Shooting in Connecticut

[Vegas69]

Todd,
Same sort of basic form replies I got here in Tennessee. Sad, but what matters is that we did let them know our views, and I will be watching and remembering come election time....


Jeff-

I agree Jeff, we made the effort instead of bitchin and moaning. :D

[Sieg]

I agree Jeff, we made the effort instead of bitchin and moaning. :D
Sadly I've submitted enough letters related to land use and public safety issues to realize that their (senate & congress) SOP is drafting a form response letter for "our" representatives in anticipation of the retaliation.

[Tony_SS]

http://news.yahoo.com/missile-launcher-shows-seattle-gun-buyback-174331546.html

A comment on the story..

I used to work at General Dynamics on the Stinger missile. That launch tube is not only single-use, it's disposable, and intended to be discarded after use. It's useless without the missile, and I'll bet there's a ton of them lying around all over in old battlefields.

I agree Jeff, we made the effort instead of bitchin and moaning. :D

The problem I have is when people don't bitch and moan. You did just that to your insect overlords, I mean "representatives". Good job!

[Vegas69]

Nah, my letter was just full of ideas I think will help. If they threw it in the garbage can, oh well. :relax:

[camcojb]

100% agree with this guy.

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[Flash68]

^^ Absolutely.

[Z10ROD]

yea its mental health issue for sure. maybe their shooting for the moon with the clips and assault weapons hoping when they miss at least they can hit the stars as in stronger background checks ???? that seams to be the only way to get anything done recently.

[Sieg]

Thanks Jody - That man's logic cannot be shared enough. :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Glad I got rid of my Garand years ago, along with all of those evil clips.

[intocarss]

Great post Cam :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Glad I got rid of my Garand years ago, along with all of those evil clips.I've sold most of my stuff too. Besides, those Garand's are way too heavy, crappy wood, and ya can't hit the broad side of a barn with them. :thumbsup:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I've sold most of my stuff too. Besides, those Garand's are way too heavy, crappy wood, and ya can't hit the broad side of a barn with them. :thumbsup:. Really? Probably my favorite iron site long gun. 3 inch groups at a 100 yards. : )

[Tony_SS]

100% agree with this guy.

I like what he says, except for one thing about 'checking up' on people who have been denied. That creates a very slippery slope when 'mental health' is subjective to a federal bureaucracy. And any sort of expanded 'mental/background' check further than what is currently being done when ALL people purchase a firearm (FFL) will be nothing short of national registry list. The NRA should be careful in supporting anything of the sort.

Lets not forget, we are told Lanza tried several times to buy firearms. The system in place did its job and denied him.

[Spiffav8]

I like what he says, except for one thing about 'checking up' on people who have been denied. That creates a very slippery slope when 'mental health' is subjective to a federal bureaucracy. And any sort of expanded 'mental/background' check further than what is currently being done when ALL people purchase a firearm (FFL) will be nothing short of national registry list. The NRA should be careful in supporting anything of the sort.

Lets not forget, we are told Lanza tried several times to buy firearms. The system in place did its job and denied him.

Wouldn't a Universal Background Check be basically the same thing as a National Registry?

[Tony_SS]

Wouldn't a Universal Background Check be basically the same thing as a National Registry?

Yes, that's what I was trying to say.

[camcojb]

another view.

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[Sieg]

That's going to make some waves within the bureaucracy.

Here's another "outsiders" opinion that hasn't forgotten lessons of history.

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[GregWeld]

I still think -- that in the end -- no laws are going to protect anyone nor prevent anyone from murdering another human. How many they murder depends on how well they plan it. But no "law" is going to prevent them.

I don't think a normal mind can possibly comprehend the criminally insane mind. WE just don't think that way.

We can't explain it -- I don't think we can stop it -- and, while we don't want to -- I think we just have to accept that from time to time bad stuff happens.

Perhaps I've said the Serenity Prayer too often... it's that last line of the first verse.... :bang:

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I'm starting to think that this all about getting Americans to unarm Americans.

[GregWeld]

Everyone loves to push their own agenda on someone else... tree huggers -- liberals -- the religious right -- you name it - they want everyone to be just like them. So I agree Vince -- it's more about "US vs THEM" than anything. :thumbsup:

[intocarss]

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[intocarss]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F584p5kJL-U&feature=youtu.be

[GregWeld]

That's a good video! I forwarded it to a few folks I know that need some education.

Funny how the anti gun crowd will only argue that "nobody needs a gun"... but it's these same flower power folks that will march on anything that has to do with "rights". Pretty ironic.

[Tony_SS]

To anyone who is for 'gun control'... ask they HOW they will take the guns?

The ultimate answer they come to, is they'll use guys with 'guns' to take your guns.

They aren't for gun control, but authoritarian control of people who's agenda they don't agree with.

[Bucketlist2012]

I watched Piers Morgan the other night just to get a perpective on his views..

He was at a Gun range, and he was shooting an Assaust style weapon.

He was talking about it's rate of fire, ect...That it is a Semi automatic weapon..

Then he goes and shoots it in full auto mode...

There is no way he was firing semi auto when the bursts of bullets were coming out 10 at a time...:confused59: :lostmarbles:

I tried to see if he was going to be impartial, but his display of lying to the public continues...:warning:

[realcoray]

I watched Piers Morgan the other night just to get a perpective on his views..

He was at a Gun range, and he was shooting an Assaust style weapon.

He was talking about it's rate of fire, ect...That it is a Semi automatic weapon..

Then he goes and shoots it in full auto mode...

There is no way he was firing semi auto when the bursts of bullets were coming out 10 at a time...:confused59: :lostmarbles:

I tried to see if he was going to be impartial, but his display of lying to the public continues...:warning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOUNvIwxSWg

These are completely legal, so while I don't know what he was using, it's definitely possible to have an absurd rate of fire without the weapon being considered 'full auto'.

[Bucketlist2012]

Doesn't make sense to me...

It looks like a full auto weapon to me....

That is probably what he was firing..

[Vince@Meanstreets]

People that don't know squat about guns are going to class a perfectly legal semi sported with a military select fire AR-15. If you are going to try to fight something you would think you would at least educate yourself.

In an interview he asked, why do people need these semi automatic weapons of war that has the ability to spit out 100 rounds a second and kill thousands?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOUNvIwxSWg

These are completely legal, so while I don't know what he was using, it's definitely possible to have an absurd rate of fire without the weapon being considered 'full auto'.
Such a waste of money, also give anti's momentum. To me that's like doing donuts on Michelin pilot sports.

