New rules/classes

[DBasher]

http://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us/experience/power-source/2015-rules-optimas-search-ultimate-street-car

Everyone happy? Haha!

Still waiting for the dates and locations.....

[Ron in SoCal]

Dates and locations courtesy of Rodney:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205470689037078&set=gm.1747682802124478&type=1&relevant_count=1

http://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us/experience/power-source/2015-schedule-optimas-search-ultimate-street-car/

[SSLance]

I like the changes... Added a vintage class and took away all the aero. Not too sure about long sleeves and pants for autocross and speed stop but so be it. Love that they mandated 5 point belts for expert group.

[Van B]

I saw the aero rule, but was confused by the four points a,b,c, and d underneath. What does that mean?

[LS7 Z/28]

I like the changes... Added a vintage class and took away all the aero.
It doesn't sound like they took away all the aero they are just limiting the size of spoiler or wing you can run.
I saw the aero rule, but was confused by the four points a,b,c, and d underneath. What does that mean?

They are telling you that all factory aero is legal no matter if it's significantly better than the rule-set below.

You can still build a custom spoiler or add a wing, it just has to abide by the size and dimension rules of each class. The vintage class has the most leeway to counter poor factory aerodynamics.

They only touched on dimensions and size for spoilers so I assume all other forms of aero. Splitters, Side skirts, Diffusers etc. Are not allowed which is frustrating. Hopefully someone will weigh in here from USCA.

[Smittys67]

Front splitter side skirts so on are allowed. But are not removable for part of the event. Must run splitters in all portions.

[LS7 Z/28]

Front splitter side skirts so on are allowed. But are not removable for part of the event. Must run splitters in all portions.

Thank you Chris, that sounds fair.

[ironworks]

The rules seem very fair. I just hope they can keep the priority on the vintage cars since they now have 4 classes. Without making it a vintage only race which has much too small of a draw and with the corvettes having an aero and weight advantage I would think the fastest class will get the most attention. But we shall see, Watching new cars race around the track does not spark the interest that the vintage cars will so this might help to continue to spark more interest in vintage cars and Pro-touring.

[Ron in SoCal]

Front splitter side skirts so on are allowed. But are not removable for part of the event. Must run splitters in all portions.

They can just call it the Danny Popp rule. :D I think he ran a diff version of his splitter for the AutoX and roadcourse? :stirthepot:

I think Cam and Jimmy did a good job given all the discussion after this year's event. I wonder if Brian Hobaugh's vette rear spoiler is within spec? Also given that the first event is a couple months away, those that were building a car for the 2014 rule set may need to get humping to make some changes. I'm referring to those guys between 3000 and 3199 lbs.

But WTH do I know. I'll keep my eyes open for a Good Aero wing in the classifieds. :lmao:

[Ron in SoCal]

Also, I would think the factory Porsche GT3s would have the aero advantage this year. :BlahBlah:

[SSLance]

This is a pretty big change as well no?

Non-sponsor company decals are allowed but must not exceed 50 square inches.

[Ron Sutton]

They can just call it the Danny Popp rule. :D I think he ran a diff version of his splitter for the AutoX and roadcourse? :stirthepot:

I think Cam and Jimmy did a good job given all the discussion after this year's event. I wonder if Brian Hobaugh's vette rear spoiler is within spec? Also given that the first event is a couple months away, those that were building a car for the 2014 rule set may need to get humping to make some changes. I'm referring to those guys between 3000 and 3199 lbs.

But WTH do I know. I'll keep my eyes open for a Good Aero wing in the classifieds. :lmao:

Ron ... the drivers just need eat more cheeseburgers & pizza. :)

[Ron Sutton]

My hats is off to the USCA guys & gals. They created great events people flocked to, listened to the participants, made classes for different levels of cars, got the aerodynamics in hand, improved safety & continue to make this series better.

If you haven't looked, see the new rules HERE (http://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us/experience/power-source/2015-rules-optimas-search-ultimate-street-car/).

:cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

Ron ... the drivers just need eat more cheeseburgers & pizza. :)

In that case I'm set! :goggles:

[GrabberGT]

Arg!!! First Im hit by the SCCA and their 108" wheelbase rule and now USCA and their 3200lb rule. At least this isnt such a stretch :mock: to fix. I assume ballast weight is allowed. I should only have to put the rear seat and subwoofer back in and have a full tank of gas. Im at 3150 without them and a 1/2 tank.

