Gooseneck trailer tips

[GregWeld]

I'm working on ordering a new trailer. This time around I'm going to finally actually order a trailer that will make use of my F-350 Dually.

I'd really like to get this RIGHT - the first time... so I'm looking for your help on pluses and minuses -- things you'd never do - and things you wish (unlimited check book items) that you had.

Trailer is ATC 40' - with 14' living qtrs... triple axles (spread axles) - all black - .050 rivetless skin... gooseneck.

I'm looking for ANY ideas - brakes - landing gear dos and don't - interior ideas - bigger liv qtrs - smaller? Built ins?
if you hate having a bigger trailer because it became a PITA - or do you wish you'd have gone a bit bigger?

Totally open discussion.

[fletcherscustoms]

I've owned 4 different trailers over the years here are some tips!!

-Electric landing gear
-In floor mounted winch for retrieving non running cars
-add 6" raised interior height
-Torsion axles
-do not get vynl flooring
-LED lights were possible
-exterior mounted work lights
-pre wired for electrical, generator, ac, etc

[96z28ss]

Stop playing!
Renegage motor coach with Garage.

[GregWeld]

I've owned 4 different trailers over the years here are some tips!!

-Electric landing gear
-In floor mounted winch for retrieving non running cars
-add 6" raised interior height
-Torsion axles
-do not get vynl flooring
-LED lights were possible
-exterior mounted work lights
-pre wired for electrical, generator, ac, etc



Got all of that --- not prewired - got A/C, Heat, genset included. And LED/low voltage hi intensity lights. Also have Prosine 2000w INVERTER so I can make coffee -- run microwave without starting genset. (Old boater... so those things I totally get!)

Torsion axles -- doing triples. Spread axles - think that's more for looks??

Why not vinyl?? Was doing "coin floor". I don't have leakers.

Has infloor winch system.

Maybe I should post up the 'quote'?

[GregWeld]

Trailer Type: 2011 ATC Quest Gooseneck Car Hauler
Color: black
Cabinet Color: black
Axles: (2) 7000# Torsion Axles
Width: 8.5 ft
Length: 40 ft
Height: 7 ft
Model #: ATCGQST8540TA5

Standard Features:
FRAME
FULL PERIMETER ALUMINUM FRAME
ALL-TUBE CONSTRUCTION
TORSION AXLES
EZ LUBE HUBS
ELECTRIC BRAKES - ALL AXLES
GEL CELL BATTERY BREAKAWAY KIT
2-5/16" ADJUSTABLE COUPLER
SAFETY CHAINS & HOOKS
SINGLE SPEED MANUAL JACK
16" O/C FLOOR CROSSMEMBERS
16" O/C ROOF CROSSMEMBERS - 1" x 3"
16" O/C WALL SUPPORTS
48" BEAVERTAIL
SMOOTH ALUM. RADIUS WHEEL BOXES
FLAT FRONT DESIGN

INTERIOR
ADVANTECH SUB FLOOR
FLOOR COVER IS OPTIONAL
ADVANTECH RAMP
ADVANTECH TRANSITION FLAP
OPEN STUD WALLS
OPEN STUD CEILING
(4) 5000# D-RINGS
WIRE GROMMETS
(1) ROOF VENT
(3) RECESSED DOME LIGHTS

EXTERIOR
3" UPPER RUB RAIL TRIM
3" LOWER RUB RAIL TRIM
.030 ALUMINUM
COLOR COORDINATED RIVETS ON SEAMS
POLISHED FRONT VERTICALS
ONE-PIECE ALUMINUM ROOF
GRAY MOD WHEELS W/ CHROME CAP
36" SIDE DOOR - 405 SERIES
STANDARD FLUSH LOCK
REAR RAMP DOOR
GAPLESS CONTINUOUS HINGE
ALUMINUM BAR LOCKS
STAINLESS STEEL HASPS
7-WAY PLUG
ATP ENCLOSED FRONT W/ ACCESS PANEL
L.E.D. CLEARANCE LIGHTS
LT235/85R16LRG RADIAL TIRES
L.E.D. SLIM LINE BRAKE LIGHTS


Selected Options:
1 FASTLANE GOOSENECK PACKAGE
Approval #:
UPGRADE FROM 3" UPPER RUB RAIL TO 4"
UPGRADE FROM 3" LOWER RUB RAIL TO 7"
SCREWLESS EXTERIOR
POLISHED CAST CORNERS
POLSISHED VERTICALS
POLISHED TOP RADIUS
POLISHED REAR HEADER
FMVSS SIDE DOOR LOCK
BLACK COIN RUBBER FLOOR
BLACK COIN RUBBER RAMP
BLACK COIN TRANSITION FLAP
SCREWLESS ALUMINUM WALLS AND CEILING
ALUMINUM WHEELS
8' UPPER CABINET
STRAIGHT BASE CABINET
UPGRADE TO DUAL SLIMLINE LED BRAKE LIGHTS
30 AMP BREAKER BOX W/ MOTORBASE PLUG
25' SHORE CORD
(1) EXTERIOR GFI PROTECTED RECEPT
(3) INTERIOR GFI PROTECTED RECEPTS
(3) 48" RECESSED FLUORESCENT LIGHTS
(2) RECESSED EXTERIOR HALOGEN LIGHTS
BRACE AND WIRE FOR FUTURE A/C
ALUMINUM SKID PLATES
8' GRAY CARPET IN RISER
1 14' LIVING QUARTERS MODULE
Approval #:
MUST UPGRADE TO MIN 7.5' INTERIOR HEIGHT
CHOICE OF DINETTE OR SLEEPER SOFA
SLEEPER SOFA INCLUDES REMOVABLE TABLE
RSX FULL PERIMETER UPGRADE INCLUDED
RVIA SEAL INCLUDED
GENERAL
32" SIDE RV DOOR
(2) 20# LP TANKS W/REGULATOR
35,000 BTU DUCTED LP FURNACE
(2) 12V DEEP CYCLE BATTERIES
EXTERIOR BATTERY RACK
CITY WATER HOOK-UP
A/C PREP - BRACE & WIRE
36" X 24" BAGGAGE DOOR
36" X 24" VENTED DOOR
SEWER HOSE STORAGE
LP MANIFOLD W/QUICK DISCONNECT
12V LIGHTED HANDRAIL @ SIDE DOOR
12V EXTERIOR PORCH LIGHT
12V WATER PUMP W/WINTERIZING TAP - 2.8 GPM
55 AMP CONVERTER W/BATTERY CHARGER
6 GALLON WATER HEATER - DSI
(1) EXTERIOR GFI RECEPT
INTERIOR 120V RECEPTS
R66 ALUMINUM FLIP DOWN STEP @ SIDE DOOR
TRUSSED ROOF FOR DUCTED A/C
SOLID OAK CABINETRY
INSULATED WALLS & CEILING
COLOR COORDINATED EXTERIOR VENTS / DOORS
VINYL WALLBOARD & CEILING - LQ AREA ONLY
LAMINATE COUNTERS W/OAK EDGE
3/4" ADVANTECH FLOORING W/BLACK BACKER
50 AMP RV STYLE BREAKER BOX
50 AMP 50' SHORE CORD

KITCHEN
OAK BASE CABINET
2 BURNER LP STOVE W/LID
DUCTED RANGE HOOD W/MONITOR PANEL
12V FLUORESCENT LIGHTS
MICROWAVE OVEN
STAINLESS STEEL SINK
KITCHEN FAUCET
VINYL FLOORING
6 CUBIC FT. 3-WAY REFRIGERATOR - OAK PANEL
(1) 22" X 15" SLIDER WINDOW W/SCREEN
(1) DAY/NIGHT SHADE
(1) WINDOW VALANCE (FABRIC)
OAK OVERHEAD CABINET
12V FLUORESCENT LIGHT UNDER OH CABINET
LAMINATE COUNTERTOPS - W/OAK EDGE

BATHROOM
OAK BASE CABINET
STAINLESS STEEL SINK
BATHROOM FAUCET
RV TOILET
OAK LINEN CLOSET
12V FLUORESCENT LIGHTS
OAK MEDICINE CABINET W/VANITY MIRROR
ANGLED FIBERGLASS SHOWER / GLASS DOOR
OAK DOOR
12V SCONCE LIGHTS
12V POWER ROOF VENT
LAMINATE COUNTERTOPS W/OAK EDGE
VINYL FLOORING
BATHROOM HARDWARE
FRAMED MIRROR @ SHOWER PLUMBING ACCESS PANEL

LIVING ROOM
LAMINATE TABLE W/OAK EDGE
VINYL FLOORING
OAK WARDROBE CLOSET
(1) 48" X 24" EGRESS SLIDER WINDOW W/SCREEN
(2) 18" x 24" SLIDER WINDOWS
(3) WINDOW VALANCE (FABRIC)
(3) DAY/NIGHT SHADE
OAK OVERHEAD CABINETS ABOVE DINETTE OR SOFA
12V FLUORESCENT LIGHTS
TELEVISION CABINET
HYDRAULIC SLIDE OUT

BEDROOM
QUEEN MATTRESS
MATTRESS COMFORTER
OAK HEADBOARD W/STORAGE
LADDER FOR BUNK
(2) OAK SHIRT CLOSETS
12V FLUORESCENT LIGHTS
CARPET IN BUNK
(1) 48" X 24" SLIDER WINDOW W/SCREEN
(1) 48" X 24" EGRESS SLIDER WINDOW W/SCREEN
(2) DAY/NIGHT SHADES
(2) WINDOW VALANCES (FABRIC)

HOLDING TANKS
FRESH WATER HOLDING TANK - 94 GALLON
GRAY WATER HOLDING TANK - 45 GALLON
BLACK HOLDING TANK - 45 GALLON
HOLDING TANK MONITOR PANEL

SAFETY FEATURES
SMOKE DETECTOR
CO DETECTOR
FIRE EXTINGUISHER
BATTERY DISCONNECT SWITCH
LP DETECTOR
GFI PROTECTED OUTLETS WHERE REQUIRED

