Two Dyno days one winner

[FETorino]

I'll plead guilty there. It was a chat Rob and I had where we were comparing wheelbase and track width.

:mock:

:poke:

:D

I just liked the picture. :snapout: It isn't all about you DG :mock:

[Sieg]

:idea: You could fit that SBD car in the Torino trunk and use it as a support vehicle. :D

[Flash68]

It isn't all about you DG :mock:

It may not be yet... but once my motor is done in 2014 it will be.

:rules:

[FETorino]

It may not be yet... but once my motor is done in 2014 it will be.

:rules:

OK now I understand "soon" it means less than eight months :action-smiley-027:

[Flash68]

:idea: You could fit that SBD car in the Torino trunk and use it as a support vehicle. :D

By "support" do you mean have a ride home when the Torino isn't cooperative?

Support vehicle must be a Chevy. Naturally.

:action-smiley-027:

[FETorino]

Support vehicle must be a Chevy. Naturally.

:action-smiley-027:

:snapout: Like your daily driver :D

[Flash68]

:snapout: Like your daily driver :D

That's a Toyota with 343k miles. :animated_bye_bye_em

The clown car is a Ford. :D

[FETorino]

That's a Toyota with 343k miles = Not a Chevy :animated_bye_bye_em

The clown car is a Ford. :D

Like you said

[Sieg]

By "support" do you mean have a ride home when the Torino isn't cooperative?

:snapout: I would NEVER imply such a thing.............:lmao:

[Flash68]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/v10_i2_emcar2_zpsfaa78c41.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/v10_i2_emcar2_zpsfaa78c41.jpg.html)

[FETorino]

I'll find out more tmrw. :underchair:




:D

:idea: Bring this maybe it will help explain your goal. :underchair:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/engine_FE02_zpsb2794671.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/engine_FE02_zpsb2794671.jpg.html)

[intocarss]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/v10_i2_emcar2_zpsfaa78c41.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/v10_i2_emcar2_zpsfaa78c41.jpg.html) What is that, A beer cozy with wheels??

[fleetus macmullitz]

OK now I understand "soon" it means less than eight months :action-smiley-027:

I sense invites going out for DG's 'engine' shower soon...

[Flash68]

soon....

I sense invites going out for DG's 'engine' shower soon...

I lied. Heads have been sent back east to Nascar country for some non-Nascar port work.... when in Rome.... what? :lostmarbles: :sieg:

And like I told Rob, it's not like there's a car waiting for this motor get put in and go. Just a dyno contest thread that I am good at stretching out....

xNV-ozPXn60

[fleetus macmullitz]

I lied. Heads have been sent back east to Nascar country for some non-Nascar port work.... when in Rome.... what? :lostmarbles: :sieg:

And like I told Rob, it's not like there's a car waiting for this motor get put in and go. Just a dyno contest thread that I am good at stretching out....


http://forums.themustangsource.com/images/smilies/blah.gif



lol

[Sieg]

http://forums.themustangsource.com/images/smilies/blah.gif



lol
http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/hurryup.gif

[FETorino]

I lied. Heads have been sent back east to Nascar country for some non-Nascar port work.... when in Rome.... what? :lostmarbles: :sieg:


DG has a new goal. Spend $51k building a Chevy :rolleyes:

[Track Junky]

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/clouda9/Food/deereatingpopcorn.gif

[Flash68]

DG has a new goal. Spend $51k building a Chevy :rolleyes:

Shiat... I better get a full suspension, wheels, an engine, and much more for that number..... :underchair:

Or I could get an IRS and an FE.... pretty easy choice there. :action-smiley-027:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/clouda9/Food/deereatingpopcorn.gif

Did you send that from your iphone? :D

[Track Junky]

Did you send that from your iphone? :D

Clever :lolhit:

[Ron in SoCal]

Shiat... I better get a full suspension, wheels, an engine, and much more for that number..... :underchair:

Or I could get an IRS and an FE.... pretty easy choice there. :action-smiley-027:
:D

Naw, all you need is a billet pan :D

[FETorino]

Shiat... I better get a full suspension, wheels, an engine, and much more for that number..... :underchair:

Or I could get an IRS and an FE.... pretty easy choice there. :action-smiley-027:




No matter what get a contract before you hand over the $$:poke:

[Flash68]

Naw, all you need is a billet pan :D

I am on my 3rd and final oil pan for this dang engine. :sieg:

No matter what get a contract before you hand over the $$:poke:

Too late. I better go over there tmrw and see if the shop is still there. :G-Dub:

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/the-bro-code_zpsae392f78.jpg (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/real3/media/the-bro-code_zpsae392f78.jpg.html)

[FETorino]

I should have just used a set of Blairs pro port Edelbrocks. :headscratch:

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?action=post;quote=9235;topic=1074.0;last _msg=9237


Information is a little sketchy on this one at the moment; Blair has promised to come on in a few days and provide some more details. But these dyno numbers are unreal for what this engine is:

http://fepower.net/Photos/Posts/BP506.jpg

Photo quality of the dyno sheet is poor because it was taken with Blair's cell phone camera. I have never seen an 800 lb-ft FE except for my big SOHC, and that engine was 585 cubic inches. This engine is only 506 cubic inches. That is a very, very impressive torque number. And the horsepower peak of 911 HP from 6400 to 6600 RPM is also really impressive.

I spoke with Blair on the phone tonight for a while about this engine. Apparently it is basically one of his Super Stock FEs, but with more cubic inches, less compression, and a smaller cam. His normal 427-based super stock engines turn to 9000 RPM to make this kind of horsepower. Compression ratio on this engine is 13:1, and the cam is a 270@ .050" duration cam with about .700" lift. The idea behind the engine is that the reciprocating assembly and cam can be changed and the engine will turn into a legal super stocker. The heads are Blair's pro-port Edelbrock heads, and the intake is a tunnel ram style intake with two 715cfm Holleys. Blair pointed out that the heads and intake were ported and tuned together on his flow bench, to really optimize the combination.

