Gooseneck trailer tips

[GregWeld]

The good news so far is -- I've titled and licensed the truck! Wow -- a BUNCH of taxes! Federal tax exceeded 24K and state sales taxes of another 20K...

Then the girl at DOL says I must have a D.O.T. number... and hands me a pamphlet. Crap! Okay -- I come home and go to the website to attempt to register on line for the number. EVERYTHING is asking me about commercial carrier stuff. I give up - - Call the Washington State Patrol... I get the nicest most helpful officer in the entire UNIVERSE!

He tells me I don't need a CDL nor do I need any DOT numbers or anything else special... AS LONG AS I'M NON-Commercial and towing a "recreational vehicle" (lucky I have living quarters) and that I should paint "PRIVATE NOT FOR HIRE" on the doors or side of the tow vehicle. He says that alone will get me a free pass. DONE.

:woot:

[Sieg]

I can make some die-cut not for hire decals for you if you like.

[sik68]

...that I should paint "PRIVATE NOT FOR HIRE" on the doors or side of the tow vehicle. He says that alone will get me a free pass. DONE.

:woot:

I knew those stickers did more than deter riff raff looking to haul their loads. :lol:

[GregWeld]

I can make some die-cut not for hire decals for you if you like.



Hey! Appreciate the offer! But I'll have it painted on.... :woot:

[snappytravis]

I think what I don't like is the grill and lights in the bumper... I think if that was whited out it wouldn't look like such an add-on.


You're right Charlie... somebody might volunteer to photoshop it for me.

Sweet, I think if you were to do something to the bumper have that piece powder coated? I was a snap on dealer and the front of the truck kind of takes a beating, Maybe put clear bra on it? and a couple of the naked lady trucker mudflaps on the back, ( cowboy bling) believe me I live in wyo and see it all, congratulations on the new toy, :yes:

[GregWeld]

I knew those stickers did more than deter riff raff looking to haul their loads. :lol:



What do you think about some signage like: "Ass, Grass, or Gas.... Nobody rides for free"


Would that make me "commercial".... I dunno...:lol:

[GregWeld]

Sweet, I think if you were to do something to the bumper have that piece powder coated? I was a snap on dealer and the front of the truck kind of takes a beating, Maybe put clear bra on it? and a couple of the naked lady trucker mudflaps on the back, ( cowboy bling) believe me I live in wyo and see it all, congratulations on the new toy, :yes:



Yeah -- there's about 2 football fields of flat area on the nose.... The good thing is that I won't put all that much milage on it. I'm thinking if I do 20,000 a year that might be a lot. Hard to tell yet - but it's only a 2,000 mile round trip to go down and bug the hell out of Charlie....

Guess it really depends if Gwen decides she wants to go trailer truckin'.... and I'm thinking probably not much. :unibrow:

[Sieg]

Hey! Appreciate the offer! But I'll have it painted on.... :woot:Welcome, I also have black background magnetic film (sorry no white) if you could get away with magnetic signage.

I have some really special rainbow shaded vinyl too. :unibrow:

That said do you have renderings of the paint scheme to share yet?

Ass gas or grass theme..........
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/366158608_zLJg5-O.jpg

[snappytravis]

Yeah -- there's about 2 football fields of flat area on the nose.... The good thing is that I won't put all that much milage on it. I'm thinking if I do 20,000 a year that might be a lot. Hard to tell yet - but it's only a 2,000 mile round trip to go down and bug the hell out of Charlie....

Guess it really depends if Gwen decides she wants to go trailer truckin'.... and I'm thinking probably not much. :unibrow:

I think that Sieg must be a close friend the way he's bustin your balls with the rainbow cheech and chong sign, If you get bored cruise it up to wyo and we'll take a road trip through the park with a couple of hotrods, Will try to meet you in vegas next week, Grandmaster W.:hail:

[GregWeld]

Welcome, I also have black background magnetic film (sorry no white) if you could get away with magnetic signage.

I have some really special rainbow shaded vinyl too. :unibrow:

That said do you have renderings of the paint scheme to share yet?

Ass gas or grass theme..........
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/366158608_zLJg5-O.jpg



Dude! I already have rainbow flags off both CB antennas! I get lots of honks...

[GregWeld]

I think that Sieg must be a close friend the way he's bustin your balls with the rainbow cheech and chong sign, If you get bored cruise it up to wyo and we'll take a road trip through the park with a couple of hotrods, Will try to meet you in vegas next week, Grandmaster W.:hail:



The Sieg? We had to pull the "T" out of his name 'cause he was driving too fast...


Hopefully you can make the Lat G get-together on Wednesday evening at the Flamingo.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=38246


Everybody but the S (t) ieg will be there!



:cheers:

[Sieg]

The Sieg? We had to pull the "T" out of his name 'cause he was driving too fast...


Hopefully you can make the Lat G get-together on Wednesday evening at the Flamingo.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=38246


Everybody but the S (t) ieg will be there!



:cheers:

Thanks buddy......feelin the love and really wish I could be there!

Hope you all have a great time! :thumbsup:

(and take lots of pictures)

[OLDFLM]

Hey! Appreciate the offer! But I'll have it painted on.... :woot:

Don't forget "STICK!!! You Bitch..." :lateral:

[snappytravis]

The Sieg? We had to pull the "T" out of his name 'cause he was driving too fast...


Hopefully you can make the Lat G get-together on Wednesday evening at the Flamingo.

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=38246


Everybody but the S (t) ieg will be there!



:cheers:

I will plan to attend, as long as I am not in jail by then! will be there monday till friday alot can happen, without adult supervision (wife):unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Found this trailer while just cruising around Racing Junk....


Part of it would be PERFECT for me! A guy that's never seen "enough" tools.... Check out this tool list!!! OMG!! :willy: :lol:


http://www.racingjunk.com/New-Trailers/2261728/CUSTOM-RACE-SUPPORT-TRAILER-TRANSPORTER-SPREA.html?imageIndex=11&showSuperSize=true

[camcojb]

Found this trailer while just cruising around Racing Junk....


Part of it would be PERFECT for me! A guy that's never seen "enough" tools.... Check out this tool list!!! OMG!! :willy: :lol:


http://www.racingjunk.com/New-Trailers/2261728/CUSTOM-RACE-SUPPORT-TRAILER-TRANSPORTER-SPREA.html?imageIndex=11&showSuperSize=true

you'd definitely be the "go to" guy at the track. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

you'd definitely be the "go to" guy at the track. :unibrow:

Yeah --- I sent the link to Charley and said "wouldn't MIKE love this set up!!"


Nasty trailer - but the tool list was/is certainly impressive!


I'm still waiting on all the drawings for mine -- after my trip to the dealer in Chandler and a great discussion about how to "do" mine.... Raising the floor in the living area to get the headroom down to "normal" but giving me bigger tank storage for water/grey water etc... and giving me pullouts for BBQ and Cooler... It was a great idea! So scrapped the plans we had and started over. I'm my own worst enemy! :rofl:

[camcojb]

Yeah --- I sent the link to Charley and said "wouldn't MIKE love this set up!!"


Nasty trailer - but the tool list was/is certainly impressive!


I'm still waiting on all the drawings for mine -- after my trip to the dealer in Chandler and a great discussion about how to "do" mine.... Raising the floor in the living area to get the headroom down to "normal" but giving me bigger tank storage for water/grey water etc... and giving me pullouts for BBQ and Cooler... It was a great idea! So scrapped the plans we had and started over. I'm my own worst enemy! :rofl:

It's like shopping for a house; once you find one you like and you decide to buy it................... quit looking!!!!!! :lol:

[GregWeld]

Well.... This is by far the longest "process" I think I've ever had to go through!

That's the problem when you're trying to do "custom" I guess.

Renegade has now told me that I can't do "living quarters" stacker longer than 44' with my truck and hitch set up. And I hired Mayflower moving to come and check out my street and driveway and they're telling me a 48' is no problem. But now I'm limited once again by the weight and hitch (mini fifth wheel).

So I'm having to split my "I want" list in two parts --- what I want in the garage area and what I'd like in the living quarters. I don't want the garage area to be any smaller than what I have in my current 24' trailer.... That's locked in stone. Any smaller than what I have now would be unusable IMHO. So what get's squeezed is the living quarters. Which leaves only 20' (including the overhang bed room area). We'll make it work - it just won't be as B/A as I wanted. Smaller is actually better for me so I'm okay with that. But what a process. You don't know any of this until you say --- well I want this and this and this.... you wait a month and they say "NO". Crap -- tell me up front so I can work with something!!! Argh!

[GregWeld]

Lucky for me -- I was smart enough to plan ahead a bit when I built "the shed" 8 years ago! The big door (actually my brother in laws suggestion) is exactly the right thing to have put in!!



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-27.jpg




I need to install the CB and a couple of other things -- so since it's suppose to rain about 5" this weekend -- and it's COLD -- It's nice to bring it inside to do that kind of work!!




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-25.jpg

[Blake Foster]

Maybe you need a bigger Truck :rofl: :rofl: :willy: :willy:

[GregWeld]

It does look a bit ridiculous towing the "little" 24' trailer. The truck is as big as the trailer! :willy: :lol:





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-28.jpg

[GregWeld]

Maybe you need a bigger Truck :rofl: :rofl: :willy: :willy:



HEY!!! You have A LOT of work to do... I see boxes of stuff sitting all over the place down there! <remember ROMPER ROOM when she'd look thru the big magnifying glass and call out names?>

[Sieg]

This should help you get up to speed on the CB good buddy. :thumbsup:

HRwiAk2wjZo

[GregWeld]

I needed that refresher! :lol:


Actually -- people make fun of a CB.... But it's really helpful when you need some "truck" info...

I squelch it way tight so I don't hear all the BS... But if there's a wreck ahead etc -- it can be invaluable to help make a decision on exiting and or finding fuel etc.

I'm an old licensed HAM and have always had a soft spot for all things "radio".

[Sieg]

No doubt, they are a great tool on the road. :thumbsup:

[Blake Foster]

HEY!!! You have A LOT of work to do... I see boxes of stuff sitting all over the place down there! <remember ROMPER ROOM when she'd look thru the big magnifying glass and call out names?>

yea it would be nice if some of the ppl we have ordered stuff from like shelving would ship the product so i could unload all the pallets!!!

[youthpastor]

Lucky for me -- I was smart enough to plan ahead a bit when I built "the shed" 8 years ago! The big door (actually my brother in laws suggestion) is exactly the right thing to have put in!!



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-27.jpg




I need to install the CB and a couple of other things -- so since it's suppose to rain about 5" this weekend -- and it's COLD -- It's nice to bring it inside to do that kind of work!!




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-25.jpg

this that Wilson?

nice job on the BIG door, ya it's pretty ugly outside...I'm missing the 80 degree Vegas weather already

[Lenie]

[QUOTE=GregWeld;446878]It does look a bit ridiculous towing the "little" 24' trailer. The truck is as big as the trailer! :willy: :lol:

Trailer's perfect size , you just need a bigger shop now! Great lookin' set up Greg, enjoy.

