Healthy Living 101

[glassman]

Tony, what's a "co-survivior"? is it you had cancer or you spouse? or?

[Tony_SS]

Tony, what's a "co-survivior"? is it you had cancer or you spouse? or?

My wife had it. She finished up her chemo this summer and has a clean bill of health along with her hair growning back. :woot:

Co-survivors are immediate family members.

[FETorino]

Such a great point. I have a lifelong friend who has nothing to give but his time. And he spreads it around to everyone that he knows. Almost too much. The lesson he taught me was "when you honor your friends, you honor yourself."

Taking a moment to improve the lives of others does lead to a sort of fulfillment that cannot be achieved any other way.

You guys are so Zen and enlightened :hail:

Ron is a good egg and took some time for me one day to practice what he's preaching, thanks Ron.

"Success is making your life what YOU want it to be"

"Remember, success is not a set of standards from our culture but rather a collection of personal values clearly defined and ultimately achieved."

-Jim Rohn


One of the many things I like in The Compound Effect is the subject of self improvement. The best way to improve yourself is to be a positive influence on other people and help them achieve success. Those relationships will naturally blossom and you will end up benefiting from them as well. Whether it's your spouse, friends, employees, coworker, or even a perfect stranger. Be the bigger man.


Oh and Todd you are dead on with these statements. :thumbsup:


Long story I don't want to out you guys to sleep with but I have been sitting on my A$$ since the first of this year. I suddenly realized I was about to become a sloth. My buddy I used to ride with was racing in the Over the Hump Mountian bike series so I showed up cold turkey after not riding for a year (I've rode around the block in the last year but not an actual mtn bike ride)

Anyway me, my Niner single speed finished the race in 95 deg heat but I'm not proud of my ranking. I'm back next week to do it again. I got a training ride in last night.

[Vegas69]

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[toy71camaro]

still chugging along here. Took a week break while on Vacation at Hot August Nights in Reno, and only gained 2lbs (tried to eat as healthy as i could with no fridge, stove or microwave) lol. So i think i did pretty good.

back on track today tho.

[hifi875]

ran 14.1 on saturday as part of my long slow run (9:45 pace) training for my first marathon and then lifted/ran 3mi recovery run yesterday. then for today i did my 200 pushups/200 setups, planks(normal and side)and i'm good to go.

Not trying to lose weight, the exercise itself takes care of that.

[Vegas69]

Dude, you are a beast.

[hifi875]

Dude, you are a beast.

far from it, but training for a marathon is tough, mentally more than anything. To think i had to run a extra 12 miles on top of what i ran on saturday is difficult. I like lifting but its tough when your running 30+ miles a week and after not lifting for a couple of days i feel flabby so to speak. Its a challenge, but its a good diversion from cars. thats for sure.

[GregWeld]

far from it, but training for a marathon is tough, mentally more than anything. To think i had to run a extra 12 miles on top of what i ran on saturday is difficult. I like lifting but its tough when your running 30+ miles a week and after not lifting for a couple of days i feel flabby so to speak. Its a challenge, but its a good diversion from cars. thats for sure.



I smell an anorexic in the room...:lol:

[CRCRFT78]

I just caught up the last 10 pages of reading, very inspirational.

[legend]

far from it, but training for a marathon is tough, mentally more than anything. To think i had to run a extra 12 miles on top of what i ran on saturday is difficult. I like lifting but its tough when your running 30+ miles a week and after not lifting for a couple of days i feel flabby so to speak. Its a challenge, but its a good diversion from cars. thats for sure.

Man I can lift up a house, but I'm not tough enough for a marathon, huge respect.

The only cardio I can stomach is a 10 min thrash on the cross trainer, a 20 min fast jog or some mountain biking, Distance running takes way more resolve than I have

[Vegas69]

Weighed in at 177.0 this morning. Two more lbs to my new goal weight. Down from 195 earlier this year.

After my run today, I checked my heart rate drop. It was 168 immediately after and 152 1 minute later. I just read if your heart rate drops less than 12 you need to work on your cardio fitness. I'd have to pull the article but your heart rate must be elevated to between a value and 80% of max before you can check it.

"Learn to work harder on yourself than you do on your job"

"Most of what you have today you have attracted by becoming the person you are today"

-Jim Rohn

What Jim means by that quote is your health, diet, relationships, fincances, and knowledge base. When those areas of your life improve, it will spill over into your career in a very positive way.

[legend]

Yeah the best thing about reasonable distance runs is that it helps you recover much quicker when you do more intense bursts of activities. Like boxers running the 5 miles in the morning

health/wealth/love all need work:thumbsup:

[Tony_SS]

This is one of my new favorite blogs. It touches on wide range of topics.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/

[Tony_SS]

Yeah the best thing about reasonable distance runs is that it helps you recover much quicker when you do more intense bursts of activities. Like boxers running the 5 miles in the morning

This is what Crossfit is all about. I have not looked into very much, but it's training like a warrior instead of distance running and lifting 'reps'. The guy and his wife up the street do it and they're in great shape.

[skatinjay27]

yes "crossfit" its 2012s "birkram yoga" lol
crossfits centers have been popping up like weeds around here this year.
just like birkram places in 2010 .

but the nutritionist my wife talks with (her client) does it and swears by it, he's been training for many year but says he feels hes in the best shape ever from doing crossfit. he said the actual work out is only around 20 min. but its pretty $$$

[hifi875]

this is whats great about exercising. There are tons of different approaches that will ultimately land us all in the same sort of state. Healthy Living!! It is not as much what you do, but that you do it. the minute you start exercising your body responds. i like to run and lift, others like to bike or swim or crossfit etc. etc. etc. Its all good. Plus its good to mix up stuff too, to confuse your muscles and work them in different ways. i just don't have the time right now, but after my marathon, you bet I will be mixing it up alot more. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: to everyone who is on this bandwagon. Just don't fall off!!

[Tony_SS]

yes "crossfit" its 2012s "birkram yoga" lol
crossfits centers have been popping up like weeds around here this year.
just like birkram places in 2010 .

but the nutritionist my wife talks with (her client) does it and swears by it, he's been training for many year but says he feels hes in the best shape ever from doing crossfit. he said the actual work out is only around 20 min. but its pretty $$$

Yep seems to be the latest trend, but from little I read about it sound rooted in good methods...I'm all for the evolution of training.... Anyone remember the aerobic/butt floss fad? lmao

[GregWeld]

yes "crossfit" its 2012s "birkram yoga" lol
crossfits centers have been popping up like weeds around here this year.
just like birkram places in 2010 .

but the nutritionist my wife talks with (her client) does it and swears by it, he's been training for many year but says he feels hes in the best shape ever from doing crossfit. he said the actual work out is only around 20 min. but its pretty $$$



My trainer and I talked about Crossfit today! He has a client that says it's the best thing that ever happened to her practice (some kind of sports medicine Doc)... wishes they'd open more of them.

[Vegas69]

This is probably the 10th time I've said it but, do you want to make a lifestyle change for a few weeks or life? Crossfit looks about like basic training or an mma fighter getting ready for his next rumble.

If you don't enjoy it, you won't continue to do it. I will admit the crossfit deal intrigues me, I just know it will be short lived. I'd rather find my natural balance in diet and excercise knowing that I can cement it into my life instead of quitting because it's to hard or time consuming for daily life.

It's not what you do sometimes that matters, it's what you do all the time.

[Neil B]

Great thread guys. I began my road back to fitness about 4 years ago. After many years of eating out and working in front of a computer, I was 39 years old and 210 lbs. My initial goal was to be under 200 lbs. by my 40th birthday. Since then, I've dealt with cancer including multiple surgeries, chemo and radiation. I can tell you first hand that exercising and eating right will definitely help get you through those challenges. I'm now 43 years old and weigh 170 lbs. (my college weight) at approx. 12% body fat and I've never felt better. My current lifestyle includes:

1) 30-minute high intensity workouts with a personal trainer (2-3 per week)
2) 3.5 mile runs twice per week
3) Eating 6-7 times per day - small meals
4) High protein, low carb diet plan (but I cycle my carbs higher 2 days per week)
5) I try to completely restrict intake of refined sugars and wheat products (bread and pasta) and get most of my carbs from veggies, oatmeal, sweet potatoes, and lower-sugar fruits. However, I allow myself to eat whatever I want on Saturdays after lunch time.
6) I try to set intermediate goals every 6-8 weeks to keep motivation levels up. Goals have ranged from training for a run, to reducing body fat %, to losing x pounds for a specific event.

Good luck to all of you in achieving your health goals. This car thing can only be enjoyed if you are healthy enough to partake.

--Neil

[Vegas69]

Neil, you have it figured out. :thumbsup: Glad to hear you are feeling fantastic!

[legend]

Crossfit is dubious in my experience. There's some awful form demonstrated on many of the lifts and very little training of how to do things properly, essentially a load of injuries waiting to happen.

Many people are in great shape from doing it, but I bet they were already in great shape.

It's fashionable for some mad reason, but then if that kind of training appeals then go for it.

I think you'd get more from a decent proven weightlifting routine with a mixture of mountainbiking and "fun" sports.

I mentioned him already in this thread, but Dan John, has tried it all and is very entertaining http://danjohn.net/

[GregWeld]

Crossfit is dubious in my experience. There's some awful form demonstrated on many of the lifts and very little training of how to do things properly, essentially a load of injuries waiting to happen.



That was my point in post #269....


The sports med doc said it was the best thing that ever happened to her business!

[CRCRFT78]

Picked up a copy of the Compound Effect. Read the 1st two chapters and I'm already motivated for the change ahead.

[Vegas69]

Picked up a copy of the Compound Effect. Read the 1st two chapters and I'm already motivated for the change ahead.

:thumbsup: That's great Jose.

It changed my life and I'm not afraid to say it. Make sure you actually write down the answers at the end of the chapters and underline the parts that really hit home. I've read it 4 times and read my underlined sentences countless times. I'm rereading Jim Rohns book "7 Stratagies for Wealth & Happiness" right now as well. It's a great next book for you. I've become a big fan of his as well.

[syborg tt]

That was my point in post #269....


The sports med doc said it was the best thing that ever happened to her business!

every few years the Fitness people come up with some great idea's

Reebok Step - was a Podiatrists Dream not to mention and Orthopedics dream.

Okay if your truly looking for a great book all about strength and conditioning the real way and trust me this will be something you can actully do for a life time. Jack LaLanne was about trianing with his body weight.

Convict Conditioning (http://www.dragondoor.com/shop-by-department/digital-books/b41/?gclid=CJyhxuPe7bECFdNxMgod6ywAVw)

[gearheads78]

So I just stumbled across this and read through it all. I'm 39 and have been watching my weight slowly go up and my pants size go up. I even started buying expandable waist pants and telling myself I was still a 36" even though they were starting to feel tight all the way stretched out. I had been floating around 215 at 5' 11" and even 218 one time I weighed.

I am away from home work 13+ hours a day between work and commute ,and have infant twins and a 6yo. Gym time is just not going to happen. I have been telling myself I need to do something for the last year but never found the inspiration.

July 12' it was announced we were having a biggest looser contest at work with a weigh in July 15. $50.00 buy in winner take all the last day of August. I said what the heck. July 14 I went to the steak house and had my last meal of my old life. 12 of us signed up and we were off.

I did not smoke or drink but I used to eat 3 large meals a day with dessert at least twice a day mixed in with 2-4 Dr Peppers. I walked a lot work probably 3-4miles a day walking back and forth in the shop but no other physical activity.

I will admit my week was hell. My average day would be french toast sticks and a breakfast sandwich, Bacon Cheese Burger for lunch and a giant plate of spaggetti for dinner. I now have yogart with banana and granola, grilled chicken garden salad and a reasonable dinner. Changed DP to Unsweet tea and apple pie to an apple with peanut butter.

I also started running every other night after the babies are in bed. I live on an 1/8 mile street. The first night it almost killed me to jog to the end and mix running and walking 4 laps to the end and back. After only a month I am running the first 3 trips there and back and have upped the laps to 6.

As of this morning I was at 193.4 lbs 21 lbs lighter than I was 4 weeks ago.

I started this all hoping to win the money and maybe loose a few lbs. Now I don't even care. That $50.00 I spent may be the most important money I have spent in my life. I feel better, my stretched 36" pants have to be tightened 3 belt loops to stay up and strangest thing is I already don't really miss all my favorite old foods.

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Absolutely AWESOME!

[Flash68]

^^ Yeah that's great to read! :thumbsup:

[Tony_SS]

Some great success stories here. :thumbsup:

You know how we've always been told to get our 'fiber'? I've been reading that eating grain based fiber is like digesting a cheese grater. Instead we should get our fiber from fruit and vegetables.

Another overlooked essential is yogurt (you have to watch the sugar though, and make sure there are no artificial sweeteners). Clean yogurt is live food containing good bacteria the heals our aids digestion so I try to include that in my diet as well.

And my next quest is for raw milk. Since pasteurized milk is a primary source for my spring and fall allergies, I'm going raw to get the live pro biotics and enzymes and to avoid the histamines. It's too bad it's near impossible to come by, as it is illegal to buy from a retailer, but I can buy direct from a farm.

[gearheads78]

One other thing I have noticed that I forgot to say. Over the last several years I have developed some sort of acid reflux or indigestion. About an hour after I eat I would start to feel it and most of the time start coughing. I kept Tums in my desk and by the nightstand and would have to pop a few to settle it down. Its was getting to the point that I thought I needed to see a doc about it but just kept putting it off.

I just dawned on me that when I started this my Tums bottle at work was almost empty with 4-5 left. (2 days worth at best) A month later there is still 3 in the bottle. My change in diet has basicly completly cured it. :thumbsup:

[Tony_SS]

One other thing I have noticed that I noticed. Over the last several years I have developed some sort of acid reflux or indigestion. About an hour after I eat I would start to feel it and most of the time start coughing. I kept Tums in my desk and by the nightstand and would have to pop a few to settle it down. Its was getting to the point that I thought I needed to see a doc about it but just kept putting it off.

I just dawned on me that when I started this my Tums bottle at work was almost empty with 4-5 left. (2 days worth at best) A month later there is still 3 in the bottle. My change in diet has basicly completly cured it. :thumbsup:

I live by this stuff... it cured my reflux, helps my digestion and even cured the dry patch of skin on my elbow I've had for the last 10 years... no kidding! This stuff is amazing: Braggs Apple cider vinegar... 2 cap fulls, water and cranberry juice, once or twice a day. Make sure it's Braggs... its organic, unfiltered and unpasteurized.. good stuff.

[Vegas69]

That's the problem with society, they want an easy way out.

They are overweight, go on some fad diet or take a pill.

They have no energy, take supplements or an energy drink

Can't get a boner, take Viagra.

Depressed all the time, take some antidepressants.

The real truth is we were meant to excercise daily and eat natural things from this earth. It won't fix you tomorrow but if you give it time, the weight will fall off, your energy level will sky rocket, the mirror will be kinder, and your attitude will improve, the way it was supposed to happen, NATURALLY.

As I've said before, "Your life won't change, unless you change".

[hifi875]

That's the problem with society, they want an easy way out.

They are overweight, go on some fad diet or take a pill.

They have no energy, take supplements or an energy drink

Can't get a boner, take Viagra.

Depressed all the time, take some antidepressants.

The real truth is we were meant to excercise daily and eat natural things from this earth. It won't fix you tomorrow but if you give it time, the weight will fall off, your energy level will sky rocket, the mirror will be kinder, and your attitude will improve, the way it was supposed to happen, NATURALLY.

As I've said before, "Your life won't change, unless you change".

EXACTLY!!!!!! There is no shortcut that is sustainable. None.

[Tony_SS]

That's the problem with society, they want an easy way out.

They are overweight, go on some fad diet or take a pill.

They have no energy, take supplements or an energy drink

Can't get a boner, take Viagra.

Depressed all the time, take some antidepressants.

The real truth is we were meant to excercise daily and eat natural things from this earth. It won't fix you tomorrow but if you give it time, the weight will fall off, your energy level will sky rocket, the mirror will be kinder, and your attitude will improve, the way it was supposed to happen, NATURALLY.

As I've said before, "Your life won't change, unless you change".

Agreed. Our system and culture treats symptoms, instead of addressing problems. It's more profitable to treat symptoms. The food and health industrial complex does not want you eating clean, grow your own food and use natural remedies to heal yourself. These are things our grandparents done, and in a few generations it's all been lost.

[Vegas69]

EXACTLY!!!!!! There is no shortcut that is sustainable. None.

I like that and couldn't agree more!


Let me say, six months ago I was one of those guys. I couldn't figure out why I had no energy or drive. I excercised regularly and got plenty of sleep. I never felt rested.

My bad habits from my Twenties compounded over time and I was drinking more than ever and less than a stellar diet. Now at 35 years old, I had basically run myself into a hole I couldn't sleep or excercsise my way out of no matter what.

I was at Barnes & Noble with Kelli and The Compound Effect stood out like a sore thumb. Not much later I picked up "Feel Young Forever" by Jack Lalanne. The Compound Effect changed my philosiphy on life and Feel Young Forever changed my diet for life. By just changing the way I think and the way I eat, it's completey put me on the other side of the pendelum.

I'm waking up rested at 5:30-6:15 NATURALLY. The power meeter and attitude meeter is a hell of a lot closer to the right than it's ever been. I've lived the wrong way, I'm going to live the rest of my life the right way.:thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Can't get a boner, take Viagra.



Did you really have to talk about Weld on this thread? :rofl:



I'm waking up rested at 5:30-6:15 NATURALLY. The power meeter and attitude meeter is a hell of a lot closer to the right than it's ever been. I've lived the wrong way, I'm going to live the rest of my life the right way.:thumbsup:

You don't have a Tony Robbins type book deal in the works do you? :D

[GregWeld]

Did you really have to talk about Weld on this thread? :rofl:



Just wait 'til you get my age! :rofl:


BTW -- that "whole thing" depends on if you're looking at some 20 something year old -- or chicks my age. One of those choices is just like Viagra!