That's about all I know at the moment, but I'm sure we'll hear more in the coming days...

[FETorino]

Wait... what? How many cubes you got? :lol: You know if I was smart I woulda said we compare hp/tq per cubic inch! :willy:

You go first....good...so I can turn up the wick when it's my turn. :unibrow:

I'd have to guess (hope) I'll be on the dyno by November. :lateral:

Dart Little M block
4.170 bore x 4.00 stroke = 437 cubes
10.8 to 1 compression
Joe Gibbs SB2.2 heads
Ported GM intake
Single 4150 Holley style carb (will dyno 2-3 carbs)
6 stage dry sump system

I guess he meant Nov 2013:stirthepot:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Sounds like the whole contest is going up in smoke...

http://northernutahrealestatenews.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/bbq-fire1.jpg


:innocent:

:D

[FETorino]

Sounds like the whole contest is going up in smoke...

http://northernutahrealestatenews.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/bbq-fire1.jpg


:innocent:

:D

That looks like the BBQ spot Brian took us to in TX.:rofl:

[fleetus macmullitz]

That looks like the BBQ spot Brian took us to in TX.:rofl:

:lol:


Really?

Semi-:innocent:

[waynieZ]

Sounds like the whole contest is going up in smoke...

http://northernutahrealestatenews.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/bbq-fire1.jpg


:innocent:

:D

I don't see anything ?? That's what it looks like every time I cook on the grill.:headspin:

[GregWeld]

Nuthin' beats a good hot fire for grillin' !!!

[Flash68]

I guess he meant Nov 2013:stirthepot:

Dangit.. what can I say?

Poor project management -- that's what can I say. :hitaxeonthehead:


Just you wait.... just a little longer.... :D

[intocarss]

More pics of the BBQ please

[Vegas69]

Somebody mentioned Henry Ford's model T power plant taking down you know who's sb2 at my wedding reception and this is what ensued:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa251/Payback1969/Todd_Kelli-479_zps462f1346.jpg (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/Payback1969/media/Todd_Kelli-479_zps462f1346.jpg.html)

[GregWeld]

Great photo!


Who is it????

[Vegas69]

Not sure but I hope the jacket was a rental....

[GregWeld]

Probably a friend on the bride's side.... Looks kinda girlish giggly don't ya think?

[Flash68]

Damn that dude looks good. :rockin:

Only a real man can pull off a mauve jacket.

[FETorino]

Damn that dude looks good. :rockin:

Only a real man can pull off a mauve jacket.

:topic: :topic:

Nobody wants to see that goofy picture. Cough up the real goods :warning:

Don't make me spill the beans. I'm still a little shakey.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/cannot_be_unseen.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/cannot_be_unseen.jpg.html)

[Ron in SoCal]

Actually that's a pretty natural picture for Dave. Mouth wide open, no one else in the pic or listening. :innocent:

[GregWeld]

No way they're letting that dude in a decent BBQ joint.....

[Track Junky]

Takes some big cojones to wear a jacket like that. Although with that look he'd make a good replacement for Ryan Seacrest.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Actually that's a pretty natural picture for Dave. Mouth wide open, no one else in the pic or listening. :innocent:

:lol:

Ron,

Good timing on your part. Bad on mine. Just before I saw this, I took a bigg swigg 'o water...


http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/dribble.gif

[Flash68]

Actually that's a pretty natural picture for Dave. Mouth wide open, no one else in the pic or listening. :innocent:

Ron Ron Ron... you of all people with that comment. :poke:

No way they're letting that dude in a decent BBQ joint.....

Why.. did you find one in Austin yet?

Takes some big cojones to wear a jacket like that. Although with that look he'd make a good replacement for Ryan Seacrest.

I have no idea who that is. :peepwall:

[Flash68]

Cough up the real goods :warning:

Don't make me spill the beans. I'm still a little shakey.



These beans?

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/EFE7DD2D-CC0E-4FC1-8709-0FFD5CA90AEE-2458-000003E92E406D95_zpsf2e0ecbd.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/EFE7DD2D-CC0E-4FC1-8709-0FFD5CA90AEE-2458-000003E92E406D95_zpsf2e0ecbd.jpg.html)

[fleetus macmullitz]

Actually that's a pretty natural picture for Dave. Mouth wide open, no one else in the pic or listening. :innocent:

Ron Ron Ron... you of all people with that comment. :poke:


Ron,

As your temporary counsel (I can't continue at these loss leader prices), I must advise against openly criticizing any owner of a non-LS engine.

However, LS on LS hate and/or Furd on Furd hate you are on solid legal ground.

:sarcasm_smiley:


Or not...

:lol:


These beans?


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/EFE7DD2D-CC0E-4FC1-8709-0FFD5CA90AEE-2458-000003E92E406D95_zpsf2e0ecbd.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/EFE7DD2D-CC0E-4FC1-8709-0FFD5CA90AEE-2458-000003E92E406D95_zpsf2e0ecbd.jpg.html)

Thems is some healthy lookin' legumes!

http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/respekt.gif

[Flash68]

I must advise against openly criticizing any owner of a non-LS engine.



Now there is a man of principle. :sieg:

[Sieg]

Now there is a man of principle. :sieg:

+ :sieg: :sieg:

[FETorino]

Ron,

As your temporary counsel (I can't continue at these loss leader prices), I must advise against openly criticizing any owner of a non-LS engine.

However, LS on LS hate and/or Furd on Furd hate you are on solid legal ground.

:sarcasm_smiley:


Or not...