1 UPGRADE TO 35K BTU FURNACE WITH FURNACE DOOR
Approval #:
1 ADD SKYLIGHT TO SHOWER - 18.5" x 18.5"
Approval #:
1 ADD BEDROOM PARTITION WALL WITH OAK POCKET DOOR
Approval #:
1 ADD 28" BATHROOM DOOR TO CARGO AREA
Approval #:
405-SERIES DOOR WITH FLUSHLOCK
BATHROOM SIDE MATCHES BATHROOM CABINETS
CARGO SIDE MATCHES CARGO AREA WALLS
1 UPGRADE TO BLACK STAINED MAPLE WOODWORK
Approval #:
1 UPGRADE FROM (2) 20# LP TANKS TO (2) 30# LP TANKS
Approval #:
1 UPGRADE TO CONVECTION MICROWAVE
Approval #:
1 UPGRADE TO RAISED PANEL DOORS
Approval #:
INCLUDES ALL LQ DOORS
1 UPGRADE TO PORCELAIN TOILET WITH 12V FLUSH
Approval #:
1 UPGRADE TO THREE SEASON PLUMBING
Approval #:
HOLDING TANK HEATER
WATER LINE HEATER
1 UPGRADE FROM 2.8 TO 5.7 GPM WATER PUMP
Approval #:
1 UPGRADE FROM 6-GALLON TO 10-GALLON DSI/ELECTRIC WATER HEATER
Approval #:
1 FIRE EXTINGUISHER - 10# BC
Approval #:
Includes Wall Mount
1 RVIA CERTIFICATION SEAL
Approval #:
40 ft WALK ON ROOF / FT
Approval #:
3/8" Plywood Decking
1 UPGRADE FROM MANUAL LANDING GEAR TO DUAL POST HYDRAULIC JACK FOR GOOSENECK
Approval #:
INCLUDES 12V BATTERY & BATTERY BOX (WIRED)
INCLUDES MANUAL OVERRIDE
*** DELETES MANUAL LANDING GEAR ***
1 UPGRADE TO ELECTRIC OVER HYDRAULIC DISC BRAKES - TANDEM 6K, 7K, OR 8K AXLES
Approval #:
1 UPGRADE TO 10" SPREAD AXLE DESIGN W/ FENDERETTES - TANDEM AXLE
Approval #:
Polished Aluminum Fenderettes
Single Fenderette Over Each Tire
Custom Wheelwell Skirt
Full Perimeter Skirt
Integrated Reverse Beavertail
*** Recommend Upgrade to LT Tires ***
*** Lowers Ground Clearance ***
1 UPGRADE TO CUSTOM AXLE DEGREE
Approval #:
1 UPGRADE TO FMVSS LOCK
Approval #:
1 ESCAPE DOOR 54" x 48" - SIDE HINGED (405 SERIES)
Approval #:
** APPROXIMATE FINISHED OPENING 52" x 46" **
1 ADD (2) 36" x 24" BAGGAGE DOORS TO ENCLOSED RISER - TOP HINGED (405 SERIES)
Approval #:
SPECIFY IF VENTED
1 ADD SINGLE GAS SHOCK TO ENTRANCE DOOR
Approval #:
1 GRAB HANDLE - 12V LIGHTED
Approval #:
1 pair 6' LONG X 14" WIDE ALUMINUM RAMP EXTENSIONS (PAIR)
Approval #:
INCLUDES (4) 3" RAMP DOOR BUMPERS
4 ALUMINUM ADJUSTABLE RAMP DOOR BUMPERS - 4 EACH
Approval #:
*** RANGE: 6.5", 7.5", 8.5" ***
2 ALUMINUM SLIDE-IN/OUT STEP
Approval #:
STEP WIDTH MATCHES DOOR SIZE
1 STAINLESS STEEL FRONT PANEL - GOOSENECK
Approval #:
40 ft FENDER HEIGHT STAINLESS STEEL SIDE TRIM / FT
Approval #:
Includes Rear Door(s)
1 STAINLESS STEEL REAR RAMP DOOR
Approval #:
40 ft .050 EXTERIOR ALUMINUM / FT (STANDARD HEIGHT THRU 18" EXTRA HEIGHT)
Approval #:
1 21' 12V POWER AWNING WITH ALUMINUM WEATHERSHIELD
Approval #:
Standard color & fabric is pewter on vinyl.
*** Does not include battery ***
1 POWER CUT-OFF SWITCH - 12V
***DISABLES MAIN BATTERY POWER***
4 DOME LIGHT - 12V - RECESSED IF APPLICABLE
Approval #:
12 BULLET HALOGEN LIGHT - 12V
space evenly thru out the living quarters ***delete the flourescent lights***
*** Does Not Include Wall Switch ***
*** Maximum of 9 Lights Per Switch ***
20 CLEARANCE LIGHT - LED
add 10 led lights to each side of the trailer top and bottom space evenly
Approval #:
1 pair FENDER LIGHTS - LED (PAIR)
Approval #:
1 pair BACK-UP LIGHTS - LED (PAIR)
1 pair DOCKING LIGHTS - STAINLESS STEEL (PAIR)
these are back up lights also.
Approval #:
1 SOLAR PANEL - 30 WATT - ROOF MOUNTED
Approval #:
1 5.5 KW ONAN GENERATOR PKG. - GAS (120V ONLY)
Approval #:
FUEL COMPARTMENT
13 GAL ABOVE FRAME FUEL TANK
20" x 36" 405 SERIES LOCKING FUEL DOOR
GENERATOR WIRING & PREP
REMOTE START
INSULATED GENERATOR COMPARTMENT WITH GALVANIZED LINER
36" x 36" 405 SERIES VENTED TOP HINGED GEN DOOR
30 AMP AUTO TRANSFER SWITCH
12V BATTERY & BOX, WIRED
1 UPGRADE FROM 13-GALLON FUEL TANK TO 24-GALLON IN-FRAME FUEL TANK
Approval #:
LOCKABLE CAST FUEL DOOR
FUEL GAUGE
INCLUDES AUXILIARY ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP
1 4000# SUPER WINCH, REMOTE, & BATTERY
Approval #:
12V BATTERY & BOX, WIRED
1 WIRELESS REMOTE CONTROL FOR SUPER WINCH W/ 2 REMOTES
Approval #:
1 IN-FLOOR WINCH BOX
Approval #:
Pulley & Hardware are Shipped Loose
Mount Plate Angled to 30 Degrees
Reduced Stress on Cable & Pulley
1 15,000 BTU A/C (12" OVERALL HEIGHT) - DOMETIC
Approval #:
THERMOSTAT IS OPTIONAL (THERMOSTAT IS REQUIRED ON DUCTED UNITS)
DUCTING IS OPTIONAL
HEAT STRIP IS OPTIONAL
1 HEAT STRIP FOR A/C - DOMETIC
Approval #:
*** Not Available on 15.0BTU Low-Profile A/C ***
*** Cannot Be Used With Heat Pump ***
*** 13.5 and 15.0 Brisk Air Do Not Require Thermostat ***
1 A/C THERMOSTAT (MOUNTED TO WALL) - DOMETIC
Approval #:
1 solid surface counter tops
Pending manufacturer approval
Approval #:
1 CRAFTSMAN 8-DRAWER TOOL CABINET INSERTED INTO BASE ALUMINUM CABINET
26.5" WIDE
BALL BEARING GUIDES
40 ft E-TRACK RECESSED IN FLOOR / FT - SINGLE ROW
2 rows in garage
Approval #:
8 E-TRACK HEAVY DUTY TIE DOWN CLIP WITH 2" O-RING - 6000# CAPACITY
Approval #:
1 Prosine 2000 watt invertor

[Stuart Adams]

Sounds like a great trailer. Your going to hook that up to a Ford, JK.

Congrats.

[GregWeld]

Stuart ---

I'm actually looking for some ideas there -- like -- It's too big for that truck ---
or whatever.

My current trailer is only 24' TAG....

Never had a trailer like this -- so I'm a bit nervous about the "commitment" to such a big azz (for me) rig... and whether or not it's worth the effort and hassle.


My thinking -- (I don't do that so well sometimes) is that I can haul this and when I want to just pull over and stop for the night etc - I can stay comfortably. NOW when it's getting dark - I need to duck in and find a motel and a place that I can park etc. It becomes a real hassle and can really shorten your day in the winter - with it dark and raining etc. So I am thinking that a rig like this - you could just pull over almost anywhere - any time. I want to do more "long distance" events.... and part of the hassle is the whole hotel/motel thing on trips like that.

[Stuart Adams]

Stuart ---

I'm actually looking for some ideas there -- like -- It's too big for that truck ---
or whatever.

My current trailer is only 24' TAG....

Never had a trailer like this -- so I'm a bit nervous about the "commitment" to such a big azz (for me) rig... and whether or not it's worth the effort and hassle.


My thinking -- (I don't do that so well sometimes) is that I can haul this and when I want to just pull over and stop for the night etc - I can stay comfortably. NOW when it's getting dark - I need to duck in and find a motel and a place that I can park etc. It becomes a real hassle and can really shorten your day in the winter - with it dark and raining etc. So I am thinking that a rig like this - you could just pull over almost anywhere - any time. I want to do more "long distance" events.... and part of the hassle is the whole hotel/motel thing on trips like that.

Sounds great.

Maybe check a SportChassis Truck. Look em up online. Sportchassis.com Pretty cool.

[rwhite692]

Accommodations for an onboard genset (slide-out setup) is nice. You could get a Miller welder/genset...That would be a rockin' setup! LOL

Also, depending on your fully loaded weight, you may also want a brake upgrade on your truck. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be the GCWR police)

I tow a 36' fifth wheel travel trailer with mine, trailer weighs just north of 12K loaded with crap and with the tanks "wet", and though the braking capability of my combined "system" (trailer's brakes, and truck's total braking contribution (engine/trans braking effect and truck's brakes) is certainly adequate, I want them to be "more than adequate", "inspire confidence" LOL.

So I am considering the addition of an exhaust brake and possibly an upgrade to the truck's brakes.

It may not apply, (probably doesn't!) but one other thing to consider is the used market, there are so many virtually new trailers on the market with upgrades out the gills, that haven't gone hardly anywhere...and can be had for 60 cents on the dollar or less, vs. new.

[youthpastor]

Probably the only thing I can add is...donate that old trailer to a good cause..like me! It will go good next to my plain jane Wells Cargo 24Foot

[rwhite692]

Sounds great.

Maybe check a SportChassis Truck. Look em up online. Sportchassis.com Pretty cool.


+1 on the Freightliner SportChassis. Two of them in use at RWI where my family works, they love them and they have been reliable.

[rwhite692]

Trailer Type: 2011 ATC Quest Gooseneck Car Hauler
Color: black
Cabinet Color: black
Axles: (2) 7000# Torsion Axles
Width: 8.5 ft
Length: 40 ft
Height: 7 ft
Model #: ATCGQST8540TA5..............


...............Standard Features:
FRAME

Pending manufacturer approval
Approval #:
1 CRAFTSMAN 8-DRAWER TOOL CABINET INSERTED INTO BASE ALUMINUM CABINET
26.5" WIDE
BALL BEARING GUIDES
40 ft E-TRACK RECESSED IN FLOOR / FT - SINGLE ROW
2 rows in garage
Approval #:
8 E-TRACK HEAVY DUTY TIE DOWN CLIP WITH 2" O-RING - 6000# CAPACITY
Approval #:
1 Prosine 2000 watt invertor






What? No Bidet?

[70rs]

Greg,
The trailer package sounds great. I was thinking about the counter tops with the oak edge (cabinet guy here) but then noticed you upgraded to solid surface. Is that upgrade for every top or just in the "garage" area? Those oak edges take a beating and don't look good very long.

Is this trailer beyond your trucks capacity?
Stuart made a good sugestion on the other trucks to look at.

[ccracin]

Maybe I missed it Greg, but I see dual axle referred to in the quote. Not triple as you mentioned. Then again it took me 20 minutes to read it the first time! :hail: Sounds nice, I would talk to Rodger and or Fesler as they seem to be up on this stuff. I would also look at the freightliner sport chassis. I have seen several at the race tracks and the owners seem very pleased.:thumbsup:

[96z28ss]

At work here we have 3 trailers. 1 40' and 2 24'.
The only time the 40' is used is for taking a vehicle to SEMA with display stuff. Everyone hates driving the truck with that trailer. Truck is a crew cab, trailer is a goose neck. Its just makes for too long a vehicle to maneuver around. Its not bad for taking it to a place you know there is room to move around. Get into a situation where there isn't room and its becomes a pain real fast.
Thats why I suggested the renegade coach with garage. Its a more compact unit. Easier to maneuver around. The accomodations in the living space are more of your pinkie in the air style.

[Blake Foster]

Keep Your Tail Gate DOWN when hooking up or unhooking

Just a little tip for ya there :D :D

I has a 42' tripple axle and HATED towing it arround. Too Long Too heavy (oh yea i would look at all Aluminum construction for the weight)
If You Ask Kenny he will tell you you dont even need trailer brakes on a 42............... go figure.

[Stuart Adams]

Check Powers RV. Alot of sportchasis trucks for sale.

[GregWeld]

Sounds great.

Maybe check a SportChassis Truck. Look em up online. Sportchassis.com Pretty cool.

Yep -- know all about them and considered this way for awhile. Trouble is IMHO -- they're so super useless for anything other than dragging a trailer. I USE my pick up all the time for small stuff... and don't care to give that up just to haul a trailer.

[GregWeld]

The accomodations in the living space are more of your pinkie in the air style.


You should get one then!


:captain: :unibrow:

[kennyd]

If You Ask Kenny he will tell you you dont even need trailer brakes on a 42............... go figure.[/QUOTE]

i have them i dont like to use them , and get it right its a 48 ft trailer ! buy the right truck and it will stop the trailer . not a 62 dodge dually with 400k miles with only front brakes like blakes truck .

[Blake Foster]

If You Ask Kenny he will tell you you dont even need trailer brakes on a 42............... go figure.

i have them i dont like to use them , and get it right its a 48 ft trailer ! buy the right truck and it will stop the trailer . not a 62 dodge dually with 400k miles with only front brakes like blakes truck .[/QUOTE]

GET IT RIGHT it's a 97.......... and the back brakes work just FINE!!!

:lol: :lol:
you kill me............ where do you live again......... Oh that's Right!!

[Stuart Adams]

Yep -- know all about them and considered this way for awhile. Trouble is IMHO -- they're so super useless for anything other than dragging a trailer. I USE my pick up all the time for small stuff... and don't care to give that up just to haul a trailer.

What you have will probably work fine. Just another possible option. If you were on the road alot it would be a better option. But if not, real pricey for small use.

[96z28ss]

You should get one then!


:captain: :unibrow:

Yeah your right its more for my comfort. You drive, and I'll lounge around out back.

[ironworks]

Someday when I can prove that Midgets carry a recessive jean for giants I will be able to prove paternity that I have indeed found my long lost DAD get me this to make up for not being around all these years.

