Finally.. some REAL progress on Penny..

[XcYZ]

Nice! It's the details like that that define the craftmanship in a build.

[fatlife]

Nice! It's the details like that that define the craftmanship in a build.
:thumbsup:

[Payton King]

I tried the same thing and decided that it was too much work, good for you. I moved my alternator to the front of the head on the passenger side. I guess you would like to keep the stock routing for maybe a...blower?

[Steve1968LS2]

I tried the same thing and decided that it was too much work, good for you. I moved my alternator to the front of the head on the passenger side. I guess you would like to keep the stock routing for maybe a...blower?

Hmmm a blower.. that would be nice :)

I just like OEM stuff.. it's proven and easy to fix down the line.

Update: engine is wired. Damn, the Speartech harness was almost too easy to install. everything was the right length and it all just plugged in. Sweet.. Today we finish the fuel system and install the radiator.

[XcYZ]

That's a killer picture, Steve.

[syborg tt]

Steve,

What color is your manifold ?? is it Powder or Paint

[Payton King]

How is the header fitment now?

[rockdogz]

Hmmm a blower.. that would be nice :)

I just like OEM stuff.. it's proven and easy to fix down the line.

Update: engine is wired. Damn, the Speartech harness was almost too easy to install. everything was the right length and it all just plugged in. Sweet.. Today we finish the fuel system and install the radiator.
Ok, that's not even fair... you should have cut off a few wires just to make it interesting... :D


Looking great, BTW!!

[Steve1968LS2]

How is the header fitment now?

Perfect.. working out the crossmember issue and we should be good to go. The headers are a tight fit but they do. Just make sure you mask off, pad and otherwise protect stuff.. it's easy to scratch stuff up.

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve,

What color is your manifold ?? is it Powder or Paint

It's a paint FAST 90 intake.. it's Nissan Silverstone Silver (WV2).. the same paint I used for the stripes on my blue '69.

[Steve1968LS2]

Ok, that's not even fair... you should have cut off a few wires just to make it interesting... :D

Looking great, BTW!!

I was worried about the wires.. anyone that knows these modern engines knows what a birds nest it can be. The speartech harness was very clean and while it's not wired like a showcar with every wire dress and placed just so it still looks very clean. the main harnesses tucked in nice between the Katech coil racks and the FAST fuel rails.

Installed the AFCO radiator, catch can and relay. Needed fittings so we got sorta stuck on the fuel system. Soooooo close :)

This was the hardest fitting so far.. what a PITA..

[71Nova]

How exciting!! It's getting so close to being done!! Man I bet you cant wait to drive her!!

[Steve1968LS2]

So close.. fender are ON.. :woot:

Just need the valances, hood and to figure out the front wheels :D

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/soclose.JPG

Won't be toooooo long now..

Need to have it assembled by the 9th for a "paint booth" cover photo shoot..

[zbugger]

Looks good Steve. But just imagine how that would look with a black engine compartment. The damn thing would look like a jewel in there. You know I'm never gonna quit bugging you about that, right?

[Steve1968LS2]

Looks good Steve. But just imagine how that would look with a black engine compartment. The damn thing would look like a jewel in there. You know I'm never gonna quit bugging you about that, right?

You're right.. the next black car I build is getting a black engine bay!!

Actually, I think I will do the Fairlane's bay in black ;)

Modern engines look better in a matched bay. Now is when someone will post a pic of Fuel to prove me wrong.. :rofl:

Hmmm.. you're name is zBUGGER, so yes.. I know you won't quit bugging me about it..

[71Nova]

Personally I like the engine compartment color matched the way it is. I was thinking the radiator support should be painted to match as well, but black might look better threw the grill. I would need to see the radiator support painted both ways to know which I like better. She's coming along and looking great!

David

[71Nova]

Steve are you going to keep the cowl ind hood or change it?

[mazspeed]

So close.. fender are ON.. :woot:

Just need the valances, hood and to figure out the front wheels :D

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/soclose.JPG

Won't be toooooo long now..

Need to have it assembled by the 9th for a "paint booth" cover photo shoot..

That thing looks sweet. Can't wait to see it.

[fatlife]

Looks good Steve. But just imagine how that would look with a black engine compartment. The damn thing would look like a jewel in there. You know I'm never gonna quit bugging you about that, right?
+1, so I guess the whole "streetfighter" idea blew right out the window along with the budget :lol: sorry Steve, streetfighters don't have color cordinated suspension links, frames and springs :D Really though it looks killer! I'm gonna do my inner fender wells body color too, can't stop the bling now I already got sucked in a long time ago :_paranoid . You must be really anxious now that its this far along. BTW did we hit post #300 yet? :hail:

[68protouring454]

heres fuels engine bay
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/826/mac043dv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Steve1968LS2]

heres fuels engine bay
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/826/mac043dv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

See, .. he color matched his engine bay also.. :lol:

[zbugger]

See, .. he color matched his engine bay also.. :lol:
Not quite genius. The engine compartment might be black too, but it's not gloss like the exterior. That alone makes a difference, and yes, I think the engine stands out better in there.

[Steve1968LS2]

Not quite genius. The engine compartment might be black too, but it's not gloss like the exterior. That alone makes a difference, and yes, I think the engine stands out better in there.

There was an engine in there?

:lol:

What's funny is that the only reason car companies used to paint the bays black was because it was cheap.. the same reason they paint them body color today.

[fatlife]

are you telling us or trying to convince yourself?? :D :P it is what it is, it looks nice to me.

[Steve1968LS2]

are you telling us or trying to convince yourself?? :D :P it is what it is, it looks nice to me.

Ummm.. no :) -- you guys seem to more importance into the color of an engine bay then I do.. :shrug:

I do think it's funny when people use a black car with a black engine bay to make a point that black is better. It's like when the guy showed me a black car with a black vinyl roof to convince me to keep the white top on my blue car. lol

It is what is.. I like color matched engine bays and I'm not really fond of black. Put those together and my choice (to me) was a no brainer.

I have to go snap some pics today (i didn't take that one) since we had to trim the inner fenders to fit around the suspension. I thought that's sorta important for the story.

My Fairlane will be here Saturday.. woo hoo.. this WILL be together by the 9th. Light at the end of the tunnel

[XcYZ]

Cool, how about some video on the 9th? :thumbsup:

[Steve1968LS2]

Cool, how about some video on the 9th? :thumbsup:

Of the photo shoot? It's just for a "paint and body" cover deal..

When she hits the road there will be video.

Oh, Here's a better shot.. I don't regret going body color :)

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/BadPenny.jpg

[Diognes56]

When she hits the road there will be video.

Oh, Here's a better shot.. I don't regret going body color :)

Sweet shot. I definitely think you made the right choice going body color. That engine bay is CLEAN :yes: . Can't wait to see it in PHR :thumbsup: .

David

[XcYZ]

When she hits the road there will be video.

Great. :thumbsup:

[SN65]

Are you happy with the hood hinges?

[Steve1968LS2]

Are you happy with the hood hinges?

So far, haven't put the hood on yet.. lol

They sure are nice looking. Everytime I look at them I think of the T100 from Terminator..

[radrambler]

steven

damn.. your engine bay looks awesome.....ARE YA PROUD ?
THATS CAR PORN AT ITS BEST....LOL

NICE WORK
radrambler

[fatlife]

#283, almost there! :D

[GHOSTDANCER]

Beautiful machine - the color rocks :bow:

[Leadfoot1]

Hey Ghost,

It seems you're waking up all the old threads....I had not received so many follow ups from so many different threads in a long time. (This thread here don't coun't...its a daily dose)

Sooo might as well say it, Welcome aboard!
.................................................. ........
#285 Fatlife!
.................................................. ........

Steeve, i have the last pic you posted of your engine as a my wallpaper...Can't take my eyes off of it! That pic really makes the difference!

Are your valve covers from Nastyperformance? Shure makes it look better!

Lead.

Is there like, a detailed break down list of the things you dit to the engine?
Mods, finishes, brackets, pulleys etc.