[Vegas69]

Did you really have to talk about Weld on this thread? :rofl:



You don't have a Tony Robbins type book deal in the works do you? :D

Let's keep the bull **** to the waste land you call a build thread. :lol:

[skatinjay27]

One other thing I have noticed that I forgot to say. Over the last several years I have developed some sort of acid reflux or indigestion. About an hour after I eat I would start to feel it and most of the time start coughing. I kept Tums in my desk and by the nightstand and would have to pop a few to settle it down. Its was getting to the point that I thought I needed to see a doc about it but just kept putting it off.

I just dawned on me that when I started this my Tums bottle at work was almost empty with 4-5 left. (2 days worth at best) A month later there is still 3 in the bottle. My change in diet has basicly completly cured it. :thumbsup:

same for me man!
i had really really bad acid reflux but once i started exercising and eating clean its gone! even when i cheat and eat the stuff that would cause it.

btw- just got back from the park for a 30min run, man its hot! but i love to sweat hard :)

[214Chevy]

I don't know how I missed this thread, but I'm glad I found it. Being healthy and living good is so important to me. Especially since I work in the healthcare field and I'm a firefighter/paramedic. A little about me and my take on not only having, but maintaining a healthy lifestyle. I don't eat red meat and haven't since 1994...I only eat fish, chicken and turkey. No fried foods, except very rare/special occasions like a big get together and there hot wings, etc. And even mostly then I only have 2-3. I don't eat fast food. Maybe a Subway sandwich at times if I'm out and cannot get anything else, but I usually fix my lunch daily and take it with me even if I'm off of work. I normally cook my food for the whole week, put it in sandwich bags and grab it to go as I need it for the day. I also drink a gallon of water a day. Sometimes a little less if I don't finish the whole gallon. Now, as far as the workout part, I turn 40 in February. Therefore, ever since about the age of 34 I've stopped trying to lift the whole gym and started doing light weights and more reps. I do an hour of cardio daily. When I was in my early to 20's, I'd run 5-6 miles a day straight, nonstop. Now, almost 40 I can't do that. My hour of cardio consists of walking on an incline and a light pace jog in intervals on my treadmill. Now, don't get me wrong there are days I say screw it and I'm tired, but I do it daily for the most part. One of the best investments I ever made was buy a professional grade treadmill for the house and that way I can do it. My friends thought I was crazy when I bought a $3500 treadmill. I get up about 4:30am no later than 5 am and do my cardio. I only lift weights about 3 times a week. Getting older....cardio is way more important to me than lifting every weight in the gym. LOL!! Plus, I have all the weights I need at the fire station. With all that being said, due to my healthy lifestyle, many of my high school classmates are now very overwight. They tell me I still look the same as I was 175-180 lbs with a 32" waist when I graduated high school in 1991 and I am now 210 lbs with a 36" waist. My blood pressure runs about 110/44 with a resting pulse of about 45-50 beats per minute. Trust me I check it daily either at the hospital or at the firestation. So, I'd say after almost 22 years after graduating high school, I'm doing something right by only gaining a little over 30 lbs and adding only 4" to my waistline. People who don't know me are amazed when I tell them I almost 40 years old. Lastly, I bet alot of you guys are like, "yeah right" to my gallon of water a day and my hour of cardio, but I promise to GOD and can assure I never get sick and it works. The pic I attached is my gallon I'm drinking today. If you notice the computer screen in the back is me typing this post to this thread. LOL!! It's no coincidence that I just happened to have a gallon of water at work.

[Flash68]

Just wait 'til you get my age! :rofl:


BTW -- that "whole thing" depends on if you're looking at some 20 something year old -- or chicks my age. One of those choices is just like Viagra!

:lol: :thumbsup:

Let's keep the bull **** to the waste land you call a build thread. :lol:

Hey, where is the old mouthy boozed up Todd? He was a lot more fun... :rofl:

[skatinjay27]

yeah the new todd is super uptight about his threads!!!

"no questions regarding the sale of my car":P

lets not forget all the useless BS is what made your build thread one of the top dog threads of lat-g ! hahaha

[Vegas69]

"We are what we repeatedly do." -Aristotle

"A daily routine built on GOOD HABITS is the difference that separates the most successful amongst us from everyone else" -Darren Hardy


Fess up guys, who's slid back into those old bad habits and why?

Did you bit off more than you can chew and not set up a work out program that is fun and sustainable?

Did you go back to an envrioment that entices you to engage in that bad habit?

Did you give up before your new good habit had a change to actually become a habit?

[Track Junky]

I'm still eating right and dropped down to 174. Haven't been to the gym for the past 2 weeks because I have been working my ass off physically. Shoveling and wheel barreling multiple yards of decomposed granite and dirt tends to tighten the mid section pretty well. Picking. shoveling, and stacking boulders isn't a bad work out for arms, shoulders, and back muscles either, :unibrow:

[hifi875]

Got in 35+ miles last week with a couple of days of weightlifting. One of my runs was a 15.1 miler in 2:22 not bad for a long slow run. This weeks mileage will be between 33-37 depending on if i step back and only run 13 or step up andrun 17. Already got 1 weightlifting session in and 1 bodyweight workout in this week too. Don't plan on getting off the wagon anytime soon!!

[skatinjay27]

yup staying on the wagon here also. hell i got up an hour early this morning so i could go and run at the park then when i opened the garage it was pouring rain!:_paranoid but i was already all set to go so i grabbed a hooded sweater and went anyway. it was actually really fun and a nice change from the usual scorching sun.

still been steady weight lifting 4 days a week and I've started making my meals in advance for the week and just putting them in Tupperware to bring to work (makes it much easier to stay on track!)

[Vegas69]

Good to hear guys. I woke up at 4:50 AM today. :willy: I headed out at 6 for a run and got pissed on a little. It was great. :D

[nicks67ca]

"We are what we repeatedly do." -Aristotle

"A daily routine built on GOOD HABITS is the difference that separates the most successful amongst us from everyone else" -Darren Hardy


Fess up guys, who's slid back into those old bad habits and why?

Did you bit off more than you can chew and not set up a work out program that is fun and sustainable?

Did you go back to an envrioment that entices you to engage in that bad habit?

Did you give up before your new good habit had a change to actually become a habit?

I broke down and bough a pizza......it was delicious and I cried while I ate it since i knew it was bad.....but seriously i changed 2 things portion size, and started packing a sensible lunch and dropped 12lbs in 3 weeks. trying to get to sub 200 and have 12 more to go. Glad to see others in the fight!

[Vegas69]

Pizza isn't bad in moderation. Kelli makes them with a whole wheat crust and light cheese and I've grown to like them better.

[nicks67ca]

your right and I had a salad before to help fill me up. It was take out but maybe its time for a pizza stone....:)

[Chad-1stGen]

I just spent the past hour watching one of the most interesting and thought provoking documentaries on health living. It's a BBC production that was uploaded to youtube in its entirety.

Pfna7nV7WaM

Its all about the impact of various forms of fasting or even periodic calorie restriction can have on health, risk of cardiovascular disease, cancer, Alzheimers, etc.

I'd love to hear what others think so watch it :)

PS. Today is day 62 since I started using myfitnesspal and about 90 days since I got a pedometer. My goal was to increase my activity level on a general day to day basis without having to fit in a formal workout and to eat a bit healthier diet without swinging the pendulum so far it would be unsustainable. The first month with the Pedometer I didn't see any change in weight other than I stopped gaining weight. The past 62 days I've only failed to get some form of cardio exercise (most of it simply fast paced walking that gets my heart rate up) about 5 days.

In that time I've lost about 19 lbs and my waistline is much smaller by how lose my clothes are fitting. Belly fat = bad stuff so I'm pretty stoked.

[Vegas69]

Good to hear Chad, I'll have to watch the video when I get a chance. I hit my goal weight of 175 lbs on Wednesday myself. That's 20 lbs down this year. I'm in the best all around shape of my life. :thumbsup: All you wanna be race car drivers better watch out. I've got less static weight and more ego than ever. ha ha

[Tony_SS]

I read a few dozen pages of this book last night and I'm sold... ordering it today.

Essentially the establishment is dead wrong on butter, animal fats cholesterol, etc. They are blamed for heart disease when heavily processes vegetable oils are to blame.

And then is goes into studying diet and health from different cultures. Dr. Price found out that people who's diet consisted of grass fed animal meats, butter and diary were the models of perfect health and disease such as cancer, diabetes and heart disease were non existent. Comparing that to our western diet of processed grains, flours and sugar and our health issues, it points out the difference.

Some of it read like a scientific ingredients guide to health too.

The Amazon reviews are a good insight about the book and if you have a Kindle you can download preview.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0967089735/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[gearheads78]

So did any of you know you could die while trying to loose weight? I almost did the other night. If for some reason I had been recording myself I could have made a bunch of money with about 2million hits on youtube by now.

A little back story my shop is pretty infested with brown spiders. I'm not sure what kind of spiders they are. I call them "path" spiders because every where I walk the damn things have made another web in my path. Other than being annoyed they do not really bother me and I am not scared of spiders.

So I was cruising along at a good clip on the elliptical. I happened to notice one of my spider friends about 10 feet away. I don't know what spiders talk about to each other but I know for sure there is some sort of communication.(more on this later)

So this spider catches my attention and I start watching him making a web from the 69' Camaro to the roof. Up and down up and down. I am watching this obvious diversion going on when the spider gives the signal to his partner. You see while I was watching the first spider was making his web another spider that was in on the conspiracy must have been told I had killed a few hundred of his ancestors over the years and they had put a hit out on me. The second spider dropped from the ceiling above me and stopped 3 inches in front of my nose. Now as I said before I am not scared of spiders but I don't think I have ever been sneak attacked by one. Maybe I am a little more afraid than I though I was because my reaction was to step and move back. This was not the best split second decision I have ever made since I was basically running in place at the time.

I don't know exactly what happened next (that would have helped to have video) but trying to stay in an upright position was a challenge to say the least. Their plan is that I would fall to my demise spitting my head open on the concrete floor. I did foil their plan because there was a 78 Silverado only a foot or so away. I can attest the mirror on the door will hold all of my falling weight.

I have not completely planned my retaliation but when I do I'm going in fast and hard. :lol:

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That is f'n hysterical!

[Vegas69]

Crack kills...:lol:

[syborg tt]

Just for you - click if you dare

[Tony_SS]

I HATE spiders.

That is one way to get me to run for miles... chase me with bucket of spiders.

[srh3trinity]

I have got some catching up to do on this thread. I am 32 and recently finished Family Medicine residency and currently practice hospital medicine. I am glad to see some dialogue about making good decisions. Most of what I deal with in patients is self-inflicted on some level. Sure, there is a genetic component to many issues, but on some level you can beat genetics or at least delay their effects with good choices. As for me, I try to eat balanced as much as possible, drink plenty of water, eat plenty of fiber (filling and low calories) and practice intuitive eating. With intuitive eating I choose where and how I spend my calories. If I really want some ice cream at the end of the day, I will cut out calories on the front end throughout the day and allow for a small portion of ice cream. With intuitive eating, you have to really ask yourself do I want it bad enough to make some sacrifices and justify it to yourself, but if you find that you really do want something, it is probably better to allow for a small portion and satisfy the craving. If the craving passes, then you probably didn't really want it anyway. If it hangs around, you may splurge and go overboard in a moment of weakness.

I am working on trying to figure out a good exercise regimen with my bizarre schedule. That is the next step for me.

[Vegas69]

I completely agree Stephen, just because your parents are overweight or have a bad attitude that doesn't mean you have to suffer the same fate. It's really just a lame excuse and the easy way out. Kelli is a prime example. Her Mom was overweight her whole life and had gastric bypass surgery a few years ago. Sure there are some genetics that make it difficult, but it's her habits and lifestyle that led her down that road. No excercise and poor nutrition will lead most down the same road. Kelli has a different philosophy on life.

I tipped the scales at 174 this morning and I've decided to call it a day. I'm going to work on maintaining my weight by adding calories back into my diet responsibly. The 175 mark seems to be my sweet spot. I was 175 at 22 years old. :D

[srh3trinity]

I think this thread will add some accountability into the equation too. I know somebody mentioned the "my fitness pal" app and I think that is a nice tool too.

[Tony_SS]

I have got some catching up to do on this thread. I am 32 and recently finished Family Medicine residency and currently practice hospital medicine. I am glad to see some dialogue about making good decisions. Most of what I deal with in patients is self-inflicted on some level. Sure, there is a genetic component to many issues, but on some level you can beat genetics or at least delay their effects with good choices. As for me, I try to eat balanced as much as possible, drink plenty of water, eat plenty of fiber (filling and low calories) and practice intuitive eating. With intuitive eating I choose where and how I spend my calories. If I really want some ice cream at the end of the day, I will cut out calories on the front end throughout the day and allow for a small portion of ice cream. With intuitive eating, you have to really ask yourself do I want it bad enough to make some sacrifices and justify it to yourself, but if you find that you really do want something, it is probably better to allow for a small portion and satisfy the craving. If the craving passes, then you probably didn't really want it anyway. If it hangs around, you may splurge and go overboard in a moment of weakness.

I am working on trying to figure out a good exercise regimen with my bizarre schedule. That is the next step for me.

You should ONLY get your fiber from fruits and veggies... NOT from whole grain - trust me on this.

I was eating shredded wheat every morning for almost a year and the fiber was literally shredding my insides... After some research you find that fiber from grains isn't that healthy at all.

It's just another myth that is spread by the food processing establishment. Grains, sugars, breads all should be at the TOP of the food pyramid, not the bottom, like we are taught in school.

Another fact: Margarine is essentially industrial plastic. The final product is grey until coloring is added to make it look like butter.

[syborg tt]

Another fact: Margarine is essentially industrial plastic. The final product is grey until coloring is added to make it look like butter.

LOL - and the only reason it is around was because of WWII.

ps - Nutri-Sweet is also some scary sh!t

[Tony_SS]

Hey, maybe we are being too hard on margarine... I have some dry end-links that could use some greasing... Hmmm :unibrow:

ps - Nutri-Sweet is also some scary sh!t

Yep, they like to try and rebrand it every now and then... It's called Splenda now? It's all artificial Aspartame which is the fecal matter of e-coli. Sounds yummy huh?! lol

[hifi875]

splenda is reverse engineered sugar i believe. still tastes like a*&

[legend]

I read a few dozen pages of this book last night and I'm sold... ordering it today.

Essentially the establishment is dead wrong on butter, animal fats cholesterol, etc. They are blamed for heart disease when heavily processes vegetable oils are to blame.

And then is goes into studying diet and health from different cultures. Dr. Price found out that people who's diet consisted of grass fed animal meats, butter and diary were the models of perfect health and disease such as cancer, diabetes and heart disease were non existent. Comparing that to our western diet of processed grains, flours and sugar and our health issues, it points out the difference.

Some of it read like a scientific ingredients guide to health too.

The Amazon reviews are a good insight about the book and if you have a Kindle you can download preview.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0967089735/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

in all things apart from horsepower moderation is the key. I agree with the above, but it's not license to chug butter :D

I do think that people 50 years ago probably ate better than we do now.

[Vegas69]

There wasn't any choice in the matter. The covnenience of processed and junk foods just didn't exist. Then you factor in computers and the efficiency that's needed in most lines of work to be successful, and the weight gain makes sense as well. Along with the additives that are toxic.

[Tony_SS]

in all things apart from horsepower moderation is the key. I agree with the above, but it's not license to chug butter :D

I do think that people 50 years ago probably ate better than we do now.

Yes back then real food was still being produced. Go even further back and they were eating very clean.

We are taught from a young age, butter bad! fat bad! cholesterol bad! The truth is if our body doesn't have enough cholesterol our liver will produce it.

No one should chug butter but no one should hold back either.. the idea is to get real butter made from grass fed cows. Your body needs it and its a crucial element for the absorption of vitamins and minerals. Certain animal fats are excellent for you too

I'm currently on the hunt for raw milk from grass fed cows. Here in MO it's illegal for a supermarket to sell that but it is legal for me to buy direct from a dairy farmer. Raw milk from grass fed cows tastes amazing... after trying some of friends supply, I never want to drink dead sugarized milk again.

We also started going to the local farmers market for our fruit and veggies. I picked up some local honey made just across the river from us and so far no allergies this fall! The local organic produce is great too. Our neighbor sells eggs from grass fed chickens too.. you can tell by the difference in the yolks.. a dark orange is good...supermarket eggs from 'happy farms' will be a pale yellow.

Anyway I'm rambling now... my point is don't believe all this nonsense we are taught.. special interests are influencing based on their profit motive.

[Tony_SS]

There wasn't any choice in the matter. The covnenience of processed and junk foods just didn't exist. Then you factor in computers and the efficiency that's needed in most lines of work to be successful, and the weight gain makes sense as well. Along with the additives that are toxic.

In just a few generations we have lost so much... my great grandparents were making healthly bone broth soups, eating goose, duck and so many other great things for you.

Now somewhere in a room the food processing industry and the health industry are laughing all the way to the bank, with a quick stop to buy influence and power in DC. One the way back, grants to universities facilitate their 'education'.

[nicks67ca]

In just a few generations we have lost so much... my great grandparents were making healthly bone broth soups, eating goose, duck and so many other great things for you.

Now somewhere in a room the food processing industry and the health industry are laughing all the way to the bank, with a quick stop to buy influence and power in DC. One the way back, grants to universities facilitate their 'education'.

I agree....I try to avoid as much of the processed food as possible. Do I still eat them yes but I make an effort not to. In CT you can still find farmers markets. My mom raises chickens it started as just something to do (now that her kids are all adults), but now she has over 50 birds and does fresh eggs everyday. I haven't bought eggs in over a year and her's are the best tasting i've had. My brother also plants a 3 acre property across the street (no pesticide use) from my parents and grows cucumbers, tomato, squash, peppers, and sweet corn. My wife and I take as much fresh produce was we can and we make home made baby food for our 7 month with it (saves money and we know whats in it). While this isn't available for everyone I take advantage of it as much as possible. There is a noticeable different in the quality. It becomes difficult in winter months but she does canning to preserve as much as she can.

Here is some interesting watching its gets a little doom and gloom but it makes some pretty compelling points.