[Tony_SS]

People that don't know squat about guns are going to class a perfectly legal semi sported with a military select fire AR-15. If you are going to try to fight something you would think you would at least educate yourself.

In an interview he asked, why do people need these semi automatic weapons of war that has the ability to spit out 100 rounds a second and kill thousands?

It's what liars do best.. They don't want to educate or be reasonable. They just want their political opponents unarmed.

[intocarss]

Good O'l California

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-seeks-adopt-nations-toughest-gun-laws-220030130.html

[Sieg]

Good O'l California

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-seeks-adopt-nations-toughest-gun-laws-220030130.html

They probably paid $750 for that special "Assault Rifle" stand. :rolleyes:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Good O'l California

http://news.yahoo.com/calif-seeks-adopt-nations-toughest-gun-laws-220030130.html

to a fellow CA resident, I'd rather be here than new york. That's IF I owned an assult rifle that is. :D

The rest of the country is going this direction too. good stuff on legislation over at Calguns http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=698309

its already started.... R8WLXhahw_A

[96z28ss]

look what Austrailia is dealing with.

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[GregWeld]

If you watch this video on YouTube -- one of the first comments is "You Aussies better take over your government"....


I had to laugh... REALLY?? With what?? They're armed and the people aren't.

Vote the idiots out that vote for gun bans and other such stupid ideas.

[intocarss]

to a fellow CA resident, I'd rather be here than new york. That's IF I owned an assult rifle that is. :D

The rest of the country is going this direction too. good stuff on legislation over at Calguns http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=698309

its already started.... R8WLXhahw_A

Great video Thanks

I lost all my guns in a boating accident :D

[intocarss]

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/2/outrage-of-the-week-jesse-jackson-claims-semi-autos-can-blow-up-railroads.aspx?s&st&ps

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :sieg: :sieg: :sieg: :confused59:

This week's outrage comes to us courtesy of the anti-gun Reverend Jesse Jackson. Rev. Jackson is not in the news as much now as he once was. When you do hear from him, though, his comments are still laced with his usual dose of hyperbole.

That predictable pattern continues with Rev. Jackson's recent comments on semi-automatic firearms.

According to an article appearing on TheBlaze.com last month, Rev. Jackson believes that semi-automatic firearms must be banned because they could "shoot down planes" and therefore constitute a risk to national security.

The Blaze ran a follow-up story debunking the claim, but that didn't seem to deter Rev. Jackson, as this week he boldly declared that, in addition to shooting down planes, semi-automatic firearms could also be used to "blow up railroads."

"You know that these weapons can shoot down airplanes, they can blow up railroads. This is really a whole national security issue," Rev. Jackson said in a recent interview on Fox News. Blow up railroads? What in the world is he basing that claim on?

If Rev. Jackson is interested in the facts and wants to return this debate back to earth, he should know that semi-automatic firearms were introduced in the late 1800s, and have been popular for self-defense, hunting and target shooting ever since. Forty percent of all uses of firearms for self-defense are performed with semi-automatic handguns, and all firearms used in the annual National Rifle and Pistol Trophy Matches are semi-automatic.

Though he seems to know very little about semi-automatic firearms, we assume that we will continue to hear Rev. Jackson make outrageous claims about this issue in the future. No doubt Jackson won't be able to help himself, as he craves the spotlight to continue to push his agenda, using bizarre and truly outrageous claims.

The anti-gunners--including Rev. Jackson--will stop at nothing to get what they want: a ban on your lawfully owned firearms. They will literally say anything they think will help them achieve their goal.

[GregWeld]

I cleaned my Kimber today.... so satisfying.

[Sieg]

That's it! I've had enough! I'm getting a California Bullet button installed on all my guns and loading more assault ammunition with my auto-loading assault ammo press. :D

[GregWeld]

Watching the local news this morning and sipping my coffee -- I'm surprised and shocked to see them actually run a story AGAINST gun buy backs....saying that they don't work. DOH!



http://www.kirotv.com/videos/news/kiro-7-investigates-if-gun-buybacks-make-us-any/vp8qB/

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Watching the local news this morning and sipping my coffee -- I'm surprised and shocked to see them actually run a story AGAINST gun buy backs....saying that they don't work. DOH!



http://www.kirotv.com/videos/news/kiro-7-investigates-if-gun-buybacks-make-us-any/vp8qB/
Awwwww man, now how the heck am I going to get ammo money now?? The gov is the only one that will pay me $200 for an $85 Mosin Nagant..anyone want to buy a classic Russian Mosin rifle? Only dropped once.
300 available. LOL

[wiedemab]

I was wondering how much I could get for some Red Riders - -I mean, they hold like a 100 rounds! Hard telling how many eyes they shot out over the years. Right Ralphie? :guns:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I read that San Mateo Sherrifs actually took in several air soft rifles not knowing that they were toys. Haaaahaaa

[GregWeld]

A good article on gun violence in America.... it actually shows gun deaths DECREASING despite a rise in firearm ownership...


http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/09/16912647-guns-in-america-the-weapon-of-choice-for-criminals-but-also-a-deterrent?lite

[Sieg]

A good article on gun violence in America.... it actually shows gun deaths DECREASING despite a rise in firearm ownership...


http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/09/16912647-guns-in-america-the-weapon-of-choice-for-criminals-but-also-a-deterrent?lite

The concept has worked in rural areas for decades and it will work in metro areas too. It certainly isn't rocket science. :rules: #time4paradigmshift

[intocarss]

:sieg: :sieg: :sieg: :sieg: :sieg: :sieg:

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[Ron in SoCal]

:thankyou: for posting Jerr. I've had the hots for her since she was on CNBC....

[GregWeld]

When Erin left CNBC I almost sold all my stocks and quit watching....


At least Biden has a grasp on the BS going around Washington DC....

[Bucketlist2012]

Every once in a while, the truth slips out of Joe's mouth....