[Y-TRY]

Man, that car is off the hook! I really like body-color bays also, but probably won't do it with mine. My only reason is that I drive the pee out of it, regularly spewing fluids all over and I won't feel like going at it with a toothbrush everytime I drive it. Black hides more dirt :_paranoid

[Steve1968LS2]

Man, that car is off the hook! I really like body-color bays also, but probably won't do it with mine. My only reason is that I drive the pee out of it, regularly spewing fluids all over and I won't feel like going at it with a toothbrush everytime I drive it. Black hides more dirt :_paranoid

If you think "black hides more dirt" then you are in for a surprise.. colors like pewter hides dirt.. This is an OEM color and certainly nothing fancy. If I crinkle a fender it can easily be color matched.

Now for the update,

Figured out the front wheel size. Now we just have to ship the them back to Forgeline so they can "adjust" them. It's 18x9 with a 6.5" backspace.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pentire.jpg

And here she is as we finished up for the morning... need to lower the back down a bit. Install the grill and voila! it just might be a car.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/penny27.jpg

With the hood on we were able to check out where to mount the aero-catch hood pins. The problem is that the catch (which requires a large hole) would need to mount in the most PITA place in the hood. Installing would require a lot of metal work to make look right from the inside. Since I am quickly running out of $$$ I will revisit this idea someday. We were hoping it would fall in flat place on the hood, but no luck.

[fatlife]

:cool:

[Blown353]

With the hood on we were able to check out where to mount the aero-catch hood pins. The problem is that the catch (which requires a large hole) would need to mount in the most PITA place in the hood. Installing would require a lot of metal work to make look right from the inside. Since I am quickly running out of $$$ I will revisit this idea someday. We were hoping it would fall in flat place on the hood, but no luck.

I haven't looked under the hood of a 1st gen F-body in a while, but what if you fab some nice core support to fender braces and mount the pins on those? That *should* put the latches out of the way of the stamped bracing around the perimeter of the hood.

[Steve1968LS2]

I haven't looked under the hood of a 1st gen F-body in a while, but what if you fab some nice core support to fender braces and mount the pins on those? That *should* put the latches out of the way of the stamped bracing around the perimeter of the hood.

hmmm.. I will take a look. The might look funny that far up the hood but it might work. Good idea.

Still the piggy bank is getting low.. gotta stay near budget. Especially with a new "mouth to feed" lol

[Blown353]

I know what you mean about the aerocatches being rather large. They're cool but take up a lot of real estate! I have a set sitting here on my desk that will end up on my new hood sooner or later, once my heat extractor vents from Maier Racing get here and I get off my butt and order a new glass or CF hood to put the vents into.

I may end up selling the aerocatches though, as I'm leaning towards a pin on hood for function over form. It's so much easier working under the hood when you can just take the hood off and set it aside yourself. :P

[Steve1968LS2]

I know what you mean about the aerocatches being rather large. They're cool but take up a lot of real estate! I have a set sitting here on my desk that will end up on my new hood sooner or later, once my heat extractor vents from Maier Racing get here and I get off my butt and order a new glass or CF hood to put the vents into.

I may end up selling the aerocatches though, as I'm leaning towards a pin on hood for function over form. It's so much easier working under the hood when you can just take the hood off and set it aside yourself. :P

Yea, but it's a PITA if you just need to pop the hood quickly to check something.. by yourself.. lol

Everything has trade-offs involved.. :yes:

[fatlife]

yeah, wouldn't be great if the wind caught the hood and blew it away!................#293

[Steve1968LS2]

We're almost there Cody.. :woot:

lol

Here are some pics from yesterday.. the black close-off has been added along with the hood. I will have to modify it since my radiator cap is on the drivers side.. damn cars!

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/badgirl.jpg

And how she looks.. still need to suck the front wheels in (at Forgeline) to accomodate the C5 suspension. Oh, and the back needs to come down with the coil overs.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/badgirl2.jpg

[GHOSTDANCER]

Krazy Kool :bow:

[XcYZ]

The RA1's in 335's look massive.

[camcojb]

work of art Steve, I'm impressed.


Jody

[Blown353]

Looks great... but now with the black radiator closeout you really need to black anodize those hood hinges IMO. They are an "attention getter" over the rest of the engine because the bright finish is out of place with the rest of the color scheme.

[Steve1968LS2]

Looks great... but now with the black radiator closeout you really need to black anodize those hood hinges IMO. They are an "attention getter" over the rest of the engine because the bright finish is out of place with the rest of the color scheme.

With the raw aluminum radiator and silver the intake the non-polished hood hinges blend in good.

In the pics they sorta bling because they catch the flashes.. :)

Maybe someday I will rip them apart and do it, it certainly is NOT an easy task..

[mazspeed]

Not bad for a 68. :drive:

[awr68]

Looks HOT Steve, the new hood alone is a big improvement! I can't wait to hear how you like the Wilwoods...since I have the same and plan to run them with no boost...it's getting real close!!!

[Stuart Adams]

Hey Steve, are you going to lower the rear a bit?

[Steve1968LS2]

Hey Steve, are you going to lower the rear a bit?

They are coil-overs.. and if they don't adjust down enough I will just swap in shorter springs.

Looks HOT Steve, the new hood alone is a big improvement! I can't wait to hear how you like the Wilwoods...since I have the same and plan to run them with no boost...it's getting real close!!!

I ran the same deal on my '69.. worked great :)

[fatlife]

looks great, now go to costco and buy a box of toothbrushes to clean everything once it gets dirty :lol:

[Steve1968LS2]

looks great, now go to costco and buy a box of toothbrushes to clean everything once it gets dirty :lol:

Couldn't we just split a box bling-boy???


:rofl:

[fatlife]

:D you paying?

[fatlife]

BTW I don't like that DSE panel, but yours does look good in the flat black, nice choice :thumbsup: enginebay is looking killer

[fatlife]

So is it running yet?

[Leadfoot1]

Yeah!

How about a clip from the first start up? 'I think we deserve it! This is almost like having a baby!!!!!

We've been there all along...Lets see it come to life now!
(And don't tell us you wouldn't want us in the delivery room....You invited us!)

:D

Lead.

[Steve1968LS2]

Yeah!

How about a clip from the first start up? 'I think we deserve it! This is almost like having a baby!!!!!

We've been there all along...Lets see it come to life now!
(And don't tell us you wouldn't want us in the delivery room....You invited us!)

:D

Lead.

It started a while ago.. running will require some tuning :)

Here's the vid..

http://www.lateral-g.org/movies/penny.wmv

[novanutcase]

Any way we can get a photo of how you got the alternator to fit?

[Leadfoot1]

Thanks for the vid Steeve. It sounds Bad A$$!

I meant to get back at ya but....forgot and had erased the link.

Now, i wanted to ask....'Can we get a new one on a Wild Burnout???(Donuts and all)

Hey, i ask and receive, never know!!! :lol:

Great job man! :thumbsup:

Lead.

[Steve1968LS2]

Now, i wanted to ask....'Can we get a new one on a Wild Burnout???(Donuts and all)


Well, we are going to fully test the car.. so a burnout will be needed for the drag racing part :)

Here's some more car porn.. :lol:

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/engine90.jpg

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/engine91.jpg

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/artsy.jpg

[Steve1968LS2]

Any way we can get a photo of how you got the alternator to fit?

See post #250.. it has a picture :)

It was tough.. I detail it in part one of the engine install story (feb issue).

Had to make a custom line for the steering rack since it didn't let the alt sit all the way back. Then I had to shorten the stud on the back of the alternator by 1/4 inch. It's a pretty tight fit but looks great now and very "tucked away".

[novanutcase]

I saw that post but was wondering if you had it with the alternator installed also or did I miss something in the photo? What is the plastic cup with the hose next to the proportioning valve. Is it a reservoir of some sort? :) Is the belt tensioner Katech also? What happen to the Fuel pressure gauge you had on the fuel rail?

God, the engine is art! Steve you are only allowed to tune it. No Driving it! You'll ruin it! :lol: I put your engine as my desktop for inspiration!

[fatlife]

Dang, that looks pretty damn good. You know what, that blue car looked really good too, even though this one was supposed to be more streetfighter (and it isn't lol ) it looks really nice also, just give in to the bling, you know you want too you seem to be good at coordinating a nice underhood. Where did those fender bolts come from, those are a nice touch. ALso what are you going to do for the air intake?