[GregWeld]

I just today FINALLY got a version of the trailer in prints that I can work with.... now I just have to drill down on some details. Like I told the factory -- Start laying the frame rails!

It took some work to get the plant/management to realize my tractor could haul this... I finally took a picture of the GVWR and rear axle spec etc. :woot:






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-29.jpg

[DBasher]

Wooohooo, Bonneville here we come! Rolling in style next year...wait, you're still going right?

Looking good Greg, did you ever decide on painting the grill? If not I say wait till you've got the entire package together and see how it looks.

Sometimes it's best if you have a friend, or someone you hardly know, drive and you follow down the highway. That way you can see what it looks like rollin down the road, just sayin. :unibrow:

How's it go? Eeeeeeehaaaaawwwww

:cheers:
Dan

[sik68]

Floorplan looks awesome Greg!

I'm sure I'm missing something, but there's no door? That's an awful drastic measure to keep Charlie out.

EDIT: I see, door under the TV. Seems like TV should be centered on the couch!
And while I'm spewing inexperienced advice, it may be nice to have el bano closer to the bedroom and/or closets.

[ccracin]

Greg,

Very nice buddy! Question, is there a regulation that says you can not have a door from the living quarters to the hauler section? I have had this discussion before with mixed answers. I noticed yours does not. Is this for floor space use or due to regulations? Just curious! :thumbsup:

[clill]

Floorplan looks awesome Greg!

I'm sure I'm missing something, but there's no door? That's an awful drastic measure to keep Charlie out.

EDIT: I see, door under the TV. Seems like TV should be centered on the couch!
And while I'm spewing inexperienced advice, it may be nice to have el bano closer to the bedroom and/or closets.

I have a cordless sawzall so no problem for me.

[Track Junky]

Finaly...something tangible to look at :lol: :thumbsup:

[Stuart Adams]

I thought building a house was a long project!!

[GregWeld]

I have a cordless sawzall so no problem for me.



The FRP walls have ballistic material woven in.


Did I tell you I have a Washington and Utah Conceal Carry permit?:woot:

[GregWeld]

I thought building a house was a long project!!



OMG.... YOU THOUGHT? How about me?

I gave a deposit in JULY..... and very LARGE deposit... thinking that I would have a trailer by September.... It's now December and I'm just looking at plans. Of course there was a switch of builders in there as well.

I've never worked so hard to spend money!


:cheers:

[GregWeld]

Greg,

Very nice buddy! Question, is there a regulation that says you can not have a door from the living quarters to the hauler section? I have had this discussion before with mixed answers. I noticed yours does not. Is this for floor space use or due to regulations? Just curious! :thumbsup:



No regulations that I've seen and I've seen plans done that way. I don't want it - it's a waste of valuable wall space. Trust me - this is not exactly flush with space.

I figure I can walk my lazy arse out one door, open the other and go in the garage...

[GregWeld]

Floorplan looks awesome Greg!

I'm sure I'm missing something, but there's no door? That's an awful drastic measure to keep Charlie out.

EDIT: I see, door under the TV. Seems like TV should be centered on the couch!
And while I'm spewing inexperienced advice, it may be nice to have el bano closer to the bedroom and/or closets.


When Charlie uses El Bano -- I don't want it anywhere near my sleeping space!


I'm changing the SOFA to a dinning table and settee... there will be no other sleepers in here except Gwen and I... and I can go lay in my bed if I want to watch TV in the evening... or sit in the settee.... I'd rather have a place I can go in and sit down and read a magazine - eat - or use my laptop WITHOUT having to set up a table - and take the table down - each time I want it. There is NO perfect solution of course - unless I had the footage to do BOTH -- WHICH originally I thought I would. It's all about trade offs. I want a big SEPARATE shower! Not a camper all in one shower/toilet area.

[GregWeld]

Wooohooo, Bonneville here we come! Rolling in style next year...wait, you're still going right?

Looking good Greg, did you ever decide on painting the grill? If not I say wait till you've got the entire package together and see how it looks.

Sometimes it's best if you have a friend, or someone you hardly know, drive and you follow down the highway. That way you can see what it looks like rollin down the road, just sayin. :unibrow:

How's it go? Eeeeeeehaaaaawwwww

:cheers:
Dan



You got it!!!


:cheers: :thumbsup:

[Stuart Adams]

At least you'll be on Medicare when it's done, haha. You know we are looking for a new venue for the lat g party at SEMA. This will work just fine.

[clill]

"Setee" ? Dude...Turn in your man card....

[Sieg]

"Setee" ? Dude...Turn in your man card....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:cheers:

[GregWeld]

"Setee" ? Dude...Turn in your man card....



I didn't know what else to call it!!!


Please accept my resignation. :willy:

[fleet]

Please accept my resignation. :willy:

Didn't you already give it to Gwen? :_paranoid

[GregWeld]

Didn't you already give it to Gwen? :_paranoid



Only when she's around...:cool:

[ironworks]

I just today FINALLY got a version of the trailer in prints that I can work with.... now I just have to drill down on some details. Like I told the factory -- Start laying the frame rails!

It took some work to get the plant/management to realize my tractor could haul this... I finally took a picture of the GVWR and rear axle spec etc. :woot:






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-29.jpg

That is a big ass trailer. I hope you like staying in it at rest stops when on the road. Cuz your not getting that in a camp ground or a hotel parking lot. I have been there done that. Plus your stuck eating at truck friendly restaurant on the road which means the food will suck when traveling.

I like the rest stop sleeping cuz your right back on the road. But late at night it can be tough to find a spot to sleep on the park at sleep along the highway. Between rest stop sleeping and a huge fuel tank you can really put down the miles.

Rodger

[GregWeld]

Do I get my man card back because of SIZE?? :rofl:



Rodger --

The whole reason for this trailer with LQ is to NOT have to go to hotels unless the truck is already at the track etc and I can just back a hot rod or car out and go to one... like when we're all at Thunderhill. AND the fact that I hate "on the road" food... so would be FAR HAPPIER just making my own stuff... and I have a two state (Washington and Utah) concealed carry permit (and the balls to use it) -- due to planning on "off the road" up an exit or whatever sleeping arrangements.

I usually leave Seattle at 4:30AM - and in the winter it's raining and dark and crappy so by the time I've hauled 10 or 12 hours... which puts me in a rest area etc at 5:30 or 6:30PM... That's the beauty of this thing -- I can go and stop where I feel like - without reservations.. Without having to wrestle a parking spot at a hotel and blah blah blah. I figure I'll just back her up into Charley's driveway and camp for the night. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


I can actually make Thunderhill with the truck and trailer in one day - but that gets REAL OLD as I get real old.... and then what I want to be able to do is to leave there and then just fuss around going where I want to. Now with the Sun Valley place -- I might be heading there instead of Seattle... etc.

I tried and tried to make it smaller -- but the living quarters -- or the garage area just gets squeezed to where it doesn't make any sense.

[ironworks]

Do I get my man card back because of SIZE?? :rofl:



Rodger --

The whole reason for this trailer with LQ is to NOT have to go to hotels unless the truck is already at the track etc and I can just back a hot rod or car out and go to one... like when we're all at Thunderhill. AND the fact that I hate "on the road" food... so would be FAR HAPPIER just making my own stuff... and I have a two state (Washington and Utah) concealed carry permit (and the balls to use it) -- due to planning on "off the road" up an exit or whatever sleeping arrangements.

I usually leave Seattle at 4:30AM - and in the winter it's raining and dark and crappy so by the time I've hauled 10 or 12 hours... which puts me in a rest area etc at 5:30 or 6:30PM... That's the beauty of this thing -- I can go and stop where I feel like - without reservations.. Without having to wrestle a parking spot at a hotel and blah blah blah. I figure I'll just back her up into Charley's driveway and camp for the night. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


I can actually make Thunderhill with the truck and trailer in one day - but that gets REAL OLD as I get real old.... and then what I want to be able to do is to leave there and then just fuss around going where I want to. Now with the Sun Valley place -- I might be heading there instead of Seattle... etc.

I tried and tried to make it smaller -- but the living quarters -- or the garage area just gets squeezed to where it doesn't make any sense.

Once you get used to the rig you will be able to practically whip through the drive thru.

Looks like a nice lay out.

[GregWeld]

I could make it 2 or 3 feet shorter if I wanted the lift gate style vs the internal lift... but I don't think the difference between 44 feet vs 47 feet would be worth the ease of use that I "THINK" will come with the internal lift.

The thought of having Charley up in the air trying to hold my car from rolling back off the tailgate just worries be a bit. I question his commitment. :D

[GregWeld]

Well we finally have a final design - equipment list - and a price etc...

So it's game on!


Waiting for a delivery date "promise" now. :woot:

[Lenie]

Congrats Greg, can't wait to see the finished product:thumbsup:

[sik68]

Ready for your rig's annual checkup? :unibrow:

S-VM3lw_jMk

[GregWeld]

I have "people".... No owners of this kind of stuff washes or waxes themselves. They take professional maintenance. So I usually just pull it into Charley's wash shack... :faint: :lol:

[Sieg]

That "people" in the video has you figured out. :D

What's the Mothership's ETA?

[GregWeld]

That "people" in the video has you figured out. :D

What's the Mothership's ETA?


Good question === no answer yet. I've signed all the contracts - signed the design off -- sent lots of money.....

Now we're going to go straight to the factory in Elkhart after GNRS. Then I'll decide on all the little details - interior stuff etc - and when that's done they should be able to guessitmate a completion date. I'm hoping May....

[Stuart Adams]

By the time its done all of us will be using wheelchairs, with modified suspensions of course...

[GregWeld]

Hey! It took me FIVE YEARS just to finally pull the trigger.... so what's another few months? Besides - the longer I can stretch this out - the more page views it gets and eventually I'll be able to top Todd's Payback thread!:woot:

[96z28ss]

Hey! It took me FIVE YEARS just to finally pull the trigger.... so what's another few months? Besides - the longer I can stretch this out - the more page views it gets and eventually I'll be able to top Todd's Payback thread!:woot:

Your investment thread will top the "Payback" thread now that "Payback" has Paid Out!

[Stuart Adams]

Hey! It took me FIVE YEARS just to finally pull the trigger.... so what's another few months? Besides - the longer I can stretch this out - the more page views it gets and eventually I'll be able to top Todd's Payback thread!:woot:

Its all good stuff big boy. You da man.

[GregWeld]

Your investment thread will top the "Payback" thread now that "Payback" has Paid Out!

Bob! That's funny!


Sorta true though huh!


:cheers:

[GregWeld]

Its all good stuff big boy. You da man.



I have to tell you that ordering this thing has been 'fun' because it's exciting... but it's also been a big hassle. My problem is - I have no knowledge base to build on. Only trailers I've had were just '24 TAG type... this thing is a whole 'nother level.