[Sieg]

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Six Sieg's............that's bad! :confused59:

Every once in a while, the truth slips out of Joe's mouth....
Can you imagine what Doh Joe blurts out in the middle of the night in his sleep. :D

[Vince@Meanstreets]

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[jeff71]

Not sure if anybody has seen this yet.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/14/missouri-dems-introduce-alarming-gun-confiscation-bill-giving-law-abiding-gun-owners-90-days-to-turn-in-certain-firearms-or-become-felons/



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/breaking-mn-democrats-introduce-law-to-confiscate-guns-using-same-language-as-mo-democrats/

[Tony_SS]

Not sure if anybody has seen this yet.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/14/missouri-dems-introduce-alarming-gun-confiscation-bill-giving-law-abiding-gun-owners-90-days-to-turn-in-certain-firearms-or-become-felons/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/breaking-mn-democrats-introduce-law-to-confiscate-guns-using-same-language-as-mo-democrats/

It'll never happen. The sheriff in this country publicly stated that he will take no part in any confiscation.

But the fact that some 'lawmakers' are behind this, is scary.

[nicks67ca]

This was just released by the Governor. I hope this doesn't pass.


http://media2.wtnh.com/_local/documents/02.21.13-Gun-Safety-Proposal.pdf

[Sieg]

They are making a push:

Scott --

Thousands of OFA volunteers from across the country have signed up to be part of the national Day of Action to reduce gun violence this Friday -- and there's an event happening in your community.

Can you stop by? RSVP for the Day of Action event in Eugene today:

http://my.barackobama.com/February-Day-of-Action

Every person who adds their voice to this fight makes our efforts that much stronger.

Thank you,

Jon


-----Original Message-----
From: Sara El-Amine, BarackObama.com
Subject: Join our first national Day of Action

Friend --

In his State of the Union address, President Obama reminded us: The victims of shootings like those in Newtown, Aurora, Oak Creek, and Tucson deserve a vote on legislation that will reduce gun violence and better protect our children and our communities.

So this Friday, February 22nd, Organizing for Action volunteers all around the country are participating in a Day of Action focused on one simple goal: get Congress to pass legislation to require universal background checks and remove loopholes.

There's an event near you in Eugene -- will you be there?

Here are the details:
What: Day of Action event in Eugene

Where: 8th & Oak
Eugene, OR 97401

When: Friday, February 22nd
5:30 pm



The President has already taken key steps, but Congress needs to act, and we need to demand it.

Requiring background checks for all gun sales is a common-sense solution that 92 percent of Americans, 89 percent of Republicans, and 74 percent of NRA members support. We've got to keep firearms from getting into the wrong hands -- and this is a crucial first step.

So come out on Friday in your community and make sure your representatives and senators know where you stand. RSVP now:

http://my.barackobama.com/February-Day-of-Action

Thanks,

Sara

Sara El-Amine
National Organizing Director
Organizing for Action

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Scott --

Maybe you've seen firsthand how gun violence can rip apart a family and a community.

Or maybe you're concerned by what you see on the news.

Whatever your reason, those in Congress who oppose sensible change need to hear from you: Share your personal story or views on why Congress should act right now to help protect our kids and reduce gun violence.

Your story will inspire others to speak out and show legislators that now is the time.

President Obama said it: "More than a thousand birthdays, graduations, and anniversaries have been stolen from our lives by a bullet from a gun" in just the two months since the tragedy in Newtown.

Each of those families deserves a vote by Congress on commonsense measures to help protect our kids.

But we need to demand it.

It's easy to share your story or point of view:

1. Provide your basic information. (Please note: For your privacy, we'll only publish your city and your first name and last initial.)
2. If you have a photo or video you'd like to share, paste a link into that field. You can paste an Instagram or Twitter link, but cannot upload a photo directly.
3. In the final box, compose your personal story or views about reducing gun violence.
4. After you agree to the submission terms, hit the green "Tell Your Story" button. Our staff will review and post your submission.

Please share your story today:

http://my.barackobama.com/Share-Your-Story-on-Gun-Violence

This won't be easy, but if we can save even one life, it'll be worth it.

Thanks,

Jon

Jon Carson
Executive Director
Organizing for Action

P.S. -- Read some of the powerful stories that folks have already shared, then hit the "Tell Your Story" button to submit your own.



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Their propaganda is sickening.

[intocarss]

Saw this on another fourm

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call each of the senators below and tell them to vote NO on any gun ban...NO on any magazine ban...NO on criminalizing private firearm transfers...and NO on any gun registration scheme.
Sen. Max Baucus 202-224-2651
Sen. Mark Begich 202-224-3004
Sen. Susan Collins 202-224-2523
Sen. Joe Donnelly 202-224-4814
Sen. Kay Hagan 202-224-6342
Sen. Martin Heinrich 202-224-5521
Sen. Heidi Heitkamp 202-224-2043
Sen. Tim Johnson 202-224-5842
Sen. Tim Kaine 202-224-4024
Sen. Angus King 202-224-5344
Sen. Mary Landrieu 202-224-5824
Sen. Joe Manchin 202-224-3954
Sen. Claire McCaskill 202-224-6154
Sen. Mark Pryor 202-224-2353
Sen. Harry Reid 202-224-3542
Sen. Jeanne Shaheen 202-224-2841
Sen. Jon Tester 202-224-2644
Sen. Mark Udall 202-224-5941
Sen. Tom Udall 202-224-6621
Sen. Mark Warner 202-224-2023
Spread your calls out over several days if you need to.

And remember: It doesn't matter if you do not live in these senators' states - YOU NEED TO CALL THEM. After all, the votes they cast will affect you no matter where you live!

Thank you for your hard work and dedication to winning this battle. Now is not the time to let up! Call each of these 20 senators as soon as you can.

By working together, we can defeat the Obama gun ban agenda and save the Second Amendment!!!

Chris

[DBasher]

http://monderno.com/monderno/dont-tread-on-me/

Not sure if it's been posted yet, good read.

:cheers:
Dan

[GregWeld]

Taking guns away from law abiding citizens because you believe that the criminals have too many guns, is like having yourself castrated because you believe the neighbors have too many kids.

[intocarss]

Taking guns away from law abiding citizens because you believe that the criminals have too many guns, is like having yourself castrated because you believe the neighbors have too many kids.

I'M BORROWING THAT

[Sieg]

Why don't they just take the guns away from the criminals? There's less of them. :sieg:

[intocarss]

Why don't they just take the guns away from the criminals? There's less of them. :sieg:

Stop coming in here and making sense :warning: :bitchslap:

[Sieg]

Stop coming in here and making sense :warning: :bitchslap:

Draw Pilgrim! :guns:

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

Why don't they just take the guns away from the criminals? There's less of them. :sieg:

Because it's easier to take them from the law abiding.