:lol:




Thems is some healthy lookin' legumes!

http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/respekt.gif

Can't we all just get along and leave this as an anti LS thread:grouphug:


If there was any indication that these parts would someday actually be a complete motor I might be worried.:buttkick: :lmao:

At this point it's still my 7 month old dyno #s against nothing. :stirthepot:

[Flash68]

Can't we all just get along and leave this as an anti LS thread:grouphug:


Yes.



At this point it's still my 7 month old dyno #s against nothing. :stirthepot:

Again, it's the last one standing... not the first one to show up. :bitchslap:

[FETorino]

Yes.



Again, it's the last one standing... not the first one to show up. :bitchslap:

Bring it. :guns: I'll still take you on the avg numbers even if you hit the peak.

:cheers: :cheers:

[Ron in SoCal]

Bring it. :guns: I'll still take you on the avg numbers even if you hit the peak.

:cheers: :cheers:

After 31 pages you're backpedaling? :smiley_smack:

[FETorino]

After 31 pages you're backpedaling? :smiley_smack:

BRING IT :headscratch: is backpedaling? 40 years of GM development twords his spec car heads isn't going to help him head to head against a real NASCAR motor.:warning:

[Flash68]

45 year old cast iron Tunnelport heads. Intake flow #s on a conservative flow bench.



I'd have to guess (hope) I'll be on the dyno by end of November. :lateral:



Now these oldie but goodies are :lol:

[Flash68]

Getting closer... had an interesting scare the other day.... could not find my intake manifold.... we finally discovered it was 3000 miles away from where I thought it was. :sieg:

I am definitely out of the running for project manager of the week.

:buttkick:

[GregWeld]

OKay ----- How do you just accidentally lose an intake manifold??

[Flash68]

OKay ----- How do you just accidentally lose an intake manifold??

Um. Because it's me. :twak:

I had not thought it was being sent (boxed and sent by my engine builder) to the head guy back in Virginia with the heads... but they were... and I'm kinda glad they were. Love it when things don't go as planned but work out for the better in the end. :secret:

It's better to be lucky than smart sometimes. Or every time. :trophy-1302:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Um. Because it's me. :twak:

I had not thought it was being sent (boxed and sent by my engine builder) to the head guy back in Virginia with the heads... but they were... and I'm kinda glad they were. Love it when things don't go as planned but work out for the better in the end. :secret:

It's better to be lucky than smart sometimes. Or every time. :trophy-1302:

DG,

So did they make any mods to the manifold?

[FETorino]

DG,

So did they make any mods to the manifold?

:secret: These answers will be revealed on a need to know basis :secret:

DG needs to know what he is talking about before he can answer :lmao:

[Vegas69]

We'll have achieved world peace by the time this thread is done. :D

[GregWeld]

It's better to be lucky than smart sometimes. Or every time. :trophy-1302:




Yeah! You're lucky because you married Susie and she's smart!

[Flash68]

DG,

So did they make any mods to the manifold?

Not that I know of... yet.

:secret: These answers will be revealed on a need to know basis :secret:

DG needs to know what he is talking about before he can answer :lmao:

Fact. :twak:

We'll have achieved world peace by the time this thread is done. :D

I didn't know there were organized world peace discussions going on right now and they were about to wrap it all up with full resolution. :rules:

Yeah! You're lucky because you married Susie and she's smart!

But wouldn't that make me smart too for marrying her? :headspin:

[Flash68]

I wanna play!

437sbc, Dart aluminum block , est. 11.5/1, for pump 93
400+ cfm RFD 15* heads
Ported Mopar 5007420 single plane
Holley 950 ultra, may upgrade to a Braswell or Prosystems with road race floats
Solid roller custom spec'd by my builder
Callies lightweight rotating ass, Diamond pistons, Morel lifters, Jesel pro Series, Blah, blah blah

Should be on the dyno in Dec. Hoping for close to 800hp, 650tq

Dolf -- I'd like to hear about your numbers.

Placed my order for personalized licensed plates.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/showPlateImage.jpg

Thought I just bring this little gem back up top.

[FETorino]

Dolf -- I'd like to hear about your numbers.



Thought I just bring this little gem back up top.

Man... you guys shoulda seen me gettin bossed around the kitchen today.. :willy: :lol:

Happy Turkey Day fellerz. Rob won't be thankful he owns a FE motor for very much longer. :D

DG was this the gem you meant? Turkey day is that what we call the 4th of July?:lmao:

Since this is a pro touring site. How about between 3500 and 7000 or a specific rpm value over peak hp down say 3000-3500 rpm. 2500 rpm is peaky for autocross, speed stop, and street.

That is what Dave and I agreed on. I have to take my 3500-4500 data from one of my initial out of tune gas runs and add it to my final E85 pull. This should give DG a better chance at the avg game. He will still fail.:mock:

We ran a couple ease in runs from 3000 to 5 and 5500 but there is no reason to be hard on the dyno and run from 3k to 7200 so we did our tuning runs from 4500 to 7200 so that is the data I have.

Hey I'll piece in the runs from 3000 to 4500 with the rich jetting and 4 deg of timing pulled out of it to the 4500 to 7200 runs. It was still making plenty of motivation down low on the insurance tune.:D

3000 559.6 319.7
3100 567.4 334.9
3200 566.0 344.8
3300 564.3 354.6
3400 577.8 374.1
3500 579.6 386.2
3600 582.3 399.1
3700 587.4 413.8
3800 598.6 433.1
3900 599.8 445.4
4000 604.3 460.3
4100 595.7 465.0
4200 592.4 473.8
4300 591.3 484.1
4400 590.9 495.0
4500 596.5 511.1
SuperFlow


:cheers:

Here you go DG. Throw it in a spreadsheet to see what avg #s you have to pull next year when you get that SB2 on the dyno.:stirthepot: Man I wish I had a good pull in tune for that first 1000 rpm. Look at the difference at 4500:bur2: Oh well it will get the job done.