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/51/Truck_Trailer_Combos/post/1947449/2003-53-foot-Featherlite-Command-Center-.html

Heck you could just buy this and I'll let you leave it at my place.

[GregWeld]

Someday when I can prove that Midgets carry a recessive jean for giants I will be able to prove paternity that I have indeed found my long lost DAD get me this to make up for not being around all these years.

http://www.racingjunk.com/category/51/Truck_Trailer_Combos/post/1947449/2003-53-foot-Featherlite-Command-Center-.html

Heck you could just buy this and I'll let you leave it at my place.

Nah -- that will never do! It doesn't even have a microwave! I have to have a COFFEE pot - grinder - fresh beans... storage for Bob's panties...


I could LIVE upstairs and never bump my head!



OMG! That thing is beautiful but just a bit overkill for what I'm planning...

I just need something that is capable of rescuing Blake when he brakes down -- or taking the '37 to Tracy when he's ready to give me a full upholstery job for free because he' needs some "exposure".

[GregWeld]

What you have will probably work fine. Just another possible option. If you were on the road alot it would be a better option. But if not, real pricey for small use.

I'm trying real hard - to keep it down to a dull roar..... and factor in MY use and how I THINK I will use it. I don't want a giant PITA for a very few road trips per year. I really just would like to be able to HAVE to get a hotel room when on the road. And it needs to be able to make a full "uey" in Charleys driveway when he (if ever) invites me down to help him wax all his crap. :D

[GregWeld]

Accommodations for an onboard genset (slide-out setup) is nice. You could get a Miller welder/genset...That would be a rockin' setup! LOL

Also, depending on your fully loaded weight, you may also want a brake upgrade on your truck. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be the GCWR police)

I tow a 36' fifth wheel travel trailer with mine, trailer weighs just north of 12K loaded with crap and with the tanks "wet", and though the braking capability of my combined "system" (trailer's brakes, and truck's total braking contribution (engine/trans braking effect and truck's brakes) is certainly adequate, I want them to be "more than adequate", "inspire confidence" LOL.

So I am considering the addition of an exhaust brake and possibly an upgrade to the truck's brakes.

It may not apply, (probably doesn't!) but one other thing to consider is the used market, there are so many virtually new trailers on the market with upgrades out the gills, that haven't gone hardly anywhere...and can be had for 60 cents on the dollar or less, vs. new.


There are a lot of trailers on the market.... and yeah most are "cheap" --- but most are NOT done the way I want. Or should I say... the way I think I want it.

I have the full Gale Banks Big Hoss Bundle on the truck -- which includes their braking system.... I also run the Talon Suspension system (air) on the truck for a nice ride - HUGE panhard bar - and I'm running a 1 ton dually (stability) with 4:11's... I think my limit is 23,000 pounds but that would be "crazy".... I'm thinking this trailer weighs 13K wet - and the '32 only weighs maybe 2500 #'s and my '37 isn't much more than that. So total is under 17K?
Still a bunch... and that worries me a bit.

[Tony Arnold]

Ive got a 40ft gooseneck that i use to haul my race cars with and HATE IT! Its just way to big and it can be a hassle when trying to pull in and out of parking lots or even some racetracks. But that is my only dislike about it. I would look into featherlite trailers or a motiv also. the floor we have is ok but after we load up the car get home and unload it the tires are still hot and pull up the vinyl floor a bit so i would go with a coin style floor. We just purchased a stacker trailer which i LOVE! there is way more room and its more organized

[96z28ss]

Send your truck down to West Coast Customs and have them Pimp your ride.
Tell them you want a microwave, coffee maker, and a full size bed. and it has to all fit in the second row seating.

[Rybar]

Greg, I remember SW buying a trailer like this a while ago, so I did a search. Looks like it's similar setup to what you are looking for.

Here is the thread: http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=2264

You may want to PM or contact him to ask him these questions?

http://www.fototime.com/B599E7032D31CEB/orig.jpg

[rwhite692]

... I think my limit is 23,000 pounds but that would be "crazy".... I'm thinking this trailer weighs 13K wet - and the '32 only weighs maybe 2500 #'s and my '37 isn't much more than that. So total is under 17K?
Still a bunch... and that worries me a bit.

The GVWR for your truck (maximum allowable total, including the weight of the tow vehicle itself plus fuel, passengers, cargo, and the trailer and its contents) is 13K. Although Ford says that in a fifth wheel (or gooseneck) application you can go up to 18.6K GVWR.

If the trailer weighs in at 13 before you even add a vehicle and "stuff" to it...You are definitely in the market for some more truck, hoss.

(Or, less trailer).

http://www.fordcpo.com/ford/assets/specsheets/2007/07_Super%20Duty_Online%20Cat_NAV.pdf

[coolwelder62]

I did not see sat. TV or internet.Awesome trailer.My buddy's F350 worked hard to pull his 48ft.T&E. So he got an F450 and it worked a little better.:thumbsup: Scott

[GregWeld]

Ive got a 40ft gooseneck that i use to haul my race cars with and HATE IT! Its just way to big and it can be a hassle when trying to pull in and out of parking lots or even some racetracks. But that is my only dislike about it. I would look into featherlite trailers or a motiv also. the floor we have is ok but after we load up the car get home and unload it the tires are still hot and pull up the vinyl floor a bit so i would go with a coin style floor. We just purchased a stacker trailer which i LOVE! there is way more room and its more organized

Brilliant! You hated the big trailer so much you bought a bigger one! I like you're thinking!
:lol:

[clill]

Did I read it has a manual jack for the tongue ? If so, switch to a electric one.

[GregWeld]

Did I read it has a manual jack for the tongue ? If so, switch to a electric one.

You quite reading when you got to the UPGRADES and OPTIONS part of the order(quote). It has an electric / hydraulic landing gear -- one finger operation.


Not sure how it works - but it should have the double "legs".


Charley -- how do you feel about hauling the length of your trailer?

[GregWeld]

The GVWR for your truck (maximum allowable total, including the weight of the tow vehicle itself plus fuel, passengers, cargo, and the trailer and its contents) is 13K. Although Ford says that in a fifth wheel (or gooseneck) application you can go up to 18.6K GVWR.

If the trailer weighs in at 13 before you even add a vehicle and "stuff" to it...You are definitely in the market for some more truck, hoss.

(Or, less trailer).

http://www.fordcpo.com/ford/assets/specsheets/2007/07_Super%20Duty_Online%20Cat_NAV.pdf



I remember a KALIFORNIA nazi black and white unit pulling me over on I-5 and going over all my GVWR etc.... he was really just trying to bust my chops -- but he didn't realize who he pulled over -- my chops are not so easy to bust or intimidate. His first words out of his mouth when asked why he pulled me over was "because you're a professional speeder". I said - REALLY?! So how fast was I going there officer? (I was doing the LEGAL limit of a whopping 55)... He then changed his tune to him wanting to check my GVWR etc -- and continued to tell me I was a professional speeder. Now I'm getting pissed 'cause this azzhole is just wasting my time (the only thing I have of ANY value)... what he did - and since I knew he was behind me - since I have a world famous CB.... is looked thru the side window as he passed me - saw the CB antenna and Radar detector and decided he should hassle me. He never did actually look inside the trailer! So he really wasn't interested in my GVWR.

I had his blood pressure up pretty high by the time we got done... which just gives me no end of pleasure. Not because he's a cop - but because he was a BAD cop. Prior to this encounter - I'd never ever looked at these kinds of ratings/limits etc.:cheers:

[JKnight]

The GVWR for your truck (maximum allowable total, including the weight of the tow vehicle itself plus fuel, passengers, cargo, and the trailer and its contents) is 13K. Although Ford says that in a fifth wheel (or gooseneck) application you can go up to 18.6K GVWR.

If the trailer weighs in at 13 before you even add a vehicle and "stuff" to it...You are definitely in the market for some more truck, hoss.

(Or, less trailer).

http://www.fordcpo.com/ford/assets/specsheets/2007/07_Super%20Duty_Online%20Cat_NAV.pdf

Here's another source that qoutes 15K as the maximim trailer weight for a 2006 Super Duty Powerstroke, 15.6K as the max weight in fifth wheel config.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/2006/06RVttslctrp17Jan06.pdf

[68protouring454]

i have a 2005 f350, 6.0l ford and have hauled a 44 ft 2 car trailer all over the mid west and east coat, get 10 to 10.5 mpg and stops good with 2 camaros etc
if your talking by the book, anything reg for over 10k lbs needs a class a license.
5th wheel is different the gooseneck for tongue loads etc

have fun going to a f450, those things are turds, wont go over 65, 4.56 rear gears

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Have lights installed in floor to use at night for hooking up straps, Wireless remote for winch control, also lower lights on the walls to use at night.

[GregWeld]

Here's another source that qoutes 15K as the maximim trailer weight for a 2006 Super Duty Powerstroke, 15.6K as the max weight in fifth wheel config.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/rv_trailer_towing/2006/06RVttslctrp17Jan06.pdf

This is all quite the learning curve so I'm really glad I posted it up!

My truck is a Crew Cab - 8ft box - DRW - with 4:10 gears -- so the chart you posted has it at 15,600 #s

[DRJDVM's '69]

I thought you had a black trailer and hated the color?

[GregWeld]

I thought you had a black trailer and hated the color?

Dude...


There is only ONE color -- and that's BLACK.

I hate that it gets dirty maybe -- but I don't hate the color!

[DRJDVM's '69]

I distinctly remember you complaining about keeping it clean and the fact that it became an oven when the outside temp was warm/hot.....

If history is any prediction, you'll get it in black now.....and get all the bells and whistles...and 6 months from now, you'll re-do the whole thing anyway :)

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I hate to admit it but it's so true.

Yes the black is an oven --- but the LQ part has A/C... and I don't hang out in the back except to unload the car. Never been in a trailer when it's 90* outside whether it's white or black - that wasn't an oven. As old and out of shape as I am - I'm sweating right now just thinking about it!


BTW -- I'm actually trying to avoid making a 6 figure mistake here.... Nothing worse than committing to something like this and then doing the "repeat after me.... you are a dumbazz" over and over in your head. Thus the reason I thought I'd toss this out there and try to learn first.

[Tony Arnold]

Brilliant! You hated the big trailer so much you bought a bigger one! I like you're thinking!
:lol:

the one i bought is actually 5 feet shorter but its a stacker so yes it is bigger haha. Another thing you might want to consider is looking into getting some longer mirrors to see round the trailer that was a problem i had pulling my trailer with my duramax...... couldnt see around the thing untill i got some longer mirrors.

[Stuart Adams]

Have you considered a Haulmark motorcoach pulling a regular size car trailer or stacker. More versatile.

[71RS/SS396]

Don't get the coin flooring! I have it in mine and it's a pain in the arse to clean and keep looking nice. I have the outside halogen flood lights and I think I've used them once in 4 years. I would also suggest an air compressor and plumbed for air lines front and rear, I use mine more than I ever thought I would, it makes it easy for checking tire pressures and using an impact to change flats. I also have an in floor spare tire comparment that is nice for storing your spare tire out of the way.

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Reverse lights are also nice on the outside corners

[GregWeld]

Stuart

No --- And the only reason I say that is because I don't want to have to have a special rig. I want to keep my pick up or possibly a larger pick up but I don't want a dedicated rig for this. My primary reason for liv qtrs is just to stop on the road to and from somewhere -- I have ZERO intention of actually spending a week in this. It's a night here and there. So to have a big motor or toterhome is not what I want to do.


71RS

I have that in my current trailer... I store chains and a spare portable winch. After having one blow out on I-10 out of Palm Springs - and having to back the car up so I could access the spare -- FT!! It's a TRAILER not my living room! I mounted the spare on a mount back by the rear door up high - that way I can just grab it with no unstrapping the car etc.

I have an air compressor already. And yes - I wouldn't be without it. And yes - agree with the side lights - I've used mine ONE TIME. But that one time - was totally kool and useful. They're for pro racer dudes that are out there constantly and working on their stuff. Hot rodder just trailer from place to place so we use our trailers quite differently.

I also have an all aluminum race jack in a pit pal holder.... used it TWICE - but man was it handy. It's one of those -- "better to have it and not need it - than need it and not have it" kind of things. I also carry 3 ton jackstands. They fit in the tire pit.

