Gooseneck trailer tips

[clill]

Make sure to get that car on the lift and nut and bolt everything. Don't need Gwen staring at you thinking "Why oh why did I let this idiot talk me into driving this POS car"

[GregWeld]

New oil (Redline 40wt Racing) and filter --- ran the rack @ .018 hot lash -- new front rotors and pads -- bled all old fluid and filled with Wilwood racing fluid... inspected anything and everything I could lay a hand on. Two new sets of tires mounted and ready to go.

If she crashes it - she will be disinvited from all further events. :thumbsup:

[Track Junky]

She had a great time at Bondurant.... and will make some track events with me . If the didn't think she would - I'd have gone with a smaller toter and probably a little more utilitarian....

She's going to drive the Mustang (with instructor) at Thunderhill this month... and I'll just hope that Charley doesn't run her off. Or run off with her. :lol:

I sold the idea that this would be similar to our boat... go anywhere - any time - hassle free (ha!) way to mess about the country. We'll just use various "dates" of events (shows or track days) to go somewhere... then mess around going to and from.

If she doesn't like it.... My friends will!

:rofl:

Just out of curiosity, what was she driving at Bondurant? I mean I really want to see her like this stuff but if she wasn't driving the Mustang.........just sayin', might want to find her something a little easier to drive. You dont want to be picking up pieces of your transmission off of the Thunderhill tarmak.

[GregWeld]

She was in the SS Camaros with the 6 speed.


I have her scheduled with an instructor ride-along for both days - yellow group - at TH.

The car will be way more than she can get into... but I want her to experience it anyway.

If she can't handle it -- I'll let her ride in something far tamer - like Todd's at Buttomwillow. :unibrow:

[mdprovee]

If she doesn't like it.... My friends will!

:rofl:


Where does that list begin, sign me up.

[Sieg]

Where does that list begin, sign me up.

1. Sieg - Pit Beotch, Dipstick Tech, Tire Kicker
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[mdprovee]

1. Sieg - Pit Beotch, Dipstick Tech, Tire Kicker
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I will be the trashtaker,and drool cleaner. When do we leave, YIPEE!!

[GregWeld]

You guys are too funny!


I have to tell ya --- after debating this rig with myself - and anyone else that would listen -- for about 5 years- I'm pretty excited to have actually pulled the trigger!

For me -- it represents FREEDOM! Freedom from the crap hotels up and down the Interstate... freedom to go earlier and stay longer.... freedom to go somewhere without reservations... and freedom from Denny's!!!


EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Track Junky]

I will be the trashtaker,and drool cleaner. When do we leave, YIPEE!!

I'm a highly qualified BBQ Tech, Ice Chest Filler and Emptier, and TV Remote Control Tech :lol:

[intocarss]

You guys are too funny!


I have to tell ya --- after debating this rig with myself - and anyone else that would listen -- for about 5 years- I'm pretty excited to have actually pulled the trigger!

For me -- it represents FREEDOM! Freedom from the crap hotels up and down the Interstate... freedom to go earlier and stay longer.... freedom to go somewhere without reservations... and freedom from Denny's!!!


EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA Throw a dart at a map of a race track or car show AND HEAD OUT!! You're gona have a blast :thumbsup:

[intocarss]

You guys are too funny!


I have to tell ya --- after debating this rig with myself - and anyone else that would listen -- for about 5 years- I'm pretty excited to have actually pulled the trigger!

For me -- it represents FREEDOM! Freedom from the crap hotels up and down the Interstate... freedom to go earlier and stay longer.... freedom to go somewhere without reservations... and freedom from Denny's!!!


EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA Throw a dart at a map of a race track or car show AND HEAD OUT!! You're gona have a blast :thumbsup: LOL @ Denny's!! They all know my name

[Sieg]

You guys are too funny!


I have to tell ya --- after debating this rig with myself - and anyone else that would listen -- for about 5 years- I'm pretty excited to have actually pulled the trigger!

For me -- it represents FREEDOM! Freedom from the crap hotels up and down the Interstate... freedom to go earlier and stay longer.... freedom to go somewhere without reservations... and freedom from Denny's!!!


EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
We're damn excited for you too!!!
Nothing worse than using the porta pot on 105* day at the track when we can go toot in your Toterhome. :woot: :woot:

[GregWeld]

We're damn excited for you too!!!
Nothing worse than using the porta pot on 105* day at the track when we can go toot in your Toterhome. :woot: :woot:



Good luck with that.....

Like I told Charley -- the TV is OUTSIDE and so is his crapper.... over there >>>>>>> across the parking lot!

When I can park it INSIDE his shop -- He can crap inside mine....:rofl:


I have a rule here at the house -- there's a spot out back of the shop to pee --- anything more than that and you'll have to go home.


:cheers:

[Sieg]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well, OK, if you're going to be that way about it we'll just pee on your tires........outback of course. :D

[GregWeld]

I have cameras in the back -- and sides....

[force-fed-snake]

I just have to find some hot rod flames for the front of the tractor that I like... and maybe I'll do them and maybe not. Have to see it done graphically FIRST... I must be from Missouri.
.

If you are gonna go with the classy blue... I would have to stay away from the hot rod flames... just to "typical"

I would say go with OD green...white stars on the doors, radioactive symbols all over it, big letters saying protective gear must be worn within 75 feet... and never worry about getting pulled over.... thats just me :thumbsup:

back to the blue.... leave it clean and classy... except the back door.. where it says "uncle greg's midget unicorn petting zoo" or would the "pc" version be "pigmy unicorn"

[GregWeld]

Permanent "haz mat" placards.... now you're talkin'!

[96z28ss]

You guys are too funny!


I have to tell ya --- after debating this rig with myself - and anyone else that would listen -- for about 5 years- I'm pretty excited to have actually pulled the trigger!

For me -- it represents FREEDOM! Freedom from the crap hotels up and down the Interstate... freedom to go earlier and stay longer.... freedom to go somewhere without reservations... and freedom from Denny's!!!


EEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Can you transfer your VIP status at Laquinta? if so I'll take that, that damn train is a bitch at El Toro.

Well, at Denny's they clean up after you, you'll have to clean the mess you make from cooking in the toter.

[GregWeld]

Can you transfer your VIP status at Laquinta? if so I'll take that, that damn train is a bitch at El Toro.

Well, at Denny's they clean up after you, you'll have to clean the mess you make from cooking in the toter.



Not much to do with TV dinners....

You like Chicken Pot Pie?


:rofl:

[Vegas69]

I'm assuming there will be a butler and chef on staff?:lol:

[GregWeld]

I'm assuming there will be a butler and chef on staff?:lol:



Yep -- anyone that's name isn't on the title and wants to go somewhere....

[Sieg]

I'm assuming there will be a butler and chef on staff?:lol:

Yep -- anyone that's name isn't on the title and wants to go somewhere....

Cool! I can cook pot pies. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Some quick math ---- if I spend 30 days per year for the next 10 years in this thing -- I can do that at the bargain basement rate of $2200 per night.... NOT including fuel - maintenance - insurance - etc.

For that kind of $ it should come with hooker service....

[fleetus macmullitz]

Some quick math ---- if I spend 30 days per year for the next 10 years in this thing -- I can do that at the bargain basement rate of $2200 per night.... NOT including fuel - maintenance - insurance - etc.

For that kind of $ it should come with hooker service....

Hooker, at your service...

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[GregWeld]

Keep talking while I reload.....

[fleetus macmullitz]

Keep talking while I reload.....


I can't wait forever for a witty comeback Weld.

[Sieg]

For that kind of $ it should come with hooker service....I won't tell Gwen you said that..........or? :D

[GregWeld]

I won't tell Gwen you said that..........or? :D



Re-read post #275 real slowly.....


:unibrow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Gwen, we hardly knew thee. :(

[Track Junky]

Some quick math ---- if I spend 30 days per year for the next 10 years in this thing -- I can do that at the bargain basement rate of $2200 per night.... NOT including fuel - maintenance - insurance - etc.

For that kind of $ it should come with hooker service....

That thing is going to cost you $2200 per night plus?

[GregWeld]

That thing is going to cost you $2200 per night plus?

If you have to ask -- you can't afford it.....


It's like owning a large boat... If you're considering the price as part of the equation = ya probably should just do something else.... :D


BTW -- I'd gladly pay that over a night of LaQuinta... and Dennys

[Track Junky]

If you have to ask -- you can't afford it.....


It's like owning a large boat... If you're considering the price as part of the equation = ya probably should just do something else.... :D


BTW -- I'd gladly pay that over a night of LaQuinta... and Dennys

That quote doesn't work here mister........ you already told me the cost.:lol:

And if I could afford that I'd be flying in and having my car delivered :lol:

[Sieg]

Re-read post #275 real slowly.....


:unibrow:
OK, I wed it weel swo

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

That quote doesn't work here mister........ you already told me the cost.:lol:

And if I could afford that I'd be flying in and having my car delivered :lol:


Then you'd be Charley....

[GregWeld]

That quote doesn't work here mister........ you already told me the cost.:lol:

And if I could afford that I'd be flying in and having my car delivered :lol:


The "you're" is a general "you" not a YOU.... as in "anyone" that's going to go this route.

Let's just acknowledge that owning something like this - if you're not a professional race team - is just ridiculous. There's no rational way to justify ownership.

[Sieg]

There's no rational way to justify ownership.

http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

Mortality :unibrow:

[Track Junky]

The "you're" is a general "you" not a YOU.... as in "anyone" that's going to go this route.

Let's just acknowledge that owning something like this - if you're not a professional race team - is just ridiculous. There's no rational way to justify ownership.

I know, just playin'. Your going to have a great time in that thing. :cheers:

[GregWeld]

http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

Mortality :unibrow:



Yep --- I'll be 59 this summer. There's much to do for the next 10 years while I can do it THIS WAY... plenty of time to take it easy after I'm 70. In the meantime it's foot to the floor!


:thumbsup:

[Sieg]

Yep --- I'll be 59 this summer. There's much to do for the next 10 years while I can do it THIS WAY... plenty of time to take it easy after I'm 70. In the meantime it's foot to the floor!


:thumbsup:

Screw 70 :thumbsup:

[force-fed-snake]

There's no rational way to justify ownership.

because you can:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

because you can:thumbsup:



Well... remember.... just because you can doesn't mean you should.