I heard an anti say "take all guns away and criminals will not be able to use them."

[intocarss]

Because it's easier to take them from the law abiding.

I heard an anti say "take all guns away and criminals will not be able to use them." That's as bad as my dad's wife. She says.. If everywhere were a "gun free zone" no one would get shot :bang:

[GregWeld]

Taking guns away from law abiding citizens because you believe that the criminals have too many guns, is like having yourself castrated because you believe the neighbors have too many kids.

I'M BORROWING THAT




Hey! Go ahead 'cause I stole it fair and square from someone else!



You didn't really think I was that clever did ya??:thankyou:

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/OBLAMA_zps7aefa3e1.png

[Vince@Meanstreets]

That's as bad as my dad's wife. She says.. If everywhere were a "gun free zone" no one would get shot :bang:

Look where most shooting happens. In gun free zones. Look at where mrs obamas teenaged friend was killed, In Chicago which has very strict gun laws.
We are still two year olds that just don't like to follow rules. We still text and drive. We still drive fast in construction zones. It's just not all of us are killers but we all are capable of. The military would not exist with out that imbedded switch. A scary thought.

[GregWeld]

This is kind of funny.... Seems that big ole Obamacare that nobody read before voting on it - actually has some gun laws included in it.






http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/09/video-secret-gun-rights-provision-in-obamacare/

[Spiffav8]

This is kind of funny.... Seems that big ole Obamacare that nobody read before voting on it - actually has some gun laws included in it.






http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/09/video-secret-gun-rights-provision-in-obamacare/

"The Government can not collect any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition."

The key word is "Lawful". Isn't that the argument at the moment, what should and shouldn't be allowed by law?
It's not about Gun Control. It's about People Control.

[GregWeld]

To me it's more about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

Our government has become so bloated..... Seriously -- Who could possibly understand and follow and administer a SINGLE law that is 9800 pages worth of friggin' gibberish?!?!


By the way -- the only way a DOCTOR is going to know you have a gun -- is if you're seeing him because you shot yourself... or someone shot you... or you're a gang banger that is shot weekly... I mean - really? Who goes in to talk guns with their doctor.

[Spiffav8]

To me it's more about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

Our government has become so bloated..... Seriously -- Who could possibly understand and follow and administer a SINGLE law that is 9800 pages worth of friggin' gibberish?!?!


By the way -- the only way a DOCTOR is going to know you have a gun -- is if you're seeing him because you shot yourself... or someone shot you... or you're a gang banger that is shot weekly... I mean - really? Who goes in to talk guns with there doctor.

Actually....I talk guns with my Doctor. :lmao: He's a big time gun nut! He built everyone of the gals that work for him an AR last year.

I asked him about "Doctors asking about guns" and he said there is no reporting or tracking, but that some Doctors will ask about firearms in homes (even ask children) so they can promote gun safety in the home. He doesn't ask, but says there are those who do. I suppose this could come down to a persons views and that person pushing a personal agenda, but hey that never happens.

Oh and yeah...no one in the government understands what's going on.

[Tony_SS]

Actually....I talk guns with my Doctor. :lmao: He's a big time gun nut! He built everyone of the gals that work for him an AR last year.

I asked him about "Doctors asking about guns" and he said there is no reporting or tracking, but that some Doctors will ask about firearms in homes (even ask children) so they can promote gun safety in the home. He doesn't ask, but says there are those who do. I suppose this could come down to a persons views and that person pushing a personal agenda, but hey that never happens.

Oh and yeah...no one in the government understands what's going on.

This is why you never let your child see the doctor alone.

[Spiffav8]

Laurie found this web-site http://friendorfoe.us/ Great tool if you're interested.

[Ron in SoCal]

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[GregWeld]

News like this isn't going to help anyones causes......





http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/28/17131868-report-school-employee-accidentally-shot-during-concealed-weapons-class?lite

[Vince@Meanstreets]

News like this isn't going to help anyones causes......





http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/28/17131868-report-school-employee-accidentally-shot-during-concealed-weapons-class?lite

He wasn't carrying a glock forty by any chance? lol

I think this whole thing is to keep us away from thinking too much of the fiscal cliff part 2. :rules:

[GregWeld]

He wasn't carrying a glock forty by any chance? lol

I think this whole thing is to keep us away from thinking too much of the fiscal cliff part 2. :rules:



Yeah! I was surprised that they don't have a safety! What kind of a gun doesn't have a safety?!?!?


I don't know much about guns. I'm learning but still a complete newb. I was really surprised to find that out about the Glocks. They call it the Safe Action System... but from what I can see - if a round is chambered and you pull on the trigger - you're shooting "something".

Maybe that's why every once in awhile there's a news story about some gangbanger capping himself in the nuts while "holstering" (shoving the weapon in his waist band).

[Sieg]

What kind of a gun doesn't have a safety?!?!?

Trigger cocking DOA w/ passive striker. My primary carry piece for 10 or so years: http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-PM40.asp
Revolver simple.

[GregWeld]

Trigger cocking DOA w/ passive striker. My primary carry piece for 10 or so years: http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-PM40.asp
Revolver simple.



That's not a proper carry pistol! THIS is a proper LAT G carry pistol!!!!




EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA










http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/file-21.jpg

[Sieg]

Does that thing have hydraulics and come with a gold plated holster?

My version of the darkside........
http://sieg.smugmug.com/photos/i-PVs27m8/0/M/i-PVs27m8-M.jpg

[Ron in SoCal]

Joe Biden says, "Buy a shotgun!"

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[out2kayak]

John Stossel learned this when he studied the gun issue and then reported on the May 4, 2007 edition of 20/20, "[G]un control isn't necessarily crime control. ...[T]he National Academy of Sciences reviewed hundreds of studies and could not document a single gun regulation that reduced violent crime or murder."

Florida State University criminologist Dr. Gary Kleck found that guns are used by Americans to ward off criminals 2.2 to 2.5 million times per year. Of course, these defensive uses of firearms wouldn't be necessary if there weren't so much criminality in the first place. And this brings us to the most important point: when criminality increases to fearsome levels is when good people need guns most.