I think a big rectanlgle scoop in the lower valance(similar to the brake ducts you had, but one big one in the middle) would be a good intake, then have the pipe come straight up from underneath between the waterpump and radiator, and then have a 90 degree elbow off the TB going straight down. Not sure if it could be done without hindering ground clearance, but then you wouldn't have that ugly pipe going across the engine bay. The setup would be simliar to a Grand National sorta

[Steve1968LS2]

Dang, that looks pretty damn good. You know what, that blue car looked really good too, even though this one was supposed to be more streetfighter (and it isn't lol ) it looks really nice also, just give in to the bling, you know you want too you seem to be good at coordinating a nice underhood. Where did those fender bolts come from, those are a nice touch. ALso what are you going to do for the air intake?

I think a big rectanlgle scoop in the lower valance(similar to the brake ducts you had, but one big one in the middle) would be a good intake, then have the pipe come straight up from underneath between the waterpump and radiator, and then have a 90 degree elbow off the TB going straight down. Not sure if it could be done without hindering ground clearance, but then you wouldn't have that ugly pipe going across the engine bay. The setup would be simliar to a Grand National sorta

See, you see street fighter as being almost rat rod.. I just see it as being purpose driven. Low on the luxuries and function over form. I just don't think it needs to look ratty to have a purpose :)

Oh, and my chrome bill is ZERO and my polish bill is.. well.. $5.. lol

The bolts came form www.hillcofasteners.com them make them in a variety of colors and sizes. I haven't figured out the intake yet. I want something simple. Was most likely just gonna make a tube to go into the drivers side front fender area and then have the tube and elbow coated in the titanium stuff like the header.. low bling :) -- I like your idea and I will look at doing that. I don't mind the intake (like the coil packs) since it's part of the deal.. I just want to make sure it's as low gloss as possible.

I have a 3000lb (i hope) 500+ hp car with no heat, no ac, no radio, no wipers and not even a key to start it running on R-compound tires.. to me that's streetfighter'esk.. lol

I just can't seem to build a "rough" looking car.. guess I'm too picky. Thanks for the comments though :)

[Steve1968LS2]

I saw that post but was wondering if you had it with the alternator installed also or did I miss something in the photo? What is the plastic cup with the hose next to the proportioning valve. Is it a reservoir of some sort? :) Is the belt tensioner Katech also? What happen to the Fuel pressure gauge you had on the fuel rail?

God, the engine is art! Steve you are only allowed to tune it. No Driving it! You'll ruin it! :lol: I put your engine as my desktop for inspiration!

That's the resevoir for the clutch, I put a spun aluminum cover on it.. Yep, Katech tensioner and I am still fabbing the fitting for the fuel pressure guage. The car alread has one back by the tank and one on the interior.. would be nice to have one in the bay as well.

Nah.. driving the car won't hurt the engine bay and the quarter panels are XPEL'd to protect from rocks.. lol

[novanutcase]

Looks like it would be kind of tricky with the fan, radiator hose and sway bar in the way.

[novanutcase]

I love the way you used the billet caps. Very Cool!

[mia]

how did you mount the coils? did you fab up something or is that a kit?

[fatlife]

Looks like it would be kind of tricky with the fan, radiator hose and sway bar in the way.
Maybe oval exhaust tubing would work

[Steve1968LS2]

Maybe oval exhaust tubing would work

not a bad idea.. then it would match my exhaust.. hmmm...

how did you mount the coils? did you fab up something or is that a kit?

From Katech Engine Development.. nice stuff..

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Steve what are those allen head type bolt things holting your finder on up top?

thanks
Paul

[Leadfoot1]

how did you mount the coils? did you fab up something or is that a kit?

If i may;

http://www.nastyperformance.com/Valvecovers.html

Nice stuff there too.

Lead.

[Steve1968LS2]

If i may;

http://www.nastyperformance.com/Valvecovers.html

Nice stuff there too.

Lead.

The ones at the very bottom of the page are sweet.. and the same idea as the Katech ones. Although the covers seem "shorter"..

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve what are those allen head type bolt things holting your finder on up top?

thanks
Paul

A little combo of parts I came up with for my '69 Camaro.. there are actually four parts to it.

1. large alumunum angled flat "washer"
2. smaller counter sunk aluminum washer
3. chrome AN washer
4. chrome button head allen bolt

Each combo ends up costing over $6.. but you only need four and they look so sweet. I get them for a local place called www.hillcofasteners.com

[Leadfoot1]

I LOVE the "Fabbed" look....But now that i've seen your engine done....I'm thinking to get some fabbed ones (taller + cheaper) and getting them coated.

A friend just bought a powder coating kit and is looking for parts to do :D

Lead.

[Bowtieracing]

Any way we can get a photo of how you got the alternator to fit?


See post #250.. it has a picture :)

It was tough.. I detail it in part one of the engine install story (feb issue).

Had to make a custom line for the steering rack since it didn't let the alt sit all the way back. Then I had to shorten the stud on the back of the alternator by 1/4 inch. It's a pretty tight fit but looks great now and very "tucked away".

I can say it really is "tucked away" indeed. .I can hardly see it at all :D

Heres the pic at post #250
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=4709

[Sales@Dutchboys]

A little combo of parts I came up with for my '69 Camaro.. there are actually four parts to it.

1. large alumunum angled flat "washer"
2. smaller counter sunk aluminum washer
3. chrome AN washer
4. chrome button head allen bolt

Each combo ends up costing over $6.. but you only need four and they look so sweet. I get them for a local place called www.hillcofasteners.com

Thanks I Appreciate it.

[mia]

I have only seen c5-r valve covers with "Covette C5-R" on them. did you have that removed?

[Steve1968LS2]

I have only seen c5-r valve covers with "Covette C5-R" on them. did you have that removed?

No, you can order them blank or custom engraved.. :)

[Steve1968LS2]

I can say it really is "tucked away" indeed. .I can hardly see it at all :D

Heres the pic at post #250
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=4709

:lol:

That was to show you what I had to do to run the alternator there ... :yes:

[mia]

Anyway you can let me know where I could get a set?

[novanutcase]

Can we see it with the actual alternator installed?

[Steve1968LS2]

Anyway you can let me know where I could get a set?

Katech Engine Development :)

[Steve1968LS2]

Can we see it with the actual alternator installed?

Ask and thou shall recieve..

Here you can see how tight it was.. but it's nice once done..

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/alt1.jpg

Here it is from the front.. just a standard fbody braket..

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/alt2.jpg

[Bowtieracing]

Steve that is a beautifull installation!!!!!! :thumbsup:

Is the alternator stock fbody ?

[novanutcase]

Pheeewwww!!! That is tight! Great install and great idea on the S/S hose! :bow:

Thanks for the photo too! Now I see what you mean!

[novanutcase]

It looks like all the pulleys and tensioners are from an LS1. Was this done for alignment purposes?

[Steve1968LS2]

It looks like all the pulleys and tensioners are from an LS1. Was this done for alignment purposes?

The LS1 pulley system is just a nice compact unit. The vette unit tosses the alternator up high and to the side and I don't like that look as much. I want the accesories to be low-key.

The downside to the f-body system is AC. It wants the AC compressor on the lower passengers side of the engine, but most subframes don't want it there.

I also like using OEM pulley systems. They can look nice if worked with and they are a proven design. I also never have to worry about replacement parts. The balancer in an SFI ATI unit without the part for AC. It has the right alignment for the LS1 stuff and it only weighs 4.5 lbs.

It's a Powermaster alternator but it's dimensionally identical to an LS1 alt.

[novanutcase]

Steve,

thanks for the quick reply and, once again, your car is AWESOME!

John

[Steve1968LS2]

Newest trinket.. The perfect compliment to the billet hinges. I had the spring thermal coated to tie into the headers and intake tube.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/latch.jpg

Still waiting on the wheels to come back..

[camcojb]

Newest trinket.. The perfect compliment to the billet hinges. I had the spring thermal coated to tie into the headers and intake tube.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/latch.jpg

Still waiting on the wheels to come back..

where'd you get that? :)

Jody

[Steve1968LS2]

where'd you get that? :)

Jody

What's it worth for you to find out??? :lol:

j/k.. Kyle at DSE.