This is a big undertaking... not financially (for me), but in terms of use. I have a large driveway and parking area for it... so I don't have to store it somewhere else. But this thing is a class 8 truck - and at 75' it's longer than your average truck... so that means you're not filing it at the local Chevron... and there's roads you can't drive on - and bridges you can't go under... and on and on. What I'm hoping for is that it's not so much hassle that it isn't worth the effort.

I have a large bucket list of shows I'd like to go to... and places I'd like to see... and with both Gwen and I retired now... I'd like to just take off and go to them. I want to sleep in my own bed - and eat my own cooking etc. I'm just hoping the learning curve isn't too steep!

I just hope Charley gets the driveway widened out before September... but I guess I can stop out on the road and pick up his '66... and a Busch car... so when he flies into Bakertucky for Buttonwillow, he'll have something to drive.

[Blake Foster]

[QUOTE=GregWeld;408746]Well... remember.... just because you can doesn't mean you should.


This is a big undertaking... not financially (for me), but in terms of use. I have a large driveway and parking area for it... so I don't have to store it somewhere else. But this thing is a class 8 truck - and at 75' it's longer than your average truck... so that means you're not filing it at the local Chevron... and there's roads you can't drive on - and bridges you can't go under... and on and on. What I'm hoping for is that it's not so much hassle that it isn't worth the effort.

STARTING WITH YOUR ROAD!!! lol
i know when we were racing Hard and had the 50' trailer with 3 cars and the lift gate, and lounge and and, it was alot of work once you arrived at tne track. lol wait till you have to wash it the first time.
super handy to have EVERYTHING in it's place, it doesn't come out of the trailer so you now need 2 of everything, but i bet once you hit the roaad and get comfortable you will be gone fo rmonths. flying the wife in.

[fleetus macmullitz]

Keep talking while I reload.....


Lines like that are the reason this is still the #1 Gooseneck trailer tips thread on lat-g...

:woot:

[GregWeld]

STARTING WITH YOUR ROAD!!! lol
i know when we were racing Hard and had the 50' trailer with 3 cars and the lift gate, and lounge and and, it was alot of work once you arrived at tne track. lol wait till you have to wash it the first time.
super handy to have EVERYTHING in it's place, it doesn't come out of the trailer so you now need 2 of everything, but i bet once you hit the roaad and get comfortable you will be gone fo rmonths. flying the wife in.


Well -- You've been in my "shed" -- I've got a few spare tools.... and the stuff that's already in my current trailer will transfer over. I had one of the big cabinets in the stacker converted to tool box drawers and one has a 4hp compressor... then there's two more on the other side... so it should have plenty of storage.

Since I'm not a "race team" -- if there's an issue with a car that isn't just a simple hose clamp type fix -- it'll just be loaded up and fixed when I'm at home. This is all just for fun so I'm not busting my arse over a hot car trying to get through the next 10 laps.

It's funny - originally I was just going to do a 14' living quarters in a 44' gooseneck trailer - and everyone told me what a big hassle that was going to be - and that my dually wasn't really big enough and blah blah blah...

[Blake Foster]

and here we are

[clill]

You are a race team and you will be fixing more than just a hose clamp. You think that stupid little wheel bearing or u-joint is going to send you home ? You think that water pump will send you home when there is one in town at the Napa store ? Hah ! Dream on.

[GregWeld]

You are a race team and you will be fixing more than just a hose clamp. You think that stupid little wheel bearing or u-joint is going to send you home ? You think that water pump will send you home when there is one in town at the Napa store ? Hah ! Dream on.



Oh --- I have some tools.....


:unibrow:

[camcojb]

and with both Gwen and I retired now...

first thing you've got to do is get her boss to quit enticing her back. :yes: :lol: That's what happens when you're really good at what you do. :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

first thing you've got to do is get her boss to quit enticing her back. :yes: :lol: That's what happens when you're really good at what you do. :thumbsup:

The other day we're in the car and her ex CEO calls -- starts asking her what RSU's to give a VP and signing bonus etc.... Mind you - we sold this biz over a year ago - and she retired December of 2011.... This is a 1 Billion dollar company in sales... and he's still asking her what to do! :lol: We're friends so it doesn't matter... but when she hung up -- first thing she said was -- "thank gawd I don't have to do that stuff anymore!"

Amen!

She'll never go back to work anywhere -- except Boards of companies or something along those lines and then ONLY for fun... and if it isn't something she thinks would be fun -- it ain't happenin'!


:cheers: :woot:

[Ron in SoCal]

That's yer best post of the day G-Dub. Maybe Skip can post a Frank Sinatra vid (My Way) :cheers:

[GregWeld]

That's yer best post of the day G-Dub. Maybe Skip can post a Frank Sinatra vid (My Way) :cheers:

Here's an appropriate video....



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[fleetus macmullitz]

That's yer best post of the day G-Dub. Maybe Skip can post a Frank Sinatra vid (My Way) :cheers:

Can't. I've been ASKED to retire.




:lol:

[GregWeld]

Can't. I've been ASKED to retire.




:lol:

I think it's time you built a car...


:woot:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I think it's time you built a car...


:woot:

But I'm having so much fun watching others mistakes!

Oops. :_paranoid

[Flash68]

I think it's time you built a car...


:woot:

:D He got got you there Skip.

But I'm having so much fun watching others mistakes!

Oops. :_paranoid

Doh! :lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

:D He got got you there Skip.



Oh yeah, he welded me on that one. :D

Its just that I keep saving so much money watching you guys.

I think I'll start when I feel the learning curve has peaked for ya'll. :unibrow:

[Vegas69]

You can look all you want but you have to get your hands dirty to have experience. :unibrow:

[fleetus macmullitz]

You can look all you want but you have to get your hands dirty to have experience. :unibrow:

Absolutely...but I've already been through a few rodeo's with builds that are closely related to this PT stuff, i.e. vehicles built that required with low-volume custom components.

I also will wait for certain key items to come on the market. I don't like having just one choice whenever possible. And they're about ready.

What I like is seeing guys working hard to to keep improving their cars, and really pushing the envelope. :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Absolutely...but I've already been through a few rodeo's with builds that are closely related to this PT stuff, i.e. vehicles built that required with low-volume custom components.

I also will wait for certain key items to come on the market. I don't like having just one choice whenever possible. And they're about ready.

What I like is seeing guys working hard to to keep improving their cars, and really pushing the envelope. :thumbsup:

You've got about 100x more patience than I have Skip. :thumbsup: :woot:

[fleetus macmullitz]

You've got about 100x more patience than I have Skip. :thumbsup: :woot:

Thanks D. :)

But after all the train wrecks my impatience caused, I'm not sure its patience making me take my time, just the body cast.



:lol:

[Ron in SoCal]

Absolutely...but I've already been through a few rodeo's with builds that are closely related to this PT stuff, i.e. vehicles built that required with low-volume custom components.

I also will wait for certain key items to come on the market. I don't like having just one choice whenever possible. And they're about ready.

What I like is seeing guys working hard to to keep improving their cars, and really pushing the envelope. :thumbsup:

Curious what key items you're waiting for Skipper? Direct Injection? :D Wait till the aftermarket gets ahold of that! Can you say 24:1? :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Curious what key items you're waiting for Skipper? Direct Injection? :D Wait till the aftermarket gets ahold of that! Can you say 24:1? :thumbsup:

Direct injection that will be cool (no pun intended lol) when 'we' get it.

My key item? It's a big ticket piece that if I mentioned it might weaken my negotiating stance. :_paranoid


But I can tell you about my other big news...marketed directly at the spoiled lil brats whose parents give them everything. It's called...




'Toterhomes for Tots'



:woot:

[GregWeld]

'Toterhomes for Tots'



:woot:



Okay - That was a buzz kill....


:rofl:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Okay - That was a buzz kill....


:rofl:

I did it for you...the thing won't be ready til 09/12 earliest, right?

Gotta pace yourself and turn down 'The Rolling Weld Manner of Things' hype machine a little, Big Daddy! :D

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[GregWeld]

18 weeks was the quoted delivery date -- I'm HOPING it's ready for the Buttonwillow event. If not - I will be sorely disappointed.

[GregWeld]

Just an update which may or may not make sense -- but I have to have approval from Gwen before I can finalize ANYTHING --- Todd and Dave will discover this shortly.

I was going to paint the big ole POS PPG Barcelona Blue --- but GWEN wants it to match her R8 --- so Lava Grey it is!

Washing either one is going to be a complete PITA --- so it's okay.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Gwens%20R8/IMG_0992.jpg




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[ironworks]

Just an update which may or may not make sense -- but I have to have approval from Gwen before I can finalize ANYTHING --- Todd and Dave will discover this shortly.

I was going to paint the big ole POS PPG Barcelona Blue --- but GWEN wants it to match her R8 --- so Lava Grey it is!

Washing either one is going to be a complete PITA --- so it's okay.



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Gwens%20R8/IMG_0992.jpg





http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Gwens%20R8/IMG_0990.jpg


That will look good.

[GregWeld]

Some things are better left up to the little woman!

[Flash68]

Gwen made the right call! :lol: :thumbsup:

And you're right about the decision making process.... why do you think I'm getting a detuned Nascar motor... it was all Suzie Q's idea.

Like you preach... marry well! :D

[Vegas69]

Speak for yourself, I still wear the pants around here. At least until I say I does. Ha

[Blake Foster]

That will look WICKED!! in the Grey.
any subtle graphics?
oh you were going to ruin it with flames wern't you!! lol

[GregWeld]

Speak for yourself, I still wear the pants around here. At least until I say I does. Ha



You're not married.....


Wait to speak 'til after you are.

[GregWeld]

That will look WICKED!! in the Grey.
any subtle graphics?
oh you were going to ruin it with flames wern't you!! lol



I'm thinking GHOST flames just on the truck -- on the hood and fenders only -- not back on the toter..... and done very subtlety....

[Vegas69]

The first thought that pops into my head is, can they spray a big rig like that with a metallic and make it look good enough?

[ironworks]

I'm thinking GHOST flames just on the truck -- on the hood and fenders only -- not back on the toter..... and done very subtlety....


Just step back from the 80's. Either put flames or don't. No Ghost flames.

If anything just do more stainless on the truck.

[GregWeld]

The first thought that pops into my head is, can they spray a big rig like that with a metallic and make it look good enough?



I already proposed that question.... since I just asked for the color change and they're built in Indiana -- I figure I'll hear back tomorrow or the next day. I also asked about whether or not they're capable of doing the ghost flames and coming up with a design etc.

If you look at the IKON/Renegade website - and specifically the IKON versions (which is what mine is) they have some pretty "fancy" paint jobs.... but those are smaller areas... so a HUGE surface done in Metallic might be all mottled... I don't know.