I did a car swap today - using the big rig to tow the current TAG.... that big ol' truck doesn't even recognize there's a trailer back there... :lol: But it sure is fun to drive. I L O V E the huge mirrors!

[GregWeld]

I feel so insignificant.....






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-31.jpg

[Vegas69]

Don't worry, you make up for it in ego. :mock:

[fleet]

I feel so insignificant.....


http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-31.jpg


Does Gwen know? :_paranoid

[GregWeld]

Don't worry, you make up for it in ego. :mock:



I know, right?:lol:




Does Gwen know? :_paranoid




She's in a different state... but I'm certain this isn't self curing.:peepwall:

[fleet]

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-31.jpg

"I feel so insignificant."

But nimble, eh? :D


BTW-I like the pic for the perspective it gives.

[Sieg]

BTW-I like the pic for the perspective it gives.
Sports Car like isn't it? :D

The viewing height has to make for a good touring experience!

[intocarss]

Just like that pic at Daves party

[mdprovee]

Remember Greg, size doesn't matter...thats what the girls say.

[HEEP]

At least the antennas are taller.

HEEP

[GregWeld]

Sports Car like isn't it? :D

The viewing height has to make for a good touring experience!


I know that sounds funny -- but it's the height that makes these things so easy to drive.... you don't have to just react to traffic... you can SEE way down the road and know what's going on. And on the hiway - it's a very relaxed pace compared to the view from a car <think about Go-Karts and how they make you think you're just screaming>.



Just like that pic at Daves party



Pretty much!! :D




Remember Greg, size doesn't matter...thats what the girls say.




I have an old saying about not hitting bottom but scraping the hell out of the sides.... :thumbsup: :D




At least the antennas are taller.

HEEP



I hadn't noticed til you mentioned it --- I'm an old DX'r (and HAM) and bigger antennas are a "must have" as well as other items that go along with that. :D

CQ! CQ! CQ DX!

[GregWeld]

Here's a shot of it in Bakertucky as the sun was setting....




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-34.jpg

[FETorino]

Here's a shot of it in Bakertucky as the sun was setting....



Now you're just showing off :lmao:

That thing even makes Bakertucky look like a hospitable place. There is something about it though that bugs me. Can't put my finger on it. :headscratch:

Maybe the fuel doors?:_paranoid

[GregWeld]

Now you're just showing off :lmao:

That thing even makes Bakertucky look like a hospitable place. There is something about it though that bugs me. Can't put my finger on it. :headscratch:

Maybe the fuel doors?:_paranoid



Personally I think it's ugly as sin... the grill makes it look like a big fat pig. But I can't see that when I'm driving it - so I don't care! LOL


I just emailed the dealer this morning -- told him the tanks will have to be drained and new fill necks WILL get welded on.... AND they WILL pay for it. :bang:

[srh3trinity]

Your own big rig, how cool is that?

[GregWeld]

Your own big rig, how cool is that?



It's okay I guess..... :D

[jimbo]

Needs rims. :D
4mHG7HLRyes#t=2s

[intocarss]

Now you're just showing off :lmao:

There is something about it though that bugs me. Can't put my finger on it. :headscratch:

Maybe the fuel doors?:_paranoid It don't have this on the grill

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ford-logo-jams_zpsda1977e2.jpg

:bitchslap:

[FETorino]

Needs rims. :D


I'm sure GW has some one off wheels coming from INTRO afetr they finish the ones for his 33.:D

It don't have this on the grill

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ford-logo-jams_zpsda1977e2.jpg

:bitchslap:

That should be a requirement on any truck.:lmao:

[Lenie]

Here's a shot of it in Bakertucky as the sun was setting....




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-34.jpg

That's just cool!

[GregWeld]

Needs rims. :D




YOU are just a trouble maker!!:getout:




It don't have this on the grill

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/ford-logo-jams_zpsda1977e2.jpg

:bitchslap:




YOU are even a BIGGER trouble maker!:warning:




I'm sure GW has some one off wheels coming from INTRO afetr they finish the ones for his 33.:D



That should be a requirement on any truck.:lmao:



YOU are a BIGGER TROUBLE MAKER than the other two!!:action-smiley-027:





That's just cool!



Finally a guy I can like! :thumbsup:

[fleet]

Looked through most of this thread. Still haven't seen where they put the 'spit your chew' receptacle?

[GregWeld]

Looked through most of this thread. Still haven't seen where they put the 'spit your chew' receptacle?



The worst part of driving stuff like this -- TRUCK STOPS.... OMG! Just nasty and full of.... well.... never mind.

[srh3trinity]

Watch out for the "lot lizards" at those truck stops

[Sieg]

The worst part of driving stuff like this -- TRUCK STOPS.... OMG! Just nasty and full of.... well.... never mind.

Pacific Pride or CFN account would resolve that. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Headed to the trailer plant (Renegade) on Tuesday -- will finalize all interior selections and any other details that haven't already been worked out.

Delivery date is tentative sometime in JUNE....


I'm good with that. Will give me a chance to go over it with a fine tooth comb and have the factory correct anything I find that I don't like... I'll drive the tractor there to pick it up myself - weather will be good -- and I can haul a couple thousand miles and get used to it.


EEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

[Lenie]

:thumbsup: Can't wait to see this one Greg:popcorn2:

[waynieZ]

Wow Greg I guess I was laid up when you started this thread with the details, I just checked it out. Never came inside before.My eyes are watering from all the reading. That is So Sweet! I'll keep watching from now on. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Well -- better late than never Wayne!!


How is that hip doing by the way??

[waynieZ]

It coming along OK No pain just having a little trouble with the strength on the muscles he had to cut to get it in.. But I'll get it.
Thanks for asking.

[FETorino]

Headed to the trailer plant (Renegade) on Tuesday -- will finalize all interior selections and any other details that haven't already been worked out.

Delivery date is tentative sometime in JUNE....


I'm good with that. Will give me a chance to go over it with a fine tooth comb and have the factory correct anything I find that I don't like... I'll drive the tractor there to pick it up myself - weather will be good -- and I can haul a couple thousand miles and get used to it.


EEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA


I'll e-mail you the Torino dimensions.:unibrow:

[Sieg]

I'll e-mail you the Torino dimensions.:unibrow:If that's the case, hopefully it's too late to upgrade the axles. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

It's got THREE 10,000 pound axles on air ride....


Might not be enough....

[fleet]

It's got THREE 10,000 pound axles on air ride....


Might not be enough....

Exactly, cuz on roadtrips I get tired and crash anywhere. I'd prefer a sturdy, comfy place instead... like what you've got on order. :thankyou:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/DETROITAUTORAMA2011PhotosbyDaveMcKe_zps5ba480d0.jp g

[KPC67]

Greg,
I was reading Jack's forum "darkside" and thought I should apply for your runner up driver.
It will require you to drive north of the border and pick me and my car up and we can head off to power tour from there.
Oh and if you need a resume it is posted below.



http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx299/Kcarter67/file.jpg

I can back this sucker around a corner:action-smiley-027:

[GregWeld]

OMG!!!! Kevin.... Dude!! You're not my runner up -- you're it!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Would you be embarrassed to drive my little M2 though?? The exhaust is hidden underneath and it drinks cat pee... and has an automatic. Kind of a girlie truck.

[KPC67]

OMG!!!! Kevin.... Dude!! You're not my runner up -- you're it!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Would you be embarrassed to drive my little M2 though?? The exhaust is hidden underneath and it drinks cat pee... and has an automatic. Kind of a girlie truck.

Of course not Greg,
actually this one burns urea as well and is an 18spd autoshift as well..
Shhhhhh:rolleyes:
But not to worry I have one that is an 18 spd manual too.

Don't be fooled by the shadow I am only 5'8"

[GregWeld]

On a flight to Chicago as I type this... then the drive to Elkhart, Indiana... Whooohoooooo...... Work tomorrow at the Renegade factory finalizing the various open details. I'm jazzed to see the factory. Hopefully I can sweet talk them into bumping my build up the line and maybe get a May delivery date. Doubtful but I'll still try! :lol:

I think the dealer said my rails are laid up... we shall see.

[KPC67]

Good stuff Greg,
Take some pics if you can:thumbsup:

[intocarss]

Exactly, cuz on roadtrips I get tired and crash anywhere. I'd prefer a sturdy, comfy place instead... like what you've got on order. :thankyou:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/DETROITAUTORAMA2011PhotosbyDaveMcKe_zps5ba480d0.jp g

Cosmo last time you passed out in a strangers Pick um up they drove away with you! :smiley_smack:

[GregWeld]

Welcome to Elkhart in the dead of winter....








http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-38.jpg

[Lenie]

[QUOTE=GregWeld;465884]Welcome to Elkhart in the dead of winter....


Uhhhhhhh.......no thanks, now that you mention it, it does kinda feel like Cali around here:relax:

[KPC67]

looks familiar..
http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx299/Kcarter67/Farm/file.jpg

[GregWeld]

Nice Kevin!


I just texted the dealer (Dave Poulsen) that I hope he brought a shovel. We both have flights out of here tomorrow night from Chicago --- and I have a MINI VAN..... :bang: :D


It sucks to be me right now!

[GregWeld]

Uhhhhhhh.......no thanks, now that you mention it, it does kinda feel like Cali around here:relax:




Come on Lenie! No guts - no glory dude!


:popcorn2:

[KPC67]

Yeah at least I was driving this.:D http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx299/Kcarter67/Farm/file-1.jpg
I was actually out on a tow with it when I took this, so Greg if you need just call me and I will drive down at 24mph and rescue you..

[GregWeld]

I'll sleep better tonight knowing you're just a phone call away!



EEEEEEEEHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA



:thumbsup:

[DaleTx]

Greg… I used to travel to Elkhart quite often for business trips. If you go back again… check into flights to South Bend Indiana rather than Chicago… this saves quite a bit of hassle with driving, traffic, and crowds. I got this tip from my buddies in Elkhart.

Last time I was there the conditions were about the same :D

[Stuart Adams]

Yeah at least I was driving this.:D http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx299/Kcarter67/Farm/file-1.jpg
I was actually out on a tow with it when I took this, so Greg if you need just call me and I will drive down at 24mph and rescue you..

That is sick.

[GregWeld]

Greg… I used to travel to Elkhart quite often for business trips. If you go back again… check into flights to South Bend Indiana rather than Chicago… this saves quite a bit of hassle with driving, traffic, and crowds. I got this tip from my buddies in Elkhart.

Last time I was there the conditions were about the same :D



The dealer flew into South Bend.... I was able to rent a car - have lunch - drive to Elkhart - check into the hotel - and drove back to South Bend Regional Airport and then sat and waited for him to arrive.

I originally tried to fly into SB - but it was just too much effort... and took all day. Whereas flying into Chicago - I had lots of choices of carriers and times... and it was only the one non-stop flight.