I like the new rules and classes. It should keep things fun and guarantees a place for the pro-touring/older cars to be competitive.


The D&E rules are interesting:

I wonder what style door bars you can have and still get points for "driver and passenger ease of ingress and egress"

This should be fun.

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[Che70velle]

Arg!!! First Im hit by the SCCA and their 108" wheelbase rule and now USCA and their 3200lb rule. At least this isnt such a stretch :mock: to fix. I assume ballast weight is allowed. I should only have to put the rear seat and subwoofer back in and have a full tank of gas. Im at 3150 without them and a 1/2 tank.

I like the new rules and classes. It should keep things fun and guarantees a place for the pro-touring/older cars to be competitive.


The D&E rules are interesting:

I wonder what style door bars you can have and still get points for "driver and passenger ease of ingress and egress"

This should be fun.

Participants choice - determined by popular participant vote – includes all entries


Yeah Chris, 8 more gallons of gas should get you there, but then again, I'm not sure what size tank, or cell you have. Did you contact SCCA directly concerning the wheelbase issue?

[71RS/SS396]

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[Ron in SoCal]

Forum Wars, lol:

https://www.change.org/p/usca-ousci-rules-committee-add-a-new-class-that-allows-aero-for-the-2015-season

[mike343sharpstk]

Can you advise the advantage of being in the over 3,200 pound class?

what's the weight of all the heavy hitters In the now vintage class? I would think all the gen II Camaros with full cages would be over 3,200.

I could see going against the 2-seaters with a pony car would be a loosing battle in the 2014 sub 3,000 pound class, but it looks like the two seaters are in a separate class for 2015.

Edit: just re-read the classes, 2-seater class is 1990 and newer.

[DBasher]

I'm thinking the GTL class is going to be the one to watch in the next couple of years. No kit cars but lil featherweights with tires and hp...shut the front door!
Craig510's lil monster along with V8 imports will be a hoot to watch, the CanAm of OUSCA!

I'm liking the rules,:thumbsup: still don't think 1989 is the proper cutoff but it's not my show and I'll continue to support the series.

[MattO]

Looks like I have about 8 weeks to learn to drive and then make it to Thunder Hill...

[GregWeld]

Looks like I have about 8 weeks to learn to drive and then make it to Thunder Hill...




The BEAUTY of these events -- is that they supply (have in the past - thanks to Jet-Hot) driver instructors free of charge for newbs.

It's like Charley told me when I bought the Mustang from him. "EVERYONE starts somewhere" <end quote>... Just getting started is good enough! Get out there and enjoy!! You'll be blown away by how much fun you'll have!

[GregWeld]

That says a lot right there! LOL


Sadly - Rule #5 knocks me out before I get to read much further! DOH! Oh yeah -- it's a STREET CAR event. DOH.






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[DBasher]

That says a lot right there! LOL


Sadly - Rule #5 knocks me out before I get to read much further! DOH! Oh yeah -- it's a STREET CAR event. DOH.

Time for another "redeuce" Quit staring at it and just call Ron and get the parts coming! Coil overs, wheels and tires...what else, a couple bars in the interior? It's too easy! :poke:

[GregWeld]

Time for another "redeuce" Quit staring at it and just call Ron and get the parts coming! Coil overs, wheels and tires...what else, a couple bars in the interior? It's too easy! :poke:




Oh --- I must have misread your name! I was pretty sure is said DBastard.

[glassman]

Also, I would think the factory Porsche GT3s would have the aero advantage this year. :BlahBlah:

Well, sadly, I'm goin for it this year. I can't believe that my car would be even in the same sentence as a GT3, other than the word car.

My car is currently tore up, the heads and cam won't be done in time, i won't know how to drive it with the new rear at T-hill, heck may not even be done in time. But I'm all in.

I think in the 5 catagories of points, 3 of them are "just get the job done as quickly as you can!", is that still correct?

But this event/genre is exactly what i built the car for. To street drive it, Race it, and enjoy the "F" out of it....

Good luck to all participating this year, and remember to "keep her slideways"

:gitrdun: :G-Dub: :superhack:

[pro68chevelle]

I think they did a good job with the Aero rules!

[MattO]

The BEAUTY of these events -- is that they supply (have in the past - thanks to Jet-Hot) driver instructors free of charge for newbs.

It's like Charley told me when I bought the Mustang from him. "EVERYONE starts somewhere" <end quote>... Just getting started is good enough! Get out there and enjoy!! You'll be blown away by how much fun you'll have!