[Sieg]

Some things are better left up to the little woman!

I like the stealth/sinister factor of the Lava Grey. It could be real good and Gwen can get in a few "I told you so's" when everyone is handing out compliments. Win-Win :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Just step back from the 80's. Either put flames or don't. No Ghost flames.

If anything just do more stainless on the truck.



I'm just trying to break up the HUGE solid color and trying to come up with SOMETHING that doesn't say MOTORHOME OLD FOLKS PAINT JOB...


Actually --- it has a huge chrome grill -- and big headlights - and chrome bumper -- and SS all the way down the side of the toter and stacker... so maybe that's enough! And all the window are black...

Thanks for the input guys -- really! I'm struggling with this part of it.

:cheers:

[ironworks]

I'm just trying to break up the HUGE solid color and trying to come up with SOMETHING that doesn't say MOTORHOME OLD FOLKS PAINT JOB...


Actually --- it has a huge chrome grill -- and big headlights - and chrome bumper -- and SS all the way down the side of the toter and stacker... so maybe that's enough! And all the window are black...

Thanks for the input guys -- really! I'm struggling with this part of it.

:cheers:

Just put as much stainless and chrome as possible. If it needs more later just a vinyl decal. But with the proper stainless trim it will look very classy and modern.

[GregWeld]

Here's a video I came across just now looking for paint ideas....This shows the floor I ordered and the way the shower is done... and the TV over the cab etc.
I did do the Hydronic in floor heat system... the difference is ours will be a Freightliner Cascadia truck - 600 hp Cummins - Allison automatic transmission... and only 24' of living quarters but will have the dual rear axles..


And this shows the paint job WE DO NOT WANT.....


I'm in agreement with Rodger -- just the Lava Grey and forget it....


gn2d153xOME

[Sieg]

FWIW - Marathon Coach is in my backyard and I don't recall seeing any issues with their metalic jobs. Didn't scrutinize them too close, but never noticed any pooling etc.

Maybe break it up with a commercial theme which my draw less scrutinixing attention to the rig.

Use your logo:
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/1932%20Ford/DSC00724.jpg

W
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Not fer Hire :unibrow:

Maybe a free flowing very light ghost checkered flag motiff?

A struggling business that just can't seem to make ends meet year after year :rolleyes:

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't quit your day job!

[Track Junky]

I'm just trying to break up the HUGE solid color and trying to come up with SOMETHING that doesn't say MOTORHOME OLD FOLKS PAINT JOB...


Actually --- it has a huge chrome grill -- and big headlights - and chrome bumper -- and SS all the way down the side of the toter and stacker... so maybe that's enough! And all the window are black...

Thanks for the input guys -- really! I'm struggling with this part of it.

:cheers:

I thought you were all done after picking the options.

Now you need to figure out how to paint it? What a bitch!! :lol:

I like the ghost flame idea but with a vehicle that big you cant do the whole thing in flames so doing the cab only isn't a bad idea. Trying to tie another scheme into that is a tough one though.

I would probably run the ghost flames up front along with the triple color scheme on the truck they showed in the video. I liked the front of that truck.

[Sieg]

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't quit your day job!Gotcha...........so a Tie-dye theme is out of the question too? :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

I thought you were all done after picking the options.

Now you need to figure out how to paint it? What a bitch!! :lol:

I like the ghost flame idea but with a vehicle that big you cant do the whole thing in flames so doing the cab only isn't a bad idea. Trying to tie another scheme into that is a tough one though.

I would probably run the ghost flames up front along with the triple color scheme on the truck they showed in the video. I liked the front of that truck.



I don't know..... Flames are so 80's.........



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Ironworks/ShopPicsMay2011158.jpg

[Track Junky]

Maybe on a car but not a hauler. Haulers with flames are cool. I recently saw a 67 Chevelle, all black with candy purple, blue, red, and yellow ghost flames in it. Wished I had my camera at the time. This thing looked bad ass!!

[GregWeld]

Gotcha...........so a Tie-dye theme is out of the question too? :unibrow:



Last time I used LSD was probably around 1971.... but Tie-dye can be "cool"...

But don't you think nothing says "dated and old man driving large motorhome" as tie-dye?


What about lace painting?

[Track Junky]

Last time I used LSD was probably around 1971.... but Tie-dye can be "cool"...

But don't you think nothing says "dated and old man driving large motorhome" as tie-dye?


What about lace painting?

Nah, not with a big pot leaf and a peace sign painted on the side of it. That would make you "hip" :lol:

[Vegas69]

I don't know about flames but it definitely needs a slogan. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

I don't know about flames but it definitely needs a slogan. :unibrow:

Okay!

How about?


Ass.... Grass.... or Gas.... Nobody rides for free?


That'd be original right??

[Track Junky]

I went back to the vid to see that truck. The lines running up the side of the cab look good but after that they get to much. Maybe if you continued those lines all the way back it would look alot better.

[GregWeld]

Nah, not with a big pot leaf and a peace sign painted on the side of it. That would make you "hip" :lol:



Okay! In 30 seconds or less Skip will have a pic or a video posted that's appropriate.....

[Track Junky]

Okay! In 30 seconds or less Skip will have a pic or a video posted that's appropriate.....

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Vegas69]

Okay!

How about?


Ass.... Grass.... or Gas.... Nobody rides for free?


That'd be original right??

I'm sure I can come up with something witty and back handed at the same time. :lol:

[Sieg]

What about lace painting?
DUDE! I think yer on to something now! :woot:

There's always this theme........

http://www.magiclovebus.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kesey-bus.jpg

[Matt@BOS]

Ass, grass, or gas...

Greg buys this great new rig so that he can travel around and go racing, yet the only "passing" that he's going to be doing is off the track :_paranoid

How's that for witty and back handed?

[GregWeld]

Ass, grass, or gas...

Greg buys this great new rig so that he can travel around and go racing, yet the only "passing" that he's going to be doing is off the track :_paranoid

How's that for witty and back handed?

EPIC FAIL...

The "gas" is slang for FUEL....


Are you really that young that you've never heard that old saying??

:rofl:

[Matt@BOS]

EPIC FAIL...

The "gas" is slang for FUEL....


Are you really that young that you've never heard that old saying??

:rofl:

No, no, no, my comment was in regard to the grass
Does that make it any funnier?

[Track Junky]

Only now :lol:

[Flash68]

No, no, no, my comment was in regard to the grass
Does that make it any funnier?

Well it was quite ambiguous. :D

Are there any threads left that stay remotely close to topic anymore? :lol:

[ironworks]

I don't know..... Flames are so 80's.........



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Ironworks/ShopPicsMay2011158.jpg

Ghost flames are 80s. Just commit to flames fully, dont make me think i might be on a bad trip.

[GregWeld]

:rofl: :rofl:

No Dave they're all just running conversations... all connected in some way or another.

+++++++++++++

Okay - Matt - It was I that was slow on the uptake -- now I understand your "passing" comment. It's been years and years... like High School....

+++++++++++++


Okay -- NO FLAMES OF ANY KIND - Large or small - ghost or Orange X 60'.... just plain old Lava Grey.

[intocarss]

Just an idea.. lava grey and black chrome the wheels and stainless stuff

[sik68]

That rig is sure going to look classy! Solid colors is how real racing teams do it :thumbsup: Risi Competizione has all of their haulers in solid red, with a logo splashed on it here & there. Avoiding flashy painted graphics now gives you some freedom to throw a vinyl graphic on there if you ever feel compelled.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/dan_o_00/HPIM0229.jpg

Looking for a double entendre for your license plate or team name?
WASHVEG Racing

It's got your home state,your eating preferences, and a public service announcement all in one :unibrow: :lol:

[GregWeld]

How about http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/logo.png That has a nice ring to it?


Originally I thought about and asked them if they could do Ferrari Rosso Corsa Red - to match my '32 Ford... but then thought better of that color. I get enough tickets without announcing my presence 2 miles in advance.

[GregWeld]

So normally I wouldn't really ask for anyones opinion --- but I'm trying to make this a little "fun" and include you guys - because it's all good conversation!


I just realized that the "rig" will be "similar" in color to the Mustang stripes --- so am thinking of maybe doing YELLOW awnings?? That would be a cute play on the colors and is light enough to reflect sunlight etc... and might make it kind of fun color combo at track events.


???????



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/MU0X1617.jpg

[jimbo]

"That would be a cute play on the colors and is light enough to reflect sunlight etc... and might make it kind of fun color combo at track events."

Do you really wanty a bad@ss rig like that to be "cute"?

[fleetus macmullitz]

So normally I wouldn't really ask for anyones opinion --- but I'm trying to make this a little "fun" and include you guys - because it's all good conversation!


I just realized that the "rig" will be "similar" in color to the Mustang stripes --- so am thinking of maybe doing YELLOW awnings?? That would be a cute play on the colors and is light enough to reflect sunlight etc... and might make it kind of fun color combo at track events.


???????



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/MU0X1617.jpg

I can't even say what I'm thinkin'......


:rofl:

Are we clear on this now?

[GregWeld]

"That would be a cute play on the colors and is light enough to reflect sunlight etc... and might make it kind of fun color combo at track events."

Do you really wanty a bad@ss rig like that to be "cute"?




Dude! Get in touch with your feminine side!

Maybe "FUN" would have been a better choice on my part..... :D

[ironworks]

So normally I wouldn't really ask for anyones opinion --- but I'm trying to make this a little "fun" and include you guys - because it's all good conversation!


I just realized that the "rig" will be "similar" in color to the Mustang stripes --- so am thinking of maybe doing YELLOW awnings?? That would be a cute play on the colors and is light enough to reflect sunlight etc... and might make it kind of fun color combo at track events.


???????






http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/65%20Mustang%20Track%20car/MU0X1617.jpg

Having an awning match your car will be awesome until you decide to sell the car for something else that is NOT yellow. Just get everything Lava Gray Colored. the awning companies have a really nice dark gray.

Just make the hauler look timeless. No Gimmicks, No Crap that looks dated in 10 years. Kind of like blue jeans and a T-shirt or a tuxedo. They never go out of style.

Don't make you truck look like a really nice set of Big Block Chevy Valve Covers that everybody had on their hot rod rod 20 years ago and now look like they are 20 years one when they are brand new

[War]

Black.........All Black.......I'm positive someone else will wash it. And did you get a custom step stool to reach the first tank step

[camcojb]

Having an awning match your car will be awesome until you decide to sell the car for something else that is NOT yellow. Just get everything Lava Gray Colored. the awning companies have a really nice dark gray.