Dr Gary Kleck states there are at least 13 published studies finding no meaningful connection between the rate of firearms ownership and the rate of suicides. The consensus of experts, he says, is that an increase in gun ownership doesn't raise the number of people who kill themselves--only the number who do it with a gun.

http://www.criminology.fsu.edu/p/news-archives.php?id=30

http://www.saf.org/lawreviews/kleckandgertz1.htm

If we take the premise that gun ownership does not increase the rate of suicides, wards off criminals and control does not reduce the violent crime or murder rate, why are we so willing to give up our Constitutional rights to the government in the name of "doing something"? Do we not realize that once liberty is given up, it is either forever lost or only regained through significant strife and hardship?

Have we allowed people like this woman to go too far?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZGWvwvH_0

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Its a big head line because the government is very afraid that its citizens are well armed and the worst part is they do not know who is. :disgusted:

Foil hat aside. I think something big is coming and they know it.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Also check out how much crime has increased in the last few weeks nation wide.

[glassman]

So, with a huge shortage in ammo, are the Feds buying it all up to keep it from getting to the public?

Sorry, I'm late to the party and wow, 58 pages and counting...

[Spiffav8]

So, with a huge shortage in ammo, are the Feds buying it all up to keep it from getting to the public?

Sorry, I'm late to the party and wow, 58 pages and counting...

Not sure, but when they are buying ten times more than was fired in the entire Iraq war, you have to stop and ask your self why.

[Tony_SS]

Not sure, but when they are buying ten times more than was fired in the entire Iraq war, you have to stop and ask your self why.

This. It seems we have a domestic arms race going on... It's getting a little creepy. Here are 2 recent stories.

http://www.naturalnews.com/039345_DHS_arms_race_armored_vehicles.html

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-signs-4-5-million-dollar-contract-with-heckler-koch

[Spiffav8]

This. It seems we have a domestic arms race going on... It's getting a little creepy. Here are 2 recent stories.

http://www.naturalnews.com/039345_DHS_arms_race_armored_vehicles.html

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-signs-4-5-million-dollar-contract-with-heckler-koch

Who knows. Makes it hard to prepare.

[GregWeld]

Not sure, but when they are buying ten times more than was fired in the entire Iraq war, you have to stop and ask your self why.


They're still training people.... and if there's a 100,000 guys training per day and each one only fires 100 rounds... that's a LOT of ammo. So of their stuff fires 30 round bursts... pull the trigger 3 times and you've gone through 100 rounds. Multiply that by what??

Just sayin' --- the gov has a lot of guys around using this stuff up.

[GregWeld]

How about a 14 year old GIRL with PROPER training!!!





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[Ron in SoCal]

How about a 14 year old GIRL with PROPER training!!!

That's Hit Girl!

NWS link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFobnv93AMM

[Spiffav8]

They're still training people.... and if there's a 100,000 guys training per day and each one only fires 100 rounds... that's a LOT of ammo. So of their stuff fires 30 round bursts... pull the trigger 3 times and you've gone through 100 rounds. Multiply that by what??

Just sayin' --- the gov has a lot of guys around using this stuff up.

They (the u.s. gov) doesn't use full auto anymore. They have gone to a burst of 3 rounds. 1.8 billion rounds....yeah that's a lot of training. :confused59:

[Tony_SS]

They (the u.s. gov) doesn't use full auto anymore. They have gone to a burst of 3 rounds. 1.8 billion rounds....yeah that's a lot of training. :confused59:

I thought so too, but then there is this.

DHS buys 7000 full-auto assault rifles, calls them 'personal defense weapons'
http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DHS_assault_weapons_documents.html

[intocarss]

Teach em right!! :thumbsup:

ZKw42qk6lwM

[Vince@Meanstreets]

They (the u.s. gov) doesn't use full auto anymore. They have gone to a burst of 3 rounds. 1.8 billion rounds....yeah that's a lot of training. :confused59:

That would apply to our highly trained military. We are talking DHS here. They need all the help they can get. LOL, Im more concerned of the ok'd use of drones to be used against US citizens on foriegn and domestic soil. Scary stuff.
I was listening to a report on KCBS this morning about the increase in formations of Patriot groups nation wide. In the same sentence a government spokesman used "Extremist" and "Domestic Terrorist" in the same sentance. It seems they are now lumping Samual Adams and the like in with Al Ciada. Not only is he rolling in his grave but he is also reaching for his musket.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Teach em right!! :thumbsup:

ZKw42qk6lwM

underground assasins training

[Spiffav8]

That would apply to our highly trained military. We are talking DHS here. They need all the help they can get. LOL, Im more concerned of the ok'd use of drones to be used against US citizens on foriegn and domestic soil. Scary stuff.
I was listening to a report on KCBS this morning about the increase in formations of Patriot groups nation wide. In the same sentence a government spokesman used "Extremist" and "Domestic Terrorist" in the same sentance. It seems they are now lumping Samual Adams and the like in with Al Ciada. Not only is he rolling in his grave but he is also reaching for his musket.

It's funny how they throw out those terms (Extremist/Domestic Terrorist). The government is always changing the definition of things like that. Makes you wonder how long it would be before you where targeted.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

It's funny how they throw out those terms (Extremist/Domestic Terrorist). The government is always changing the definition of things like that. Makes you wonder how long it would be before you where targeted.

ME? Why what did you hear? :confused59: LOL

[Spiffav8]

ME? Why what did you hear? :confused59: LOL

Yeah man...it's all over Facebook. Anyone that goes by Vince has been added to the terrorist watch list. You should probably stay inside so those drones can't track you. That or just :hello: every time you go outside. It'll make the wonder what you're really up to.

:peepwall:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

so much for being off grid. :hairpullout:

[GregWeld]

If this goes thru - I'm moving there!

HAHAHAHAHA



http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/11/17266443-a-gun-for-every-home-maine-town-to-vote-on-mandatory-firearm-ownership?lite

[Spiffav8]

If this goes thru - I'm moving there!

HAHAHAHAHA



http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/11/17266443-a-gun-for-every-home-maine-town-to-vote-on-mandatory-firearm-ownership?lite

I can only imagine the population growth they will see.

[Tony_SS]

If this goes thru - I'm moving there!

HAHAHAHAHA



http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/11/17266443-a-gun-for-every-home-maine-town-to-vote-on-mandatory-firearm-ownership?lite

It's the Law in Kennesaw (and has been for a LONG time)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb-11df-b53e-00144feab49a.html#slide0

[Vegas69]

If you have a push button safe and especially if you have kids, make sure you look....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebertobias/2012/07/27/unsafe-gun-safes-can-be-opened-by-a-three-year-old/

[Che70velle]

It's the Law in Kennesaw (and has been for a LONG time)

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5c1b6a72-c5eb-11df-b53e-00144feab49a.html#slide0

Yes it is, and the picture there of Mr. Myers is no joke. He looks like that everyday. On the flip side of this, there is another small town not far from Kennesaw, called Acworth, where everybody is supposed to own a fishing pole.
I lived in Kennesaw for a short while many years ago.

