1969 Camaro Restored Pro Touring Shell

[talwell]

1969 Camaro - Pro Touring Project Shell
DSE Mini Tubes
Shaved Drip Rail & Custom Molded Rear Spoiler
Relocated Rear Leaf Springs
Black w. Graphite Stripes
Smoothed Firewall

Body was fully restored prior to being sent to body shop for final fit and paint. Unfortunately the shop that painted the car did not give me the $10k paint job that I paid for. The gaps need adjustment, paint needs final wet sanding and removal of runs in clear. Stripes are under clear but were not masked perfectly. There are flaws in the stripes as well as some flaws in the paint. Could easily be stripped down and repainted to have a great shell.

Body would be great for pro touring or build into a race car. Although it was fully painted it did not come out high quality and therefore I have chosen to build another car for my 427 LSx Twin Turbo setup. Body does not have any rust or rot, all metal work appears to have been done nicely and could be built as it is or repainted if desired.

VIN for the car has disappeared - the hidden vins are still on the body but I do not have a title for it. Could use as a donor body or use title service to obtain replacement title. If it is built into race car a title would not be needed. I will supply a bill of sale for the car and when I had the hidden vin run it did not come back as stolen or any other problem.

Car is located in Schaumburg, Il. Will sell as a roller with steel wheels and stock subframe and 10 bolt. Wheels shown in pictures are not included.

Asking $10,500.00 for the shell. PM me if you are interested or have any questions.

[John510]

no vin or title? :_paranoid

[talwell]

no vin or title? :_paranoid

VIN is on the body - both hidden vins are still on it. The VIN plate is missing from the dash. This disappeared at one of the body shops the car was at.

I had the hidden VINs run and came back clean without issues. Could be used as a donor shell or apply for new title from title service. If used for offroad race car a vin would not be needed.

[Rick D]

Just wondering how do you have a vin run when you don't have the whole vin? The hidden vin is only the last part of the number. Plus in the state of IL you need to have a title to sell a car, also if the secretary of state police see that the vin has been removed then they would impound the car, ask me how I know this. And before everyone jumps on me I am only talking about in IL, I do not know what the laws are in other states but I know for sure in IL. If I were you I would make sure I have the bill of sale from from who I bought the car and then you can have the Secretary of State Police inspect the car and issue an new vin for it. Again ask me how I know :_paranoid . Not trying to be a d!ck just trying to NOT see someone else have to go through what I did. Good luck with the sale. Also where in Schaumburg? I'm over there all the time.

[214Chevy]

no vin or title? :_paranoid

Hahahahahaaaa....you sooooo crraaaazzzyy!!!:willy: :willy:

[talwell]

I am from NY - the car is just in storage in Il. I am aware that you guys have some very strict laws in Il.

I know that the hidden vins are just partial - we ran both the 123 and the 124 version of the hidden vin and they both came back clear.

For anyone that bought the car - it is probably easiest to get a new vin and title issued. We have some bodies restored in Washington and there the process is simple and very fast. Alot of states the process is very fast - after an short inspection they issue a new vin number and title. Most title services could also get a replacement for the car as well.

[awr68]

Where are the hidden VIN's located?

[dhutton]

Where are the hidden VIN's located?

One is under the heater core cover and another is under the cowl vent panel.

Don

[Rick D]

Where are the hidden VIN's located?

One is under the heater core cover and another is under the cowl vent panel.

Don

Yah the one under the heater core is under the blower motor hole.

[awr68]

Yah the one under the heater core is under the blower motor hole.

Interesting! Have to take a look on my car!

[talwell]

Updated Price - Lowered To $10,500.00.

[732ndgen]

I take it this is not that great of a buy ,,,without the Vin

[John510]

Im confused. So say someone stole a car and removed the vin. Since you don't have the full vin only the partial vin what would keep thieves from doing this to classic cars? Its not that easy to just walk into the DMV and have a car with no vin or title and have them give you a title and vin.

If its that easy then Id suggest get a new vin and title THEN sell your car. Otherwise Id say moderator LOCK this thread before a fellow member gets stuck in this guys mess. Sounds to me like you are NOT able to register it that is why you are selling it. The "paint isn't good enough" is sort of lame excuse especially when it will be WAY cheaper to repaint a car then to start all over on a new body.

[talwell]

Im confused. So say someone stole a car and removed the vin. Since you don't have the full vin only the partial vin what would keep thieves from doing this to classic cars? Its not that easy to just walk into the DMV and have a car with no vin or title and have them give you a title and vin.

If its that easy then Id suggest get a new vin and title THEN sell your car. Otherwise Id say moderator LOCK this thread before a fellow member gets stuck in this guys mess. Sounds to me like you are NOT able to register it that is why you are selling it. The "paint isn't good enough" is sort of lame excuse especially when it will be WAY cheaper to repaint a car then to start all over on a new body.

You are wrong in your assumptions of me and why I am selling the car.

I will admit that in some states the process to be assigned a new VIN is very difficult and in others not very difficult at all. We have restoration shop in Washington state and I know we do not have much difficulty being assigned new vins in that state.

As for why I am selling it - possibly you are not aware of the downfalls of having OCD. Unfortunately although it can be a good thing at times, at other times it can cause great difficulties. For me, when building these cars the slightest imperfections weigh very heavily on me and when something is far from perfect for me it is easy to just start all over. I have long ago purchased another shell and am very far along in building it for my twin turbo car so this car is no longer needed.

I have never attempted to register the car and I dont appreciate your suggestion that this thread get locked based on what is your opinions only. I have been very honest about the car and I have even suggested that one of the good routes to take would be to use the car as an offroad race car. Please dont make incorrect assumptions and make people think that I have not been honest in my asertions. I am an honest person and have no intention to try to be any less just to sell a car that has not gone the way I wanted it to.

If anyone has any questions please PM me - do not take what others that are misinformed have to say as being truthful.

[camaro73]

If the car was registered in your name you should apply for a lost title? This would clear up any issues and you will be able to sell with no questions asked

[talwell]

Car Sold - Thank You Lateral-G.