Now -- today will be a hassle because it snowed all night... which could make the drive back to Chicago not nearly as much fun. We'll see. Then I might be
wishin' I'd have flown to South Bend!

[fleet]

Traveling half a continent at your age should help sway them into doing a 'May mercy' delivery.

:peepwall:

[Sieg]

Traveling half a continent at your age should help sway them into doing a 'May mercy' delivery.

:peepwall:
That's a possibility, but after today's meeting to "finalize the various open details" I seriously doubt it. This :getout: is always a possibility too. :lmao:

Let's get this thread back off track and talk about something interesting that has a motor..........like Kevin's articulating 535 Case! Hopefully Dave and Greg will pm each other regarding interior the design elements sparing us the hormonal agony of reading about drapes, floors, counters, door knobs, light & plumbing fixtures. :D

:peepwall:

[intocarss]

I want a pic of GW in his Mini Van!!!!!:warning: :guns: :warning:

[FETorino]

I want a pic of GW in his Mini Van!!!!!:warning: :guns: :warning:

It just looks like a normal sized guy standing next to a club wagon.
:popcorn2:

[GregWeld]

Man you guys are brutal..... I take a one day trip and get thrown under the bus!


Siegmiester.... detailed pics of fabrics and granite WILL be posted tomorrow (plane wifi is way to slow)


Rob.... What can I say. The mini gave me shrinkage. Seriously. I've never been so humiliated driving anything before. I don't understand ANYONE ever wanting to actually buy one those things. It's just wrong in so many ways.


Jer.... I couldn't find anyone that was willing to give up his man card snapping photos of me with the mini van. Nobody wanted to be seen as actually wanting to savor such a sight.

[Phaeton]

Hurry up and get your a$$ back. We need a trailer update or 32 update or 33 update or mini semi update or vacation update or 37 update or new wife's car update or mustang update or brothers camaro update or etc etc etc. :mock:

[fleet]

Greg,

We're just glad glad yer alive and well after that unfortunate experience with the minivan.

[GregWeld]

Greg,

We're just glad glad yer alive and well after that unfortunate experience with the minivan.



ME TOO!!!


..... and it was FILTHY.... covered in road salt... and it was WHITE! OMG!! And the shifter was on the dash like some old tractor... and the tires were skinny!:lol: The horror of the whole experience will haunt me.

[GregWeld]

Hurry up and get your a$$ back. We need a trailer update or 32 update or 33 update or mini semi update or vacation update or 37 update or new wife's car update or mustang update or brothers camaro update or etc etc etc. :mock:



Hey now! For a guy whose avatar is a car with no deck lid.... How 'bout an update from YOU!! :popcorn2:

[Sieg]

Siegmiester.... detailed pics of fabrics and granite WILL be posted tomorrow (plane wifi is way to slow)Send them to Flashy he'll gladly post them up for you. :lol:

Granite! This is a race trailer! How many pounds per square foot? The environmental impact on fuel efficiency not to mention the strip mining process is nothing short of appalling. :sieg:

:action-smiley-027:

[Phaeton]

Hey now! For a guy whose avatar is a car with no deck lid.... How 'bout an update from YOU!! :popcorn2:


Agreed! Glad you made it back. Patiently awaiting your next adventure.

[intocarss]

Hey GW! Strap a GoPro (rt side up) to your head and live stream it. Then we can all live vicariously through you during your adventures :G-Dub: Have a safe trip :hello:

[fleet]

Vans always gettin a bad rep...


XaoM0FyLmGY&feature

..and rightfully so.

:peepwall:

[GregWeld]

Send them to Flashy he'll gladly post them up for you. :lol:

Granite! This is a race trailer! How many pounds per square foot? The environmental impact on fuel efficiency not to mention the strip mining process is nothing short of appalling. :sieg:

:action-smiley-027:




EPIC FAIL DUDE!! This is the WELD race trailer....

[Sieg]

EPIC FAIL DUDE!! This is the WELD race trailer....

Oh! Then this may be helpful.......

MnU3kCPROWg

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^ YOU WIN!!


I shall post no info on carpet etc.




:action-smiley-027:

[ironworks]

^^^^^^^^^^ YOU WIN!!


I shall post no info on carpet etc.




:action-smiley-027:

How about construction photos?

[GregWeld]

First off -- this RENEGADE factory is enormous! As in OMG I had no idea!! I'm just guessing at the size of the buildings - but my best guess is 200,000 sq ft and there's two of them! You have to drive between them (car of golf cart).

So there's not going to be any particular order to the pics... But basically they build more Toterhomes and motor coaches than trailers. They have three different levels -- Renegade is the bottom - Explorer is the middle and IKON is the Caddy. My trailer is a combo of the Explorer SKIN -- with an IKON interior. They can not use the IKON skin/wall for the trailer... So I'm having them prime - sand (block) and paint the Explorer skin - and then it gets two coats of clear. Basically I'm trying to get the look of the IKON using the Explorer skin.

The amount of WIRE in one of these is mind numbing! You think our harnesses are complicated -- you have no idea!!






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-17.jpg







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-19.jpg










Note how slick this siding is -- that's the IKON....







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-16.jpg






This is a used one they're remodeling -- it's a Renegade -- so is fairly plain jane... I'll have a LOT more Stainless steel etc on mine.
But I took this photo because it shows the triple axles -- with the commercial 22.5" tires... my axles will be on air --- and instead of drum brakes mine will be air driven disc.




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-12.jpg






A 40' piece of the siding that will go on my unit. You can see the fiberglass print through -- thus the primer - sanding - painting.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-21.jpg




Another "remodel" -- brakes - bearing service and a few tweaks and re-dos.... Note how slick the paint is.... so that's what I'm doing except all white.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-11.jpg






The way my windows will be done - this is the IKON "frameless" version.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-2.jpg







This shot is for CHARLIE.....


The TV that is going in the bedroom -- which he'll never see..... :mock: :mock:






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-6.jpg






Not my unit -- but this is how they do the wood around the windows etc. This is a slide out - the sofa is missing as well as the doors for the overhead storage.




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-5.jpg





The galley area being built.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Trailer/file-4.jpg

[DBasher]

WoooHooo! Did you use your charm and good looks :G-Dub: to get an earlier delivery date?

How much taller is the trailer than the truck? The shots of those trailers look huge!
Very cool Greg,it's getting closer! :thumbsup:

:cheers:
Dan

[Sieg]

I shall post no info on carpet etc.

Don't do that! We want to see the full meal deal. So far it looks incredible! Right down to the TV Charlie will never see. LOL

[GregWeld]

WoooHooo! Did you use your charm and good looks :G-Dub: to get an earlier delivery date?

How much taller is the trailer than the truck? The shots of those trailers look huge!
Very cool Greg,it's getting closer! :thumbsup:

:cheers:
Dan



Dan -- Trailer is 13' 4" tall which IS really what makes these look big. I know guys that have 48' single tall trailers... and they just don't look like these do. These are same height as normal "dry" freight trailers... but they look large because they're built on a drop frame - making more sidewall because they're built lower UNDER the frame.


No on the earlier date! I did do a fair amount of begging.... but it's not going to happen. These guys are B U S Y! NASCAR teams have been ordering the big toters rather than the Prevost buses... and there's some super secret government trailers being built... as in like a dozen of them.



Don't do that! We want to see the full meal deal. So far it looks incredible! Right down to the TV Charlie will never see. LOL





NO!

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Cool stuff !!

[GregWeld]

Okay - this will be hard to do.....


There are only 4 or 5 interior fabric combos to choose from -- so you're pretty limited to their fabric combos. I started with that "base" choice and worked to find floor - counter - backsplash - grout - sofa (Ultra Leather) and carpet.



So the darkest granite sample is the counter top - it's slab.... it will also be used in 4" squares in the backsplash WITH a 2" "drop"(on point) of the floor granite (the lighter brown).

The floor is on the diagonal (the lighter brown) - 12" squares -- with a drop of matte finished beige.... and in the picture you can see the grout sample.

The fabric is ONE of the fabrics that are used for throw pillows etc. and the stained Cherry is the wood - all cabinets and trim etc.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-44.jpg







This is the Floor granite -- and the carpet that is barely any but goes on the floor in the slide out under the sofa -- and is also the whole bedroom.





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-47.jpg





So this is the counter sample (the darker) with the floor sample - that will be on the floor (main color) and also the 2" drop on point in the backsplash,





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-46.jpg






This is the floor -- the darker -- against the grout choice -- and the beige drop "in matte" to contrast with the polished floor....





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-43.jpg

[GregWeld]

A little more of the fabric -- which has a blood red in it......





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-45.jpg

[GregWeld]

WoooHooo! Did you use your charm and good looks :G-Dub: to get an earlier delivery date?

How much taller is the trailer than the truck? The shots of those trailers look huge!
Very cool Greg,it's getting closer! :thumbsup:

:cheers:
Dan




The BLACK trailer is the height -- the tractor in the middle bay is my truck... the windows are at the same height - what makes my truck look smaller (other than it is) is that I don't have the height in the roof like most of the other trucks do.







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-31.jpg

[GregWeld]

And...... before Rodger jumps my ass..... I'll beat him to the punch.


Me changing a flat.....:poke: :lol: :action-smiley-027: :hello:






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-48.jpg

[FETorino]

When I bought my enclosed trailer I also wrestled with the flooring choice. It was used so I had to go with what the previous owner had bought. :action-smiley-027:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/0309-plywood_zps94d142a9.jpg

[Sieg]

When I bought my enclosed trailer I also wrestled with the flooring choice. It was used so I had to go with what the previous owner had bought. :action-smiley-027:
:lol: ........and you sealed it with 40 wt Valvoline?

[KPC67]

And...... before Rodger jumps my ass..... I'll beat him to the punch.


Me changing a flat.....:poke: :lol: :action-smiley-027: :hello:






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-48.jpg

:lmao:

[Sieg]

Okay - this will be hard to do.....
Thee, that wasn't so tough huh? :D

Looks good. :thumbsup: Is there a warmer grout color? Reason I ask is that light color over time will show it's age compared to a warmer color. IMO the grout color doesn't really blend with with anything other than the 4" accent tile. If there's a grout color the blends (disappears) with the main floor tile that might look and perform better over time. What color is the ultra leather?

[fleet]

First off -- this RENEGADE factory is enormous! As in OMG I had no idea!! I'm just guessing at the size of the buildings - but my best guess is 200,000 sq ft and there's two of them! You have to drive between them (car of golf cart).



http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/F937C444-97DB-700A-20B9-C02D0B1BA53_zpsa574b4f4.jpg

[GregWeld]

Thee, that wasn't so tough huh? :D

Looks good. :thumbsup: Is there a warmer grout color? Reason I ask is that light color over time will show it's age compared to a warmer color. IMO the grout color doesn't really blend with with anything other than the 4" accent tile. If there's a grout color the blends (disappears) with the main floor tile that might look and perform better over time. What color is the ultra leather?



You know -- that's real good advice!