[nicks67ca]

If you have a push button safe and especially if you have kids, make sure you look....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebertobias/2012/07/27/unsafe-gun-safes-can-be-opened-by-a-three-year-old/

Thanks that is some serious design flaws. I have been in the market for a style like that instead of keeping everything in the big safe. I need to do some more homework.

[Tony_SS]

If you have a push button safe and especially if you have kids, make sure you look....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebertobias/2012/07/27/unsafe-gun-safes-can-be-opened-by-a-three-year-old/

Stack On is obvious junk.. you couldn't pay me to use those.

I do like my GunVault.. I've used it for over 4 years.

[GregWeld]

Just buy a real safe...... :G-Dub: :lol: :lol: :lol:





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Shop%20Pix/IMG_3161.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'm still looking for the right safe...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/geraldo_zps003d8dae.jpg

[Vegas69]

The point to take is that those type of safes are normally used for a loaded handgun in a nightstand or close to bed.

[GregWeld]

The point to take is that those type of safes are normally used for a loaded handgun in a nightstand or close to bed.



Oh.... that'd be great to have when some dipwad is standing at the foot of your bed in the middle of the night.



:guns: :lol: :lol:

[out2kayak]

Pretty interesting:

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:cheers:

[intocarss]

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[intocarss]

"Colorado Representative Diana DeGette, and to think her, and many like her, actually have power to write legislation".

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/...er-talk/nXCXb/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fbel4SASUPQ#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WypFNHOl5_Q

[Spiffav8]

"Colorado Representative Diana DeGette, and to think her, and many like her, actually have power to write legislation".

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/...er-talk/nXCXb/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fbel4SASUPQ#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WypFNHOl5_Q


The number of Morons in office these days is staggering. The gun debate is going to be an on going issue for years, sadly. I hope and pray that come election time that the vast majority will be voted out of office.

:flag2:

[Ketzer]

The number of Morons in office these days is staggering. The gun debate is going to be an on going issue for years, sadly. I hope and pray that come election time that the vast majority will be voted out of office.

:flag2:

Sorry Curtis, the vast majority of voters are just as stupid as that blathering dipsh!t. Doubtful an election will cure it.


Jeff-

[Vince@Meanstreets]

The number of Morons in office these days is staggering. The gun debate is going to be an on going issue for years, sadly. I hope and pray that come election time that the vast majority will be voted out of office.

:flag2:

Nope, looks like support has dropped below 50% and now they are just pushing the registration and back ground checks. I even heard Biden talking about going after the people and not the tools.

Like I said before the antis are weak. No passion. I have no idea what it will take.

[camcojb]

This is what you're dealing with. By the way, the guy doing the video is a gun supporter.

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[96z28ss]

This is what you're dealing with. By the way, the guy doing the video is a gun supporter.

2diNojgJF9c

Too many Americans have drank the Kool aid. We are headed to the Communist States of America part of the New world order.

[Bucketlist2012]

Heard about a new Study at Riverside in SoCal...

They state that there is a link to more suicides happening if you are a Gun Owner and a Conservative.....:confused59: :lostmarbles: :confused18:


I thought it was amusing.....But some will point to the "study" and claim it as Fact

[intocarss]

This is what you're dealing with. By the way, the guy doing the video is a gun supporter.

2diNojgJF9c Wow Just WOW:hairpullout:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Thats great. Did you notice no opposition or question from the sheeple except from the two teens. Love it. I wonder how many signatures he collected.

[intocarss]

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[tones2SS]

Too many Americans have drank the Kool aid. We are headed to the Communist States of America part of the New world order.

Unfortunately, you are correct wise sir. Too bad we're almost halfway there. It is very sad.

[Spiffav8]

Unfortunately, you are correct wise sir. Too bad we're almost halfway there. It is very sad.

Seriously....WTF is wrong with people?

:poke:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

saw this today and thought it would be appropriate :action-smiley-027:



http://cdn.motinetwork.net/politifake.org/image/political/1301/logic-dictates-captain-battaile-politics-1357907815.jpg

[intocarss]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/california-gun-confiscation-bill_n_3117238.html

[Ron in SoCal]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/california-gun-confiscation-bill_n_3117238.html

All made possible by registration and an overactive legistlator. Not sayin bad guys shouldn't have guns, but at this point we're halfway down the slippery slope. As soon as they decide - for whatever reason - I can't have a gun they have a reason to come in and get 'em. If I refuse, I go to jail.

Someone once said Pubs stand for individauls rights, Dems for group rights. As soon as the Dems decide my group can't have our rights, they'll take em.

Welcome to Liberal hell. :mad:

[intocarss]

All made possible by registration and an overactive legistlator. Not sayin bad guys shouldn't have guns, but at this point we're halfway down the slippery slope. As soon as they decide - for whatever reason - I can't have a gun they have a reason to come in and get 'em. If I refuse, I go to jail.

Someone once said Pubs stand for individauls rights, Dems for group rights. As soon as the Dems decide my group can't have our rights, they'll take em.

Welcome to Liberal hell. :mad: I like that I am going to use it ..OK?

[Ron in SoCal]

Absolutely Jerry.

Just wait till THEY think WE can't have our cars. It happened to personal water craft, it happened to custom bikes, THEY tried to put catalytic converters in boat engine bays until THEY found out it'll start a fire (after a law was passed and the coast guard publicly stated they wouldn't, couldn't afford to enforce).

Time to join SEMA-SAN and any other association the will stand up for my group's rights.

Sorry for the rant, I'm jet lagged and grumpy.

[intocarss]

Absolutely Jerry.

Just wait till THEY think WE can't have our cars. It happened to personal water craft, it happened to custom bikes, THEY tried to put catalytic converters in boat engine bays until THEY found out it'll start a fire (after a law was passed and the coast guard publicly stated they wouldn't, couldn't afford to enforce).

Time to join SEMA-SAN and any other association the will stand up for my group's rights.

Sorry for the rant, I'm jet lagged and grumpy.