There's a very good chance I'll be there. I need to get some new rubber for the truck and get my shifter set up finished so the slush box behaves itself and I should be good to go. If nothing else, I'll turn tires to smoke like it's no one's business but my own. Everyone who's ever seen Top Gear knows that tire smoke = fast :G-Dub:

[rustomatic]

I'm sure you'll survive, Glassman--I may come out to watch. I'm curious as to where they'd do the autocross part at Thunderhill...

Well, sadly, I'm goin for it this year. I can't believe that my car would be even in the same sentence as a GT3, other than the word car.

My car is currently tore up, the heads and cam won't be done in time, i won't know how to drive it with the new rear at T-hill, heck may not even be done in time. But I'm all in.

I think in the 5 catagories of points, 3 of them are "just get the job done as quickly as you can!", is that still correct?

But this event/genre is exactly what i built the car for. To street drive it, Race it, and enjoy the "F" out of it....

Good luck to all participating this year, and remember to "keep her slideways"

:gitrdun: :G-Dub: :superhack:

[57hemicuda]

My life is finally getting back to normal, well as normal as my life can be. This year should be able to make some events, and I'm hoping to get back on my AMX and have it ready for this year. Thank goodness that my brother from another mother (Jimi Day) didn't make some funky class which had he and I running with pre 90 AMC built with 2 seats, no aero, 14" tires, tinted glass, aluminum engine, plastic grilled, etc., etc., etc. Thanks for keeping it simple Jimi, seriously. My pea brain appreciates the simplicity.

[glassman]

I'm sure you'll survive, Glassman--I may come out to watch. I'm curious as to where they'd do the autocross part at Thunderhill...

Theres a plain area used for "drifting" to the left as you drive in, kinda near the gas pumps. My "guess" is it will be there. My question on T-hill was/is the road rally, yes there are roads, but nothing like some of the epic roads/scenery of Laguna/Portland/LA (well kinda lol)...

[GrabberGT]

Front splitter side skirts so on are allowed. But are not removable for part of the event. Must run splitters in all portions.

I know Chris is one of the inner-circle guys in our sport and would like to take his word for it but I sure wish this information was reflected in the rules. My car never came with the chin spoiler option but Im sure as heck not going to take it off. That would look funny. I was planning on fabbing some side skirts (more for style than function) and chin splitter as well.

I'm thinking the GTL class is going to be the one to watch in the next couple of years. No kit cars but lil featherweights with tires and hp...shut the front door!
Craig510's lil monster along with V8 imports will be a hoot to watch, the CanAm of OUSCA!

I'm liking the rules,:thumbsup: still don't think 1989 is the proper cutoff but it's not my show and I'll continue to support the series.

This is what I was thinking. The overpowered lite weight stripped down all-wheel drive racers will be in GTL. Maybe if they had a GTV-L.

[DBasher]

Dang Chris now you've got me cornfused....I read it that AWD would be in GTS. Now I'm seeing anything under 3200lbs is GTL. Hopefully the Subies and Evos are heavy pigs, I want to see light weight 2wd cars!
With the heavy hitters in GTV would it make more sense to shed some more weight and run in GTL? That's what I would be looking at if I was close to weight......and had a car that was ready.......and thought I was actually competitive. :lmao:

[GrabberGT]

Dang Chris now you've got me cornfused....I read it that AWD would be in GTS. Now I'm seeing anything under 3200lbs is GTL. Hopefully the Subies and Evos are heavy pigs, I want to see light weight 2wd cars!
With the heavy hitters in GTV would it make more sense to shed some more weight and run in GTL? That's what I would be looking at if I was close to weight......and had a car that was ready.......and thought I was actually competitive. :lmao:

Im not competitive anyway so I may just bring it and let them place me wherever. Its going to look funny as the only Muscle Car (yes I know its debatable) running amongst the Miatas, Vettes, and Evos.

[DBasher]

I just Louggled the Evo and WRX specs, stock curb weight on both is under 3k....oh well. GTV will still be fun to watch. Chris you still have the baddest vega around! :D
:thumbsup:
Damn Bastard

[BMR Sales]

They got rid of the Florida Events!:relax:

[MattO]

I'm sitting down figuring out my budget to be able to go to this and it's making me sad.

Any of you rich(er) old guys looking to adopt? I'm 27, well mannered, handy with a wrench, and, most importantly; house broken.