The Ultra leather is a dark brown -- Ultra Leather STEERHIDE



http://www.ultrafabricsllc.com/site/swatches/190

[GregWeld]

Well.... I think I'm heart broken this morning... but stuff happens while you're having fun sometimes.

The long and short of it is I canceled the trailer order this morning after several emails and phone calls telling me that the Renegade factory has yet to schedule a build date - and that the build date IF I sign off on drawings (that I've been waiting and waiting for weeks to get) might get scheduled July 29th and I'd be 12 to 16 weeks out from there.

All of this time I was working on a delivery date of June! They haven't even slotted a build date!

I signed basic - and I mean the most very basic (as posted here earlier) weeks ago... and I requested more detailed drawings for review.... it was back then that I was told June delivery date. In the meantime I was working under the ASSumption that we were just drilling down on details such as flooring choices - fabrics - and minor details etc.

After several emails requesting more detailed drawings -- and being given many excuses as to why they aren't done (illness etc)... I'm now told that they don't have the expertise to produce the drawings and that there's no build date unless I sign off on what I have! A two year old could draw the basic shapes I have.... and I'm supposed to commit to taking a $400,000 totally custom built trailer based on this. Oh and by the way --- I'm now months out as well --- another missed summer --- because of their inabilities.

I could actually work with the basic drawings --- given a large stretch of "trust" that they build a good product and we can figure stuff out as we go.... but the move of the build date is just the last straw. That infuriates me. Mind you -- I gave the dealer a $150,000 deposit LAST JUNE.

Charley will just have to watch TV from the little 12V cigarette lighter version I'll buy at Camper World... :bang: : :rolleyes:

[mdprovee]

Greg, I am very sorry to hear that, as I think we all are sorry. Time to start the search again?

[96z28ss]

Well.... I think I'm heart broken this morning... but stuff happens while you're having fun sometimes.

The long and short of it is I canceled the trailer order this morning after several emails and phone calls telling me that the Renegade factory has yet to schedule a build date - and that the build date IF I sign off on drawings (that I've been waiting and waiting for weeks to get) might get scheduled July 29th and I'd be 12 to 16 weeks out from there.

All of this time I was working on a delivery date of June! They haven't even slotted a build date!

I signed basic - and I mean the most very basic (as posted here earlier) weeks ago... and I requested more detailed drawings for review.... it was back then that I was told June delivery date. In the meantime I was working under the ASSumption that we were just drilling down on details such as flooring choices - fabrics - and minor details etc.

After several emails requesting more detailed drawings -- and being given many excuses as to why they aren't done (illness etc)... I'm now told that they don't have the expertise to produce the drawings and that there's no build date unless I sign off on what I have! A two year old could draw the basic shapes I have.... and I'm supposed to commit to taking a $400,000 totally custom built trailer based on this. Oh and by the way --- I'm now months out as well --- another missed summer --- because of their inabilities.

I could actually work with the basic drawings --- given a large stretch of "trust" that they build a good product and we can figure stuff out as we go.... but the move of the build date is just the last straw. That infuriates me. Mind you -- I gave the dealer a $150,000 deposit LAST JUNE.

Charley will just have to watch TV from the little 12V cigarette lighter version I'll buy at Camper World... :bang: : :rolleyes:

Well that sucks.
Just call your buddy Mark and get this trailer. Its almost what you wanted.
Just build the front section into a living quarter. If you start now, You could have it done by June.
http://www.nwhouseofhardtops.com/07freightliner08renegade.htm

[intocarss]

Sorry for the Heartaches

[71RS/SS396]

Greg, have you looked at T&E Trailers? http://www.tande-racetrailers.com/trailers/stacker/stacker.html

[GregWeld]

I've been working on this whole idea for almost 2 years now. Never thought it would be so hard to get something that should be pretty straight forward. It really isn't complicated. What complicates the entire thing is that I want really high end interior (and exterior) --- and what's out there is "race stuff".... i.e., really basic oak cabinets and vinyl flooring etc. Many of the trailer builders only build trailers -- then they sub out to someone else to build the interiors. Renegade / IKON build all in house --- exactly what I'm looking for. The problem is that they're running on such a skeleton crew that you just go for weeks and weeks waiting on answers to simple questions.... all the while pushing out the build dates. They are NOT waiting on me! I'm waiting on them!

I'm okay with just bagging the whole idea. I'm busy building a new custom home in Sun Valley -- and that's a two year process... and will be a complicated build/design.... so not having to juggle both will be fine with me for now. I've been dragging my little 24' trailer around for a long time now - and it "works".

[DBasher]

Dang it man, sorry to hear this.

:idea:
If it would help I can bolt the wheels back on my house, we could put a door on the end and you could park in the living room. Not as much square footage and no flat screens but it'll get you down the road. :lol:

:cheers:
Dan

[Sieg]

Charley will just have to watch TV from the little 12V cigarette lighter version I'll buy at Camper World... :bang: : :rolleyes:
Ta Dah! Complete with a penthouse for Charlie.

http://whitetrashrepairs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/6424.jpg

[GregWeld]

Dang it man, sorry to hear this.

:idea:
If it would help I can bolt the wheels back on my house, we could put a door on the end and you could park in the living room. Not as much square footage and no flat screens but it'll get you down the road. :lol:

:cheers:
Dan



Awesome! I think we might be able to make this work!!! See Sieg's idea below.





Ta Dah! Complete with a penthouse for Charlie.

http://whitetrashrepairs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/6424.jpg

[ccracin]

How about Featherlite Greg? They seem to do nice stuff! Sorry to hear this, I was hoping to catch some of my favorite shows when you hit Columbus with it. Guess we'll just have to "Go Out" for a steak!

[GregWeld]

How about Featherlite Greg? They seem to do nice stuff! Sorry to hear this, I was hoping to catch some of my favorite shows when you hit Columbus with it. Guess we'll just have to "Go Out" for a steak!



My buddy just had a custom Featherlite done -- with room for a hot rod and a side door ramp for his Harley....

The interior in that trailer is just absolute crap. The trailer is nice - if you're in love with rivets.... But I'm not a fan. Mind you -- I'm sure they can build whatever a customer is willing to pay for - but the $77K he spent... I'd have rather tossed it in the wind.

[Sieg]

5150 may have potential. Based on their gooseneck trailers and motorhome interiors they may be able/willing to do a custom living quarter gooseneck.

http://www.5150racetrailers.com/

Another option would be the custom coach builder in my neighborhood, Marathon. I've seen big tag trailers at their site and their interior work is pretty good. Possibly sub the interior out to them?

http://www.marathoncoach.com/index.cfm

[sik68]

Yeah, sub it out to one of the luxo moto coach builders! Newell, Tiffin, Marathon, Gulf Stream (yes that one), etc. It'll make for a better trailer, and a better conversation piece!

Edit: lemme add Newmar, Powerhouse to that list

[sik68]

Maybe we're just shopping on the wrong continent:

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Miscellaneous/th1/Futuria-Motorhome-3.jpg

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/articles/images/415_5.jpg

http://www.futuria.net/en/index.php?page=840




Clill says he'll be fine outside:

http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2010/09/01/futuria-sportsspa-caravan_6_52.jpg

[GregWeld]

I think there's just something wrong with me..... Here's how I shop....


I tell someone up front --- If I tell you that you have "good, better, and best" I'm going to ask you what you have better than that.

Then once we're working on an order... or a contract... and you tell me you need 25K (for instance) up front... I'll tell you I'll give you 50K up front. Just so you know I'm a for real buyer.

I'm very easy to please - as long as you understand that all I'm asking for is the very best you have - and to please bring me ideas... I love it when someone says -- "hey! You know what would really be kool!".... Or says... well this is the way we normally do something - but if you want my opinion I'd do it "X" way because it only costs "X" more but it's a way better way to do it.

Apparently I just don't communicate very well.:getout:

[96z28ss]

http://www.nwhouseofhardtops.com/IMAGES/07freightliner08renegade003.gif

Is this what you mean about no rivets down the side?

[Sieg]

Steven - We all know the hot tub and the chick would add way too much maintenance to the package. :D

[Track Junky]

Maybe we're just shopping on the wrong continent:

http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2010/09/01/futuria-sportsspa-caravan_6_52.jpg

I got smacked by my wife last night when I said cars before girls but at this level looks like it might be a tie :relax:

[Lenie]

Greg, bummed out for ya. I guess it even happens to people who are willing to fork out the dough. You know, I think your situation would piss me off even more than your average budget minded individual. It brings up the question, WHAT'S A PERSON GOTTADO TO GET A CUSTOM QUALITY PRODUCT!:hairpullout: I was looking forward to this one but know you'll end up w/a satisfying product from someone. Good luck my friend :grouphug:

[Flash68]

That is such a bummer... sorry Greggers.

[GregWeld]

http://www.nwhouseofhardtops.com/IMAGES/07freightliner08renegade003.gif

Is this what you mean about no rivets down the side?



Yes ---- and that's the standard Renegade sides --- I was having mine sanding and fared - and two coats of paint so would have no "print through" and be high gloss.



Greg, bummed out for ya. I guess it even happens to people who are willing to fork out the dough. You know, I think your situation would piss me off even more than your average budget minded individual. It brings up the question, WHAT'S A PERSON GOTTADO TO GET A CUSTOM QUALITY PRODUCT!:hairpullout: I was looking forward to this one but know end the end you'll end up w/a satisfying product somewhere in the end. Good luck my friend :grouphug:



I WILL get something -- even if it's a temporary diversion. And I agree --- I don't know what I have to do to just buy something. This same factory was working on a 22' IKON toterhome -- and stacker gooseneck for me -- we're talking $750,000 rig -- the very top of the line Freightliner Cascadia tractor with the 600 hp Cummins.... It took them MONTHS -- and then after everything is agreed on - money sent etc -- they came back and said "we can't build it because it's too heavy on the front axle".... I'm like REALLY? Do you people not have a friggin' clue what you're doing? The fix was to go with a larger 28' motor coach -- and TAG trailer --- which I had specifically told them earlier I did NOT want.... and that I was trying to keep the overall length within state limits! <75'>




That is such a bummer... sorry Greggers.






I'm only bummed that these guys have wasted so much of my time....

[camcojb]

Well.... I think I'm heart broken this morning... but stuff happens while you're having fun sometimes.

The long and short of it is I canceled the trailer order this morning after several emails and phone calls telling me that the Renegade factory has yet to schedule a build date - and that the build date IF I sign off on drawings (that I've been waiting and waiting for weeks to get) might get scheduled July 29th and I'd be 12 to 16 weeks out from there.

All of this time I was working on a delivery date of June! They haven't even slotted a build date!

I signed basic - and I mean the most very basic (as posted here earlier) weeks ago... and I requested more detailed drawings for review.... it was back then that I was told June delivery date. In the meantime I was working under the ASSumption that we were just drilling down on details such as flooring choices - fabrics - and minor details etc.