The Future of Food
http://www.hulu.com/watch/67878

[Tony_SS]

I agree....I try to avoid as much of the processed food as possible. Do I still eat them yes but I make an effort not to. In CT you can still find farmers markets. My mom raises chickens it started as just something to do (now that her kids are all adults), but now she has over 50 birds and does fresh eggs everyday. I haven't bought eggs in over a year and her's are the best tasting i've had. My brother also plants a 3 acre property across the street (no pesticide use) from my parents and grows cucumbers, tomato, squash, peppers, and sweet corn. My wife and I take as much fresh produce was we can and we make home made baby food for our 7 month with it (saves money and we know whats in it). While this isn't available for everyone I take advantage of it as much as possible. There is a noticeable different in the quality. It becomes difficult in winter months but she does canning to preserve as much as she can.

Here is some interesting watching its gets a little doom and gloom but it makes some pretty compelling points.

The Future of Food
http://www.hulu.com/watch/67878

You are lucky.. I think raw milk is legal to buy up in CT too... sounds like you are well informed. If more people are educated about what real food is, the demand will increase at those farmers markets.

The old saying, an apple a day keeps the Dr. away is completely true. The key is to eat the whole apple, most importantly the seeds. They are very high in b17. b17 is a natural form of cyanide.. don't let that scare you, it's nature's anti-cancer. It's a ph balancer and blood cleanser. But don't just eat the apple seeds alone, eat the whole apple with them.

Here's a list of other foods high in b17
http://www.vitaminb17.org/

[gearheads78]

Well today is my last day of our 7 week biggest looser contest at work. I have only been one of the few to take it serious. Weigh in is in the morning. Several other guys talking about flushing their systems an quick loss methods to try to catch up and win the money. I think I am going to win but don't know for sure until then. Having the fun of jury duty today. Going to just drink water all day just to see if I can maybe knock off one more pound. I'll share final results Friday.

[Tony_SS]

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

Does anyone else have a bad habit? I am trying to kick soda. I don't drink coffee so I've had a Mt. Dew every morning for the past 10 years. I used to need a Dr Pep in the afternoon but I kicked that habit... so finally the Mt Dew throwback is available which uses real sugar in the soda instead of corn syrup which better but I need to get off the stuff.

So Tues and Thurs I'm drinking my apple cider vinegar concoction instead of soda in the morning... man, I am really jonesing for a Mt. Dew right now!!!

[gearheads78]

I drank dr pepper 2-3 times a day before I started this. First two weeks killed me but now i don't even miss them. I've had 4 in the last 7 weeks.

[legend]

I'm all good except beer :thumbsup:

I give it up for a month once a year or so, but I love a cold one.

It's not quite as bad as they make out, here's an article on alcohol (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny/a_muscleheads_guide_to_alcohol_1)
Apoligies about the muscley blokes all over the article, T-nation add stupid images to all the articles

[hifi875]

I have all kinds:

choc chip cookies

sweet tea

coke -maybe one every other day

and lots of others but i do it in moderation.

But I am definitely aware of it and control it. But I like to enjoy life and I run 30-40 miles a week and work out, so i can handle it.

[skatinjay27]

Well today is my last day of our 7 week biggest looser contest at work. I have only been one of the few to take it serious. Weigh in is in the morning. Several other guys talking about flushing their systems an quick loss methods to try to catch up and win the money. I think I am going to win but don't know for sure until then. Having the fun of jury duty today. Going to just drink water all day just to see if I can maybe knock off one more pound. I'll share final results Friday.
get to a sauna or find a way to sweat it out real hard tomorrow morning and youll lose some water weight too.

[skatinjay27]

I have all kinds:

choc chip cookies

sweet tea

coke -maybe one every other day

and lots of others but i do it in moderation.

But I am definitely aware of it and control it. But I like to enjoy life and I run 30-40 miles a week and work out, so i can handle it.

for me thats the most realistic way...
cutting out thing you enjoy completely will cause you to eventually back step(hard)
and drinking apple cider vinegar as opposed to dew seems like a fail waiting to happen...but then again i f-in HATE apple cider vinegar!;) just thinking about the smell makes me sick. luckily for me i have always been a water/tea drinker even as a kid , never been crazy about anything carbonated...

for me i know i will fail if i cut out junk foods completely... so Ive learned ways to just make them a lil better for you... so if im at work and i want fries and fingers i just bake it all, and taste wise its really not that much different,when i crave chicken wings i just have grilled chicken and cut it up and toss it in buffalo sauce... but even with those i only do it once a week.

i totally agree with my team driver senor akes, as i see it all the time that when people go fully extreme INSTANTLY the chances that they will give up or back step are pretty high. i cant even imagine the number of Americans that probably have the P90x or insanity DVDs under their TV that only the first months is even opened. lol

[Tony_SS]

It's not the refined junk off the shelf! It's Braggs ACV, I mix it with one part cranberry juice and 2 parts water... I actually crave it. I got my father in law hooked on it too.

I know I can do this... no Dew for me today... tomorrow I will have one. And next week and cut it out on Tues and Thurs again... I'm slowly weening myself off the stuff.

I think this weekend I am going to get crazy and buy a fountain 32oz Dr Pepper though! :lol:

[Vegas69]

One important thing to remember, it's not always going to be smooth sailing even with a great diet and excercise program. My runs and workouts have been really tough this week. I think I may be fighting off a cold that's going around my office. As bad as I wanted to quit both days with a mile to go, I pushed through the mental block and finished all my work outs.

This week is boiler plate for a back slide in life. It would have been too easy to skip days and get back into those old excuses and routines. It doesn't matter if it's excercise, diet, relationships, finances, business, etc... you are going to have tough days and weeks. The key is to stay on the path and realize that life is never perfect. Endure the tough days and your new, good habits, will be stronger than ever after you cross the hurdle.

This is exactly where most people fail. They give up too easy and slide right back into their old comfort zone. Don't be one of the weak.

[Tony_SS]

Sweet Jesus this Mt. Dew throwback taste good.

:captain:

I tried...

[legend]

you can eat some junk and still be healthy, trying to cut it out completly may lead to binges

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/#printpreview

in this article Alan Aragon explains it all

[gearheads78]

Well its official I won first place. 186.2 from 216.6 in 45 days. Its was based on percentage so a smaller guy like me could compete with the 300plus guys. Not only did I win by percentage but only one guy lost more pounds than me and it was only 3 more. He started at 290. I went right to Grandy's for a hot cinnimon roll after weigh in. :lol: It was gooooood!!

[hifi875]

thats great!! now just keep it off. Its fine to indulge, just in moderation...
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

That is awesome man. :thumbsup: My only concern for you is the rate of weight loss. Your metabolism may be in a slower state than you realize. Gradually increase your calorie intake and excercise so your weight loss is sustainable, not simply a process that won you a competition.

[gearheads78]

Trust me I know that. I'm not going back to anything like I was. I'll do a little celebrating this weekend and then back to the same routine. I'm in it for the long hall now.

[Tony_SS]

Good job! Allow yourself one celebration meal... don't throw it all away. :thumbsup:

[skatinjay27]

Good job! Allow yourself one celebration meal... don't throw it all away. :thumbsup:

one? you can have 3 cheat meals a week and still be healthy and maintain...

now the new key for you to easily maintain would be to speed up you metabolism, eating at least 5 small meals a day.

[Vegas69]

one? you can have 3 cheat meals a week and still be healthy and maintain...

now the new key for you to easily maintain would be to speed up you metabolism, eating at least 5 small meals a day.

It depends. :D On your age, goals, excercise program, and tolerance with how you look in the mirror.

[skatinjay27]

It depends. :D On your age, goals, excercise program, and tolerance with how you look in the mirror.im not talking large amounts, just "dirty" foods. theres plenty of professional body builders that do it when there not cutting for a show. but i agree with you on the age and exercise factor. as long as your steadily exercising and your metabolism is kicked into high gear and you eat that cheat meal at the proper times of the day it should be fine, that is unless your goal is to always live at say 5% body fat! (or trying to cut weight)

while were on the subject , i had my first cheat meal today since last Thursday and i tried five guys burgers n fries...


damn that was good!!!! i then lifted weights for about 45min right after though...

[hifi875]

Ran 17.5 today in 2:46. Burned over 2000 calories. I totaled 40 miles this week. A big deal for me. But I gotta turn around and run 20 next sat. I am going to pig out today!

[skatinjay27]

wow!:yes:

[pokey64]

Weighed in at an even 207 this morning. I’m down 24.8lbs from my starting point and on track for meeting my initial weight goal.

I had a sobering thought pass through my head today. I don’t have an exercise regimen in place so I try to get it in where I can. We just stocked up on softener salt so I decided to carry the bags to the basement one at a time. I put our 18lb 6mo old in one arm and a 40lb bag of salt in the other. This was an extra 58lbs on me. I carried the weight fine but it dawned on me that the combined weight was my all-time high of 265. I can’t imagine having that weight on me again. Thoughts like these really remind me of why this needs to be a lifetime change.

Since I was so heavy when I was young I got a lot of compliments when I first got down into the 220-30 range. It was pretty easy to accept that as good normal. I carry my weight all over so it took loosing 15lbs this time around for many people to see it on me. It feels good to be getting positive reinforcement again but I’m not stopping this time. My current goal is to hit 199. After that I’ll revaluate things and make a new plan.

Thanks to all of you for contributing great info! :lateral:

[Vegas69]

That's awesome Ed. I've been enjoying the same fruits of my labor. I've had more compliments on my physique in the last 30 days than I've had in a long time. I like your talk of a lifestyle change. That's really the key.

Over the last couple months I've seen my broker walk in with fast food for breakfast multiple days. I kept telling him the same thing, " We need to talk". He came in my office last week and wanted to go to lunch and talk. I put together a document going over the basics of getting him on the road to weight loss and a healthy lifestyle. I named the document, "Tim's health plan that rivals his business plan". He's a great business man that makes plenty of money. I looked him right in the face and told him that I felt he was a great business man but he's taking care of everything BUT himself. He's mid 40's, 5'9" and 238 lbs! I later found out he's diabetic. Anyway, he set a goal of losing 13 lbs in 6 weeks at lunch. I sent an email out to the entire company stating his desire and to keep him accountable. I've outlined a winning game plan for him. I hope he takes the bait and chooses to make the postive changes to his life.

One of my favorite changes in my philosophy is the joy of investing life into life. Six months ago I wouldn't have tried to change his life. Whether it works out or not, I tried....

[skatinjay27]

yeah^^^^ for me whats mad it so much easier to eat better and exercise often is the results im see in the mirror and feeling, and my family and others see the change and mention it!!! and as the results progress and you see the "fruits" its get easier and i even get excited about eating clean and exercising!!! its crazy to see pics of me when i was nearing 230 and at the time i just thought i was average size now when i see them i think "damn i was fat, why didn't anyone say anything to me!" lol

[glassman]

Todd, I read a statistic somewhere (i cant remember the number) where if you have somebody "Encouraging" you, your chances of success are way more higher.

I do the same thing at my company, try to get everybody to eat well, including myself. We have seven employees and everyone is in their target zone for height/weight, But still, eating is what fuels us.

Remember guys, "If you've got your health, you've got your wealth", now lets build upon that...

[legend]

the 5 small meals thing makes NO DIFFERENCE to your metabolism. What makes a difference is your total food consumed during the day.

[hifi875]

the 5 small meals thing makes NO DIFFERENCE to your metabolism. What makes a difference is your total food consumed during the day.

It's really the difference between how much you eat versus how much you use!

[legend]

It's really the difference between how much you eat versus how much you use!

I agree, but eating it spread over 5 meals will have no benefit over eating it spread over 2 or 3

[syborg tt]

the 5 small meals thing makes NO DIFFERENCE to your metabolism. What makes a difference is your total food consumed during the day.

Not to sound like a Jerk but welcome to the Early 80's thought process

Yes 5 small meals a day will help you lose weight.

The more you eat in one sitting the harder it is for your body to digest all of the food. What your body doesn't digest for energy it will store as fat for future needs.

Just think of a diabetic they need to eat 5 or 6 small meals. If they don't blood sugar levels and insulin levels go crazy. So simplely put 5 or 6 meals a day is what you should strive for.

Also talk to any body builder and ask them how many meals they eat a day. Or for that matter ask any professional athlete they all eat many small meals.

Other tip that is pretty simple. Toss out your large dinner plates and switch to a 9" plate it's a simple way to control your portions.

[skatinjay27]

I agree, but eating it spread over 5 meals will have no benefit over eating it spread over 2 or 3thanks for the insight, i just did a search on this and did find many points that there is not real scientific proof it does speed up your metabolism and what makes it work are other reasons, like curbing cravings and binges ,and by your body feeling "fed" all day encourages you body to be in a fat burning mode. (which is confused with speed up metabolism)

i still intent to stick to eating 6-7 meals a day since for the other stated reasons its been working for me. also i feel weight down when i just have 2-3 large meals, buts good to know its not a big deal to do it that way when i have super busy days and its a hassle to eat multiple small meals. thanks for the knowledge legend, otherwise i wouldnt have ever even questioned it as the people recommending it are clients of my wife a : nutrionist and competing body builders (husband and wife) who have awe inspiring physique's.

[IMPALA MAN]

To all. I have tried something new the last few months and it is working GREAT!
I didn't get this from any plan, just good old common sense.
First I wanted to begin losing weight. I knew from past experience, it was easy to get discouraged and go back to my old ways. So here is what I did and do.
1. I eat smaller portions. Not super diet food, just smaller portions. Example ( a real one that I do): At Arby's instead of a triple roast beef, I get a single. I still get the fries. When I finish the sandwich and fries, I'm full and not hungry. Before, I was stuffed. I eat a banana for breakfast instead of a sausage, egg and cheese sandwich. NOTE: when I do get hungry....I eat. It is very important that your body does not stay hungry as it will start to preserve fat.

2. I exercise Mon, Wed, Fri. EVERY WEEK. My exercise....I burn 300 calories on my treadmill. Another important piece of information!! I DO NOT LET MY HEART RATE GET OVER 145. This is what the book that came with the treadmill instructed to do.

RESULTS???? A consistent 2 lbs a week. I started at 225. Am now at 201 and expect to break the 200 mark within the next day or so. My ideal weight is supposedly 145. That seems a little skinny, but we'll see when we hit 170.

PEOPLE, THIS WORKS, DOES NOT TURN YOUR WORLD UPSIDE DOWN, AND IS SOMETHING SOMEONE COULD DO A LONG TIME WITHOUT GETTING DISCOURAGED.

PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND! Every brick building you see has had the bricks laid one at a time. After thousands of years, it still has to be done, one brick at a time! We went to the moon, and are still laying bricks one at a time!

The same with many things, including weight loss.....one pound at a time!
Just my two cents worth.

[Tony_SS]

Message of the day: Crap in, crap out. That is all. :lol:

edit: Good job Impala Man!

[syborg tt]

Message of the day: Crap in, crap out. That is all. :lol:

edit: Good job Impala Man!

LOL

Here is my message of the day

Chemo in, Bio-Hazzard Out -- That is all

[Tony_SS]

LOL

Here is my message of the day

Chemo in, Bio-Hazzard Out -- That is all

dammit Marty.. I hope you're not having to do that!

Here's another topic...

Who drinks diet soda?

[hifi875]

dammit Marty.. I hope you're not having to do that!

Here's another topic...

Who drinks diet soda?
Not me. Not only does it taste bad, it's not good for you. Your better off drinking reg coke. It s funny to see people ordering these with their big macs etc

[gearheads78]

To all. I have tried something new the last few months and it is working GREAT!
I didn't get this from any plan, just good old common sense.
First I wanted to begin losing weight. I knew from past experience, it was easy to get discouraged and go back to my old ways. So here is what I did and do.
1. I eat smaller portions. Not super diet food, just smaller portions. Example ( a real one that I do): At Arby's instead of a triple roast beef, I get a single. I still get the fries. When I finish the sandwich and fries, I'm full and not hungry. Before, I was stuffed. I eat a banana for breakfast instead of a sausage, egg and cheese sandwich. NOTE: when I do get hungry....I eat. It is very important that your body does not stay hungry as it will start to preserve fat.

2. I exercise Mon, Wed, Fri. EVERY WEEK. My exercise....I burn 300 calories on my treadmill. Another important piece of information!! I DO NOT LET MY HEART RATE GET OVER 145. This is what the book that came with the treadmill instructed to do.

RESULTS???? A consistent 2 lbs a week. I started at 225. Am now at 201 and expect to break the 200 mark within the next day or so. My ideal weight is supposedly 145. That seems a little skinny, but we'll see when we hit 170.

PEOPLE, THIS WORKS, DOES NOT TURN YOUR WORLD UPSIDE DOWN, AND IS SOMETHING SOMEONE COULD DO A LONG TIME WITHOUT GETTING DISCOURAGED.

PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND! Every brick building you see has had the bricks laid one at a time. After thousands of years, it still has to be done, one brick at a time! We went to the moon, and are still laying bricks one at a time!

The same with many things, including weight loss.....one pound at a time!
Just my two cents worth.

Good job that's basically what I have done too with great results so far.

[syborg tt]

dammit Marty.. I hope you're not having to do that!

Here's another topic...

Who drinks diet soda?

Yep - started Chemo 4 weeks ago only 5 months to go

Diet Soda - now that is just as scarry as Chemo in my book

[legend]

Not to sound like a Jerk but welcome to the Early 80's thought process

Yes 5 small meals a day will help you lose weight.

The more you eat in one sitting the harder it is for your body to digest all of the food. What your body doesn't digest for energy it will store as fat for future needs.

Just think of a diabetic they need to eat 5 or 6 small meals. If they don't blood sugar levels and insulin levels go crazy. So simplely put 5 or 6 meals a day is what you should strive for.

Also talk to any body builder and ask them how many meals they eat a day. Or for that matter ask any professional athlete they all eat many small meals.

Other tip that is pretty simple. Toss out your large dinner plates and switch to a 9" plate it's a simple way to control your portions.

I love the early 80s

You're wrong there Marty, but then again, whatever you prefer and can stick to is better than some "ideal" theory.

a calorie deficit is the only way you can lose weight. It makes no difference if you eat it in 1 big go or in 10 little goes. What does matteri s what keeps you on track. If lots of small meals help you avoid raiding the cookie jar, then it'll result in less overall calories.