3500 579.6 386.2
3600 582.3 399.1
3700 587.4 413.8
3800 598.6 433.1
3900 599.8 445.4
4000 604.3 460.3
4100 595.7 465.0
4200 592.4 473.8
4300 591.3 484.1
4400 590.9 495.0
4500 635.3 547.2 596.5 511.1
4600 636.7 557.6
4700 638.9 571.6
4800 640.0 584.8
4900 641.7 598.6
5000 637.7 607.1
5100 636.0 617.6
5200 632.5 626.2
5300 628.3 634.0
5400 623.3 640.9
5500 625.2 654.7
5600 623.6 664.9
5700 619.9 672.8
5800 612.9 676.7
5900 608.8 683.8
6000 600.4 685.9
6100 594.3 690.3
6200 589.1 695.5
6300 582.1 698.2
6400 575.1 700.7
6500 563.1 696.8
6600 553.3 695.3
6700 542.2 691.6
6800 529.2 685.1
6900 518.1 681.2
7000 508.5 676.7

[GregWeld]

Do you two realize how many trips I've completed while you're still arguing over which motor is going to blow up first?

[Matt@BOS]

Do you two realize how many trips I've completed while you're still arguing over which motor is going to blow up first?

Assuming Dave's engine survives being built and dyno'd, wouldn't these guys need running, driving cars to argue about which motor is going to blow up first?

[Sieg]

Assuming Dave's engine survives being built and dyno'd, wouldn't these guys need running, driving cars to argue about which motor is going to blow up first?

:lmao: There ya go spotlighting the obvious. :D

Hopefully I get to see a side by side drag race before I die. :rolleyes:

[Vegas69]

If these two cars ever end up running, let alone at the same event, it will be some type of "real" miracle. :lmao:

[Flash68]

At this point I cannot even argue with you fockers..... :disgusted:

[Sieg]

At this point I cannot even argue with you fockers..... :disgusted:

http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2010/12/little-fockers-box-office.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

DG,

Sometimes folks are just in the wrong place at the wrong time...



http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/AAAAAAAUeharaslapoutofit_zps0a8f1b9f.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Funnies/AAAAAAAUeharaslapoutofit_zps0a8f1b9f.gif.html)

[Flash68]

http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2010/12/little-fockers-box-office.jpg

Yeah I am trying a new strategy. :secret:

DG,

Sometimes folks are just in the wrong place at the wrong time...



http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/Funnies/AAAAAAAUeharaslapoutofit_zps0a8f1b9f.gif (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/wnyjazz/media/Funnies/AAAAAAAUeharaslapoutofit_zps0a8f1b9f.gif.html)

:lol:

[intocarss]

At this point I cannot even argue with you fockers..... :disgusted:

THEY HAVEN'T A CLUE!! THERE'S A S**T STORM COMING AND IT'S BLUE WITH WHITE STRIPES!! :bigun2: :patriot:

[Vegas69]

I just hope he ain't old, changing diapers, and wearing a mauve jacket when he hits the track. It's bound to detune his natural talent. (What little he was born with):lol:

[GregWeld]

I just hope he ain't old, changing diapers, and wearing a mauve jacket when he hits the track. It's bound to detune his natural talent. (What little he was born with):lol:




Susie called --- said his "natural talent" has turned blue.....

[fleetus macmullitz]

Greg...you always see things through rose colored glasses. :thumbsup:


http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-121231-wall-street-01.photoblog900.jpg

"Traders wear 2013 glasses while they work on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange on Dec. 31."


Or blue.

http://www.domrep.ch/images/smilies/tv_happy.gif

[Flash68]

THEY HAVEN'T A CLUE!! THERE'S A S**T STORM COMING AND IT'S BLUE WITH WHITE STRIPES!! :bigun2: :patriot:

I'm smellin what you're steppin in. :popcorn2:


Susie called --- said his "natural talent" has turned blue.....

Like I tell her all the time... I am getting closer to my prime. :sieg:

I just hope he ain't old, changing diapers, and wearing a mauve jacket when he hits the track. It's bound to detune his natural talent. (What little he was born with):lol:

Hey, I'll take my dormant natural talent (or lack thereof) over your peak talent anyday and twice on Sunday. :bitchslap: :D

Mauve.... interesting idea for my fire suit..... :badidea: :lol:

[Flash68]

Should I change the name of this thread to "2 dyno YEARS... 1 winner"? :rolleyes:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/null_zpsa16d3160.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/null_zpsa16d3160.jpg.html)

[fleetus macmullitz]

Judging just by looks...'It's go time!' :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Should I change the name of this thread to "2 dyno YEARS... 1 winner"? :rolleyes:

Introducing the Fordinator :popcorn2:

[FETorino]

Judging just by looks...'It's go time!' :thumbsup:

Introducing the Fordinator :popcorn2:

As I said in the BMF thread and I'll repsot here since (yes Dave) not everyone looks @ the BMF thread.

That there my friends is an example of how to get hp from a SBC. :thumbsup:

:willy: I'd be lying if I didn't say I was a little scared about our dyno duel. But still ready so bring it.:guns:

Now that DG has unveiled v 2.222222222222 it ALMOST makes sense why it was a decade in the making. ALMOST.:P

Ah now for the smell of E85 in the morning and finally one of us walks away with....... Sh:censored: Dave it's been so long since we made this bet I forgot what it was. Did you write it down somewhere?:lmao:

It's just good to see you about to have a running motor.