If enough people ask for them then they might make them. They go great with the hinges.

And I hate how the stock ones get beat looking after some use.

[syborg tt]

wow are those nice

?? what did you ever do with your Aerocatch latches ?

[Steve1968LS2]

wow are those nice

?? what did you ever do with your Aerocatch latches ?

Maybe I will use them on my Fairlane. Cutting them into the Camaro hood was just too big a PITA and at this point I just want the car done.

[syborg tt]

Maybe I will use them on my Fairlane. Cutting them into the Camaro hood was just too big a PITA and at this point I just want the car done.

lol - i understand i would love to have my project done and over width. I promise the next one won't be as crazy. Something more streetable.

[Leadfoot1]

lol - i understand i would love to have my project done and over width. I promise the next one won't be as crazy. Something more streetable.


.....Just a suggestion. Print this in bold, cut it out... and stick it somewhere in your garage so you remember it!

:lol:

We always say stuff like that don't we....Its the part of actually DOING (or not doing) it thats hard!

Lead.

[Ricochet]

Steve-

Looks absolutley stunning. Penny took a turn for the better in a big way!! Your attention to detail is second to none. Look forward t oseeing it in person sometime.

A little combo of parts I came up with for my '69 Camaro.. there are actually four parts to it.

1. large alumunum angled flat "washer"
2. smaller counter sunk aluminum washer
3. chrome AN washer
4. chrome button head allen bolt

Each combo ends up costing over $6.. but you only need four and they look so sweet. I get them for a local place called www.hillcofasteners.com


Another alternative for those intersted in fender washers is to use stringer washers from boats. I have been using these for years. You can buy them is various colors. I normally use a chamfering (spell??) tool and use a counter sunk allen. Very similar to what Steve has done. Once again Steve, looks killer!!!

http://www.eddiemarine.com/cart/details.asp?SubCategoryID=566&CategoryID=131

Brent

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve-

Looks absolutley stunning. Penny took a turn for the better in a big way!! Your attention to detail is second to none. Look forward t oseeing it in person sometime.

Another alternative for those intersted in fender washers is to use stringer washers from boats. I have been using these for years. You can buy them is various colors. I normally use a chamfering (spell??) tool and use a counter sunk allen. Very similar to what Steve has done. Once again Steve, looks killer!!!

http://www.eddiemarine.com/cart/details.asp?SubCategoryID=566&CategoryID=131

Brent

Yea, noticing stuff is my strong area. It's also a curse since I notice every single imperfection in anything I look at.

I was brutal when I was a judge for the RG Canning shows many moons ago.. lol

[Steve1968LS2]

And I might as well toss out an update.. still waiting for the wheels to get done..

Almost looks like a flying car.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/jacked2.jpg

[SN65]

Looks just fantastic. Love the color. You should be very proud.

[XcYZ]

Killer stuff, Steve. The article in the February issue of PHR was awesome, too. :thumbsup:

[Speedster]

That is just a sick ride Steve. I don't what lights it's under in the pics, but that paint absolutely POPS. Very straight. Can't wait to see it hit the road.:thumbsup:

[Steve1968LS2]

Killer stuff, Steve. The article in the February issue of PHR was awesome, too. :thumbsup:

Funny story. The whole install was supposed to be in Feb. I ended up asking to split it into two stories because there was so much info. The problem was that I only had one lead shot. I scrounged around and decided to use that shot in the feb issue for a lead. The real lead shot will be in the March issue (part 2)

I almost screwed myself by spliting the story. Johnny was like, where's the lead and I was.. "uhh, ummm"

[Steve1968LS2]

That is just a sick ride Steve. I don't what lights it's under in the pics, but that paint absolutely POPS. Very straight. Can't wait to see it hit the road.:thumbsup:

It's a funny color. with no strong light on it the color looks like a dirty old Penny. When strong light hits it all the gold comes out and it's pretty freaking amazing.

You know, it looks like a show car in the pics but in real life the paint is 8 on a 10 scale and panel fitment is certainly not show car worthy. But, I hope it makes up for all that in attitude. I plan on driving this thing alot and hard, so I didn't want to spend a bundle making technically perfect except for the engine bay. I would stack the bay against most cars.

I am still working out what I'm gonna do with the interior.

[black2002ls]

This is awesome. It has given me new inspiration for my 1/12th scale 69. I am in the process of duplicating your wheels and tires now!

[SN65]

When installing your glass, did you do anything special to finish off the gap between the trim and the body?

We always fill the gap with strip caulk. It takes about a day to do both the front and rear windows, but it gives the car a clean finished apperance.

[Roger Poirier]

It's a funny color. with no strong light on it the color looks like a dirty old Penny. When strong light hits it all the gold comes out and it's pretty freaking amazing.

I am still working out what I'm gonna do with the interior.

Yeah, a lot of people have moved to that color since you first posted that car. Back in the day....... :lol:

The interior, you did right by your old blue Camaro. Less is more for that entire build! The meanness is what sticks out on that ride.

R.P.

[Roger Poirier]

This is awesome. It has given me new inspiration for my 1/12th scale 69. I am in the process of duplicating your wheels and tires now!

Don't boost that guys ego any more! :rolleyes:

R.P.

[Steve1968LS2]

Don't boost that guys ego any more! :rolleyes:

R.P.

Some story of a pot and kettle talking comes to mind.. give me a minute, I will think of it..



:lol:

[Steve1968LS2]

Yeah, a lot of people have moved to that color since you first posted that car. Back in the day....... :lol:

The interior, you did right by your old blue Camaro. Less is more for that entire build! The meanness is what sticks out on that ride.

R.P.

Something very simple and OEM looking. I know there will be no center console. The guage/switch deal will stay and the long parts of the roll bar will be wrapped in black leather. Headliner will be stock and the carpet will be an original style cut. No back seat and the circle track mirror.

The door panels are still under consideration.

[Roger Poirier]

Some story of a pot and kettle talking comes to mind.. give me a minute, I will think of it.. :lol:

That's a good one!

R.P.

[Steve1968LS2]

That's a good one!

R.P.

Thought you would like that.. lol

Just because this pic isn't in this thread..

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pennypaint.jpg

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pennypaint.jpg

[GHOSTDANCER]

Absolutely PERFECT :thumbsup:

[Jr]

Hi Steve,
Do you have a pic of the car with the proper hide height? I remember a pic that had the a$$ end high in the air...
Thanks, David

[Steve1968LS2]

Hi Steve,
Do you have a pic of the car with the proper hide height? I remember a pic that had the a$$ end high in the air...
Thanks, David

Well the pic above is pretty close. I won't have the stance nailed until I get the wheels back from Forgeline and install the new (shorter) rear springs.

When we had the 3-link installed and were waiting for shocks the back sat REAL high.

[Mean 69]

A little birdie told me that the new springs are sitting at the shop awaiting install. When are the wheels coming!?

The car was calling out to me when I stopped by the shop today. It was saying "let me out from under this cover, I want to play....." Soon Penny, soon.

M

[XcYZ]

I won't have the stance nailed until I get the wheels back from Forgeline and install the new (shorter) rear springs.

What spring rate did you go with?

[Steve1968LS2]

A little birdie told me that the new springs are sitting at the shop awaiting install. When are the wheels coming!?

The car was calling out to me when I stopped by the shop today. It was saying "let me out from under this cover, I want to play....." Soon Penny, soon.

M

I know.. I am so ready to have this car done.. I think I will call Forgeline today. Holidays really slow down the process.. Get my message?

What spring rate did you go with?

600 lb front and 200 lb rear

[rwhite692]

Steve I just now had a chance to look at the current PHR and the buildup / LSx swap photos. You did a great job with all the detailed info.

I'm concerned about your oil pressure sender, actually that small 45 deg fitting that you used in order to angle it away from the header...that fitting is going to break. The mass of the sender is too much for it, under vibration. (Think bowling ball stuck on the end of a broomstick).

You might need to use a brass "block" style 45, or try to find some way to support the pressure sender "can", or, find somewhere else on the engine to pick up oil pressure...