Most useful handy magical thing ever in the trailer -- a jacking ramp thing I bought at a trailer store never thinking I'd ever use it. If a tire is flat - say the rear - you pull the good one up on the ramp and the flat is off the ground instantly. SUPER EASY! OMG! My flat was on the front so just backed the good rear one on this ramp and bingo bango -- changed and done! pull forward and store the plastic "ramp". :woot:


Tracy


Yes! I added halogen backing lights in the rear - and up the middle of the trailer. Having been caught once on a dark rainy night - dead tired - and having to back my BLACK trailer (24' Motortrac 4000) up 200' and then around a corner with brick walls on both sides.... I'M TOTALLY A FAN OF BIG BACKUP LIGHTS! My Ford has the "upfitter switches" --- which are relayed... totally perfect for that kind of stuff! I have four of them -- so the CB and the Texas Star is on one (30 amp relay) -- back up lights on the truck on one - and have two left for trailer backing lights.

I also have 20 - count 'em - 20 - side marker lights.... Optional - and on the order already! EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This f'n thing - should I decide to pull the trigger - will look like a light show rolling down the road! DUDE! <spicoli style> LOL

[GregWeld]

71RS

You're about the third person to say DON'T on the coin floor.

So I'm thinking about just asking them to leave the "box" plywood - painted/sealed.... and maybe having the floor done in bed liner? Or maybe
just leaving it plain and painted.

My current trailer has polished diamond plate --- talk about a waste of money and slippery! One drop of coolant or fluid - and you're going to the hospital with a broken hip!:willy:

[JKnight]

This is all quite the learning curve so I'm really glad I posted it up!

My truck is a Crew Cab - 8ft box - DRW - with 4:10 gears -- so the chart you posted has it at 15,600 #s

I have the same truck (4x4), and I've towed my 13K+ pound fifth wheel all over the place so I know it can easily handle what you're looking at. This thing is gonna be badass that's for sure.

[Blake Foster]

71RS

You're about the third person to say DON'T on the coin floor.

So I'm thinking about just asking them to leave the "box" plywood - painted/sealed.... and maybe having the floor done in bed liner? Or maybe
just leaving it plain and painted.

My current trailer has polished diamond plate --- talk about a waste of money and slippery! One drop of coolant or fluid - and you're going to the hospital with a broken hip!:willy:

Bed Liner would totaly be the answer!!! have them bed line the plywood on both sides prior to installing it that way it won't rot from the bottom side like mine it. 5$ says they make it an option after you ask for it!!

[Ketzer]

I wonder what is the perfect flooring solution? If it's rough, it's impossible to clean. If it's smooth and it gets even a little damp, you bust azz. I bet most are unhappy whichever way they went.

[GregWeld]

I have the same truck (4x4), and I've towed my 13K+ pound fifth wheel all over the place so I know it can easily handle what you're looking at. This thing is gonna be badass that's for sure.

Mine is also a 4X ---- wish it wasn't but that's another "didn't know better". I really don't need the 4X since - if it's snowing - I just don't go anywhere! LOL


BEST THING EVER --- the BANKS system -- with the brake controller! WOW does that thing work slick! Lift your foot and bam! She goes into compression mode (of course it's not compression but that's what it feels like). So for schitz and giggles -- I came down a long grade - and switched from the trailer mode in the truck (factory option) to the BANKS version... and back and forth. OMG!
The factory version -- I'm just picking up speed man.... like a runaway.... switch to the Banks - BAM! The POS hauls right down and just stays there - and I never touched the brakes. Not sure how it works - but it sure works!

[HRBS]

Damn Greg.... :lol:
Hey, has anyone steered you away from black yet ?
I know black is beautiful but, "light" is right.
I know how hot my 28ft white trailer gets in the summer, I can only imagine a black one. I know you'll have ac but its just a thought.

ps... can i be your friend ?

[GregWeld]

Damn Greg.... :lol:
Hey, has anyone steered you away from black yet ?
I know black is beautiful but, "light" is right.
I know how hot my 28ft white trailer gets in the summer, I can only imagine a black one. I know you'll have ac but its just a thought.

ps... can i be your friend ?


NO


:rofl: :rofl: :woot:


I know you're absolutely right on "white/light"... but I just can't pull the trigger unless my stuff looks "custom" and "badass" even if it means pain and suffering!

I get so many calls on the CB saying how killer my rig looks rollin'.... and I have to like it myself or I'm just not happy. I fully understand my sickness and have surrendered to it! :D

[GregWeld]

PS:

I really just want to be a "baller" like Kenny and Rodger... and if I got white - Charley would think I copied him.

:D

[ironworks]

How about black sides with a white roof, with good roof vents.

[96z28ss]

Does the tailgate have to be swapped out with one that has the lower section in the middle?

[JKnight]

Does the tailgate have to be swapped out with one that has the lower section in the middle?

Only if you want to avoid doing the dance of, lower the tailgate, hitch up to the trailer, raise the tailgate, drive off. Some people like to be able to back up, hitch up and go. I don't find it too annoying, but gets ugly if you forget.

[71RS/SS396]

71RS

You're about the third person to say DON'T on the coin floor.

So I'm thinking about just asking them to leave the "box" plywood - painted/sealed.... and maybe having the floor done in bed liner? Or maybe
just leaving it plain and painted.

My current trailer has polished diamond plate --- talk about a waste of money and slippery! One drop of coolant or fluid - and you're going to the hospital with a broken hip!:willy:

Yep forgot about the coin flooring being slippery as snot on a glass door knob too. I'm not sure about bedliner, it's tough to clean too the dirt sits in the valleys of the texture. I honestly think painted wood is the way to go, it can be repainted if it gets tired looking.

[Romulus]

I'm bet a little research would find something pretty reasonable and maybe even kinda trick to vent heat via solar operated fan. You have enough sqft on the roof that you could run AC on solar... :lol:

Heck - they are putting flexible solar panels in back packs nowadays.

[GregWeld]

I'm bet a little research would find something pretty reasonable and maybe even kinda trick to vent heat via solar operated fan. You have enough sqft on the roof that you could run AC on solar... :lol:

Heck - they are putting flexible solar panels in back packs nowadays.

Sounds like a tree hugger!

LOL

No roof penetrations for me. I live in the land of rain and the heat just isn't an issue nearly as much as something that pokes a hole in a roof. Good suggestion though!

[nvmyss]

I remember a KALIFORNIA nazi black and white unit pulling me over on I-5 and going over all my GVWR etc.... he was really just trying to bust my chops --

The latest thing CA has is they are giving tickets to 3 axle trailers. Some how they are justifying it as a commercial or special endorsement license. They are trying to get every penny they can off people.

Might want to look in to that if you go thru CA often.

[Romulus]

Sounds like a tree hugger!

LOL

No roof penetrations for me. I live in the land of rain and the heat just isn't an issue nearly as much as something that pokes a hole in a roof. Good suggestion though!

Tree hugger..oh hell no. I just like technology. And these guys are all hung up on the few extra degrees that black is gonna give you.

Speaking of tree huggers...I actually read about a "kalifornia" proposal making certain dark colored cars illegal since it "decreased" fuel economy due to the AC working harder.....holy helllll!

[tazzz2_ca]

Hey Greg I just saw this buddy..... Call me on the cell or we'll talk down at Barrett next week because I can share a few little things with you there buddy....

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af93/projectwarpath/general/IMG00033-20100414-1213.jpg

[96z28ss]

Are the sides of that thing made of canvas?
Wow thats got some waves in it.

[96z28ss]

Well I think Greg has found his car hauler with living quarters.
He emailed me this picture to post it up. I think he did a good job. Just not sure how reliable it is, it seems like he bought it slightly used.

[awr68]

What's the over all length limit for Cali and other States? I remember my cousin telling me that Cali is 60' max? He has a motorhome and 26' race trailer for his Drag Boat and was telling me he is too long for Cali...but goes down there a couple times a year anyways...so far no problems...but it's always in the back of his mind when he goes down there for races!

[awr68]

Greg, Frank has a 42' (I believe) trailer (black!)...I would think he would have some good insight after crossing the country a couple few times with it! :cheers:

[clill]

Can I be first in line to buy it for 10 cents on the dollar when you decide it is too big ?

[JamesJ]

It may be one of your options but I would get a third axle, and get brakes on all the axles not just two.

The other thing is get e track (thats what we call it) along the front and some of the sides, nice to strap tool boxes or whatever to the sides or front.

Make sure the gas tank filler for the gen is not in a hard place to get and on the driver side, and that when filling its got a nice flow to it.

Flush lights on the side are nice then when you look in your rear view you dont see lights at night

as far as lights just make sure you can get to them have had some traielrs in the past were it would take a hour to change the bulb

We also use the goodyear G rated tire and steel wheels, and have two spares. The tires are great and you have to use a wheel that can handle 100+ psi

I also see that people are talking about a big truck, NO we have a FL 70 and a F450 and the 450 is just so much simpler and you can actually drive it around. But if you wan to buy a FL70 toter home and 44 footer then I got one for you!

[awr68]

What about a driver side exit door?

[rocketman]

What are you hauling just show car? I dont think the living 1/4's are needed unless you are racing or going to stay in it at shows etc.

[awr68]

He has a '32 and '37 that he wants to haul around...not sure if the '56 will be in the mix as well?

[ironworks]

Well don't ask me how but the legal limit is 65 ft. We were 64'10".

And if my trailer was a 2 axle I would not need a non commercial CDL. With the triple 7k axles it puts the trailer over the GVWR and requires me to have an A class license. And legally I'm supposed to have a CDL to just drive my F-450 down the highway.

Apparently Jerry Brown is looking to me to pull California out of this budget crisis single handedly.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[nvr2fst]

Greg,

I can guarantee you wont go wrong with ATC. I personally own 3 of there all aluminum trailers, smallest being a custom fitted 16' I opt to use on the job sites as my office once the first scratch/bent fender got on it, lol, a 24 and 26' Although mine are not gooseneck type the "fit and finish" is the best Ive ever had out of multiple brands over the years. Plus there not to far away so I was able to buy direct. Ive always heard good things about Renegade too but I never see them being pulled out here in the midwest.
Bare in mind though if you have to replace a fender skirt it will set u back almost 500 per side (dont let others back up your trailers:mad:)

ATC- look at the cost of there cabinets and accessories. They are priced much lower than others if you decide to upgrade your package down the line. Have you checked out there Silver series ? the way they do the bottom corners are sweet and the paint schemes will definitely put you in as a "baller" like Rodger HA

[nvr2fst]

Have lights installed in floor to use at night for hooking up straps, Wireless remote for winch control, also lower lights on the walls to use at night.

Are you sure your not trying to get Greg to build a disco dance floor:rofl:

[GregWeld]

Greg, Frank has a 42' (I believe) trailer (black!)...I would think he would have some good insight after crossing the country a couple few times with it! :cheers:

Lots of guys have gooseneck trailers but so far I haven't had any luck finding someone with living quarters in one.

[nvr2fst]

A baller like yourself needs to showoff that fancy interior. Clearview ATC trailer? Not sure about the water closet though!

http://www.aluminumtrailer.com/ATC%20and%20Motiv%20Gallery/Car%20Haulers/2009%20ATC%20Quest%20with%20Plexiglas%20Windows/thumbs/2009%20ATC%20Quest%20with%20Plexiglas%20Windows-169401-0000.jpg

[GregWeld]

Can I be first in line to buy it for 10 cents on the dollar when you decide it is too big ?

Hell Charley! I still haven't made it home from BJ! I did the GNRS. Now I'm in Yountville!! Working with an agent tomorrow. See, if I had the big baller trailer right now I wouldnt be paying these high prices for rooms!! :D

I'll give you first right of refusal. :hail: :hail: :cheers:

[Sieg]

For flooring check into Mannington's Assurance. It is a commercial vinyl designed for traction in damp areas. I've had it in 16' Wells Cargo trailer for 6+ years and it has held up well.

For the living area consider using J&J or Milliken carpet tile, loop pile, darker color will easily sweep vs. vacuum.

+1 on white or silver roof.

This is the best pic I have:
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/ORP-2-Fast-8-15-09/IMGP5184/622018635_xB4wB-XL.jpg

[Sti_Guy]

Option i didn't see, Backup Camera!

[fesler]

Greg if you have any questions about what to add and what you need give me a call. I have had several huge trailers as you know with my biggest one being a 52' trailer with living quarters.

Do not do the rubber circle floors as you will hate them on your knees when strapping cars down. Make sure you have a backup camera on the back of the trailer up high in the center it will help you back up anywhere with no issues. You would not believe what I can get my truck in and out of with its size just because of the cameras. I have two.

Right now I am running almost 75’ and weigh in at over 68,000 pounds fully loaded and it rides like a dream and registered as a RV so no scales. I have had over 12 trailers and several trucks to pull them and the Toter is by far the best set up I have ever driven. If you have any questions about options let me know as I have been down this road for what you need and what you want several times.