:omg: :hapdance: :happy23: :hapdance:

Now get it on the dyno.

jkm1i2o6Ri8

:cheers:

[Flash68]

That there my friends is an example of how to get hp from a SBC. :thumbsup:







Well it hasn't made anything yet.. so it's still 700 to zero. :gitrdun:






Now that DG has unveiled v 2.222222222222 it ALMOST makes sense why it was a decade in the making. ALMOST.:P

It's just good to see you about to have a running motor.



All blame for do-overs, fvck-ups and bad purchases are on me.... but when it gets down to the end like we are approaching I don't even think about that stuff anymore. :)

No matter what the results are, this has been a great learning experience for me on several levels. :buttkick:

Let's get both of these suckers running and onto a track. :thumbsup:

[Ron Sutton]

Let's get both of these suckers running and onto a track. :thumbsup:

Yeah baby! :bigun2:

.

[badmatt]

Felpro sucks...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/972238_10151533870429007_180086847_n.jpg

that is all. :closedeyes:

[Flash68]

Felpro sucks...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/972238_10151533870429007_180086847_n.jpg

that is all. :closedeyes:

Now that's what I'm talkin about! :bigun2:

[badmatt]

Now that's what I'm talkin about! :bigun2:

What is?

[FETorino]

Felpro sucks...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q71/s720x720/972238_10151533870429007_180086847_n.jpg

that is all. :closedeyes:

Now that's what I'm talkin about! :bigun2:

What is?

These SB2s seem to make a great display piece. They look way cool but neither of them seem to run and produce and dyno #s.:lostmarbles:

:cheers:

[Flash68]

These SB2s seem to make a great display piece. They look way cool but neither of them seem to run and produce and dyno #s.:lostmarbles:

:cheers:

Matt, please unleash the fury and show mr cubes what real horsepower business is.

[FETorino]

Matt, please unleash the fury and show mr cubes what real horsepower business is.

And by real hp you mean he'll beat my average of 656hp from (whoops) 4500 to 7000?:guns:

Waiting :popcorn2:

:cheers:

[Flash68]

And by real hp you mean he'll beat my average of 656hp from 3500 to 7000?:guns:

Waiting :popcorn2:

:cheers:

No. He'll rip your heart out from 7000 to 9500. :D

:bitchslap: :bigun2:

[Sieg]

No. He'll rip your heart out from 7000 to 9500. :D

:bitchslap: :bigun2:
:popcorn2:

[FETorino]

No. He'll rip your heart out from 7000 to 9500. :D

:bitchslap: :bigun2:

Sure thing I'll match my 5500 to 7k average against that. 684hp/578tq Bring it.:guns:

Waiting on either of you. :popcorn2: :relax:

:cheers:

[Sieg]

Sure thing I'll match my 5500 to 7k average against that. Bring it.:guns:

Waiting on either of you. :popcorn2: :relax:

:cheers:

:popcorn2: :popcorn2:

[fleetus macmullitz]

For all our sakes, let the celebrating begin soon; by anyone... please. :(



http://southernpinstripes.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/arod-cigar.jpg


:D

[Payton King]

but I will be a little short on compression (10:1) and cubes (393) but I will jump into the fray. There always has to be a loser and that way neither of you will finish last. LOL

[badmatt]

but I will be a little short on compression (10:1) and cubes (393) but I will jump into the fray. There always has to be a loser and that way neither of you will finish last. LOL

Got me beat by 33 cubes!

[Ron in SoCal]

Got me beat by 33 cubes!

See now Matt, without a build thread we would never know that. Maybe it's time to post up some details. What do you think?

[FETorino]

Got me beat by 33 cubes!

BadMatt. Unleash those 360 cubes and let's see whatch got:underchair:

:cheers:

[Flash68]

Almost there Robster.... who will be the :king: ???

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_0005_zpse1f240c9.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_0005_zpse1f240c9.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_0008_zps6a1de383.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_0008_zps6a1de383.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_0004_zps3904719c.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_0004_zps3904719c.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_0010_zpsa44a9ae4.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/IMG_0010_zpsa44a9ae4.jpg.html)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/b51b10cb-3a6f-46a7-b6e8-0afae6a52aa1_zpsc6a1c1c1.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/b51b10cb-3a6f-46a7-b6e8-0afae6a52aa1_zpsc6a1c1c1.jpg.html)

[Nessumsar]

:brix:

What is the pressure-regulator-thing on top of the valley cover?

[Flash68]

:brix:

What is the pressure-regulator-thing on top of the valley cover?

adjustable vacuum regulator.... my Weiss pump can pull some extreme vacuum (more than I want/need) so I can turn it up for a track event and turn it down for street. I'll likely run a safe setting 99% of the time. Not worth the few extra ponies IMO.

http://www.petersonfluidsys.com/engine_breath.html

[Sieg]

Impressive! Might have to rename this smilie after ??? :waveflag:

[GregWeld]

It's a beautiful thing ya got going on there!!!



EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAA

[gerno]

That's just sick. Everything about that thing is complete ridiculous for a street car..... I'm jealous :hail:

[Sieg]

That's just sick. Everything about that thing is complete ridiculous for a street car..... I'm jealous :hail:

But not for an Outlaw Car :unibrow:

[Flash68]

Impressive! Might have to rename this smilie after ??? :waveflag:

I like where you're going with that. :D

It's a beautiful thing ya got going on there!!!



EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAA

It'll be beautiful once it's running and in a car! :headspin:

That's just sick. Everything about that thing is complete ridiculous for a street car..... I'm jealous :hail:

Steve, what's up bro... it is kinda ridiculous. Just the kind of ridiculous that suits me. :lostmarbles:

But not for an Outlaw Car :unibrow:

Outlaw... I like that too! You're on fire Sieg... :D :thumbsup:

[Ron in SoCal]

Impressive! Might have to rename this smilie after ??? :waveflag:

That's too much power for one man. :bur2:

[Flash68]

Is this thread really almost 10 months old? :smiley_smack:

Motor is on the dyno but waiting on some fittings/couplers to connect all that used Nascar junk I brought to Mike.... :lol:

He has a dyno session scheduled Saturday so he is doing his best to get mine dyno'd by Friday. Getting close....