I hear ya Ron!! You remember years ago here in Ca they wanted catalytic converters on fast food places lolol

[garickman]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/california-gun-confiscation-bill_n_3117238.html

Not understanding why this is a bad thing.

[intocarss]

Not understanding why this is a bad thing. If you don't deserve to own a gun then you shouldn't and they should take it from you..BUT IMOHO this opens a door for them to say "hey Jer you got 3 speeding tickets, you're not responsable enough to own a gun" and take them. Not to mention what other doors this opens

And for the record I would never ever speed on city streets
:headspin:

[Spiffav8]

If you don't deserve to own a gun then you shouldn't and they should take it from you..BUT IMOHO this opens a door for them to say "hey Jer you got 3 speeding tickets, you're not responsable enough to own a gun" and take them. Not to mention what other doors this opens

And for the record I would never ever speed on city streets
:headspin:

If you don't have the right to own a gun then you can't buy one legally. They need to put teeth behind the laws in place that punish people for attempting to do so.

I agree and your example is 100% spot on. It sounds good, but liberals love change and that means the rules will constantly change (if they get their way). One day you are a perfect citizen who is allowed to own a gun under their rules, the next day your not.

Only recently have I started to understand why groups like the NRA say "F YOU, not one change".

[garickman]

If you don't deserve to own a gun then you shouldn't and they should take it from you..BUT IMOHO this opens a door for them to say "hey Jer you got 3 speeding tickets, you're not responsable enough to own a gun" and take them. Not to mention what other doors this opens

And for the record I would never ever speed on city streets
:headspin:

I feel ya, but the article is somewhat misleading. There is no new gun confiscation legislation. The only thing SB140 does is re-assign 24 million dollars to the Department of Justice to fund a program which has already been in existence for 6 years. It is called the Armed Prohibited Persons System or APPS. It is a program not a law and it is meant to go after those persons who at one point were legally registered firearms owners who failed to turn over their firearms after they became ineligible to own those firearms.

[camcojb]

Here's some more in California. Some won't make it into law, but they just keep trying.


Earlierthis week, several anti-gun bills and one extreme anti-hunting bill passed intheir respective committees and will be next referred to their respectiveCommittee on Appropriations. Hearing dates have not been set in thosecommittees and your NRA will inform you of those dates when they becomeavailable.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Assembly Bill 711 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/24706/0/)(Rendon) BANS the use of all lead ammunition for hunting. AB 711passed in the state Assembly Committeeon Water, Parks and Wildlife by a 9 to 5 vote (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/25094/0/).

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Assembly Bill 231 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/24761/0/)(Ting) expands the law for Criminal Storage of Firearms and childaccess. AB 231 passed in the state AssemblyCommittee on Public Safety by a 5 to 2 vote (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/25095/0/).



Thefollowing bills all passed in the state Senate Committee on Public Safety by a5 to 2 vote.

Thefollowing Senators opposed the below anti-gun bills: Senators: Joel Andersonand Steve Knight. The following Senators supported the below anti-gunbills: Senator Loni Hancock, Marty Block, Kevin de Leon, Carol Liu andDarrell Steinberg.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 47 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/20930/0/)(Yee) expands the definition of “assault weapons” to BAN the futuresale of rifles that have been designed/sold and are equipped to use the“bullet button” or similar device, requires NEW “assaultweapon” registration of ALL those semi-auto rifles that are currentlypossessed to retain legal possession in the future, and subjects thesefirearms to all other “assault weapons” restrictions.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 53 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/25097/0/)(DeLeon) requires persons to buy an annual ammunition purchase permit,requires the registration and thumbprint of the purchaser for each ammunitionpurchase, and bans online and mail order sales of ammunition toCalifornians.

Senate Bill 108 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/20931/0/)(Yee) requires mandatory locked storage of firearms within a locked houseregardless of whether anyone is present.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 293 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23797/0/)(DeSaulnier) BANS the sale of conventional handguns, ifthe state Department of Justice approves the sale of “OwnerAuthorized – Smart” handgun technology.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 299 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23798/0/)(DeSaulnier) turns victims of firearm theft into criminals for failing toreport the loss of their firearm within 48 hours.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 374 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/22172/0/)(Steinberg) expands the definition of "assault weapons" to BANthe future transfer of all semi-auto rifles that accept detachablemagazines (including those chambered for rimfire cartridges) and virtually allsemi-auto rifles with fixed magazines (primarily those chambered for rimfirecartridges), requires NEW "assault weapon" registration, requiresregistration of ALL those semi-auto rifles that are currently possessed toretain legal possession in the future, and subjects these firearms to all other"assault weapon" restrictions.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 396 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23799/0/)(Hancock) BANS the POSSESSION of any magazine with a capacityto accept more than ten cartridges,including currently legally possessed"grandfathered large capacity”magazines.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 567 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23800/0/)(Jackson) expands the definition of shotgun for “short-barreled shotguns”that are illegal to own.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 755 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/24762/0/)(Wolk) expands the list of persons prohibited from owning a firearm.



Yesterday,anti-gun AssemblyBill 169 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23795/0/) (Dickinson), which BANS the sale of handguns not on thestate-approved roster, passed in the Assembly Public Safety Committeeby a 12 to 5 vote (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/25096/0/). AB 169 will now be sent to the full Assembly for consideration.
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[Spiffav8]

Here's some more in California. Some won't make it into law, but they just keep trying.


Earlierthis week, several anti-gun bills and one extreme anti-hunting bill passed intheir respective committees and will be next referred to their respectiveCommittee on Appropriations. Hearing dates have not been set in thosecommittees and your NRA will inform you of those dates when they becomeavailable.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Assembly Bill 711 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/24706/0/)(Rendon) BANS the use of all lead ammunition for hunting. AB 711passed in the state Assembly Committeeon Water, Parks and Wildlife by a 9 to 5 vote (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/25094/0/).

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Assembly Bill 231 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/24761/0/)(Ting) expands the law for Criminal Storage of Firearms and childaccess. AB 231 passed in the state AssemblyCommittee on Public Safety by a 5 to 2 vote (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/25095/0/).



Thefollowing bills all passed in the state Senate Committee on Public Safety by a5 to 2 vote.