Your body is awesome at digesting food, eat a 12 ounce steak, let me know if any of it makes it all the way through without getting digested on the way :D


here is A scientific look at the research data on this, scroll down to Alan's article.

http://www.leangains.com/2011/04/critique-of-issn-position-stand-on-meal.html

[fleetus macmullitz]

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Sunday is Dick LeBeau's 75th birthday. After you pick your jaw up off the floor -- the Steelers' Hall of Fame defensive coordinator could pass for 57, easy -- consider the gift the football gods have given him: On the day he turns three-quarters of a century, he gets to playcall Pittsburgh's opener. Against Peyton Manning. "That's not a real appetizing part of this birthday, trying to defend one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time," LeBeau said from his Steelers office Wednesday night. "But honestly, playing the game Sunday soothes the fact that it's my 75th a little bit."

Now for how LeBeau stays young. He runs before practices, on the field. He golfs a lot in the offseason. He does crossword puzzles and mental games. He hangs around the youngest players on his unit, to learn the latest in youth-think."It's a young man's game, but in my heart, I still think I qualify," he said. "I'm surrounded by young people, which helps. I honestly don't think about it much, but I have made a promise to myself: If I ever feel myself slipping, I'll get out. I haven't felt it yet. ''No one's pushing him out the door. At 74, LeBeau orchestrated the league's No. 1 defense, both in yards and points allowed. Keep doing those crosswords, coach.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/09/07/steelers-dick-lebeau/index.html#ixzz25pCgMuSX

[ErikLS2]

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[Chad-1stGen]

How's everyone doing.

I've been doing Myfitnesspal for almost 2.5 months. I've lost a bit over 20 lbs and am 1.4 lbs away from my target weight of 195. My body fat % as of tonight is at 15.7% from somewhere in the mid/high 20's.

Tomorrow my wife and I are starting a round of P90X. I will be doing it for increased health and fitness and my wife will be doing it for that and weight loss. If anyone else was thinking about P90X there is no time like the present!

Not to sound like a Jerk but welcome to the Early 80's thought process

Yes 5 small meals a day will help you lose weight.

The more you eat in one sitting the harder it is for your body to digest all of the food. What your body doesn't digest for energy it will store as fat for future needs.

Just think of a diabetic they need to eat 5 or 6 small meals. If they don't blood sugar levels and insulin levels go crazy. So simplely put 5 or 6 meals a day is what you should strive for.

Also talk to any body builder and ask them how many meals they eat a day. Or for that matter ask any professional athlete they all eat many small meals.

Other tip that is pretty simple. Toss out your large dinner plates and switch to a 9" plate it's a simple way to control your portions.

As others have said there is no scientific evidence that 5-6 meals a day impacts your metabolism. However, I just wanted to point out that there is a lot of evidence coming out around fasting that indirectly sheds some light on why lots of small meals my in fact be bad or of no consequence. You point out insulin spikes which can happen from a large "unhealthy" meal, however the best time for body's insulin sensitivity is breakfast. Not because it is in the morning but because it is after a "fast" or period of time in which you haven't been eating. I encourage folks to watch the documentary video by the BBC that I linked a few pages back if you want to learn more about some of the latest thinking on meal timing and frequency.

[Chad-1stGen]

I am not a morning person and I hate working out but I got up today and finished the Day 1 P90X work outs first thing this morning at 6:00am. Any other P90X takers want to do this thing?

[legend]

P90X looks like a lot of effort for minimal gain. I think there are easier ways of getting in shape, but it's whatever floats your boat

Martin Berkhan has done a lot of research into intermittant fasting, you can find him at Leangains.com He's a bit of an asshat though :D but definitely in shape.

Intermiittant fasting or "skipping breakfast" is suprisingly easy to stick to and may have some benefits that aren't entirely clear yet. What he does do though that makes the most difference is always cover his protein needs and keep an eye on overall calories.

John Berardi who is possibly the most friendly and innofensive face of the fitness industry tried out all of the variants of fasting and wrote it all up in this free book

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/intermittent-fasting

[Chad-1stGen]

Day 2 Plyometrics is DONE! Got up early and did it first thing at 6:00 am again. Man that workout is murder for folks not in good shape or with weak cores like myself. Put I pushed through and modified where I had to.

Also, I am following the nutrition plan. Day 1 consisted of:

Breakfast: egg white mushroom scramble, cup of strawberries and 12 oz non fat milk
snack 1: protein bar
Lunch: green apple & chicken salad
snack 2: 30 pistachios
Dinner: 9.5 oz of chicken (lunch was a bit light), 2.5 cups of broccoli, single multi grain English muffin with no topping.

Also supplemented with recovery drink and a protein drink. You sure don't go hungry on P90X.

P90X looks like a lot of effort for minimal gain. I think there are easier ways of getting in shape, but it's whatever floats your boat

Having done P90X before I strongly disagree with your first sentence, though I do agree with your second sentence. P90X IS very hard work, especially for folks not used to measuring their food and/or high intensity and frequent workouts! However, you can see huge gains! I personally had significant gains in strength and significant losses in weight, body fat and just pure inches around my waist, stomach and butt. I also reduced my chronic back pain significantly.

If all you want to do is loose weight then P90X is a lot of extra work. If all you are looking to do is get mildly better shape then again it is a lot of extra work. However, if you want huge gains in a short period of time it kicks ass.

EDIT: I wanted to add that the first time I did P90X I was out of shape and overwieght a little bit (lost 20 lbs the first time). This time, I'm starting after 3 months of just trying to be more active in the form of fast paced walking and biking and 2+ months of using myfitnesspal to track what I eat but still eating the things I like that happen to be a bit healthier. That means that this time I'm starting P90X only a few pounds heavier than when I ended P90X last time, I'm also close to the same body fat % as what I ended at last time. However, I don't have near the muscle size or definition and my chronic back pain is bad. I'm looking forward to blowing my previous results out of the water since I'm starting off not having to loose a bunch of weight. I'd love to get down to single digit body fat % or even close to ~10% in my mid 30's.

[Tony_SS]

Day 2 Plyometrics is DONE! Got up early and did it first thing at 6:00 am again. Man that workout is murder for folks not in good shape or with weak cores like myself. Put I pushed through and modified where I had to.

Also, I am following the nutrition plan. Day 1 consisted of:

Breakfast: egg white mushroom scramble, cup of strawberries and 12 oz non fat milk
snack 1: protein bar
Lunch: green apple & chicken salad
snack 2: 30 pistachios
Dinner: 9.5 oz of chicken (lunch was a bit light), 2.5 cups of broccoli, single multi grain English muffin with no topping.

Also supplemented with recovery drink and a protein drink. You sure don't go hungry on P90X.

If I may offer a critique to that diet plan, it is very outdated and misguided!

Eat the whole egg, including the yolk! and drink vitamin D milk.
Include dark meat chicken
Steam the broccoli and include other veggies like carrots and cauliflower and add real butter and real sea salt!
Skip the 'whole grain' anything and eat very minimal amounts of breads.
Skip the 'protein' drink... synthetic protein is rancid and unhealthy.

The myth that saturated fat is bad for us is simply NOT true! It is essential for our bodies to have that.
Sugars, flours, fillers, processed grains, vegetable oils are bad for us.

Google Weston A Price for more info.

[Neil B]

Skip the 'protein' drink... synthetic protein is rancid and unhealthy.



Please explain. Specifically, what is rancid and unhealthy about supplementing with whey protein isolates mixed in water?

[Tony_SS]

Please explain. Specifically, what is rancid and unhealthy about supplementing with whey protein isolates mixed in water?

A few reasons... it's sub par protein, highly processed, denatured and those powders contain other junk like msg, sugar, empty carbs but most importantly they are missing essential fats that are needed with protein to avoid vitamin A and calcium striping. Protein powders are an industrial waste product from cheese production.

If you want protein, drink raw milk. You guys out in CA are lucky, you can buy raw milk! If you can get raw milk, do it.

Otherwise settle for whole milk, eggs, seafood, meat, chicken and nuts as a protein source. Each of these items naturally contain the essentially fats needed with protein intake.

[Chad-1stGen]

If I may offer a critique to that diet plan, it is very outdated and misguided!

Eat the whole egg, including the yolk! and drink vitamin D milk.
Include dark meat chicken
Steam the broccoli and include other veggies like carrots and cauliflower and add real butter and real sea salt!
Skip the 'whole grain' anything and eat very minimal amounts of breads.
Skip the 'protein' drink... synthetic protein is rancid and unhealthy.

The myth that saturated fat is bad for us is simply NOT true! It is essential for our bodies to have that.
Sugars, flours, fillers, processed grains, vegetable oils are bad for us.

Google Weston A Price for more info.

Thanks for the feedback/suggestions Tony. I've been doing all kinds of reading lately on this kind of stuff and have been experimenting with food recently. However, the next 90 days while doing P90X I will stick with their nutrition plan because I've done it before and it works.

I did google Weston A Price and found it ironic that you state my diet plan is very outdated and misguided when Weston Price did his research 70-80+ years ago and there is quite a bit online in the short time I googled evidencing he was way off base on stuff. His observations sound a whole lot like the paleo diet which does clearly work very well for folks and I'm curious about possibly trying it after I complete P90X.

That said I am getting more into natural foods and but I am not gonna eat dark meat cause I hate the taste :)

[Tony_SS]

Thanks for the feedback/suggestions Tony. I've been doing all kinds of reading lately on this kind of stuff and have been experimenting with food recently. However, the next 90 days while doing P90X I will stick with their nutrition plan because I've done it before and it works.

I did google Weston A Price and found it ironic that you state my diet plan is very outdated and misguided when Weston Price did his research 70-80+ years ago and there is quite a bit online in the short time I googled evidencing he was way off base on stuff. His observations sound a whole lot like the paleo diet which does clearly work very well for folks and I'm curious about possibly trying it after I complete P90X.

That said I am getting more into natural foods and but I am not gonna eat dark meat cause I hate the taste :)

:lol: I appreciate that humor! lol. It's true, he did his studies then, but they are not based on fads. Personally I find them fascinating.

By 'dated' I meant in terms of the 'low fat, high protein' craze that was popular in the late 80's-90's. I did p90X. I think it's a great workout. Knowing what I know now about that diet, I very much disagree with it.

The paleo diet is flawed itself too, and is very much a similar fad, but it's a step in the right direction, except for the fact that it discounts the use of quality dairy products. So it's really lacking there.

The food processing industry carries a lot of clout and influence.. unfortunately I think this negatively effects the 'health' industry in which many professionals are misguided about what is healthy and what is not.

Quick example, cholesterol, butter and salt are all very good for you. They have essential saturated fats and iodine that are need for nutrient absorption. If you exclude them from your diet you're going to be deficient. You might 'look' like you are in great shape, but your body will not be healthy.

Foods in their whole natural forms are healthiest and natural fats do not make us fat, they are essential.

[syborg tt]

Quick example, cholesterol, butter and salt are all very good for you. They have essential saturated fats and iodine that are need for nutrient absorption. If you exclude them from your diet you're going to be deficient. You might 'look' like you are in great shape, but your body will not be healthy.

Perfect example: Reduce salt from a pregnant women and see how fast she goes into labor.

Trust me it's a very effective. We need salt and fat in our diet.

ps I will try to post up in the next couple day's the "Cover the Plate" Diet plan that I follow. I've used it for 20 years and had over 100 people follow it and everyone has decreased there bodyfat and maintained it.

and yes it's a 3 + 1 Meal plan designed for our fast paced society.

[legend]

If I may offer a critique to that diet plan, it is very outdated and misguided!

Eat the whole egg, including the yolk! and drink vitamin D milk.
Include dark meat chicken
Steam the broccoli and include other veggies like carrots and cauliflower and add real butter and real sea salt!
Skip the 'whole grain' anything and eat very minimal amounts of breads.
Skip the 'protein' drink... synthetic protein is rancid and unhealthy.

The myth that saturated fat is bad for us is simply NOT true! It is essential for our bodies to have that.
Sugars, flours, fillers, processed grains, vegetable oils are bad for us.

Google Weston A Price for more info.

I'm with this guy :thumbsup:

although whole grains are not the devil either

[Vegas69]

Most everything is OK in moderation. Your not going to see me eating butter with dinner everynight or farm raised fish all the time due to it's increased cholesterol and fat.

If the foods you eat lead you to be overweight, it's going to effect your health in a negative way. From diabetes to lower back pain and on down the line. Then the doctors subscribe pills as a bandaid when a lifestyle change is really what's needed.


"What's easy to do, is also easy NOT to do" -Jim Rohn

I've been trucking along still working out 5-6 days a week and sticking to the same types of foods that got me to my ideal weight of 175. (I tipped the scale at 174.8 after vacation) The weather is finally starting to cool off and I enjoyed my first sub 80 degree run in 4 months this morning.

One thing I've been struggling with for a few weeks is regularity. When I changed my diet I had no problem up until a few weeks ago. It hasn't been discussed, what works for you? I know fiber isn't the problem as I get nearly my daily most days at breakfast.

[skatinjay27]

loosen the stick you got up there!:P

[Chad-1stGen]

Forgot to mention that P90X day 3 is complete :) Got up bright and early and did arms & shoulders & ab ripper

[Tony_SS]

Most everything is OK in moderation. Your not going to see me eating butter with dinner everynight or farm raised fish all the time due to it's increased cholesterol and fat.

We have been taught from day one that these things are bad... they are not! You can eat foods rich in cholesterol and high in saturated fat and you will be as healthy as a horse. It's lubrication and is essential for vitamin and mineral absorption.

If the foods you eat lead you to be overweight, it's going to effect your health in a negative way. From diabetes to lower back pain and on down the line.
All of that is a result of eating too many highly processed grains, sugars and vegetable oils. They are industry byproducts, highly profitable and toxic. They are what cause all heart disease, diabetes, etc that is rampant in the western world's diet.

One thing I've been struggling with for a few weeks is regularity. When I changed my diet I had no problem up until a few weeks ago. It hasn't been discussed, what works for you? I know fiber isn't the problem as I get nearly my daily most days at breakfast.

You could set your clock to my regularity. :lol: Every monring about 8.30 I'm on the throne. I do not eat ANY fiber at all - from grains. All my fiber comes from fruits, vegetables and some from beans.

My suggestion to help. Stop with the fiber from shredded wheat and other 'whole grains'. Cut those out. Increase your vegetable intake. Double it. Peppers, eggplant, broccoli, spinach, asparagus, carrots, etc. Increase your vitamin C. Drink 36-48oz of (non-fluoridated!) water a day. Keep the sugar drinks down to 12oz or less. And get your saturated fats in you. Eat 2-3 eggs every other morning. And, you're in California, yes? Get 12oz of Raw, unpasteurized milk in you every day. Your whole body and energy level will change. You'll be regular and your entrails will be in good health.

We've talked about fads and gimmick in health and diet... the latest gimmick is "whole grains" in everything. Well, this is the another marketing farce. What they really are, is highly processed, GMO grains devoid of any real nutrition. Don't get me wrong, I still eat some grains, but they do not dominate my diet, they are 10-15% of my diet at the most. Anymore than that and your putting too much industrial byproduct inside yourself.

[Chad-1stGen]

I set a goal weight for myself on June 24th, the day I started using myfitnesspal, and this morning i hit it for the first time! I'm stoked. I'm sure I'll bounce above it for a bit as my weight tends to bounce around day to day but will be steadily at or under it soon. That is a weight loss of 23.2 lbs from 6/24 until today.

Oh and P90X day 4 Yoga X workout done.

[JKnight]

Nicely done Chad.

I've considered starting the P90X thing but my schedule kinda sets me up for failure when the goal is to work out as many days in a row as that program requires.

Keep it up!

[Vegas69]

Tony, don't take this the wrong way but have you had your blood checked to see how healthy you really are? What is your height and weight? How often do you excercise?

[syborg tt]

I know this may scare some of you. A very good friend of mine was working for an large Food manufacturer ( can't same the name ) and he had to develope machine for grinding up recycled paper ( the kind you put out in your recycle bin ). The paper of course is ground up very very small and looks like dust.

So what do the do with this. It's th fiber they add into the food we are buying off the grocery store shelf.

and yes I have seen the Machine's in use and let me tell you it's scarry.

[Tony_SS]

Tony, don't take this the wrong way but have you had your blood checked to see how healthy you really are? What is your height and weight? How often do you excercise?

I'm not trying to brag about how 'healthy' I am. I really have no clue if I even am! Health to me is a stress free, happy life. It has nothing to do with a scale or 'cholesterol level'. I don't exercise much.. it does not make me happy. :lol: But I am not 'fat' by our cultural visual standard.

I have plenty of physical ability to do most anything I choose, but good health to me is happiness and (trying to) eat clean.

Now, back to changing your diet!

I know this may scare some of you. A very good friend of mine was working for an large Food manufacturer ( can't same the name ) and he had to develope machine for grinding up recycled paper ( the kind you put out in your recycle bin ). The paper of course is ground up very very small and looks like dust.

So what do the do with this. It's th fiber they add into the food we are buying off the grocery store shelf.

and yes I have seen the Machine's in use and let me tell you it's scarry.

That is disturbing... we aren't eating real food, its industrial waste and chemicals.

No wonder we get all this propaganda about 'whole wheat' and 'fiber'. It's profitable.

[syborg tt]

That is disturbing... we aren't eating real food, its industrial waste and chemicals.

No wonder we get all this propaganda about 'whole wheat' and 'fiber'. It's profitable.


really really

[Vegas69]

Tony, I'm not sure how you give advice when you aren't sure you are healthy? To say that unlimited amounts of cholesterol and saturated fats are good for you is like saying if one beer is good for you, so is a case.

A good buddy of mine is very overweight, eats like crap,(Steak cooked in a skillet full of butter) drinks like a fish, smokes like a freight train and says he feels good all the time. He's a heart attach waiting to happen. His Dad suffered the same fate at only 2 years older than he is today.

Balance and moderation is key. I choose for my diet to be largely made up of fruits, vegetables, raw nuts, cottage cheese, greek yogurt, whole grains, wild ocean fish, and chicken. However, I had steak in my bowl today and eat white rolls, etc.

In life, I like to take advice from people I would trade places with gladly. When it comes to health, I'm not going to listen to my afformentioned buddy.

[Tony_SS]

Tony, I'm not sure how you give advice when you aren't sure you are healthy? To say that unlimited amounts of cholesterol and saturated fats are good for you is like saying if one beer is good for you, so is a case.