After several emails requesting more detailed drawings -- and being given many excuses as to why they aren't done (illness etc)... I'm now told that they don't have the expertise to produce the drawings and that there's no build date unless I sign off on what I have! A two year old could draw the basic shapes I have.... and I'm supposed to commit to taking a $400,000 totally custom built trailer based on this. Oh and by the way --- I'm now months out as well --- another missed summer --- because of their inabilities.

I could actually work with the basic drawings --- given a large stretch of "trust" that they build a good product and we can figure stuff out as we go.... but the move of the build date is just the last straw. That infuriates me. Mind you -- I gave the dealer a $150,000 deposit LAST JUNE.

Charley will just have to watch TV from the little 12V cigarette lighter version I'll buy at Camper World... :bang: : :rolleyes:
I just don't get it. You are the kind of customer I would DREAM of having, and they just piss it away. Makes no sense.

[GregWeld]

I just don't get it. You are the kind of customer I would DREAM of having, and they just piss it away. Makes no sense.



Ya know Jody -- Seriously -- I am a dream customer. SAR - which should stand for Stupid Ass Retards - worked the entire build of the '32 with funds UP FRONT without once ever having to ask me for a reload. Who does that? Me... because I understood that it was "tough" out there and I figured I'm going to have to pay for the stupid little car no matter what - so big deal if I'm 30 days ahead of the game. Big whoop.

Brizio has been working now for several months - billing against the funds I wired him this summer.... and he's nowhere close to being out of money. The entire build was discussed - motor - tranny - color - interior - stance - looks - everything UP FRONT.... They're not waiting on me for a single thing. They know exactly what I want - they have funds to buy all the parts - body - frame - motor - everything.... way before they need it. How easy is that? I trust them. I know what I want - I communicate it - and let them rock and roll.

I don't ask for a discount for cash - I don't ask them for interest on my money - I only ask that they hurry up because I'm like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning.

This is why I say "it must just be me". SAR screwed the pooch.... cost them the next build.... the trailer guys (Renegade) have now blown through TWO builds and got neither of them. Little wonder business is tough! It's hard enough when you do everything right - let alone when you're stupid enough to blow through the easy customers! UGH!

[camcojb]

Ya know Jody -- Seriously -- I am a dream customer. SAR - which should stand for Stupid Ass Retards - worked the entire build of the '32 with funds UP FRONT without once ever having to ask me for a reload. Who does that? Me... because I understood that it was "tough" out there and I figured I'm going to have to pay for the stupid little car no matter what - so big deal if I'm 30 days ahead of the game. Big whoop.

Brizio has been working now for several months - billing against the funds I wired him this summer.... and he's nowhere close to being out of money. The entire build was discussed - motor - tranny - color - interior - stance - looks - everything UP FRONT.... They're not waiting on me for a single thing. They know exactly what I want - they have funds to buy all the parts - body - frame - motor - everything.... way before they need it. How easy is that? I trust them. I know what I want - I communicate it - and let them rock and roll.

I don't ask for a discount for cash - I don't ask them for interest on my money - I only ask that they hurry up because I'm like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning.

This is why I say "it must just be me". SAR screwed the pooch.... cost them the next build.... the trailer guys (Renegade) have now blown through TWO builds and got neither of them. Little wonder business is tough! It's hard enough when you do everything right - let alone when you're stupid enough to blow through the easy customers! UGH!
To me it's much easier (and more successful) to keep your customers happy and get the rewards of that relationship, plus the additional business they bring because they're happy and spread the word, than to not take care of your customers and constantly battle to replace the ones you lose so you stay in business. As hard as it can be to develop a good customer it baffles me that so many companies just don't seem to care about keeping them.

[Sieg]

To me it's much easier (and more successful) to keep your customers happy and get the rewards of that relationship, plus the additional business they bring because they're happy and spread the word, than to not take care of your customers and constantly battle to replace the ones you lose so you stay in business. As hard as it can be to develop a good customer it baffles me that so many companies just don't seem to care about keeping them.
Sadly the 80/20 rule applies to your common sense and logic. Unbelievable isn't it.

[GregWeld]

Sadly the 80/20 rule applies to your common sense and logic. Unbelievable isn't it.



I've been buying cars from one dealer here in Seattle since 1976.... I'm on #9 now... It's really not hard to keep customers. Treat them with respect... do what you say you're going to do... be honest when things aren't going as they should.

When I was the factory Rep for Brown Jordan... I treated every customer as if we were partners. The better they did - the better I'd do. After all... I was a commissioned rep... so I got a percentage of everything. I could write one order and feed them full of crap - and make nothing from then on... Or I could help grow their business - which would in turn - grow mine.

Not really rocket science.

[Sieg]

... be honest when things aren't going as they should.
That's where the vast majority of salespeople fail and mostly out of fear.

In reality that's their opportunity to stand above the heard and earn future business via honesty, trust and respect. But NOooooo it can't be that easy. :D

Sadly we'll probably never know the core reasons on your trailer order unless we happen to read a new report that they closed their doors.

[Greg from Aus]

I think it's a division of SARS and they are out to get you. :catfight:

Greg

[GregWeld]

That's where the vast majority of salespeople fail and mostly out of fear.

In reality that's their opportunity to stand above the heard and earn future business via honesty, trust and respect. But NOooooo it can't be that easy. :D

Sadly we'll probably never know the core reasons on your trailer order unless we happen to read a new report that they closed their doors.



When I was there a few weeks ago - it didn't appear that there was an imminent danger of them closing - but I can tell you that there's far more capacity in the plant than is currently being utilized...and they're running on
the bare minimum of employees.

I actually have no problem with the quality or the giant leap of faith they're asking me to make with just signing off on the plans as is... my problem comes from THEM dragging their heels - not answering simple questions in a timely manor... and then making me sit on my ass waiting for them because they can't get their act together. I just can not - will not - reward someone with my business even if I'm the one that suffers for it.

The fact that they're not clever enough to have slotted me a build date - and didn't tell me that minor little fact... while I was waiting weeks for replies... is what killed it for me.

I dug out the paperwork... I signed a build quote and build plan on DECEMBER 18th!

I was under the impression (given the June delivery date) that we were just working on the very final details.

I'm also having a hard time understanding the lack of knowledge/info etc coming from the dealer. As much as I like him... I expect far more interaction etc. To just lay back and let this all play out -- not pushing the factory -- and or having info and not passing it on to me... that's another nail (actually a clasp with a lock on it!) in the coffin.




I think it's a division of SARS and they are out to get you. :catfight:

Greg



Maybe Stupid Ass Retards (SAR) is having a bigger mo badda unit built and they are in cahoots!!! It's a total conspiracy I tell ya!! I thought I saw a UFO kinda hidden in the back under some tarps...

[travmon]

Greg, I wish you were having better luck with your projects...Unfortunately I know all too well what your dealing with....This last year was a landmark year for myself, as I went "All In" on a new and expanded buisness and I swear everyone I dealt with from electricians, security people,phone people and all these so called experts not ONE of these people could just give me a bid and time frame with-out trying to alter the way I wanted it done....So now a year later we are almost done with stuff that could have been done 6 month's ago if I wasnt having to do it all myself ( and my son )...The only plus to any of it is we are now experts at wiring 3 phase power,tile installation ,security and camera systems,internet-ethernet systems controls and wiring,sheetrock and texture and whole bunch of other stuff I would have been happy to pay for If I had a comfort zone with any of them.. As for the trailer issue I think one of the things your dealing with( I know you'll get this, as I read your posts in the investment section) is the fact that A ton of our buisness's in the U.S.A that have actually been able to make it through this economic collapse are so busy playing catch-up that they cant even focus on current, in the same fashion as they used to be..The bad thing is now they risk bad press before they have time to rebuild..I believe any company that didnt watch the economy with a magnifying glass and lay-off accordingly ,thinking they could ride it out and then had to lay off big groups to stay afloat is what is killing on-time action now..Just my opinion but I believe it to be .I started a new shop that should have cost half a million and the only reason it didnt was I havnt written my self a ck for all that I did !!! Greg , I know we hav'nt met yet and I have very good reason for that,I believe I have built one of the nicest street rod/race car shops in the northwest and I did'nt want you (the ideal customer $) to see it until it was done !! You could however come down anytime for lunch take some pics and let me know what you think..I have roughly 15000 sq ft and we are about to be something in the NW.....again sorry for all the bad issues you have had to deal with when all you really wanted to do was spend money , and stimulate the economy...Trav ........................... I'm dog tired or there would be paragraphs

[GregWeld]

Hey thanks Trav!

Sorry to hear you're having to work so hard -- but it shows good character!


When the guys were supposed to build my shop --- started to just make an amazing mess of things - I went down to talk to the boss.... who immediately gets in my face <big wrong move>... he was told to pack his shiz up and get out. He got three orders -- get out - stay out - and don't come back.


I called a retired buddy of mine and said --- Hey Ray! Get over here - we got us a shop to build! We had fun... I got to buy some tools for he and I that I didn't have before.... learned a few things... It was all good.


I will have a killer stacker trailer... just not with this builder.

[intocarss]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/pedaltotor_zps1fc76a1d.jpg

[waynieZ]

Lol !

[GregWeld]

That would be a step up for me.... But I'm not sure Charley or Jack would have enough head room.

[fleet]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/pedaltotor_zps1fc76a1d.jpg

Freekin' blood doper...

[Blake Foster]

Perhaps you should call Featherlite??? or one of the other companies who build the trailers for the pros

[Ketzer]

Perhaps you should call Featherlite??? or one of the other companies who build the trailers for the pros

GW already blasted them a few pages back...

My buddy just had a custom Featherlite done -- with room for a hot rod and a side door ramp for his Harley....

The interior in that trailer is just absolute crap. The trailer is nice - if you're in love with rivets.... But I'm not a fan. Mind you -- I'm sure they can build whatever a customer is willing to pay for - but the $77K he spent... I'd have rather tossed it in the wind.

[grif54]

That suprises me about Renegade, I help a friend with a drag car and the guys who have big rigs seem to prefer them. Have you looked at Vintage race trailers? They have a really nice setup that they use to haul their Top Dragster with, never been in the living quarters though. Not sure if the build them to the plushness that you would prefer, but you might give them try. Good luck.

[GregWeld]

Yeah -- I'm not sure if it's Renegade -- or the dealer (I'd like to think it's NOT the dealer) but someone just can't get their act together. Everything seems to bottleneck with a guy at the plant named Harley. EVERYTHING goes thru him -- he writes nothing down.... he's on the road half the time... and you just wait weeks for answers. Either way -- I'm done trying to get them to build something for me even though they build a nice product.

Not that it makes a difference one way or the other -- but this is a $400K trailer.... you'd think they'd want the business and would be all over getting 'er done. Maybe business is just way better than I think it is and they've got customers beating down their doors.

