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Jody
07-09-2012, 10:45 AM
I called American Powertrain they are sending me a quote for the kit. I am not sure what to do here. I looked for the items needed for the complete installation in Summit. Summit does not show the components needed, crossmember, drive shaft yolk, etc. I called Summit they are not at all schooled up on the T56 or the components. They said they only have the T56 for new cars not my 69 Camaro. I said there are only two, one is close ratio and one is a wide ratio. He said I was wrong. Not sure if I want to buy from them. It maybe more of a pain to save the 10%( I have the 10% off coupon from a car show) than what the customer service they do not have at Summit is worth, which is very poor.

Has anyone bought the T-56 trans and found all the items needed for a complete install?

Sieg
07-09-2012, 11:00 AM
Hurst Drivelines was very good to deal with and it's their primary business unlike Summit. I bought the T56 Mag close ratio with the conversion kit for auto to manual. Had a couple issues but they were handled in a very professional and prompt manner.

McLeod adjustable throwout bearing
Hurst Blackjack shifter if not running in the forward (stock console position)

There are other T56 companies I engaged in transactions with.........save your time, energy, and money and deal with Hurst Drivelines.

ma73z
07-09-2012, 11:05 AM
I recently bought my magnum and few other parts through American and was very pleased. I've also used Hurst drivelines in the past with good luck. I'd go through one of them and you'll be covered.:cheers:

Musclerodz
07-09-2012, 03:32 PM
We just got a complete kit from American Powertrain. No issues other than they use a Wilwood clutch master and I used a DSE bracket which uses a GM master, no biggie.

You are correct, there are only 2 trannys, the late models use a Magnum XL which is different. You will not find tranny pricing to vary more than a couple bucks no matter where you buy it, and I have priced kits from 4-6 suppliers and complete kits all have run within $200 or less difference. Get a complete kit and take any guesswork out of ordering the wrong part.

claust
08-28-2012, 01:10 PM
Learned a lot folks...appreciate much....need a little clarification....number one...will this transmisson fit without having to massage my tunnel....if so, will the shifter fit into stock 4 spped location...will this unit bolt up to my std. clutch and bellhousing setup that came with the four speed...

thanks for any insight

camcojb
08-28-2012, 02:14 PM
Learned a lot folks...appreciate much....need a little clarification....number one...will this transmisson fit without having to massage my tunnel....if so, will the shifter fit into stock 4 spped location...will this unit bolt up to my std. clutch and bellhousing setup that came with the four speed...

thanks for any insight
A lot of that depends on what car you have. ;) Bellhousing is different for sure.

Sieg
08-28-2012, 07:06 PM
From my research and observation the floor/tunnel stamp consistency in these cars has to vary a fair amount in finished height from plant to plant.........or there's a lot of liars on the internet. :D

suark
08-30-2012, 06:15 PM
I just got my t56 magnum from Summit, I've switched plans and am now going with a big block, I mocked it all up in the car and with the stock oil pan laying right on the crossmember, the highest I can get the trans in the drive tunnel is with a 5' down angle before it hits. I have stock height bushings with a DSE subframe, the trans is hitting the tunnel right in front of seam where the firewall meets the floor pan. I guess I'll start cutting til I get to 3' down angle. I wasn't too impressed with American Powertrain, I called for a quote on the trans and the bellhousing and all the salesman did was try to talk me into buying a bunch of other parts I already have. He said he'd call me right back with a price but never did. You'd think in this economy they'd sell me what I want when I'm standing there with money in hand? I found the best deal @ Autoplicity.com, called Summit and they beat it. I had it in 3 days, done.

snappytravis
08-30-2012, 07:40 PM
I just got my t56 magnum from Summit, I've switched plans and am now going with a big block, I mocked it all up in the car and with the stock oil pan laying right on the crossmember, the highest I can get the trans in the drive tunnel is with a 5' down angle before it hits. I have stock height bushings with a DSE subframe, the trans is hitting the tunnel right in front of seam where the firewall meets the floor pan. I guess I'll start cutting til I get to 3' down angle. I wasn't too impressed with American Powertrain, I called for a quote on the trans and the bellhousing and all the salesman did was try to talk me into buying a bunch of other parts I already have. He said he'd call me right back with a price but never did. You'd think in this economy they'd sell me what I want when I'm standing there with money in hand? I found the best deal @ Autoplicity.com, called Summit and they beat it. I had it in 3 days, done.

I just cut my tunnel all the way from the firewall to the back edge of the shifter plate, then about 1 down on the sides, If a guy cut it real nice you may be able to put a 2" piece of strap around the edges to raise it back up, I think it's just easier to cut it all the way out and start over, good luck
:willy:

Sieg
08-30-2012, 08:58 PM
I built this and the drivetrain sits at 2.5* down.
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Camaro/i-wPgX2h5/0/XL/IMAG1203-XL.jpg
I'm using Moroso solid motor mounts and Energy urethane rear. Standard height subframe mounts.

snappytravis
08-30-2012, 09:02 PM
I built this and the drivetrain sits at 2.5* down.
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Cars/69-Camaro/i-wPgX2h5/0/XL/IMAG1203-XL.jpg
I'm using Moroso solid motor mounts and Energy urethane rear. Standard height subframe mounts.

any vibration with the solid mounts? what pan, I have autokraft pan with energy mounts and it's super close to rack,

Sieg
08-30-2012, 09:18 PM
any vibration with the solid mounts? what pan, I have autokraft pan with energy mounts and it's super close to rack,

Milodon pan, my motor is well balanced and I never felt vibration was an issue, some people are more sensitive to vibration than others, especially on motorcycles. My driveline angles were a vibration issue though and 4* shims helped that. No regrets with the solid mounts, I like the positive clutch/throttle response. No rack, Lee's close ratio box. I have about an 1/8" clearance on the tunnel/shifter right rear bolt no contact issues.

blazer1970
11-25-2012, 05:34 PM
I bought my T56 Magnum kit from American Powertrain, the kit came complete.
I went with the hydraulic throw out bearing also.