I only tuned into this because I had this happen to me once. It was not good.

-Rob

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve I just now had a chance to look at the current PHR and the buildup / LSx swap photos. You did a great job with all the detailed info.

I'm concerned about your oil pressure sender, actually that small 45 deg fitting that you used in order to angle it away from the header...that fitting is going to break. The mass of the sender is too much for it, under vibration. (Think bowling ball stuck on the end of a broomstick).

You might need to use a brass "block" style 45, or try to find some way to support the pressure sender "can", or, find somewhere else on the engine to pick up oil pressure...

I only tuned into this because I had this happen to me once. It was not good.

-Rob

Thanks, I will look into that. Maybe a small bracket to support the sender. I'm pretty sure there are some mounting points on the block for one. This should take pressure off the sender.

With today's technology I am also surprised at how big these damn senders are..

[rwhite692]

Yes you could tack a small strip of metal to the body of the sender can, which could be configured to reach a nearby unused threaded hole in the block, if there is one nearby...

[Steve1968LS2]

Yes you could tack a small strip of metal to the body of the sender can, which could be configured to reach a nearby unused threaded hole in the block, if there is one nearby...

There is.. I went over some pictures.. Thanks again! Easy to miss stuff in the big picture..

[Bowtieracing]

I had to read this all over again.Great build up. Have you driven it yet Steve?

Check you PM Steve-few questions:thumbsup:

[Steve1968LS2]

I had to read this all over again.Great build up. Have you driven it yet Steve?

Check you PM Steve-few questions:thumbsup:

ha! no :(

Actually Forgeline called me yesterday, my wheels are done and on their way back here. Once they get here the car goes to alignment, exhaust, tune, interior (in that order)

Then just a few minor wiring deals and it's done!!! Hopefully soon I will be on the road.

[Leadfoot1]

Steve,

I'm curious...What is it you had done to your wheels? Refinish, repair or what!?

Its been awhile they have them so i'm starting to be asking what the...

Lead.

[Bowtieracing]

ha! no :(

Actually Forgeline called me yesterday, my wheels are done and on their way back here. Once they get here the car goes to alignment, exhaust, tune, interior (in that order)

Then just a few minor wiring deals and it's done!!! Hopefully soon I will be on the road.


Oh i am sorry for asking:(

Do you plan on making feature(in phr) of installation of interior and small stuff ? I am sure that would be intresting.:cheers:

[Steve1968LS2]

Oh i am sorry for asking:(

Do you plan on making feature(in phr) of installation of interior and small stuff ? I am sure that would be intresting.:cheers:

Not really, it doens't really have any relevance to someone other guys car since mine is so "one off".

Guess I could do the exhaust system as a story, maybe tuning.

The next big "for sure" story will be track testing and of course the obligatory car feature.

For the title I'm thinking either "Bad Girl" or "Going for Broke" .. The later one seems appropriate since I am.. lol

[Roger Poirier]

The next big "for sure" story will be track testing and of course the obligatory car feature.


Honey, where are my boots? It getting real deep in here! :rofl:

R.P.

[71Nova]

Steve I gotta let you know, Ever since I saw in the march PHR that Penny has been at don Lee I take a hard glance at don Lee's shop every time I drive down foothill just in case she is there. Some day, some day. I only live about 5 miles away. :_paranoid

[Steve1968LS2]

Honey, where are my boots? It getting real deep in here! :rofl:

R.P.

What? lol

It's magazine etiquite to do a feature on project cars when they are done. Actually Super Chevy wanted it, but it's a PHR car.

Oh, I got your CD, but I need another one with HIGH RES pictures. I will send the this CD over to the Performance Pontiac guys :thumbsup:

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve I gotta let you know, Ever since I saw in the march PHR that Penny has been at don Lee I take a hard glance at don Lee's shop every time I drive down foothill just in case she is there. Some day, some day. I only live about 5 miles away. :_paranoid

Unfortunatly, by the time you see it in the magazine the event is long past. I will be there in next few weeks with my Fairlane to do suspension and brakes stories. If you're in Rancho then you will see the car eventually. I plan at being at every event I can get to this summer. If the car is gonna be back over there I will shoot you a PM.

[CHAZMO1986]

Steve, I Am Not Sure What Else To Say, About Your Car Besides The Fact That Is Totally Bad To The Bone, I Love It

[DriverzInc]

Steve,
Your car is looking awesome. I should stop by one day and check it out. I haven't been by since the blue car. Also, I sent you a PM about something else.

Talk later,

[Bowtieracing]

Steve can i bother you again...:unibrow:

I have been reading this all over again and read all my PHRs wich feature penny but cant find any pic where you have mounted ecm and where the harness goes thru firewall ?

:cheers:

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve can i bother you again...:unibrow:

I have been reading this all over again and read all my PHRs wich feature penny but cant find any pic where you have mounted ecm and where the harness goes thru firewall ?

:cheers:

My harness goes through the trans tunnel above the bellhousing and toward the passengers side just a bit. The ECM is mounted where the heater core would normally go. Before painting the firewall I welded in a offset plate so there would be a place to mount the ECM without putting holes in the firewall.

When the car gets home I will get some pics and post them. Oh, my wheels are set to be delivered today :woot:

[SteveMcqueenRules]

I love this car. i love the articles in PHR about it. I cant find anything wrong with it cept make it a 69 and I would get the powersteering cap milled like a penny and coated copper colored and then I would sell it to me for a penny.
seriously though the colors on everything are great I love the engine color scheme.

[Steve1968LS2]

I love this car. i love the articles in PHR about it. I cant find anything wrong with it cept make it a 69 and I would get the powersteering cap milled like a penny and coated copper colored and then I would sell it to me for a penny.
seriously though the colors on everything are great I love the engine color scheme.

The penny idea is cool.. hmmm.. I have a guy drawing up a "special" graphic based on a penny.. hmmm

Anyways.. time for an update..

Time for an update..

The Forgeline wheels are here..


http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen1.jpg

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen3.jpg

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen4.jpg


And I have the Marques tail lights and American Auto Wire LED lights installed.. man, those suckers are bright! I painted the center of the lights for a more toned-down OEM look. nice stuff! :thumbsup:
http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen2.jpg

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Great! you gave me something to dream about tonight! lol those would look good on my car.....

They look great steve.:thumbsup:

[XcYZ]

Awesome, just awesome. :bow:

Love the RA-1's, too.

[Steve1968LS2]

One extra shot.. need to get this sucker on the ground and heigth set-up...

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen5.jpg

[rockdogz]

I cant find anything wrong with it cept make it a 69

Blasphemy!! :lol:

Looking good Steve!

[GHOSTDANCER]

:hail: :bow: :hail: :bow: :hail:

[customcam]

Steve do you have any close up pics of the rear lights?
i love the way you did that :thumbsup:

[olds87]

I found a close up of the rear tail lights, here it is.

Steve Camaro (http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen2.jpg)

[black2002ls]

Sweet

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve do you have any close up pics of the rear lights?
i love the way you did that :thumbsup:

And here is a REALLY close shot..

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen6.jpg

[almcbri]

Steve,

The 68 was awesome when you first picked it up. The car looks even better now. I like how the car matches; Everything on the car flows well and looks at home! Good work man. :thumbsup:

[customcam]

Thanks Steve
:hail:

[trapin]

I cant find anything wrong with it cept make it a 69....

Yeah really, God forbid a '68 or '67 get some attention for once. :rolleyes:

[Diognes56]

:drool: :drool: :drool:

David

[CHAZMO1986]

Steve, Your Car Has Got To Be One Of My All-time Favorites, That Thing Looks So Darn Good. It Is An Inspiration To Say The Least

[Steve1968LS2]

Yeah really, God forbid a '68 or '67 get some attention for once. :rolleyes:

Hey, soon people will be saying "69 what??" lol

looking very nice, is that a 911 i see in primer next to the camaro? what are the plans for that bad boy?


also what are you running for rear suspension?