Thefollowing Senators opposed the below anti-gun bills: Senators: Joel Andersonand Steve Knight. The following Senators supported the below anti-gunbills: Senator Loni Hancock, Marty Block, Kevin de Leon, Carol Liu andDarrell Steinberg.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 47 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/20930/0/)(Yee) expands the definition of “assault weapons” to BAN the futuresale of rifles that have been designed/sold and are equipped to use the“bullet button” or similar device, requires NEW “assaultweapon” registration of ALL those semi-auto rifles that are currentlypossessed to retain legal possession in the future, and subjects thesefirearms to all other “assault weapons” restrictions.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 53 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/25097/0/)(DeLeon) requires persons to buy an annual ammunition purchase permit,requires the registration and thumbprint of the purchaser for each ammunitionpurchase, and bans online and mail order sales of ammunition toCalifornians.

Senate Bill 108 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/20931/0/)(Yee) requires mandatory locked storage of firearms within a locked houseregardless of whether anyone is present.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 293 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23797/0/)(DeSaulnier) BANS the sale of conventional handguns, ifthe state Department of Justice approves the sale of “OwnerAuthorized – Smart” handgun technology.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 299 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23798/0/)(DeSaulnier) turns victims of firearm theft into criminals for failing toreport the loss of their firearm within 48 hours.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 374 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/22172/0/)(Steinberg) expands the definition of "assault weapons" to BANthe future transfer of all semi-auto rifles that accept detachablemagazines (including those chambered for rimfire cartridges) and virtually allsemi-auto rifles with fixed magazines (primarily those chambered for rimfirecartridges), requires NEW "assault weapon" registration, requiresregistration of ALL those semi-auto rifles that are currently possessed toretain legal possession in the future, and subjects these firearms to all other"assault weapon" restrictions.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 396 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23799/0/)(Hancock) BANS the POSSESSION of any magazine with a capacityto accept more than ten cartridges,including currently legally possessed"grandfathered large capacity”magazines.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 567 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23800/0/)(Jackson) expands the definition of shotgun for “short-barreled shotguns”that are illegal to own.

http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png (http://www.nraila.org/media/7812733/image002.png) Senate Bill 755 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/24762/0/)(Wolk) expands the list of persons prohibited from owning a firearm.



Yesterday,anti-gun AssemblyBill 169 (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/23795/0/) (Dickinson), which BANS the sale of handguns not on thestate-approved roster, passed in the Assembly Public Safety Committeeby a 12 to 5 vote (http://www.nramedia.org/t/1459877/80769047/25096/0/). AB 169 will now be sent to the full Assembly for consideration.
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California is fricking crazy. :lostmarbles: Why do so many sane people still live there? Seriously the weather isn't that nice!

[Shmoov69]

I often wonder the same thing Curtis!!:lostmarbles:

[Vince@Meanstreets]

California is fricking crazy. :lostmarbles: Why do so many sane people still live there? Seriously the weather isn't that nice!

I was born and raised and would not live anywhere else. I guess if I love it I will put up with the legalities, trust me, most CA laws will eventually be nation wide anyways. And don't give me that earthquakes garbage. If your on the Earth your gonna get it. We are built for it and anything over 6.0 is a rare occurance. I don't even get out of bed for them 4.0 quakes.

The constant high pressure lingering is phenomenal.

[hectore3]

I was born and raised and would not live anywhere else. I guess if I love it I will put up with the legalities, trust me, most CA laws will eventually be nation wide anyways. And don't give me that earthquakes garbage. If your on the Earth your gonna get it. We are built for it and anything over 6.0 is a rare occurance. I don't even get out of bed for them 4.0 quakes.

The constant high pressure lingering is phenomenal.

I will take that bet sir. And as long as California fiscal situation continues to get worse their laws won't spread as far and wide as they think.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

No thanks Hec, Im not a betting specially with ******* hot heads. LOL


The spread of laws have nothing to do with CA maintaining its budgets. Its what the legi can get away with and how it is taken.
Some states have already adopted smog/emission laws that where created in CA. There is already talk of the CA blend fuels being used in other states. CA has been a test bed for many things and its just a matter of time.

Tell me, how long has Mass had the 10 magazine limit on semi auto weapons?

[Spiffav8]

I was born and raised and would not live anywhere else. I guess if I love it I will put up with the legalities, trust me, most CA laws will eventually be nation wide anyways. And don't give me that earthquakes garbage. If your on the Earth your gonna get it. We are built for it and anything over 6.0 is a rare occurance. I don't even get out of bed for them 4.0 quakes.

The constant high pressure lingering is phenomenal.

Yeah....no earth quake jokes from me. I can respect that you may be willing to live somewhere because it's a great place and certain laws don't mean much to you. However, I have to ask....what the heck makes you think/believe that the rest of the nation is going to adopt your states laws?

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Not sure, Our leaders have no imagination and barely have a clue on what is going on. Im not just talking about the gun issues .I suppose we will see what happens.

The laws do bother me but it's not enough of a deal to pick up and leave my home , friends, family and business over.

[Spiffav8]

Not sure, Our leaders have no imagination and barely have a clue on what is going on. Im not just talking about the gun issues .I suppose we will see what happens.

The laws do bother me but it's not enough of a deal to pick up and leave my home , friends, family and business over.

Understandable. There's a line for everyone and those would be hard to leave behind. Hope it never crosses that line for you.

[garickman]

The laws do bother me but it's not enough of a deal to pick up and leave my home , friends, family and business over. OH, and this bad ass firebird I am working on.

I fixed your quote for you Vince.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

I fixed your quote for you Vince.

I have no idea what you are speaking of....no build threads to speak of. :confused59:

Understandable. There's a line for everyone and those would be hard to leave behind. Hope it never crosses that line for you. We'll see, the fight is on and sometimes its good to be on the front line. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=71

[GregWeld]

This is interesting info......




http://www.foac-pac.org/updates-news/790-paul-r-beane-right-wing-gun-nut-you-decide

[intocarss]

I got this in an E mail


In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.



In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan.



In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.



In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.



In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.



In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people in a school.



One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.



Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

SOLUTION: It should simply be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

[nicks67ca]

This is a good read.

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/opinion/article_1c144792-b36d-11e2-8ac6-001a4bcf887a.html

[camcojb]

This is a good read.

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/opinion/article_1c144792-b36d-11e2-8ac6-001a4bcf887a.html
Long but worth it.

[Tony_SS]

You may not believe in God or owning a gun, but when someone breaks into your house, the first thing you will do is call someone with a gun, and pray to God they get there in time.

[RussMurco]

I can't believe this thread is still going!