Just make the hauler look timeless. No Gimmicks, No Crap that looks dated in 10 years. Kind of like blue jeans and a T-shirt or a tuxedo. They never go out of style.

Don't make you truck look like a really nice set of Big Block Chevy Valve Covers that everybody had on their hot rod rod 20 years ago and now look like they are 20 years one when they are brand new

I agree.

[HAULNSS]

Maybe "FUN" would have been a better choice on my part..... :D


Fun?

Like this?
http://pattisoriginals.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/humor-plumber-toilet-truck.jpg

[GregWeld]

Just make the hauler look timeless. No Gimmicks, No Crap that looks dated in 10 years.



You really think I'm going to still have this same rig 10 years from now? You've got to be joking...


The Sunbrella fabric won't last 10 years... and if it did last that long - it'd be filthy and would have been replaced long before. But I also get what you're saying.... which is EXACTLY why I don't want the whoopteedo paint jobs they put on these things. I can't even imagine what we'll all think of those 10 years from now!

[GregWeld]

Black.........All Black.......I'm positive someone else will wash it. And did you get a custom step stool to reach the first tank step


You're right -- someone ELSE will be washing it!


I bought some elevator shoes! Tony uses them when he does drywall.


I have all black now.... never again buddy -- never!


Currently own a black MBZ - Porsche - Truck - trailer... JUST SHOOT ME!

[sik68]

There is a compromise:

UePtoxDhJSw

[Blake Foster]

Well it was quite ambiguous. :D

Are there any threads left that stay remotely close to topic anymore? :lol:

So it's raining AGAIN here today..........................


:_paranoid

Get it PASSING THE GRASS?? you guys are so dumb!!!

:cheers:

[GregWeld]

So it's raining AGAIN here today..........................


:_paranoid

Get it PASSING THE GRASS?? you guys are so dumb!!!

:cheers:



EH??



That's Canada's #1 cash crop.... or at least up in the Gulf Islands it is!

[96z28ss]

Black.........All Black.......I'm positive someone else will wash it. And did you get a custom step stool to reach the first tank step

yep, he has one.

LOL i knew I'd have a use for this picture someday.

[Flash68]

Having an awning match your car will be awesome until you decide to sell the car for something else that is NOT yellow. Just get everything Lava Gray Colored. the awning companies have a really nice dark gray.

Just make the hauler look timeless. No Gimmicks, No Crap that looks dated in 10 years. Kind of like blue jeans and a T-shirt or a tuxedo. They never go out of style.

Don't make you truck look like a really nice set of Big Block Chevy Valve Covers that everybody had on their hot rod rod 20 years ago and now look like they are 20 years one when they are brand new

Might be true for most people. But as you are certainly aware... this is GW. He can and will afford to change it every 3-5 years I'd venture to guess.

I like the yellow awning idea off the gray. Go for it. And change it when you change cars. Or taste. Or whatever.

:lateral:

[96z28ss]

There is a compromise:

UePtoxDhJSw

oh Gregs theme song cool. Maybe Greg can invite his son to the races and his son can have this music blasting out the truck speakers!!

[GregWeld]

oh Gregs theme song cool. Maybe Greg can invite his son to the races and his son can have this music blasting out the truck speakers!!




Nope --- that's the ONLY channel Charley is going to get on the outside TV!!!

Just loop the tape....


Oh yeah baby!

:lol:

[GregWeld]

Might be true for most people. But as you are certainly aware... this is GW. He can and will afford to change it every 3-5 years I'd venture to guess.

I like the yellow awning idea off the gray. Go for it. And change it when you change cars. Or taste. Or whatever.

:lateral:


THANK YOU! That's EXACTLY what I was thinking..... it's like --- so what If I sold the car -- just get new awnings. What's the big deal about that?

[Vegas69]

Might be true for most people. But as you are certainly aware... this is GW. He can and will afford to change it every 3-5 years I'd venture to guess.

I like the yellow awning idea off the gray. Go for it. And change it when you change cars. Or taste. Or whatever.

:lateral:

He don't need his ego stroked anymore. :unibrow:

[Flash68]

He don't need his ego stroked anymore. :unibrow:

Hey I can't help it if he and I are the only ones who can admit that we are in touch with our feminine sides around here. We aren't cavemen.

There's some really tough guys around here apparently... :lol:

[Vegas69]

Hey I can't help it if he and I are the only ones who can admit that we are in touch with our feminine sides around here. We aren't cavemen.

There's some really tough guys around here apparently... :lol:

Evidentally, because I can't for the life of me figure out how that response came out of my post. :unibrow:

[Flash68]

Evidentally, because I can't for the life of me figure out how that response came out of my post. :unibrow:

Don't overthink it and don't be too sensitive. :D

[FETorino]

Awnings are cheap. If you sell the car include them with it. I think it would be pretty cool. :thumbsup:

The grey trailer is timeless. Remember the big guy telling you to go understated is driving around with huge orange flames.

[Flash68]

The grey trailer is timeless. Remember the big guy telling you to go understated is driving around with huge orange flames.

Are you saying he has "flame remorse" already? :lol:

[GregWeld]

Big difference -- one rig was used -- one rig is custom ordered.


I've asked the factory to do a rendering - with and without ghost flames - in the lava grey color... 'cause it's going to be lava grey - that part is "done". Now the choice is going "classy" with a grey awning -- or having some "fun" with the light yellow version.

[Vegas69]

I'd definitely break up the color scheme with some contrast on the awning. To me, that's like a black car that's murdered out. I like the contrast of a red awning. Plus, it would match your matchbox toy, the 32.:lol:

[FETorino]

Big difference -- one rig was used -- one rig is custom ordered.


I've asked the factory to do a rendering - with and without ghost flames - in the lava grey color... 'cause it's going to be lava grey - that part is "done". Now the choice is going "classy" with a grey awning -- or having some "fun" with the light yellow version.

I thought it was a choice between "Classy" and "Cute" :D

[fleetus macmullitz]

My senior community banned yellow, sumthin about raising my fellow members heart rates too much. So I ordered it this way. :mad:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/shelby-gt500kr-golf-cart_100334469_.jpg

[GregWeld]

My senior community banned yellow, sumthin about raising my fellow members heart rates too much. So I ordered it this way. :mad:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/shelby-gt500kr-golf-cart_100334469_.jpg



That SOB looks like someone hopped a curb with it and busted it up!


:rofl: :rofl:

[GregWeld]

I thought it was a choice between "Classy" and "Cute" :D



Okay -- Cute was Gwen's version.... "Fun" is my version. :lol:


I think if I was going to be parking at the local KOA old folks trailer park -- the "classy" (think old worn out - and velcro clill tennis shoes) version would be most appropriate -- but I see it at Infineon (now called Sonoma Raceway) - Thunderhill - or Buttonwillow as a "race rig" and the grey - with ghost flames on the nose - and yellow awnings would be "killer" and "fun" and my wife would think it's cute and claim it as her "idea"..... and with Charley's '66 or Jackass and my car parked under the awnings -- it would look like a bad ass race team!

On the Girard awning website they only offer two yellows -- and frankly - their website sucks.... but I was thinking the lighter pale yellow -- so it has light under it - but reflects the sun as well.

[fleetus macmullitz]

That SOB looks like someone hopped a curb with it and busted it up!


:rofl: :rofl:

I was the one hoppin'. The chiropodist refuses to make a house call to treat my siamese bunions.

[GregWeld]

I was the one hoppin'. The chiropodist refuses to make a house call to treat my siamese bunions.



If I had that -- which is kinda kool as golf carts go (vs the rolls royce version) I'd have to have it make good exhaust sounds.

[fleetus macmullitz]

I'd have to have it make good exhaust sounds.

BMW was offering piped in sounds IIRC.

Iacocco was marketing this one...the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

:lol:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/02l4.jpg

[GregWeld]

Charley uses his Segway at track events -- which IMHO is brilliant!

I just ordered a pink Schwinn with banana seat and ape hangers.

[camcojb]

Charley uses his Segway at track events -- which IMHO is brilliant!

I just ordered a pink Schwinn with banana seat and ape hangers.

could of sold you this one. :lol:

http://camcojb.com/temp/schwinn%20002.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

Charley uses his Segway at track events -- which IMHO is brilliant!


Agreed. :cool:

Need to outfit that thing with a GoPro.

:D


I just ordered a pink Schwinn with banana seat and ape hangers.

Pink Schwinn under yellow awnings..I wanna be there for that.

:woot:

[GregWeld]

Agreed. :cool:

Need to outfit that thing with a GoPro.

:D



Pink Schwinn under yellow awnings..I wanna be there for that.

:woot:



Yep! Want to show Todd there's no ego here!


EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA


:D

[Sieg]

His and Her's Segway's would rock! One in Lava Grey and one with a radical flame job and Intro's. :unibrow:

[Vegas69]

Okay -- Cute was Gwen's version.... "Fun" is my version. :lol:


I think if I was going to be parking at the local KOA old folks trailer park -- the "classy" (think old worn out - and velcro clill tennis shoes) version would be most appropriate -- but I see it at Infineon (now called Sonoma Raceway) - Thunderhill - or Buttonwillow as a "race rig" and the grey - with ghost flames on the nose - and yellow awnings would be "killer" and "fun" and my wife would think it's cute and claim it as her "idea"..... and with Charley's '66 or Jackass and my car parked under the awnings -- it would look like a bad ass race team!

On the Girard awning website they only offer two yellows -- and frankly - their website sucks.... but I was thinking the lighter pale yellow -- so it has light under it - but reflects the sun as well.

Might as well throw a Mary Poppins DVD in your 87 inch TV while you're at it.

14J3esvACe4

[GregWeld]

Might as well throw a Mary Poppins DVD in your 87 inch TV while you're at it.

14J3esvACe4



LOL -- Hysterical!!

[GregWeld]

His and Her's Segway's would rock! One in Lava Grey and one with a radical flame job and Intro's. :unibrow:



I just sent Charley a link to a FleaBay listing for CUSTOM wheels for the Segway! I had no idea! And they're like 2 grand! WTF!

[96z28ss]

Are you going to call West Coast Customs and get a custom one made.
The WELD EDITION.
http://www.segwayoffroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/431622_3011143031956_1063891756_32434826_177831641 7_n.jpg

[GregWeld]

GREAT! That will match my two front teeth!! I'm delighted! So lovely!










