View Full Version : Rendering help please?!
2ndgenhunter
04-01-2010, 12:52 AM
I'm fixing to start a new project. Its a late 2nd gen Z28.
I would like a rendering done. It doesn't have to be a museum piece just a rough
idea of what it will look like.
What does the cost of something like this run?
Who's the most budget friendly? I don't mind paying, But I can't swing 750-1000
dollars for a picture.
I'll post pics of my new project soon as I can, So the artist that read this will have an idea what they are dealing with.
Thanks in advance!
mlomaka
04-01-2010, 04:41 AM
There are plenty of good ones here. When considering an artist, be sure to look at more than just the cost. Here are some really helpful hints here;
http://www.motorburg.com/?p=988
I am sure you will get lots of offers. You can see some of my latest stuff here;
http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/mlomaka/vehicles/3761
Mike
Hdesign
04-01-2010, 07:08 AM
Sounds like a cool project, second gens are exploding right now! Here's a little insight for you and anyone else that's interested in having renderings done.
Mike posted a great article Brian Stupski wrote that is extremely helpful for builders and owners that have made the decision to get some professional help in the styling/design department. I think I've highlighted the main points of that article 15 times in various threads discussing this issue. Now I can just point to that article and give my fingers a rest...LOL.
I guess the two points I want to emphasize is that:
1. There is a distinct difference between an "Artist" (someone who can accurately copy the likeness of a car) and a "Designer". Designers are trained professionals that have extensive education and experience in form, scale/proportion, trends, colors, problem solving, manufacturing, materials and idea generation. You're not just paying for a "pretty picture" here. We can help you selecting colors and wheels, creating new graphics and maintaining a common theme throughout the vehicle. It's also a consultant service.
2. You literally get what you pay for. Professional designers often do this as a full-time gig and to support our families. We're involved in many builds at a time, several can be high dollar/high profile, award winning projects. Good work isn't free and great work isn't cheap, but it is fair. Consider what you'll save over the cost of build redos, bad looking body mods, the wrong wheels, the wrong paint scheme, an uninspired interior, not to mention headaches and frustration. This is often when projects start falling into the abyss and builders/owners lose interest.
There are some talented artist/designers that are getting into the field that are looking to build a name for themselves and will do work for discounted rates or even for free.
Also, another alternative is to have a photoshop chop done to a high resolution, good quality image of yours or a similar car. They're quick and dirty so the cost is often much cheaper than a full-blown rendering. However, don't expect Michelangelo work for $200-250.
So, to directly answer your specific need.... There maybe some one that can jump on this and get a presentable rendering to you or you could go with a photoshop chop.
Hub Garage has a ton of artists/designers there. Pick a style you like, make some calls/emails and go with the person that can work to your budget and give you what you need. This should be a positive experience! Good luck!
tones2SS
04-01-2010, 07:58 AM
Ben, the guy above this post, does great work and is fair with his prices.
Great guy and down to earth too!!:thumbsup:
2ndgenhunter
04-01-2010, 09:12 AM
Ben,
I don't mean no disrespect with my above post. I know the difference between designing a car and doing a rendering. This car is a daily driver/rented mule. I have this car designed in my head already. I just want to see it on paper. The car will remain stock looking with the exception of the color, wheels and stance. The total budget on this car is 10-12k including the car, So a 1000.00 dollar rendering will cut into that budget pretty good.
When I do my 73 Z28 I will have a Designer do that car. I want it to be 50-75k car. I won't mind spending 1500-2000 on the design for that car.
Hdesign
04-01-2010, 10:41 AM
None taken at all. I was more or less making a general post to anyone looking at having a rendering done, not specifically you. Maybe I should have cleared that up to start my post.