A good buddy of mine is very overweight, eats like crap,(Steak cooked in a skillet full of butter) drinks like a fish, smokes like a freight train and says he feels good all the time. He's a heart attach waiting to happen. His Dad suffered the same fate at only 2 years older than he is today.

Balance and moderation is key. I choose for my diet to be largely made up of fruits, vegetables, raw nuts, cottage cheese, greek yogurt, whole grains, wild ocean fish, and chicken. However, I had steak in my bowl today and eat white rolls, etc.

In life, I like to take advice from people I would trade places with gladly. When it comes to health, I'm not going to listen to my afformentioned buddy.

No I never said to eat unlimited amounts of anything. I do like to give my opinions based on my research and what works for me. It's just my .02, it can be taken for what it's worth. I've found it to be good information even though it directly conflicts with the health 'establishment' talking points.

Saturated fat and cholesterol are in fact healthy. Please look into it. Talking about your diet, I would drop the 'whole grains' as much as possible. Cut back on any cheese if you eat alot of that. Try to get some organic plain white yogurt instead. Greek has too much sugar. And watch out for 'sugar free' or 'aspartame' in those yogurts. Eat that stuff and you'll be craving the grains. Toxins are the most addictive.

Steak is good, but should be eaten raw or at least medium. Farm fish is good, shell fish is great... avoid the tuna nowadays thanks to Fukashima. Add some organic pork too like bacon or pork chops.. always change it up with it comes to meats and fish and always go for true organic if possible. I really think you would benefit from raw milk from grass feed cows too. The enzymes and pro-biotics help regulate digestion too. If you're having problems with that, you stomach could need some extra help. Raw milk is good or fermented apple cider vinegar before a meal. Braggs is the best. You can buy it on Amazon or maybe at your local supermarket. I'm about to start on their amino product since most of us are not getting all the amino acids we need.

Your buddy sounds happy but being overweight is not healthy... it could catch up to him but some people can take are just plain immune. My wife NEVER gets a stinking cold!!! If she does its a runny nose for a whole day!

[skatinjay27]

No I never said to eat unlimited amounts of anything. I do like to give my opinions based on my research and what works for me. It's just my .02, it can be taken for what it's worth. I've found it to be good information even though it directly conflicts with the health 'establishment' talking points.
how do you know it works tony... you just said you don't know if you are healthy.

im not disagreeing with your research or science, but i see it as something you just use as justification for the fact that your uncomfortable with the physical shape your in. some of us want to be physically fit so we take advise off of real world results to attain the look and feel we desire.

so for me since my goal is vain, your 2 cent aint worth a penny:P

[Tony_SS]

how do you know it works tony... you just said you don't know if you are healthy.

im not disagreeing with your research or science, but i see it as something you just use as justification for the fact that your uncomfortable with the physical shape your in. some of us want to be physically fit so we take advise off of real world results to attain the look and feel we desire.

so for me since my goal is vain, your 2 cent aint worth a penny:P

Where did you get this "fact"? I'm very content with my "appearance". I just don't base my life around how I look or what I weight. I base it on how I feel. That is not a knock on anyone either.

My point is that you can look "fit" and still be internally unhealthy, deficient or unbalanced. You can look like P90X Tony Horton or Tony Little (Remember him? :lol: ) but can still have toxic 'fiber' constipating you or be poisoned with formaldehyde from diet coke and still 'look good'.

But the good news is you can still eat bacon, butter and eggs and pass for an underwear model if that's what you desire. :lol:

[skatinjay27]

Where did you get this "fact"? I'm very content with my "appearance".
from post #383...
I just don't base my life around how I look or what I weight. I base it on how I feel. That is not a knock on anyone either.
i understand that and didnt see it as a knock.:thumbsup:

[Tony_SS]

from post #383...
Maybe you misread.. I never said I was unhappy with how I look.

[skatinjay27]

no just married so sometimes i see between the lines...

if you post was cut n dry then sorry for the assumption.

[Chad-1stGen]

Just wanted to say that my wife and I finished week 1 of P90X strong. Did all workouts plus the stretch X on Sunday and stuck the nutrition plan.

1 down, 11 to go.

[Vegas69]

I hit my goal weight of 175 a few weeks ago. Since then I've been adding daily calorie intake. I'm eating very well and satisfied all day. I'm still losing weight! I jumped on the scale this morning at 172.6. I need to get back to tracking my diet and force myself to eat more than I need to be full. It's amazing what a consistent healthy diet and excercise will do over time. :thumbsup:

Speaking of excercise. I ran 3 miles in 25:47 this morning which gets me solidly into the high 8 minute mile range. Not great by runner standards but I've kept most of my mass. I've been running for 9 months now. Clearly the weight loss and nutrition change has helped but it's been a slow process. Two weeks ago I was really struggling.

My high intensity weight training has also taken off. While I'm not lifting the sheer weight I did back in my gym rat days, lately I've been able to lift some fairly heavy weight with only 15-30 seconds max between sets. I've now got great endurance lifting fairly heavy weights. I do everything from a farmers walk, jumps onto a podium, and up and down a flight of steps using every 3rd step between weight sets.

The payoff is being in the best shape of my life and my body is looking great! I've been getting so many remarks lately. I was at the parts store last weekend and the parts guy said, " You look like you could lift this battery with one arm to shoulder level". I did too. :lol:

"Everything you have today you've attracted by the person you've become" -Jim Rohn

"Success is not something you find or chase, success is attracted to you by the person you become."-Jim Rohn

"Learn to work harder on yourself than you do on your job."-Jim Rohn

How do you do that? Some examples:

Read books that inspire you and educate you on the area of your life you would like to improve.

Listen to educational cd's in your car instead of the radio.

Book end you day. I like to start mine outside on the patio with Kelli or doing something around the house.
At the end of the day I read a book before bed most days.

Excercise

Improve your nutrition

Volunteer for charity work

Share your knowledge with those that will benefit

Work on your relationships

There are countless more ways to improve yourself. The real key to the equation here is these are all positive influences in your life. The more positive influences you have daily, the less the negative things are going to affect you attitude and philosophy on life.

How NOT to succeed: "A few errors in judgement repeated EVERYDAY"-Jim Rohn

How to succeed: "A few good disciplines repeated EVERYDAY"-Jim Rohn

They don't need to be momumental to start. It can be an apple everyday, a walk around the block, telling your wife you love her.

[James OLC]

I set a goal weight for myself on June 24th, the day I started using myfitnesspal, and this morning i hit it for the first time! I'm stoked. I'm sure I'll bounce above it for a bit as my weight tends to bounce around day to day but will be steadily at or under it soon. That is a weight loss of 23.2 lbs from 6/24 until today.

Oh and P90X day 4 Yoga X workout done.

That pretty much mirrors where I am at this point - less the P90X. I'm down 24 pounds since July 1 and am fighting through another frustrating plateau. I'm an old fart so I'm just doing the old Power90 before trying X. I have another 15 pounds to my goal - I know I'll make it... it's just a matter of when...

[GregWeld]

That pretty much mirrors where I am at this point - less the P90X. I'm down 24 pounds since July 1 and am fighting through another frustrating plateau. I'm an old fart so I'm just doing the old Power90 before trying X. I have another 15 pounds to my goal - I know I'll make it... it's just a matter of when...



Stop back by my house --- I'll fatten you up a bit more! :unibrow: :cheers:

[James OLC]

Stop back by my house --- I'll fatten you up a bit more! :unibrow: :cheers:

So Good..... :drool:

[skatinjay27]

The payoff is being in the best shape of my life and my body is looking great! I've been getting so many remarks lately. I was at the parts store last weekend and the parts guy said, " You look like you could lift this battery with one arm to shoulder level". I did too. :lol:


nice! but why do you need to go to the parts store for some AAA batteries ?
you can get them from the corner store you know.:P

july 20th (209lb)was when i truely decided to get on a new path for my nutrition and exercise, i last weighed myself on saturday and was 190lb:) my waist is down 4 inchs but my upper body and arm are actually larger/wider than before because my weight training has been focused on mass gaining exercise routines . when i look in the mirror ive still got alot more work to do to get to where i want (im thinking to look the way i want ill need to get down near todds weight) but im excited to do so!

BUT i still suck big time at running...i cant run a full mile steady,i need to take like 30sec walking breaks. i have gotten to where i can make it a 1/2 mile then i need to walk for like 1min, then i can finish it out... its still alot better that when i started and was dying after running 100 feet though lol.
the problem isnt physical pain though its that im out of breath, any advice or tips for that?

my wife has also been doing very well (had a baby in march) shes been eating super clean like me and goes to the gym 4-5 time a week about 45 min with weights and 30 min cardio, and on one of those days works with a personal trainer.
how kelli doing todd?

[hifi875]

I hit my goal weight of 175 a few weeks ago. Since then I've been adding daily calorie intake. I'm eating very well and satisfied all day. I'm still losing weight! I jumped on the scale this morning at 172.6. I need to get back to tracking my diet and force myself to eat more than I need to be full. It's amazing what a consistent healthy diet and excercise will do over time. :thumbsup:

Speaking of excercise. I ran 3 miles in 25:47 this morning which gets me solidly into the high 8 minute mile range. Not great by runner standards but I've kept most of my mass. I've been running for 9 months now. Clearly the weight loss and nutrition change has helped but it's been a slow process. Two weeks ago I was really struggling.

My high intensity weight training has also taken off. While I'm not lifting the sheer weight I did back in my gym rat days, lately I've been able to lift some fairly heavy weight with only 15-30 seconds max between sets. I've now got great endurance lifting fairly heavy weights. I do everything from a farmers walk, jumps onto a podium, and up and down a flight of steps using every 3rd step between weight sets.

The payoff is being in the best shape of my life and my body is looking great! I've been getting so many remarks lately. I was at the parts store last weekend and the parts guy said, " You look like you could lift this battery with one arm to shoulder level". I did too. :lol:

"Everything you have today you've attracted by the person you've become" -Jim Rohn

"Success is not something you find or chase, success is attracted to you by the person you become."-Jim Rohn

"Learn to work harder on yourself than you do on your job."-Jim Rohn

How do you do that? Some examples:

Read books that inspire you and educate you on the area of your life you would like to improve.

Listen to educational cd's in your car instead of the radio.

Book end you day. I like to start mine outside on the patio with Kelli or doing something around the house.
At the end of the day I read a book before bed most days.

Excercise

Improve your nutrition

Volunteer for charity work

Share your knowledge with those that will benefit

Work on your relationships

There are countless more ways to improve yourself. The real key to the equation here is these are all positive influences in your life. The more positive influences you have daily, the less the negative things are going to affect you attitude and philosophy on life.

How NOT to succeed: "A few errors in judgement repeated EVERYDAY"-Jim Rohn

How to succeed: "A few good disciplines repeated EVERYDAY"-Jim Rohn

They don't need to be momumental to start. It can be an apple everyday, a walk around the block, telling your wife you love her.

Great job on the running. You have good speed now you just need to extend a little and get to over 40 minutes of running at that pace. You can do it. My wife runs with me some but wont go past 3 miles because she is hardheaded and don't want to admit that running has done more for her than curves or any other thing she has tried. anyway she ended up running 6 miles with me and didn't struggle at all. You can do it easy. I am missing lifting, with marathon training i am lucky to get 1-2 days a week. but i am ready to get back to it after nov. 4.

[yield2me]

I’m 31 and had my first baby 6-1/2 months ago. When I was 27 weeks along, I had the mandatory test for gestational diabetes. My OBGYN was shocked when my blood sugars were off the charts. I was not the typical pregnant lady who would be diagnosed with it (overweight before the pregnancy, diabetes in the family, etc.). I’m about 5’ 4-1/2” and weighed about 125 before I was pregnant. I was already a fairly healthy eater before the pregnancy, but when I found out I was pregnant, I started eating even healthier. Then when I found out I had gestational diabetes, I was almost depressed because I had already been eating really healthy and now I had to be on a special super low carb/no yummy stuff at all kinda diet. It sucked. I had to check my blood sugar 4 times a day and call in my blood sugar numbers twice a week along with everything I had been eating. The doctors/nurses/dieticians were pretty strict. The first 5-6 weeks I was on this diabetic diet, I didn’t gain a single pound. I only gained 18 pounds total for the whole pregnancy (baby boy also decided to show up almost 6 weeks early). So after delivery I went back to eating like I used to and the last 5 pounds of baby weight just would not leave. So I incorporated the diabetic diet, lower calories & portions and a little bit of an Atkins-type diet and I use myfitnesspal.com. The only difference is that if I’m really craving something, I’ll eat it, but in a much smaller portion and then go right back to eating healthy. For me, if I crave something, that craving does not go away until I eat it. Talk about torture for a pregnant lady with diabetes! That was about 10 weeks ago I started that lifestyle change and I have lost 12 pounds. I now weigh 118 which is 7 pounds less now than I did when I got pregnant! And that’s next to no exercise! (hard to find time for that when you have a 6 month old!). 118 is what I weighed back when I was 23 when we got married (almost 8 years ago). So I’m good with this weight. Now it’s just maintaining it and incorporating exercise to tone up when I can find the time.

And the hubby is doing awesome too! Ed (pokey64) is down 30 pounds in the past 10 weeks and down a total of 64 pounds from his heaviest!

Good job everyone on the progress so far! :thumbsup: Keep up the good work!

[Denvervet]

nice! but why do you need to go to the parts store for some AAA batteries ?
you can get them from the corner store you know.:P

july 20th (209lb)was when i truely decided to get on a new path for my nutrition and exercise, i last weighed myself on saturday and was 190lb:) my waist is down 4 inchs but my upper body and arm are actually larger/wider than before because my weight training has been focused on mass gaining exercise routines . when i look in the mirror ive still got alot more work to do to get to where i want (im thinking to look the way i want ill need to get down near todds weight) but im excited to do so!

BUT i still suck big time at running...i cant run a full mile steady,i need to take like 30sec walking breaks. i have gotten to where i can make it a 1/2 mile then i need to walk for like 1min, then i can finish it out... its still alot better that when i started and was dying after running 100 feet though lol.
the problem isnt physical pain though its that im out of breath, any advice or tips for that?

my wife has also been doing very well (had a baby in march) shes been eating super clean like me and goes to the gym 4-5 time a week about 45 min with weights and 30 min cardio, and on one of those days works with a personal trainer.
how kelli doing todd?

You may want to get a physical to rule out a medical condition just to be sure.:thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

nice! but why do you need to go to the parts store for some AAA batteries ?
you can get them from the corner store you know.:P

july 20th (209lb)was when i truely decided to get on a new path for my nutrition and exercise, i last weighed myself on saturday and was 190lb:) my waist is down 4 inchs but my upper body and arm are actually larger/wider than before because my weight training has been focused on mass gaining exercise routines . when i look in the mirror ive still got alot more work to do to get to where i want (im thinking to look the way i want ill need to get down near todds weight) but im excited to do so!

BUT i still suck big time at running...i cant run a full mile steady,i need to take like 30sec walking breaks. i have gotten to where i can make it a 1/2 mile then i need to walk for like 1min, then i can finish it out... its still alot better that when i started and was dying after running 100 feet though lol.
the problem isnt physical pain though its that im out of breath, any advice or tips for that?

my wife has also been doing very well (had a baby in march) shes been eating super clean like me and goes to the gym 4-5 time a week about 45 min with weights and 30 min cardio, and on one of those days works with a personal trainer.
how kelli doing todd?

You may be like me where running doesn't come that natural. Your weight is making it tough to be a natural runner as well. How often do you run? Try to mix in some high intensity lighter weight routines. That will help you with you endurance and increase your lung function. I agree that a physical is a good idea.

Kelli's back to school so she hasn't been doing to well on the excercising. She is down around 5 lbs though.
Great job on the running. You have good speed now you just need to extend a little and get to over 40 minutes of running at that pace. You can do it. My wife runs with me some but wont go past 3 miles because she is hardheaded and don't want to admit that running has done more for her than curves or any other thing she has tried. anyway she ended up running 6 miles with me and didn't struggle at all. You can do it easy. I am missing lifting, with marathon training i am lucky to get 1-2 days a week. but i am ready to get back to it after nov. 4.

Thanks, I want to extend one out on a weekend to at least 5. I like my 30 minute habit as it's doable every workday.

[skatinjay27]

You may be like me where running doesn't come that natural. Your weight is making it tough to be a natural runner as well. How often do you run? Try to mix in some high intensity lighter weight routines. That will help you with you endurance and increase your lung function. I agree that a physical is a good idea.
i try to run at least 4 days a week. but like you've mentioned before sometimes it a struggle these past 3 days i haven't wanted to get up in the morning to run. so ive just been settling for doing 15min at night of jump roping... yeah endurance and lung function is what seem to be my real hurdle at the moment, ill try that.

[legend]

jump rope is a suprisingly hard workout. It's amazing how fit little kids must be.

runners world beginner program on this link (http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-520--9397-F,00.html)

[hifi875]

Got up for a 5am. 13.1 mile run this morning. Knocked it out in 2:01 on a easy pace. On the homestretch in my marathon training(nov.4th). Have already had 4 runs of 17 or more miles. Got a 4hr run coming up next Saturday. That will be fun:D

[skatinjay27]

jump rope is a suprisingly hard workout. It's amazing how fit little kids must be.

runners world beginner program on this link (http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-520--9397-F,00.html)

thanks for the link!

yeah i might have worded it wrong, when i say settle i just meant having to go with a different type of cardio when im trying to make running my cardio since one of my goals is to become a better runner.

i totally agree with you! jumping rope will have me beat when im done with it!
i actually started it because i was reading into hitting the boxing bag for a great cardio work out and the jump rope was part of the workout.

[IMPALA MAN]

To all. I have tried something new the last few months and it is working GREAT!
I didn't get this from any plan, just good old common sense.
First I wanted to begin losing weight. I knew from past experience, it was easy to get discouraged and go back to my old ways. So here is what I did and do.
1. I eat smaller portions. Not super diet food, just smaller portions. Example ( a real one that I do): At Arby's instead of a triple roast beef, I get a single. I still get the fries. When I finish the sandwich and fries, I'm full and not hungry. Before, I was stuffed. I eat a banana for breakfast instead of a sausage, egg and cheese sandwich. NOTE: when I do get hungry....I eat. It is very important that your body does not stay hungry as it will start to preserve fat.