Are you going to call West Coast Customs and get a custom one made.
The WELD EDITION.
http://www.segwayoffroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/431622_3011143031956_1063891756_32434826_177831641 7_n.jpg

[Sieg]

I just sent Charley a link to a FleaBay listing for CUSTOM wheels for the Segway! I had no idea! And they're like 2 grand! WTF!The least Intro could do is comp you a set for all your support. :D

[Ron in SoCal]

GREAT! That will match my two front teeth!! I'm delighted! So lovely!

Might match a yellow awning too!

[Track Junky]

Your going to look like King Tut on that fricken' thing

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/indy10.jpg

[FETorino]

Sometimes it's hard to choose. :D "classy" or "fun" or "cute" I'm confused now which was which? :lol:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/yellowvsgray.jpg

[fleetus macmullitz]

I don't care what color awning that rigg gonna git, my posse will be there and we ain't got no fem side either.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/524601_324450687619384_150665568331.jpg

[Track Junky]

Redneck recliners......I like it

[GregWeld]

You guys are killin' me....


I'll have nightmares tonight with the typical "okay that was just weird" kind of thoughts -- like why are Charley and I sitting in wheelbarrows... and who are those chicks that showed up in matching chiffon dresses... and why is my wheelbarrow gold plated? WTF.... it's going to be a long night.

[intocarss]

Don't forget the Redneck sausage holders

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/redneck_bbq_sausage_holder.jpg



That's a damn nice rig you're building Greg

[Track Junky]

Don't forget the Redneck sausage holders

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/redneck_bbq_sausage_holder.jpg



That's a damn nice rig you're building Greg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[FETorino]

Don't forget the Redneck sausage holders

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/redneck_bbq_sausage_holder.jpg



That's a damn nice rig you're building Greg

That's a Tosh.0 sausage holder not redneck, this is redneck.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll306/superjinca/redneck9.jpg

If you're posting here on Lateral Gooseneck get your redneck facts straight....... :rofl:

[Matt@BOS]

I don't care what color awning that rigg gonna git, my posse will be there and we ain't got no fem side either.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/524601_324450687619384_150665568331.jpg

If you bring your chair to a car show anywhere near Southern California, I might do something really unfair and steal it to make a recessed firewall on my car :_paranoid

Matt

[GregWeld]

Don't forget the Redneck sausage holders

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/redneck_bbq_sausage_holder.jpg



That's a damn nice rig you're building Greg



Those are way too far from the grilling surface to be cooked correctly...

Besides -- I like my tools!




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/IMG_0771.jpg

[intocarss]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/Convoy-1978-WS-Front-Cover-8115copycopy.jpg

[Vegas69]

Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any worse. First the ghost flames, then the yellow canopy, segway, and now this...... :faint:

[fleetus macmullitz]

You guys are killin' me....


I'll have nightmares tonight with the typical "okay that was just weird" kind of thoughts -- like why are Charley and I sitting in wheelbarrows... and who are those chicks that showed up in matching chiffon dresses... and why is my wheelbarrow gold plated? WTF.... it's going to be a long night.

Greg,

We just want to make sure you get everything you deserve. :thumbsup:

:lol:

If you bring your chair to a car show anywhere near Southern California, I might do something really unfair and steal it to make a recessed firewall on my car :_paranoid

Matt

Matt,

I understand the risks, even outside Bakertucky. Just make sure you wash it real good. :_paranoid

[GregWeld]

Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any worse. First the ghost flames, then the yellow canopy, segway, and now this...... :faint:



You forgot WIENERS!!


:cheers: :rofl: :woot:

[FETorino]

You forgot WIENERS!!


:cheers: :rofl: :woot:

Frank and beans


http://youtu.be/0NdNyi7v0-M

[Flash68]

No thread is safe.

[intocarss]

Those are way too far from the grilling surface to be cooked correctly...

Besides -- I like my tools!




http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Fun%20Fotos/IMG_0771.jpg That's bitchen

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Here's one of my friends rig, Not quite as nice as yours But it gets the job done

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/FreightlinerwithStackeratFontana.jpg

[96z28ss]

Don't forget the Redneck sausage holders

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/real3/redneck_bbq_sausage_holder.jpg



That's a damn nice rig you're building Greg

Umm there is something wrong with those sausage holders. Looks like 4 dudes.
I'll stick to the burgers.

[GregWeld]

Bob --- My thoughts on that wiener holder EXACTLY.... It's just "wrong". :lol:



Jerry --- Nice rig! Yes - similar.... That rig has an "assembled" awning which covers more area... Where the Girard awnings are pushbutton and out they go. I'm hoping they're adequate. I don't really care if the car sits in the sun a bit. As long as Gwen and Charley are happy... and they (the awnings) block the sun from fading out the TV.:D

I did eliminate the A/C and heat in the stacker.... which also meant I could kill the 12kw generator. I hope that wasn't a mistake. I just didn't see myself hanging around inside the trailer... and it can be plugged into the toter for power so I can run fans etc.

[Sieg]

After serious deliberations Track Junky & Sieg are leaning to this faster transporter color scheme.

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/KTM-Motorcycles/KTM-Demo-Ride-2011-Mtn-View/IMAG0227/909522472_Fz3c2-L.jpg

:unibrow: :unibrow:

[Track Junky]

After serious deliberations Track Junky & Sieg are leaning to this faster transporter color scheme.

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/KTM-Motorcycles/KTM-Demo-Ride-2011-Mtn-View/IMAG0227/909522472_Fz3c2-L.jpg

:unibrow: :unibrow:


ORANGE & BLACK ATTACK!! :cheers:

[camcojb]

After serious deliberations Track Junky & Sieg are leaning to this faster transporter color scheme.

http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/KTM-Motorcycles/KTM-Demo-Ride-2011-Mtn-View/IMAG0227/909522472_Fz3c2-L.jpg

:unibrow: :unibrow:

there is NO WAY Greg would drive his new setup in the mud like that. :willy: :wow: :lol:

[fleetus macmullitz]

I like the yellow against the gray...or black. :_paranoid

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/yellow_banded_poison_dart_frog.jpg

[Sieg]

there is NO WAY Greg would drive his new setup in the mud like that. :willy: :wow: :lol:

Skeeter wasn't too happy either :D
http://sieg.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/KTM-Motorcycles/KTM-Demo-Ride-2011-Mtn-View/IMGP6092/909407604_wRxPf-L-1.jpg

He's also responsible for washing and servicing all the demo bikes. :(

[GregWeld]

Friends don't let friends drive Volvos....

[Sieg]

Friends don't let friends drive Volvos....
Maybe so but he sure has made it possible for me to ride a lot of new Austrian bike prior to dealer delivery. :unibrow:

Ya'll fired up for tomorrow? :woot: :woot:

[GregWeld]

After today -- I know why I ordered this thing up -- windy and hot....

I want my toter home!!

[fleetus macmullitz]

Them big vans can attract a crowd... :_paranoid

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k156/wnyjazz/tumblr_m00j5zwlgP1rp428ao1_500.gif

[GregWeld]

My wonderful wife just had to trip to Northern California and back -- where every 5 miles I brought up "what we'd be doing if we were in the toter!"..... as in - "if we were in the toter we could pull over right here and have lunch" - or "if we were in the toter I could pull in here and use MY OWN BATHROOM".... it got to be a joke after 1000 miles...

When we left Thunderhill we took the scenic route out of Williams... on Hwy 20 over to 101 then south to St Helena (Napa valley)..... on the way home we back tracked -- and noticed a big sign -- "NO TRUCKS OVER 65 FEET".... DANG NAB IT! I love back roads and hate the interstate drone.... so was really bummed to see that sign!

Once on the road I found out why --- narrow and super twisty.... fantastic driving, but not in the toter!

[Blake Foster]

Honestly how much can the fine be for an extra 10 feet????
just fold the 20.00's and pass them out the window with your license. lol

[GregWeld]

Honestly how much can the fine be for an extra 10 feet????
just fold the 20.00's and pass them out the window with your license. lol

EH?!?! That'll get you 'rested down here!


I did have to go to Art Morrisons today to get the housing for Rudy's Pro Street er.... and decided I'd stop by Freightliner. They had a Cascadia out front - unlocked - so I jumped up in there. Dude! I felt like a freshman in high school. That thing is BIG! Kool! But BIG!

I found out they offer EIGHT THOUSAND OPTIONS when ordering a big truck! My order for the truck only - was 14 pages worth of "stuff". A lot of which is just choosing this or that... but I had no idea there would be 8,000 choices! Most of which I had no idea what any of it even was! There has to be 100 front axle choices... a gazillion more rear choices... all kinds of different air options etc. I'm going to have to hang out with some trucker dudes to figure out what I have!:lol:

[Vegas69]

Just be careful.

HowgjZiJOUI

[GregWeld]

TOE TAPPERS!!!!

:rofl:

[GregWeld]

So my wife has now "re-thought" how many of these "events" she'd like to travel to.... So I put the order in cancel mode. Having them hold my deposit.. because if this is the case I'm going to drop down to a "car guy type" living quarters and maybe just a two car hauler.

Thinking about how it's used has been a major dilemma for me anyway. I've been wrestling with this for 4 or 5 years now!

The part I like the best about car stuff -- is the people. I like running to shows etc with my other buddies. Sometimes there's 3 or 4 trailers heading out. With the GIANT rig - this would severely restrict where and I could travel and going from Willams to St Helena was a major test of what and where I could go. I want to be able to go freely... WITHOUT hassle. 75' of truck and trailer would ADD hassle not eliminate it.



SO HERE'S THE 63 DOLLAR QUESTION:

If you could -- would you


Go with a "sport truck" 4 door M2 style chassis and living quarter w/ 2 car stacker gooseneck trailer?


Or


Smaller toter home (17') with 2 car stacker gooseneck trailer?

[Sieg]

Which platform will give you adequate horsepower and space?

Which will deliver acceptable mobility?

What platform will be most desirable when it comes time to sell?

Would this get the job done?
http://renegaderv.com/sites/default/files/photo-gallery/explorer_st_w_trailer_0.jpg

or this?
http://renegaderv.com/sites/default/files/photo-gallery/sportdeck-exterior.jpg

Charlie would you buy either for 10 cents on the dollar?

[Track Junky]

I'd have to see pic's of the options before answering. But being as frugal minded as I am I would go with a trailor that has the living quarters incorporated and by a crew cab dually to tow with.