Update for today. Fabbed the air intake, installed the Modo-Innovations elec trunk release and tinkered with stuff. Getting ever so closer. When the new fly-by-wire pedal gets here we can get her running again.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen7.jpg

Had the lower latch powdered to match the DSE closeout and the upper latch. Also added a billet goodie to tie the upper latch to the lower and the hinges.
http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/latch1.jpg

[J2SpeedandCustom]

Looking really good Steve I love that hood latch!!

Can't wait to see the video of it on the road...:thumbsup:

[syborg tt]

two things

1. were is the pics of the air intake tube.

2. tell us more about the amx in the background.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen7.jpg

[Speedster]

Awesome as usual Steve. Your attention to detail is incredible...

[Leadfoot1]

Hey Steve,

can i ask you something i've been wondering of for awhile?

We often read in magazines that they are doing this and that and then this etc to a project car that comes and goes... and the writers of those articles, refer to them (cars) either as the "Company" or "Magazine" cars/ projects but also sometimes as "Their" car...

How does this work out??? 'Cause even you, sometime, refer to penny as the magazine's car. calling her "Ours" (reffering to the magazine, in your articles) and sometimes calling her yours....

I'm just wondering if its your personnal car that you "loan" to the cause or if its a company bought car that's assigned to you for the build...that you get to enjoy and take home a bit, Or maybe a mix of all of the above???

We see so many project cars and they switch hands etc...'Would be nice to know how you guy's work thru this in the mag world, not only with Penny but in general.

I mean, getting this deep into a project (Read; coverage!) has not been done often either, i sure hope you at least get first shot at her if she's not already in your name!

I had to ask...:question:

Lead.

[Steve1968LS2]

two things

1. were is the pics of the air intake tube.

2. tell us more about the amx in the background.



1. It's being "beauty welded" tomorrow and then it will be coated in the same titanium as the headers. It's as simple and low key as I could make it. the KN cone filter is buried behind the drivers side headlight.

2. It's mostly stock, but is being done very nicely. I will snap a pic to two tomorrow for ya.

[Steve1968LS2]

Hey Steve,

can i ask you something i've been wondering of for awhile?

We often read in magazines that they are doing this and that and then this etc to a project car that comes and goes... and the writers of those articles, refer to them (cars) either as the "Company" or "Magazine" cars/ projects but also sometimes as "Their" car...

How does this work out??? 'Cause even you, sometime, refer to penny as the magazine's car. calling her "Ours" (reffering to the magazine, in your articles) and sometimes calling her yours....

I'm just wondering if its your personnal car that you "loan" to the cause or if its a company bought car that's assigned to you for the build...that you get to enjoy and take home a bit, Or maybe a mix of all of the above???

We see so many project cars and they switch hands etc...'Would be nice to know how you guy's work thru this in the mag world, not only with Penny but in general.

I mean, getting this deep into a project (Read; coverage!) has not been done often either, i sure hope you at least get first shot at her if she's not already in your name!

I had to ask...:question:

Lead.

Penny is MY car.. however it's being done in the magazine so I sometimes say it's a PHR project car (our car). The title is in my safe and in my name. Any $$$ that is spent comes out of my pocket (same at the Fairlane)

Most "project cars" you see in the magazine belong to the various editors and such. It's hard to get excited or motivated to work (for free) on someone elses car. One exception to this is the 55 Chevy "Project X" it has been owned by the Corporation for decades. When work is done on this car any parts or outside labor is paid by the corporation.

When any $$ is spent on Penny it comes out of my wallet.

Lets say that you were an editor and you didn't want to buy a project car (they why do you work for a car magazine??? lol) You talk the magazine into buying the car. Then you proceed to do stories on building up the car. You spend hours and hours building the car and in the end the company would enjoy the fruits of you labor and you would get a pat on the back.

Hope that makes sense..

Awesome as usual Steve. Your attention to detail is incredible...

Thanks, I have a board in my garage with every paint/powder paint sample I can find. This way I can mix and match textures to see what is a nice combination. My strength is knowing what looks "right" together. I litteraly spend hours/days mulling over every little thing. I am also "cursed" with an eye for detail, if there's a flaw on any car I see it, it helps with building but is a PITA with owning since I see every chip or imperfection. It helps to make up for my mediocer welding and painting skills.. lol.

[Leadfoot1]

. .

When any $$ is spent on Penny it comes out of my wallet.



Thanks for anwsering, i wasn't sure if this was too personnal to ask or not. I hesitated before pressing the "submit" button LoL!

I'm not sure it makes sense tough...I mean, i don't bring my desk to work.(?)

But i understand there must be advantages still and that in the end the company would need a lot of space to keep all those cars too, not to mention track of the paper, insurance etc...so a crossover point is surely interesting to them. Also, the interest to work on your own car like you said is surely easier to create than working on any other general car.

Hey thanks for sharing.

Lead.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

that just means Steve is on the same playing feild the most of us are on.. hit that timecard and each hour is one more mod...

:thumbsup: :cheers:

[Steve1968LS2]

that just means Steve is on the same playing feild the most of us are on.. hit that timecard and each hour is one more mod...

:thumbsup: :cheers:

Yea, it's a nice perk of the job. When I work on my car for a story in PHR I'm getting paid to work on my own car. That's pretty cool when you think of it.

Speaking of which.. I need to order up my new rear brakes... :D

[Steve1968LS2]

We're in the final stretch now..

Spent the day working on the car. Had a electrician working on getting all the wiring cleaned up. His name is Dean and if anyone in SoCal needs a good automotice electrical guy then he is the guy.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen8.jpg

Worked with Dick over at Best of Show to fab up the four-inch air intake. The elbow is from Speed and Performance, the straight section is some scrap stainless tubing and the last 45-degree bend is a new piece that only cost me $40. The filter is a K&N deal.

The end of the intake is supported by a 5-inch piece of barstock welded under it. it goes down to the inner fender well and lines up with the spot where the fender brace bar bolts. On the end of the barstock we welded a nut. In the hole we put a rubber grommet to act as an isolator. The bolt feeds up from underneath, through the brace-bar, through a washer, through the groment, through another washer and in the nut welded to the bar from the air intake. Make sense? didn't think so.. lol

Anyways, it works and now all the parts can be sent to get thermal coated in the same stuff as the headers. I was thinking of going black-fine-texture like the closeout, but I think the contrast will look good and tie in the headers. Plus the air intake should get a small benefit from the thermal coat.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen9.jpg

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Looks great steve:thumbsup: Really like the air intake. everything looks like it was ment to be their!:yes:

[Leadfoot1]

Looks great steve:thumbsup: Really like the air intake. everything looks like it was ment to be their!:yes:


Yeah........But if you look closely in the last picture; the two clamps on the tube near the intake, they aren't quite exactly parrallel. The one in the rear seems a little lower than the one in front.:willy: :D

'Kiddin Steve (But i feel you're reaching for the flatblade!) It must only be the angle of the picture..........

Looking good.

Lead

[ZZ3ElCamino]

"BAD Penny", has sure earned it's name. Lookin' awesome Steve! :hail:

[Steve1968LS2]

Yeah........But if you look closely in the last picture; the two clamps on the tube near the intake, they aren't quite exactly parrallel. The one in the rear seems a little lower than the one in front.:willy: :D

'Kiddin Steve (But i feel you're reaching for the flatblade!) It must only be the angle of the picture..........

Looking good.

Lead

HA! those are just the mock up clamps.. I have special clamps that will go on the final deal.. and they will be aligned with calipers just for you ;)

[awr68]

Looking great bud!!! :thumbsup:

[XcYZ]

Looking awesome, Steve. :thumbsup: Is that a stock 85mm LS2 MAF?

[Steve1968LS2]

Looking awesome, Steve. :thumbsup: Is that a stock 85mm LS2 MAF?

Yep, the same type that comes on the crate engine.. fly-by-wire baby!

[black2002ls]

this thing is simply amazing. the attention to detail, the execution. The fact that it is going to get driven....HARD :thumbsup:

[71Nova]

Yep, the same type that comes on the crate engine.. fly-by-wire baby!

I like the idea of using the fly by wire. Mainly because I think it would work great with traction control if you got it later on. Beautiful car Steve! :thumbsup:

[Steve1968LS2]

New rear brakes.. partly because I decided I should have an e-brake system.. mostly because they are feakin beautiful.. lol

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/wilwood2.jpg

[syborg tt]

Those brakes look like they came From Precision Brakes ??

