View Full Version : Accel DFI wins, again!
supremeefi
12-14-2012, 06:36 AM
Just an FYI, the latest EMC has been completed and published.
It seems the "outdated" Accel Gen 7, as some have described it, is on top again for the second time in 3 years. No. 1!
And if you look through the rest of the field Accel was well represented, beating other "newer" systems hands down.
I'm only here to dispell the internet bs. It's still one of the best, and in some ways the others are still trying to catch up.
Just keep one thing in mind. Just because some companies advertise the most doesn't automatically mean they're the best.
Thanks Guys.
T_Raven
12-14-2012, 09:02 AM
What's an EMC?
I have DFI I'll be putting on my 455
JKnight
12-14-2012, 09:23 AM
Engine Masters Challenge? I don't know, just guessing.
I don't know squat about FI or controllers, but would be curious to know what criteria are they using? What kind of testing? Best for street use? all out race?
supremeefi
12-14-2012, 10:58 AM
Engine Masters Challenge? I don't know, just guessing.
I don't know squat about FI or controllers, but would be curious to know what criteria are they using? What kind of testing? Best for street use? all out race?
Yes, the Engine Masters Challenge.
It would depend on your intended use as to what might be the best system for you.
If you're going to do drag only or most of the time, then i'd probably do a BS3. The drag guys like it because it will drive 24 injectors, most will only drive 16. Plus it has more capacity to datalog and will do it internally. On the flipside it only has a few transient (driving) fueling tables so there are better systems for the street or street/strip.
The Accel, FAST etc, do a lot of neat stuff as well, but if you're going to drive it, the Accel has more tables that effect that than any other in this price class.
Hope this helps.
I'm running a Holley EFI and the user interface is super simple. Plus it has a self tuning/learning feature which is slick. FAST interface is quite a challenge to learn and is not as easy to use as the Holley. I've never seen the Accel in action... but I know it works :)
I would definitely also look closely at the Holley for those looking at aftermarket EFI. Recently they have released a traction control module made by Davis Technologies as well using the driveshaft speed for its calculations.
T_Raven
01-23-2013, 04:21 AM
So a few weeks ago I ordered a dual sync distributor for my Pontiac, and the guy I ordered from just informed me a couple days ago that Accel discontinued it and decided not to fill existing orders.
I'm not too upset about it because I'd like to swap to individual coils and hide them. Obviously I need to figure out how to drive the oil pump with no distributor. I know guys have cut up distributors to do this so it shouldn't be too much of an obstacle.
My question is what options are there for crank and cam sensors? Accel's website could be a lot better for the DFI stuff. If they offer something, I can't find it.
Any input anyone can give would be appreciated :)
takid455
01-23-2013, 07:53 AM
x2 on the above
Denvervet
01-23-2013, 08:44 AM
I'm pretty sure MSD now has a dual pickup distributor. You're lucky you didn't get the dual sync...I had mine last less than 300 miles last year before it croaked. Something inherently bad with the design.
supremeefi
01-25-2013, 02:31 PM
So a few weeks ago I ordered a dual sync distributor for my Pontiac, and the guy I ordered from just informed me a couple days ago that Accel discontinued it and decided not to fill existing orders.
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That's total and complete Bullshyt! Who'd you order it from? Does that really make sense? "Oh we don't want the business". Really? Your guy just wanted to sell you something he carries, plain and simple. Please tell us who it is.
Email me, I'll get you one at a competitive price.
Or you can use just about anybodys crank trigger and cam sensor. It'll hook to the existing dual sync harness.
And yes they had troubles before with the reluctor wheels. They have since redesigned the whole distributor since the summer of last year. And they do have a warranty as well, I believe it's 6 months from date of purchase.
Mark
[email protected]
T_Raven
01-25-2013, 10:29 PM
That's total and complete Bullshyt! Who'd you order it from? Does that really make sense? "Oh we don't want the business". Really? Your guy just wanted to sell you something he carries, plain and simple. Please tell us who it is.
Email me, I'll get you one at a competitive price.
Or you can use just about anybodys crank trigger and cam sensor. It'll hook to the existing dual sync harness.
And yes they had troubles before with the reluctor wheels. They have since redesigned the whole distributor since the summer of last year. And they do have a warranty as well, I believe it's 6 months from date of purchase.
Mark
[email protected]
He didn't try to sell me anything else though lol. I had already paid for everything weeks ago and he refunded the money and said they discontinued it. If you want to make sure you can get it, let me know if u can and if I decide that's what I want I'll order from you. I'm more interested in using individual coils now though
supremeefi
01-26-2013, 07:14 AM
He didn't try to sell me anything else though lol. I had already paid for everything weeks ago and he refunded the money and said they discontinued it. If you want to make sure you can get it, let me know if u can and if I decide that's what I want I'll order from you. I'm more interested in using individual coils now though
Pm'd you.
For all, I called my contact at Accel yesterday after I read this post. He confirmed this was bs, and they haven't "decided not to fill existing orders".
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Also Mallory will be introducing the Firestorm box very shortly. It will plug right into the Gen 7 as well as others and give the control of single or individual coils. I won't go into all the features but you can go to their website for further info.
Thanks guys.
Fishin2deep4u
01-26-2013, 08:31 PM
Hey t raven,
I am going the same route on my 455. I am going to use a ford can position sensor on a custom sleeve mount. This will require turning down the distributor, but will allow for an ev or halls type sensor.
Check over on performance years. I am prototyping now, but may be a simple solution.
Dave
T_Raven
01-26-2013, 08:36 PM
Thanks Mark. Good to know they can still make one but I'm glad he canceled my order for whatever reason. After I'd already paid I started thinking about individual coils. Got some body and suspension work to do first so I'll wait and see what Mallory is coming out with.
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