[bigtime]

I'm new here but have been racing and pulling 5th wheel trailers since 88. I tow a all aluminum gold rush this is my second one. if you can afford it look at them you won't be sorry best out there period.

http://gallery.bigtimeauto.com/albums/Duallie/Regal_015.sized.jpg

I used to to it with a 91 chevy extended cab but now use a dodge mega cab.

http://gallery.bigtimeauto.com/albums/Duallie/misc_018.sized.jpg

[GregWeld]

Greg if you have any questions about what to add and what you need give me a call. I have had several huge trailers as you know with my biggest one being a 52' trailer with living quarters.

Do not do the rubber circle floors as you will hate them on your knees when strapping cars down. Make sure you have a backup camera on the back of the trailer up high in the center it will help you back up anywhere with no issues. You would not believe what I can get my truck in and out of with its size just because of the cameras. I have two.

Right now I am running almost 75’ and weigh in at over 68,000 pounds fully loaded and it rides like a dream and registered as a RV so no scales. I have had over 12 trailers and several trucks to pull them and the Toter is by far the best set up I have ever driven. If you have any questions about options let me know as I have been down this road for what you need and what you want several times.


Chris -- Thanks buddy! I'll actually have to call you. This experience is exactly what I was looking for. :cheers: :woot:

[GregWeld]

I'm new here but have been racing and pulling 5th wheel trailers since 88. I tow a all aluminum gold rush this is my second one. if you can afford it look at them you won't be sorry best out there period.



Dude! Appreciate the the info! Good pics too! The trailer I've been "working on" is built by Aluminum Trailer Corp (ATC) so is all aluminum. Saves about 1500 lbs over the same trailer built with a steel frame.

With a name like "Gold Rush" it has to be expensive! :rofl: Not sure I can afford a trailer like that bad boy! :unibrow: Maybe I can get one of those no money down leases! They're made for people like me. No credit. No problem!


EEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA:woot:

[bigtime]

If its all aluminum then just leave the floor raw, it will clean up easier if you spill something.

yes Goldrush trailers are on the higher end side BUT, they hold their value, quality is unmatched, any option you can think of.

The only thing that scares me is the torsion axles, Dexter says do not use them on triples yet i see people still use them and i do not know why or why not.

(My trailer is leaf sprung with shocks)

[SickSpeedMonte]

Well don't ask me how but the legal limit is 65 ft. We were 64'10".

Isn't that just for the rack style car haulers, like this?

http://www.advancetruckcapital.com/images/truck%20listings/TB-1001_thumb.jpg

(Which isn't really a fifth wheel, even though it has a king pin if I'm not mistaken)

Source:

http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/sw/overview/index.htm

I could be wrong, it does say semi-trailer.

[GregWeld]

I've finally settled on a combo and a dealer....

Sport Trucks USA - Chandler AriDzona

I'm ordering a 24' IKON Toter home (they don't really offer these but will build it) on a Freightliner Cascadia chassis - with a 525 HP Cummins - and 13 speed ultra shift... Basically this is the 24' Renegade floor plan - but with the IKON exterior and interiors -- and I'm adding a push out for the bedroom in back for a bit more room. This will drink 8 - feed 4 - and sleep 2 :unibrow:

Per Charley's request it will have an exterior bbq and electric cooler - observation deck and railings on the trailer - and multiple awnings... Sorry Charley - no exterior TV.

40' Stacker Gooseneck with their new hydraulic beavertail gate and internal lift. Bard A/C and Heat...

All of it on air ride - including the front axle...and equipped with OnSpot chains and cold air package, spread axles, air brakes, full size rims and tires... (this is new for them and makes a better trailer).
Should be ready in time to make the Buttonwillow dates.:thumbsup: :woot:

[ironworks]

I've finally settled on a combo and a dealer....

Sport Trucks USA - Chandler AriDzona

I'm ordering a 24' IKON Toter home (they don't really offer these but will build it) on a Freightliner Cascadia chassis - with a 525 HP Cummins - and 13 speed ultra shift... Basically this is the 24' Renegade floor plan - but with the IKON exterior and interiors -- and I'm adding a push out for the bedroom in back for a bit more room. This will drink 8 - feed 4 - and sleep 2 :unibrow:

Per Charley's request it will have an exterior bbq and electric cooler - observation deck and railings on the trailer - and multiple awnings... Sorry Charley - no exterior TV.

40' Stacker Gooseneck with their new hydraulic beavertail gate and internal lift. Bard A/C and Heat...

All of it on air ride - including the front axle...and equipped with OnSpot chains and cold air package.

Should be ready in time to make the Buttonwillow dates.:thumbsup: :woot:

Check and see how wide it is inbetween wheel wells or have ramps to go over wheelwells. Makes getting in and out easier. And wider cars ride better.

[GregWeld]

Check and see how wide it is inbetween wheel wells or have ramps to go over wheelwells. Makes getting in and out easier. And wider cars ride better.

Have you ever seen a '32 Ford Roadster in a trailer?

:rofl:

[Track Junky]

I've finally settled on a combo and a dealer....

Sport Trucks USA - Chandler AriDzona

I'm ordering a 24' IKON Toter home (they don't really offer these but will build it) on a Freightliner Cascadia chassis - with a 525 HP Cummins - and 13 speed ultra shift... Basically this is the 24' Renegade floor plan - but with the IKON exterior and interiors -- and I'm adding a push out for the bedroom in back for a bit more room. This will drink 8 - feed 4 - and sleep 2 :unibrow:

Per Charley's request it will have an exterior bbq and electric cooler - observation deck and railings on the trailer - and multiple awnings... Sorry Charley - no exterior TV.

40' Stacker Gooseneck with their new hydraulic beavertail gate and internal lift. Bard A/C and Heat...

All of it on air ride - including the front axle...and equipped with OnSpot chains and cold air package, spread axles, air brakes, full size rims and tires... (this is new for them and makes a better trailer).
Should be ready in time to make the Buttonwillow dates.:thumbsup: :woot:


Wow, missed this thread. Thats fricken awesome Greg. :thumbsup:

BTW, I like my steaks medium rare and be sure to bring plenty of Budlights. :lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I've finally settled on a combo and a dealer....

Sport Trucks USA - Chandler AriDzona

I'm ordering a 24' IKON Toter home (they don't really offer these but will build it) on a Freightliner Cascadia chassis - with a 525 HP Cummins - and 13 speed ultra shift... Basically this is the 24' Renegade floor plan - but with the IKON exterior and interiors -- and I'm adding a push out for the bedroom in back for a bit more room. This will drink 8 - feed 4 - and sleep 2 :unibrow:

Per Charley's request it will have an exterior bbq and electric cooler - observation deck and railings on the trailer - and multiple awnings... Sorry Charley - no exterior TV.

40' Stacker Gooseneck with their new hydraulic beavertail gate and internal lift. Bard A/C and Heat...

All of it on air ride - including the front axle...and equipped with OnSpot chains and cold air package, spread axles, air brakes, full size rims and tires... (this is new for them and makes a better trailer).
Should be ready in time to make the Buttonwillow dates.:thumbsup: :woot:

You'll be very popular my friend, biker gangs really dig those rigs. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Wow, missed this thread. Thats fricken awesome Greg. :thumbsup:

BTW, I like my steaks medium rare and be sure to bring plenty of Budlights. :lol:

I'm a Vegan and haven't had a drink in over 27 years.

Ever hear the term S O L. ??

[Track Junky]

I'm a Vegan and haven't had a drink in over 27 years.

Ever hear the term S O L. ??

In that case I'll bring the beer and toss in a bail of hay. :D

[mdprovee]

I've finally settled on a combo and a dealer....

-- and I'm adding a push out for the bedroom in back for a bit more room. This will drink 8 - feed 4 - and sleep 2 :unibrow:






Greg, Laura wants to know if it only sleeps two, where are you and your wife going to sleep once dinner is done. Guests have the back room right?

[GregWeld]

In that case I'll bring the beer and toss in a bail of hay. :D

DEAL!!


:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Greg, Laura wants to know if it only sleeps two, where are you and your wife going to sleep once dinner is done. Guests have the back room right?


Younger guests get anywhere they "think they can".... over the tv -- on the floor -- standing up in the bathroom....

Old guys get the beds.

[mdprovee]

Younger guests get anywhere they "think they can".... over the tv -- on the floor -- standing up in the bathroom....

Old guys get the beds.

So that means you and I get the bed, and our wives are on their own. Cool!!

[GregWeld]

So that means you and I get the bed, and our wives are on their own. Cool!!

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[96z28ss]

Thats awesome. I know you have been thinking, what to do ,and what to get for a while now.
Just let me know and I'll ride shotgun when ever you need.

[GregWeld]

Thats awesome. I know you have been thinking, what to do ,and what to get for a while now.
Just let me know and I'll ride shotgun when ever you need.

Yeah -- I've been kicking this around for 5 years or so....

[Sieg]

NICE! :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

I would like to tell all who contributed to this thread -- a hearty THANK YOU!

Without the knowledgeable input of folks here - I likely would have made a big mistake and ordered the wrong trailer. So I'm real serious here when I say Thanks!

Well.... and Charley selling me the Mustang made a difference as well - because that changes the use... and time away from home etc. But mostly it was my wife's Bondurant driving school experience and the fact that she LIKED IT and now understands why I like doing this stuff!!

[Blake Foster]

If You Ask Kenny he will tell you you dont even need trailer brakes on a 42............... go figure.

i have them i dont like to use them , and get it right its a 48 ft trailer ! buy the right truck and it will stop the trailer . not a 62 dodge dually with 400k miles with only front brakes like blakes truck .[/QUOTE]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: its a 97 by the way!!!!

you kill me

[Blake Foster]

I've finally settled on a combo and a dealer....

Sport Trucks USA - Chandler AriDzona

I'm ordering a 24' IKON Toter home (they don't really offer these but will build it) on a Freightliner Cascadia chassis - with a 525 HP Cummins - and 13 speed ultra shift... Basically this is the 24' Renegade floor plan - but with the IKON exterior and interiors -- and I'm adding a push out for the bedroom in back for a bit more room. This will drink 8 - feed 4 - and sleep 2 :unibrow:

Per Charley's request it will have an exterior bbq and electric cooler - observation deck and railings on the trailer - and multiple awnings... Sorry Charley - no exterior TV.

40' Stacker Gooseneck with their new hydraulic beavertail gate and internal lift. Bard A/C and Heat...

All of it on air ride - including the front axle...and equipped with OnSpot chains and cold air package, spread axles, air brakes, full size rims and tires... (this is new for them and makes a better trailer).
Should be ready in time to make the Buttonwillow dates.:thumbsup: :woot:

to haul a 32 Ford????
lol i guess you need to finish a couple projects so you can hit the road should be the right choice, i think we talked about this option, good call no regrets

[GregWeld]

to haul a 32 Ford????
lol i guess you need to finish a couple projects so you can hit the road should be the right choice, i think we talked about this option, good call no regrets

With this setup I can haul 3 cars.... two upstairs and one on the floor. Figure this way I can toss the Mustang in -- one show car -- and one regular car (or a buddies car) and hit the road!

Since I mostly use "any excuse" to hit the road in the WINTER to get the hell our of here - I'd do the ONSPOT chain deployment system so I can cruise over Mt Shasta --- or go thru Utah (to get to AriDzona).

Hey! For 10 grand I'll put one of your 2" high "Deckel's" on it!


:cheers:

[ccracin]

But mostly it was my wife's Bondurant driving school experience and the fact that she LIKED IT and now understands why I like doing this stuff!!

That's the most important part of this whole thread! Good Stuff! :cheers:

[Sieg]

Glad to hear Gwen like the experience as that will make the next few years very enjoyable. I ride motorcycle track days with a husband and wife team they did 14 events last year! The wife is 120 lbs riding a Ducati 1198 and rides at B+/A- level............she flies and loves it. The downside is their tire expenses. :D

The two of you should have a blast! What car is Gwen going to end up with? :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Glad to hear Gwen like the experience as that will make the next few years very enjoyable. I ride motorcycle track days with a husband and wife team they did 14 events last year! The wife is 120 lbs riding a Ducati 1198 and rides at B+/A- level............she flies and loves it. The downside is their tire expenses. :D

The two of you should have a blast! What car is Gwen going to end up with? :unibrow:

She wants to scream around in the R8 Spyder....

I'm thinking more like a Datsun B210 or Miata!