New rear brakes.. partly because I decided I should have an e-brake system.. mostly because they are feakin beautiful.. lol

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/wilwood2.jpg

[Steve1968LS2]

Those brakes look like they came From Precision Brakes ??

No, they came direct from Wilwood.. it's an "off the shelf" kit.

[ProdigyCustoms]

I think Precision bite the dust! I am glad we stayed away from that deal.

The kit Steve has there does not even have a part number yet, but we have been selling them for a couple months.

[Steve1968LS2]

two things

2. tell us more about the amx in the background.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen7.jpg

The AMX is mostly stock with custom paint and a custom interior. See that rear louver deal in the picture?

Well, nobody makes that, but the owner wanted on anyways. $4000 to a shop and they fabricated it out of metal. It's a pretty cool little car.

[race-rodz]

I think Precision bite the dust! I am glad we stayed away from that deal.



they are local to me, and still open, but since laramie(sp) left, they are about worthless. in fact they told me to call wilwood directly, then call them back with the part number so they could order it for me.

[syborg tt]

they are local to me, and still open, but since laramie(sp) left, they are about worthless. in fact they told me to call wilwood directly, then call them back with the part number so they could order it for me.


Yep i to miss Laramie. They eventually straighten out my kit. Last time i talked with Kevin he was telling me that they joined with another company and we going to be offering specific kits that would be stocked ont he shelf. Trying to cut down on there lead time issue's. I hope it works out for them as they really are/were a great company to deal with.

[syborg tt]

The AMX is mostly stock with custom paint and a custom interior. See that rear louver deal in the picture?

Well, nobody makes that, but the owner wanted on anyways. $4000 to a shop and they fabricated it out of metal. It's a pretty cool little car.

nice - what is the name of the shop i would love to look at there website.

[Steve Chryssos]

Holy crap! 44 pages and I never bothered to read any of the posts before. Delete all of the useless Yody posts and this thread should be made into a sticky called "Camaro by the Numbers" since Steve Rupp has resolved and addressed so many small project issues. I would love to see Rupp supply a single post with as many part numbers and descriptions as possible. Work on it in word and then cut & paste.

Once this car is done, I strongly believe that it will go down as a milestone pro-touring car. All of the brightest stars have aligned: An excellent 21st Century front clip, Lateral Dynamics 3 link, stiff chassis, Wilwood brakes, Toyo stickies on Forgeline wheels and just the right amount of horsepower with an LS2 wide powerband. If that's not enough to classify this car as a milestone, just add in Rupp's superhuman attention to detail with complementary and contrasting colors and finishes.

All that is missing is the Bad Penny tattoo between the door and front wheelwell. :thumbsup:

[Rick Dorion]

All that is missing is the Bad Penny tattoo between the door and front wheelwell. :thumbsup:

And a build book! Great car, Steve(s).

[Payton King]

definitely a "mile stone" car. What would a person change on this ride? I know some would say to twin turbo the motor, but this thing is going to be reliable as an anvil and very easy to drive fast.

In my opinion, which means nothing I might add, where do you go from here if you want to push the envelope? It has to be a full frame car that blurs the line between street car and race car. The AME vette is the same way. Only way to move up the performance is start moving in the the race car direction...which for a few will be the next step.

[syborg tt]

definitely a "mile stone" car. What would a person change on this ride?

Uhm - Owners

I wouldn't mind having it.

[Bowtieracing]

this thread should be made into a sticky called "Camaro by the Numbers" since Steve Rupp has resolved and addressed so many small project issues. I would love to see Rupp supply a single post with as many part numbers and descriptions as possible. Work on it in word and then cut & paste.



This becoming a phrase - but Steve(streetfytr68) said it again.I totally agree. Steve Rupp has done a great job for all of us and not hiding any tricks in hes sleeves. Yes i will try to copy some of Steves ideas too :thumbsup:

[Steve1968LS2]

Holy crap! 44 pages and I never bothered to read any of the posts before. Delete all of the useless Yody posts and this thread should be made into a sticky called "Camaro by the Numbers" since Steve Rupp has resolved and addressed so many small project issues. I would love to see Rupp supply a single post with as many part numbers and descriptions as possible. Work on it in word and then cut & paste.

Once this car is done, I strongly believe that it will go down as a milestone pro-touring car. All of the brightest stars have aligned: An excellent 21st Century front clip, Lateral Dynamics 3 link, stiff chassis, Wilwood brakes, Toyo stickies on Forgeline wheels and just the right amount of horsepower with an LS2 wide powerband. If that's not enough to classify this car as a milestone, just add in Rupp's superhuman attention to detail with complementary and contrasting colors and finishes.

All that is missing is the Bad Penny tattoo between the door and front wheelwell. :thumbsup:

Wow, that was very nice to say... I will try and not let it inflate my ego and make me a dickhead.. lol

I'm digging the Penny "tatoo" idea. Just need to figure out the right way to pull it off.

The car will not be "show car perfect" with a flawless paint job and razor straight gaps. But it will be nice enough to be proud of and of a quality where I won't be afraid to drive her.

And in other news.

The new center gauge cluster is all together. Nice that I have room to add a boost guage or whatever in the future. The upper guage is a digital tach and sequential shift light. The bottom on is the most important "engine health" indicator, the oil pressure gauge.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/shop 195.jpg

[Steve1968LS2]

definitely a "mile stone" car. What would a person change on this ride? I know some would say to twin turbo the motor, but this thing is going to be reliable as an anvil and very easy to drive fast.

In my opinion, which means nothing I might add, where do you go from here if you want to push the envelope? It has to be a full frame car that blurs the line between street car and race car. The AME vette is the same way. Only way to move up the performance is start moving in the the race car direction...which for a few will be the next step.

To top this car I would have to sell her, and I'm not doing that. This is my apex for a LONG time. After two years building the blue car and now 1.5 years building this one I want to enjoy having a done car. To satify my need to tinker I have the Fairlane and whatever project cars come down the line.

My wife has threatened death if I sell Penny. I married well :)

If I had more cash I might add some sort of forced induction or maybe the Harrop intake, something more exotic. Maybe down the line I will tackle this, for now I just want to get her on the street.

[Jr]

That is a nice looking unit. Where are you going to put the gas and volts?

[Jr]

If I had more cash I might add some sort of forced induction or maybe the Harrop intake, something more exotic. .

Did you put forged internals in the motor?

[Steve1968LS2]

That is a nice looking unit. Where are you going to put the gas and volts?

In the center section. It houses the volt, fuel level, fuel pressure, oil temp, water temp and the GPS track computer.

It's the same basic panel that was in the car originally

[Steve1968LS2]

Did you put forged internals in the motor?

Nope, no need to at this power level. ARP rod and head bolts were added.

[Payton King]

nothing that I would personally change on the car. To me you would have to move past being steet worthy to gain any more performance.

Obviously our cars ended up being very similar, but I sure wish I would have pulled the trigger on the 3 link, my only regret.

I am just happy you're on one coast and I am on the other. I would hate to run head to head...well maybe a few times.

[jamesg602]

Who makes the gauge cluster/dash piece for the gauges? Is it made of steel? Does it come as a blank?
James

[Steve1968LS2]

Who makes the gauge cluster/dash piece for the gauges? Is it made of steel? Does it come as a blank?
James

Made by Covans

Made of plastic

Can be ordered drilled or blank

Only around a hundred bucks

[Steve1968LS2]

Ok, today I finished up the air intake. It's coated like the headers. Came out nice I think. The engine bay is officially done!

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen9a.jpg

And with the DSE closeout in place:

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/pen9b.jpg

She starts right up and sounds wicked with open headers. Nice lopey idle. Next time I will have a video camera. My $2000 work camera doesn't shoot video.. :(

Next up... alignment, exhaust, tune, interior and minor details. Del Mar looks very good as a debut date.

[rocketrod]

I love the detail, but that radiator cap really stands out...

[Steve1968LS2]

I love the detail, but that radiator cap really stands out...