[grif54]

WOW! That is a big order, I would think they would be jumping all over that without even thinking about it. It seems like everything else these days, people complain about the economy but when you throw money at them to do a job, they just sit there and look at you with a dumb look on their face:headscratch:

[GregWeld]

WOW! That is a big order, I would think they would be jumping all over that without even thinking about it. It seems like everything else these days, people complain about the economy but when you throw money at them to do a job, they just sit there and look at you with a dumb look on their face:headscratch:



Thus my frustration....

[fleet]

Hire 'The Briz' to procure one.
It might be done in 'old skool' ... but it would be done right. :rules:

:D

[fesler]

Greg if you need any help I know lots of owners to these companies that may be able to help you out. I have been dealing with these issues for years so I always go straight to the top with them.

Give me a call if you want to go over some options.

[fesler]

To me it's much easier (and more successful) to keep your customers happy and get the rewards of that relationship, plus the additional business they bring because they're happy and spread the word, than to not take care of your customers and constantly battle to replace the ones you lose so you stay in business. As hard as it can be to develop a good customer it baffles me that so many companies just don't seem to care about keeping them.

This is why we treat our customers like family, they fly into town and hang out at the shop for hours and play with the dogs ask how the kids are doing and have lunch with the guys. I dont want clients that dont love what we do I want clients that live what we do and want to be apart of it. Its simple do what they ask and dont waste their money and they will be happy.

[GregWeld]

Greg if you need any help I know lots of owners to these companies that may be able to help you out. I have been dealing with these issues for years so I always go straight to the top with them.

Give me a call if you want to go over some options.



Thanks Chris! I'm waiting (again) to hear from the dealer.... and I also have a call into the Sport Truck USA guys in Chandler where I bought the Freightliner... they are dealers for Renegade and said they have some ideas for me. We'll see.

Did you sell your setup??

[fesler]

Well.... I think I'm heart broken this morning... but stuff happens while you're having fun sometimes.

The long and short of it is I canceled the trailer order this morning after several emails and phone calls telling me that the Renegade factory has yet to schedule a build date - and that the build date IF I sign off on drawings (that I've been waiting and waiting for weeks to get) might get scheduled July 29th and I'd be 12 to 16 weeks out from there.

All of this time I was working on a delivery date of June! They haven't even slotted a build date!

I signed basic - and I mean the most very basic (as posted here earlier) weeks ago... and I requested more detailed drawings for review.... it was back then that I was told June delivery date. In the meantime I was working under the ASSumption that we were just drilling down on details such as flooring choices - fabrics - and minor details etc.

After several emails requesting more detailed drawings -- and being given many excuses as to why they aren't done (illness etc)... I'm now told that they don't have the expertise to produce the drawings and that there's no build date unless I sign off on what I have! A two year old could draw the basic shapes I have.... and I'm supposed to commit to taking a $400,000 totally custom built trailer based on this. Oh and by the way --- I'm now months out as well --- another missed summer --- because of their inabilities.

I could actually work with the basic drawings --- given a large stretch of "trust" that they build a good product and we can figure stuff out as we go.... but the move of the build date is just the last straw. That infuriates me. Mind you -- I gave the dealer a $150,000 deposit LAST JUNE.

Charley will just have to watch TV from the little 12V cigarette lighter version I'll buy at Camper World... :bang: : :rolleyes:

Greg, buy the trailer you want size wise empty and drop it off I will have everything built in a very timely manner for you. I have done several things like this for clients and have some great guys we work with to do these things. We might be able to save half your summer if you can find something quick. We completely gutting a 22' toter and rebuilt everything in a month. I also helped with the Jesse Rooke trailer that was at bike week several times and that thing was a party machine.

[fesler]

Thanks Chris! I'm waiting (again) to hear from the dealer.... and I also have a call into the Sport Truck USA guys in Chandler where I bought the Freightliner... they are dealers for Renegade and said they have some ideas for me. We'll see.

Did you sell your setup??

Call me when you can so we can talk about Sport Truck and your ideas. I have an offer on my deal but it may fall out again. I can help you find something as its what I do.

[Ketzer]

This is why we treat our customers like family, they fly into town and hang out at the shop for hours and play with the dogs ask how the kids are doing and have lunch with the guys. I dont want clients that dont love what we do I want clients that live what we do and want to be apart of it. Its simple do what they ask and dont waste their money and they will be happy.

My buddy and I were out for the GoodGuys show last month, it was either raining or hailing or freezing. We decided to get out and shop-hop to kill time and stopped in over at the Fesler camp.
We're just a couple average Joes off the street, gonna poke around and see what we could see. We were greeted at the door and asked if we wanted a tour right off the bat. Chris was out so his son took over tour duty. We were shown their projects, asked about our projects, told what they could help us with and even offered some free swag. Very down-to-earth bunch of folks.
It is as the man says, they love what they do and it shows. His son and his crew really seem to get it's always about the customer.


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

People must have woke up Monday morning and thought to themselves... "Hey, ya know what? I think we just blew off a $400,000 order!"

I've had lots of phone calls..


Too bad they're MONTHS behind the curve and what's gone is gone. I'm real easy to deal with - right until you piss me off. Then it's game over.

[camcojb]

People must have woke up Monday morning and thought to themselves... "Hey, ya know what? I think we just blew off a $400,000 order!"

I've had lots of phone calls..


Too bad they're MONTHS behind the curve and what's gone is gone. I'm real easy to deal with - right until you piss me off. Then it's game over.


I'm EXACTLY the same. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Well we can finally put an end to this "hunting and gathering"..... Yesterday I traded my Truck for this combo...


It's a Freightliner Columbia with 450hp Mercedes and a 12 speed UltraShift... 14' toterhome - and 34' 3 car stacker. USED -- it has a whopping 9,600 miles -- Yes - Nine thousand six hundred miles....







http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/file-53.jpg (http://s919.photobucket.com/user/gregweld/media/Toterhome/file-53.jpg.html)








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[71RS/SS396]

Nice Greg! You'll be ridin dirty! :G-Dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMSOJeZ3dw

[DOOM]

I'm EXACTLY the same. :thumbsup:

X2 Truly amazing!

[fleet]

I really like all the twists, turns and of course toter intrigue in this thread.

http://forums.themustangsource.com/images/smilies/007.gif

And I really like the joke about you trading your new truck for a used rig.

Just lemme know when you finally get an order going and :whenitsdone:

[HEEP]

What, no pics of the inside? What gives Greg?

HEEP

[Ketzer]

Well we can finally put an end to this "hunting and gathering"..... Yesterday I traded my Truck for this combo...


It's a Freightliner Columbia with 450hp Mercedes and a 12 speed UltraShift... 14' toterhome - and 34' 3 car stacker. USED -- it has a whopping 9,600 miles -- Yes - Nine thousand six hundred miles....









Congrats GW! Sweet looking rig!



And I really like the joke about you trading your new truck for a used rig.

Just lemme know when you finally get an order going and :whenitsdone:

Wait... what..?

[GregWeld]

Nice Greg! You'll be ridin dirty! :G-Dub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMSOJeZ3dw



Funny!







X2 Truly amazing!






More twists and turns than your transmission saga!!







I really like all the twists, turns and of course toter intrigue in this thread.

http://forums.themustangsource.com/images/smilies/007.gif

And I really like the joke about you trading your new truck for a used rig.

Just lemme know when you finally get an order going and :whenitsdone:





Oh it's done... cash traded hands last night.... Going this morning to dung out my truck and transfer all the stuff to the new one. Then off to Palm Springs to pick up my '32.... Long story there! And then to Sonoma to get the Mustang -- a stop at the Briz... and then on to Sun Valley for meeting with the architect -- then back to the Shed to continue the motor swap for Pierre.
EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA


BTW -- This road trip started with meeting my Brother in Law and Sister with
"the new and improved" Camaro -- at Kool April Nights in Redding Calif. 1852 registered cars for the show... and Rudy won Cool Camaro pick!




What, no pics of the inside? What gives Greg?

HEEP




Too tired and late last night to do a photo shoot....
I'll post up later. Right now I'm road trippin'....

[mdprovee]

Cool, I am glad it worked out for you Greg. Congrats! It was funny seeing you again, and I will NEVER get the "Pro-Touring Mustang" out of my head. Too funny. Congrats to Rudy also.

[Ns RS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLyX4DbE6Hc

[Sieg]

Congrats on the closure and the Cool Camaro award. :thumbsup:

Now tell us more about the '32 loitering in the Palm Desert.

............and I'd like to borrow the Toterhome for a couple tailgaters this season. :D

[Lenie]

RUUDDDDY...RUUDDYyyy...RUuuuuddyyyyy...Ruuuddyyy:t rophy-1302: :cheers: :lateral: :clap:

[camcojb]

Did Charley sign off on it? :poke: :D

[pokey64]

Nice rig Greg! Time for some "tweaks and a few mods"? :unibrow:

[Flash68]

Nice job. Just gitter done and go! :G-Dub:

[intocarss]

I think you ended up with a better deal Congrats

[clill]

Does it have nice Oak cabinets ?

[DOOM]

People must have woke up Monday morning and thought to themselves... "Hey, ya know what? I think we just blew off a $400,000 order!"

I've had lots of phone calls..


Too bad they're MONTHS behind the curve and what's gone is gone. I'm real easy to deal with - right until you piss me off. Then it's game over.

I cannot fully comprehend how someone can let this happen. I would imagine someone has a lot of explaining to do! To let 400 grand just walk away WOW:G-Dub: So it took them how many days to call you???

[Flash68]

Greg, did you get a contract before you sealed the deal? :D

Just kidding Mario. :mock:

[DOOM]

Greg, did you get a contract before you sealed the deal? :D

Just kidding Mario. :mock:

DAVE!!!!!:warning:

[Sieg]

On the road again..........
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[intocarss]

^^^ Are you stalking GW Siegy?? ^^^:RunninDog:

[Sieg]

^^^ Are you stalking GW Siegy?? ^^^:RunninDog:

Shhhhh.....be bery bery quiyet.

[96z28ss]

Greg,
on your way back up stop in Portland, so we can check that rig out.

[ironworks]

I will give a good once over tonight. We might have to have a big rig race.

[waynieZ]

Nice rig Greg, glad the torture is over. Now go fill it up!

[Sieg]

It will do in a pinch. :D

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This rig is going to be very functional for GW. Being able to retreat to the tow rig and relax after a hard day on the track with these accommodations is a huge bonus. :thumbsup:

[Greg from Aus]

Sweet.

Greg

[96z28ss]

Yep looks like Greg has already out fitted it with the CB radio, coffee maker, and Starbucks mug.

[Ns RS]

Its got Oak!! looks like Sieg got 1st dibs nice there Greg :thumbsup:

[fleet]

It will do in a pinch. :D


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'Awesome!'... as the kids say. :cool:

[Sieg]

Its got Oak!! looks like Sieg got 1st dibs nice there Greg :thumbsup:

Outfitting of the USS Weld has just begun! The previous owner did very little if anything to the toter or trailer. It's next to new with 9,500 shakedown miles on it.