I knew exactly what you were looking for but I've noticed that as soon as these rendering threads get started, similar questions get asked. It's an opportunity for me to try and clear things up for people who are just starting the process.
city_ofthe_south
04-01-2010, 01:34 PM
Read the link that Mike posted, written by one of my personal inspirations .... and then read it again .... and then visit my website. hehehe! Just a little bit more perspective; I am a relative new guy (although I have no idea when I'm going to stop calling myself that because the guys I look up to will always have 20 or 30 or 40 years more experience than me and I will always be inspired by their work). And there are lots of new guys and everybody is looking to start somewhere. All of the other guys and gals I've come into this business with are car people who can produce results, who turn wrenches, and know cars. As an example and to stick with the link, Brian knows his stuff, better than I EVER will and that is what you get when you hire him. He's an amazing artist, knows his business, knows his subject and has been there and done that. That's the whole package. I guess the only reason I'm being redundant is so that you hear these words from a designer who has an education in design and considers himself a new guy. I'd count only about the last 5 years of my work true experience in this hobby. I think this is why Brian started his article with; Pick a Style you LIKE! and a designer you get along with. Talk to us and get the product YOU are looking for ... money will come second.
DocJr
04-01-2010, 02:47 PM
This is what my quick stuff looks like. I rough out a line drawing for 10 bucks. I use this line drawing to produce color sketches. Each color sketch is 20$. What you see here is 50 Dollars. Renderings are a lot higher (400$) due to time. These can take 20-40 minutes, Renderings take 10-20 Hours lol
PM Me if you're interested.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc180/69OldsNut/SidesLow.jpg
Great post Ben...I'll chime in here and say its all about preference and style of rendering you prefer.
Check out all the artists available make calls and emails get as much info as possible and make a decision from there.
Pricing again ranges from $50 to $2500 depending on amount of views etc...
2ndgenhunter
04-03-2010, 08:05 PM
Thanks you all for answering. Alot of great info and artist.
I've narrowed it down between 2 cars. Soon as I pull the trigger, I'll be caling yall.
The two cars in question are a 79 Z28 and a 81 Z28. I know they're not that different, But they real are. The 80-81 side vent change the whole look of the side of the car. Their cowl induction hood also changes the front view alot compared to the 78-79 tear drop. Just lil things I know but its the lil things that make you stand out.
Thanks Jamie
Cool!
This is what my quick stuff looks like. I rough out a line drawing for 10 bucks. I use this line drawing to produce color sketches. Each color sketch is 20$. What you see here is 50 Dollars. Renderings are a lot higher (400$) due to time. These can take 20-40 minutes, Renderings take 10-20 Hours lol
PM Me if you're interested.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc180/69OldsNut/SidesLow.jpg
2ndgenhunter
04-05-2010, 11:30 PM
Well I pulled the trigger. Here is the car.
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab81/67300Dlx/79%20Z28%20Camaro/camaro003.jpg
Its a 79 Z28 38k miles.
Guys I'll be in contact next week.
city_ofthe_south
04-12-2010, 12:09 PM
Congrats on the purchse ... 38K? nice.
BernalAutoStyle
06-23-2010, 11:35 AM
I'll do it for $160. I don't mind charging good money from a company but for individuals I charge reasonably for the chance to take on the challenge.
sweatnblood
06-27-2010, 05:16 PM
I will say I went with Nelson...I think he's DocJr on here...I have a 2nd Gen and just wanted a basic Idea of what it might look like...he's quick and very easy to work with and the price is very very good...not as all saying anybody else is bad...just letting you know how it went for me with this guy...I do love the z28's...
DocJr
07-01-2010, 03:42 AM
Thanks sweatnblood, by your PM the other day, you're not done yet haha.
I used to be quick. My current customers are having to wait a little longer than planned, I've been tremendously busy lately dealing with life altering situations (trying to establish a full time job that also requires relocating) So I've had a lot on my plate. I'm still accepting jobs, but they may take a few weeks as opposed to the "overnight" routine. Once I get back on track, I'll try to hold true to the kind words that sweatnblood said....(prices are still low though:thumbsup: )
hotrodwagon
07-09-2010, 01:53 PM
Check out Rushforth Design. Jason Rushforth does a nice job and is also very helpful in build idea and contacts.
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