[Blake Foster]

have you considered a motorhome with a 24-26 foot 2 car stacker???
that way the length is not outragious and the living quarters are super nice, even if you a wifie want to go away with out the cars???
the qestion i struggle with in my descission making is what ti the MOST important hauling cars or comfort on the road??
do i buy a Ironworks setup to move all the cars and display stuff i can find pay a ton of extra fees costs regulations, and have to stay in hotels everynight. or get a big toter and smaller trailer (that can take the majority of what we need) and be comfortable on the road, pull into rest areas or Walmart and set up camp instead of trying to find a hotel at 11 pm that i can park the rig at???
for you i could see the motor home (big diesel pusher ) and a small 2 car stacker trailer being a great option.

[Blake Foster]

Which platform will give you adequate horsepower and space?

Which will deliver acceptable mobility?

What platform will be most desirable when it comes time to sell?

Would this get the job done?
http://renegaderv.com/sites/default/files/photo-gallery/explorer_st_w_trailer_0.jpg

or this?
http://renegaderv.com/sites/default/files/photo-gallery/sportdeck-exterior.jpg

Charlie would you buy either for 10 cents on the dollar?

Hell i would buy one for .10 on the dollar if i could find one!!!

[Blake Foster]

http://www.racingjunk.com/Toterhomes/2164449/2011-Renegade-Explorer.html?imageIndex=0&showSuperSize=true

with a small tag stacker

[96z28ss]

Would this get the job done?
http://renegaderv.com/sites/default/files/photo-gallery/explorer_st_w_trailer_0.jpg

Charlie would you buy either for 10 cents on the dollar?

If the wife isn't willing to go to a lot of events, then pick up a used one. Let someone else take the big hit. Use it for a couple years, that way you know exactly what you will want in the future. Then sell it or trade it in for the one you want.

[96z28ss]

I'd have to see pic's of the options before answering. But being as frugal minded as I am I would go with a trailor that has the living quarters incorporated and by a crew cab dually to tow with.

When the trailer gets to be too long they are a pain in the rear to manuver. The pivot point is just to far forward.

[Lenie]

Sh_tskies, 45 pages about trailers. Greg, here's all you need!

http://youtu.be/j_j7Bsl_Vi8

[GregWeld]

So glad to see everyone struggles with the exact same issues I do!

Too much trailer - or too much length - more trailer less living - more living less trailer.... Ya know what that leads too?? 75' of living quarters and stacker trailer!

One of the biggest things that bothers me with all of this (not the resale by the way - you guys are thinking with YOUR wallets)... is that I like to caravan to shows or "whatever" with others.... and they end up having to get a hotel and I would end up trying to find somewhere to put 75' of crappola for the night. When I started to look at just pulling into a rest stop --- they won't take 75' long! I'd be halfway out into the road!

I had a one car trailer - with living quarters all spec'd out -- and it ended up being 44' long with all manor of compromises.... and my F-350 would barely be capable of hauling it. It got heavy in a hurry with the living quarters - gen set - blah blah blah... and everyone tells me a long trailer is a PITA... thus I started to look at bigger "truck" etc.

The other thing is everyone tells me NOT to get a motorhome with tag trailer - they tow like crap and are underpowered. I don't want to be going over Mt Shasta with my foot to the floor and the thing wheezing...I want a real truck that is MADE FOR hauling stuff.

BTW - SIEG

I've been inside the one you posted... it's 45' long - is beautiful - but when you put even a 24' trailer behind it - guess where you are in length... with the tongue it's right back up to 75'!

So I was trying to get the smaller "toter" --- with the smaller gooseneck - but with a dedicated bedroom area -- and that's where the 24' living quarters comes in. Anything less than that and you're up in the overhead bunk or pulling out the sofa sleeper. No wife along - I'm fine with the overhead bunk... but when Gwen and I looked at them together - she wanted separate bedroom. Whereas I'd throw a mattress on the floor of the trailer and call it good! :rofl:

So I'm thinking 16' toter as shown (in white pictures posted) and a 2 car 32' stacker with just a little more space for tools and storage etc... and that puts me in the 60' long area

[Musclerodz]

Is there really a difference between 60 and 75 feet when it comes to rolling down the road? I would not think so, big is still big. One of the sport trucks may be better size wise, but not sure they would be any better than your ford with a stacker behind it. Does anyone build a Prevost (or similar sized motor home) with a built in stacker and no trailer? That should get you down to 50ish feet?

[Vegas69]

If I was you, I'd go to a place where people have some real experience vs. all the Monday morning quarterbacks around here.:D

[intocarss]

Todd is right.

I'd suggest going to a NHRA national event when they come to your town. Every kind of hauler, tow rig and different types of trailers are there. Just walk around and ask opinions. And as far as towing with a Motor home, unless you get a diesel pusher I think you're wasting your $

[Flash68]

If the wife isn't willing to go to a lot of events, then pick up a used one.

You know that sentence can be interpreted in 2 ways. :lol:

Greg - I am totally NOT surprised at this after spending a little time with Gwen at Thunderhill.... I gotta say I saw this comin. :unibrow:

But in the end you'll get what you want and it sure will be nice to have one that is a helluva lot easier to navigate as you mentioned.

[Roadster Shop]

Greg, I was reading through the last few pages and figured I'ld throw some advice at you. I really don't think that the overall length is an issue with drivability. It is the long wheel base on the truck that creates problems for turning and getting around once you are off the highway. We have a Renegade with the 17' box and a 48' stacker behind it. I think that we are just under 80' bumper to bumper. We have towed smaller trailers with the truck and I didn't see too much of a difference. You will have no problems on the highway, truck stops, rest areas, and just about any car show or track event. Around town is a pain in the arse until you get some good seat time and confidence of what you can get yourself out of. The long wheel base on the truck makes maneuvering difficult and you really have to plan out your route and know what you are doing. Backing into a tight parking spot is tough because the truck takes forever to swing around or get the trailer to change direction. It is a little bit of a pain, but it is definitely worth it in my opinion to go with the toter vs a Sport Chassis or pick up.

As far as the toter home goes, you are going to want the big truck with the big motor. We have a 450 HP cat with a 12 speed auto and going up any decent grade the thing bogs down to 30-40 mph even half loaded. Hitting some of the long pulls through the mountains you can be down to 20 mph for close to an hour. Not fun! Too much truck (power, brakes, towing capacity) is way better than not enough truck. I would definitely get the extra height (insert Greg Weld short joke of choice here) in the bunk of the truck as well. Ours is standard height and if you are laying on your side, you are pinned against the roof. I would do the larger slide out as well. I think ours is a 6' or 7' slide out. I have seen newer trucks with a much larger slide out that really opens the interior and doubles the space.

The toter home is extremely nice going down the road having the fridge, bathroom, couch, tv, microwave, etc... right there. The ride quality and the air ride seats are a huge difference. We also have a F450 dually and smaller gooseneck trailer. You honestly get beat up and worn out on long drives in that. The Renegade is comfortable, you don't get worn out on the long hauls and arrive fresh and ready to go.

On the trailer, I would go big or go home. Trailers and garages are always too small and you always wish you got the larger one after you run out of room way quicker than you thought. Skip the A/C on the trailer. We have turned ours on maybe 5 times in as many years. Definitely get the generator and compressor. E-trac tie down system is a must. An onboard fuel tank for the cars is a cool idea that I want to incorporate into our trailer. If you get a ramp door with an internal lift, make sure to go on the big side with the lift. We have a 4,000 lb lift that struggles to lift 3,500lb cars. I really like the ramp door and internal lift vs the liftgate back door. We have used the lift countless times to work on cars at events. You will lose some upper deck floor space since the lift will not go all the way to the back door like a full upper deck will.

There is my 2 cents. Give me a call or shoot me an email if you have any questions.

-Phil

[96z28ss]

You know that sentence can be interpreted in 2 ways. :lol:

Greg - I am totally NOT surprised at this after spending a little time with Gwen at Thunderhill.... I gotta say I saw this comin. :unibrow:

But in the end you'll get what you want and it sure will be nice to have one that is a helluva lot easier to navigate as you mentioned.

well, I didn't mean it the other way.
We all know he isn't going to find a sugar momma like Gwen anywhere else. If it wasn't for Gwen working and making all the money, Greg wouldn't be going to any of these events. Now that she is retired and went to an event, and met a few lat-g guys, she might be looking at getting a job again, or making herself busy when Greg asks her if she wants to come along.

[Sieg]

Phil - That input as exceptional as it is REALLY helps his decision process. :rofl:

[Sieg]

BTW - SIEG

I've been inside the one you posted... it's 45' long - is beautiful - but when you put even a 24' trailer behind it - guess where you are in length... with the tongue it's right back up to 75'!


I officially defer further comment to Phil. :unibrow:

[GregWeld]

Phil ---

Great help! And exactly what I've been thinking about. I want to park this in my back driveway alongside my shop. In order to do that - I have to pull past my street (I live on a corner) and back it around the corner then down the street and another 70* to start the trailer up in the driveway. These are neighborhood sized streets -- with grass to the edge of the street etc... and I watched a 28' box truck make this maneuver the other day -- it barely made it and he didn't have a trailer to deal with.

I DO NOT want to store this offsite. That really makes a hassle out of it -- prepping to get ready - with all the rain etc... so it's in my driveway or I'm not doing it.

And it's not the highway driving I'm thinking about - it's the before or after an event where I want to use the thing to putz around. I'd like to be able to pull into a "view vista" site and have lunch - take a pee - or just relax etc. So it has to be more for me to just goof around in than just "show to show".


Even more importantly is that if Gwen isn't going it doesn't have to be as fancy. So I asked the dealer for his inventory status of his smaller rigs - I'll still have to have the trailer built and will make that LONGER perhaps.

Good info on the A/C - that's EXACTLY what I thought -- no need!

:cheers:

[Blake Foster]

The backing into your driveway i've seen it. will be worth the price of admission the first few trys, call me i will bring a lawn chair and beer!!

Luckly the hard part of the manuver is on the driver side so you have way better visibility. I used to back our trailer off a standard 2 lane rural street with huge ditches on both sides, the truck was a 300" WB with a 45' semi trailer into a widened driveway, and then 300 feet long as long as you can get over the one front wheel being in the ditch it's all good. Your driveway is not 90 deg to the road and that makes it way easer. You will want to paint a line on the driveway on the driver side so you can "Drive" the trailer wheels on it and not have to worry about hitting the retaining wall with the rear pass side of the trailer because you will have NO idea where it is. you will not be able to see ANYTHING on that side of the truck due to the turn, so a nice white line to follow would make it a breeze. I would be more worried about getting past the Fn tree in the middle of the road!!. OH and you will have to add to the gardners monthy bill to fix the guys grass across the street lol.