LOL

[Blake Foster]

Hey! For 10 grand I'll put one of your 2" high "Deckel's" on it!


:cheers:[/QUOTE]

Check is in the mail!! :thumbsup: but i think you ment to say 2' not 2" :lol:

[ironworks]

She wants to scream around in the R8 Spyder....

I'm thinking more like a Datsun B210 or Miata!

LOL

There are some really sweet 510's out there. And it's smaller then a 32 and cheaper then an R8 when stuffed in a set of tires.

[RECOVERY ROOM]

I had a 510 at one time, It was a riot to drive stock with just tires

[intocarss]

Congrats on your new rig.. Make sure to save room for a golf cart!!

[Blake Foster]

How many till the Fleet Insurance kicks in???

[Sieg]

She wants to scream around in the R8 Spyder....

I'm thinking more like a Datsun B210 or Miata!

LOLHmmm...........one side-swipe of the R8 covers the cost of a really good track day Mita yes?

The tension (mental/physical) of worrying about damaging an expensive vehicle detracts from the essence of driving at track days........at least you could attempt that sales pitch. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Hmmm...........one side-swipe of the R8 covers the cost of a really good track day Mita yes?

The tension (mental/physical) of worrying about damaging an expensive vehicle detracts from the essence of driving at track days........at least you could attempt that sales pitch. :unibrow:

Worrying about what exactly? I'm not driving it..... That's HER problem!

:unibrow:

[GregWeld]

How many till the Fleet Insurance kicks in???

After 8 and I hit that marker long ago! :rolleyes:

[GregWeld]

Congrats on your new rig.. Make sure to save room for a golf cart!!



Got that covered!!



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/51j63Pr2oTL_SL500_AA300_.jpg

[ironworks]

Got that covered!!



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/51j63Pr2oTL_SL500_AA300_.jpg

What is Skip now helping you with pictures for your posts also? Or did he Hack your account?

[Sieg]

Worrying about what exactly? I'm not driving it..... That's HER problem!

:unibrow:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[GregWeld]

I had no idea how much work it would take to order one of these rigs! Of course... I'm making it more work than it should have to be because of the choice to do all custom built. But what the heck -- I think everyone should get what they want -- and not settle -- and not get what they DO NOT want.

Between the trailer -- and the options and choices on the toter -- it's amazing all the little things to discuss.

Came up with a 36' gooseneck stacker -- which gives me 36' of upper deck -- which will take the Mustang and the '32 and have 2' of dead space between the rear - the middle and the front... both of these cars are only 51 or 52" tall -- and the upper deck is 57". Since I'm doing an "internal" lift -- I can actually vary that space for the car on the back end a little.

I measured the MBZ -- that big ole POS is 17' long and 58" tall -- so it will have to ride on the main deck... which will be 28' -- and that's plenty with cabinets etc up front... and room for spare tires etc.

The tailgate is hydraulic -- but that's just to open and close since it's not a lift gate.

I'm also having two axles -- @ 14,000# each -- and 22.5" wheels... and they'll be spread axles.

I'll have a better idea -- and a line item list -- on Tuesday for all the other stuff. I have to tell you guys -- this is kinda fun to say the least! And I can assure you that we'll all put this bad boy to good use!

:cheers: :unibrow:

[camcojb]

I had no idea how much work it would take to order one of these rigs! Of course... I'm making it more work than it should have to be because of the choice to do all custom built. But what the heck -- I think everyone should get what they want -- and not settle -- and not get what they DO NOT want.

Between the trailer -- and the options and choices on the toter -- it's amazing all the little things to discuss.

Came up with a 36' gooseneck stacker -- which gives me 36' of upper deck -- which will take the Mustang and the '32 and have 2' of dead space between the rear - the middle and the front... both of these cars are only 51 or 52" tall -- and the upper deck is 57". Since I'm doing an "internal" lift -- I can actually vary that space for the car on the back end a little.

I measured the MBZ -- that big ole POS is 17' long and 58" tall -- so it will have to ride on the main deck... which will be 28' -- and that's plenty with cabinets etc up front... and room for spare tires etc.

The tailgate is hydraulic -- but that's just to open and close since it's not a lift gate.

I'm also having two axles -- @ 14,000# each -- and 22.5" wheels... and they'll be spread axles.

I'll have a better idea -- and a line item list -- on Tuesday for all the other stuff. I have to tell you guys -- this is kinda fun to say the least! And I can assure you that we'll all put this bad boy to good use!

:cheers: :unibrow:

congrats Greg, you'll have a ball with this setup. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

congrats Greg, you'll have a ball with this setup. :thumbsup:

Thanks Jody!

Last week was a classic example of where we would have used it -- I'd have stayed in Scottsdale and then headed over for Del Mar... then... who knows where but it would have been in the SUN! Not rusting away up here!

Probably would have called Charley to see if I could leave it there - and back the MBZ out and head home - then back down for April Thunderhill event. :woot: Not sure I can afford the rent he would want to charge me though. :rolleyes:

[camcojb]

Thanks Jody!

Last week was a classic example of where we would have used it -- I'd have stayed in Scottsdale and then headed over for Del Mar... then... who knows where but it would have been in the SUN! Not rusting away up here!

Probably would have called Charley to see if I could leave it there - and back the MBZ out and head home - then back down for April Thunderhill event. :woot: Not sure I can afford the rent he would want to charge me though. :rolleyes:

he loves you man.............. he'd never charge you rent. :lol:

[Roadbuster]

I had no idea how much work it would take to order one of these rigs! Of course... I'm making it more work than it should have to be because of the choice to do all custom built. But what the heck -- I think everyone should get what they want -- and not settle -- and not get what they DO NOT want.

Between the trailer -- and the options and choices on the toter -- it's amazing all the little things to discuss.

Came up with a 36' gooseneck stacker -- which gives me 36' of upper deck -- which will take the Mustang and the '32 and have 2' of dead space between the rear - the middle and the front... both of these cars are only 51 or 52" tall -- and the upper deck is 57". Since I'm doing an "internal" lift -- I can actually vary that space for the car on the back end a little.

I measured the MBZ -- that big ole POS is 17' long and 58" tall -- so it will have to ride on the main deck... which will be 28' -- and that's plenty with cabinets etc up front... and room for spare tires etc.

The tailgate is hydraulic -- but that's just to open and close since it's not a lift gate.

I'm also having two axles -- @ 14,000# each -- and 22.5" wheels... and they'll be spread axles.

I'll have a better idea -- and a line item list -- on Tuesday for all the other stuff. I have to tell you guys -- this is kinda fun to say the least! And I can assure you that we'll all put this bad boy to good use!

:cheers: :unibrow:

Dang Greg! That is a huge rig! When you said stacker, I thought 2 cars not 3 and a half!

[Sieg]

Greg, if I can help you out in the flooring options/selection process I'd be glad to consult. Having functional yet stylish products in RV's insures positive first impressions (owner & guests) and reduces the maintenance, cleaning, and replacement cycles. Traffic is very concentrated in the confined spaces of RV's so soiling and wear is accelerated compared to normal/typical residential and commercial applications. The objective is more time recreating and less maintaining and upholding the proper Weld image. :D

[GregWeld]

Greg, if I can help you out in the flooring options/selection process I'd be glad to consult. Having functional yet stylish products in RV's insures positive first impressions (owner & guests) and reduces the maintenance, cleaning, and replacement cycles. Traffic is very concentrated in the confined spaces of RV's so soiling and wear is accelerated compared to normal/typical residential and commercial applications. The objective is more time recreating and less maintaining and upholding the proper Weld image. :D



Well thanks for the offer! But they have this stuff down pretty well...


This is the floor I've chosen -- Granite -- and it will have hyrdonic under floor heat...


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/img_4896b.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/img_4940.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/shower_combined.jpg



Trailer - which is their new design with the "full size" tires...



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/_L6T4513-Copy.jpg

[GregWeld]

One thing I'm finding out in this "process" is that there's a whole bunch of regulations to deal with!

Washington allows 75' total combined length.... and California only allows 65' but if I'm licensed in Washington then they go by Washington rules... so I'm okay there.

The problem is a 36' stacker and a 24' toter is over the limit by a lot! So I'm going to have to do some trimming somewhere! The toter, bumper to ball is 40' 6" and the stacker is 36' 7"..... OOPS!

[Sieg]

Like the heat system, doesn't get much better. Granite will only require dust mopping, low maintenance plus. Check out Pacificlooms.com if custom wool rugs of your design interest you. The only concern I see is the shower floor, light colors like that collect foot oils which show as dark, also that type of tile can have high/low pressure points which may result in "stingers" that make you say *@!#.

Overall it looks VERY impressive!

The surface area of those trailer sides says billboard revenue........Ironworks? :unibrow:

[96z28ss]

so you only need to trim 2 feet?

[clill]

I think I've created a monster... Next he is gonna need alot bigger shop.

[Ron in SoCal]

That's so awesome Greg. You'll be towing/vacationing/racing in style....:thumbsup:

Well thanks for the offer! But they have this stuff down pretty well...


This is the floor I've chosen -- Granite -- and it will have hyrdonic under floor heat...


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/img_4896b.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/img_4940.jpg



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/shower_combined.jpg



Trailer - which is their new design with the "full size" tires...



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/_L6T4513-Copy.jpg

[Track Junky]

Crown molding and granite? You sure your wife isn't the one choosing the options? :lol: Just kidding Greg. No doubt a beautiful trailer.

[Flash68]

Wow.. Greg that is a home away from home. :D :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

so you only need to trim 2 feet?

Well -- now -- according to the dealer... I figured wrong. You know what they say about measure twice cut once... I like metal because when I cut it too short - I can add some back on!


According to Darryl -- a 22' "box" and a 34' stacker would be only (I say that tongue in cheek) 71.5'

Which means I have some room! I've asked for the overall length of a 24' toter and a 36' stacker. We'll have to wait for an answer.

[GregWeld]

I think I've created a monster... Next he is gonna need alot bigger shop.

Yes you did!! Dang you!! You asked for it.... so I'm just keeping up my end. :faint: :rolleyes:

[GregWeld]

Crown molding and granite? You sure your wife isn't the one choosing the options? :lol: Just kidding Greg. No doubt a beautiful trailer.

G --- Actually --- She went with me (twice) to look at this stuff while we were at Bondurant... and you're right! She wants it "nice" if she's going to go with me once in awhile.


Funny --- she was very apprehensive about going to Bondurant! Once there -- they do their magic... She drove for 3 days (High Performance Driving School). On Friday when she went for a walk with her GF down there she said she was trying to clip the apexes! And had dreamed all night about heel and toe..

But the best thing is -- she finally understood the "addiction". :woot:

[GregWeld]

Charley.... Look at it this way...

I'll park the big ole POS at your place (indoors btw) and then I can just fly in and out... you bring the rig with both Mustangs and a Busch Cup car...


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :woot:

[clill]

as soon as the title shows up in my name...

[camcojb]

Charley.... Look at it this way...

I'll park the big ole POS at your place (indoors btw) and then I can just fly in and out... you bring the rig with both Mustangs and a Busch Cup car...


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :woot:

what Charley needs to do is pour a concrete driveway around to the backside of the big shop, so you can just pull through to park it without having to drive over any dirt. :yes: :D

[GregWeld]

as soon as the title shows up in my name...



Okay.... As soon as I get mine... you'll get yours.

:D

[GregWeld]

what Charley needs to do is pour a concrete driveway around to the backside of the big shop, so you can just pull through to park it without having to drive over any dirt. :yes: :D



Exactly what I was thinking!


He's got until August to get 'er done! That way we can spend quality time together on my way to Bakertucky!

[Sieg]

But the best thing is -- she finally understood the "addiction". :woot:

That's Awesome!

Right until you can't beat her lap times on a consistant basis. :rofl:

[Track Junky]

G --- Actually --- She went with me (twice) to look at this stuff while we were at Bondurant... and you're right! She wants it "nice" if she's going to go with me once in awhile.


Funny --- she was very apprehensive about going to Bondurant! Once there -- they do their magic... She drove for 3 days (High Performance Driving School). On Friday when she went for a walk with her GF down there she said she was trying to clip the apexes! And had dreamed all night about heel and toe..

But the best thing is -- she finally understood the "addiction". :woot:

Thats awesome buddy. Your a lucky guy. Good thing you took Gwen to Bondurant with you. :thumbsup: You guy's need help with that concrete slab give me a jingle. Best time to place concrete will be when the weather isn't too hot if your placing a large slab. I think Woodland is about an hour away from me.