[GregWeld]

All I heard was ---- yada yada blah blah yada blah blah....



Post again when you have some proof....




:action-smiley-027:

[Sieg]

That's too much power for one man. :bur2:No, decision of that caliber go before the Lat-g Social Committee. :D

Is this thread really almost 10 months old? :smiley_smack:

Seems to me like it's been years. :sieg:

All I heard was ---- yada yada blah blah yada blah blah....

Post again when you have some proof....

:action-smiley-027:
GW - Realistically he's not doing too bad for a newlywed. :rules:

[GregWeld]

Okay... We'll give him credit for that.

[Flash68]

No, decision of that caliber go before the Lat-g Social Committee. :D


Seems to me like it's been years. :sieg:


GW - Realistically he's not doing too bad for a newlywed. :rules:

YES! YES! IN THE FACE! :D

xbs8OTEauHc

[Flash68]

All I heard was ---- yada yada blah blah yada blah blah....



Post again when you have some proof....




:action-smiley-027:

well this sure ain't my garage.... and it sure isn't a grungy basement like where Rob's dyno happened... :lol:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/photo_zps2a77658f.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/photo_zps2a77658f.jpg.html)

[FETorino]

well this sure ain't my garage.... and it sure isn't a grungy basement like where Rob's dyno happened... :lol:



:y0!: Another striking difference is the day we bolted mine up to the dyno it actually ran.:smiley_smack:

:cheers:

[Flash68]

:y0!: Another striking difference is the day we bolted mine up to the dyno it actually ran.:smiley_smack:

:cheers:

I am waiting on an assortment of purple fittings from Doctor Renner. :computer:

[Sieg]

:y0!: Another striking difference is the day we bolted mine up to the dyno it actually ran.:smiley_smack:

:cheers:

THXiu4CSktM

Point! Blue Oval :D

[Flash68]

Point! Blue Oval :D

He can have a point. I will take the pointS. :action-smiley-027:

:animated_bye_bye_em

[Sieg]

He can have a point. I will take the pointS. :action-smiley-027:

:animated_bye_bye_em

If you don't throw him a bone occasionally he'll quit playing..........then you'll have no one to beat but yourself. :sieg:

[Flash68]

If you don't throw him a bone occasionally he'll quit playing..........then you'll have no one to beat but yourself. :sieg:

Well he can tap out and let BadMatt and his "little sister" SB2 in on the action. :stirthepot:

[Flash68]

Motor ready for dyno.... Mike is just cleaning out the used Nascar oil tank I brought to him and oh is he thrilled about that. :lol:

Should be tomorrow afternoon. GoPro is charged. Rob is getting his diaper ready.

:thumbsup:

[intocarss]

:gitrdun: :bigun2: :gitrdun: :Tomcat:

[Ron Sutton]

Are there any bets on this?

I'm prepared to bet big. 25¢ ... 50¢ ... maybe even $1. All kidding aside ... have fun Dave !!!!

:cheers:

[Flash68]

Are there any bets on this?

I'm prepared to bet big. 25¢ ... 50¢ ... maybe even $1. All kidding aside ... have fun Dave !!!!

:cheers:

Rob and I have dinner on this one. We are tied at 1 to 1 based on 2 previous bets (1 was who finished wheels first and the other was if I got my engine on the dyno within 3 weeks... that was about 6 weeks ago. :lol:)

[Flash68]

Ok Mike decided to get after it today and made 2 warm up pulls to make sure no leaks and it wasn't going to grenade. :hairpullout:
Here is what he gave me for details:

30 degrees timing
Brad Penn 10w30 (18 quarts total!)
108 psi oil pressure

both runs from 4900 to 6600

604 ft lbs @ 4900
608 ft lbs @ 6600
peak of 640+ somewhere in between

764 hp @ 6600 and still climbing

The real fun and tuning begins tomorrow. :bigun2:

[Ron in SoCal]

^ you better be there or you're kicked out of the club! :D

Congrats Brother! :cheers:

[gerno]

Nice, that's a great place to start....Hell I'd be plenty happy with those numbers as is for my ride.

oh, and it's about damn time :twak:

[intocarss]

more pulls means more power

[Sieg]

Feeling a little excited big boy? :Tomcat:

[intocarss]

Feeling a little excited big boy? :Tomcat:He won't get no sleep tonight..and we'd like to have live streaming!!!

[Track Junky]

Congrats Dave......your going to be a hell of a contender once she's done.:thumbsup:

Hopefully my diet plan will help me keep up. :unibrow:

[Flash68]

^ you better be there or you're kicked out of the club! :D

Congrats Brother! :cheers:

I have cleared my schedule! :rules:

Nice, that's a great place to start....Hell I'd be plenty happy with those numbers as is for my ride.

oh, and it's about damn time :twak:

Well after a lot of :headscratch: and :bang: and way too much of :G-Dub: it better make some more :bigun2: !!!

Feeling a little excited big boy? :Tomcat:

Oh you betcha. :D

He won't get no sleep tonight..and we'd like to have live streaming!!!

Congrats Dave......your going to be a hell of a contender once she's done.:thumbsup:

Hopefully my diet plan will help me keep up. :unibrow:

Don't give me too much credit. I won't have been on a track for nearly 2 years once this sucker is cranking in a car again.

I will still be following you out to steal your lines. :D

[Sieg]

I won't have been on a track for nearly 2 years once this sucker is cranking in a car again.
My how time flies when you're spending boatloads of money!