[GregWeld]

^^^^^^^^^^^ Exactly right!



I was thinking about how smart I was "belling out" the driveway toward the west.... because that is the side you can actually see. I can do my truck and trailer without ever having to pull forward for a restart... but I've got my marks down and I just follow the trailer. But with the rig I ordered - I really don't think I'd get it in and out of the neighborhood. You're right about the tree at the entrance!

[Blake Foster]

call Reliable moving to come to your house and pick up the 33 and see how that goes. that may answer all your questions

[bulldogchevy]

Hey Greg
I just sold my rig it was a 38 ft 0ptima on a freightliner columbia chassis Merc 450 hp with a 26 ft stacker. It towed great with plenty of power.
I ran it for 4 years but i have to say it was a lot of work,prep ,cleaning,waxing.Once on the road it was great. It was challenging on backroads, bridges narrow roads and weight limits.I got stopped at the Ohio tolls several times for being over weight, they scale you at tolls.Made me turn around and seek alt route.
It just took the fun out of it as me and my girlfriend [co pilot]loved to pull off and see the back country but with the trailer it was difficult.
Hope this helps
I've down sized
I do miss bringing that second car
Scott

[GregWeld]

Scott -- You hit the nail square! I L O V E the back roads and H A T E the Interstates! And the thing that got me thinking about all of this "length" etc is the trip I took from Thunderhill track over to the Napa Valley.... Hwy 20 was exactly the kind of roads I love to travel on... a "stop and smell the roses" kind of life... and as you said - there were all kinds of "don't do this and don't do that and you can't go here" issues... and I "felt" big just dragging the trailer with my dually.

The washing and waxing thing -- I do with my cell phone.... as in "yo buddy -- come over and wash and wax my rig" so that's not an issue. And I want it in MY driveway so loading food - water - cars - etc is not a hassle. And in the end - I might reach the same conclusion you did... but I'm also not at all concerned about the total lack of resale. That just isn't an issue. The ISSUE is how I want to use it.... I'm trying to build in some freedom to roam... and bigger seems to take that out of the equation.

I also do not want to be hassled all the time with the issues you point out - over length - over weight - blah blah blah. So thanks for pointing that out.

:cheers:

[bulldogchevy]

Yes keeping on your property is key. I had the space at home made it great getting ready for the trip. I wasn't concerned about resale i bought it because it was what i wanted. No regrets.
It really freaked out my co pilot on some of my excersions as i drove it like my duelly:lol:
After my experience keep it simple

Good luck Greg:thumbsup:

[DBasher]

Greg, you're really messing up my long term plan!

Step 1, Introduce myself to Greg Weld
Step 2, Use words like "cute" and "eeeeeeehaaaaa"
Step 3, Become best friends with Greg Weld
Step 4, Have Greg Weld want to haul my car to events all over the place.
:thumbsup:

Really I would think that the smaller toter (living space) would be the ticket. Most the events you attend are fair weather and the only time spent in the rig would be to make some food or crash out. Shorter with a slide out sounds like the way to go.

Times a tickin, get this thing built. We've got Bonneville in September!

eeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa!

:cheers:
Dan

[GregWeld]

Dan...... very cute!


You left off #5 -- sponsoring your car / engine / truck


Bonneville is on the bucket list!


Smaller living quarters - is exactly where I'm headed! I had the dealer (Sport Truck RV - Chandler AZ) send me his inventory thinking that maybe he had something already built that would work -- sadly the inventory is.... all white --- Cheap ass OAK cabinets --- and small motors (450hp MBZ).... The 14' toter was quoted at $175K.... I'm not spending that on small white oak ugly!


EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA





As it turns out - the factory was having trouble with being overweight on the front axles of my designed rig.. so it most likely couldn't have been built the way I wanted it.


NBFFL

[GregWeld]

I was informed today that they can't build the 24' toter with the way I want it. Engineering can't seem to get the weight balanced and it's too much on the front axle.

So it's back to working with the dealer to find a happy medium. Unfortunately I'll be heading to Italy next week -- so it'll just have to wait. Oh well, I've been messing with this for 5 year now - another couple weeks ain't going to kill me.

[DBasher]

Step 5 isn't needed....yet. The Studebaker we run is fairly stock, running in the 130 club. If my math is correct, which it should be, we should get real close this year.
Bucketlist?? Just do it, it's pretty much the birth grounds of speed, the church of horsepower, the great white dyno.

I hear you on the oak, it reminds me of Kenny G and a bottle of merlot. The white isn't so bad, easy to change.

I looked at the website and tried to spend your money on something, it's tough. With all the info given on this thread I don't see anything they have that fits the bill. Cool stuff but, ehhh.
When you say 24' toter, how is that measured? The living quarters are 24' or the overall?

I hear Italy is nice this time of year, I'll be in Wenatchee, kinda the same.
:cheers:
Dan

[GregWeld]

24' is the living quarters floor space.... and that makes the "truck" 45'


I love Wenatchee! Great town and I had a great customer over there. I'll be at the Monaco Grand Prix. Is there a go kart race going on in Wenatchee? I may change my plans!:lol:


If I thought I was going to go to races every weekend with a bunch of guys and greasy hands etc - then I wouldn't care about the interior -- but I want to use it more like a motel on wheels with some toys with me... so then I get particular.

[sik68]

24' is the living quarters floor space.... and that makes the "truck" 45'


I love Wenatchee! Great town and I had a great customer over there. I'll be at the Monaco Grand Prix. Is there a go kart race going on in Wenatchee? I may change my plans!:lol:


If I thought I was going to go to races every weekend with a bunch of guys and greasy hands etc - then I wouldn't care about the interior -- but I want to use it more like a motel on wheels with some toys with me... so then I get particular.

Have you been to Monte Carlo before, GW? It is like a different world; every thing and every one is dripping & oozing money & high fashion...a different level from anything I can find in the 'States for sure. We spent the day there pretending, trying to absorb what it's like to live so ostentatiously. The cheapest apartment we found (1br, no view, 1st floor) was E6m and another E300k for a SmartCar parking spot; not for us, haha. Have you ever thought about grabbing a vacation pad there?

If you have time, I highly recommend walking the track if you haven't before. I believe it must be obligatory for exotic car owners to goose it through the tunnel because every 30seconds or so you hear another v8, v10, v12 shrieking through.

Don't forget to pack your best Velcro shoes :cheers:

[GregWeld]

Steven ---


I'll be the one there in cut off bluejeans - and a grease stained tshirt...
wearing my rolex Daytona of course!

Walking the track is great advice. I'm not sure we'll be able to do that but I'll try to. I think we'll arrive too close to when they're practicing etc so the course may already be in control mode.

Here's where we're staying - our room has a balcony on the Fairmont hairpin... and apparently you can see a good deal of the course from the roof which is set up to cater to "us" (people there for the Grand Prix).


Hotels

May 23 - 28 Monaco
Fairmont Monte Carlo
Phone - 011 377 93 50 65 00

May 28 - 31 Portofino, Italy
Hotel Splendido
Phone - 011 39 0185 267 801

May 31 - June 2 Siena, Italy
Hotel Castel Monastero
Phone - 011 39 0577 570001

June 2 - 5 Florence, Italy
Four Seasons Hotel
Phone - 011 33 055 2626 250

[Blake Foster]

Thanks for the contact numbers, just in case we ndde to get ahold of you.
lol
that should be a nice trip.

you should blend right in wiht the cut off's :thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Thanks for the contact numbers, just in case we ndde to get ahold of you.
lol
that should be a nice trip.

you should blend right in wiht the cut off's :thumbsup:



Whattttttt........ <scratching noises in the background> Huh??..... we must have a bad connection....

[GregWeld]

To get this thread back on track ---- <pun intended> ---- I'm thinking (and I'd like to hear opinions) on maybe backtracking halfway... and going with the Sport Truck RV M2 chassis with a 450 MBZ diesel and a TWO car stacker with smaller living quarters up front. Maybe 14' of living quarter (on the flat floor) bedroom sleeping area in the overhead. I think I could do this in a 44' trailer... and the tractor part would be much smaller overall.

Will work on this more when we get back.

[Sieg]

Have your ran the hp to wt ratio's for each package?

The Sport Truck is small enough that it would add to the flexibility of the package and you can drop the trailer and go out on the town with the truck.

[GregWeld]

Thus the TWO car stacker over the three....

[fleetus macmullitz]

If the lighter/smaller philosophy is good enough for Stielow...:unibrow:

[GregWeld]

So this is what I'm thinking -- two car stacker - M2 truck - with some living quarters in the stacker.

Although not this ugly....



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/Image.jpg

[Sieg]

I like it. :thumbsup:

You'll be able to limb some trees with that trailer.

[ironworks]

So this is what I'm thinking -- two car stacker - M2 truck - with some living quarters in the stacker.

Although not this ugly....



http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/Toterhome/Image.jpg

The problem with a truck like that is that because it's not an RV you will have to get a license to drive that rig, Legally. Even with my F-450 I was required to have a license legally. But those M2 class trucks have never really impressed me, they lack power and seem to be horrible rattle traps. I kinda thought with all the drama you "could" have to entail you might as well go to a real truck. That's how I ended up where I'm at.

[GregWeld]

The problem with a truck like that is that because it's not an RV you will have to get a license to drive that rig, Legally. Even with my F-450 I was required to have a license legally. But those M2 class trucks have never really impressed me, they lack power and seem to be horrible rattle traps. I kinda thought with all the drama you "could" have to entail you might as well go to a real truck. That's how I ended up where I'm at.



Not sure what they do about that -- as far as a CDL -- because you're right - the Truck GVWR might make it just enough that a CDL is required. I'll have to ask DMV about it. The trailer would have living space but it's not motorized.

So maybe back to the Toter - with a gooseneck two car stacker.

[onebad68]

The problem with a truck like that is that because it's not an RV you will have to get a license to drive that rig, Legally. Even with my F-450 I was required to have a license legally. But those M2 class trucks have never really impressed me, they lack power and seem to be horrible rattle traps. I kinda thought with all the drama you "could" have to entail you might as well go to a real truck. That's how I ended up where I'm at.