[srh3trinity]

Cool rig. Glad the saga is over for you. Now you just have to pick out a set of Intros for it and call it done.

[clill]

Is my Mustang tied down to the hoist or the deck in front of the hoist ?

[Sieg]

Is my Mustang tied down to the hoist or the deck in front of the hoist ?The deck in front.

That is a great track car Charlie. :thumbsup:

[Sieg]

'Awesome!'... as the kids say. :cool:

Like Totally Sick Pops :thumbsup:

[Al Moreno]

Wow, that rig/setup is just bad to the done! Enjoy Greg :hail:

[HEEP]

Did anyone noticed how close the seat is to the steering wheel? You would think a rig that size would have a little more leg room than that. :D

Really nice rig there mr. Weld. When is the trip to the east coast?

HEEP

[waynieZ]

North Eastern coast.

[GregWeld]

Did anyone noticed how close the seat is to the steering wheel? You would think a rig that size would have a little more leg room than that. :D

Really nice rig there mr. Weld. When is the trip to the east coast?

HEEP



Personally.... I'd like the seat to go closer!



Kidding...




Did you see the pic with the ultra short fat old man in it? Now do you understand?:catfight:

[GregWeld]

I'd respond to all the posts -- but just got home and need to just sit without using the thought process for a bit... maybe tomorrow...


I did "scale it" at Jubitz truck stop this morning.... 48,020 POUNDS.... that explains why it drives just a "bit" differently than my old pick up and 24' TAG trailer. Ya think?!?!

[GregWeld]

Okay -- back to being a post whore...


This little trailer adventure started out with my canceling the 48' living quarters two car stacker.... and in doing so - talking to the Sport Truck RV dealer where I bought the truck. He mentioned he might have something that would "work" for me.... so I told him I was going to Cool April Nights in Redding, California... and that I'd roll on down to Phoenix afterwards to take a look at what he had.

Thinking that I might have a "deal" I could work with -- I told Rudy to bring the title to his trailer to Redding --- and that he could have my 24' Motortrack -- which is nice trailer - but used trailers aren't worth much -- and I'd rather he just swap trailers with me - and I'll make the dealer take his in on "trade". It wasn't worth towing anywhere --- let alone a trade. Seriously.


So we had a great show and cruise in Redding and Sunday AM I load up the '32 in my "new" trailer... Rudy heads home with his new trailer. I phone ahead and make a reservation at a hotel in Palm Springs... non-refundable BTW. 35 miles west of Palm Springs -- a lady is beside me waving frantically and honking her horn. Obviously something was wrong. I check the mirrors but it's sunset and I can't see much... until I hit the binders to slow down and pull over to the breakdown lane! SMOKE --- and lots of it!! OH CRAP.... I'm going to finally be rid of the '32!! By burning it up on the I-10.... but that's a different thread....

So a quick assessment of the situation -- I have a burned up wheel bearing!!





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Standing alongside the freeway -- I notice I'm right next to a WalMart. PERFECT! It's late Sunday night ---- I'm 35 miles from my non-refundable hotel --- I'm dragging this beat up POS to WalMart -- unhooking it - and going on to my room! I'll get it sorted out on Monday! DONE.


Monday AM early I run back to where I left the trailer.... and as it turns out there's a trailer repair joint directly across the I-10 from where I am! Better lucky than smart. I run over to borrow some tools --- they never ask my name -- no deposit -- just good old fashioned guy to guy trust! An hour and a half later I have to wheel and hub off -- so I can balance the trailer on the three remaining tires and drag it to the super close repair shop. But --- always a big butt --- the bearing blow out had ruined the threads on the axle.... Not that I care.... cause I tell the RV repair guy "today is your lucky day! That trailer right there is YOURS! FREE! But I'm not repairing it - you are...AND --- I'm going to leave it here locked up for 2 or 3 days if that's okay. DONE. I unhook and go on to Phoenix.... a couple days later I go back and fetch the '32 -- and leave the title for the POS. Life is okay sometimes....



So Here's some pics.... slept the first night in a truck parking lot next to the trailer dealer -- got up O dark thirty and headed to Bakertucky!






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The problem with the drive from Phoenix to Btucky! Only have an FM radio!! No satellite! OMG long drive across the desert! So Rodger hooks me up with his stereo shop -- while they do better radio and speakers --- they allow me to use the shop tools to do a quick CB install.... Sweet! We're cooking now!








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In the driveway!!! HOME FINALLY!!







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[intocarss]

Nice set up GW! Enjoy roughing it at the races ;) Congrats

I feel your pain. I fixed this last week, 22" enclosed

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It let go a few blocks from home. I ended up pulling the axle and having the spindle replaced and did all the other bearings

[Lenie]

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Greg, bummer of a break down. Man I hate issues on the road. I was over seeing my kid this morning and we decided to stop by your place and see if you were home just to shoot the ****t. Did a slow drive by around 1:30 and didn't see your rig in front of the shop so we kept a move on, maybe next time. Glad to see your finally set up well for the road:flag2:

[GregWeld]

Nice set up GW! Enjoy roughing it at the races ;) Congrats

I feel your pain. I fixed this last week, 22" enclosed


It let go a few blocks from home. I ended up pulling the axle and having the spindle replaced and did all the other bearings




Yeah -- the bearing must have gone a couple 5 miles or more -- it had REALLY chewed up everything! The castle nut was partly rounded off which really made it hard to get off -- and the lock washer "thingy" was mangled which made things even more difficult with no tools to work with. I ended up shopping at WalMart for a screw driver etc....

I think poor Rudy's trailer lived at the beach for awhile... it was pretty rotted out.






Greg, bummer of a break down. Man I hate issues on the road. I was over seeing my kid this morning and we decided to stop by your place and see if you were home just to shoot the ****t. Did a slow drive by around 1:30 and didn't see your rig in front of the shop so we kept a move on, maybe next time. Glad to see your finally set up well for the road:flag2:





Dang dude! Sorry I missed ya! I bought a Snap-On 30 gallon parts washer from a buddy in Portland and had to wait for him to come to Jubitz so we could load it in the trailer. So didn't leave Portland until about noonish. It was a busy day in Ptown --- 'cause I also needed to swap out all the stuff I left in my old trailer! I forgot how much crap I was carrying around in there! OMG!

[GregWeld]

Trip was a lot of fun!! Met up with MikeP at Redding... tricked him into going to look at a "the ultimate PT Mustang" <I was sure he would pound my face once he walked all around in the heat to see it>.... For you No. Cal dudes -- Cool April Nights is a "must do" show! 1852 registered cars... and an amazing cruise with so many people watching! Holy cow... never thought that many people could come stand on the sidewalks to watch cars drive by.


Truck is easy to operate.... IF... you use your head. This is about the tortoise and the hare... the cars whiz by.. you just plug along... sometimes I'd see the same cars pass me 3 and 4 times in a day. Crazy.


Had to call Rodger to ask about the jake brake... mine seemed "lazy" and mostly useless... today I figured out that if you slipped the tranny in "L" then the jake kicks on... Why they'd set it up this way I have no clue - but now that I've found it... it works great.



The living quarters has 4 corner auto leveling -- pretty slick! Push a button and these legs drop down = and the whole truck starts doing a bit of a dance as they level up... Sweet!






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Me and the big rigs... I hate fueling... truck stops are filthy nasty places.... I just fuel and go!







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[ironworks]

Thanks for dinner last week. Good times. Glad Rudy the stereo guy got you hooked up. Good guy there. The jake is your friend but works best at higher rpms. Now you need some straight pipes like me.

[GregWeld]

Thanks for dinner last week. Good times. Glad Rudy the stereo guy got you hooked up. Good guy there. The jake is your friend but works best at higher rpms. Now you need some straight pipes like me.




Was good to see you and Shannon and Frank! Good times indeed!

Rudy (not my brother in law - but the stereo shop owner) was the best! Super nice guy!

The truck makes a little noise with the new and improved jake -- but not like it should! I want hot rod jake sounds.... like the big truckers! It isn't going to happen with the regen exhaust stuff you must use... but I can dream!

[HEEP]

Mr. Weld, Yes I did see the picture of the vertically challenged guy. I just thought he was the tire changer.:D

No really, looks like an exciting time to just get behind the wheel and travel. you sir have been blessed in that and I love to hear about these trips.

Enjoy and keep us entertained by your travels.

HEEP

[intocarss]

The truck makes a little noise with the new and improved jake -- but not like it should! I want hot rod jake sounds.... like the big truckers! It isn't going to happen with the regen exhaust stuff you must use... but I can dream!:hello: :hello:

9MLOguHRi0Y

[GregWeld]

That's a Jake!


Mine reminds me of that commercial where the neighbor has the electric car...

[intocarss]

:idea:
Download Jake Brake vid to Ipod thingy

Hook Ipod to loud speaker

You got BIG TRUCK SOUNDS! :thumbsup:

[mdprovee]

Trip was a lot of fun!! Met up with MikeP at Redding... tricked him into going to look at a "the ultimate PT Mustang" <I was sure he would pound my face once he walked all around in the heat to see it>.... /gregweld/Toterhome/file-72.jpg[/IMG][/URL]


I was going to let that it slide. What an amazing piece of "work". The funny thing was my dad and I walked down about 3 rows looking for it. If Greg says it is worth looking at it must be cool. My fault I fell for it.

All I have to say is paybacks buddy.

[DBasher]

Eeeeeeeehaaaaaww!

That's all I got. Glad you ended up with the toter set up, seems to make more sense. Sure is a whole lot of white rollin down the highway...

:cheers:
Dan

[HEEP]

I'm working on ordering a new trailer. This time around I'm going to finally actually order a trailer that will make use of my F-350 Dually.

I'd really like to get this RIGHT - the first time... so I'm looking for your help on pluses and minuses -- things you'd never do - and things you wish (unlimited check book items) that you had.

Trailer is ATC 40' - with 14' living qtrs... triple axles (spread axles) - all black - .050 rivetless skin... gooseneck.

I'm looking for ANY ideas - brakes - landing gear dos and don't - interior ideas - bigger liv qtrs - smaller? Built ins?
if you hate having a bigger trailer because it became a PITA - or do you wish you'd have gone a bit bigger?

Totally open discussion.

Well, after almost two and a half years, and 100 pages, Mr. Weld is rollin.:cheering:

HEEP

[GregWeld]

Heep -- It's really more like FIVE YEARS.... I just wasn't vocal about it!


I really struggled with this whole process... because it's a large commitment of energy to do this stuff! If you get it and don't like it -- you're kind of stuck. They have zero resale value. I learned something from boating... the guys with 30's and 45's were out every weekend... once the guy stepped up and bought a 65' the boat never left the dock. I was worried that might be the same situation with these things. However... now that I have it -- I like it!

[mdprovee]

Not to dig up an "old" thread, AND change the subject, but here is a picture Luara took of our boys guarding your car at Redding, gun and all.