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gearheads78
02-03-2011, 02:58 PM
I was always skeptical of the concept of drive by wire but now I am sure I would not do it. There are 4 trucks/suvs in my shop right now in rent cars and might be for weeks because of failed GM throttle bodies and the parts are over 9000 units back ordered. These pieces of crap are leaving my customers stranded right and left going into reduced power mode.

Sieg
02-03-2011, 03:03 PM
What years?

My '05 Toyota Tundra hasn't been an issue, well not until you brought it up anyway. :D

XcYZ
02-03-2011, 03:04 PM
Well, if I was using a Toyota TBW, I'd be scared of it sticking WOT. lol

Zero issues with my TBW setup, no regrets. :cheers:

gearheads78
02-03-2011, 03:32 PM
I see it with all GM trucks and SUVs but the ones that are leaving customers in rent cars for weeks waiting on parts are 07-10's. Mark my words with in 6 months some major news organization is going to do a show on this. Too many soccer moms getting scared to death loosing power while flying down the tollway.

CreepinDeth
02-05-2011, 10:13 PM
Interesting.

I never understood why they call it DBW if it's computer controlled either. :question:
Very confusing. It should be called Drive by Computer.

I've never been a fan of a computer controlling my throttle either.
That's the big downside of upgrading to a newer LS motor.

gearheads78
02-05-2011, 10:22 PM
Looks like its a really bad cold weather problem. I've added 4 more to the parts waiting list in the last couple of days. I was getting about 1-2 a week. This last week in the 20 degree and below weather we have had about 2 a day.

RickM415
02-07-2011, 10:20 PM
just like everything ,nothing is perfect ,but for the most part things happen to work lol , I seen acouple of those reduced power vehicles ,but its not a reason to not use it ,you could count the number of people who had their cables snapped on conventional gas pedals too ....that reminds me of "....if you eat this...you`ll get cancer...blah blah"

XcYZ
02-08-2011, 05:10 AM
Looks like its a really bad cold weather problem. I've added 4 more to the parts waiting list in the last couple of days. I was getting about 1-2 a week. This last week in the 20 degree and below weather we have had about 2 a day.

-27 here last week and no issues.

Edit, here's a pic I took last January. :willy: No problems with DBW. :thumbsup:

James OLC
02-08-2011, 06:57 AM
It's not a "cold weather" problem - probably more of a poor maintenance issue if anything. Although it may be cold in Dallas, a large part of the rest of the world has experienced temperatures colder than that annually for as long DBW systems have been used.

ironworks
02-08-2011, 07:05 AM
I think I will skip driving my camaro in the cold today. It's only supposed to be 56 for a high. BBBBUUUUURRRRRRR

James OLC
02-08-2011, 08:54 AM
That sounds awful Rodger - I hope you guys can cope. But I think you should be OK on the DBW front - although you might want to park the '67 "just in case" until you put some windows in it.

I think the coldest morning here around so far this year was about -49°F (although it's only 0ish this morning). An informal check (looking out my window) shows a couple of thousand DBW trucks in traffic - all moving.

gearheads78
02-08-2011, 06:12 PM
The more I think about it I don't think its a DBW problem its a part design problem. I am not seeing it with Camaro's or Corvettes only trucks and SUVs. We had two more in today. GM now has over 11,000 on back order and are telling us they can't even promise we will have parts in Feb. The best part since the Super Bowl and ice storm last week you can't get a rent car at all today. My enterprise office is 20 cars back logged. It was such a fun conversation telling a lady I have no idea when here 19K mile 09 Tahoe will be fixed and and can't even get her a car to drive in the mean time for the next day or two. :mad:

Stuart Adams
02-08-2011, 06:21 PM
-27 here last week and no issues.

Edit, here's a pic I took last January. :willy: No problems with DBW. :thumbsup:

At least you were headed in the right direction!!

Wow that is crazy cold.