I don't know about that, if it is not commercial, you shouldn't have to have anything special to drive it. In theory, he could flat out buy a semi, and drive it with nothing special, as long as it is personal. This is a big discussion on other boards with people that move personal loads that have some weight to them.:)

[camcojb]

I don't know about that, if it is not commercial, you shouldn't have to have anything special to drive it. In theory, he could flat out buy a semi, and drive it with nothing special, as long as it is personal. This is a big discussion on other boards with people that move personal loads that have some weight to them.:)

not in my state he couldn't. Needs a commercial license for three axles over 6000 pounds.

[ironworks]

I don't know about that, if it is not commercial, you shouldn't have to have anything special to drive it. In theory, he could flat out buy a semi, and drive it with nothing special, as long as it is personal. This is a big discussion on other boards with people that move personal loads that have some weight to them.:)

In correct a semi truck is considered a comercial vehicle because it is over 24,000 lbs.

[GregWeld]

In correct a semi truck is considered a comercial vehicle because it is over 24,000 lbs.



Here's the Washington law....

All single vehicles with a manufacturer’s weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more.

All trailers with a manufacturer’s weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more, and a combined vehicles’ gross weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more.

[intocarss]

not in my state he couldn't. Needs a commercial license for three axles over 6000 pounds. You are correct

[GregWeld]

You guys will be sick of this thread -- but I FINALLY ordered the trailer that I need and was my original "idea" back about 2 years ago... with a few mods -- mostly -- it's going to be built all "racer boy" in the interior -- as in aluminum skinned cabinets (in red) - like a high end tool box - with stainless steel counter tops -- like you'd have in a nice shop.... and coin floor done black and white checkered... even the dinning table is going to be stainless steel top.

28' box - 14' living quarters - so 50' overall including the 8' "overhead"
going with ATC trailer - all aluminum
triple axles - spread
diesel gen
heat & A/C
Extra height
all white .050 skin --- Will do something like a wrap for flames etc
Girard awning
slide out where sofa is

single car

Waiting for them to give me weight so I can order a new truck.

Deposit wired today - to Poulsen Trailers in Logan Utah. Dave Poulsen has worked with me for about 2 years and stuck by me thru all the iterations -- and even when I told him about the giant rig he was enthusiastic and gracious.

This last trip with the roadster -- going with two other rigs -- made me realize that too big is stupid -- it's the most fun with OTHER PEOPLE - and Other people don't have giant azz rigs... and when we're all together at some track event -- we can just use the crap out of it and nothing will get scratched or dirty etc... it's just going to be a nice big toolbox with a refer and a toilet and I can make coffee and get out of the heat or rain.

:woot:

[ironworks]

You guys will be sick of this thread -- but I FINALLY ordered the trailer that I need and was my original "idea" back about 2 years ago... with a few mods -- mostly -- it's going to be built all "racer boy" in the interior -- as in aluminum skinned cabinets (in red) - like a high end tool box - with stainless steel counter tops -- like you'd have in a nice shop.... and coin floor done black and white checkered... even the dinning table is going to be stainless steel top.

28' box - 14' living quarters - so 50' overall including the 8' "overhead"
going with ATC trailer - all aluminum
triple axles - spread
diesel gen
heat & A/C
Extra height
all white .050 skin --- Will do something like a wrap for flames etc
Girard awning
slide out where sofa is

single car

Waiting for them to give me weight so I can order a new truck.

Deposit wired today - to Poulsen Trailers in Logan Utah. Dave Poulsen has worked with me for about 2 years and stuck by me thru all the iterations -- and even when I told him about the giant rig he was enthusiastic and gracious.

This last trip with the roadster -- going with two other rigs -- made me realize that too big is stupid -- it's the most fun with OTHER PEOPLE - and Other people don't have giant azz rigs... and when we're all together at some track event -- we can just use the crap out of it and nothing will get scratched or dirty etc... it's just going to be a nice big toolbox with a refer and a toilet and I can make coffee and get out of the heat or rain.

:woot:

Hopefully a regular 3500 dually will pull that, legally. Then you will keep your GVW down and keep you below the DOT radar.

[sik68]

Cool, Greg! Thanks for the update, I had been wondering about this!

If you can do a 3500, would you? Everyone says the chevy/gmc tows the best but the Fords and Dodges can be appointed far nicer inside.

[Ketzer]

I know you had high hopes of seeing the country in the toter but what you've been doing lately seems a far better choice. Drive to a destination, get out a cool hotrod, cruise and sightsee in that, load and go to the next destination. Seeing some beautiful back country in a 32 or a Nomad sounds like a rodders dream.



Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Cool, Greg! Thanks for the update, I had been wondering about this!

If you can do a 3500, would you? Everyone says the chevy/gmc tows the best but the Fords and Dodges can be appointed far nicer inside.


I would LOVE to try to stick to an F-350 Dually -- which is what I have now. Mine is a King Ranch which I'd never bother to do again... but that's just the leather BS interior. Regular Lariat would be fine!

I just can't pull the trigger until I know the weights.

Owned a Dodge -- won't do that again -- they have THE WORST back seats EVER in the entire universe. And you can't go with the MegaCab thing with a gooseneck.... Ya gotta have the 8' box.

[GregWeld]

I know you had high hopes of seeing the country in the toter but what you've been doing lately seems a far better choice. Drive to a destination, get out a cool hotrod, cruise and sightsee in that, load and go to the next destination. Seeing some beautiful back country in a 32 or a Nomad sounds like a rodders dream.



Jeff-


Jeff -- you summed it up perfectly. It just isn't that big of a deal to unload - cruise - load 'er up and move on. Get a room - or not - which is what I'd like to have the OPTION of doing... no rooms available - no biggie - we'll just 'camp out'.

The very few times a guy would NEED a race car - the hot rod - and a regular car with him - are far and few between... and even farther if Gwen isn't going to move in it and go for 6 weeks at a time.... No problem - I'm okay with that.... Like I told her many times on the Monaco trip -- I'm perfectly fine with mezzikan food with the boys in Willows... and, in fact, prefer it. :woot:

This trailer is big enough for some space - and not so big that you're screwed all the time. I can still travel with my friends...

Track weekend -- and we're all dirty hot and sweaty.... no biggie - have a seat - grab a beer (or a Tonic in my case, hold the gin)... I got a couple TV's for Charley...

[clill]

Ha !! Too bad it won't be ready for Sears Point in 2 weeks.

[nvr2fst]

Greg,

You should be very pleaed with ATC. I own two myself, best and lightest trailers Ive ever had. Although not cheap but well worth it for the quality this company puts out. I trashed a fender two years back and the company drove across state lines to replace it in my driveway, saved me a 2 1/2 hr trip to them. I pull the 26ft with a 3/4 ton single axle truck with no problems.

[GregWeld]

Ha !! Too bad it won't be ready for Sears Point in 2 weeks.

I know!!

I just couldn't make up my pea brain... but FINALLY pulled the trigger.

[GregWeld]

Greg,

You should be very pleaed with ATC. I own two myself, best and lightest trailers Ive ever had. Although not cheap but well worth it for the quality this company puts out. I trashed a fender two years back and the company drove across state lines to replace it in my driveway, saved me a 2 1/2 hr trip to them. I pull the 26ft with a 3/4 ton single axle truck with no problems.



I turned a buddy on to Poulsen when he wanted a TAG trailer... and he was super pleased with Dave and his new trailer is beautiful!

The guy that built my Mustang has an ATC trailer and I was really really impressed at the quality. What I can't get past is the typical oak cabinets and stuff that they use... Thus the decision to go with a Moduline type cabinet in the living space... Frankly it'll make it totally usable -- hassle free - and actually kinda fun and a little different.

With SS counter tops etc I can even let Charley inside.

[nvr2fst]

I didnt know oak cabinets were an option from ATC, maybe they changed there options over the last couple of years. My interior cabs are aluminum. (not moduline but nice) which were part of the package.

One thing Greg- check out what screws they are using lately to mount the marker lights, plate holder, etc. Mine have surface rusted. They did not use ss fasteners in those areas on my model year.

[GregWeld]

I didnt know oak cabinets were an option from ATC, maybe they changed there options over the last couple of years. My interior cabs are aluminum. (not moduline but nice) which were part of the package.

One thing Greg- check out what screws they are using lately to mount the marker lights, plate holder, etc. Mine have surface rusted. They did not use ss fasteners in those areas on my model year.



Dave ---

Of course we're talking two different kinds of trailers.... the oak cabinets are the base cabinets used in the LIVING QUARTERS area...not the garage area of these trailers.

I can upgrade to Maple natural, cherry stain, or black...but just thought it would be more fun to do the toolbox look.

They use C-TECH cabinets -- and I've spec'd those out throughout the trailer.

[mdprovee]

Glad to see you were able to pick up something that meets your needs. Look forward to a cool one inside it one day.

[Stuart Adams]

I'm working on ordering a new trailer. This time around I'm going to finally actually order a trailer that will make use of my F-350 Dually.

I'd really like to get this RIGHT - the first time... so I'm looking for your help on pluses and minuses -- things you'd never do - and things you wish (unlimited check book items) that you had.

Trailer is ATC 40' - with 14' living qtrs... triple axles (spread axles) - all black - .050 rivetless skin... gooseneck.

I'm looking for ANY ideas - brakes - landing gear dos and don't - interior ideas - bigger liv qtrs - smaller? Built ins?
if you hate having a bigger trailer because it became a PITA - or do you wish you'd have gone a bit bigger?



Totally open discussion.

I figured you would hire guido to trailer your cars to the event and you helicopter in on race day.

[GregWeld]

I figured you would hire guido to trailer your cars to the event and you helicopter in on race day.



You have me confused with Charley Lillard....

[Stuart Adams]

We all live thru you and Charley so either one works. You guys set a high bar. :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

It's about f'n time.:unibrow:

[GregWeld]

It's about f'n time.:unibrow:

Sometimes an old addled brain takes awhile to get to the right way of thinking...


I've ordered the trailer -- From Poulsen in Logan Utah...

50' ATC Gooseneck - 14' of living qtrs - 28' garage space - C-tech cabinets - diesel generator - heat and A/C - triple spread axles - on air ride - with air over disc brakes.

I ordered the truck from SportTruckRV - in Chandler Az

Got a Freightliner M2 - 112 (bit longer) with a 470 hp DD13 with 1650 Ft lbs of torque. Allison 4000 TRV tranny - air ride front and rear axles - glad hands for the air in the trailer and the trailer brakes... on spot chain deployment system and the coupe de gras... 4 air seats. Took the bench out of the back and put in two more air seats and a console from front to back with separate A/C for the rear.

Ordered everything in WHITE... bag the fancy colors...

[coolwelder62]

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