2. I exercise Mon, Wed, Fri. EVERY WEEK. My exercise....I burn 300 calories on my treadmill. Another important piece of information!! I DO NOT LET MY HEART RATE GET OVER 145. This is what the book that came with the treadmill instructed to do.

RESULTS???? A consistent 2 lbs a week. I started at 225. Am now at 201 and expect to break the 200 mark within the next day or so. My ideal weight is supposedly 145. That seems a little skinny, but we'll see when we hit 170.

PEOPLE, THIS WORKS, DOES NOT TURN YOUR WORLD UPSIDE DOWN, AND IS SOMETHING SOMEONE COULD DO A LONG TIME WITHOUT GETTING DISCOURAGED.

PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND! Every brick building you see has had the bricks laid one at a time. After thousands of years, it still has to be done, one brick at a time! We went to the moon, and are still laying bricks one at a time!

The same with many things, including weight loss.....one pound at a time!
Just my two cents worth.

Just weighed in at 195. I plateaued for about a week. Still treadmilling 300 calories three times a week and shedding off weight consistently.

[hifi875]

According to my map my run app I burned 2064 calories on my run today. It takes into consideration the pace, distance and elevation change (hills)

[Sieg]

Bust it all weekend, just sat down and devoured two ice cold Coors Light's and they were soooo good I just might have another! Blackend fresh Ahi coming up dinner. :thumbsup:

[Tony_SS]

Built cedar deck stairs... worked non stop from 8.30a-4pm with a 1/2hr lunch break... That is my workout. :cool:

[Chad-1stGen]

Just wanted to check in and add that my wife and I have completed week 2 of our P90X attempt. Actually we already completed today's workout so we are 15 for 15 days so far. We did the "optional" stretch X on both rest days so far too as I really want to increase flexibility with the workout too.

Friday has a bit of an injury scare but it resolved itself by today's resistance workout and I was able to push hard today. Felt great.

Still on track with the nutrition plan macros too. Two+ weeks of zero junk food and the only "processed" food I've eaten are the P90X supplements and protein bars.

[Chad-1stGen]

Wow a whole week with no updates.

Just another check in to say 3 weeks of P90X down. As of this morning I've done 22 days in a row including the optional hour of stretching on the weekly "rest" days.

Also finally got around to replacing our grill so now I'm eating lots of healthy home grilled chicken breast :)

[Vegas69]

Business as usual for me. Still at 174 lbs and running 30 minutes 2-3 days a week and high intensity weights 2-3 days a week. I normally flip flop week to week.

It's been nice to add some calories back into my diet. I had a nice ribeye on Friday night along with a few hefeweizens and some yogurt and granola for desert. For me, it's due to neccessity to stop the weight loss.

There is no doubt that I finally cut down the right way. My metabolism is in high gear and my nutrition is so good that I can maintain this weight.

[Vegas69]

"We can never totally eradicate the voice of failure from within us. It will always be there, urging us to think and feel and act in a way that is contrary to our best interests. But we can effectively silence the destructive influence by developing a sound philosophy and a positive attitude about life and our future."

-Jim Rohn

"When we are filled with regrets about our past and concerns about the present, then we subconsciously lead ourselves toward a future that is very much like the past we have just left behind."

-Jim Rohn

"To change a life, we must first change our thinking habits"

-Jim Rohn

"The greatest rewards are always reserved for those who bring great value to themselves and the world around them as a result of whome and what they have become"

-Jim Rohn

By now, it's no secret that I'm a big fan of Jim Rohn and his philosophy on life. Influences are a crucial ingredient to the life you want to lead. Jim is one of my major positive influences that displaces the negative influences we all have in life with or without choice. I've read three of his books and have two of his CD's. Invest in yourself!

[glassman]

Yes!! You have to INVEST in yourself....it's all you have! But there are others around you that care about you too....if you take care of yourself (body health and mind) these discipline s will follow you and benefit all who come into your presence...primarily your loved ones.
One of the main reasons we tend to improve ourselves is to maintain our quality of life for those who care about us...

[Vegas69]

Couldn't agree more. :cheers:

[hifi875]

Im still on track for my first marathon nov.4th. Ran over 21 last sat. tomorrow is a light run only 13 miles, then 1 more long run next saturday of 22 miles and i'll be ready. Its really been alot of work, but having a goal makes a big difference. After my marathon, i will find another challenge.

[Fluid Power]

Business as usual for me. Still at 174 lbs and running 30 minutes 2-3 days a week and high intensity weights 2-3 days a week. I normally flip flop week to week.

It's been nice to add some calories back into my diet. I had a nice ribeye on Friday night along with a few hefeweizens and some yogurt and granola for desert. For me, it's due to neccessity to stop the weight loss.

There is no doubt that I finally cut down the right way. My metabolism is in high gear and my nutrition is so good that I can maintain this weight.

Same here with me, I needed to add calories to feel better and ward off the headaches. I was feeling gassed at the end of the day and I knew I was getting plenty of sleep. Added back some calories and boom, I feel great.

[skatinjay27]

185 today.:D

[Vegas69]

Awesome guys!

Six months ago I would've spent my Saturday morning nursing a hang over. Today, I ran my first 5k in 25:29. That equated to 3 in 24:36 which is a personal best for me by almost a minute. Easily the best shape of my life!

I always talk about influences and there importance. Kelli hit her goal weight this week and we are headed out to buy her a new pair of jeans on me. :>)

[hifi875]

Great job!!! That's flying!!

[Flash68]

Todd, that's quicker than a certain black 69 Camaro. Nice work.

[Vegas69]

Thanks fellas, I'm pretty stoked about it.

[Chad-1stGen]

Still going strong on my P90X workouts and nutrition is 99%. So week 4 has come and gone and today was actually day 30 so I'm 1/3 of the way through the program.

I did a food cheat afternoon last Saturday for my bday. I had planned to cheat for that dinner and thanksgiving before I even started P90X so I'm not swimming in regret but wow it was a mistake. I didn't just fall off the wagon so to speak... I jumped off and ate the wagon ha ha. I've been eating 1800-2200 of healthy calories for 4 weeks and then boom I ate over 5K calories in one day mostly from a fat laden dinner (dinner itself wasn't too bad, but the oodles of guac and chips, bean dip appetizer and two servings of super rich chocolate cake is what killed me). My body revolted. I was so sick to my stomach later that night I thought I was going to throw up and part of me wanted to do it to make the stomach pain go away.

I take my 30 day progress measurments and pics in the morning. Looking forward to checking the progress results!

[skatinjay27]

good job!

yeah i was just telling todd how after you eat a cheat meal you think to yourself "i cant believe i ate this crap on a regular basis!"

[Chad-1stGen]

Week 5 is in the history books.

Struggling a bit since Friday as I caused an old upper back sports injury to flare up on pull ups. I've still done all my workouts and food but Wednesday I have another back workout and I'm still icing and taking Advil lol.

I had to renew my license in person at the DMV last week to take a vision and test and update my picture. My old license had my pic and stats from when I was 21. I now weight only 2 lbs more than I did when I was 21. Pretty sweet.

[Tony_SS]

the diet dictator is back!

I thought this was a great segment on CBS news of all places... I can't believe this made it on.

Wheat is harmful for you... because its not wheat anymore! Its a GMO lab creation.. anyway..interesting segment, see what you guys think

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7420352n

[legend]

things could get messy if people decide to give up wheat, what the hell else can we grow in suffient quantities to feed everyone. It might not be the best choice for health, but there's too many people in the world for everyone to live on grass fed beef, wild salmon and broccoli

[Tony_SS]

things could get messy if people decide to give up wheat, what the hell else can we grow in suffient quantities to feed everyone. It might not be the best choice for health, but there's too many people in the world for everyone to live on grass fed beef, wild salmon and broccoli

I don't see a reason to panic.. the free market works it out.

I wish companies wouldn't put out GMO food.. but can you blame them.. it's cheap and addictive. I think in CA there is prop that will force GMO labeling..I think that is a good start but Europe is already ahead of the game banning the stuff.

Anyway I thought that was a neat video.. and it really flys in the face of the whole grain is good for you propaganda that is just patently false.

About 8 months ago I was eating a LOT of wheat/fiber and I was getting stomach cramps and crapping blood and couldnt figure out why.. I'm totally off of it and am completely regular. Don't believe the hype that wheat/whole grains/fiber is good for you! (at one time that might have been true..but not anymore)

[Chad-1stGen]

P90X week 6 done!

[Fluid Power]

Still going strong on my P90X workouts and nutrition is 99%. So week 4 has come and gone and today was actually day 30 so I'm 1/3 of the way through the program.

I did a food cheat afternoon last Saturday for my bday. I had planned to cheat for that dinner and thanksgiving before I even started P90X so I'm not swimming in regret but wow it was a mistake. I didn't just fall off the wagon so to speak... I jumped off and ate the wagon ha ha. I've been eating 1800-2200 of healthy calories for 4 weeks and then boom I ate over 5K calories in one day mostly from a fat laden dinner (dinner itself wasn't too bad, but the oodles of guac and chips, bean dip appetizer and two servings of super rich chocolate cake is what killed me). My body revolted. I was so sick to my stomach later that night I thought I was going to throw up and part of me wanted to do it to make the stomach pain go away.

I take my 30 day progress measurments and pics in the morning. Looking forward to checking the progress results!

This is so true! Eating 'clean' as much as I do a night off the wagon will thrash you. Spent a week in Florida and ate breakfast and lunch at the condo and went to dinner every night. Fresh seafood and everything grilled. I was tempted to eat some fried shrimp but didn't. The last foray off the wagon reminded me of that! The only splurge was beer. I haven't drank very much since working out and watching the diet, but some thing about being in the sun at the beach. Drank a 12 pack over 6 days (!) with no ill effects what so ever. I still ran every day 2.5 to 3 miles. With that being said, I probably won't have 1 beer in the next month!

[hifi875]

michelob ultra the night before a run works really good. makes a good hydrator.

[Vegas69]

I spent last week deer hunting in Northern Nevada. I earned the nickname "The Goat" climbing these mountains. At 9000 feet and near 45 degree angles, I could go and go and go. I was stoked with my stamina.
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[GregWeld]

I could go and go and go. I was stoked with my stamina.


So what! The deer beat your azz... :D

[Vegas69]

Tell that to the deer at the locker. :lol:

[GregWeld]

Tell that to the deer at the locker. :lol:



It didn't happen unless we see pics! :unibrow: :D


Did ya get a nice one this year??

[Vegas69]

It was tough this year, I shot a little fork horn buck. Last year I made Nevada record book. :D

[Flash68]

All I see is a pudgy guy and some damn trees. Where's the beef?

[Track Junky]

It didn't happen unless we see pics! :unibrow: :D




All I see is a pudgy guy and some damn trees. Where's the beef?

Pony up Hoss!!

[Sieg]

Just read a good statement that applies to this thread:

Exercise should be about rewarding your body with endorphins and strength, not about punishing your body for what you've eaten.

[Vegas69]

I like that....:thumbsup: I spent years doing it the wrong way. Eating like crap on the weekends, drinking to much, and trying to make up for it with workouts. It simply doesn't work.

One thing I've touched on in the past is replacing your bad habits with NEW GOOD HABITS. If you want to quit eating bad foods, you better stock the house with good alternatives. If you normally sit on the couch and eat a bag of chips, you better go for a walk. Etc....

During my vacation to the middle of nowhere, we had ribeyes twice, hamburgers, had some beers every night, etc....

When I returned from my trip, I fell right back into my old habits. Only this time, those habits are good ones, not bad.

If you change your ways long enough(At least a few months), those will become your habits and help erase those old engraved bad habits in your brain. Those bad habits will never completely vanish in your mind, but we are what we continually do.

Bad:
"A few errors in judgement repeated everyday"

No excercise
Not enough sleep
Smoking
Drinking to much
Eating bad foods
Doing less than your capable of

Good:
"A few small disciplines repeated everyday"

Exercise
Healthy diet
Book ending your day
Doing all you can do
Positive attitude
Honesty

It's that simple......

[Vegas69]

New Best:

3 Miles:

Mile 1: 7:17
Mile 2: 7:44
Mile 3: 7:36

Total: 22:37
Average Pace: 7.9 mph and 7:35 minute mile

5k: 23:18

Shredded my 5k time of 25:29 only 3 weeks ago WITH competition. :D

Amazing what a good nights sleep and a clear nose will do for me.:thumbsup:

[sik68]

New Best:

3 Miles:

Mile 1: 7:17
Mile 2: 7:44
Mile 3: 7:36

Total: 22:37
Average Pace: 7.9 mph and 7:35 minute mile

5k: 23:18

Shredded my 5k time of 25:29 only 3 weeks ago WITH competition. :D

Amazing what a good nights sleep and a clear nose will do for me.:thumbsup:

Amazing what you can do running from the cops.

[sik68]

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[hifi875]

New Best:

3 Miles:

Mile 1: 7:17
Mile 2: 7:44
Mile 3: 7:36

Total: 22:37
Average Pace: 7.9 mph and 7:35 minute mile

5k: 23:18

Shredded my 5k time of 25:29 only 3 weeks ago WITH competition. :D

Amazing what a good nights sleep and a clear nose will do for me.:thumbsup:

great job. that is lightning fast.

[Vegas69]

:lol: Thanks guys, it felt great. It would've bumped me from 40th to 29th. Looks like a pace in the 6's gets me into the cream of the crop. At only 36 seconds a mile, it's certainly not out of the question. My next goal is to run a 10k but that will change my running dramatically. I'll need to pull back on the reigns to go that distance.
http://lasvegasrunningteam.com/Results/2012/pbsover.htm

[Chad-1stGen]

Nice job Todd!

Just dropping a note to say that I've finished 8 weeks of P90X so far. Last 3 weeks have been extra hard as I caused a flare up in an old injury from wakeboarding but didn't want to mess with my 90 day run. Last week was recovery week so I got a lot better. The real test will be this week.

I got a physical this morning so I'm interested to see what the results of all of this clean eating the past 4 months (super strict the past 8 weeks) and exercise does to my stats. Hoping for a bump in "good" cholesterol as it was low last time.

[hifi875]

Did my first marathon yesterday. 4:35. With a 2:00 split at 13.1 miles. It was a very hilly course with 8 substantial hills. Went out too fast and paid the price in the second half. But it was definitely the hardest thing I've ever done. The last 6 miles were pure hell

[Vegas69]

Nice job Todd!

Just dropping a note to say that I've finished 8 weeks of P90X so far. Last 3 weeks have been extra hard as I caused a flare up in an old injury from wakeboarding but didn't want to mess with my 90 day run. Last week was recovery week so I got a lot better. The real test will be this week.

I got a physical this morning so I'm interested to see what the results of all of this clean eating the past 4 months (super strict the past 8 weeks) and exercise does to my stats. Hoping for a bump in "good" cholesterol as it was low last time.

That takes some real will to do man. :thumbsup: I bet your blood work looks great.

Did my first marathon yesterday. 4:35. With a 2:00 split at 13.1 miles. It was a very hilly course with 8 substantial hills. Went out too fast and paid the price in the second half. But it was definitely the hardest thing I've ever done. The last 6 miles were pure hell

You are a beast man. That's a real accomplishment. A huge congrats to you!:cheers:

I'm still sticking to my good habits. I've been feeling off lately with way less energy so I'm going in to get a physical myself tomorrow to be safe.

[hifi875]

Thanks Todd! My body is tired too. Your body has to rest and recover, if it doesn't our muscles can't rebuild and grow, then you'll get injuries I was lucky to make it thru 4 months of 35-45 miles a week of running and 2-3 days a week of lifting without injury. I always took Fridays off and that's all I needed. I will get back running very light this weekend and lifting probably today. I did lose 6lbs in one day and it won't be hard to get it back. Only want to gain about 3 back

[Vegas69]

I think that may be part of it. My legs were aching last week. Between all my hunting and running I've been busy. :D It's tough to convince myself to take days off from work outs. It's just hard wired like taking a shower or brushing my teeth at this point.

[hifi875]

I think that may be part of it. My legs were aching last week. Between all my hunting and running I've been busy. :D It's tough to convince myself to take days off from work outs. It's just hard wired like taking a shower or brushing my teeth at this point.

i'm the same way! Feel like i'm missing out or a lazy a#$. It will do your body good!!

[Vegas69]

Mapping out your life

My favorite teacher and philoshoper Jim Rohn always says, "The same wind blows on us all, it's the set of the sail.........."

Do you know where you're going or where you want to end up?

Sit down an write down a list of goals and spell out your philosophy. Short term and long term. Give yourself timelines to meet your goals and break them down into categories.

Some of mine for example:

Personal ----Invest life into life through sharing, Improve relationships with the right people, Continous education throughout life
Health ----Run a 10k, Fix my nose, Stay under 175lbs and fit for life
Financial ----Become a millionaire, Retire by 55, Bi-weekly mortgage payments
Business ----Educate myself to become a better leader, Track my business more accurately and adapt constantly, Develop a business model

We are programmed to need that carrot out in front of our nose to keep us motivated. You have to continually review your goals and philosophy and as you check things off the list, you must make new to grow.

I started keeping a journal about two months ago. I write down those great thoughts and days to reflect on along with some bad. You have to study your own life. You can't rely on your own memory.

If you don't have the knowledge or skills, read a book or take a class.

"If you will change, everything will change for you" -Jim Rohn

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[syborg tt]

Delete per your request

[Vegas69]

You are mistaking this thread for the political garbage in the open discussion. I don't want it here.....

[syborg tt]

You are mistaking this thread for the political garbage in the open discussion. I don't want it here.....

Removed per your request.

But I am not sure what you financial goal has to do with Healthy living then ???

Just saying

[Vegas69]

Goals and politics dont jive. Thanks for deleting.

[Flash68]

If anyone is paying 43.9% NET taxes, fire your accountant immediately!

Ok that's it. Back to running, eating and P90X. :D

Seriously, this is a great thread. I don't post a lot but I read it often.

[Chad-1stGen]

Hey guys,

Thought I would check in with an update. I mentioned last week that I was getting a physical this week. Well blood results are in. I don't have a single measurement identified as risky. Every single thing they measured was in the normal range or good.

Specific to cholesterol, I have had high triglycerides and low HDL (good cholesterol) before and while I was able to lower my triglycerides last year my good cholesterol was still 37 which is high risk. Anything below 40 is considered very bad. Well as of Monday is has jumped up to 55 which is good though over 60 is ideal.