:G-Dub:

[Rick D]

Hey where's Rob?.:whistling:

[FETorino]

Hey where's Rob?.:whistling:

:relax: Letting DG have his day in the sun. He's been waiting a year to post something productive on this thread.

:cheers:

[Ron Sutton]

My calcs show 818hp @ 7000 rpm & 645# Torque at 5800rpm, but I had to guess at lot of stuff. Now lets go see what it really does. :)




Waiting patiently. :whistling: :stirthepot:

[Sieg]

:relax: Letting DG have his day in the sun. He's been waiting a year to post something productive on this thread.

:cheers:
Have you contacted the Roadster Shop about SB2 mounts for your chassis yet?

:underchair:

[Ron Sutton]

Have you contacted the Roadster Shop about SB2 mounts for your chassis yet?

:underchair:

Ouch! :waveflag:

[carbuff]

Have you contacted the Roadster Shop about SB2 mounts for your chassis yet?

:underchair:

:idea: :mock:

[Flash68]

Have you contacted the Roadster Shop about SB2 mounts for your chassis yet?

:underchair:

WIN! :lol:

[intocarss]

WELL?????????????????

[Flash68]

WELL?????????????????

Fun starts at 1pm. :popcorn2:

[nicks67ca]

I assume you have the video camera ready?

[intocarss]

Fun starts at 1pm. :popcorn2: OOOOOhh yeah ...Lunch first lololol ;)

[Flash68]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/showPlateImage.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/showPlateImage.jpg.html)

[GregWeld]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/showPlateImage.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/showPlateImage.jpg.html)



Oh yeah. I'd say that's an understatement!!

[Flash68]

For anyone smart enough to stay outta the quagmire that is my Camaro build thread.... here you are:

Rob, I like my ribs Kansas City style and burnt ends are nice too.

u2sdYxqu3eQ

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/photo_002_zps1bfd5f9f.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/photo_002_zps1bfd5f9f.jpg.html)

[FETorino]

For anyone smart enough to stay outta the quagmire that is my Camaro build thread.... here you are:

Rob, I like my ribs Kansas City style and burnt ends are nice too.

u2sdYxqu3eQ

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/photo_002_zps1bfd5f9f.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/photo_002_zps1bfd5f9f.jpg.html)

:waveflag: Don't shoot DG:waveflag: Don't shoot :waveflag:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/Igiveup_zps12c58fb7.jpg (http://s291.photobucket.com/user/superjinca/media/Igiveup_zps12c58fb7.jpg.html)

[WSSix]

Very nice! Congrats on making great power....both of you!

[intocarss]

What Did The Ford Make??

[Flash68]

Let's see some hp/tq goals from both?

The goal is 700ftlbs of torque, a big flat torque shelf. Peak hp is targeted at 6k rpm or just a little over and we think 700 will be seen for sure.

I am targeting 750 hp @ 7k rpm or less and 625 ft lbs.



Hmm looks like someone exceeded goals and someone came up short. :hitaxeonthehead:

My only decision with that is do I wanna beat ya by 50 hp or lay the hurt on ya and go for 100 plus. :D

Interesting foreshadowing there.

Placed my order for personalized licensed plates.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/showPlateImage.jpg

Appropriate. :mock:


Hey Rob. :hello:

:cheers:

[Vegas69]

Whole bottle of salt in the wound...:D

[FETorino]

Whole bottle of salt in the wound...:D

It makes DG happy. :thumbsup:

I was under the impression we were building motors to compete in the 3500 -7000 rpm range. But if 4800-7500 is apples to apples in your guys eyes looks like I got beat pretty good on hp.

I guess the rules changed over the past year while we were waiting for Flash's motor :lmao:

My dinosaur did make the best peak torque by a couple of lbs and avg torque is pretty much a wash depending on what rpm range you work off.

So I'm stoked on my feeble 700hp 642ft lb dinosaur.

The salt is fine with a little lime and a Pacifico or Victoria. Keep it coming if you like. :relax:

:cheers:

[Flash68]

Ok bitter beer face....



I was under the impression we were building motors to compete in the 3500 -7000 rpm range.

We did. But professional engine builders don't let customers run the dyno.... in their basement..... with the gimp tied up around the corner. :eek:

So you know I didn't get a 3500 and up dyno run. So the closest I got is 3900 to 7000. Post up your average torque in that range since the HP war is a lost cause. :action-smiley-027:

Avg torque 3900 to 7000 = 595.9

(range on the sheet is 3900 to 6500 so I had to manually calc it)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/null_zpsa9489ae2.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/null_zpsa9489ae2.jpg.html)

[GregWeld]

Does this mean we won't be having group Starbucks first thing in the mornings anymore??

[carbuff]

:catfight:

[Flash68]

Ya think this dude went to the Salt Lick or Rudy's?

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/FPQqMzg_zpsdc336e3b.gif (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/FPQqMzg_zpsdc336e3b.gif.html)

[FETorino]

Does this mean we won't be having group Starbucks first thing in the mornings anymore??



Of course we will. But we won't be going ANYWHERE that Brian recommends afterwards.:disgusted:


Ok bitter beer face....



We did. But professional engine builders don't let customers run the dyno.... in their basement..... with the gimp tied up around the corner. :eek:

So you know I didn't get a 3500 and up dyno run. So the closest I got is 3900 to 7000. Post up your average torque in that range since the HP war is a lost cause. :action-smiley-027:

Avg torque 3900 to 7000 = 595.9

(range on the sheet is 3900 to 6500 so I had to manually calc it)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/BMF%20Camaro/null_zpsa9489ae2.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/BMF%20Camaro/null_zpsa9489ae2.jpg.html)


[QUOTE=Flash68;501187]Ok bitter beer face....