I can't find a GOOD (ie, quality) radiator cap that looks nice and isn't too big or too "blingy"

The Stant Racing cap is a high quality unit, Maybe I will just paint it flat black.

I am open to ideas!

[XcYZ]

Looks fantastic, Steve! :bow:

It's too bad that Hooligan went out of business, they were the guys who made really trick annodized CNC'd reservoirs for sport bikes that was used on Johnson's Cuda for his clutch and brakes. It would have looked perfect in your engine bay (go look at the engine shots of the Cuda and you'll see what I mean). Anyways, I just love how it turned out for you. You have an eye for detail, that's for sure. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[clill]

Does that Stant race cap have two seals to work with a overflow bottle ? Pressure ?

[Steve1968LS2]

Does that Stant race cap have two seals to work with a overflow bottle ? Pressure ?

I don't think this one did. I will look next time.

[rockdogz]

Looks incredible man!
Can you take some fine sandpaper or steel wool to the cap and remove all the markings??

[mazspeed]

Steve's car is a work of art. I think it's the best looking camaro I have ever seen.

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Very Very Nice steve, If I may ask....Who did your coating?

Thanks

[Payton King]

Has a billet rad cap cover. You could get it and either coat it or put a brush finish.

[XcYZ]

Has a billet rad cap cover. You could get it and either coat it or put a brush finish.

That's a good idea. You could annodize it black, too. Hmmmm... :)

[Steve1968LS2]

Has a billet rad cap cover. You could get it and either coat it or put a brush finish.

I have a fancy billet one from AFCO, however I have a problem.

The DSE closeout was designed for radiators with the cap on the passengers side. My dual pass unit has the cap on the drivers side. This meant my space was limited in regards to cap size. If you look close you can see how I "clearanced" the DSE cover to give a bit more room for a radiator cap. I could run a billet cap but it needs to be close in size to the Stant cap.

I just want something non-shiny that blends. I'm sure there's something out there, just been a low priority.


Very Very Nice steve, If I may ask....Who did your coating?

Thanks

Embee performance coatings in Santa Ana, CA - Ask for dave or jeff.

www.embeeperformance.com

Looks incredible man!
Can you take some fine sandpaper or steel wool to the cap and remove all the markings??

Maybe, the part with the STANT writing is a seperate piece and I think I can remove it. The lettering is silkscreened on it and I was thinking of sanding it smooth and then having it powdered in either silver (to blend) or the titanium color to tie into the intake.

On a positive note, you know you are finishing a build when you start to fuss with the radiator cap. lol

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve's car is a work of art. I think it's the best looking camaro I have ever seen.

Thanks man, your's is still the best color combo though ;)

Coming to Fontana Super Chevy and Del Mar? I have scratched plans to have the car at Super Chevy so I can concentrate on getting it done for Del Mar. My being gone all next week on vacation is NOT helping the process, but it will make my wife happy and "a happy wife = a happy life"

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Thanks Steve:)

[mdprovee]

Steve, your car is amazing, I hope to see some time.

[Steve Chryssos]

....I'm digging the Penny "tatoo" idea. Just need to figure out the right way to pull it off.....


There's a good article on that in this month's Hot Rod.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

[mazspeed]

Thanks man, your's is still the best color combo though ;)

Coming to Fontana Super Chevy and Del Mar? I have scratched plans to have the car at Super Chevy so I can concentrate on getting it done for Del Mar. My being gone all next week on vacation is NOT helping the process, but it will make my wife happy and "a happy wife = a happy life"

Well you did give me the colors. :D
I'm hoping to make it, depends on if Frank can ship the supercharger out this week. Everything else is ready including the engine rebuild. I will be there if the car is done.

[Steve1968LS2]

There's a good article on that in this month's Hot Rod.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

Are they claiming to have invented the concept??? ;)

[1970cuda]

Are they claiming to have invented the concept???

no just the internet or was that Al Gore?

[Steve1968LS2]

The new exhaust

[mazspeed]

The new exhaust

Very nice. Ok, now that it's done, pick me up and let's go driving. :unibrow:

[James OLC]

Very nice job on the exhaust Steve.:thumbsup:
What mufflers did you end up using?

[Steve1968LS2]

Very nice job on the exhaust Steve.:thumbsup:
What mufflers did you end up using?

Magnaflow... 14x9

The whole system is tucked to the floor really nicely. I have tons of gound clearance except where it has to dip down a bit to go under the trans crossmember. Warner's Performance did an EXCELENT job fabricating all the stuff.

The 3-inch x-pipe is from Magnaflow as well.

[James OLC]

Thanks dude, we've got something cool coming together on the exhaust side of things and, as you know, the 3-link has some unique packaging considerations.

[rsk68]

Steve

How much would they charge for this system, Im looking for a shop to do mine in 3 inch SS, do you have there contact info/

Thanks

RSK68
Rick

[71Nova]

Steve are you alright? I heard they evacuated 500 homes in your area due to a brush fire.

[71Nova]

Steve your exhaust looks like my exhaust. SS with x pipe and Magnaflow mufflers. The day I had the exhaust installed I was kind of disapointed with the mufflers because it was to quiet. Mine took about 100 miles to break in, and I am now very happy with the sound level. Quite a bit louder than the first time I fired her up with the new stuff.

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve

How much would they charge for this system, Im looking for a shop to do mine in 3 inch SS, do you have there contact info/

Thanks

RSK68
Rick

I would expect about $400 labor plus materials, maybe less. I would save a ton of cash and go with aluminized steel over stainless and just have the system thermal coated. Most stainless is quite a bit thinner and thus louder and it costs a freakin fortune. It's WARNER'S PERFORMANCE, In Oceanside, CA, ask for Jim.

Steve are you alright? I heard they evacuated 500 homes in your area due to a brush fire.

We're in Hawaii on vacation. The house is ok, we are on the other side of the 91 freeway. :woot:

Steve your exhaust looks like my exhaust. SS with x pipe and Magnaflow mufflers. The day I had the exhaust installed I was kind of disapointed with the mufflers because it was to quiet. Mine took about 100 miles to break in, and I am now very happy with the sound level. Quite a bit louder than the first time I fired her up with the new stuff.

Yea, Magnaflows are like that. :)

[69rs]

[QUOTE=Steve1968LS2]



We're in Hawaii on vacation.


QUOTE]
The life of a magazine editor! :yes:

[rsk68]

Steve

Thanks for the info, good point on the SS thickness, I have a local guy that wants $1200 for a complete SS system, not sure if that was high or not, i will check with hi and Warners about a coated steel system.

Thanks
Rick

[Steve1968LS2]

How's this for a great bunch of guys.

I'm on vacation in Hawaii and while it's great it's killing my ETA for getting the car done by the Good Guys Del Mar show. So Mark from Lateral-Dynamics and Dick from Best of Show spend all day today working on my car (trying to wittle down the list of "things to do").

As a bonus they even installed my new Wilwood rear brakes. These guys rock! Now I can spend next Saturday doing other things on the list. Thanks guys!

[waynieZ]

Very nice brakes Bling!

[Gandalf]

Dear Mark / Dick,

I am also on holiday and my 'maro needs finishing too. It's in my gagrage in Carlsbad - I left the key under the mat for you. If you could just finish it up for me before I get home, that would be great. I need a few more parts than Steve and there's probably a few hours worth of buffing to be done but I know you guys will do a bang-up job!

http://carcraft.com/thehistoryof/ccrp_0605_ranch_09_z+phoenix_car_junkyard+1968_chv y_camaro.jpg

(does hiding in the back yard count as a holiday?)

:P

[Leadfoot1]

I hate it when some guy's post pics of cars like these!!!!!!

Here that thing would sell for 4-5K easily!!!!!!!!!!!! (serious!)

Oh well.....


Steve, i've meant to ask, are the center caps on your wheel Forgeline pieces or if you got them custom made. I dig the C-Fiber in 'em and since i have a few ideas in my own ride including some... I looked up the Forgeline to find some info on them for mine site but to no avail. (Maybe thats why it took so long for you to get them back?!;) )

Thanks,

Lead.

[Garage Dog 65]

Check those awesome trucks in the background !!!!!

AAAAAAAaaaaaaghhhh.