Since June 24th my weight is down 33 lbs. Since the start of P90X on 9/10 I've dropped my body fat to under 15%.

Still have 30 days to go on this round of P90X too!

[Flash68]

Chad, that's awesome man. I haven't seen you since RTTC so I might not recognize you. :D :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

That a boy, I should have my blood work in by next week and I'll post it up as well. I'd post a picture of my physique but I don't want anybody going limp wristed on me around this place.:lol:

How about blood pressure?
Bad cholesterol?
Resting heart beat per minute?

[Chad-1stGen]

How about blood pressure?
Bad cholesterol?
Resting heart beat per minute?

I already had good stats on the rest, though I was disappointed that my blood pressure and resting heart rate didn't improve. Going off memory since I don't have the info at my finger tips right now I think bad cholesterol was 118, resting heart rate 74 and BP 110/80.

[hifi875]

Ran a trail 5k today with lots of hills. Ran a 24:11. Not my fastest but trail running a lot more challenging. Won 1st in my age group and 8 th overall. Winning time was 19 and change by a young wipper snapper

[Vegas69]

Nice job sir...:cheers:

[CarlC]

Geez Chad, I didn't think you had that much weight to give up.

Does the weight loss have any affect on the LDL and triclycerides? What does the doctor think?

Mine from last month:

BP 107/68
RHR 66
HDL 109
LDL 36
Triglycerides 52

I put on four pounds so that's the focus now. Travelling for work is not conducive to daily exercise.

Oh, and stop teasing us with threats of photos Todd :theresa:

[James OLC]

Anecdotal blood pressure comment for me - I have been on meds for high BP for the last ten (plus) years but have been off them for the last two months. Weight definitely made a difference and there was (or more correctly is) a tipping point for me. I'm about 3/4 of the way to my goal for the year but have been on a plateau that I haven't been able to break through for the last two or three weeks. Frustrating but I think that I can break through it with a more concerted effort. I have two weeks before heading back to Trinidad so it's going to be now or never to get there by the end of the year.

I agree with Carl - travelling is not conductive...

[CarlC]

I too was on BP meds for six years but am now off of them. A 35# weight loss, a focused diet, and regular exercise works wonders toward lowering the body's workload and increasing efficiencies.

People that have not seen me for a while ask me how I've done it. "Diet and exercise." Most people believe there must be a Silver Bullet, but there isn't.

Loosing weight is kinda like bodywork on a car. The first part is pretty easy, but getting the last % takes proportionally a ton more work. For me simply dieting/restricting caloric intake does not work. I have to exercise regularly and have a reasonable diet to make it work.

[James OLC]

During One Lap you inspired me to try although I didn't "get around to it" until mid summer (when a family loss punctuated the need to be doing something). Started in early July with "just" diet and exercise. Initially I tried radically cutting out everything that I perceived to be unhealthy (real or interpreted) - coffee, booze, anything snack-food-ish - but was provided with some very sage advice: if you plan on dropping weight and keeping it off don't do anything that you can't commit to for the rest of your life. There is a balance that you have to find or you'll end up on a roller coaster.

[Denvervet]

I have followed this thread somewhat and thus not sure what's all been discussed but will contribute that I've learned professionally as well as through a fair amount of reading/personal research.
Omega FA supplementation is legit toward helping with lots of medial issues i.e. cardivascular disease, weight reduction, inflammatory disorders,etc

Eat equal amounts of protein to carbs at every meal or snack.
The protein helps downregulate ( reduce) insulin response to ingested carbs.

Fats don't make one fat....carbs do. Insulin response to carbs is what stores fat....not ingesting fat. In fact fact ingestion in fact slows down stomach emptying and thus carb digestion/absorption. Therefore, understand that eating fat free carbs like potatoe chips is more fattening than regular ones..I'm just saying..;) Fiber is another way to accomplish this which is why green veggies are helpful.

A glycemic index of foods was determined for diabetic patients to help with their blood glucose control and they found out it had added benefits like reduced body fat & reduced blood pressure. There are plenty of sources of this by googling it. For instance one will find that carrots really aren't that good of an alternative to some other carb sources. It just gives an educated way of determing which foods are best to choose when we do eat carbs. You'll be suprised to find out that whole wheat bread is worse than chocolate...love it

I drink whey protein drinks in the morning because I don't want to eat cottage cheese or meats so much then. And if they taste much better than the ones back in the day...I always make extra in the blender and keep in the fridge so I don't have to make every day. Blender is the key to get them to not be clumpy.
I do eat quite a bit of cottage cheese with lunch to give me added protein as well as it is a great type of protein..easily digested, reduced ammonia by- product of digestion, etc. Is great for people and pets with kidney disorders.

As am sure has been already discussed ..its about balance and being informed.

One good book on the subject is a little old now but does explain the basics "The Zone Diet"

Still got to excercise...as a minimun be physically active.

[Vegas69]

I too was on BP meds for six years but am now off of them. A 35# weight loss, a focused diet, and regular exercise works wonders toward lowering the body's workload and increasing efficiencies.

People that have not seen me for a while ask me how I've done it. "Diet and exercise." Most people believe there must be a Silver Bullet, but there isn't.

Loosing weight is kinda like bodywork on a car. The first part is pretty easy, but getting the last % takes proportionally a ton more work. For me simply dieting/restricting caloric intake does not work. I have to exercise regularly and have a reasonable diet to make it work.

You are absolutely right Carl, there is no secret or new magic potion. Consistent discipline is what gets you there. Educating yourself and stocking your cupboards with healthy choices is key.

For instance, a buddy and I went to the 49'ers vs. Bears game on Monday night in San Francisco. I talked him into running across the Golden Gate bridge and back before the game. We had a great time at the game which included some brews. The next day we felt pretty good but a little off. We grabbed a healthy breakfast and then hit the gym on the 35th floor with a bay view. Two work outs on vacation and we were gone for 30 hours.

I always talk about GOOD habits. You can cement them just like BAD habits. They just don't come quite as naturally or quickly.

[glassman]

Question, do most of you hit (for those that go to gyms) the gym every day or every other day?

And if you couldn't do any upper body, what do most of you do?

Reason I ask, I am a cyclist and this time of year it's hard to be consistent with it, not just the weather but the time change. I have to be in the saddle for a 1,5 hour ride by 2:45/3:00 to be back by 430 (dark and super dangerous to be exercising during commute hour, too many close calls).

I don't have the clear to use my upper body till march (major shoulder surgery) otherwise I'd be rowing ( concept 2 ). Excellent tool for those of us who dirt bike.

So....thinking about joining a gym ...they've worked for me in the past, but I like the outdoors too much, rain or shine.

[hifi875]

I lift 3days a week and run 5 days and one day I run steps in the upper deck of a football stadium. Steps only take about 30 minutes but it's the hardest workout of my week.

[Vegas69]

I alternate weeks with 3 days of weights and 2 days of running one week and the opposite the next. I normally get in at least one good walk with Kelli or a hunt on the weekend.

When I go to the gym I don't do to much leg work due to the running but here are some ideas.

I climb the steps from the 1st to 2nd floor. (Every 3rd step) I normally do a set of 5 with no rest between sets.

I jump onto a box for explosiveness. The box is approximately 2 feet tall. I'll do a few sets of 10-15. I do use my arms for to aid in jumping so take it easy on this one.

One leg calf raises on the steps or two leg on the machine.

I'll do lunges down the track between work out stations.

[glassman]

Steps are good. 20 min or so? Think I might try running to. Maybe two three daze...

Still tryin to dial in my diet, been 160 the last fifteen years, since I've been in the saddle the last six years I've gained ten. But since my surgery I've gained five more but want to loose ten total. Never had a gut before, now I do, it's strange lol.

[Vegas69]

Test Results:

Good:
BP: 110/68
BPM: 52-60 resting
Cholesterol: 134

Bad:
HDL: 36 (Range 40-199)
B12: 326 (Range 200-1100 US 550-1100 Japan/European)


HDL: I eat fish twice a week and have a very good diet. My doctor has recommended 2 fish oil pills per day.

The B12 is a big deal. I am B12 deficient. Anthing under 400 causes tiredness, depression, memory issues, and the list goes on forever. In fact, in Japan and many European countries the minimum is 550. Anything under 550 they start injections and supplements. This really explains why I've felt so tired on and off in my life. Especially now that my diet and excercise program has been so great. I started taking a B12 supplement this morning and am being retested in February to make sure it's well above the 400. From my brief research, my body is not absorbing B12 as it should, regardless of diet. A multi vitamin simply isn't enough. It is hereditary and I have suspicion that many of my family members may have the same issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12_deficiency
http://chriskresser.com/b12-deficiency-a-silent-epidemic-with-serious-consequences

The lesson to be learned is no matter how well you eat or how much you excercise, it may not be enough. Do yourself a favor and go see a great doctor and have them test you from A to Z. I've been to see doctors on and off for the last 5 years complaining of fatigue. I've had blood drawn but they never tested for B12 or they weren't aware that the US standard is extremely low. I'm extremely happy that I finally found a doctor that cared enough and had the knowledge to find the problem.

My nose x ray also came back with a deviated septum. She believes I will need surgery to fix it. I'm going to the Nose doctor in January. :thumbsup:
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[glassman]

Still looking for a good general practicing doctor. That is one of the keys.

Have to look into the B12 thing, I've heard nothing but good about all vitamin B's.

I too have a deviated septum, 10% breathing capacity through the nose. But surgery is basically a hammer and chisel above and behind the nose socket, I just can't psychologically get past that, yet I've watched surgery performed on me twice and have purposely drilled through my finger nail to get to and clean out an infection. But the hammer and chisel, ewe...

[Vegas69]

It's been approx. 6 months since I started down this road to a healthier lifestyle. I weighed in at 169.4 lbs this morning. I don't recall being this light but maybe once since my Junior year in high school.

The consistency of my excercise program and diet has my metabolism in high gear. I'm talking consistency like the sun rising here.... I'm eating 6-7 times a day. Of course my snacks are almost always fruit, veggies, nuts, or yogurt. I drink beer on Friday/Saturday nights and eat Pizaa 1-2 times a week. Usually with whole grain crust. I have greek yogurt and granola nearly every night. What I'm trying to say is I'm eating a good amount of food and maintaining my weight.

Tracking your diet is crucial to begin with. You must educate yourself on calorie intake and the make up of foods. You also need to determine at what daily calorie intake you can lose a reasonable amount of weight. The goal here is of course to lose the weight, but you also need the skill to keep it off for life and that's through education. I'm on my 3rd health and nutrition book in 6 months. Skip the fad diets that rob your body of the nutrients it needs. Skipping meals and starving yourself are the worst thing you can do. Find a diet you can stick to for life that works for you body.

You must find a work out program you can stick to religously. Going to the gym for an hour and a half 6 days a week or running 5 miles a day isn't it for 99% of us. You WILL QUIT. My workouts for 6 months are only a half hour. I either run for 30 minutes or do high intensity weights. Now, I run a pretty good pace and burn nearly 500 calories and usually do a dozen excercises with sets of 3 in those 30 minutes. You have to make the time count.

It's really not that difficult if you want it bad enough. It does take time as it won't happen overnight. The more out of shape you are, the longer it will take to achieve your ideal weight. Like I was telling my broker yesterday, it's like building a business, you wouldn't open the doors and give up after 2 weeks. You must put the time and effort into the change. It's just like compound interest, the longer you stay consistent, the greater benefit you will begin to see.

Lastly, don't discount finding a great doctor. Get your butt in and get a physical including an extensive blood profile. I've found that regardless of diet, my body doesn't absorb enough B12 and I still struggle with low HDL. You may need to supplement to complete the puzzle.

"If you wish to find, you must search. Rarely does a good idea interrupt you"
-Jim Rohn

[98ssnova]

Man good thread I havent looked at the off topic Forum in awhile. Good thread Todd. I have been woking out with a new outlook that weights are not always the answer but I do still use them but I have been using natural body weight and running to work out. Also if you are getting burnt out on running try short sprints with exercises in between. I will try to post what I have been doing pretty good has alot of pre and post stretches in it. Anways subscribed and looking forward to everybodys input.:lateral:

[Vegas69]

Nice to have somebody interested, all these other old farts either died or fell off the wagon. :unibrow:

[skatinjay27]

lol^^^^
i been having a hard time keeping up on my exercise and nutrition this past months due to my transition into this new job but the good news is that i haven't gained any weight during this slacker month;) still at 180.
also i took about a 1.5 week break from running and after i went back to it i was able to run a lil over a full mile without stopping to walk! then 2 days later i was able to go even longer:D now its my legs that a quitting on me and not my lungs. maybe its the weather?

[hifi875]

Still putting about 30miles a week in running, but added speedwork at a local track. 4x400m,4x200m,4x100m w very little rest in between and at 5k or faster pace. Along with the stadium runs (steps) I am working a lot harder can tell a difference in my body. Still getting in 2-3 days of lifting too. Do all of my running at 5:00am and done by 6(except for my long run on sat/Sunday). Will start training for my next marathon at end of the month

[Vegas69]

Interesting, I have been reading "The Competitive Runner's Handbook" recently. I'm 100 pages into 600 and have changed up my running as of last week. I've been running almost a year now and really have been doing the same thing over and over.

As of last week, I've decided to add speed training and slowly increase my distance. This book claims you want to establish a "BASE" pace that is roughly 1:45 off your desired race pace. That's roughly 9:15 for me. This is the pace you run to build your aerobic capacity at race distance or preferrably longer unless you are running long distance like a half to marathon. It slowly increases your aerobic ability which is how efficiently your body supplies oxegyn to your muscles. It also trains your slow twitch muscle fibers and ultimately how fast you get into anaroebic.

Speaking of aneroebic. That's exactly what the speed training works on improving. On my first speed run last week, I ran two .5 miles of the 3.xx at 7.5-8 mph and then backed it way down until I recovered and ran at close to base pace until my next speed run. These speed runs increase your aneroebic capacity which equate into how long you can perform while your muscles aren't obtaining enough oxegyn. That's where the pain and will come into play. They are called speed runs for a reason, they help train your high twitch fibers in your muscles and improve your speed. Ultimately, when you race or run faster than your base pace, you get into some degree of aneroebic. It reflects in how long you can run at higher speeds and endure the pain.

He claims that you don't want to run at race pace/distance or close to it very often as it will wear you out and make you prone to injury. Basically, save it for race day and very few times inbetween. Right now my plan is to slowly work up to 5-6 miles aerobically with speed runs every week and run another 5k to see how fast I can go. I'm shooting for 7:30 pace.

[hifi875]

The speedwork is really helping me. between speedwork and hills and steps, then a couple of normal runs at race pace and a long run at 1 min or so slower than race pace gives you a good mix so you don't get bored doing the same old stuff. I've been doing the speedwork for a month now and the stamina has definitely picked up. vary your speedwork also. do some at 10k goal pace and some at 5k goal pace. My weight has dropped also. i usually weigh 168-170 and now im 163-165.

[Vegas69]

I ran my first 5 miler yesterday at 9 minute pace and it felt great. :thumbsup: Tomorrow I'm going to speed train hills. I'm lucky to live in a location where I have access to some really good running with trails, hills, and fairly level ground. The more I read, the more I realize how it's benefited me to practice my up and down hill running.

Let's talk about the types of FAT in food.....

Saturated Fat:
Red Meat, Whole Milk, Butter, Cheese, Ice Cream, Coconut Milk......etc..

Raises bad and good cholesterol

Polyunsaturated Fat:
Fish and the following oils: Corn, Soybean, Safflower, Cottonseed

Lowers bad cholesterol and raises good

Monounsaturated Fat:
Most Nuts, Avocados, Olive Oil, Olives, Canola and Peanut Oil

Lowers bad cholesterol and raises good

Trans Fat:
Most Fried Food, Most Margerine, Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oils, Most Commercially Baked Goods

Raises bad cholesterol and lower good
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Fat is an important ingredient in your diet. The key is to eat the "Right" fats. A diet rich in Saturated or Trans fats increases your chances of heart disease substantially. While a diet rich in Polyunsaturated or Monounsaturated has the opposite effect.

I'm not saying to cut all the saturated fat out of your diet, just pull back on the reigns and eat it in moderation. Substitute some wild salmon for a steak or some Almonds instead of potato chips. Dip your bread in olive oil and balsamic vinegar instead of butter or even worse, the fake butters that are full of trans fat.

Look at the labels. It's all there for you, you just have to educate yourself. It's your health and life.

I just finished this book and highly recommend it: http://www.amazon.com/Eat-Drink-Be-Healthy-Harvard/dp/0743266420/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356502648&sr=8-1&keywords=eat+drink+and+be+healthy

[hifi875]

Also go to a stadium with a lot of steps and go up and down and when you get to the bottom do 15-20 pushups. Work your way from one End to the other and back. That really helps your quads and it hurts too.

[Vegas69]

Having new years resolutions is really a round about way of setting goals. The difference is that most start the year with good intentions but fail to act. Real goals or resolutions must be written down in a place where you will review them on a regular basis. To take it one step futher. Every goal should be followed with a plan for achievement.

For instance: Your goal is to Lose 10 lbs

Track my diet by writing down everything I eat daily (Educates you on calorie and nutritional content)
Work out a minimum of 4 days a week for 30 minutes
Read a book about nutrition
Exchange soda for water


To have more, we must first become more. -Jim Rohn

[Vegas69]

Negativity is NORMAL. In your lifetime, you will never escape mental negativity from your past or present. You will NEVER escape all the negative influences in your life depsite your efforts. It really comes down to controlling how you think which ultimately is the end effect it has on your life.

One of the best ways to fight back is simply with positive influences and limiting your negative influences.

Negative:
Watching ANY news program
Your debbie downer friend
That guy at work with a bad attitude

Positive:
Starting your day with an inspirational book
Quality time with your kids or spouse
Educational CD's in your car
Calling the RIGHT friend

Which leads me to my next thought: Associations

You must look at the people around you in life and ask yourself? What are they doing to me?

If they are a great friend but a debbie downer, you may need to limit your association.

If their is not one positive reason to keep that person as a friend, you may need to disassociate.

If you have made a new friendship with someone of positive influence, you may choose to increase your time and association.