We did. But professional engine builders don't let customers run the dyno.... in their basement..... with the gimp tied up around the corner. :eek:

So you know I didn't get a 3500 and up dyno run. So the closest I got is 3900 to 7000. Post up your average torque in that range since the HP war is a lost cause. :action-smiley-027:

Avg torque 3900 to 7000 = 595.9

(range on the sheet is 3900 to 6500 so I had to manually calc it)

Really DG? You think that answers the question. Your torque peak is at 5700 rpm. So if we say your optimum torque curve is within 2600 rpm 1300 above and below that peak your range is 4400 to 7000. Great for you we both ran dyno runs in that range cuz dyno owners and operators don't like beating on their dynos at low RPM.

For me my torque peak was at 4900 so using the same logic that is 3600-6200. I don't have any E85 Dyno #s from 3600 to 4500.

At 4500 my motor on E85 made 40 lbs more torque than my first gas dyno test run at 4500. In otherwords my 3600-4400 data is Sh:censored: if you feel good about it use those #s and you will probably win but considering on your best hp run you posted your motor was down 2lbs of torque from my peak I don't think that tells the true story.

That would make as much sense as us saying whoever had the best #s at say 4500 rpm is the winner. :headscratch: I like that one:D

FE , :Tomcat: ,SB2.2
TQ HP, :Tomcat: ,TQ HP
635.3 547.2, :Tomcat: ,558.1 478.2

:y0!: If that car ever runs then there is a way to settle this.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=42769

:cheers:

[Ron Sutton]

It makes DG happy. :thumbsup:

I was under the impression we were building motors to compete in the 3500 -7000 rpm range. But if 4800-7500 is apples to apples in your guys eyes looks like I got beat pretty good on hp.

I guess the rules changed over the past year while we were waiting for Flash's motor :lmao:

My dinosaur did make the best peak torque by a couple of lbs and avg torque is pretty much a wash depending on what rpm range you work off.

So I'm stoked on my feeble 700hp 642ft lb dinosaur.

The salt is fine with a little lime and a Pacifico or Victoria. Keep it coming if you like. :relax:



I'm with you on the Victoria beer. Keep the lime. :cheers:

.

[carbuff]

Ya think this dude went to the Salt Lick or Rudy's?

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/FPQqMzg_zpsdc336e3b.gif (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/FPQqMzg_zpsdc336e3b.gif.html)

Neither have ribs that look that good... :)

[GregWeld]

My actual dinner @ "THE SALT LICK"....






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/V8%20SuperCars/file-152.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/V8%20SuperCars/file-152.jpg.html)






And my guess is --- on track with these two --- we're going to see a whole lotta this....







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/V8%20SuperCars/file-131.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/V8%20SuperCars/file-131.jpg.html)

[Vegas69]

If 3500-7000 was the bet, settle it at 5250 rpm. Rob gets 5200 and Dave 5300.

Dave: 634.50 tq 640.3 hp
Rob: I can't stand to look back through this thread no mo.... Post your numbers Rob.

[Sieg]

If 3500-7000 was the bet, settle it at 5250 rpm. Rob gets 5200 and Dave 5300.

Dave: 634.50 tq 640.3 hp
Rob: I can't stand to look back through this thread no mo.... Post your numbers Rob.

5200 632.5 626.2

[Vegas69]

Based on the poll, I'd say we have a winner by a slim margin.


626.3 tq 620.4hp These were my numbers at 5200 with my pro touring camshaft. ha (With 16 less cubes than Rob I may add)

[FETorino]

Based on the poll, I'd say we have a winner by a slim margin.


626.3 tq 620.4hp These were my numbers at 5200 with my pro touring camshaft. ha (With 16 less cubes than Rob I may add)

Congradulations. You secured third place by a small margin. A few more ci and you could have been a contender.:lmao:


My actual dinner @ "THE SALT LICK"....






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/V8%20SuperCars/file-152.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/V8%20SuperCars/file-152.jpg.html)




That dam place is now on my bucket list. I should have already checked that box. :bur2:

I forgive you GW for casting the deciding vote for the wrong BBQ choice that hot miserable eve in Houston. I myself may have voted against Yelp, and my own internet research, based on local knowledge.

Who was to know a Texan knew so little about BBQ :headscratch:

:cheers:

[Vegas69]

With over 1.36 hp per cube, even a Ford guy can do that math. :action-smiley-027:

Just incase: 1.36x16ci

648 tq 641.7 hp Hell, that even puts me ahead of Dave.

[FETorino]

With over 1.36 hp per cube, even a Ford guy can do that math. :action-smiley-027:

Just incase: 1.36x16ci

648 tq 641.7 hp Hell, that even puts me ahead of Dave.

Help me out #s wizard.

Was your peak 1.36 hp per ci # at 5250?

What would you say 620.4 divided by 489 would be?

What would the significance of that # be?

What is 700.7 divided by 496?

You're a smart guy you'll figure it out.

Who should post the answers you or I? :mock:

:cheers:

[Flash68]

If 3500-7000 was the bet, settle it at 5250 rpm. Rob gets 5200 and Dave 5300.

Dave: 634.50 tq 640.3 hp
Rob: I can't stand to look back through this thread no mo.... Post your numbers Rob.

5200 632.5 626.2

:trophy-1302: :D

[Flash68]

Since polls are in vogue...

I know we aren't all from Texas, but which BBQ joint would you choose?

The Salt Lick BBQ
4.5 star rating
1586 reviews

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/l_zpsa0a53a32.jpg

or this one:

Black's Barbecue
4.0 star rating
394 reviews

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/flash68/l_zps4341343c.jpg (http://s236.photobucket.com/user/flash68/media/l_zps4341343c.jpg.html)

[GregWeld]

First you EAT at The Salt Lick.... then you GO to the other....