[fleetus macmullitz]

what Charley needs to do is pour a concrete driveway around to the backside of the big shop, so you can just pull through to park it without having to drive over any dirt. :yes: :D

:lol:


Now who's gonna pic up the tab for the civil engineers required to ensure safe traversing/parking of that pig on Charlie's lilly pad?

[Track Junky]

:lol:


Now who's gonna pic up the tab for the civil engineers required to ensure safe traversing/parking of that pig on Charlie's lilly pad?

No civil engineers needed. Just a bobcat, builders level, and a kick ass contractor such as myself. :D

I recommend a 5" thick slab, 6 sack mix of concrete, with 2" of gravel underneath with wire mesh. I can do it for $4/sf and have her done in two days.

[clill]

If you google earth 35222 County Road 24 Woodland you will see I am already owned by a concrete guy.

[camcojb]

If you google earth 35222 County Road 24 Woodland you will see I am already owned by a concrete guy.

so when are you scheduling the work? Can I come and watch? :D

[Track Junky]

Darn! A missed opportunity to check out that killer collection of yours.

[Bucketlist2012]

Damn this thread.....

Now I have something else on my List to buy...

Not ready to buy, But I didn't know I wanted one until today...

Storage, Garage, Transport, Hotel....All in one ?

Yep, on the list now..

[camcojb]

Damn this thread.....

Now I have something else on my List to buy...

Not ready to buy, But I didn't know I wanted one until today...

Storage, Garage, Transport, Hotel....All in one ?

Yep, on the list now..

Got to stay out of Greg's threads, they'll cost you money. :lol:

[Vegas69]

Personally, I think dark flooring in a car rig is a mistake. The foot prints and dirt will drive you nuts. You won't be camping at the 4 seasons all the time.:D

[fleetus macmullitz]

Got to stay out of Greg's threads, they'll cost you money. :lol:

And lots and lots of time............


:woot:

[mdprovee]

Hey Greg,

What date are you coming to Thunderhill? Maybe come watch you.

[clill]

Shelby Club deal on April 28-29

[GregWeld]

Mike ----

What Charley said... end of April.




Todd ----

I don't think it's going to matter what kind of floor or what color it is. It's going to be filthy at a track event. I just figured the granite would be easier to mop up and it might hold up better in the long run. The "standard" is carpet and wood... and that, I think, would be a big mistake. But you've got me thinking now.

[GregWeld]

Damn this thread.....

Now I have something else on my List to buy...

Not ready to buy, But I didn't know I wanted one until today...

Storage, Garage, Transport, Hotel....All in one ?

Yep, on the list now..

I've been kicking this around for AT LEAST 5 years now.... doing a bigger trailer -- with living quarters -- or just doing what's "normal" which is the way I've been doing it, i.e., a truck and trailer and hotel rooms.

Now that Gwen is retired... we're going to try to use show dates and track dates as an "excuse" to get out of the Pacific NorthWet in the winter... and be able to just come and go as we please. I'm a bit "nomadic" and am thinking that I'd use this rig the same way we used to use our boat. Or at least I'm hoping that's the case... and that the hassle factor of a rig this size is offset by the "go where I want when I want stay as long as I want".

Last week, for an example, I'd have stayed in Scottsdale a couple more days -- then headed for Del Mar Nats... then gone home up the coast. I'd have had the track car - the hot rod - and the regular car with me... Gwen would have flown home - and I'd have been a free man! :lol: :thumbsup:

[clill]

Is Gwen gonna punch me or hug me for getting you out of the house ....

[mdprovee]

Mike ----

What Charley said... end of April.






Greg, we are going to try and come on watch on Saturday.

[Vegas69]

A neutral stone like travertine or even granite would be a lot less work. No matter where you camp, you will be in and out of the rig more than you think. Also, i'm sure you will have plenty of visitors at events. I wouldn't have black floors in my house.

[Sieg]

A neutral stone like travertine or even granite would be a lot less work. No matter where you camp, you will be in and out of the rig more than you think. Also, i'm sure you will have plenty of visitors at events. I wouldn't have black floors in my house.Downside to travertine is KoolAid stains it real easy. :D

Agree on the dark color and dust those it is easier to dust mop than damp mop. One issue to consider with natural stone is it can be like black-ice when wearing socks. Those issues can be offset with area and runner rugs though. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Is Gwen gonna punch me or hug me for getting you out of the house ....

After all the money you've cost her? Remember to duck!

[intocarss]

I've been kicking this around for AT LEAST 5 years now.... doing a bigger trailer -- with living quarters -- or just doing what's "normal" which is the way I've been doing it, i.e., a truck and trailer and hotel rooms.

Now that Gwen is retired... we're going to try to use show dates and track dates as an "excuse" to get out of the Pacific NorthWet in the winter... and be able to just come and go as we please. I'm a bit "nomadic" and am thinking that I'd use this rig the same way we used to use our boat. Or at least I'm hoping that's the case... and that the hassle factor of a rig this size is offset by the "go where I want when I want stay as long as I want".

Last week, for an example, I'd have stayed in Scottsdale a couple more days -- then headed for Del Mar Nats... then gone home up the coast. I'd have had the track car - the hot rod - and the regular car with me... Gwen would have flown home - and I'd have been a free man! :lol: :thumbsup:

Makes sense.... My buddy has a set up like the one you're getting and he and his wife (doggies included) takes off racing across the country when ever he feels like it.

He used to do it with a P/U and enclosed. Then he realized by the time you plan your route, book hotel rooms, find places to eat etc..... the Totor home and trailer saved time, effort and a lot of hassle, not to mention he can go and see whatever he wants in this great land of ours anytime he wants in between races

[GregWeld]

That's EXACTLY what and why I have wanted one. The hotels along the Interstate suck... and finding a spot to park the dually and my trailer.. unload it ... load it back up at O'dark thirty.

And having the hot rod and the track car etc would just be the best of all worlds... go anywhere - do whatever...

Okay - I've sold myself on this idea again! Thanks!

:rofl: :rofl:

[96z28ss]

No more LaQuinta's for you?

[RECOVERY ROOM]

And I thought all the ideas came from Holiday Inn Express's, not La Quinta

[GregWeld]

No more LaQuinta's for you?

Oh gawd... I got a belly laugh out of that!

Tell ya what -- I'll be happy to stay in the rig in the parking lot!

No more "Welcome Mister Weld" on the bulletin board for me!

[96z28ss]

Are you coming to PIR for the Shelby club on April 30th?
If you decide to do it I'll come and watch and pit crew for you.

[Track Junky]

A neutral stone like travertine or even granite would be a lot less work. No matter where you camp, you will be in and out of the rig more than you think. Also, i'm sure you will have plenty of visitors at events. I wouldn't have black floors in my house.

Travertine is a soft high maintenance stone. Something in the color tone of travertine would look nice but not a good idea to use for a trailer.

[GregWeld]

Are you coming to PIR for the Shelby club on April 30th?
If you decide to do it I'll come and watch and pit crew for you.

No -- Charley and his buddies (Pete and Chet) and I are doing Thunderhill that weekend. I even see that Jack M signed up to be there - and he's the one that built my car so it will be fun to meet him.

[GregWeld]

Travertine is a soft high maintenance stone. Something in the color tone of travertine would look nice but not a good idea to use for a trailer.

I think we've found the chink in Todds armor... flooring choices!

:woot:

[intocarss]

Another good point...You dont leave your stuff unattended at night!!


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/NeverMindTheDog.jpg

:unibrow:

[Vegas69]

I thought about that after I posted. Travertine like....:unibrow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

After all the money you've cost her? Remember to duck!

Better than spending your own money on it. You sure dodged that bullet. Smart, very smart.


:lol:

[Sieg]

I thought about that after I posted. Travertine like....:unibrow:

We are experiencing very good performance and customer satisfaction with this Armstrong product: http://www.armstrong.com/flooring/alterna-qr.html

It's a spin-off of Congoleum's DuraCeramic http://congoleum.com/dura.html which we have been installing in our market for 4 years now. We've actually layed it over a couple ceramic tile floors with success, definite improvement in appearance and sensory perception. 50-65% thinner than average tile, better accoustics, will handle minor subfloor defection without cracking, sand latex grout system.

It would enhance the Toterhomes HP to weight ratio while resisting torsional flex under extreme cornering loads. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Initial drawing of the Toter.....


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/Toter.jpg

[GregWeld]

Thinking about painting the entire rig PPG Barcelona Blue.... with polished stainless steel down the bottom 2' - and a stainless steel beavertail door....


Here's the color.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/37%20Minotti/IMG_0873.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

I thought Gwen would be the voice of reason in color choice and stop fightin' the trends ...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/lexus-ls460-brown.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/?action=view&current=lexus-ls460-brown.jpg)

[clill]

I want details on the outside entertainment center, TV, Bar-b-q etc...

[fleetus macmullitz]

Greg, it's gotta be hard work making sure home, shed and toter exteriors don't clash! :_paranoid


:lol:

[GregWeld]

I want details on the outside entertainment center, TV, Bar-b-q etc...

You're killin' me!

[GregWeld]

I thought Gwen would be the voice of reason in color choice and stop fightin' the trends ...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/lexus-ls460-brown.jpg (http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/?action=view&current=lexus-ls460-brown.jpg)



I can't imagine spraying this much surface area -- with metallic... it ain't gonna happen. Ya think that's why they do all that "tribal" crap on motorhomes?

:wow: :faint:

[sik68]

My parents put an outside entertainment center in the awning side of their RV. "Nothing too crazy" Just a 20" tv, an Xbox, a deck, and a couple 8" speakers... I must say it turns a lot of heads, and is great when you want some outside music in the evenings while cooking dinner, etc. There's nothing more embarrassing than a boom box at a camp site!

Greg, it is also a seller if you're trying to get the grandkids to come along. :unibrow:

You won't see me towing to the track with it anytime soon...my dad won't let me within 10 feet of the captain's chair, haha.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I can't imagine spraying this much surface area -- with metallic... it ain't gonna happen. Ya think that's why they do all that "tribal" crap on motorhomes?

:wow: :faint:

I think that color is designed to discourage toterjackers...

lol

[96z28ss]

I think Charlie is getting a big kick out of trying to spend your money. LOL

[GregWeld]

My parents put an outside entertainment center in the awning side of their RV. "Nothing too crazy" Just a 20" tv, an Xbox, a deck, and a couple 8" speakers... I must say it turns a lot of heads, and is great when you want some outside music in the evenings while cooking dinner, etc. There's nothing more embarrassing than a boom box at a camp site!

Greg, it is also a seller if you're trying to get the grandkids to come along. :unibrow:

You won't see me towing to the track with it anytime soon...my dad won't let me within 10 feet of the captain's chair, haha.



I totally get the slide out gas bbq -- and having been a large boat owner for many years - totally get the additional freezer/refer slide out... but a TV? Not happening. #1 if I was in the spot next to the guy with the stereo on or his TV going -- I'd go inside - grab the 9 and start blasting it...

There's two tv's INSIDE - where nobody else can hear them.... unless they want to. Good enough. There's a stereo IN the trailer.... NO speakers outside.

If Charley wants to watch TV -- he'll have to bring his own - or go home... 'cause I'm not letting him inside. :lol: The sani cans are across the parking lot...

[GregWeld]

Note to Charley:


Will trade TV and potty privileges for parking.....



:woot:

[Sieg]

Greg..........I think you've been one-upped.

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Photography/Just-Because/i-S3LHSMB/0/L/IMAG1956-L.jpg

:woot: :woot:

[GregWeld]

Nah.... the curbing in front of my dump is painted.....



:lol:




Greg..........I think you've been one-upped.

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Photography/Just-Because/i-S3LHSMB/0/L/IMAG1956-L.jpg

:woot: :woot:

[clill]

Dude...You get the outside TV to watch the replay of the in car camera etc. Or maybe a big race is on that we all want to watch. Quit being a cheapass...

[GregWeld]

Dude...You get the outside TV to watch the replay of the in car camera etc. Or maybe a big race is on that we all want to watch. Quit being a cheapass...




FINE!

[clill]

Ha !!!!

[sik68]

You won't regret it! And you can always just lock it up when you want to see Mr. Lillard walk away with a pouty face. :lol: Extra entertainment value.

[GregWeld]

Ha !!!!



I was looking at Google Earth.... Can you have someone come and "bell out" the driveway where it meets County Rd 24? I'm not sure I can make that turn without running over that pink flowering ground cover stuff. Maybe have them move the mailbox too.