[Vegas69]

Balance

A continual challenge in life to find the right ingredients. The need to continually adapt to keep things interesting when your taste and ideals change. As you become more educated and experienced. With wisdom comes baggage and greater expectations for the game of life.

Balance in life is determined by so many variables. Family, Work, Health, Diet, Relationships, Spiritual, Benevolence, Interests to name a few.

2012 was the year of change for me. It's the year I started working hard on personal development, my philosophy, my attitude, my relationships, my knowledge, my finances, my health, my diet, and the list goes on.

I was able to change the direction of my life. As Jim Rohn would say, the set of my sail.

I started with my health. I went from 195lbs at the beginning of 2012 to 169lbs at the end of 2012. Forming the new GOOD habits consistently working out 4-6 days a week for only 1/2 hour a day. Easily the best shape of my life.

My nutrition completely changed. I went from 40-50 beers some weeks, fried food, on down the line to a diet from the old school. (What really works) Fruits and Veggies, Nuts, Lean Meats, Whole Grains, Greek Yogurt, Low to Non Fat Dairy A metabolism that is in high gear.

I purchased two investment properties and paid off my daily driver. I made some other smart financial choices and increased my yearly net sheet by over $28,000!

I worked constantly on personal development through education. Specifically, educating myself for an hour most days through CD's in my car to reading a good book in the morning and almost every night before bed. I read more books last year than I've read cumulative since graduating from high school.

I volunteered for the big brothers/big sisters program. I formed a very solid and positive relationship menoring an 8 year old boy in down town Las Vegas.

I improved my attitude and outlook on life by controlling my influences, forming new friendships, adding knowledge and tools to my life.

Clearly, all these changes made me a better spouse, better team leader, and a better friend.

At the end of 2012, I sat down with a good friend and we reflected on the year. That's some big swings at life in one year. Some HUGE changes. It wasn't always easy. Reflecting on it was a crucial step in the process. To look back at all the hard work and learn from it. I found that through all my changes, I had lifted my foot off the business gas in pursuit of my personal development. I had neglected to put 100% effort into my business in 2012. It reflected in my attitude about my profession, negatively. The lack of effort at work was the source of my soured attitude.

My focus was simply to much on the personal side of the equation. In my normal fashion, I wanted big changes, NOW. I had goals and I was going to make it happen! I hadn't realized how little effort I was putting into work in pursuit of my new ideals.

In 2013 I'm going to continue to work on personal development and all my other good habits. However, my foot is back on the business gas to bring the balance back closer to that perfect recipe. One of the changes I've made is moving my workouts until after work. Reserving that morning energy for the office and getting an earlier start.

One of the things I've learned from this whole process is to have an accountability partner or two. Someone that you can set down with and can look at your life from the outside looking in and give you a different perspective. I've scheduled a lunch with my buddy every month. I've started keeping a business journal to keep myself accountable.

I don't personally feel it's possible to ever perfect life and it's balance. I do think it's crucial to continue learning, changing, improving through personal development. Be a scholar of your own life.

[Tony_SS]

A diet rich in Saturated or Trans fats increases your chances of heart disease substantially.

Sorry Todd that is wrong to group the two. Trans fat is a horrible laboratory concoction that should be avoided at ALL costs.

Saturated fats do NOT increase any risk of heart disease. Transfats, canola oils, margarine.. all that junk does. Saturated fats are the best for you out of all the fats, in organic eggs, butter from grass fed cow. Raw milk from grass fed cows, and from animal fats.

Todd, check out Nourishing Traditions if you want the know what is truely good for you. Most of the stuff you got it right, but your body needs saturated fat like an engine needs oil. There is a LOT of 'unlearning' that needs to be done about these topics.

http://www.amazon.com/Nourishing-Traditions-Challenges-Politically-Dictocrats/dp/0967089735

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Progress report, lately I'm feeling like a nascar who doesnt need pit stops. I've cut out a LOT of ALL grains and sugar in my diet. I'm eating meats, eggs, fish, vegetables butter and dairy with a little bit of grains.. not much. I think my steady increase in consuming Raw milk has made the biggest change in my health. It is truly a super food. I am hoping that is cures my allergies this spring too. We will see.

Our challenge today is finding REAL food that is not toxic. You want it Raw and you'll feel like a million bucks. My belt is 2 notches smaller since Christmas.. I don't get much exercise either.. just normal activity.

Everyone, please watch and give me your feedback... wheat is in 'everything'

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[Tony_SS]

For the runners here.... some interesting information...

http://lewrockwell.com/mercola/mercola253.html

[Vegas69]

Tony, I'm not disputing that saturated fat in moderation is good for you. You can feel great and be on the road to bad future health. People smoke and feel great, they eat fast food and feel great, they drink to much and feel great...... I'd like to see your cholesterol levels living by your ideals?

I can't agree with you that it's better for you than olive oil or Omega 3 fish oil. These fats increase good cholesterol and decrease bad.

I prefer to take my information from studies vs. one doctors opinion. That's why I like the nutrition book I reference written by a Harvard professor. It's based on long term studies.

[Vegas69]

For the runners here.... some interesting information...

http://lewrockwell.com/mercola/mercola253.html

Tony, we finally agree. :cheers: This logic makes alot of sense to me. It's like pretty much anything in life, you can overdo it.

[Tony_SS]

Tony, I'm not disputing that saturated fat in moderation is good for you. You can feel great and be on the road to bad future health. People smoke and feel great, they eat fast food and feel great, they drink to much and feel great...... I'd like to see your cholesterol levels living by your ideals?

I can't agree with you that it's better for you than olive oil or Omega 3 fish oil. These fats increase good cholesterol and decrease bad.

I prefer to take my information from studies vs. one doctors opinion. That's why I like the nutrition book I reference written by a Harvard professor. It's based on long term studies.

Todd, a lot of the establishment academia and long term 'studies' are heavily influenced by the food processing industry.

If you don't want to buy the book I linked, please read the intro pages free on Amazon.

I agree olive oil is outstanding and so is Omega 3, but there's more to it. Store bought fish isn't complete, as are store bought eggs, etc. They're simply over processed for profits. Not bad for you, but not near as good and they can be.

As for my cholesterol, I don't know and I'm not worried about it really. The brain is 77% cholesterol. Your body needs it and actually produces it. The body is an amazing machine.. it will self balance your pH, but if you put junk in, it has to work overtime to do that, and a constant break down and regeneration of cells is not a good thing. I try to eat clean as possible and let my body do the rest.

What did you think of that wheat video? As they say... were not in Kansas anymore.

[XLexusTech]

Realizing that I am asking for opinions here not facts.. May I ask a question.
Last year over the course of 10 months give or take I lost 100 pounds...
By simply eating better foods and exercising more.. Pretty strait forward approach.. (i can share the details for those interested.. but this was not a "diet" or a method.. just strait forward put in good stuff.. and have an calorie deficit at the end of each day/week.

Now here is the question... How the heck can the body.. put on 50/60 % of that in a month? This is what happened to me as I took off for a month due to a torn calf and the holidays... Holy hell I cant believe how fast i packed it on...

Is thier somthing up with the way my body works?

[Vegas69]

Todd, a lot of the establishment academia and long term 'studies' are heavily influenced by the food processing industry.

If you don't want to buy the book I linked, please read the intro pages free on Amazon.

I agree olive oil is outstanding and so is Omega 3, but there's more to it. Store bought fish isn't complete, as are store bought eggs, etc. They're simply over processed for profits. Not bad for you, but not near as good and they can be.

As for my cholesterol, I don't know and I'm not worried about it really. The brain is 77% cholesterol. Your body needs it and actually produces it. The body is an amazing machine.. it will self balance your pH, but if you put junk in, it has to work overtime to do that, and a constant break down and regeneration of cells is not a good thing. I try to eat clean as possible and let my body do the rest.

What did you think of that wheat video? As they say... were not in Kansas anymore.

To be honest, it just doesn't make sense to me. It goes back to my previous post about balance. Your diet needs it as well. For instance, did you know that to much calcium has been linked to prostate cancer?

I eat steak, butter, and milk products, in moderation.

I'm not sure what to think about the wheat video. I have trouble believing one doctors opinion. There are to many motivating factors to go against the grain so to speak. :D

Realizing that I am asking for opinions here not facts.. May I ask a question.
Last year over the course of 10 months give or take I lost 100 pounds...
By simply eating better foods and exercising more.. Pretty strait forward approach.. (i can share the details for those interested.. but this was not a "diet" or a method.. just strait forward put in good stuff.. and have an calorie deficit at the end of each day/week.

Now here is the question... How the heck can the body.. put on 50/60 % of that in a month? This is what happened to me as I took off for a month due to a torn calf and the holidays... Holy hell I cant believe how fast i packed it on...

Is thier somthing up with the way my body works?

Your habits changed. Did you change your calorie intake? Packing on 50-60 lbs in one month is hard to believe. You must have a snail pace metabolism. I'd get to the doctor and have a full blood profile done including your Thyroid.

[XLexusTech]

Your habits changed. Did you change your calorie intake? Packing on 50-60 lbs in one month is hard to believe. You must have a snail pace metabolism. I'd get to the doctor and have a full blood profile done including your Thyroid.

Yes.. i went from running /20 + miles a week and eating 2400-2800 calories of whole foods spread accross 5 meals to running 0 miles drinking LOTS of beer and eating crap..

My wife actually suggested the same regarding the Thyroid because she also cannot make heads or tails of a rapid gain like that... for me its what I have experienced my whole life so it doesn't seem weird..

I expected 20 maybe 30... but I am tipping 270 from 219 (orig weight 350)

[Tony_SS]

To be honest, it just doesn't make sense to me. It goes back to my previous post about balance. Your diet needs it as well. For instance, did you know that to much calcium has been linked to prostate cancer?

I eat steak, butter, and milk products, in moderation.

I'm not sure what to think about the wheat video. I have trouble believing one doctors opinion. There are to many motivating factors to go against the grain so to speak. :D

But you'll believe one teacher from Harvard? ;) I would do the research. That guy is right. Wheat is a huge industry, its not wheat anymore, it's GMO and its more like an addictive drug now. Why not? It's about profit with the industries.

2yrs ago I went on a heavy wheat/fiber diet.. I was crapping blood. I don't eat shredded wheat and anything 'high fiber'. My fiber now comes from fruit and vegetables.

Store milk isn't that good for you, and actually it grosses me out since I've been drinking raw milk. I don't like the idea of my milk being boiled and killed, all the good enzymes are eliminated. Plus, milk from a factory cow pumped with vacinees and antibiotics is not good for you. And store butter is made from that...

Read that book into... the pieces all come together and it makes perfect sense. Humanity didn't always have these high rates of heart disease and cancer... this is all a result of toxic food and a bad diet (pro whole grain, low fat) that's pushed by the establishment.

[Vegas69]

Yes.. i went from running /20 + miles a week and eating 2400-2800 calories of whole foods spread accross 5 meals to running 0 miles drinking LOTS of beer and eating crap..

My wife actually suggested the same regarding the Thyroid because she also cannot make heads or tails of a rapid gain like that... for me its what I have experienced my whole life so it doesn't seem weird..

I expected 20 maybe 30... but I am tipping 270 from 219 (orig weight 350)

You proved you could lose the weight with good habits so it may just be that your calorie intake is way to high. If you were eating 2800 calories on a diet, what are you eating and drinking now? 5000?

Do yourself a favor and find some middle ground. Running 20 miles a week for most is just unrealistic. You did exactly what I've been talking about in this thread from day one, you were on an excercise program that is unrealistc and that means you'll never stick with it.

Start tracking your diet through myfitness pal or an old fashioned notebook and get back to excercising 3-4 days a week for a half hour only.

I'd still get a full blood work analysis including thyroid, B and D vitamins.

But you'll believe one teacher from Harvard? ;) I would do the research. That guy is right. Wheat is a huge industry, its not wheat anymore, it's GMO and its more like an addictive drug now. Why not? It's about profit with the industries.

2yrs ago I went on a heavy wheat/fiber diet.. I was crapping blood. I don't eat shredded wheat and anything 'high fiber'. My fiber now comes from fruit and vegetables.

Store milk isn't that good for you, and actually it grosses me out since I've been drinking raw milk. I don't like the idea of my milk being boiled and killed, all the good enzymes are eliminated. Plus, milk from a factory cow pumped with vacinees and antibiotics is not good for you. And store butter is made from that...

Read that book into... the pieces all come together and it makes perfect sense. Humanity didn't always have these high rates of heart disease and cancer... this is all a result of toxic food and a bad diet (pro whole grain, low fat) that's pushed by the establishment.

I did read some of her book online and she makes some great points. I completely agree with her ideals on a low fat diet. Fat in foods doesn't make you gain weight and is essential for you cells and countless other functions. Now, I'm not going to start eating red meat 7 days a week and having butter on my toast all the time, or drinking whole milk with breakfast everyday. I prefer to eat these things in moderation and get healthy fats from nuts, avocados, Pacific Wild Salmon, and olive oil.

Where you source your food is also crucial. It's a dirty world out there and most food companies care about one thing, $. That's why I'm continually studying ingredients and labels.


The bottom line is that it's mans hands that has done the most damage. Engineering processed foods to sit on a shelf for 5 years with every additive known to man. High fructose corn syrup which has contributed to obesity. Trans fats that are in most fried food and products like margerine and crisco are horrible! They raise cholesterol sky high and that's one of the reasons I'm not sold on your book.

I personally live by Jack Lalanne's ideals. He lived to be 97 years old and was full of piss and vinegar. That's a track record! Lot's of fruits and vegetables(unlimited), whole nuts, Wild Ocean Fish(Salmon, Tuna, others) low fat or non fat cottage cheese/Greek Yogurt, whole grains, mostly lean meats, and limited red meats. Good foods make it easy to read the labels. If it's processed, I avoid it at all costs. For instance, my peanut butter. (Peanuts, Water) It's really the foundation and the basics of nutrition that has never and will never change. It's like most things in life, people make it to damn complicated.

I prefer a balanced diet over a diet high in saturated fat. She could be right, she could be wrong. I'll live by Jack's advice.

[transam]

Realizing that I am asking for opinions here not facts.. May I ask a question.
Last year over the course of 10 months give or take I lost 100 pounds...
By simply eating better foods and exercising more.. Pretty strait forward approach.. (i can share the details for those interested.. but this was not a "diet" or a method.. just strait forward put in good stuff.. and have an calorie deficit at the end of each day/week.

Now here is the question... How the heck can the body.. put on 50/60 % of that in a month? This is what happened to me as I took off for a month due to a torn calf and the holidays... Holy hell I cant believe how fast i packed it on...

Is thier somthing up with the way my body works?


Its almost impossible to have that much weight gain that rapid by just letting your eating habits slip over a month. i suspect you might not be monitering your weight and caloric intake and might have the time frame of the weight gain wrong? For me food was an addiction so to this day i still log my weight daily along with EVERYTHING i eat and its calories and protein just so i dont slip up and i can catch any unwanted gains. Usually you see rapid weight gain in a crash diet because your metabolism will slow down so when you start eating poorly the body turns the calories into fat. If you feel like these do not apply to you i would consult a physician to make sure everything checks out. I have lost 70lbs since last january so i can relate to what you did,went from 290 to 217.

[Tony_SS]

I did read some of her book online and she makes some great points. I completely agree with her ideals on a low fat diet. Fat in foods doesn't make you gain weight and is essential for you cells and countless other functions. Now, I'm not going to start eating red meat 7 days a week and having butter on my toast all the time, or drinking whole milk with breakfast everyday. I prefer to eat these things in moderation and get healthy fats from nuts, avocados, Pacific Wild Salmon, and olive oil.

Where you source your food is also crucial. It's a dirty world out there and most food companies care about one thing, $. That's why I'm continually studying ingredients and labels.


The bottom line is that it's mans hands that has done the most damage. Engineering processed foods to sit on a shelf for 5 years with every additive known to man. High fructose corn syrup which has contributed to obesity. Trans fats that are in most fried food and products like margerine and crisco are horrible! They raise cholesterol sky high and that's one of the reasons I'm not sold on your book.

I personally live by Jack Lalanne's ideals. He lived to be 97 years old and was full of piss and vinegar. That's a track record! Lot's of fruits and vegetables(unlimited), whole nuts, Wild Ocean Fish(Salmon, Tuna, others) low fat or non fat cottage cheese/Greek Yogurt, whole grains, mostly lean meats, and limited red meats. Good foods make it easy to read the labels. If it's processed, I avoid it at all costs. For instance, my peanut butter. (Peanuts, Water) It's really the foundation and the basics of nutrition that has never and will never change. It's like most things in life, people make it to damn complicated.

I prefer a balanced diet over a diet high in saturated fat. She could be right, she could be wrong. I'll live by Jack's advice.

:thumbsup: Sounds like we agree more than we disagree... however, its not that margarine raises cholesterol, its that is basically destroys your cells leading to heart disease. It's no coincidence that rise is margarine/crisco products correlates with a rise in heart disease. And what does the establishment blame? Butter! They are either ignorant or flat out lying to everyone.

And yes it really is very simple. Our ancestors were very healthy, their diet was raw milk, butter, animal fats, fruits and vegetables. It's on since our modern western processed diet has our health gone to crap.

:cheers:

I would try it though! Add on the butter, eat those eggs. Dont hold back.. if you gain wait, then come back and tell me I'm wrong. To this date.. I've been doing it and have lost 5lbs! That's because processed grains and sugar and not in my diet.

[Vegas69]

Tony, margerine can be full of trans fats due to the hydrogenation that turns the vegetable oil into a solid. It changes the molecules. That's how trans fats are made. My Harvard book said the same thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine

I'm not worried about the weight gain. I struggle keeping the weight on at this point. Now at over 6 months of consistency in my diet and excercise, my metabolism is off the charts. My pallet has changed. I grew up in Iowa so naturally, the midwestern diet was in my blood. Today, I really prefer Salmon and a really good salad(7-10 veggies) over a steak and baked potato. Polish dinner off with a papaya and some blueberries. :D

That being said, I still crave a hamburger or steak. With my B12 deficiency, it's important for a balanced diet anyway. Since B12 is stored for 2-5 years in the liver, I can't blame my recent nutrition since I've always ate plenty of red meat.