uses the existing system. I was getting a lot of oil blow by collecting in the air to air intercooler. Not the mention I don't want to reduce the octane of the fuel etc.

[Grnova]

Thanks Greg I was thinking about going with a duel system as well I was just confused on where to grab what from which side of the intake. I shortened up the in take a considerable amount and welled the throttle boy on the rear. I do not want to run a vacuum pump so was trying to see what others have done. Thanks- Tim

[dhutton]

Some good info in here:

http://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-2273-arrington_ccv_bible.pdf

I was looking at this dual can for my LSA:

https://www.rxperformanceproducts.com/product/catch-can-kits/#reviews

Don

[Grnova]

Some good info in here:

http://www.shophemi.com/images/media/p-2273-arrington_ccv_bible.pdf

I was looking at this dual can for my LSA:

https://www.rxperformanceproducts.com/product/catch-can-kits/#reviews

Don

Wow nice product and great read I saved it to my ibooks library- thanks

The problem I have is that there is no fitting before the throttlebody ...just the two in the intake.

[Che70velle]

I bought this fitting that replaces the oil cap on my LS valve cover. It simply screws on, just like my oil cap, has an o-ring for a leakproof seal, and doesn't require any welding or fabrication. It has a -10 outlet which allows you to route a -10 hose over to your catch can, or separator. Check out the link...


http://www.mtiracing.com/valve-cover-filler-cap-adapter-to-10.html

[waynieZ]

Here's something that shows how important these are for boosted engines.

http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/elite-engineering-catch-can/
These are the ones I'm using for my motor. I just hope my oil never looks like that!

[GregWeld]

Wow nice product and great read I saved it to my ibooks library- thanks

The problem I have is that there is no fitting before the throttlebody ...just the two in the intake.

That sounds like something a girl would say.... That's not a "problem" - that's just an item that could be easily rectified with a bit of hot rodding... You know - like taking some stuff apart and adding whatever is needed! LOL

[waynieZ]

Weld if your ever near Mass we got to meet up..................

[Grnova]

That sounds like something a girl would say.... That's not a "problem" - that's just an item that could be easily rectified with a bit of hot rodding... You know - like taking some stuff apart and adding whatever is needed! LOL

Thanks I know all about taking things apart and putting it back together my way! Lol

[GregWeld]

Weld if your ever near Mass we got to meet up..................




HAHAHAHAHAHA DEAL!!

[Grnova]

So I have read a lot about crankcase ventilation and decided to try venting both valve covers to filtered catch cans. Hope this works!

[GregWeld]

So I have read a lot about crankcase ventilation and decided to try venting both valve covers to filtered catch cans. Hope this works!



That's the direction I'd go.... Try to use -12 lines and fittings if you can. Let the air out!!

DO NOT oil the little K&N style filter! It needs to flow freely.

[Grnova]

So to update I pulled the trigger and ordered a Monster can fromhttp://www.rxperformanceproducts.com RX Performance. Tom and Tracy are great guys to work with and came up with a kit specifically for my application. They also have a clean sideswipe raptor that goes in place of the oil fill cap on the valve cover and my valve covers being from Holley they are making one that will screw into the Holley style hole. I will continue as soon as the kit arrives.

[Grnova]

Got the catch can yesterday here is what I came up with... thoughts?

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[canrc]

Hey Tim,

I have the same setup as you and I have attached an image on what I had done -- I have since switched to a Holley Dominator ECU and don't have the MAF but with the roots style blower I didn't have to relocate any of my lines, I also ended up running a -8 for the clean side separator.

The tank works great! good choice.

Raj

[Grnova]

Thanks for the diagram. I'm glad this is the same way I have mine.


What type of salve covers are you running, I have the Holley valve covers and am waiting for the adapter for the clean side separator to come in.

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[canrc]

I have a set of the Wegner Billet Valve covers, I did have to weld in a baffles onthe inside of the valve covers but they work great.