[96z28ss]

yep Charlie is having alot of fun

[fleetus macmullitz]

I was looking at Google Earth.... Can you have someone come and "bell out" the driveway where it meets County Rd 24? I'm not sure I can make that turn without running over that pink flowering ground cover stuff. Maybe have them move the mailbox too.

No man has protected the use of his turlet this much since...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/who1.jpg

[GregWeld]

Okay -- Here's some more preliminary drawings.....

I had to shorten the trailer to 34' from 36' -- in order to keep the larger 24' toter home....


Don't ask me where they got "CADILLAC" in there...



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/IT34LGXELEVATIONScopy.jpg


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/IT34LGXFLOORPLANcopy.jpg



This thing is HUGE..... and is now ONE EIGHTH OF AN INCH UNDER THE 75' Washington state limit.


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/IT34LGXOVERALLLENGTHcopy.jpg

[Sieg]

Wowzers!

Is there a whale washing service in your area?

[GregWeld]

Choooooooo Choooooooooo chugga chugga chug......

[Vegas69]

I'm glad to see you are outgunning Rodger on the RIG. Are we on the Nascar schedule next year or did I miss the memo? :unibrow: :rofl:

[GregWeld]

Kelli wants to have a nice place to hang.....

[srh3trinity]

I think you should paint the western mural from Snowman's rig in Smokey and the Bandit on the trailer. If you are spending all of this money, you want the outside to be just as classy as the inside.

[GregWeld]

I think you should paint the western mural from Snowman's rig in Smokey and the Bandit on the trailer. If you are spending all of this money, you want the outside to be just as classy as the inside.



Yeah -- I'm going to have some tweaker taggers in the area do some "artwork" on it. :cheers:

[GregWeld]

I'm glad to see you are outgunning Rodger on the RIG. Are we on the Nascar schedule next year or did I miss the memo? :unibrow: :rofl:






Mine's bigger...



"we"? :_paranoid

[carbuff]

Perhaps I missed it somewhere, but do you have to get special licensing to drive that rig? That joker is a monster, hope you make it down to RTTA again next year in it. :)

[GregWeld]

Perhaps I missed it somewhere, but do you have to get special licensing to drive that rig? That joker is a monster, hope you make it down to RTTA again next year in it. :)

As long as it's not COMMERCIAL - which it's not... we do not have to do anything special in WASHINGTON... and that's the state where it'll be registered to... and my license is from.

Yes -- I agree -- it's gotten to be a bit of a monster. Originally I had envisioned a 17' toter (same Freightliner Cascadia class 8 truck)... and a 36' stacker. But like most things "automotive" -- you start poking around and then things tend to get bigger!

Once I saw that you could get a queen sized "bedroom" it was game over.... that meant it had to be a 22' 'box' - then for 2 more feet - you get the galley all on one side and the larger push out on the opposite side. Once you've been inside. You can no longer "live with" the 17' or even the 19'.

I had to shrink the stacker 2' in order to stay legal... and I didn't even want to do that.

[carbuff]

Will you go through any kind of special class/course to learn to drive a rig like that? I wouldn't think it would be something you just pick up and drive. ;-)

[GregWeld]

Will you go through any kind of special class/course to learn to drive a rig like that? I wouldn't think it would be something you just pick up and drive. ;-)

It's only 20' longer than what I drive now. My plan is to pick it up at the factory and then cruise through New York City. If I survive that. I'll bring it home. Hahahahahahaha

[clill]

Man I'm lovin this....

[Sieg]

Man I'm lovin this....

In how many ways? :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Man I'm lovin this....



You better get that driveway widened -- pour it a bit thicker too with lots of #4 rebar. This thing is HEAVY. Widen it out at the street so I can come in from either direction... and have 'em move the mailbox back out of the way.

Do you think the neighbor would mind if I used his (your) dragstrip to spend a couple nights once or twice a month?

[ironworks]

What are you looking at for weight on this rig? What axles are under the trailer? Be sure it is plenty. It needs real tires not this cheap 7000lbs axle stuff. It needs big truck stuff.

[GregWeld]

What are you looking at for weight on this rig? What axles are under the trailer? Be sure it is plenty. It needs real tires not this cheap 7000lbs axle stuff. It needs big truck stuff.

Trailer has two 14,000# axles with 22.5" wheels and commercial truck tires. The trailer is all aluminum.

[ironworks]

Trailer has two 14,000# axles with 22.5" wheels and commercial truck tires. The trailer is all aluminum.

Perfect

[GregWeld]

Perfect

I don't know if it's the right thing to do or not - but I had them delete the 12KW diesel genset and the BARD A/C unit in the trailer. I'll never use it. I had them ADD a 50 amp "shore power" cord and outlet to jack the power from the Toter genset. There is a 4hp compressor on board... so that would be the big power draw.

I thought about leaving the genset etc -- but that's "pro racer boy" stuff - where they'd be working in the trailer. I'm not going to be hanging out in there... or working in there. If the car is broken - it'll just get loaded up and fixed when I get home. Or I drop it at Charley's and let him fix it. :hail: :rofl:

Why carry around all that weight - 37 gal diesel fuel tank - generator - A/C unit for "nothing". If I want to be cool - I can go inside the toter.

[GregWeld]

I was just informed that the truck is now going to use a 600hp Cummins ISX motor -- not the 525hp version.


Oh my.....




:rofl:

[camcojb]

I was just informed that the truck is now going to use a 600hp Cummins ISX motor -- not the 525hp version.


Oh my.....




:rofl:
:morepower :cheering:

[GregWeld]

Charley doesn't care about power ----- here's what he's looking for!!





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/25646918-152-undefined.jpg

[ironworks]

Exhaust Fans up stairs are super important. I was working up stairs in my hauler this winter when it was like 40 degrees outside sweating my ass off. Roof vents with fans is plenty the AC is kinda over kill for the once a year you will use it. If it's hot go in the Toter. 110 plugs in the wall everywhere is the most important. We plug fans in upstairs at the shows before start to tear down. Air flow up stairs in super important.

[clill]

Charley doesn't care about power ----- here's what he's looking for!!





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/25646918-152-undefined.jpg

Now were talkin...

[Sieg]

I was just informed that the truck is now going to use a 600hp Cummins ISX motor -- not the 525hp version.
Hopefully it's not IRS. :_paranoid

[carbuff]

Hopefully it's not IRS. :_paranoid

Oof, ouch! :)

[Ron in SoCal]

Hopefully it's not IRS. :_paranoid

Yeah, but the real question is - who you gonna get the wheels from? :lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Yeah, but the real question is - who you gonna get the wheels from? :lol:

That's got my nomination for Lat-g's Sunday's Spankin' Award'!

:woot:

[force-fed-snake]

can intro custom build 22.5's??

[GregWeld]

can intro custom build 22.5's??

I'm thinking about making the stacker a donk.... and goin' with some 30's

[Vegas69]

Only you could afford somthing so f'n stupid. :unibrow: :cheers:

[GregWeld]

Only you could afford somthing so f'n stupid. :unibrow: :cheers:




:rofl: :woot:

[Vegas69]

ASSHOLE :cheers:

[Tom.A]

This should be some rig. I just took a peek at Racingjunk to see what a basic toter home sells for used that is several years old:wow: I am guessing you could have bought two more R8's and then some. I look forward to the pictures:thumbsup:

[force-fed-snake]

I'm thinking about making the stacker a donk.... and goin' with some 30's

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/671/26duallywheel.jpg

26's are it for 10 lugs... im sure the load rating of the rubber band wont be an issue either:unibrow:

[GregWeld]

This should be some rig. I just took a peek at Racingjunk to see what a basic toter home sells for used that is several years old:wow: I am guessing you could have bought two more R8's and then some. I look forward to the pictures:thumbsup:



Charley is still in the "easy monetary" stage... and I can get a 3/1 ARM with no money down... and borrow 110% so I can fuel it for the first 4 months.


There's no bubble in the toter home biz yet.

[GregWeld]

Just for Charley I'm having "Girard" awnings on all sides of the trailer and the toter -- figure about 8 football fields of shade... in a checkered pattern of course!

Actually = I lied = I can only get solid color awnings... so sorry Charley -- No checkered flag awning for ya!

Think with the PPG Barcelona Blue -- like the '32 Ford I posted -- I'll do an off white or tan color...

[Sieg]

Consider tan, it will age gracefully and still reflect heat.

Maybe a checkered chair to make Charlie feel extra special. :D

[GregWeld]

Consider tan, it will age gracefully and still reflect heat.

Maybe a checkered chair to make Charlie feel extra special. :D



That big lummox has his own chair he brings to the track.... He even let me sit in it once.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trip%20to%20Arizona/IMG_0525.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

Greg,

These cooling, senior friendly awnings you're adding will wisely attract pro-touring type shuffle-boarders.

They'll be a calming effect on this hobby, which seems to need their age marked/sun spotted yet steady hands right now.

[Sieg]

Steal it, find the right fabric and take it to the upholstery shop!!!!

That's exactly the chair I thought of. :rofl:

[GregWeld]

Okay -- I finalized the plans for "da rig" so in 18 weeks we should have birth of this whale....


I just have to find some hot rod flames for the front of the tractor that I like... and maybe I'll do them and maybe not. Have to see it done graphically FIRST... I must be from Missouri.


If I'm lucky I might have it in time for the Buttonwillow track day in September.

[Track Junky]

Congratulation's Greg. I'm sure it wasn't easy finalizing all of your options but I bet it was fun. Hope the construction phase runs smoothly for you. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Thanks Gae!


It's fun -- but there's LOTS of choices and options... and having never had one before leaves me at a bit of a disadvantage. It's hard to know what you'll use and what you won't and HOW you're going to use it... so I've kind of taken the "better to have it and not need it... than need it and not have it" approach.

It's the BIG things I don't want to get wrong... thus the increase to the 600 HP Cummins ISX motor --- and upgraded to the ALLISON automatic transmission etc.

I trust the dealership/salesman... they are experts -- I like working with him so also have to put a lot of trust in his guidance.

[Flash68]

the 600 HP Cummins ISX motor --- and upgraded to the ALLISON automatic transmission etc.



Sounds like a nice powerplant for that Impala of yours. :D

Yeah I agree - I'd go crazy trying to decided on the million options.:willy:

[Track Junky]

Just think of it as a mobile home away from home with the bonus of being able to take your toys with you and you should be in good shape. I would think the most important things to know would be your utility and waste hook ups and knowing the locations to dump the latter. Everything else is just a bonus.
If I could afford one of those bad boys I dont think I'd ever come home. :lol:

[sik68]

Congrats on placing the order!

We have a family friend who lives in CA but took delivery out of state...there was an idle period where it had to stay out of CA, and then they didn't pay sales tax on their 43 footer. Wondering if WA gives you has that same loophole? Ever heard of this?

[Flash68]

Congrats on placing the order!

We have a family friend who lives in CA but took delivery out of state...there was an idle period where it had to stay out of CA, and then they didn't pay sales tax on their 43 footer. Wondering if WA gives you has that same loophole? Ever heard of this?

Ha, I know people who've used that trick with delivery of engagement rings.

[GregWeld]

Just think of it as a mobile home away from home with the bonus of being able to take your toys with you and you should be in good shape. I would think the most important things to know would be your utility and waste hook ups and knowing the locations to dump the latter. Everything else is just a bonus.
If I could afford one of those bad boys I dont think I'd ever come home. :lol:

The whole time I've been here in Washington DC I've been thinking about running Watkins Glen! Making big plans for big road tripping'!

:woot: :cheers:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Ha, I know people who've used that trick with delivery of engagement rings.

Some of 'em come with a little red dot on 'em though. :_paranoid

The whole time I've been here in Washington DC I've been thinking about running Watkins Glen! Making big plans for big road tripping'!

:woot: :cheers:

Welcome citizen!

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Amazing performance by Sinatra by the way on this one...

[Track Junky]

The whole time I've been here in Washington DC I've been thinking about running Watkins Glen! Making big plans for big road tripping'!

:woot: :cheers:

Wow, that will be awesome!! So, I have to ask, what does Gwen think of all of this? Will she be coming with?

[GregWeld]

She had a great time at Bondurant.... and will make some track events with me . If the didn't think she would - I'd have gone with a smaller toter and probably a little more utilitarian....

She's going to drive the Mustang (with instructor) at Thunderhill this month... and I'll just hope that Charley doesn't run her off. Or run off with her. :lol:

I sold the idea that this would be similar to our boat... go anywhere - any time - hassle free (ha!) way to mess about the country. We'll just use various "dates" of events (shows or track days) to go somewhere... then mess around going to and from.

If she doesn't like it.... My friends will!

:rofl: